Germany Could Not Win WW2
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- A look into why the Germans could not pull a win out of the war with the realities they found themselves in.
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So I made an oopsie posting cringe. France Surrendered on June 22, 1940 after Paris fell June 14. I do my best to be as accurate as possible, especially with such a simple thing, but we all make mistakes. Please berate me in the replies as mercilessly as possible. I don't think that changes anything to do with my general point though, France is a smaller country with good infrastructure and a perfect target for a fast German campaign of movement as unless the Germans are stopped and bogged down, the French can only retreat and consolidate their lines so much before they've lost too much of their country to continue supporting organized resistance and will be forced to agree to terms. The USSR however is a vast country, with very poor roads and infrastructure that makes a German style fast campaign much more difficult right out of the gate as unless the Red Army evaporates away within a very short time, the Germans will very quickly face attrition to vehicles, supply shortages, over extension, and just plain inability to put enough of the country under their heel to force their demands before their striking power is diminished and the whole thing bogs down. As fate would have it, the Red Army didn't simply melt after Minsk fell and once the campaign continued past the planned end date in September, the previously mentioned potential problems began to rear their heads leading to the big oofs we all know today. Sorry for the big book, I just wanted to jump in and correct myself, please resume your regularly scheduled viewing. -Jonny
P.S. If you feel there is another "win" possibility, check out part two to this video to see if I have covered it before you post your own cringe. Stay safe out there my dudes.
They would have won if they used artillery only.
What was the source of the video where the historian says it was all Adolf hitler Adolf hitler adolf hitler. I have a friend who subscribes to the point of Hitler always made the bad decisions
yea... don't invade russia. stalin didn't think it would happen for 10 years. rebuild consolidate power, and when the time is right finish the UK. Then worry about Russia.
Sometimes i wonder if the western world took the Marxist radical threat more seriously around the time of the great depression when Marxist propaganda was being spread more rampantly, and as a consequence North America and Europe made it a deal with Germany that if they took down Stalin they wouldn't interfere, and perhaps even offer economic assistance to Germany, could the coldwar be averted?
And if all the deaths under communism during the coldwar could be averted because of a German victory over communism, would there have been less death and war if the coldwar could have been avoided by also avoiding WW2 with Germany by allowing them to take the Sudatenland and to conquer what they believed was "cultural Bolshevism", but in reality was just authoritarian Marxism? Do you think this alternate history could've resulted in less deaths and world conflict by just allowing Germany to expand east? Or would of this resulted in more death than the 100+ million under communism?
Daniel Bertrand I think it would have caused more death as the Germans wanted to exterminate the populous of any country they took over and replace them with their own people.
Göring ate the German ammunitions stock that’s why they lost
Is it true they used to call you "brosif stalin"
lol.. yeah what a pig.. the hero
@@Ronnie-Jones why don't you just tell us now? The cliff notes if you don't mind ;)
"You ate our ammunition!!?"
"How do you think I got so FAAAAAAAT?"
Actually, it was true. The luftwaffe was shit.
Why didn't Germany just use console to give itself manpower and equipment
The mods were dicks.
It was on Ironman mode.
Legit though, I remember being a kid in a tank museum gawking at a king tiger. I couldn't understand how Germany lost with such awesome machine's...then I grew up.
Not allowed in a multiplayer game
fuel 500000
Obviously they lost because Steiner was unable to attack
ERGOMED ASa DAS WAR EIN BEFEHL!!
Best comment.
I3LacKFuSSioN DAS ANGRIFF STEINERS WAR EIN BEFEHL
Mit dem Angriff Steiners wird schon das schon in Ordnung kommen.
"I would rather put a bullet in my head,rather than escaping berlin"
I don’t get why the Nazis didn’t just get a 25 killstreak on surrendering poles and call in a tactical nuke on Moscow
Thank god the Hitlerites were playing World at War and not MW2.
killstreaks won't be added for another like 20 years or so
Tbh if the French burning Moscow didn't stop the Russians in the napoleonic wars I doubt Moscow being nuked would stop them much, hell its galvanise the Soviets!
I think at that time there was a glitch in the KS system. They fixed it now.
@@dragonslayer7724 1945
some nut: "just build more planes!"
Germany: "jee, what a good idea! why didnt i think of that?"
And yet....
Goering thought building long-range bombers was a good use of resources, but never built enough to make a difference when he could have had 5 Stukas for every Henkel. Even worse when you consider the Wehrmacht's entire doctrine revolved around the tactical fight.
Fun fact: They actually did but they didn’t have enough oil to fly them
Edy van Tol Big F
@@tbeller80 Just no,
1. Göring buildet Lots of HE111 because He wanted to destroy enemys infastracture and factorys and bomb the enemy to capitulation the JU87 Was an very bad choice for this because there had a small fuel Tank and are very easy targets for enemy figthers
2.the doctrine of the Wehrmacht wasnt changed to tactical bombing because HE111 normaly dont attack enemy troops only the Luftwaffe Added new doctrine for tactical bombing but the JU87 Was nearly the complete war in use
Just build more things forehead!
You forgot to mention: when Napoleon captured Moscow, the Russians responded by *burning down the city*
Under-Rated Comment.
Moscow was not the capital at the time, St Petersburg was.
_Cheeki Breeki_
At that time there supply lines were extremely streched so if they took it and keept on pushing they would starved
Thats smart move.
They burned everything on napoleon'way so army didnt have nothing to eat.
Uhm, actually if a supervolcano had broken out and exploded the entirety of Russia, the Germans could have won easy
Yeah, but that only works for the couple of weeks before the Russians mount the lavabears and ride them to Berlin. Tale as old as time.
If a 10km radius meteor hit the Urals the Germans could've won so easily
@@gggaming4tg No one would win. How can you win when no one is alive?
@@robert.m6755 woosh
@@robert.m6755
Big woosh
With the "Wunderwaffe" argument one comparison comes to mind:
German "Wunderwaffen":
A jet that had to have its engines completely replaced after 6 hours, a tank that couldn't get off the road or cross a bridge, and a gun that would jam as soon as it left the factory
American wonder weapons:
A portable star.
That being said, I do wish that the Germans did get around to building some of their more wacky Wunderwaffe weapons. The P-1000 Ratte would've been a sight to behold in a museum
I feel like an unsung American wonder weapon was their manufacturing capacity. Being able to make whatever weapons you need and get them wherever you need them to be is a much bigger flex than "Rolf has big gun."
German weapons were superior in quality to American weapons. It all comes down to the fact that the Germans couldn't outproduce them.
To be fair, the jet engine situation was still better than the alternative of increasingly complicated DB605 engines that were slowly becoming more unreliable. And German firearms didn't jam any more than any other nation's firearms.
@@tjenadonn6158hear hear. People love to bang on about German tanks and the StG-44 and other high-tech German weapons, but they weren’t able to produce them in meaningful numbers. Meanwhile, America was able to issue every infantryman a semi-auto rifle, build _six million carbines_ for everyone else, and literally build ships faster than the Axis could sink them. It’s less of “10 lions versus 100 rats” and more of “3 lions versus 5,000 rats”.
IMO a common problem with these “what if” scenarios is that it assumes the allies would have continued doing what they did in reality as opposed to changing their strategy to counter the changed German strategy
Or that there response would be "On nose, we have been defeated! There is no hope!"
Wolfenstein moment.
Pretty much yeah.@@russkatherealoriginal6904
The questions of how tf they got nukes, how tf they got them past both British and American air defenses, carriers, radars, and planes, how tf the destruction of two cities made the US surrender instead of causing pearl Harbor 2.0, and most important of all how tf they even managed to occupy both Russia and the US at the same time. There's a limit on how many german soldiers you could reasonably put around the world without their influence being worthless.
