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You should do a video or multiple videos on planned, future metro systems around the world e.g. the Dublin Metro (or MetroLink) in Ireland, hopefully opening in 2030ish.
Being from America, Stockholm was my first real experience with public transportation which was eye opening. Out of all of the cities I've visited I still rank Stockholm as one of my favorites, and the public transportation of the city is a significant factor for my fondness of this city ❤️
Living in Stockholm, I’ll say that while there are problems with the public transportation, mainly the longer distance commuter train (pendeltåg), it’s good enough to live without a car, unless you need one for work, like parenting.
As a guy that is from Norrköping South of Stockholm i Love taking the metro and the commuter and my grandma lived on the commuter line so not to say i sometimes hate it but i mostly love it
I'm a structural engineer based in Stockholm and currently working on the design of one of the new stations, great video and explanation of the system!
@@olliop is the old total defence priorities that the stations should be predesigned to easily convert to or connect to adjoining bomb shelters included in the designs or have the regional politicians neglected that duty once more?
i would have been cool if you had mentioned the other rail services that also exist in stockholm, like Saltsjöbanan, Lidingöbanan, Roslagsbanan, Nockebybanan, Djurgårdslinjen as well as Pendeltågen, all these lines and systems are a vital part of the rail Infrastructure in Stockholm and surrounding towns. There is also the Arlanda express(the airport highspeed link), as well as a commuter rail that connects the towns around lake Mälaren.
@@planespottingoliver7317 well it function as a cummuter rail, since most people that use it travels to and from Stockholm, but does it really matter what it's called it's a rail service.
If you factor all the above mentioned services in and combine it with the massive number of busses all of which use the same travel card (except Arlanda Express and Mälartåg) then it's a really incredible mass transit system.
He didn't do a Stockholm "public transport" video. Its about the Tunnelbana. Neither you've mentioned are part of tunnelbanan. Metro = Tunnelbana (in this case). alternativt kan du betala honom för att täcka hela stockholms lokaltrafik.
Stockholm really stands out in a Swedish context. Just the inner city bus line #4 in Stockholm has more daily riders than the entire Swedish rail network (excluding the Stockholm metro). As often is, we can thank past visionaries for our network. Without the metro system and if someone had suggested it today - it would have been considered insanity and way too expensive. "Stockholm is way to small for such a network" and those kinds of arguments. Now the metro IS Stockholm. It's the backbone of everything. A few years ago MTR (who operates the Stockholm metro) proposed to expand the network pretty much for free if they in return could do Hong Kong style settlements along the lines. That never happened though.
How many oassengers does li e 4 have. Apparently 5C in Copenhagen is the most busy bus route in the nordic countries with 25 million passengers yearly. It could be fun to see how close they sre to each other.
@@anderslarsen6009 Number vary but about 70,000 a day so ~ 25 million per year also. Has been planned to be converted (back) to a tram line for decades but nothing happens. The Stockholm metro has about 1 million rides per day.
We have plenty of NIMBYs saying this exact thing in Gothenburg, the second largest city in Sweden. Our tram network is great, but a major expansion of it is long overdue. Plus, when we do get major transit expansions, people freak out like nothing else. There’s a big commuter train tunnel in construction under the inner city right now and it has been targeted with several acts of sabotage while the narratives in the newspapers claim that the tunnel won’t be enough, that it’s a wasted effort and why aren’t we fixing the congested roads instead etc. Really frustrating. There was even a political party started _specifically_ to fight this project and it got double digit percentage of votes. Stockholm is so lucky to have such efficient transit already in place.
@@Sealedaway Worth to mention. The Gothenburg tram system runs along the streets within the central parts and mostly on separated tracks on the radials. Getting around in the central parts takes time if you go from one side to the other. Furthermore, almost all lines pass through the bottleneck Brunnsparken. I would keep the streetcars in the central parts. I would make the outer branches (to Angered, Bergsjön, Mölnlycke, Tynnered, Kungsten and Länsmansgården) completely separated (metro standard). Then I would connect these branches via tunnels or elevation through the central parts, giving these lines: 1: Bergsjön Gamlestaden Gullbergsvass Centrastationen Domkyrkan Haga Linneplatsen Frölunda Tynnered 2: Länsmansgården Centralstationen Gamla Ullevi Korsvägen Mölnlycke 3: Angered Gamlestaden Olskroken Stampen Gamla Ullevi Avenyn Haga Järntorget Masthugget Majorna Kungsladugård Sandarna Kungsten
It could be worth mentioning that the T-bana (Metro) and tvärbana (tram) is also, apart from buses, complemented with boat lines from some of the islands. Especially in some newly erected living areas close to the shore this has become a popular way to reach the city center.
I have ridden the stockholm metro a few times, most recently a few weeks ago while on vacation with my family. We only needed to go two stops from Slussen to T-Centralen so we could get to the intercity rail station. What was so amazing about it for me was as we descended onto the platform, one side was served by northbound red line and the other by northbound green line making transfers between these lines a breeze. Furthermore since both of the lines went to both of the next two stops we could choose either of the lines to get to where we were going. Seeing as they arrived at the exact same time to the platform we opted for the slightly emptier train. As we crossed bridges and went through tunnels we could look out the window and see the other train and all its passengers zooming along beside us which was literally such a weird but beautiful sight. The incredible almost constant frequency in the center of the city during evening rush hour and the masses of people using the metro was a pretty neat experience. Also: Stockholm is beautiful. I would love to see a video on the city ferries!
I live in Stockholm and pass by slussen to t-centralen every day omw to school. It's to this day still fun for me to watch the parallel train and the people in it, and the absolute time precision I imagine it would take to sunc them up like that is stunning. Only problem is that issues and train stops are quite frequent but I don't have much experience with other cities metros so I don't have anything to compare
Yeah, and there is also a big difference in what kind of ground we're talking about. Much of Stockholm sits right on the bedrock. While you can't really dig in the ground, because it is solid granite, you can blast your way through the rock, making very stable tunnels. Most of Stockholm's topography has been shaped by the help of dynamite. Once you realize this, you start to notice the rough, blasted rock surfaces everywhere in the city, not just under ground. As said in the video, most of the rail is actually above ground. These rails and stations were built during an era of massive urban expansion and wouldn't be as easy today as there isn't enough accessible space on the surface. The "Tvärbana" (light rail) mostly stretches through what used to be industrial areas, that were demolished and re-built as housing and commercial districts in the 90's and 00's. There are almost no such industrial zones, including port facilities, left in the city of Stockholm, but there are some in the greater metropolitan area. The green line through the central city was built the old way, by digging up the streets, laying down tunnel segments and covering it back up again. You can notice this by the fact that the green line more or less follows the street grid, and is usually just below street level.
I wonder if Stockholm will have the same problems with heat accumulation over time? Or was this problem known when the started work on the Stockholm subway and there's a fix of some sort in place there?
To understand the whole public transit system in Stockholm you also need to take into account the other train services (not just Tvärbanan). There is a system of "communter trains" (pendeltåg) that broadly mirrors the metro system but goes much further out and have longer distances between stations. With an interconnection at Västerhaninge the system takes you to Nynäshamn and the ferries to Gotland and Poland; an interconnection at Södertälje takes you further south west into Södermanland. There is an interface with Arlandabanan, the airport shuttle, and the regional trains to Uppsala. There are also a couple of separate, older systems. There is one tram system in Bromma, a remnant of the old tram system that was dismantled in the 1960s as Sweden started to drive on the right-hand side. To the north east there's Roslagsbanan, probably the oldest part of the system, bringing commuters in to the metro system at Tekniska högskolan. South east from Slussen there is Saltsjöbanan, which is an old line built to service the posher bathing establishment in what was then very rural areas. This line is technically a railway and not a regional transit system.
