Is this the BEST Middle Earth book ever? | Quest of the Ringbearer FULL REVEAL & REVIEW
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The latest supplement for the Middle Earth strategy battle game, the Quest of the Ringbearer follows the joureny of Frodo baggins from his departure from the shire to the very crack of doom. The supplement deatures 27 scenarios, two narrative campaigns, four new profiles and six legendary legions and a fantasy fellowship guide to boot!~It's an amazing companion to explore the world of Middle Earth and the Lord of the Rings for the Warhammer system by Games Workshop.
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33:45 Profiles and Legendary Legions
1:11:00 Fantasy Fellowship
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I feel like playing through every scenario in this book followed by scouring of the shire is the epic series we needed
Hahahaha how good would that be!
Film it Josh!
Bagginses we wil get you outside the Shire first...
The purchase stands upon the edge of a knife, stray but a little and it will be basketed... to the ruin of wall-ets...
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
I was not ready for the “makin’ my way downtown” Mûmuk. I laughed so hard.
Muahahahahahaha
This is the first book outside the rules and armies lists, that I feel is a must buy.
Absolutely isssssssss
This is so cool! Im really glad you do LoTR and SW content instead of just Warhammer, its not something I see often and you do an extraordinary job on setting everything up and delivering it. The terrain and scenery is truly top notch and your channel has easily and very quickly become one of my top 10 favorite channels on youtube 😊
Thank you so much!! Yeah I love Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and 40k and all three will always be a staple of the channel :) :)
That fell beast wobbling in the background is giving me anxiety...
Don't I'm about any more of them.... NINE
Super video and really enjoyable. Thanks for taking the time to run through all of them. Loved the energy you had in describing all of them, and in particular the Gollum-voice for the Cirith Ungol Legion! Really well done. Thank you!!
Thanks Sidney! Wasnt my best Gollum but not bad
Wow great summary of this volume. Thank You!
Glad it was helpful!
What you were saying about the Rangers of Ithilien, I agree to an extent about it being boring with a shooting army. I get bored being on the receiving end of Tau shooting in 40K. The way I see though is that it is a cheap way to get into the game and be able to keep up with what someone with a larger collection might throw you off with. In the UK, it is £20 for Faramir, Madril and Damrod and £26 for 24 Rangers of Gondor. It's very affordable for most - especially if you were to compare it to 40K and AoS prices
That is very true! but with some better rules it could have been affordable and fun to play against haha.
Its also one of the legions/army lists that has all available units being sold by GW. The issues with these supplments is that alot of models are not currently available via GW.
That book looks like the best one yet! I love the fantasy fellowship, and some of those scenarios sounds amazing! I cant wait to watch you guys play it! Thanks for the video. I agree about rangers thoigh, 100% shooty armies should have a rule where they minus 1 to hit rolls imo, ive been broken before even getting within charging range before!
Great vid thanks pal!
The photographers missed an opportunity to have Legolas perched atop the snow at 7:39, instead of being buried up the the shins like everyone else.
He is higher than the others, they just tried to have his base rime still hidden, but I agree it soulcd have been more exaggerated. I would have taken him off the base for the shoot and put him on brass rod stilts.
Your elbow and those models on the table was making me quake :D
Awesome video as always, Lachie; this is an auto-preorder for me :)
Hahaha thanks man ;) no models were hurt in the making of this video
I don't play MESBG, but have watched a lot of your content recently and I'm loving it - great work! This book sounds like an incredible addition to the game, look forward to seeing some of the scenarios in future 👍
Awesome! Thank you! We'll be doing three awesome batreps from it very soon!
Mine is on the way, something to read during the lockdown. Great report Lachie.
Thanks bro!
Thank you Lachlan! Quest for the Ringbearer is easily my favourite sourcebook, Love the scenarios, the fellowship specific linked bonuses and recovery. Also the extra scenarios for the wacky fantasy fellowship was probably the big surprise!
Regarding Legions, my favourite is the fellowship but definitely cirith ungol and the Nazgul are honourable mentions... i personally would run the rangers with faramirs warband all osgiliath vets and maybe 50% rangers at most in other warbands...More like a defence of osgiliath to take part in all facets of play with my opponent having fun!
Keep up the great work!👌
Love the break down thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
thanks for the early review :))))
Any time!
I can't wait to use the linked death rules for the Gondor and Rohan books too, like what off Boromir survives and then makes it to the battle of helms deep, keeps his fellowship profile until reaching Gondor once again.