Of course the game doesn't care cause it's a game first and foremost. Shame some people can't do a bit of thinking and realize WHY it didn't happen.
@@thunderspark1536they literally explained it in the game… a big part of the plot is finding out where all the super tech came from
@@ryancialone3045 its kinda funny to me because the game essentially admits that germany would've needed sum' literal space aliens technology to win.
15 year olds explaining to hitler that if he had just changed his division template he would've won the war:
I just spam naval bombers over the English Channel
@@thefrenchareharlequins2743 Also spamming subs is very useful for naval supremacy
Maybe his air was bugged
The UK was Player-Controlled and used that Air Experience to buff the Engines and Weapons on their Planes.
The SS killing them in suspicion of them being spies
Why didn’t Germany just open the console and just ‘Annex All’
They say, if it doesn't make sense, well, maybe you're full of shiet
I see someone plays hoi4
Agree, Germany was fighting against all odds, but, things happen sometimes. They did save Europe from Bolsheviks.....half of it.
They were playing ironman
Joshua Hadley They should've installed a couple mods tbh.
Germans in WW2 was literally their best timeline. People underestimate the insane luck Nazis had.
I agree. They won in France because of their ennemy incompetence more than anything else.
Imagine in another universe where world war 2 is literally just germany invading poland and then failing miserably
@@inyourwalls-q6p If Russia didnt attack from the east and Polands hands werent tied because of their pact with allies.......
I mean odds would have been against them clearly but it would have been possible.
It is quite imageable because it's sort of happening right now. Nowadays Russia is a bad cosplay of The Third Reich and I strongly believe that putins ultimate goal was to somehow recreate a modern version of USSR with all this "russian world" ideology, occupying/annexing/forcefully intergrating with Ukraine, Belarus, probably part of Kazakstan and Georgia. But Russia invaded Ukaine and failed miserably just like tou say it.@@inyourwalls-q6p
No wonder slavs are low iq
If the Nazis had just fled to their moon base, they could have activated their space laser and destroyed Russia, winning the war.
Ah yes the space nazis
Should of just made it in Argentina :/
Thought the space lasers were Jewish…
Iron Sky movie 1, 2 .
LMAOOO "space nazis" 🤣🤣🤣
Hitler lost the war,
This enraged his father who punished him severely
In hell.
Fuck you
Mario Thomas ahhaahaha
Wrong video bud
@@LikhonaGwanxu-eb1cg I think all of us HERE have watched that one
They should have just done the infinite oil glitch 🤷🏾♂️
damn, but they patched that after Barbarossa
If America had known about Germany's oil supply they'd be the first country to attack them. Even before the war broke out.
america want
I forgot how too
@@combatpig3435 you should have looked it up on google
In highschool, I did an oral presentation on the Battle of Britain. I went into it intending to make it about how Germany could have successfully invaded Britain, but after research I ended up making a presentation about how Germany was totally incapable of defeating Britain at that time due to the lack of adequate landing craft and Britain's dominance in the air thanks to the cracking of the Enigma coding machine.
Or even a proper fucking navy. Their real one was a complete joke that wouldn't have been able to escort one landing craft to Britain's beaches.
+ Royal Navy
Enigma was cracked in 41 whereas the Battle of Britain was 1940…
@@dp9862 well technically it was first cracked in 1931 - 1932 by the poles, however engima was updated. The first Bomba at Bletchley Park was delivered in March 1940. The first enigma machine caught by the British was by the Royal Navy which was in May 1941 by HMS Bulldog, I believe this is what you are referring to.
@@dp9862 while you are technically correct, "The Blitz", the campaign of Luftwaffe air raids on Britain, lasted well into 1941. British sources divide that period into "The Battle of Britain" and the rest of the The Blitz, but German sources treat is as a single campaign. During the latter half, the RAF did make use of Ultra and the cracked Enigma code.
What if Goering challenged Churchill to a hotdog eating contest
Meyer*
@@OgalyBogaly
You Sir are a top Tier commenter
@@OgalyBogaly people always get hermann's last name wrong smh, it should be meyer, not göring
@@OgalyBogalyI know he got the nickname from an aged-well speech about allied bombers over germany but who's Meyer and what did he do?
@@gabrielho1874 that's the entire joke
You guys are missing the point. Germany could have won if the allies lost
Exactly. Why in the world did Germany not consider that strategy?
Comrade Chris oh damn you’re right why didn’t I think of that?
Well dam. If only they knew that back then!
Of Course!
My goodness, that's a great idea! Why didn't I think about that earlier?
They always ask: "what if nazis had nukes?"
But they never ask: "how could nazis get nukes?"
@@hayax And what will they build those nukes with? *Looks at the destroyed only heavy water plant in whole of Europe.*
@@jackstickeye5139 Besides nukes don't guarantee victory when you look at Japan the nuclear bombings are not even the most destructive raids unleached on the country, and I'm not sure a country like russia would surrender after a nuke bombing, given they bore 5 millions losses in the first 6 months. Also you need complete air superiority to actually launch the bomb safely (and for the cost of building it you better not botch the launch) something Germany never achieved except in early 1941 on the eastern front. Finally since it the most industrialised, technologically advanced and prosperous nation of the time until 1945 to have the bomb i really don't see how germany could have gotten it before being rekt by standard weapons
Taking over sovit union and getting the bomb plans cuz spes
I mean they always ask “what if” rather than “how” which is the crux of the argument
They ask “what if” because the germans are researching how they are gonna make nukes and because they are near on making it so thats why they ask “what if”
Hold on. What if German spies stole the plans for the Bob Semple tank and instead of building Tiger II's and Panthers, built a bunch of Bob Semple tanks to use on all fronts?
More lebensraum
Okay that would be game over
They would help against the horde of red army soldiers as long they don’t have anti-tank rifles
Germany had fuel shortages?
Just build hybrid tanks, duh.
Just build synthetic refineries, like it’s so easy.
Why not a Tesla tank. Fuel shortages gone
@Jason Buford they tried to take Russia's oil hitler commanded to take the oil in the Arden's instead of taking moscow
It could've have worked if they weren't encircled in stalingrad
@Jason Buford yes The Soviets manufacture was at it peak
And its makig so many tanks and planes that the germans are on the blink of breaking
The germans on that point have lost most of its fuel and manpower
While the soviets are ready to throw more tanks and reserve's in the front line
The germans have lost even without D-Day
@Jason Bufordeven without the lend lease the soviets are still a force to be wrecking with
The Soviets are capable of creating t 34s faster than all of the axis combined even at 1944 the germans had no planes and the soviets dominated the sky's no problem
Even without the lend lease even if the UK surrenders
Even if they take moscow
Russia is big!
And it will take more than 20+million dead soviets to capitulate them (in fact the deaths will only inspire then to keep going not letting the sacrifices of their comrades in vain)
In the end of the war the soviets had more planes then The UK and the US combined
I think Germany could have won if they had the power of friendship on their side
They just needed Eren Yeager
They just didn't believe in the heart of the cards enough
If Narutoinks can talk down pain and Obito, then surely Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt can talk down Hitler.
Germany:This is where I would put my useful allies IF I HAD ANY!
@@sooryan_1018
That clown?
Hitler in 1945:
“Don’t worry guys, I have a plan.”
*Adolf69 has left the game.*
@the gamer division I see a man of culture
TheRisingSun i see a nuke
Duck Quack I see bread
good laugh
Duck Quack I see two
"What if Germany took over all of western Russia?"
**Shows Soviet flag over Reichstag**
How many people lived in Siberia in 1939?