@@victorcapel2755 Depends on your definition. There are direct trains that look like the Stockholm regional trains (pendeltåg), but technically they're not, as you cross into another county. At least for a while the Uppsala train used to work like a regional Stockholm train. You paid extra to go across the county line. But in essence your're right, of course: No need to change train. Just get the right ticket and off you go.
Small update on the future metro projects for anyone interested: I think someone must have realised that having a yellow line running along the green one was a bit of a strange decision. It was recently decided that instead, yellow will become the colour of the aforementioned grey line once it opens.
Sort of dissapointed that you didn’t talk about the other rapid transit lines in Stockholm like Saltsjöbanan and Roslagsbanan, which are really unique and interesting in their own right. Hope to see a video discussing them as well!
I think the Tyne and Wear Metro is an interesting example of how to use new city-centre tunnels to link under-used heavy rail lines and turn them into a coherent light regional metro
@Joe Banks it's just to do with the frequency, or lack there of, parts of the network get a 15 minute service that goes to 30 on Sundays. I think it would be more of a regional rail (given the fact it also crosses 4 counties and 2 cities)
The main reason for the radial design to the east is that the bay is 30 metres deep and is home to a large sea port. That meant either tunnelling ~40 metres down or constructing an extremely tall bridge that still has to be reached from under ground. As mentioned, the part of the blue line that is under construction now will have the second deepest subway platform in the world, 100 metres below its entrance.
The new tunnel under Stockholm for the commuter trains has essentially made them a part of the tunnelbana network and extends it to the closest neighbouring cities to the north and south with 200km in length servicing 54 stations on 8 lines.
I haad to comment, Stockholmshjärta is an amazing youtuber and knowledgable person. As a swede I get real inspired by his informational and fun videos especially about the subway. Love him! So nice to see him here!!
I have lived in Stockholm for 11 years now and absolutely love the transit system here! One thing not mentioned in the video: many of the middle-aged trains (I think you called them the C20 model?) are christened with ordinary Swedish names. (For example, you can see "Elisa" at the 8:41 mark.) It's always a bit of a thrill to be able to board the train with my name on it when I am waiting for a ride. It has only happened three or four times in all the years I have been here! 😊
Yes, Vagn 2000 C20 comes with names! Fun fact; the C20 car with the number 2000 original name is Inkognito C20F, later renamed Elvira. It's a one-off prototype, looks almost like a normal C20 but is built with composite materials and has smooth stainless exterior panels. My favorite :)
@@lubrikwiklund Interesting! I definitely saw the Elvira train once or twice but had no idea. (I noticed it because a one-time dance instructor had that name and it made me think of her.) Not sure if I ever rode her, though.
If I'm not mistaken, a lot of the trains are named by kindergarden-kids. SL (the regional transit authority) reached out to kindergardens all over Stockholm to get suggestions for names from the kids.
I love the T-Banan! I've ridden it many times in the past as I used to live in Sweden. Having ridden metros in London, Washington D.C., San Francisco, Los Angeles and Helsinki, I find the Stockholm system to be the cleanest, most efficient and rider friendly I've ever seen.
Awesome video, I'm Swedish and found it really interesting! I love the fact that at 2:22 the sign above the elevator translates to "Reported broken. A repairman is on his way" :D
Oh, just a small detali. The tram shown at 4:44-4:50 i not Tvärbanan but Spårväg City that goes from the city center to an area with lots of museums and parks called Djurgården. It is an extension of the old Djurgårdslinjen from 1877. There's also a very old (but modernized) tramline in the western area called Nockebybanan or "Tolvan" from the beginning of the 1900:s. It meets up with Tvärbanan at Alvik.
one interesting advantage with the cave like stations is that because the bedrock is left (basically) exposed they stay nice and cool throughout the year, especially if you compare it to London where due to when it was built they used materials that absorb heat way too well making some stations unbearable in the summers especially nowadays.
I was so surprised when I visited London some years ago and I thought I was going to be able to escape the hot summer air for a few moments by taking the metro and instead got blasted with even hotter air the further down I went!
Hi and thanks for the video! I would also add info about the suburban trains (Pendeltog, designated J) which recently added a HUGE project with a new tunnel under the city center culminating in the amazing Odenplan J station, which alleviates the train traffic from T-Centralen and the congested bottleneck of Gamla Stan...:)
Love these videos--visiting Stockholm in a few weeks and can't wait to see this system. I'd love to see a video on the Bilbao Metro in Spain as well--growing rapidly in a relatively small city.
At 5:30, there is a tiny little problem. The blue line that extends on the north side is supposed to be the blue line located further up, not the one below. Additionally, the extended line is supposed to be more of a upside-down and mirrored J shape, with the end pointing towards the west. It's going to "Barkarbys Handelsplats" located west of Akalla, the current end station, and then a little towards to the south to arrive at "Barkarby Station". Otherwise, amazing video and helped me better understand the place I live in, I even got to see the station where I live!
I think it would be cool if you talked about Riga, its a developing city with quite alot of public transport projects. Anways love your vids keep up the good work!
Ive been in Riga for the last 2 months for work, and im sorry to say but I dont think there is anything interesting about the public transport there in my opinion.
Nice to see something positive about the Tunnelbanan for once. I have to say, having MTR take over from Connex was a great step up at least. Though you missed mentioning the ghost train!
The Blue Line up Northwest, you've actually coloured in the wrong blue branch. The Northern of the two, currently terminating at Akalla, will "swing around" to reach Barkarbystaden and Barkarby Station. You've highlighted the Southern of the two branches.
I love that the older stock is still in service. Perfectly usable stock should be used until it is no longer usable. That frees up funds to use for the extensions in service you talk about.
Nice video! The blue line extension to Nacka was planned back in the 1970s, but was scrapped then. Which is why it ended at Kungsträdgården and why Kungsträdgården is so deep down (it prepares the tunnel going under the water that is rather deep).
I heard the plan while building was to go from Kungsträdgården to Stadion and Mörby, for later extension to Täby. That would be the reason the platforms are longer to support 10 cars from stadion and beyond. On the other hand, the end station (slut station in Swedish) Akalla was meant to have one more station, and the tunnels was already built good part of the way to Bög. This is a thousand year old Viking village with this name, but the word for other reasons also turned up as a bad slang word for homosexual man, and the politicians in the 70s couldn’t handle such a name as a slut-station. True story.
@@macjonte Lol, quite funny story, but sadly not completly true. The main reason that the Akalla-line was never extended further is that the planned neighbourhood, Hansta, never got built. The million project was winding down and there wasn't really a need for that much new housing back then. I mean, you could still get apartments easy in Stockholm when I was in my teens in the 90s, Stockholm inner city population didn't reach it's 1960s levels again until a year or two before the break of the millenium. Hell, my parents was able to get an inner city apartment by S.t Eriksplan as newly arrived immigrants on teachers salary in the early 80s. That would be utterly impossible today.