So many cool oppertunaties that could arise, may mes with balancing but it would be fun
I KNOW RIGHT!!!! So cool haha :)
Love the look of this book! the scenarios, hell yes love them! the fantasy fellowship, gimme I wanna play that right now! I have to agree with you on Lurtz' Legion, I was really hoping for something a bit more, The shield being an auto hit would have been real nice, especially given its a one off, compare that to the once per model ability of the Wraiths? possibly 9 chances to Channel transfix is much better than a str 4 throwing weapon with knockdown that could easily miss (3+ is good, but not compared to auto-cast) I really think it needed just a little extra something. Every other Legion I do love though! Thanks for breaking it down mate, very cool!
Can't wait to get this. I am new to SBG. I just bought box set and Rohan house. So I need to get my Pelendor Fields box set finished painted 1st. & Fellowship box. But really excited for this. Even more excited after watching your video!
Welcome aboard! Glad you enjoyed!
I love the sound of this supplement 😍 definitely gonna run Lurtz’s scouts and the black riders
Black riders are LYFE
I need this book. I loved the fantasy fellowship rules from back in the day
They were so good and these are even better!
Amazing! I hope some made-to-order releases follow for key models like mounted Ringwraiths :)
We need the mtd nazgul back forever, not just mto ;) can have the alternative FS sculpts as MTO
That would be cool!
Why have I never noticed your hair is so wild!
Only comes out for special occasions ;)
amazing review, thank you
No problem!
I do like to see an excited Lacchie! This looks like a fantastic book, thanks for the overview. I wonder if they're planning to do something similar for The Hobbit as well. Hope so. Thanks again!
I hope so! No problem dude!
Oooooh winters coming and that means Yule time will soon be here. Plenty of new Lotr stuff to go on a gift list this year. Need to get all the scenario books on my shelf.
So many great gems i nthe old books!
love the review. My book is coming to me! One question: is there any kind os special rule that helps the troll on balin's tomb? Is one of our favourite scenarios but almost every time we play it, the poor troll die awesome fast! I would like to see some help to his durability to get it time to shine like in the movie and put things hard for the fellowship.
I love the fact i can have a move 8 all scout army led by lurtz. If i ws to grasp or tweek id love to see.Lurtzs shield should be an auto hit(like you said) or able to recover it if he hits when throwing it on the charge in so long as it hits. Also a built fury wound save like bersekers for lurtz( he did get reved up from pulling a dagger from his leg and licked it, dirty) Or in this legion he can extend his find the halfings rule to each warband. Selecting where and when the appear in maelstroms.
Those are all phenomenal suggestions Gav!!
I love all of this, I just bought the nazgul and attack at weather top set. I would love to play through these scenarios!!!
i cant wait to see you do a custom fellowship series
That would be fun!
I paused the video to laugh when he said “our most beloved star” 😂
🤣🤣🤣
Great! You made me regret not having gotten it... Off to The storee!!
Hahaha yay!
I find this very interesting and it does sound fun! But really dislike that you can never "save" Boromir, everything else sound fun though. Can't wait for you to post videos about this :)
Yeah I'm fucking that off 100% I want to see Bozza at Helm's Deep haha
Given all my previous games with him, I can hardly wait to shout FOOL OF A GREENLEAF after each game :)
Thanks for the review Lachie! Skipped the things I didn't want to know in detail (scenario details + LL) but all the mechanics + Fantasy FS sound amazing.
Hopefully we're getting a lot of oop models making a return to the range as there's just too much goodness in this book alone!
And a redone plastic mini here & there :)
You and me both! I'm so happy with the book aye!
Man, I was hoping Lurtz's Scouts would have the 33% break point, and as much as I like the bonuses, I dunno if the Lurtz only buffs of Worthy Foe and Shield Yeet are enough to justify an all scout legion given how squishy they can be. He should have always been allowed a one off shield toss I reckon.
Yeah I agree :)
Oh... please is it possible to play through this fantasy fellowship on the channel? I would love to see this as I dont have that many hero models myself to play it... 🤗🤗🤗
Would love this 😍
Pls
Dont sleep on this 😆
Man it would be sooo cooooool
@Zorpazorp for shame, one such as yourself should know Gildor Inglorian is not a Wood Elf, but a Noldorin of the house of Finrod. ;)
Hahaha indeed, I was meaning from a game perspective, where his Noldorin exiles use the wood elf models :)
I'll allow it... Haha, great video mate, keep up the excellent work.
