Why Women Shouldn’t be Engineers | Naomi McGregor | TEDxDerryLondonderryWomen
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ธ.ค. 2020
- Naomi is a Ballet Instructor and Engineering Scholar with a very unique idea to share with the world! Naomi is passionate about smashing the stigma and creating pathways for Women in Engineering.
She combines a fascinating insight of the Arts & Women In Engineering. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
The reaction I get when I tell people I am in engineering is like they saw a ghost. My teachers in high school warned me about going into engineering because there is too many boys. So of course... I had to go for it! Best decision ever
His, plz tell me which engineering is best for girls. I wanted to be an engineer but I am totally confused what should I choose
Me too
I don't believe you.
@@preetkaur9215 All engineering disciplines are equally good for girls and equally bad for girls. Being a girl has nothing to do with it.
However, if you would like other ratings:
-Easiest: Civil Engineering
-Hardest: Chemical Engineering
-Most math-intensive: Civil Structural Engineering
-Most lucrative: Electrical Computer Software Engineering
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I’m 27. I have my educational background in linguistics. I am back in school now for computer science. I didn’t have the confidence to take high math classes even though I was advanced as a kid. My highest math was Statistics for research. Deep down I always had that itch that I can do it. I wish I had the confidence I do now. I am finally taking Calculus 1. I do not plan on stopping.
I always felt embarrassed saying what my major was not bc of men but bc i felt like i wasnt good enough for it, and people always said theres lots of men but i didnt really care
same
I am a woman and i make my Master degree in engineering in Germany ☺ I am so happy that I made it and we have more other girls in Germany who study engineering. Hope more girls in the whole world try it and see that it is not that hard as is sounds! :)
You can learn everything as good as every other human being!
Is it worth it for women to take master degree in engineering? I am 25 yo mechanical engineer and now im afraid of my own future...
@@mahdafiamudjeni9568 maybe it delends on where you want to work. I studied Aerospace engineering and you find much work in Germany (and everywhere)
@@mahdafiamudjeni9568 then quit doing it
The world is going backwards I see
I dont think being any other way would have helped me finish my engineering degree. There were about four women total that I could recognize as fellow engineers. There were hundreds of men. And only male teachers. I was at THE TOP of my class. Not in the 5%, the top. I won golden key. And then the hate towards me broke me. The lack of actual teaching done by the engineering teachers. I lost my memory and many of my abilities and did not get them back for years. Hate is harmful.
@@peace1033 Um, yes, this is what I have done. But it took about 20 years to recover. And 'fighting' is not a good strategy for me. I dont let ppl run over me anymore, ever, but fighting to be in a place where I am getting hurt just damages me more. I have a degree in cultural anthropology and I have a very clear understanding of just how sick the engineering culture is. Its not going to change for me. I just have to stay away from it
@@peace1033 I appreciate that you care. but please dont assume I havnt done these things. I just didnt want to go on and on about my life. Because its a lot. And no, I dont want to make any woman feel like engineering is going to be easy, because its not
As an Engineer
I could not understand the main point she is talking about
I also think if Engineer was a protected term it would be seen as a more reputable career in UK&IRE. It’s such a vastly used term that your average school kid who isn’t from an engineering background doesn’t know what an engineer is.
Especially given the UK's heritage of engineering and its importance in their history. You are correct its very bad that at school most kids don't learn what an engineer does or what they actually do.
The UK is a snake pit for engineers
I m from India....
And I also want to became an engineer.
Your words inspired me a lot🤗
Wonderful to hear you’re considering engineering! So many options and routes available.
I’m honoured that you took inspiration from this talk. Hope you embrace every opportunity within STEM and enjoy the journey!
How many female friends of yours are gonna pursue engineering?
We need more bold and strong women in the fields.
STEM can be a "frat party" sometimes.
No we don't. We need the best in all fields regardless of gender.
@@marktaylor865 Agreed. We need balance.
But this is 2 months ago, and I discovered there are more to work climate balances, and in other things income across other demographics.
As a female in the field, I agree 100 percent. That's one of many things you will experience in college and in the working world
Amazing speech Naomi. Very well done!!
Thank you!
I will be starting my first year in Civil Engineering in September! 😁
I hope u fail. You are embarassing your gender
amazing speech naomi!! ❤️❤️
Thank you Megan!! 😊
I am a second year computer engineer and one of my professors told me You don't have to be in engineering school as a female but I am still there for a positive experience
I’m so confused what does that mean
@@hibbakhan4809 the prof said "you must not be in engineering school as a female" but the commenter says she is still there for the experience
@@tsxmetai Why is that so?