30M (including the Urals)
How many people lived in Central Asia in 1940?
17M
This however does not account for population growth in Siberia from 1939 to 1941. Nor does it account for population growth in Central Asia from 1940 to 1941.
How many people were evacuated east in 1941 and 1942?
16.5M
Population of the Soviet Union including people who were evacuated: 63.5M
Population of the Soviet Union not including people who were evacuated: 47M
Accounting for population growth, you could possibly get a population of 50 to 70M depending on whether or not you want to include the amount of people who were evacuated. (more people than France, roughly same population as Germany including the amount of people who were evacuated)
How many forces did the Soviets have in the Far East?
The Soviet Union had 1,200,000 soldiers in the Far East by December of 1941 and this number actually increased during the war due to mobilization.
The Soviet Union had 7,500 tanks in the Far East during the Second World War. Compare this to the 11,000 tanks they had at the start of Operation Barbarossa,
The Soviet Union only ever sent 300,000 of these soldiers and 2500 of these tanks to the Eastern Front.
Not including tanks which were produced during the war or the soldiers who were mobilized in the Far East after December of 1941, they would have 900,000 soldiers and 5,000 tanks.
This of course does not include the soldiers they had in Central Asia or the rest of Siberia.
What did the Far East produce?
1800 Tanks per Year
4800 Aircraft per Year
6600 Artillery per Year
360 Armoured Cars per Year
The Far East was the least developed region in the Soviet Union so this is only a small fraction of the amount they were capable of producing.
This however does not include production in the rest of Siberia, especially the Urals where most of the production took place.
A substantial amount of industry was evacuated to the Urals.
@@nimdaqayoure forgetting this was a war of extermination the russians werent going to give up and let themselves be genocided. Even if the germans managed to conquer western russia the soviets would have turned the occupation into a massive quagmire if they could hold the territory for any length of time at all.
@@YOSSARIAN313My dude, I am literally stating that the Hitlerites would not have achieved victory even if they did conquer the western territories. So we agree, I didn’t say anything about it not being a genocidal war. The Hitlerite invaders could expect a lot of partisans as well alongside the remaining parts of the Soviet Union which had a population larger than France and a population similar to Germany if you include the Soviet people that were evacuated east. The Soviet Union would have a substantial amount of industry with the factories being relocated to the Urals.
Germany could have won if they make ally with the Emus
New Scenario:
The year is 2019. Germany has captured the entire world by allying with the Emu Empire. The Emus quickly defeated the Australians, then turned on the U.S. San Francisco is eaten. Europe has fallen from the Emu mercenaries. I am currently writing this from my San Francisco bunker since the U.S. resistance is launching a last ditch nuke. It will not work.
No, after the emu war, the Australians and emus signed a treaty.
We now have the most powerful army in the entire universe, we also allied with the drop bears.
Niall R707 This is the end of humanity...
Hell yed
Phúc gang Ah I see someone’s been watching oversimplified ey?
Ok but how about this theory?
Hitler's moustache was responsible for many of the poor decisions made in the war. It obstructed his view just enough to obscure key elements in the war room and it was probably itchy at moments, thus affecting his decision making capacity. I posit the following theory: had he shaved his moustache as early as 1939, we'd be looking at an axis victory. Thanks for coming to my Ted-talk.
Can't disagree with that
Beyond doubt you have solved WW2.
You're missing the bigger picture here though. Had Hitler shaved his moustache, Stalin would've never formed an agreement with him at the start of the war due to his inferior facial hair.
@@indy_com Solid point. However, I don't think Stalin would have given up on the chance to improve his tactical capabilities. A soviet shave was all but inevitable. A grooming race was on the horizon and was all but averted by Hitler's commitment to the womb broom.
@@indy_com ah but an easy fix is to just shave it after the pact is signed
I know I didn't just see Teen Titans hentai in a Nazi Germany video...
You know,
Maybe you did
@Nicholas Davis uhhhh...lucky guess? 😅
Knowing what hentai it is, is worse than having hentai in a WW2 video.
@@pierreo33 true
@@NikoSuave117 Hmmmmm
Was on Tiktok debating this and when they ran our of bullshit responses they said "History is written by the winners" and demanded I watched Europa: The last battle.
History isn't written by the winners but by the losers. Europa: The Last Battle is nothing more than Nazi propaganda and I have two links which debunk it under my about page if you are interested in using them.
@@nimdaqa
"History isn't written by the winners but by the losers"
How is that supposed to work?
When the war ended they literally asked people that never even visited germany how the life in germany was in the third Reich, its basically a fairytale made up by whoever has the most power.
@@imrengarotp3802
How was history actually written? The Wehrmacht officers made a number of demands for West German rearmament to begin. The demands were laid out in the Himmerod memorandum and included: all German soldiers convicted as war criminals would be released, the "defamation" of the German soldier, including those of the Waffen-SS, would have to cease, and "measures to transform both domestic and foreign public opinion" of the German military would need to be taken. Former German officers published memoirs and historical studies that contributed to the Myth of the Clean Wehrmacht. The chief architect of this body of work was Franz Halder. He worked for the Operational History (German) Section of the U.S. Army Historical Division and had exclusive access to the captured German war archives stored in the U.S. He supervised the work of other former German officers and wielded a great deal of influence. So in reality, the losers written history while the truth was denounced as "Communist Propaganda".
History isn't written by the victors nor the losers, history is written by the people who write it down.
And seeing as the Western democracies has this thing called "Freedom Of Speech", German commanders could very well control the narrative of the war.
Virgin TubChampion vs Chad TikTok User
How Germany could've won WW2
Step 1 invade Soviet union
Step 2 get pushed back to Berlin
Step 3 have German generals get captured by America
Step 4 have them write their memoirs
Step 5 phycological victory.
Interesting...
That’s a good joke. Imagine if that actually HAPPENED 🤣
Ahh, Lost Victories.
@@carmenpuddinpop8642 it did.
@@kingofthetigers I was joking and being sarcastic at the time I commented that lol
Nazis: *being 20 kms away from Moscow*
Stalin: I can't wait to burn the capital
Lel
pcandpsplayer idiot
@@teutonicorder6284 Russians did it with Napoleon
@@CallOn84 Considering Moscow wasn't even the capital of Russia at the time, nor was it even an important transport hub, I don't see how it even compares.
Seriously, look up the Russian empire and look at whats capital was back in 1812:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire
@@solarfreak1107 but he didnt say it was the capital
I mean, Stalin had lots of factories moved behind the Ural mountains, which are just as far from Moscow as Moscow was from the German border, so he obviously had losing Moscow as a perfectly viable option in his overall strategy.
Nice Guomindang picture
Thanks.
MERICA, FUCK YEA, COMIN TO SAVE THE MOTHERFUKIN DAY YEA
Euro: I drove for 3 hours,went to Belgium and Germany then came back for dinner
Americans: I drove for 3 hours and I'm STILL IN THE SAME STATE
Dude just lose your capital city, government and cultural center as well as the train hub connecting the north and southern fronts - it's fine
Quanmintang nationalist republic of china which today is taiwan is the real china
As a German here, we do not learn much about the actual battles or strategies of the war in school. At least I do not remember even though I was pretty good in history. What we talk about is the ideology and the motivation, the way the nazis have viewed and extreme right wing forces still view the world. The underlaying reason of all the great arguments you brought up is in my opinion the complete blind trust in hitler and the white German race as superior that has to win the war and the consequential overestimation of the own resources, men and power. And even if they would have “won” against the other world powers. They would never be in a position to keep that power over the occupied areas. Remind yourself, they did not declare war to one or two parties. They believed that a peaceful coexistence of different “races” of the planet cannot be possible and that there only be one. It was the “total war” they declared. It was has and always will be destined to fail. No matter the “if”.