Any plans on dedicated painting videos for the Middle Earth Minis, could use some help
@@tommymurphy6753 Nah not much poainting mate, just projects tied to my main arcs, so maybe some Dol Amroth and Fell Beasts :)
Love these in depth reviews. Feel like this book as so much more flavor than Necromancer and Defense of the North.
Great video as usual.
Need to find this book
Good lord this is an oldy hahaha
@@Zorpazorp it is yet somehow I skipped this gem of a book. Thought for sure I would never buy into 2k worth of models and yet few years later here i am.
#addictedmesbg
The Amon-Hen picture at @42:28 doesn't look like the current version of the Fellowship (unless it's an older, oop one). New Fellowship coming maybe?
Old OOP sculpts mate :)
This version of the fellowship is called "the breaking of the fellowship" its long been OOP, but it was made to order not to long ago and luckily I got my greasey hands on a set.
Could you do a list of the best narrative scenarios across the game? Maybe you could contrast how fun they are vs how complicated it is to get the models for the scenario. I would like to run a few but not sure what to go for.
Full Rohan Fellowship. Merry as ring bearer, Eowyn as his back up. Theodred can still die. Eomer replace Aragorn, Grimbold has an axe (and no horse 😭) Elfhelm is quite shooty, Then plenty of hero's to chose from.
Sorry I'm rambling here, but you could take a battle company on the journey, or certain members anyway. This is gonna be fun haha
HOW GOOD IS THAT hahahahahaha
Very excited to get my hobbits and ruffians out for some games!
Yeah boyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Sweet looking board 👌😍
Thank you! Cheers!
My goodness Lachlan... Your hair!
Oh my. I will never financially recover from this.
Yup it's an auto buyyyyyyyyyyy
Can Lurtz use his shield-throwing rule against a mounted man? And this way dismount him and knock him prone?
Great review :)
He cannot! Mansized only :)
@Zorpazorp, i got this game because of your videos. Not many people play near me but i hope to get some people to play some scenarios. Wish this game wasn't so expensive bc i want to make all the armies. lol. love your videos.
That's amazing to hear mate! Welcome to the ebst hobby in the world! Just chip away and in 20 years you'll have every army like me hahaha
@@Zorpazorp In your opinion, where would be a good place to start for narrative play? should i start somewhere in the middle since i have the pelennor fields box? or should i start from the beginning in the Hobbit series and work up from there? Obviously getting the armies as i need them for the scenarios.
@@toejamkook I'd play through this book to be honest! Frodo leavintg the shire, it's a great small scale to begin with and they're good fun scnearios. Then your games get bigger as you go :)
Play all the senarions in your channel !!!
I would have liked rules for changing scenarios so you can do fantasy fellowships at different points levels, e.g. what if the high elf lords had gone to destroy the ring
That's a great idea! but I think you could easily house rule that!
help. i. can't. wait. three. days.
It's all here i nthe video anyway :D
Liked the intro! Trying hard not to watch the rest of the video before I get my own copy... Is it weird that I don't want to hear spoilers for a rulebook?
Not at all man! I was the same myself before this became my job :) Not everyone wants the goss early, but many like to ride the hype train! To each our own :)
In regards to the rangers legendary legion do you think a "points tax" could make it more interesting? For example if you take it you have to take 25% less points in a competitive setting (in a 400 points game they have to take 300 points, 1000 points would be 750 etc etc). It could be made themey by saying they are a light skirmishing force so are generally a smaller more elite force, hopefully it would limit them just blasting the other force off the board and need a little more brain power to outmanoeuvre the other player.
A good suggestion but I think just make the list better to start with. Although you could create an effective points tax by either changing the costs of units from their normal list, which they've never done, and will never do, or forcing them to take less shoot units like Frodo, Sam and Gollum.
But I honestly don't know how to fix them. They just need to not exist I'm afraid and have an Osgiliath themed legion instead.
Zorpazorp awesome video btw, think I’ll need to place an order and get this book, it’ll be a cool campaign to run after a battle companies one I’m in at the moment.
So has anyone compiled a list of all the models that you’d need to play through all of the scenarios? Asking as a player who’s never made the dive into MESBG, but is very interested in this book, but it seems like it’d get expensive...
So hyped for the black riders! I don't care if it's not going to podium, but if it's good enough to play an engaging game for both players consistently? Then sign me up! (to be fair I ordered the 9 named ringwraith models alongside this book anyway just to play the legion even if it sucked...)
Yeah me too mate, they're going to be a lot of fun!