@@victorcapel2755 Seems like the beginning of the 90s was a great time. The sovjet union fell apart, houses for everyone and interest rate lowered from crazy high levels. :) I'm sure there were other reasons why they didn't build Bög as well, and yours seem like a more political correct one we can use for the history books. ;)
@@macjonte Well, depends on what part of the early 90s we're talking about. 91-92 wasn't good at all with the economic downturn (as a kid with 2 public sector worker parents, I felt that since the public sector got cut down hard). It got better a few years in in some ways. For people looking for apartments, it was decent up until 97-98, then the fact that we didn't build almost anything for 30 years became obvious. But Bögs gård is still called Bögs gård, so there's still a chance to get a subway named after it. We have to petition the county council.
Some minor British systems (Tyne & Wear Metro, Glasgow Subway, Manchester Metrolink & West Midlands Metro) would be interesting to see - we've (rightly) heard a lot about London's transport but the rest of the UK can also do this well!
If only we had local powers to raise capital and fund proper London style transport systems around the rest of England and not have to rely on the Treasury to say yes (or more accurately, no lol). Places like Manchester and especially Birmingham ABSOLUTELY need an Underground network.
@@TalesOfWar Agreed! The closest we ever got was a stub tunnel under central Manchester that we never got as part of the ill-fated Picc-Vic scheme, and it can be soooo much better than that, but alas, trams it is so far. Not that I hate trams, but quite a lot of them (Birmingham and Manchester in particular) are on old railway alignments that better suit the suburban metro style of transport, I think (similar to outer fringes of Suburban London (Zone 4/5/6) tube lines)
@@chrisoddy8744 The Metrolink really needs orbital rings to join it up as it fans out. It's great if you want to go IN to Manchester, not to great if you want to go Oldham from Bury or Rochdale (also why is there no line to Bolton?). And yep, most of it was built on lines closed under the Beeching cuts. This is why the platform height is so high compared to most tram networks. It's basically heavy rail infrastructure with light rail rolling stock.
@@TalesOfWar I believe they trialled some original DLR stock (with OHLE instead of 3rd Rail) on what was then still the Fallowfield Loop during the planning stages, which would have been interesting to see used as the concept going forward. Maybe a light rail DLR or T&WM style would be preferable as a concept for use in other UK cities compared to a full scale Underground line?
@@chrisoddy8744 Given the rate Manchester especially is growing, I think a full blown metro system is needed, or will be within the next 20 years or so. It's the fastest growing urban centre in Europe and has been for years. The population is expected to double in the next decade in the city itself with all the new housing developments. The transport system around here is already crap, largely down to stingy bus operators but that will hopefully change for the better now we've got public control of it again. It'll allow for a London style system where it's all one operator, all one ticketing system etc. From the back of this we could potentially get some proper heavy infrastructure investments to support this growing place. In an ideal world the whole east to west belt from Liverpool through Manchester, Leeds and down to Sheffield would be a super hub. Kind of how Greater London is so expansive and connected by a well integrated transport network.
Wish you would have brought up the commuter rail as well. It connects some of the portions of Stockholm that don't have metros and in 2017 they built a new central hub (Stockholm City Station) beneath the main railway station to make connections easier. It's also pretty funny how at 35-40 metres below ground level, the new station is actually further down than all the metro lines at T-Centralen!
@@sb8821 that wouldnt work in stockholm since the mälaren lake and the stockholm archipelago makes any circumferential line extremely expensive or very small that would not help alot of citizens
This actually makes me miss living in Stockholm. It was so easy to get around! I think that i actually managed to visit every single station in the five years I lived there, simply because I could!
You should do a video on Cologne in Germany. It has a very extensive transit system that includes trams, S-Bahn, "U-Bahn" and buses, which connect the different neighbourhoods/"Veedel" of Cologne. On another note, the Rhein-Ruhr transit system (which includes the big metropolitan cities of Dusseldorf, Cologne, Essen, Duisburg, Dortmund, Wuppertal) is perhaps the largest conglomeration of independent metropolitan transit systems, making it is easier for people to transfer between these cities in close proximity. Students in this German state (NRW), for example, have access to ALL the public transport in the state of NRW of course including all these cities.
As someone from said Ruhrgebiet, let me tell you, our transit system is not that great. It's 'ok', but frequencies are low, and constant cost-cutting measures are making the experience worse and worse, discouraging more and more people from using it. Surprisingly, car traffic in the Ruhrgebiet also gets worse and worse every year. Who could have known? The current infrastructure was mostly planned during the 60s and 70s, and that was not a great time for transit. In Duisburg for example, most of the extensive tram network was torn up in the 50s and none has been rebuilt since. Also, there are more than ten different operators spread over the Ruhrgebiet, each with it's own mind, bureaucracy and lobbying power to local politics, and that number doesn't include the Deutsche Bahn, which runs the S-Bahn, RB (Regionalbahn), and RE (Regionalexpress) services. There is the VRR (Verkehrsverbund Rhein-Ruhr) trying to organize things region-wide, but the situation is not ideal to say the least. The Ruhrgebiet has incredible potential to have outstanding transit, with more than five million people living there, but there is a lot that needs to improve for that to be the case.
@@stiggel Yes I totally agree! I also lived in this area, so I know the downfall of the system haha. Yes, it's totally complicated in this area haha. Definitely has a lot of upgrading to do, but there is potential as you said.
11:14 That’s interesting, I notice the kids playing to the right of the clip after. It doesn’t feel like a station. It feels like a relaxed hangout area. Other transport systems should maybe take note of this.
Nice video. I worked in 5 of the new stations that is in making as we speak. (barkarby, gullmarsplan, Hammarby, nacka, and one in the city.) I was driving the 18 wheeler that went down the tunnels to get the rocks out. Its weird to think when you're down in these dark wet tunnels that this is gonna be a station very soon.
You really should check out Helsinki, Finland. It has the northernmost metro line in the world and an extensive tram network with big expansions especially to the trams, including a bridge exclusively to trams and walking/cycling, that will be the longest bridge in Finland. The metro line has some similarities with the one in Stockholm with it being designed at roughly the same time and using blasted stations and overground stations. It also has some interesting stories about attempts to automate the network. I'd be happy to provide some pictures and answers to any questions.
I live in Helsinki and the metro network here is ridiculous compare to the Stockholm T Ban. There´s basicaly only one line which divides in two lines at the east end of the line for 3 or 4 stations. And here in Helsinki the metro is full of drunk/noisy/smelly and junky people. Especialy Sörnainen station the "drug" station. Stockholm is definately well above Helsinki in many ways since Stockhom is a real european city when Helsinki is trying desperately to be something european or international.
Would love to see you do one on the Oslo metro (T-Bane) too! It has a pretty fascinating history starting with a west and an east side that wasn't connected, then eventually connected at the same station for transit, before being totally connected with trains running from west to east. It is also fascinating how long they ran old rolling stock on one of the lines because they were the only trains that could make it up the hill and use the stations before it was fixed to be compatible with the larger system.
I enjoyed the video! What I would find interesting to be covered would be the Gothenburg tram. It's interesting because of its history (starting out as a Tunnelbana project but ending up as a tram/light rail hybrid; there's exactly 1 station underground (Namely Hammarkullen) featuring the longest escalator in Sweden), because of it's density and because it's the only tram system in Sweden that has survived past "Dagen H", the day Sweden switched from driving on the left-hand side of the road to the right (which was 3 September 1967).
As many others have pointed out it would be fun to see a video done on the Stockholm commuter trains / Pendeltåg, deaignated J instead of T. With them, the metro and all the trams, Stockholm really is a nest of rails ^^ One would think watching the video that there are only 2 ways by railroad to travel. The Pendeltåg stretches through the entire city just like the Metro and even longer.