😂
It’s amazing what we can accomplish by occupying a nation lmaooo
@@secretname4190 Elaborate.
Go back to /Pol/, moron 😊@@secretname4190
“Pride in one's own race-and that does not imply contempt for other races-is also a normal and healthy sentiment. I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilisations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own. They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilisation to which we belong. Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them.”
-The painter
Italy: Don’t worry guys I got this!
*Italy has left the game*
Chungus Among Us You’re point?
Switched teams woulda been better
Now This Is Epic: don’t worry I got this
*Nowthis69epic has banned originality*
It would have been better if
ITALY HAS BEEN KICKED
Kono Dio Da who are you???
> expels their own scientists
> the expelled scientists helps American nuclear programs
Germany: *wait that's illegal*
>be america
>take in enemy scientists germany didn’t deport to help conduct various experiments some would deem questionable
More like
Germany: :O
Their racial prejudice lost them the war.
@@dolarhyde met the descendants of some of those scientist. Alot of them still live in the vicinity of Kern County, CA.
@@ComradeHellas nah. Considering the Allies had racial prejudices themselves. What lost them the war was a moving juggernaut that was the Anglo "special alliance" of the UK & US, which was impossible to stop.
But what if they had the Bob Semple tank?
@Adolf Hitler hitler, listen you shoulda boosted fascism in the U.s. until they swapped ideologies and invited them into your axis faction
They would have a bob semple tank
Then the Nazis would already be colonizing the galaxy. Its well known that the Bob Semple tank has FTL technology.
God help us all.... luckily they never got their hands on that Deathstar Tech.
@@wrayday7149 What do you think the death star was inspired by
They could have absolutely won WWII. What if every soviet soldier has really bad luck and never hit a shot.
Yeah like he says, the Nazis totally could have won if the Red Army simply evaporated after Minsk and the Germans could march unopposed into all of Russia.
@@topphatt1312 so how the german thought barbarossa would look like
Germany didn't lose ! They merely failed to win !
Nice Reference
Hahahhaa😂😂
This comment was made 2 months before that video came out.
@@ChrisS-jd2us The Civil War Oversimplified videos came out on 1/2/2020, after the comment was posted
No oversimplified references
I don't understand how people think that Germany in WW1 couldn't have won but Germany in WW2 could have.
TheRealX1ras I think in both cases they could’ve won the world war one they had a much better chance
@@kingorange7739 Well, the facts say you're wrong.
Field Marshal how so?
@@kingorange7739 It's not how you "Think" or "Believe" Germany could have won. Potential History layed down proven fact that it couldnt. That beats your opinion.
Field Marshal really what hard fact says they couldn’t. Because newsflash there is no way to 100% prove that. So yes it is a matter of belief backed with evidence. I believe they could, u believe they can’t.
Just use *flex tape to fix Germany*
Nazi Germany: *loses WW2*
Stalin: I SAWED THIS COUNTRY IN HALF!!!!!!!!!
@@2lovejune i died
Epifer That’s a lot of damage
Thats alot of damage!!!!
@@2lovejune lmao literally!!!!
The ratte would have been the funniest hill for germany to die on.
It would also give us a kick ass museum post-War so we could see its destroyed ruins after an allied bomber destroyed it.
-it would be a literal hill-
The German army wouldn’t have had problems with fuel shortages had they only had more faith in Johann Schmidt’s special division and their Tesseract project.
*HAIL HYDRA*
Uhhh no... Schmidt would never have shared his tesseract with the Nazi anyway. Get your fact and history straight!
Synthetic fuel???
@YOAN SLAVEIKOV Marvel
@YOAN SLAVEIKOV MCU reference lol
Of course Russia wouldn't fall if they took Moscow! They will be at 99% capitulation you got to take Vladivostok as well for the remaining victory points
HOI4 player lul
What a pain
Not to mention the afk country during the peace deal!
I hate the fact that u have to take that city
I managed to beat Russia as fascist Poland as i had given Germany Dazing and then join the Greater Eastern Prosperity pact with Japan and all of china then capitulated them by 1941. After i went to war with the allies and took all of the Middle East and Africa and have no clue what to do now.
It is strange when a meme loving internet history nut is far more accurate and objective than the History Channel. Although that is not a high bar to measure against. Especially with their terrible noise to signal ratio.
A great video. It is great to see others coming to such a realization and see that I also watch the same source material that you shared.
Cannonfodder43
The problem with more "serious" sources is that they operate under the narrative that "the allies save the world" and you can not be a save the world properly if you slayed a wild pig istead of a dragon or a demon
It's not that hard to beat the History Channel when all they show is I don't know rick it looks fake or even better A L I E N S
Great Destroyer I’m going to guess off the top of my head the correct answer was either Waterloo or one of the English French battles pre renaissance.
@Gekke man2 So Neo-Nazi propaganda then?
Cannonfodder43 let’s be honest the history channel hasn’t been about history since 2007
Okay but what if Hitler used twitter
hed spend his days making "marvel is dead and woke!" posts
He'd be one of those raving anti-semetics ranting all day and writing essay long tweets on why the Jews are behind everything bad in the world.
But what if *snorts coke* flying submarines?
Anythings possible if you're too high to know what's going on.
Well they tried that with the V2. It didn't work, but they already had a bunch of them so they loaded them up with explosives and aimed them at Britain.
*Karl Donitz:* Hey this submarine thing is really working out for me
*Hitler:* What about... everything submarine?
If thats the case how about flying battleship
@@michaelarsaadyatma
Nah, the Bismarck and Tirpitz would turn on their master Germany and take over the world in one fell swoop.
It says a lot when TNO, a portrayal of an axis victory that tries to make an explanation beyond just “magic” (unlike MITHC for example), had to rewrite the history of the USSR back to the 1920s, significantly mess with the politics of every single other major country, and still had to stretch the remaining believability past the breaking point. It says more that even with all that, the post-victory timeline up to and including the entire playable duration of the mod is just germany taking a neverending series of L after L.
WWII was always inevitable. Even if Lindbergh was elected or if the veteran coup succeeded, the US would have wound up fighting at least Japan no matter what. Germany would have to cut Japanese ties to avoid war with the US, which would result in a U.S. victory anyway you slice it. Best case scenario for a Nazi victory: neutrality with England, US; sack Moscow and Balkanize the USSR; isolate from Japan and let the US sort them out; US enters Cold War with Nazi germany on par with the USSR because fascism opposes democracy and capitalism. The best absolute outcome for a German victory would result in war by the 50’s with the US. And this timeline likely won’t have nukes as there was no war necessitating it’s development, and really it would play similar to WWII since no one needed to advance their equipment or tactics in the 40’s.
Just use magic!
@@SCIFIguy64So a more realistic timeline would be the TWR?
@@SCIFIguy64fascism literally does not oppose capitalism.
@@Matt-lk5ng Democracy and capitalism. The biggest pillars of western civilization.
Maybe Germany could had won if they did not lose.
Yeah it's that simple
on jesus
genius
Not sure, you should also consider thing called "draw"
just take moscow loooooool dude just encircle it, is hitler stupid?
Mfs who think Germany could’ve won when Stalin summons 5 million more Russians who grew up eating dirt and punching rocks
Stalin himself admitted that without the US help, the Soviet Union would've gotten cooked
@@JSamadIf he really said it, he was wrong. The Soviet Union would probably have won even without the Allies help. (not dismissing the US contribution to victory but you guys really overplay it like America was the only reason the Allies won, It was not.)
@@JoaoVitor-dj1wl they would've fallen within 2 years at best. Lend-Lease was a key factor that won the war for the Soviets on the eastern front.
