At our club we still have gliders originally built in the 1930, still flying, including primary gliders, a plank below and a wing above and on a winch launch 800ft of cable between you and the ground, it gets your attention. A seat belt, but no parachute (too much weight, no room and no time to deploy).
For some reason, (over speed or maybe mechanical), the glider that crashed was pitching up violently. You could see the pilot trying to counter by repeatedly giving full down elevator, which caused the aircraft to dive and accelerate, which would cause another violent pitch up when he backed off the elevator. When the aircraft rolled hard left, the pilot stayed off the down elevator too long while trying to roll level, and whatever was causing the violent pitch upwards ended up looping the airplane. Hard to watch.
We wear parachutes not because of mechanical issues but because we fly so close together in thermals. If the guy takes out your tail this is the best way to survive....
Wow incredible! The guy died because he appeared to be using too much up and down elevator, at too high an air speed. However, I must admit he had guts! Thanks for posting.
Well, these old Types often had Wire/Cable Controlled Surfaces. If the Controls aren't sufficiently tight the Control Surfaces have a lot of Play, which means the Pilot has to Overcontrol the Plane, he basically has to Chase his Plane's Movements which results in Oscillation both Aerodynamically and Pilot Induced, especially on Ailerons and Elevators. That's why by the Mid 30s almost all new Types had Rod-Controlled Elevators at least, and by the 50s Ailerons also became commonly Rod Controlled.
I am glad i am learning to fly now rather than then, although the schulgleiter at 6:00 does look like fun! most of the others just look downright scary!
Considering they had no modern 'high-tech' materials to build with, flights of two hours were remarkable and showed how well designed they were. Also, unlike todays pilots, they didn't have parachutes either....(incidentally, if gliding is so safe, how come so many wear a parachute?)
They had plenty of high tech materials to build with. And parachutes had already been a thing for decades when these were made. The first parachute jump was out of a hot air balloon. The first parachute jump out of an airplane was in the 1910's. These videos were made in the 1920s, post world war 1, where gliding was mostly done for sport and to further aeronautical development
I guess when they say 'the end' they really mean it lol. Ouch. Never too late for NTSB to investigate? Pilot error? Human factors, pilot was under a lot of pressure to perform bc of audience and cameras? Cockpit resource management? Thx for upload, great stuff.
In the 1930s, if the pupil's first flight was solo, and if he had never been up with an instructor, then how could they be sure he wouldn't stall or spin? I know the very low wing loading must be part of the answer, but even so..?
There was a curriculum starting with slides, short hops, longer straight glides, S-turns with increasing bank, and so on, thus at least mitigating the risks. Of course most of these rules, and even today‘s rule books were written with blood.
At our club we still have gliders originally built in the 1930, still flying, including primary gliders, a plank below and a wing above and on a winch launch 800ft of cable between you and the ground, it gets your attention. A seat belt, but no parachute (too much weight, no room and no time to deploy).
Thanks for those old glider's movies. A rare treasure not doubt.
For some reason, (over speed or maybe mechanical), the glider that crashed was pitching up violently. You could see the pilot trying to counter by repeatedly giving full down elevator, which caused the aircraft to dive and accelerate, which would cause another violent pitch up when he backed off the elevator.
When the aircraft rolled hard left, the pilot stayed off the down elevator too long while trying to roll level, and whatever was causing the violent pitch upwards ended up looping the airplane.
Hard to watch.
Facinating newsreel. I like that line "reminiscent of the earliest aviators"...
We wear parachutes not because of mechanical issues but because we fly so close together in thermals. If the guy takes out your tail this is the best way to survive....
sometimes, when i sit in the Ka 8 i still feel like this people :D
Wow incredible! The guy died because he appeared to be using too much up and down elevator, at too high an air speed. However, I must admit he had guts! Thanks for posting.
Well, these old Types often had Wire/Cable Controlled Surfaces. If the Controls aren't sufficiently tight the Control Surfaces have a lot of Play, which means the Pilot has to Overcontrol the Plane, he basically has to Chase his Plane's Movements which results in Oscillation both Aerodynamically and Pilot Induced, especially on Ailerons and Elevators.
That's why by the Mid 30s almost all new Types had Rod-Controlled Elevators at least, and by the 50s Ailerons also became commonly Rod Controlled.
I am glad i am learning to fly now rather than then, although the schulgleiter at 6:00 does look like fun!
most of the others just look downright scary!
Considering they had no modern 'high-tech' materials to build with, flights of two hours were remarkable and showed how well designed they were. Also, unlike todays pilots, they didn't have parachutes either....(incidentally, if gliding is so safe, how come so many wear a parachute?)
They had plenty of high tech materials to build with. And parachutes had already been a thing for decades when these were made. The first parachute jump was out of a hot air balloon. The first parachute jump out of an airplane was in the 1910's. These videos were made in the 1920s, post world war 1, where gliding was mostly done for sport and to further aeronautical development
That part with the Guy falling out freaked me out.
Very impressive. Some downright scary designs there.. at least one in he beginning looked like the type that killed Otto Lilienthal in 1896
These guys had guts!
I love the sg38
@@randomguyinanglider i didnt say the sg38 is from that time, i said i love that glider
Amazing footage!
8:47 8:52 i love how the ending comes
03:26 - A "classic" towing lockout. :)
Wow! Where do you guys come up with these old reals? Treasures! Thanks for sharing them with us.
Hi @Bomberguy please could you tell me what silent movie music was used throughout the first half of this clip? Many thanks
Ahh...the earliest concept of the ejection seat. Wasn't well thought-out.
No seat belt!
I know, right?
Great video mate! Puts in pictures what you will find in Anne Welch "The Story Of Gliding".
Yes, nice film from Itford meet.
nice and good
I guess when they say 'the end' they really mean it lol. Ouch. Never too late for NTSB to investigate? Pilot error? Human factors, pilot was under a lot of pressure to perform bc of audience and cameras? Cockpit resource management? Thx for upload, great stuff.
In the 1930s, if the pupil's first flight was solo, and if he had never been up with an instructor, then how could they be sure he wouldn't stall or spin? I know the very low wing loading must be part of the answer, but even so..?
There was a curriculum starting with slides, short hops, longer straight glides, S-turns with increasing bank, and so on, thus at least mitigating the risks. Of course most of these rules, and even today‘s rule books were written with blood.
@@kaihorstmann2783 Good reply, thanks.
i guess, he fell from like 30 metres
My father built one of these.
The gliders in the 30's looked a lot safer.
@47thMIU I guess that's what fatal end means.
super ces engins..
Damn, Must been one thrill of adrenaline
:))) Volcano = Auvergne first images Exposition old glider Broc 63...
1922 compétition de planeur proche de Clermont-Fd 63...
Je surveillé l'expo à force je connaissais bien les vidéos... C'est stressant. Surtout le remorquage ou le pilote planeur est mort...
No more so than the logo it is hiding
I guess seat belts hadn't yet been invented
PIO
The most annoying music I have ever heard.
You haven’t heard dub step I take it