Would be cool if the light rail lines where added to the map, it covers a ton of the north eastern parts of Stockholm that is often forgotten. Called Roslagsbanan its based on old train lines for goods from Roslagen north of the city. Today it connects at Tekniska Högskolan, "Technical University" on the Red line
I've been on a binge with your videos lately, they're really great! I love the effort and detail you put into them! I would like to see a Manchester Metrolink video soon, I could even get footage for it 🤔
4:46 is another tram line. Not Tvärbanan. Fairly short, from central Stockholm to the island Djurgården. Fun fact: It was called the NK-express by dislikers because it initially connected a rich people area with a fancy store named NK a few 100 meters away, and was expensive to build.
I was in Denmark a few weeks ago, and their metro system is quite impressive! And one day, me and my best friend are going to Stockholm, and after everything i've seen, this metro system looks exciting.
I have lived in Stockholm all my life and I find the metro system to generally be very good. You can get everywhere you want in a reasonable timeframe. It is very well complemented by the different light rails, busses and the quite extensive commuter rail
There's no denying that there's a lot of positives to point out with the system in Stockholm, but as someone who uses it every day, it's also worth pointing out some of the negatives. The first is definitely price. There has been constant price hikes the last few years which is understandable, but it has also come at the same time as MTR (operators of the rail system) completely plastering both the trains, platforms and stations with advertisements. It covers windows on transportation, blocks a large portion of the art on the "art gallery" platforms and completely covers stations at times. The working conditions have also drastically declined, leading to a heavy shortage of employees, leading to cancellations and delays multiple times a week. It's even worse for the station/cleaning staff, leaving a lot of the stations very run down and unkept. All of this makes it hard to swallow higher prices. There are very few ticket checks onboard. This means that people frequently run up behind you and use your ticket to ride for free, and even people blatantly climbing over the glass opening doors Infront of employees, as they can't do anything to stop them. This goes hand in hand with security which has increased but is still lackluster. I think the actual system in place is great. I definitely don't have any confidence in MTR and the future planning though. It's fairly clear that the populace and commuters aren't at the forefront of the company's priorities.
You made a few mistakes. First of all, the blue line extension in the northwest is on the other branch. Second, the green line extension is not a new line, it's just green. Third, it's not the gray line, it's the yellow line. And you forgot to mention Lidingöbanan, Roslagsbanan, Saltsjöbanan, Pendeltåg, Spårväg 7 and Nockebybanan. Great video!
Some incorrect things: The new blue northern extension will go from line 11, Akalla, not 10, Hjulsta. The placing of the seats in the c20 trains is actually just simple groups of 4's. The new c25 trains, that arrived together with the new c30, is just old c20 trains with the new c30 seatings. But great video still!
I grew up in Stockholm and I guess I always took tunnelbanan for granted and never liked it much. As an adult, I much prefer to use the extensive bus system instead of tunnelbanan - because, you know, daylight - but I can see that it is very practical and why people like it. There are three connecting tram lines that you didn't mention, which you'll have to include in your next video: Lidingöbanan, Roslagsbanan and Nockebybanan. I grew up near a station on Nockebybanan, or as we call it: Tolvan (Because it has the line number twelve).
It'd be amazing to see a video on the Athens metro, it is seldom talked about and it'd be a nice look at how a city is forces to alter itself in view of an upcoming big event (the 2004 Olympics) and with the archaelogical finds presenting such a problem. Line 4 has also started being built so it's a great time to talk about it
This was a really good explanation of the Tunnelbana in Stockholm, but I do feel that it's worth mentioning that there is another relevant system, the Pendeltåg which serves a similiar purpose but with fewer stations and a longer reach.
We could learn a lot in Toronto from Stockholm and the SJ. They punch well above their weight with the different modes of rail transport. All for a city of less than 1.5 million.
The c20 remind me of the new tube for London because that also will have an unusual bogie layout. I also think they have aged well as they still look modern. The c30 look like a neater version of the s stock aesthetically
12:51 I've stayed multiple times on that white boat (closest one), it's a floating hotel called Gustaf af klint. It never goes anywhere but the bobbing is nice. I miss staying there.
Thanks for this interesting video. Interesting with all the new branches being planned. I live in Stockholm myself and sadly I must point out that currently there are some major problems with the system. For one, there has been major problems with the escalators for years. They break down all the time and it takes months, even years before they are fixed. Especially the commuter trains ("Pendeltågen") - which meet up with the other lines at a huge underground station below the subway ("Tunnelbanan") at T-Centralen - has been plagued by this and it's a looong way to walk up from the lowest sections. Also during rush hours there are often a lot of disturbances, it seems to me the traffic is not adequately dense so we get overcrowded platforms and cars all the time. But when all runs smoothly it's nice!
great video! sometimes you'd talk about tunnelbanan and you'd show footage of tvärbanan etc but very good video overall, even me as a Swedish person learnt some new details about the expansion of the subway, amongst other things. But yes, as people have mentioned, going into Tvärbanan sorta means you should probably have talked about Pendeln, Nockebybanan, Saltsjöbanan etc
And then the role that buses and boats fill on top of that, to make it into one of the most extensive and highly effective public transport systems in the world.
Love the cave stations. Lyon, France might be interesting if you haven’t covered. They have a steep rail line I think you know plus rail and air connections. Interesting geography, too. Cheers thanks
One interesting feature I noticed is that the T-bana runs on the left, a relic of the original driving habit of Sweden before Dagen H in 1967. Mainline railways in many countries have longer and more convuluted histories so the running directions vary, but metros tend to be more modern and align with the driving direction of the city they are in. The Stockholm metro is a notable exception because the change of driving direction occurred after the first lines were opened, a rare occurrence for a developed economy. As a sidenote, the eastern section of MTR Tuen Ma Line in Hong Kong runs on the right for a practical reason - to allow southbound (downtown direction) cross-platform interchange at Tai Wai Station.
Even in the station corridors you’re supposed to WALK on the left. Swedes never seem to have adapted to the idea that they’re supposed to be on the right since 1967…
It would be great if you could make a video about Manchester’s Metrolink. It is a really cool transit system, getting people around the city and from the suburbs.
hey, I love your vids!!! you should talk about Milan next, according to the mayor, it will be the 5th city in Europe in terms of metro systems when line 4 will open. you should talk about the Milan public transport system in general, I think it should be interesting how it all integrates together.
Munich would be a great video. It has an interesting network layout including branches and cross platform changes. S bahn second tunnel construction is underway.
Stockholm seems to have the base infrastructure of a really comprehensive system. It's not abnormal to have lower frequency at the extremities of a system, if you go out to Underground stations in Essex like at Debden Green for example you'll not get a 2-6 minute service there most of the time because outside of commuter peak hours there just isn't the levels of ridership to justify it, on the occasion I hopped on there there was only myself and my colleagues using the station.
I believe you incorrectly showed a picture from a different tram line when talking about Tvärbanan. The image at 4:48 shows the T-Centralen stop on the Spårväg City line, which is not part of Tvärbanan. Stockholm has four separate tram lines: Lidingöbanan, Tvärbanan and Nockebybanan (which are partly conjoined) and then lastly Spårväg City which only runs along 11 stops in the city center. Otherwise, great and informative vid!