@@Gogetaover90000 women are always judged when she steps forward for herself, especially in a male dominated domain like engineering. Sadly , this society is mysogynist and will remain so. It's just hopeless to live life as a woman. I hate the society's mysogynist mindset.
I wish more people could be more understanding about this...instead sometimes I hear people who blatantly invalidate the sexism I’ve gone through in going to a stem field....it saddens me to see how people reject the idea that some people have difference experiences and that these experiences affect us and affect our perception of ourselves. This doesn’t just go with sexism....this problem goes with anything that makes us different to the archetype of whatever we want to build a career from....let’s try to be kinder, more open minded, and more understanding of each other as to not discourage each other to practice a profession we find fulfilling and passionate about ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Increase speed x 1.75
Women who:
-are unwilling to deal with project uncertainty
-are unwilling to deal with the project blame game
-are unwilling to deal with the idle-time dilemma
-are unwilling to deal with the power nap dilemma
should not be engineers. And men who fit those those criteria should not be engineers either.
Gender has nothing to do with it.
What? I didn't understand any of those four statements and i am gonna become an engineer! I need to know what you wanna say! Help me!
@@iamjust1normalgirlfromindi446 Project schedule uncertainty: your boss will give you a complex project you have never done before and ask how long it will take. You will guess a number. You then implement the project in reality. You run into unexpected pitfalls you did not predict before. You fear being late. You are under stress from this.
The 1986 Challenger disaster and the 2010 Deepwater Horizon disaster were both rooted in project uncertainty.
@@iamjust1normalgirlfromindi446 Project blame game: in the late stages in a long-term project, the boss will realistically conclude that the project will fail. Therefore, his goal is not to get the work done, but to shift blame to his subordinates.
Example of project blame game: the blame game between BP, Transocean, and Halliburton during the government inquiry of the Deepwater Horizon disaster.
@@iamjust1normalgirlfromindi446 Idle time dilemma (excludes IT):
When you are in between projects, you naturally have idle time (time at work when you have nothing to do). On your timesheet, you cannot charge idle time. On paper, you must “look busy” all the time, even if you have nothing to do in reality.
Thank you😄 i got it. Thank you very much
they should be engineers
Exactly!
Here here!
Absolutely NOT
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@@merieem88 roh nk mk
you smashed it Naomi!! 😊
Thanks Liam!! Better start writing yours!
Being an engineer was great before kids, especially the high initial salary. But after kids it just doesn't seem to work for me. Too much stress, too much continuous learning, too many mistakes I make from being tired. I wish there could be a more family friendly career option for students who are good at math and science and highly disagreeable and more comfortable around men than women (me!).
What kind of engineering do you do? Can you work from home? That's much better option for someone who has kids, I would guess.
Geotechnical engineering.
Not much work from home options until you become more experienced and become manager/director role. Computer engineering would have been a more family friendly option.
You can do freelancing at home
@@jalobatimeIf you feel more comfortable with men than women and you have two children, then you are a bit ch. Sorry, not sorry 😊
My experience. The knowledge is not hard to get, it’s having enough confidence to trust in yourself despite many men that would tell you that you are wrong because they think they are always right. If you doubt in yourself they’ll use it. So, believe in yourself. I am sure you are smarter than what you or they think. I would say don’t trust too much in men, because theyll take advantage whenever they can. You trust yourself and your knowledge and if you don’t know keep investing. There is always some good exceptions who can be good allies. Dont care what they think, dont think about genders when you are at work, just focus on getting the job done. Its not easy because there are not many women that help to discipate the toxicity of a male environment. They think women are toxic, but they are not afraid of telling you things on your face, some don’t know good manners and they like to complain complain complain and gossip about their wifes. If you find a environment like this, run unless you have a very good reason to stay. If you don’t find a good work environment then create your own. I am sure you can do better.
When I was in grade school there were female engineering students at a nearby college, no one was discouraging them` interesting thing was these young women were all foreign born ` Russia USSR at the time from Hong Kong Iran South Korea ` this was back in 1977 ~ The American women had an inclination to not take engineering or math for some reason ~
Yeah this is true asian or Russian women are generally interested in engineering but the western ones are not
fabulous
What an amazing speech Naomi. Very well done! ❌🔴
Thank you so much Dylan!