Napoleon: *Fails to conquer the world
Axis: *Also fails to conquer the world
Emu Empire: *,,Fine, i will do it myself...''*
Emu empire: *Travels back in time*
Emu empire:"Ok i need to find a good ally who will help conquer the world"
Emu empire: *Looks at the Mongolian empire* "Ah,perfect wait lemme get my papers"
*5 Seconds later*
Emu empire:"Where were we?"
*Mongolian empire falls*
Emu empire:"Aw crap"
Emu is a funny way to spell jew
Be warned that Australia is losing the war against the emu... they are pushing our lines... warn the world because if we lose the world will become a world for the emu
@Soup on a stick Your comment made my day :P
Dies at Gallipoli
what if Germany were sponsored by raid shadow legends?
"Mein Fuhrer. if ve move ze forces to ze south. ve might cut off these soviet divisions"
"Gud idea. Vut have zu heard of todays sponzor?"
"V-Vat?"
"Todays sponsor is Raid:Shadow Legends!"
Yes this would have secured all the funds for the war
in ww1 they should have used nordvpn
But the allies were also sponsored by Raid: Shadow Legends. The neutral nations were sponsored by Raid: Shadow Legends. The fucking MOON was sponsored by Raid: Shadow Legends.
@@18Hongo raid shadow legends was sponsored by raid shadow legends
Germany would have won if Stalin didnt abused soldier-duplication glitch
Ha!
This is the best comment of all time
The Germans used the same glitch but with crystal meth instead of soldiers
You're pfp
Salutes
I remember my old wehraboo self posting cringe in this comment section
Let it be known that I acknowledge your growth into a better, smarter person.
Who would win?
-Highly trained soilder capable of destroying anything in their path
Or
-Crystallized water
jethical b15 mo' tech mo' prollems
“Some chilly bois”
Krljavi Dzo How is this comment "neo-nazi"?
The Officials Channel muddy roads
Hahah! I have answer: How cold is Siberia?
There's a saying by military history visualized: "a plan that assumes a passive enemy is not a plan, its a fantasy"
I can apply this to alternate scenarios as most of you that makes alternative history always assumes one side is passive and will not do anything
That's why you not only plan for Full Frontal Invasion, but also Hearts and Mind operations while as Occupants. Once you use violence during HAM, shit will just get harder.
David Gwin Stalin making peace with the guys who burned down a majority of European Russia and led by a guy who publicly said and reaffirmed the systemic destruction of “judaeo Bolshevism” and Slavs in general? No, that’s why the Russians in general were very emphatic in fighting since it’s die fighting or die in Nazi prisons
David Gwin no I’m not a politician I’m a realist, you don’t just ignore the superpower calling for your extinction that you’ve been suspect of for years
“The peace talks are well recorded”, well, citation needed, if they’re so well recorded, I have a sneaky suspicion that Adolf “Aryan Superiority” Hitler however wasn’t very generous with the peace terms
Also the man himself, Stalin, was not a politician, so I mean, your comment is sinking more than the Japanese navy with all the holes, but I’m listening
David Gwin thinking further, I must ask when these peace talks were considered, by 1944 when you cite Normandy and 1943 even when you cite the Italian landings the soviets are already in the process of kicking Jerry back to Berlin, one of Zhukov’s most (in)famous quotes talks about ripping them (Germans) to shreds by winter of 1941, when Operation Barbarossa was beginning to break, what, you mean to tell me these peace talks began in September of 1941? Stalin, just shrugging and saying “damn that sucks guys better luck next time let’s bend over and spread our butt cheeks for the guys trying to genocide us” what Stalin did you hear about, because it’s not the Stalin that we all saw
David Gwin ok so this is all hearsay, citation needed was said before, but based on logic this is beyond stupid, the Soviet counterattacks have kicked fritz halfway across their gains and they’re showing no signs of slowing down, Kursk isn’t a turning point it’s just the last offensive action the Germans made and got shit on for it, decimating Army Group Centre, as if they weren’t get decimating already, for Stalin to sue for armistice goes against the entirety of reality so unless you can cite it, for once, I will call it bullshit
German Reich: Takes Moscow
Soviet Union:Well yes, but actually no
Wyatt Vollmer normie
@@kdk856 well yes but actually no
GamerkiddoCody well yes but actually yes
@@kdk856 uno no u card
GamerkiddoCody there is nothing such as a « no u » card, if u r a normie atleast try.
Here is something else to consider: even IF, which is a big "if", the Axis won, that victory would immediately collapse on itself.
1. Overextension of military forces to new territories. The Germans and Italians would face the same issues as the Roman Empire did when they too tried expanding as far as they did. That trouble being, it is HARD to put down rebellions on all sides of the border, even with modern transportation like the train.
2. The economic Golden Age will run out very fast. Even after beating France, the USSR and the UK, and outdoing the sanctions put on Germany, so much money would go into restoring literally everything they bombed. That has complications moving forward, as the veterans and civilians would miss out on good social services, souring the NSDAP's approval rating.
3. The irredentist goals of many minor Axis powers overlapped each other. Many of them were pissed off with losing land for "compromise" with other Axis powers. Romania is a good example, since they hate Hungary with a passion. Almost immediately they would "cannibalize" each other's territories.
4. Genocide is expensive and takes a long time. Germany simply cannot erase the Slavs, French, Jews and Gypsies quick enough before they start rebelling against them.
TL;DR: Germany would still lose, even AFTER defeating the Allies.
Yep fascism can only destroy it rarely creates. It can never be a stable long term government
The Soviet Union would still be strong even if the Germans achieved their objectives (reaching the A-A Line).
How many Soviet people lived east of the A-A Line during the Second World War?
Siberia (including the Urals): 30,489,000
Volga: 12,120,000
Central Asia: 16,624,000
Evacuated to the East during the war: 17,000,000-25,000,000
Total Population: 76,233,000-84,233,000
The Soviet Union would actually be reliant on Lend-Lease to continue the war effort unlike in OTL where it was able to rely on domestic production. This is because the Soviet Union would lose a substantial amount of resources and manpower which were located West of the A-A Line.
The Soviet Union had 1,343,307 soldiers in the Far East by December of 1941 but only transferred 344,676 soldiers from the Far East to the Eastern Front from 1941 to 1945. The number of forces in the Far East would continue to increase despite the transfers due to mobilization reaching 65 division-equivalents by mid-1942.
What other forces did the Soviet Union have at the start of the war? 100,945 soldiers in Central Asia, 101,563 soldiers in the Urals, and 118,711 soldiers in Siberia. I don't have any sources on how many soldiers the Soviet Union mobilized in these regions like I do for the Far East so this would have to do.
Assuming Operation Barbarossa ended in a success (which was impossible), they would have reached the A-A Line in three months which means the Soviet Union might not even have enough time to transfer any soldiers from the Far East to the Eastern Front (although in OTL, they only ever transferred a relatively small amount of the forces they had in those regions).
This means they would still have:
1,343,307 in the Far East (December of 1941)
100,945 in Central Asia (June of 1941)
101,563 in the Urals (June of 1941)
118,711 in Siberia (June of 1941)
Total Amount of Forces: 1,664,526 soldiers
This obviously does not include forces in Central Asia, the Urals, or in Siberia who were mobilized during the war nor does it include forces which would have retreated East in this scenario.
The Soviet Union also moved their government from Moscow to Kuibyshev in OTL which acted as the capital of the Soviet Union for a period of time during the war. Kuibyshev is East of the A-A Line which means the Soviet Union would still have its entire government intact.