Is it possible for Gandalf/your wizard to get an Elven cloak? I'm going to paint all my fellowship now and want the cloaks to all come out the same, so wondering if I should do a spare Gandalf with an EC just in case.
Nah he doesn't have the option in his profile :)
Hey, I’m trying to get into middle earth SBG and just bought the battle of the pellet or fields core set. I saw that all the unit profiles for the characters were in the booklet it came with. I was wondering if all units you buy come with their unit profile, or if there is some book you need to buy to get the profiles
That's jsut i nthat set mate, you need the profile books ''Armies of Lord of the Rings'' and '' Armies of the Hobbit''.
Endorsed by Isildur - must be good!
Hahahahaha why thank you
I want this soooo fkn baddd its sold out everywhere!!!!!!
Bombadil! Wooo!
He's a cheeky boy haha
Ironically I remember a lot of this content from a white dwarf like 7 years ago
Some of these rules, especially the ones for the game 'End of All Things' concerning the power of the Ring were in the old Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game Magazine ... so awesome to see that make it into this book! Those magazines were so great and how I built my collection.
Do you think they will do more books like these for the other Fellowship Members? I know the journey books sort of cover that but they also cover a lot of the Ring Bearer stuff and they still make this book so maybe?
Yeah I was excited too!
I doubt it to be honest man, those events are pretty well covered in Gondor at War and War in Rohan :)
@@Zorpazorp wow I've been out of the game for a while, I didn't even realise there was a Gondor at War, War in Rohan and Scouring of the Shire supplement!!! :O ... well my bank account is going to take a massive hit!
They middle earth team have been pumping it out bro!!
Can anyone tell me what warriors are needed to play all the scenarios in the quest of the ringbearer? I really want to get this book, but I'm not sure how much extra stuff I must buy.
Your witch king teetering in the bkg is making me nervous
You'll have to watch the whole video just to see when he falls..... ;)
Well, well, well, look what it is!
Also, I laughed so hard at the sudden Vanessa Carlton bit
Hahahahahaha yesssssssssssssssssssssss
I think the main thing I’m getting from this video is that you’re going to bin Riders of Theoden in favour of running Rangers of Ithilian...
*vomits*
I wonder if they could have balanced the Ithilien LL by reducing all rangers of Gondor to F3 instead of F4, with a rule that talks about how the Rangers of Ithilien, the LL depicting them as masters of the ambush, have set themselves up to attack from range and their skirmish strategy barely involved the anticipation of getting close enough to enemies to see the whites of their eyes.
I don't think they'd want to mess with profile but that is a very cool suggestion Jimmy!
Anybody know if Legolas still hits the balrog on a 2+ with his special ability? Or does he only hit on a 5+? Who’s ability takes priority I guess?
Judging by how hard it is to find anywhere, then yes :P
Hahah it has been popular!
@@Zorpazorp Yeah my wife and i found out about this book and just jumped into doing a fantasy fellowship
So Treebeard and Gwahir are options =D
Will you be playing the scenarios in this book as a campaign? This would be awesome to watch!
We're filming there next weekend!!
I used rangers at 600pts and it doesn't struggle there either. It's still ridiculously solid
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :/
Makin my way downtown... LMAO!
lolololol
Can u play this fantasy fellowship as normal army or its only for this campain purpose?
Only for the campaign :)
Are there any warg options for Cirith Ungol orc heroes?
All infantry bro!
Gildor Inglorion. I've wanted a reasonably priced miniature of him for ages. Any idea if he's coming back as a limited release or otherwise any time soon?
He would have been in a Made-to-order but it got delayed :)
@@Zorpazorp Oh, interesting! I guess I need to subscribe to Games Workshop's email newsletter again so that I don't miss that.
It seems a shame that when the Gandalf replacement comes back that it is not +1 attack instead of attacks 1 to 2. As that makes more combat orientated characters like Celeborn and Elrond not get as much of a power increase.
Yes I think that's intentional so you don't get a casting combat monster :)
I thought the profile for Haldir Marchwarden of Lothlorien would be here... any idea where that is? Thanks for the video 😃
Haldir's profile is in LOTR Armies, he only has a single profile :)
@@Zorpazorp Thanks man, didn't know if he had a separate one for the other mini. Thanks!
Only recently got this book and trying to get together enough models to do all the scenarios...shame you can't get the generic Black Riders or Dead Marsh Spectres or Barrow-Wights from GW anymore. Hoping they bring them back to avoid inflated ebay prices.