@@naomimcgregor8950 Very well said Naomi, you’re not just an engineer you’re everything and anything you want to be and much more! Congratulations on your success so far.... it’s only the beginning ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@RecklessCoven Perfectly concluded Chrissy! Thanks so much. So glad you enjoyed it ❤️
why is it titled why they shouldnt rather it be why they should some of these videos are misleading
I didn't get that title too, mixed messaging throughout this video really. But in all, the positives are what I hope we can go with and encourage this speaker from in addressing women further. Women are good at anything and also tend to put more versatility into many kinds of crews for size differences and creativity skills. They also bring in balance from the homes to the labour force and to the economy. And children of both employed parents will be smarter especially when both parents have meaningful and creative work which the children can learn from as a residual effect at the dinner table and from events which allow children to visit their parents' workplaces.
huh?
you deaf
orr......?
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Next one should be why you shouldn’t be an engineer in the UK.
I always wondered why women want right to study anything when they mostly choose biology in science department
There are exceptions and as an major in pure physics you all have my respect for your efforts who try to study whatever they dream for.
idk how the situation in your country but in my country most of engneering student are female
Are you from Algeria? I worked with an Algerian woman and that's what she was telling me. I personally received more limiting comments from western countries and had great experiences working with "macho" cultures...what counts is you get your work done.
@@serialmigrant no i am from iraq and i don't know what the situation after collge (even if know the company's dont realy care about gender )
@@user-wf1sg7oj9x Algeria has more female engineers than male (55-45%). I looked it up when there was talk at work about assigning me in Algeria. I speak French, but the Canadians decided against it...I still wonder who cared most about it...
@@serialmigrant I am Algerian and that is not true actually... It's true that in Algeria u can find more women engineers compared to other countries but there are still a bit more men engineers than women in my country... but it is a bit balanced tho. Honestly, there is a clear difference between the two genders when I observe engineering classes in most Algerian universities, there are more male students who study it than women.
@@chlefboy1117 y do men always get offended when the statistics show equality?
Female student in engineering basically endorsed with extra care than male ones regardless of practical training, tutorials science or maths related subject they would receive the most attention, during working environment male engineer or assistance engineer are likely required to perform better or expect more from male than female engineer, on the other hand ironically I heard male in nursery school had extra LESS care than female candidate and even worse in terms of treatment in clinics, public health centre and hospital. One day they should know some men were enduring the same pain in some areas but they just tolerate it. Female scientifically proven that has more sensitive neurones than man, might be one of the contributing factor I wonder.
Generally speaking female engineer are more forgiving at least in my country, with the support of the idea of being “Gentleman”, let the man handle the business bla bla bla. The problem solved once they are employed, they might struggle with the process of job hunting and interviews to begin with however that’s that there will be nothing but smooth sailing waiting for them.
Anyone knows her IG?
Stop sabotaging yourself. I can't do that, well did you try? No? Then you are lying to yourselves and others. People don't like lying colleagues.
Demand for women in stem has a double meaning.
its giving legally blonde
You shouldn’t be an engineer anyway because the architect takes credit for everything.
True that
I don t think women should drive big trucks Big buses Other things I don t think women should do I am for women train drivers
Omfg. You challenged your own perceptions and were surprised you were wrong. Next!
She doesn't seem very happy honestly... If she really had no pressure i think she wouldn't herself against her nature.
she's so boring ;-; My attention was lost at 1min
This is complete bullsh!t it has nothing to do with judgement.
The fact is engineering is project based work. You work to the demands of the project which = 50-60 hour work weeks and no working hours flexibility.
In short if you want a poor work life balance choose engineering
The typical hours for engineers are 40hour work week, it's barely 50-60
@@mindhunter8772 Bullsh!t what type of engineering are you talking about.
In engineering you must work to project demands.
In construction this is 50-60 hour weeks.
In civil and structural it is often 50-60. hours a week
Its not 40 hours a week dont talk BS
@@ruijackson7697 Automation engineering and Process engineering
@@mindhunter8772 Not true
@@ruijackson7697 I’m an Aerospace manufacturing engineer, and I work 40-45 hours a week. The test engineers in the same facility work upwards of 50 hours pretty regularly though. Design engineers go from periods of working 40 hours a week to 60 hours if their project is behind schedule. Depends on your company and your field tbh.
