After 2.5 years at 220 pounds, I can get up in a little less than 10 knots on a small board with a 7m wing and a 2100 sq cm foil. But I learned how to do that after many low wind sessions. It just takes a lot of time on water, muscle memory, perfect timing, and a sixth sense.
Compliments. Your discussions are the most realistic and useful for beginners!I'm learning with a 10 foot inflatable sup without foil. But the waves bother me a lot. Should I only go out with flat water? And with how much wind at minimum and maximum with sup and wing? Thank you.
That sounds ambitious, my friend. 🤙🏽 I can’t comment on the DIY “foil assist”, but I highly recommend learning to wing with a SUP, as it will provide a stable platform to learn on. You’ll be able to have some fun in those lighter conditions with your SUP, but you’ll definitely appreciate at least 14 knots when learning to ride your hydrofoil and wing board. Good winds to you! -Aaron
great video - im a beginner 80kg and have a 140liter board ( gong lance 5ft 9 ) and its not lifting for me in 15 knots. A mates 120liter fanatic 6 ft board seems to be lifting ( exact same 2000cm foil and 5m wing) Is this this just a case of more wind required for this board at my level
For a new rider, the 2400 low aspect will be easier since it requires less technique but more experienced riders will appreciate the better top end range, glide, apparent wind that the smaller, higher aspect option offers. 1700 is still quite large and easy to get on foil for most riders. -Tucker
very useful videos, keep them coming. I am a 200lbs beginner with local conditions with avg wind range of 12mph 17mph. If I can only buy two wings, what would you recommend? * 5.0 and 7.0 * 6.0 and 8.0 or some other combination? A 5.0 seems like it might be on the smallish end and a 8.0 looks massive. All the guides are written for lighter riders.
@@johanbergkvist8834 That would depend heavily on the board I'm using. On a DW board, it's rare for me to use anything larger than 1200. On a normal board, as large as 1400. -Tucker
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Average. We are assuming fairly clean winds where 12-16kn range would be "14 kn". Obviously not everyone has those conditions, in a gusty condition you may be able to get up in less than 14kn since you'll have higher peak power to get you on foil. -Tucker
I have been trying to learn to wing foil in light conditions for almost year. I have only been on foil 2 times for about 10 feet each time. I'm heavy though, 230lbs, using an 8m wing, biggest foil from Axis and large volume board, still can't get on foil consistently. Honestly if you live in an area where conditions are regularly less than 15kts you might be better off saving up for an e-foil. I'm starting to wish I had. At least with e-foil you are guaranteed to be foiling and can fit the sport to your schedule, not having to rely on mother nature's schedule to align with yours.
Yes, learning in light winds is super challenging. You are learning more than you think but it's hard to tell until you get some decent wind. Once you are confident starting on that board, you might check out a more efficient board so you can build more apparent wind and board speed for liftoff. A DW board is typically the best choice for those sub-par conditions but also more difficult to learn on. -Tucker
I do not agree at all. The industry wants beginner to by big boards, small wings and big foils. The progression for normal sporty people is so fast, that they continously by new stuff. So do not by such big foils and boards. You might need some more sessions but you don not have to change the equipment after for example 1 week of holiday winging all the days. The same for the wing. Take a wing of a goog size. A wing can be depowered (hold in a neutral position) quite well. It is not like windsurfing. Now the wind. For abolute beginner (who on top do not understand of winds) hold the wing at the handle at the leading edge up high. If the wing flys alone (the back does not fall down), GO ON THE WATER.
Appreciate your thoughts Andreas. To be clear, we are continuously trying to help people make smarter purchases which take them further into their progression and have value beyond that progression. The rider ability and attitude towards lighter winds are important when considering first gear purchases. -Tucker
After 2.5 years at 220 pounds, I can get up in a little less than 10 knots on a small board with a 7m wing and a 2100 sq cm foil. But I learned how to do that after many low wind sessions. It just takes a lot of time on water, muscle memory, perfect timing, and a sixth sense.
For sure, experience is key in light winds. Technique is huge. -Tucker
Bought my first Wing from Tucker in 2019 (thank you Tucker) and he continues to give me great advice on a regular basis.
Compliments. Your discussions are the most realistic and useful for beginners!I'm learning with a 10 foot inflatable sup without foil. But the waves bother me a lot. Should I only go out with flat water? And with how much wind at minimum and maximum with sup and wing? Thank you.
yes ,flat water is helpful. I'd say 10-20kn is ideal for riding without a foil. -Tucker
Excellent. Thanks for that honesty, and breaking it all down. Need more videos like this.
