4K Virtual Pinball vs Real Pinball (Medieval Madness) Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video I compare the gameplay of my Medieval Madness LE pinball machine to the Skitso mod 1.1 VPX table of Medieval Madness. #VPX #medievalmadness #pinball
Thanks for the video. Really noticing in the comparison the lighting in the vpin would be much better for old fart eyes like mine 😎
The other small but I think important is the sound feedback when you cradle the ball, the small ball bouncing on your flipper before the ball settles/stops is a nice touch.
Shout out to all the legends that recreate these tables
The lighting is fully adjustable on most of the newer tables thankfully, plus there is even base adjustments in the VPX editor with the day/night slider. The sound of the feedback is great but you can also feel those ball movements from the transducers in the tips of your fingers, makes it that much more immersive.
Great comparison 👍 liked and subbed
Thanks man
@@Major_Drain I'm buying medieval madness remake 2023.
@@TampaTec they are great machines, build quality is superb! I only have about 100 plays on my LE but my buddy has about 12k on his SE and the playfield still looks brand new!
And yes, the REAL one is far superior. That castle blowing up is hilarious! Super fun machine.
Of course the real machine is always going to be better but the question is how close does the virtual table measure up.
@@Major_Drain It is damn close. I only have the virtual one at this point. Real machines being 10k is ridionkulous. I love playing these. It does give me the game play fix. !!!!
@@Major_Drain haptic feel is definitely better on the real one.
I would take either one. Since the pandemic I have had to sell about 10 of my machines to cover mortgage payments. You really can beat a pinball machine of your own. In the arcade, it is too loud and too busy and they are not always working right and it gets expensive to play it too many times.
That’s a bummer to hear man, sucks parting ways with our machines but at least they are an appreciating asset in the current market. The home environment is definitely the best way to play pinball & learn a new machine.
Awesome as always.... how the hell are you finding these Unopen Gems! Fantastic video as always Dodd! So how was the feeling of these two with respect to FFB? Also, you loaded this one onto the machine or was it included from AU?
Thanks Randall...... it’s either manifest destiny or a fool and his money are soon parted, I haven’t figured out which yet haha. I think the table author had the FFB dialed back a bit, you could still hear and feel it but wasn’t set to maximum, same with the shaker settings. The shaker on the real table is ridiculously strong even when turned down to the minimum. Yeah I loaded this one on the machine myself.
Wow.. that's pretty damn impressive 😳
That was so great to see. Love this kind of video thanks for posting !
Great video. Love your insights
Thanks for taking the time to watch it, much appreciated!
Great video, nice to see a straight up comparison! The way the ball bounces and flows is just so much different on the virtual one.
and am i the only one that is bothered by the look of the virtual pinball because of the cheap small coindoor?
There are more similarities than differences in gameplay, TH-cam limits this video at 60hz while in person I’m playing at 120hz.
Think if you adjust your lighten to be a bit darker in vpx it would be a super close comparison
Yeah I wasn’t too hip to VPX settings adjustments like day/night slider when I made this video.
i was never a collector, but i had medieval madness, star trek tng, indiana jones, white water and demolition man
this was back when prices weren't crazy
sadly i had to sell them in august 2009 when i was going through a divorce and moved into a condo
Those are some great machines, sorry you had to downsize due to the ex wife. I let my wife pick every 4th machine to keep her happy haha.
Ever tried Zen Pinball 2 on PS3... on a 3DTV.. looks pretty real.. it's amazing too...
Yes indeed I have Zen Pinball FX3 on my virtual pinball cabinet, they have some fun original tables.
Great demo 👍
Pros - Virtual pinball is affordable, mostly maintenance free, and can hold many pinball tables, and saves space in your home.
Con- virtual pins lose value over time but real pinball machines are collectible.
Virtual pinball machine can't earn money on location but real pinball machines are used in vending business and earn about $100 month. Real pinball is the best experience but virtual pinball is getting more real.
I think you can configure virtual pinball to accept real money securely. You are right that as tech improves, VPs will just keep getting better leading to a depreciating asset vs a mechanical version.
Honestly, I think the cost is the main issue. Even at the top of the line, VPs will be about 8.5k. Mechanical pinball machines usually start around 2k but many are 7-8k+ with quite a few over 10k. They also require alot of maintenance and I believe are heavier.
As an investment, no question which is better, but honestly, considering the HUGE price spike in the last 10 years, but sure how much more they have room to appreciate beyond inflation
you can buy coin doors that take coins for credits, or press the coin return to enter credit. so yes you can make $$ on a virtual table, there is an arcade about 45 min away from me with a pinball room and they have 2 virtual tables that take credits to play
virtual always looks amazing!
Impressive what they are doing these days in VPX
@@Major_Drain very , I have a widebody cabinet in progress, 14-16 weeks for completion cant wait!
Cool!! I'll be back later..
Picking up Theatre of Magic tomorrow!
Ahh snap it’s finally arrived! Let us know what you think when you get it all setup.
@@Major_Drain So far so good. The machine isn't perfect, but i didn't really expect it would be. Needs a little bit of work. I'll be reconfiguring the lighting too, and definitely adding some spotlights... It's a trip having this thing after not playing it since I just graduated from HS.