I love Stockholm! Have lived there pre Covid for a couple of months. The public transportation is quite good. It's running quite frequently, though in rush hour, it can be extremely packed and sometimes there is a traffic jam of metros. But this was pre covid, perhaps nowadays it's ok. I love it that you can use your subscription for the ferries. I think the railway services to other cities in Sweden is a bit poor, quite often I had delays and the frequency is meh.
Just need to correct a small mistake. It’s the “east” section of the blue line that is being extended two stations, to ikea and to the commuter rail station Barkarby. great video. :)
as an stockholmhjärta fan this video seem'd appropriated. as i live in stockholm all my life one tend take this for granted. i dont fancy the new trains. fewer seats and the sided has an strange angle that makes it easy to hit your backhead as you are about to sit down. that literly happend first time i traveld with it. never happend in the older straight walled trains... boxy design has it reasons.. not only good lookin but practical too.
There are only three cities in the US that are larger than Stockholm; New York, Los Angeles and Chicago. You can’t look at the numbers of the city itself when it comes to Stockholm as the urban area consists of several connected municipalities that connected in size is somewhere in between Chicago and Huston. The metro system runs through several of these municipalities and not just Stockholm city.
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You should do a video or multiple videos on planned, future metro systems around the world e.g. the Dublin Metro (or MetroLink) in Ireland, hopefully opening in 2030ish.
Can you do an explains video about the Tram system in Antwerp, Belgium? On of the oldest still running tram systems in the world
@@FindecanorNotGmail It's nearly starting to feel like he's afraid of our little country
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I tought I had seen it before lol
@@imafiskparasit lol I got super excited when I saw the Berlin video listed yesterday, and then realised I watched it before
Being from America, Stockholm was my first real experience with public transportation which was eye opening. Out of all of the cities I've visited I still rank Stockholm as one of my favorites, and the public transportation of the city is a significant factor for my fondness of this city ❤️
Living in Stockholm, I’ll say that while there are problems with the public transportation, mainly the longer distance commuter train (pendeltåg), it’s good enough to live without a car, unless you need one for work, like parenting.
As a guy that is from Norrköping South of Stockholm i Love taking the metro and the commuter and my grandma lived on the commuter line so not to say i sometimes hate it but i mostly love it
Really. Have you been to Dubai, you must next destination is Stockholm after Dxb. Just for comparison purposes
Welcome to sweden my dude 🇸🇪
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I'm a structural engineer based in Stockholm and currently working on the design of one of the new stations, great video and explanation of the system!
Thank you!
As a Stockholm-resider I have to ask what: is the design going to be? Are you making beautiful stations or are they cheaping out on the prettiness?
@@olliop Ok I see. Do you think the project is being handled well?
Vilken station jobbar du med?
@@olliop is the old total defence priorities that the stations should be predesigned to easily convert to or connect to adjoining bomb shelters included in the designs or have the regional politicians neglected that duty once more?
i would have been cool if you had mentioned the other rail services that also exist in stockholm, like Saltsjöbanan, Lidingöbanan, Roslagsbanan, Nockebybanan, Djurgårdslinjen as well as Pendeltågen, all these lines and systems are a vital part of the rail Infrastructure in Stockholm and surrounding towns.
There is also the Arlanda express(the airport highspeed link), as well as a commuter rail that connects the towns around lake Mälaren.
Mälartåg is more of a regional train than a commuter rail I would say
@@planespottingoliver7317 well it function as a cummuter rail, since most people that use it travels to and from Stockholm, but does it really matter what it's called it's a rail service.
I agree, was about to comment but wanted to check if anyone else said something first
If you factor all the above mentioned services in and combine it with the massive number of busses all of which use the same travel card (except Arlanda Express and Mälartåg) then it's a really incredible mass transit system.
He didn't do a Stockholm "public transport" video. Its about the Tunnelbana. Neither you've mentioned are part of tunnelbanan. Metro = Tunnelbana (in this case). alternativt kan du betala honom för att täcka hela stockholms lokaltrafik.
Stockholm really stands out in a Swedish context.
Just the inner city bus line #4 in Stockholm has more daily riders than the entire Swedish rail network (excluding the Stockholm metro).
As often is, we can thank past visionaries for our network. Without the metro system and if someone had suggested it today - it would have been considered insanity and way too expensive. "Stockholm is way to small for such a network" and those kinds of arguments. Now the metro IS Stockholm. It's the backbone of everything.
A few years ago MTR (who operates the Stockholm metro) proposed to expand the network pretty much for free if they in return could do Hong Kong style settlements along the lines. That never happened though.
How many oassengers does li e 4 have.
Apparently 5C in Copenhagen is the most busy bus route in the nordic countries with 25 million passengers yearly.
It could be fun to see how close they sre to each other.
@@anderslarsen6009 Number vary but about 70,000 a day so ~ 25 million per year also. Has been planned to be converted (back) to a tram line for decades but nothing happens.
The Stockholm metro has about 1 million rides per day.
Ah the #4 line, no wonder it's less crowded when I choose the subway to get to Odenplan over the bus
We have plenty of NIMBYs saying this exact thing in Gothenburg, the second largest city in Sweden. Our tram network is great, but a major expansion of it is long overdue. Plus, when we do get major transit expansions, people freak out like nothing else. There’s a big commuter train tunnel in construction under the inner city right now and it has been targeted with several acts of sabotage while the narratives in the newspapers claim that the tunnel won’t be enough, that it’s a wasted effort and why aren’t we fixing the congested roads instead etc. Really frustrating. There was even a political party started _specifically_ to fight this project and it got double digit percentage of votes. Stockholm is so lucky to have such efficient transit already in place.
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Worth to mention. The Gothenburg tram system runs along the streets within the central parts and mostly on separated tracks on the radials. Getting around in the central parts takes time if you go from one side to the other. Furthermore, almost all lines pass through the bottleneck Brunnsparken.
I would keep the streetcars in the central parts. I would make the outer branches (to Angered, Bergsjön, Mölnlycke, Tynnered, Kungsten and Länsmansgården) completely separated (metro standard). Then I would connect these branches via tunnels or elevation through the central parts, giving these lines:
1: Bergsjön Gamlestaden Gullbergsvass Centrastationen Domkyrkan Haga Linneplatsen Frölunda Tynnered
2: Länsmansgården Centralstationen Gamla Ullevi Korsvägen Mölnlycke
3: Angered Gamlestaden Olskroken Stampen Gamla Ullevi Avenyn Haga Järntorget Masthugget Majorna Kungsladugård Sandarna Kungsten
It could be worth mentioning that the T-bana (Metro) and tvärbana (tram) is also, apart from buses, complemented with boat lines from some of the islands. Especially in some newly erected living areas close to the shore this has become a popular way to reach the city center.
I lived in this city for 5 years now and I love how convenient it is to travel here.
I have ridden the stockholm metro a few times, most recently a few weeks ago while on vacation with my family. We only needed to go two stops from Slussen to T-Centralen so we could get to the intercity rail station. What was so amazing about it for me was as we descended onto the platform, one side was served by northbound red line and the other by northbound green line making transfers between these lines a breeze. Furthermore since both of the lines went to both of the next two stops we could choose either of the lines to get to where we were going. Seeing as they arrived at the exact same time to the platform we opted for the slightly emptier train. As we crossed bridges and went through tunnels we could look out the window and see the other train and all its passengers zooming along beside us which was literally such a weird but beautiful sight.
The incredible almost constant frequency in the center of the city during evening rush hour and the masses of people using the metro was a pretty neat experience. Also: Stockholm is beautiful. I would love to see a video on the city ferries!