In view of the unsuccessful line of defense in the Mozhaisk Raion, the State Defense Committee resolves to:
1. Have Comrade Molotov announce to foreign missions that they should evacuate to the city of Kuibyshev today (Comrade Kaganovich of the People’s Commissariat of Transportation should provide trains for the missions in a timely manner, and Comrade Beria of the People’s Commissar of Interior Affairs [NKVD] should organize their security).
2. Evacuate the Presidium of the Supreme Council along with the government and Vice-Chairman Comrade Molotov (Comrade Stalin is evacuating tomorrow or after, depending on the situation).
3. Immediately evacuate the organs of the People’s Commissariat of Defense and the People’s Commissariat of the Navy to Kuibyshev, and the main group of the General Staff to Arzamas.
4. In the event that enemy forces appear at the gates of Moscow, entrust Comrade Beria and Comrade Shcherbakov of the NKVD to carry out the demolition of enterprises, warehouses and institutions that are impossible to evacuate, and also the demolition of the electrical equipment of the metro (excluding the water supply system and the sewage system).
Chairman of the State Defense Committee I. Stalin
Nazi Germany would also have to keep a substantial amount of soldiers in newly occupied territory due to partisans who would likely recieve support from the Soviet Union and the United States.
@@YOSSARIAN313 It does create, it creates suffering.
@@nimdaqa I figured most of this. I was just trying to say that a hypothetical German victory would collapse on itself either way
@@NovikNikolovic I am just adding on to what you stated.
i mean, just boost fascism in the USA, like come on not that hard.
So, completely halt uboat attacks on American shipping, suppress the fact that they view the Americans as a mutts race, and convince an entire nation that they were wrong in the last war and should switch to the side that hates them?
@@gyiusnoname8422 it's a video game reference haha, far from serious
@@alexbattaglia8297 that burning I feel, is shame.
Gyius Noname A HoI4 reference, specifically.
@@gyiusnoname8422 yeah clearly, it was totally not just a videogame reference.
Just cause ya beat the Soviets on easy mode Hearts of Iron doesn’t mean you could’ve done it in real life
E.e points have been made
@Il Postino boi stfu, what kinda message are you even trying to convey? Or is your liberal ass "triggered" by my account name?
@@generalaccount6531 How are you gonna turn Russia into Fascist? They get such a resistance to changing PP that it always stops at 47%
Vladimir Lenin no but I am 😉
Il Postino only in the US do people think that liberalism is a leftist thing, spoiler alert, it isn’t
They could've won if they pulled an Italian and switched sides
"Meatballing"
Yeah switch sides to attack Japan with everyone else
Had an invasion and revolution*
@Lari Muzzarelli Wooosh
No u
"People love rooting for the underdog"
Not if they're Nazi Germany wtf
You have no fucking idea how loved the Nazis are now
In an ideal world. Unfortunately, the amount of people (mainly teenagers) who idolize the Reich is massive
Since nobody is gonna see this comment besides you.
I just want you to know i took a fat shit exactly 12 minutes ago, but stood on the toilet up until now because i forgot to get up after staying on the comments
@@lollllolll. Nice
@@lollllolll. 💀💀💀💀💀💀
"What if the Germans had atomic bombs?"
The explosion would have been cool when 40 P-51 Mustangs shot the bomber down
@@ruhri0411 “miles away from making a nuke”
Now I won’t say your wrong. But they did have their own Nuclear program 😬
@@NokotanFanCentral They attempted to make a nuclear reactor at one point, but I’m pretty sure some part of it broke so it didn’t work
@@bobjames994 uhhhhhh, wait I’m pretty sure your right. But the story I heard was because of French resistance or German resistance
@@ruhri0411
Yeah, the Plane carrying that Bomb would require a giant escort which the Germans had no chance of sparing while their Airforce is getting piledrived.
That Bomber would be a nice lightshow while it burns into the Channel as Mk14 Spitfires swarm the fucker.
@@ruhri0411
Not really. The V2 would likely not even get off the ground, considering their maximum payload is around 1000lbs and the lightest A-Bomb was somewhere around 20,000lbs.
An A-Bomb on a V2 wouldn't have a quarter of the power of Little Boy or Fat Man.
Germany should have put more money and time on making the ray gun it would have turn the tide for germany obviously
I mean all Germany had to do was contact the aliens, I mean come on man it's so obvious.
The ray gun was reserved for dealing with their zombie problem
No
weeb
MEIN WUNDERWAFFE DG-2
"Often trading lives for time"
I guess you can say that Russia was...
Stalin...
i am comedic
*Comedic laugh track plays in the background*
th-cam.com/video/ewoqPHaEo6I/w-d-xo.html
He didn't stall once he was angry.
So you have chosen death
*sheldon and Big Bang theory creators would like to know your location*
th-cam.com/video/mbeC2w-uIEU/w-d-xo.html
Germany could've won if they had microsoft excel
explain
unironically not the dumbest thought
Wut if they didn’t invade Russia
Que picture of a soldier holding the ussr flag over a Berlin building
IF GERMANY DIDN'T INVADE RUSSIA, RUSSIA WOULD STILL ATTACK THEN CHURCHILL AND THE WEST WOULD HAVE AN UNEASY ALLIANCE GERMANY , ITALY AND SPAIN!!!!!!!!
Invading Russia was one of Hitler's main goals of the war, so not invading Russia could mean no war at all. Maybe they would still take Poland and Czechoslovakia and just stop there. Germany doesn't have much of its own natural resources to mass produce things for war (they learned this the hard way in WWI), especially oil for fuel, so Hitler knew he needed to obtain more. The Caucasus region had massive oil fields and was controlled by Russia. Hitler's invasion of France was to try to eliminate potential opponents before invading Russia to make the war easier. Obviously that didn't work out.
@@jlhill17 THAT'S BULLSHIT
@@generalnapoleonbonaparte3186 Stalin is not Leon Trotsky. That Army purge was started because they are gungho about invading Europe.
@@yulusleonard985 STALIN'S PURGES WEAKENED THE RUSSIAN ARMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My hearts of Iron game disagrees with this video.
Lmaoo just spam some paratroopers. Easy
tsus and just declare on the Soviets after the Great Purges.
Play on civilian difficulty and by 1949 schnitzels for all
@@tsus7667 not after waking the tiger
Pedro Fernando Segovia Well In waking the tiger just get the US to do unholy alliance
German engineer slaps top of Panzer 3 “this thing can hold so much fuel” “but it wont”
> Germany gets nuked
Its ok guys, we got token amounts of oil
The Gernans had 4 month worth of fuel when Barbarossa began, no way they could ever win!!
Another big issue with the “just take Moscow” argument was that Nazi Germany’s win condition for the war in the east was exterminating, or at best, reducing to servitude, the people living there.
That’s doesn’t really give much incentive to surrender.
they couldn't even take moscow lol
Okay but THIS. Germany made it explicitly clear that their mission was to exterminate what they saw as an inferior people. Their IS no surrender. There's winning or death. Which means the Germans would have been bleeding men constantly, even had they taken it.
But they didnt know that, they just got invaded and then they defend themself without knowing what was coming (sorry for bad english)
@@nicolas-hg9fn initially many of the former countries conquered/absorbed by the Soviet Union did view the Germans as liberators. However resistance against Germany stiffened as news filtered back about their brutal occupation and how they treated prisoners.
@@billykorando ohhh i get it
> Historian: Nazi Germany could never have won the war
>Hearts of Iron IV Player : lol yes
**historian** seriously that is a title with absolutely no merit linked to it.
And wolfstien players to don’t forget
not everyone
Research all
Instantconstructon
Manpower 100000000000
Nuke 10000000000
in HOF even Czechoslovakia can conquer Europe. :-D
If Germany had just invented time travel. Travelled into the future and then brought back the future technology. Then they would have won
If youre smart enougth to imagine this idea then explain how you would carry it out.