Fixed the trunk and a handful of other minor issues. 👍
@@808zhu that’s awesome man, It’s great to have that first love in the collection. Can’t wait to see it after you get it all fixed up! Gotta expect some wear for an older classic like that, you know it has seen some flips! The Black Rose was the machine I used to play back in high school and it was the 2nd pin in my collection, gotta have that first love!
@@Major_Drain Sweet. You should stream that sometime. Curious how it is. 😊 How's your day going?
Which one would you say is more fun.
The real machine is much harder and more fun but it is crazy expensive when the virtual table gives you the same vibe for free.
Love the videos where can somebody buy a virtual pinball machine and which one in your opinion would be the best one to buy
There are several options depending on your budget. Prices range from 1-2 thousand up to 10k. I bought mine from Xtreme Gaming Cabinets out of Australia but you also might want to look at Virtua Pin or Rec Room World for other options.
You know if they could get some more advanced lighting and shadows in those games it would look way closer to real.
They look fantastic in VR but way more washed out on a flat screen, I agree tho shadows are the key!
@@Major_Drain Yeah maybe they can port tables over to UE5 who knows
Do you have a link to that Virtual Pinball machine? I like that one
SUPER I liked the comparison with a real pinball and à Pincab.
The Pincab is really well made it looks like a real pinball.
Can you tell me where did you get this Pincab ( fake pinball)
Thank you very much
Thank you for watching….I purchased my Virtual Pincab from Xtreme Gaming Cabinets out of Australia.
@@Major_Drain Are you satisfied ?
How is the after-sales service if you have a problem with the virtual pinball machine., are they responsive ?
Are you happy with the pincab that Xtremegamingcabinets made for you?
Do you recommend this manufacturer ?
I hesitate between two stores Retro play and Xtremegamingcabinets !
I live in France and I have not found any Pincab that suits me except in Australia.
Have you ever had trouble with this Pincab ?
How long did you wait to have it at home ?
Thank you in advance for your answers.
Best regards
@@edeunm9681 I’m very happy with my machine, haven’t had any issues in 18 months of ownership. XGC have promptly answered any questions I’ve had. I highly recommend them, they build their cabinets from the ground up and use high quality components. The biggest drawback is the waiting time, it’s not uncommon to wait 9 months(including shipping).
This POV ( point of view ) looks great, BUT the position of the camera, is not a real player view, you have to do a lot of POV tweaks to look somewhat real.
Might be a dumb question, but is there a virtual machine I can buy somewhere with Medieval Madness already on it?
Yes arcade 1up has that in the attack from Mars bundle….. but I would recommend getting an ATgames legend and running free VPX software thru a computer linked to the vpin cabinet. You can get all the classic games like medieval madness and many newer titles as well.
Any chance you could do this with Cyclone?
Unfortunately I don’t own a real cyclone machine to compare.
Did you make any adjustments to the flipper physics settings?
No I didn’t make any adjustments to the physics just changed the ball color to make it easier to follow on the video.
Why are you in such a rush to get multiball when you just completed one objective?
You do know you can stack multiballs, right?
I tend to get a better score when I don’t stack mutliball modes, opens more Jackpots lanes but once you drain it’s harder to start over. By cashing them in individually I just get more opportunities to score longer and increases my chances taking out more castles.
SO what can you adjust in VPX on a table.... angle? Auto refire, balls?
You can adjust just about everything in VPX, from physics, lighting, graphics, table pitch and more. Most games have their original menus so you can make the game easier or harder depending on how you want the table to play, everything is adjustable!
@@Major_Drain wow cool my old POS vpin never had those options
Hope you had a great trip my friend
If you're pinball enthusiasts...you'd want the real ones..visual pinballs are for those who dont' care much....and not picky about the real pinballs
If your a real enthusiast you like myself you like both. I have 32 real pinball machines and I still enjoy practicing on my virtual pin almost everyday. Great way to learn the rules and develop strategies for scoring.
@@Major_Drain The closest 1-1 comparison of vpin to real I have found so far is Funhouse by Wrd1972. VPW's Machine Bride of Pinbot is fairly close as well.
I was disappointed in my performance of playing on a real Monster Bash after I played VPW's version so often. Visually it looks great. It plays great, but it feels different. I can hit the scoop on VPW at will. On a real machine, I couldn't hit it to save my life. Although to be fair, two real tables of the same game can play very differently, through wear and tear, or mods.
I have played about 16 or so real tables and compared to their VPX versions. I played worse on real tables, every time. Visually Vpin is getting closer, but the lighting still needs to improve a bit and the ball feels weightless still, even if the physics are close. Not sure how to remedy that.
I think the fake version looks better lol
Lol
3-D ...you can't beat the real one on that..the physics on the real one is better..the color on the real one is better..just about everything is better...the haptics. is better on the real one.
It’s not about which one is better, I think anybody with half a brain knows the answer to that. The real question is how close is the digital version to the real thing.
the input lag looks awful
Lag is constantly measured by the software, averages about 1-2 mili seconds….it’s not perceivable in person. I have a large collection of real machines and wouldn’t even bother to play virtual pinball if lag was an issue.
Why is the music so low on the virtual machine? You're doing it a disservice.
The point of the video is to compare, physics & gameplay….not sound quality or volume. They both use the same ROM but obviously the Vpin is much louder due to the extra speakers & bigger sub woofer.
VR pinball isn't even close to Real pinball machines.
Who said anything about VR pinball?