I live in Stockholm and pass by slussen to t-centralen every day omw to school. It's to this day still fun for me to watch the parallel train and the people in it, and the absolute time precision I imagine it would take to sunc them up like that is stunning. Only problem is that issues and train stops are quite frequent but I don't have much experience with other cities metros so I don't have anything to compare
Stockholm had an advantage over London. They started building their metro 87 years later and could take advantage of better tunnelling and technology.
Very true.
So true living in Stockholm and have been in multiple times in London I couldn't agree more.
Yeah, and there is also a big difference in what kind of ground we're talking about.
Much of Stockholm sits right on the bedrock. While you can't really dig in the ground, because it is solid granite, you can blast your way through the rock, making very stable tunnels.
Most of Stockholm's topography has been shaped by the help of dynamite.
Once you realize this, you start to notice the rough, blasted rock surfaces everywhere in the city, not just under ground.
As said in the video, most of the rail is actually above ground. These rails and stations were built during an era of massive urban expansion and wouldn't be as easy today as there isn't enough accessible space on the surface.
The "Tvärbana" (light rail) mostly stretches through what used to be industrial areas, that were demolished and re-built as housing and commercial districts in the 90's and 00's.
There are almost no such industrial zones, including port facilities, left in the city of Stockholm, but there are some in the greater metropolitan area.
The green line through the central city was built the old way, by digging up the streets, laying down tunnel segments and covering it back up again.
You can notice this by the fact that the green line more or less follows the street grid, and is usually just below street level.
Is that bad?
I wonder if Stockholm will have the same problems with heat accumulation over time? Or was this problem known when the started work on the Stockholm subway and there's a fix of some sort in place there?
To understand the whole public transit system in Stockholm you also need to take into account the other train services (not just Tvärbanan). There is a system of "communter trains" (pendeltåg) that broadly mirrors the metro system but goes much further out and have longer distances between stations. With an interconnection at Västerhaninge the system takes you to Nynäshamn and the ferries to Gotland and Poland; an interconnection at Södertälje takes you further south west into Södermanland. There is an interface with Arlandabanan, the airport shuttle, and the regional trains to Uppsala. There are also a couple of separate, older systems. There is one tram system in Bromma, a remnant of the old tram system that was dismantled in the 1960s as Sweden started to drive on the right-hand side. To the north east there's Roslagsbanan, probably the oldest part of the system, bringing commuters in to the metro system at Tekniska högskolan. South east from Slussen there is Saltsjöbanan, which is an old line built to service the posher bathing establishment in what was then very rural areas. This line is technically a railway and not a regional transit system.
The Pendeltåg goes all the way to Uppsala, no need to change to regional trains anymore. That makes Uppsala Stockholms most northern suburb.
@@victorcapel2755 Depends on your definition. There are direct trains that look like the Stockholm regional trains (pendeltåg), but technically they're not, as you cross into another county. At least for a while the Uppsala train used to work like a regional Stockholm train. You paid extra to go across the county line. But in essence your're right, of course: No need to change train. Just get the right ticket and off you go.
After being in stockholm this week I can say the blue line is beautiful.
I live in Stockholm and grew up learning to navigate the city primarily by Tunnelbanan. This video still taught me some new things, though!
Small update on the future metro projects for anyone interested: I think someone must have realised that having a yellow line running along the green one was a bit of a strange decision. It was recently decided that instead, yellow will become the colour of the aforementioned grey line once it opens.
And, the new branch up to arenastaden will become part of the green line.
thank the lord for that, the previous yellow line was so terrible haha
Geoff Marshal said this was his favourite foreign metro in his Q and A video where you are also mentioned!
Sort of dissapointed that you didn’t talk about the other rapid transit lines in Stockholm like Saltsjöbanan and Roslagsbanan, which are really unique and interesting in their own right. Hope to see a video discussing them as well!
Jag skulle inte kalla saltsjöbanan för ”rapid.”
Tekniskt sätt är den det, men kanske inte i verkligheten
@@cryptikgd ja precis. Det går alltid fortare att åka buss.
@@rumble1925 Nej, att köra bil går fortast
And the ferries.
I think the Tyne and Wear Metro is an interesting example of how to use new city-centre tunnels to link under-used heavy rail lines and turn them into a coherent light regional metro
By the sounds of it you don't use it regularly... it's good on paper but it's far from a metro and has multiple issues making it less the ideal
@Joe Banks it's just to do with the frequency, or lack there of, parts of the network get a 15 minute service that goes to 30 on Sundays. I think it would be more of a regional rail (given the fact it also crosses 4 counties and 2 cities)
@Joe Banks Tim Dunnn explain it. On twitter a little while ago too
@Joe Banks the core where you get both lines and a 7 min frequency is definitely the best bit
The main reason for the radial design to the east is that the bay is 30 metres deep and is home to a large sea port. That meant either tunnelling ~40 metres down or constructing an extremely tall bridge that still has to be reached from under ground. As mentioned, the part of the blue line that is under construction now will have the second deepest subway platform in the world, 100 metres below its entrance.
The new tunnel under Stockholm for the commuter trains has essentially made them a part of the tunnelbana network and extends it to the closest neighbouring cities to the north and south with 200km in length servicing 54 stations on 8 lines.
I haad to comment, Stockholmshjärta is an amazing youtuber and knowledgable person. As a swede I get real inspired by his informational and fun videos especially about the subway. Love him! So nice to see him here!!
I have lived in Stockholm for 11 years now and absolutely love the transit system here! One thing not mentioned in the video: many of the middle-aged trains (I think you called them the C20 model?) are christened with ordinary Swedish names. (For example, you can see "Elisa" at the 8:41 mark.) It's always a bit of a thrill to be able to board the train with my name on it when I am waiting for a ride. It has only happened three or four times in all the years I have been here! 😊
Yes, Vagn 2000 C20 comes with names! Fun fact; the C20 car with the number 2000 original name is Inkognito C20F, later renamed Elvira. It's a one-off prototype, looks almost like a normal C20 but is built with composite materials and has smooth stainless exterior panels. My favorite :)
@@lubrikwiklund Interesting! I definitely saw the Elvira train once or twice but had no idea. (I noticed it because a one-time dance instructor had that name and it made me think of her.) Not sure if I ever rode her, though.
If I'm not mistaken, a lot of the trains are named by kindergarden-kids. SL (the regional transit authority) reached out to kindergardens all over Stockholm to get suggestions for names from the kids.
I love the T-Banan! I've ridden it many times in the past as I used to live in Sweden. Having ridden metros in London, Washington D.C., San Francisco, Los Angeles and Helsinki, I find the Stockholm system to be the cleanest, most efficient and rider friendly I've ever seen.
Awesome video, I'm Swedish and found it really interesting!
I love the fact that at 2:22 the sign above the elevator translates to "Reported broken. A repairman is on his way" :D
Oh, just a small detali. The tram shown at 4:44-4:50 i not Tvärbanan but Spårväg City that goes from the city center to an area with lots of museums and parks called Djurgården. It is an extension of the old Djurgårdslinjen from 1877. There's also a very old (but modernized) tramline in the western area called Nockebybanan or "Tolvan" from the beginning of the 1900:s. It meets up with Tvärbanan at Alvik.
one interesting advantage with the cave like stations is that because the bedrock is left (basically) exposed they stay nice and cool throughout the year, especially if you compare it to London where due to when it was built they used materials that absorb heat way too well making some stations unbearable in the summers especially nowadays.