I plan to build dyi foil assist - learn on it to foil. Learn wing with sup. Then connect the two in our 11-16knots sea thermals...
What do you think?
That sounds ambitious, my friend. 🤙🏽 I can’t comment on the DIY “foil assist”, but I highly recommend learning to wing with a SUP, as it will provide a stable platform to learn on. You’ll be able to have some fun in those lighter conditions with your SUP, but you’ll definitely appreciate at least 14 knots when learning to ride your hydrofoil and wing board. Good winds to you! -Aaron
great video - im a beginner 80kg and have a 140liter board ( gong lance 5ft 9 ) and its not lifting for me in 15 knots. A mates 120liter fanatic 6 ft board seems to be lifting ( exact same 2000cm foil and 5m wing) Is this this just a case of more wind required for this board at my level
Most likely just need a bit more wind. I haven't ridden the Gong but the Fanatic is very efficient. - Tucker
Wich foil of the north sonar line you recomend for ultra low wind conditions? MA, HA o SF? And which size?
you two are good at doing these videos! My complements
Thanks! We've had lots of practice.
What is best for light wind - a 2400 cm square beginers front wing, or a 1700 cm square medium aspect?
What is best? More lift? Or less drag?
For a new rider, the 2400 low aspect will be easier since it requires less technique but more experienced riders will appreciate the better top end range, glide, apparent wind that the smaller, higher aspect option offers. 1700 is still quite large and easy to get on foil for most riders. -Tucker
Thanks Tucker!
👍🙏
very useful videos, keep them coming.
I am a 200lbs beginner with local conditions with avg wind range of 12mph 17mph. If I can only buy two wings, what would you recommend?
* 5.0 and 7.0
* 6.0 and 8.0
or some other combination? A 5.0 seems like it might be on the smallish end and a 8.0 looks massive.
All the guides are written for lighter riders.
if you are asking this question, then go for 6 and 8 m2
A good 7-8m with a 5-6m for better winds would be my suggestion. -Tucker
How big is your front foil?
@@johanbergkvist8834 1280 F one phantom.
@@johanbergkvist8834 That would depend heavily on the board I'm using. On a DW board, it's rare for me to use anything larger than 1200. On a normal board, as large as 1400. -Tucker
4.5 m wing is it more easy to handle than a 5.5m? how many bofor a 4.5 wing needs to function? begginer
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when you say 14 knots is it the average wind speed or maximum gust speed?
Average. We are assuming fairly clean winds where 12-16kn range would be "14 kn". Obviously not everyone has those conditions, in a gusty condition you may be able to get up in less than 14kn since you'll have higher peak power to get you on foil. -Tucker
I have been trying to learn to wing foil in light conditions for almost year. I have only been on foil 2 times for about 10 feet each time. I'm heavy though, 230lbs, using an 8m wing, biggest foil from Axis and large volume board, still can't get on foil consistently. Honestly if you live in an area where conditions are regularly less than 15kts you might be better off saving up for an e-foil. I'm starting to wish I had. At least with e-foil you are guaranteed to be foiling and can fit the sport to your schedule, not having to rely on mother nature's schedule to align with yours.
Yes, learning in light winds is super challenging. You are learning more than you think but it's hard to tell until you get some decent wind. Once you are confident starting on that board, you might check out a more efficient board so you can build more apparent wind and board speed for liftoff. A DW board is typically the best choice for those sub-par conditions but also more difficult to learn on. -Tucker
Yup , just put my new 5.0 up for sale.
Thank you for sharing the stoke, my friend. 🤙🏽 Good winds! -Aaron
I do not agree at all. The industry wants beginner to by big boards, small wings and big foils. The progression for normal sporty people is so fast, that they continously by new stuff. So do not by such big foils and boards. You might need some more sessions but you don not have to change the equipment after for example 1 week of holiday winging all the days. The same for the wing. Take a wing of a goog size. A wing can be depowered (hold in a neutral position) quite well. It is not like windsurfing.
Now the wind. For abolute beginner (who on top do not understand of winds) hold the wing at the handle at the leading edge up high. If the wing flys alone (the back does not fall down), GO ON THE WATER.
Appreciate your thoughts Andreas. To be clear, we are continuously trying to help people make smarter purchases which take them further into their progression and have value beyond that progression. The rider ability and attitude towards lighter winds are important when considering first gear purchases.
-Tucker