They all came back permanently last week :)
@@Zorpazorp excellent news. guess they are just temporary out of stock on GW UK site for now then
I have the three original campaign blue books for FOTR, TT, and ROTK. Sell me on Quest of the Ringbearer.
Those are some of my fav volumes! Quest is Frodo centric in one volume, has a beautifully linked campaign, rules for making fantast fellowships and new profiles and legions :)
In the Cirth Ungol LL can the orc captains and shaman take warg mounts like they normally do?
No wargs :)
Accidentally commented as my wife last night, she thought her account had been hacked 😅
Hahahahaha
I have no knowledge of this game, I play 40K. What do you need to play? Do the rules assume you have all the characters and terrain to match the scenario?
bummer about Boromir dying regardless :( :( :( but still cant wait for my book to arrive
Yeah personally I'd house rule that :D
@@Zorpazorp Was thinking the same, but where would you use him? Just add him to the 3 hunters scenarios?
@@ellesar500 I guess you could decide where he chooses to go haha
Going full Brian May with that barnet lad! 🥇
HELL YES hahaha, one of my childhood heroes
If a character has armor on and make it to helms deep do they get additional armor? That would be so nice haha
House rule whatever you want I say!
Zorpazorp haha Aragon with defense 7 😍 or just he gets his sword instead idk. Either way sounds fun
Do you think they'll ever bring the mounted Nazgul back into production? Kind of hard to play the Ford's of Bruined without them 😉.
God I hope thet bring them back. Always wanted them!!
Yeah hopefully!
@@Zorpazorp I've literally just bought the final Mounted Nazgul off Ebay to complete the 9 ... and GW have just announced they are bringing them back into production!! What are the chances!
At least I managed to get the Mounted Witch King ... doesn't look like they are bringing him back.
@@Lullaby454 GW were clearly waiting for you haha
Late to the party, but I just wish GW would release the old metal fellowship minis for this supplement.
They might come back
i just realised this is an hour :))))))
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Lachie knows how to talk
Is games workshop gonna produce minis with this? Example Lurtz, or will I have to hunt ebay?
Lurtz is available? The vast majority of the range is available?
I really hope they redo some of the Isengard leaders in plastic or at least finecast. Other than Saruman people who dislike metal (like me) have a hard time without a lot of conversion work. I’m still trying to figure out what to do for Isengard banners.
My next project is to work through the full set of scenarios and build there terrain and add any minis needed! 😁
That is an awesome goal bro!
@@Zorpazorp funny was looking through the table layouts and models used and think I've a years worth of hobby there! 😂
Thankfully there a lot of use between scenarios for some of the terrain.
Just need to watch for ideas of each terrain type. 🤔
@@stillunsure7630 Yeah the book covers quite a lot of terrain haha
@@Zorpazorp it crosses middle earth! 😂
Hopefully they do a 3 Hunters scenario set+
So I just listened to the warhammer community podcast about this book. I'm a HUGE Tolkien fan and tried to stay away from SBG to save myself... I dont think I can stay away any longer. This book looks incredible!!! Would this be a good book to start with?
Honestly think this can be the best book to start with, if you have any interest in the Narrative Scenarios. The game really shines here IMO and I would certainly recommend it. Seeing it follows the well known story, lots of smaller battles to play and just fun to be had overall :)
Yes I completely agree with Tharg!
Wonderful!! thank you all so much. I wouldn't be interested in matched play for now, the narrative stuff seems amazing!
Do you reckon GW will update lord of the rings again in future or is this edition like the best and thats it?
We'll definitely keep getting updates :)
Anyone else think that the next Forgeworld release will be Barliman, Harry Goatleaf and and all new Bill the Pony?
That would be sick!
@@Zorpazorp I want a Bill but finding the metal on eBay is nuts.
I understand the rangers legion being tad boring to play against but if you used ugluck or lurtz legion that speed could make things interesting
Yeah certain armies will enjoy better match ups against it :)
@@Zorpazorp keen to one day face the rangers with my scouts haha
Never knew Weird Al Yankovic was into Table top wargaming.
Awesome supplement. Too bad I can't find it 3 years later. Would be great if games workshop would re-release these.
And here I thouguht I'd get an early nights sleep...
Hahah you're welcome!
@@Zorpazorp Can the orc shaman and captain take wargs in Cirith Ungol? You didn't specify.
@@Unparadoxability No they cannot :)
They should make a Warhammer quest LOTR edition. But it should be like the 1995 version and not that silver tower trash
That would be fun!
Wow Im early
indeed!
Like if you were worried about the Witch King tipping over from the Seeing Seat.