Tunnelbanan is Stockholms best AC
I was so surprised when I visited London some years ago and I thought I was going to be able to escape the hot summer air for a few moments by taking the metro and instead got blasted with even hotter air the further down I went!
Where Simon once travelled through in Cry of fear. Nostalgia! 😆😎
Hi and thanks for the video! I would also add info about the suburban trains (Pendeltog, designated J) which recently added a HUGE project with a new tunnel under the city center culminating in the amazing Odenplan J station, which alleviates the train traffic from T-Centralen and the congested bottleneck of Gamla Stan...:)
Love these videos--visiting Stockholm in a few weeks and can't wait to see this system. I'd love to see a video on the Bilbao Metro in Spain as well--growing rapidly in a relatively small city.
At 5:30, there is a tiny little problem. The blue line that extends on the north side is supposed to be the blue line located further up, not the one below. Additionally, the extended line is supposed to be more of a upside-down and mirrored J shape, with the end pointing towards the west. It's going to "Barkarbys Handelsplats" located west of Akalla, the current end station, and then a little towards to the south to arrive at "Barkarby Station".
Otherwise, amazing video and helped me better understand the place I live in, I even got to see the station where I live!
I think it would be cool if you talked about Riga, its a developing city with quite alot of public transport projects. Anways love your vids keep up the good work!
Ive been in Riga for the last 2 months for work, and im sorry to say but I dont think there is anything interesting about the public transport there in my opinion.
Yes, unfortunately they are just cancelling services and nothing is really planned.
I've worked on the C14/15 and C20 as a repairman. Also driven the C6 C14/15 and C20. Good trains.
Nice to see something positive about the Tunnelbanan for once. I have to say, having MTR take over from Connex was a great step up at least. Though you missed mentioning the ghost train!
Excellent video. Worth noting is that large portions of the metro is ready to be used as shelters if somethings happens.
The Blue Line up Northwest, you've actually coloured in the wrong blue branch. The Northern of the two, currently terminating at Akalla, will "swing around" to reach Barkarbystaden and Barkarby Station. You've highlighted the Southern of the two branches.
Yes, its supposed to be completed in 2026 if things goes as planned.
Great video! I lived in Stockholm for 8 years and ride the metro almost every day, and I still learned lots of new things here
i live in sweden and i have metro and this video acully explained alot to me and also i learned something new thanks for the video :D
I love that the older stock is still in service. Perfectly usable stock should be used until it is no longer usable. That frees up funds to use for the extensions in service you talk about.
Nice video!
The blue line extension to Nacka was planned back in the 1970s, but was scrapped then. Which is why it ended at Kungsträdgården and why Kungsträdgården is so deep down (it prepares the tunnel going under the water that is rather deep).
I heard the plan while building was to go from Kungsträdgården to Stadion and Mörby, for later extension to Täby. That would be the reason the platforms are longer to support 10 cars from stadion and beyond.
On the other hand, the end station (slut station in Swedish) Akalla was meant to have one more station, and the tunnels was already built good part of the way to Bög. This is a thousand year old Viking village with this name, but the word for other reasons also turned up as a bad slang word for homosexual man, and the politicians in the 70s couldn’t handle such a name as a slut-station. True story.
@@macjonte Well we cant have a Bög Station now can we?
Good call by that politician.
@@macjonte Lol, quite funny story, but sadly not completly true.
The main reason that the Akalla-line was never extended further is that the planned neighbourhood, Hansta, never got built. The million project was winding down and there wasn't really a need for that much new housing back then.
I mean, you could still get apartments easy in Stockholm when I was in my teens in the 90s, Stockholm inner city population didn't reach it's 1960s levels again until a year or two before the break of the millenium. Hell, my parents was able to get an inner city apartment by S.t Eriksplan as newly arrived immigrants on teachers salary in the early 80s. That would be utterly impossible today.
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Seems like the beginning of the 90s was a great time. The sovjet union fell apart, houses for everyone and interest rate lowered from crazy high levels. :)
I'm sure there were other reasons why they didn't build Bög as well, and yours seem like a more political correct one we can use for the history books. ;)
@@macjonte Well, depends on what part of the early 90s we're talking about. 91-92 wasn't good at all with the economic downturn (as a kid with 2 public sector worker parents, I felt that since the public sector got cut down hard). It got better a few years in in some ways. For people looking for apartments, it was decent up until 97-98, then the fact that we didn't build almost anything for 30 years became obvious.
But Bögs gård is still called Bögs gård, so there's still a chance to get a subway named after it. We have to petition the county council.
I am from Stockholm and just wanted to say what a great video! thanks !
Some minor British systems (Tyne & Wear Metro, Glasgow Subway, Manchester Metrolink & West Midlands Metro) would be interesting to see - we've (rightly) heard a lot about London's transport but the rest of the UK can also do this well!
If only we had local powers to raise capital and fund proper London style transport systems around the rest of England and not have to rely on the Treasury to say yes (or more accurately, no lol). Places like Manchester and especially Birmingham ABSOLUTELY need an Underground network.
@@TalesOfWar Agreed! The closest we ever got was a stub tunnel under central Manchester that we never got as part of the ill-fated Picc-Vic scheme, and it can be soooo much better than that, but alas, trams it is so far. Not that I hate trams, but quite a lot of them (Birmingham and Manchester in particular) are on old railway alignments that better suit the suburban metro style of transport, I think (similar to outer fringes of Suburban London (Zone 4/5/6) tube lines)
@@chrisoddy8744 The Metrolink really needs orbital rings to join it up as it fans out. It's great if you want to go IN to Manchester, not to great if you want to go Oldham from Bury or Rochdale (also why is there no line to Bolton?). And yep, most of it was built on lines closed under the Beeching cuts. This is why the platform height is so high compared to most tram networks. It's basically heavy rail infrastructure with light rail rolling stock.
@@TalesOfWar I believe they trialled some original DLR stock (with OHLE instead of 3rd Rail) on what was then still the Fallowfield Loop during the planning stages, which would have been interesting to see used as the concept going forward. Maybe a light rail DLR or T&WM style would be preferable as a concept for use in other UK cities compared to a full scale Underground line?
@@chrisoddy8744 Given the rate Manchester especially is growing, I think a full blown metro system is needed, or will be within the next 20 years or so. It's the fastest growing urban centre in Europe and has been for years. The population is expected to double in the next decade in the city itself with all the new housing developments.
The transport system around here is already crap, largely down to stingy bus operators but that will hopefully change for the better now we've got public control of it again. It'll allow for a London style system where it's all one operator, all one ticketing system etc. From the back of this we could potentially get some proper heavy infrastructure investments to support this growing place. In an ideal world the whole east to west belt from Liverpool through Manchester, Leeds and down to Sheffield would be a super hub. Kind of how Greater London is so expansive and connected by a well integrated transport network.
Wish you would have brought up the commuter rail as well. It connects some of the portions of Stockholm that don't have metros and in 2017 they built a new central hub (Stockholm City Station) beneath the main railway station to make connections easier. It's also pretty funny how at 35-40 metres below ground level, the new station is actually further down than all the metro lines at T-Centralen!
Too deep away to be reachable. And also very radial - the whole system has hardly any cross connections. Any decent transport system needs ringlines!
@@sb8821 that wouldnt work in stockholm since the mälaren lake and the stockholm archipelago makes any circumferential line extremely expensive or very small that would not help alot of citizens
This actually makes me miss living in Stockholm. It was so easy to get around! I think that i actually managed to visit every single station in the five years I lived there, simply because I could!