Naaa he needed oil and men. He already had future weapons.
Who says they didn't? They had mobility focus tactics before everyone. They had the best cannons with the most advanced ammo. They had the best subs. They had assault rifles before everyone else, they fielded the first Jet Fighter, they were leaders in the production of synthetics. As far as I see it. Even if you went back, who would need a whole division of scientists and engineers to design something better.
They were designing shit back then on paper that most people today can't even design on computers. For example, the revolutionary STG44, the first assault rifle, even if you went back with the plans, you would have to wait for the stamping process to develop and the spot welding, fine machining, etc...
Ferdinand Porsche even design an Hybrid tank and the Mauss was drive by wire. Who has hybrid tanks?! No one!
@@pmp1337 you forgot to take your pills
@@pmp1337 if im not mistaken the first Assault rifle was russian
My grandfather was a soldier in WW2 and I was reading through his memoirs again recently. This video made me think of something he said in it when writing of VE Day. "Hindsight can always provide simplistic answers to complicated problems." He was specifically speaking of how some blamed the Allies for only accepting unconditional surrender and claiming that had they provided assurance of peace terms that the war may have ended sooner. From that line and some other things he said though, I can tell that my grandpa never put much stock into it, believing instead that there never is just one pivotal point that can explain everything that happened.
My dad works at Nintendo
People think that Germany could have won
This angered potential history who punished him severally
Severely
Oversimplified?
@@thetankgeneral5775 yes
No
Why am I seeing so many Deus Ex avatars?
They could have won if they got the Holy Grail at the end of The Last Crusade
A S And also if they didn't open the ark of the covenant in the raiders of the lost ark
Germany would have won if they had the support of the wwe champ JOHN CENA
@@rijobomjen4365 We're talking about Indiana Jones, not fake wrestling
@@seanbattersby7361 we are talking about wwe not fake indiana jones..lol
@@rijobomjen4365 WWE is more fake than Indiana Jones. During the filming of those movies, there were more real injuries than during whole history of wwe.
but what if Italy had a good army
Hahahahaha
They still would have lost. The Americans/Canadians liberating Italy (especially looming upwards from the south, like the Battle of Ortona, for example) had far better strategies like holing, which caught Italians off guard.
It was only about time until they surrendered. I think I'm missing a crucial point, but I don't want to give misinfo.
Raezer Italy had terrible high command, if they had better intel or high command they would of won in North Africa stopping allied and invasions of Sicily and Germany could of diverted their focus the further invasion and bombing of Britain or Russian factories, Italy outnumbered the British 30 to 1
At the swiz canal anyways
@@animeria5743 Well that's ONE of the reasons Italy turned on Mussolini. He and his leaders could not properly guide them to victory with their insufficient strategies and commanding. A good commanding team nontheless, I believe they probably couldn't have won North Africa, especially because of their ties with France. If the allies were winning Sicily and Calabria, then Italy thinning out operations to North Africa and South Italy could have left them vulnerable and be an irrational move. Additionally, I know America and Canada were better managed, thus why they won the south east fairly well.
But I guess you may be right too. My history is a little groggy, so correct me if I'm wrong.
re: "just build more shit", I highly recommend Williamson Murray's book "Strategy For Defeat". It's a book about Luftwaffe logistics, and it really hammers home how badly supplied Nazi Germany was even as early as 1937. The manufacturers were working under absurdly high expectations while constantly running low on raw materials even before the war.
Germany: Hey Japan you got this?
Japan: Actually I just bombed Pearl Harbor
Germany: *_Y O U W H A T ?_*
Japan: The Leeroy Jenkins of the Axis powers.
He thanked japan for doing that
Lol
America: You’ve yee’d your last haw
Balkan Axis: So Germany, what have you been doing?
Germany: I'm invading the Soviet Unio-
Balkan Axis: WTF!!!!
Bro the German trap music got me every time 😂
Ryan Unavailable for real does anyone know what it’s called?
Soviet*
@@PTron96 its German
@@PTron96 no
Germany made the best marches.
How Germany could have won
Tanks:∞
Fighters:∞
planes:∞
oil:∞
Gas:∞
Diesel:∞
Ships:∞
Ammo:∞
Everything:∞
@darth jar jar binks yes
the only commands they needed were “ale 1000000” and “manpower” ez pz
should’ve just used command ic and mass produce synthetic refineries
I mean everyone would win with that
@@MasterBeiberEverything That is the true meta
remember kids - fascism isn't just evil, it's also pathetic
Amen!
Cope
Fascism is neither evil nor pathetic. I am no fascist but simply dismissing the ideologies because of irrational hatred on people's part misses the chance to neutrally analyse it.
@@arbendit4348
I mean, you can analyze fascism objectively while also acknowledging it's a garbage ideology which leverages envy and insecurity and leads to awful and destructive policies
@@arbendit4348 wow nice youtube comment! I actually have MA and MSc degrees in History with a focus in the history of fascism; I have read Mein Kampf and Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism" and a great many secondary academic papers on the subject (John Drabble's work on the role of neo-nazism in American right wing insurgency in the 1960s is a real banger). My paper on post-war developments in the ideology and how Fascism transitioned from a European ideology to a pan-racial one based in America - "The Nationalist Internationale: George Lincoln Rockwell, the W.U.N.S and the Internationalistaion of Fascism 1945-1970" - is available to read in the library of the London School of Economics.
With that established: fascism is evil and pathetic.
The Germans lost because the Uno Reverse Card wasn't invented until 1971
See, that's where you're wrong. Because Stalin would have had a Wild-Draw-Four-Cards in reserve.
LAMO
But what if the allies played the Uno switch cards
Lmao just type annex_SOV
just spam "manpower"
or “research all”
You stole this comment sir
i'm a simple man, i see a good underrated comment, i steal it
@@RFIKILLER Ok at least youre honest. But I dont think 242 likes is underrated.
What if Germany use "Boost Popularity" button? Would they win?
Not unless they do the Co'up de ta button, and supply then with *a r t i l l e r y o n l y*
Ideology drift defense +500
@@radicallarrythemailman8269 Stability: *-90*
Hoi memes=best memes
@@arthurdaffos1490 have you played BICE, you murder the polish easily and blitzed thru France thru the maginot but *struggle to take Belgium with the belgians using ONLY THEIR DIVISIONS WITHOUT EXPENDETIONARY FORCES,LEND LEASE,NOR SUPPORT FROM THE ALLIES WITH THEIR 60 DIVISIONS AGAINTS GUDERIAN,HEINZ? YOU OBVIOUSLY NOT*
You know, I used to think that Germany could have won WW2, or at least preserve itself, if it never invaded USSR. That was until I learned that invading USSR was Hitler's goal from the start as he outlined it in Mein Kampf.
MK should really not be taken at face value, it was written 10 years before he got into power, 16 years before the war, and he didn't actually think he'd ever hold power at that time. He distanced himself from quite a few of the things he wrote in that book later on. It's a good way to know his ideas and state of mind at the time, but it really isn't a good way to understand his decisions after he was elected.
@@dwight3555 ok why did hitler then mass producet copies of mein kampf, and his multiple speeches he talked about how he would destroy communism, mein kampf is practicly hitlers diery, then he kinda didnt like it becasue it hurt his image but after consolidatingn power he went and produect many copies
Werhaboos right now:
"REEEEEEEE BUT MY TIGER TANK!"
"Hallo, panzer?"