Dude nobody cares
Then, why are you here?
You're one of the reasons she made this Ted talk
It seems to me the speaker was already afraid of challenging stereotypical norms.
However...is the stereotype wrong?
I do know SOME women that are good at engineering and solving mechanical and electrical problems, but most women have no interest. It is mostly relationships and babies.
So, let's say that women are the same as men but women also have a calling to motherhood.
Is this patriarchy or just fact?
I have worked with a few women in the automotive industry and rotorcraft, only 1 of them was one I actually respect out of about 15.
Although I indulged all the women I worked with, ultimately, all but one was genuine. The rest had gotten their place through what I guess was positive discrimination.
I am as sad as the speaker would be, but this is my truth.
I love working with women, but they have different skills than men.
I hate to reinforce stereotypes, but types are there for a reason.
Well, maybe that's because how society brings up girls since they were children. We don't get to have the freedom as much as guys. Girls were given dolls to play and would be treated as fragile, weak persons. So it's not that easy to challenge that type of mentality. Girls were brought up to be good mothers, wives, daughters etc. They aren't supposed to do hard work. So, it's normal for women to hesitate before doing something. Mostly women have to follow way too many rules unlike guys in childhood.
As a woman I completely agree with you. Thank you for speaking up on the truth. Most women do not want to go into STEM but they are being pushed by the feminists and its doing a disservice to women because most women are not suited to these job roles so you get bad female scientists and engineers which is going to cause alot of animosity from good female and male scientists and engineers.
you know what? Men have different skills than women and we still can tolerate. There are men out there that can only do engineering because they are just introverts and scared of doing anything else. they call it passion. We have never said that women are same as men, that's a very ridiculous thing to say. Women have a calling for motherhood and that's one more thing you men are lacking and you should respect and be grateful that you are born by a woman. "But" women have different skill sets than men, and what is wrong with that? And you should respect everyone you encounter at work because that's what humans do. Men like you truly have to learn how to respect women engineers, then a better world will come one day! Good luck to you!
The issue is kids gets socialized at a very young age on what their skills are supposed to be based on gender. I was raised by a single, divorced man. In kindergarten I was stuck at the pretend cooking station and the other little girls all said "when I grow up I want to be a mom", and I asked what does a mom do? They said cook and clean. My response was my dad cooks and cleans and he does not look like he is having fun at all, that makes no sense why you want to do that when you grow up. I showed very early on a love of maps and drawing building plans to scale, buulding castles for my ponies. Nobody took away the graph paper or lego blocs and shoved a doll in my hands telling me what im supposed to play with. I'm a construction engineer and do well. No surprise there.
@@serialmigrant Funny. I was raised by my grandmother and then my mum (mom) in my early teens. She made TV programmes. I think I definitely 'benefited' from a female perspective, but those same traits have messed with my head in many ways down the line because they were not my natural way of being. I do however now have strengths many men don't have but I also inherited some weaker traits too.
Engineering women are freaking weird and awkward at my job they can’t hold e contact and always walk around like someone gonna rob them
me asf
Dude, they probably have social anxiety. They unknowingly end up reinforcing the stereotypes of engineers being socially awkward...
@@anomaly9156 this is so true
@@anomaly9156 righT
She is lying, nobody "judges" female engineers or engineering students.
@E S this probably depends on where you are geographically, and what field. Some engineering fields have different types of vibes. You’re supposed to be smarter than this. 🙄
You are privileged if you have not experienced the gender discrimination. Don't let your privilege blind you.
@@keamogetsoeipeleng5565 No, you dont let your prejudice blind you.
There is no gender prejudice within engineering.
@@ruijackson7697 I'm sorry to break it to you, but there is. The guys in my class constantly act like I know nothing and act like I'm someone who needs their help, ... (I'm studying mechanical engineering and I'm the only girl in my class) It is really annoying, I'm happy you never had to experience that, because it can destroy your confidence.
@@never5618 Bullsh!t you just wanna use that as an excuse.
Engineering mathematics depends on getting the correct answer. It has nothing to do with people in your class "act like you know nothing"
You pass or fail an exam by getting the right answers.Not whether somebody in your class "acts like you know nothing"
2+2=4 does not depend on gender or anything else.
The only confidence you need is to complete practice questions and get them correct.
The rest is just looking for BS excuses