"Panzer kaButt"
"Understandable, have a nice leibenstraum".
muh tiger tank
Found the werhaboo
B-but muh tiger invincible!
Muh 5 Shermans to kill 1 tiger
Who would win:
The entire German army
OR
Some slick black fluids
Who would win?
The German army
Or
Some guys with no food
who would win?
The German Army, in the beginning expertly trained and well supplied
or
Some cold bois with not enough food and weaponry
Who Would Win
Growing Germany
Vs
iNVaDinG iN THe wInTEr
Who'd win?
The strongest power in Europe, had the mightiest military, very dedicated experienced soldiers, and sophisticated war machine
Or
Starving farmers with garbage rod (Mosin Nagant)
@@PaperEater_ With the winter general...
If the Germans had launched Operation Sea Lion, the best thing for the Brits to do would be to wait for the invasion force to come ashore THEN send the Royal Naval and Air Force in to wipe out the invasion fleet (essentially the entire Kriegsmarine) thus stranding the German troops in hostile territory. The Luftwaffe wouldn't have been able to decisively defend their fleet against the Royal Navy with a determined RAF (still guided by radar stations) in the way. And with the Royal Navy in de facto control of the channel the Germans would not have been able to launch their own 'Dunkirk Rescue'.
The operation would have been an utter disaster for the Germans, as they quickly realised, giving up the whole idea after Bomber Command began to sink their rag tag invasion fleet.
I dont think this would have worked
Dunkirk was a success but in 1944 a lot of the british boys returned
@@JR7noir that only because the French troops pretty much sacrifice be themselves buying the British time to escape not only that but British civilians risked thier own live conducting the rescue with the navy. The Germans on the other hand would not have the same kind of support
@@deepfryingdory7154 yeah, the french did a lot in Dunkirk!
germany could have won if the allies had fucking botched literally every single step of the way
I mean they basically did in the first two years of the war right, Germany realistically shouldnt have even beaten France, at least not in the amount of time they did and they definitely shouldn't of gotten that far into the Soviet Union. But things kinda just kept going right for the krauts
@@darkdestroyerza2381 yeah thats the only way they can win and keep winning
We kinda were for a while.
Same with hearts of iron 4 you think you win when you take Moscow but then the capital moves to Vladivostok
Oof
They have to move capitals if one is taken. They can’t just be like “okay guys I know our capital is under foreign military occupation but let’s meet there anyway”
@@Casual_Lifestyle I know but trying to take it is a pain
oliver clark
Yeah but the Soviet Union usually capitulation for me like shortly after I take Stalingrad, Moscow, Leningrad
@@Casual_Lifestyle I usually attack them when they have 80+ war support
Even my favorite "What if Nazis Won WW2" alternate universe, Wolfenstein New Order, wasn't about the Nazis winning the war, it was about if the Nazis had a Space Wizard, because that's the only way they could have won
Yeah, wolfenstein works because quite simply the setting isn't meant to be realistic. It's meant to satirize the nazi ideology and portray its horrors, but mostly be a fun game about killing them.
Realistically the Allies would have gotten that Advanced Tech back in WW1!!!
They found the Tech in Yugoslavia/Serbia which is part of the Allies!
Even then they dont have complete control there's tons of resistance and they dont control africa if i remember right
Not space wizardy - Jewish supertech, from a secret order of techno-rabbis. So the Nazis can't even claim that their victory was the product of Aryan supremacy. Their entire world order is built on the stolen treasures of the "untermensch".
Man the non bias, custom memes, just great content man can't get enough
I agree
Aaren Lariosa
non-bias? He said no word about western powers and didn't bring up the fact that the US was in the war, which was so far away germany couldn't invade it, he could just have said that and ended the video, but made a 12 minute video.
Hey man idk about you but id rather have 12 minutes of quality then some words, and why would he? The main reason Germany lost was because of the soviet union no doubt and in this situation the US is irrelevant as their actions came later in the war and even then would not have been so successful without the eastern front pulling away troops from the west, so how exactly is not mentioning the western allies biased? Hes not praising anyone nor taking aside and its simple fact that Germany could not fight a war of attrition..... But hey watch the video as im just trying to explain it to someone who seems not to understand :)
Sure the allies did, but did it even matter with the massive industrial complexes east of urals, the allies gave the soviets second hand equipment and wasn't used as much compared to domesticated equipment
Food is something that lend lease did do well too which the soviets did need, but even without more soviets would've died at the end
Aaron Lariosa
There were actually some stuff that was used, like trucks to carry artillery, because russia had a shit ton of artillery. Boots were also lend leased with other stuff but I don't think they needed boots. I also think that if it was a 1 on 1 with germany against the soviets, for example if britain didn't get in the war along with the US, Germany had the possibility to win, or drag the war for years. If it was only against britain, they also could have won or dragged the war for years. With the US because its so far away it would be almost impossible to attack, most of the transports would probably not reach the US and supply lines would have been very easy to attack, not to mention the 2nd amenment which meant an invading force would be fighting partisans as well. But if I think about it, then germany couldnt win against the soviets, just because the size of the soviet union and because stalin wanted to continue the war, until everyone was dead in russia.
“Umm actually if Hitler rushed his industrial tree and built civilian factories in the Rhineland he would have been able spam divisions to send 2 tank divisions to Spain with Rommel so he could get the super heavy tank in 1939”
Whats the matter of no manpower, just spend 150 political power and its done.
To the oil just trade a civilian factory with more oil.
@Elias Rijken Good point
And finish the left side of the mobile warfare doctrine. Nukes are useless so it doesnt matter if america get a nuke first.
Remember... People die in wars.
And civilian factories only had so much oil... The oil must have been pretty much drained out of the civilian factories by 1943.
But still, we weren't Germans during the era of Nazi Germany, so we don't know how difficult it really was to get manpower and oil.
@@Anna-sz2hs You're missing the joke here pal
@@kenshinalbirunny6834 What's the joke?
If they had hit every shell, not missed one shot, one bomb, everything went right on target, and the Soviets were blind like Mr Magoo, they could've win.
Even then...
Even then, they would report Germany so yeah.
Banned for hacks
Germany would have won if they sent German troops with japanese to invade New Zeland and conquer it, becuase they could have use bob semple tanks and produce them at a massive scale.
edit: why are you thinking I am talking seriously!??
What about when New Zealand starts mass producing them first
@Ryan Do you really took that comment seriously? lol
@Ryan woooosh
I'm so confused at this comment I'm not going to even agree or disagree. So fucked up.
@@NitroCorn I know right
The specific events required for a German victory are so numerous that it could only be realized in a Hearts of Iron game set to Civilian
Germany would've won if they played that trap music during every battle.
What is the name tho
@@valdemarkleberg9282 it's in the description: Erika [Trap Remix]. Based on the Heer marching song of the same name.
Bad Bunny yeah yeah yeah
*Plays Chief Keef*
@@phoenixpoole7667 BoW bOW
They could have won if their tanks and ships all had plot armour
now that is a big brain move
Comrade Fox not exactly
@@KSPUnitedYT Stalin's siberian soldiers: hehe...
@@KSPUnitedYT Stalin's siberian soldiers: hehe...
@@KSPUnitedYT The Last Tiger be like:
Even after almost three years, it still makes me happy to see how much this video pissed off the Wehraboos.
Christian Bradley b-b-b-b-b-but what about {insert wonderwaffen} then surely!
@@denneledoe873 If the Germans had made flying, jet-powered Maus tanks, they would have won.
@@LordofAoD
Hey, a guy in the US Military wants to turn the M113 into an aircraft (Yes, I'm serious). So it might not be TOO retarded.
@@youraveragescotsman7119 Absolute madlad
But what if germany had 2 billion man power?