You should do a video on Cologne in Germany. It has a very extensive transit system that includes trams, S-Bahn, "U-Bahn" and buses, which connect the different neighbourhoods/"Veedel" of Cologne.
On another note, the Rhein-Ruhr transit system (which includes the big metropolitan cities of Dusseldorf, Cologne, Essen, Duisburg, Dortmund, Wuppertal) is perhaps the largest conglomeration of independent metropolitan transit systems, making it is easier for people to transfer between these cities in close proximity. Students in this German state (NRW), for example, have access to ALL the public transport in the state of NRW of course including all these cities.
As someone from said Ruhrgebiet, let me tell you, our transit system is not that great. It's 'ok', but frequencies are low, and constant cost-cutting measures are making the experience worse and worse, discouraging more and more people from using it. Surprisingly, car traffic in the Ruhrgebiet also gets worse and worse every year. Who could have known? The current infrastructure was mostly planned during the 60s and 70s, and that was not a great time for transit. In Duisburg for example, most of the extensive tram network was torn up in the 50s and none has been rebuilt since. Also, there are more than ten different operators spread over the Ruhrgebiet, each with it's own mind, bureaucracy and lobbying power to local politics, and that number doesn't include the Deutsche Bahn, which runs the S-Bahn, RB (Regionalbahn), and RE (Regionalexpress) services. There is the VRR (Verkehrsverbund Rhein-Ruhr) trying to organize things region-wide, but the situation is not ideal to say the least. The Ruhrgebiet has incredible potential to have outstanding transit, with more than five million people living there, but there is a lot that needs to improve for that to be the case.
@@stiggel Yes I totally agree! I also lived in this area, so I know the downfall of the system haha. Yes, it's totally complicated in this area haha. Definitely has a lot of upgrading to do, but there is potential as you said.
11:14 That’s interesting, I notice the kids playing to the right of the clip after. It doesn’t feel like a station. It feels like a relaxed hangout area. Other transport systems should maybe take note of this.
just went stockholm and i think the metro was one of the reasons i loved it so much.
Nice video. I worked in 5 of the new stations that is in making as we speak. (barkarby, gullmarsplan, Hammarby, nacka, and one in the city.) I was driving the 18 wheeler that went down the tunnels to get the rocks out. Its weird to think when you're down in these dark wet tunnels that this is gonna be a station very soon.
The trains also look unique, especially the C20 train in stockholm, it was built in 1997 and looks super futuristic!
You really should check out Helsinki, Finland. It has the northernmost metro line in the world and an extensive tram network with big expansions especially to the trams, including a bridge exclusively to trams and walking/cycling, that will be the longest bridge in Finland. The metro line has some similarities with the one in Stockholm with it being designed at roughly the same time and using blasted stations and overground stations. It also has some interesting stories about attempts to automate the network. I'd be happy to provide some pictures and answers to any questions.
I live in Helsinki and the metro network here is ridiculous compare to the Stockholm T Ban. There´s basicaly only one line which divides in two lines at the east end of the line for 3 or 4 stations. And here in Helsinki the metro is full of drunk/noisy/smelly and junky people. Especialy Sörnainen station the "drug" station.
Stockholm is definately well above Helsinki in many ways since Stockhom is a real european city when Helsinki is trying desperately to be something european or international.
@@foooooob there’s bunch of junky people in Stockholm on the trains as well :)
What's special about it being the northernmost?
Nyt se teki niin!
@@foooooob yeah but the train in helsinki acts like overground metro lol
I enjoy all of your videos. I don’t usually comment, but still find all videos interesting please keep up the great work.
Would love to see you do one on the Oslo metro (T-Bane) too! It has a pretty fascinating history starting with a west and an east side that wasn't connected, then eventually connected at the same station for transit, before being totally connected with trains running from west to east. It is also fascinating how long they ran old rolling stock on one of the lines because they were the only trains that could make it up the hill and use the stations before it was fixed to be compatible with the larger system.
I love the Oslo metro line going up to Holmenkollen! What a view!
I enjoyed the video! What I would find interesting to be covered would be the Gothenburg tram. It's interesting because of its history (starting out as a Tunnelbana project but ending up as a tram/light rail hybrid; there's exactly 1 station underground (Namely Hammarkullen) featuring the longest escalator in Sweden), because of it's density and because it's the only tram system in Sweden that has survived past "Dagen H", the day Sweden switched from driving on the left-hand side of the road to the right (which was 3 September 1967).
As many others have pointed out it would be fun to see a video done on the Stockholm commuter trains / Pendeltåg, deaignated J instead of T.
With them, the metro and all the trams, Stockholm really is a nest of rails ^^
One would think watching the video that there are only 2 ways by railroad to travel. The Pendeltåg stretches through the entire city just like the Metro and even longer.
Would be cool if the light rail lines where added to the map, it covers a ton of the north eastern parts of Stockholm that is often forgotten.
Called Roslagsbanan its based on old train lines for goods from Roslagen north of the city. Today it connects at Tekniska Högskolan, "Technical University" on the Red line
Thanks for an informative and interesting video of my hometown!
I've been on a binge with your videos lately, they're really great! I love the effort and detail you put into them!
I would like to see a Manchester Metrolink video soon, I could even get footage for it 🤔
4:46 is another tram line. Not Tvärbanan. Fairly short, from central Stockholm to the island Djurgården. Fun fact: It was called the NK-express by dislikers because it initially connected a rich people area with a fancy store named NK a few 100 meters away, and was expensive to build.
Nice video! Fun to see about my hometown, the Tvärbana will extend out to me in Helenelund and will be the end station after Kista
I was in Denmark a few weeks ago, and their metro system is quite impressive! And one day, me and my best friend are going to Stockholm, and after everything i've seen, this metro system looks exciting.
I have lived in Stockholm all my life and I find the metro system to generally be very good. You can get everywhere you want in a reasonable timeframe. It is very well complemented by the different light rails, busses and the quite extensive commuter rail
There's no denying that there's a lot of positives to point out with the system in Stockholm, but as someone who uses it every day, it's also worth pointing out some of the negatives.
The first is definitely price. There has been constant price hikes the last few years which is understandable, but it has also come at the same time as MTR (operators of the rail system) completely plastering both the trains, platforms and stations with advertisements. It covers windows on transportation, blocks a large portion of the art on the "art gallery" platforms and completely covers stations at times. The working conditions have also drastically declined, leading to a heavy shortage of employees, leading to cancellations and delays multiple times a week. It's even worse for the station/cleaning staff, leaving a lot of the stations very run down and unkept. All of this makes it hard to swallow higher prices.
There are very few ticket checks onboard. This means that people frequently run up behind you and use your ticket to ride for free, and even people blatantly climbing over the glass opening doors Infront of employees, as they can't do anything to stop them. This goes hand in hand with security which has increased but is still lackluster.
I think the actual system in place is great. I definitely don't have any confidence in MTR and the future planning though. It's fairly clear that the populace and commuters aren't at the forefront of the company's priorities.
You made a few mistakes.
First of all, the blue line extension in the northwest is on the other branch.
Second, the green line extension is not a new line, it's just green.
Third, it's not the gray line, it's the yellow line.
And you forgot to mention Lidingöbanan, Roslagsbanan, Saltsjöbanan, Pendeltåg, Spårväg 7 and Nockebybanan.
Great video!
Amazingly well covered film and narration!
This is excellent!! Thanks!
You should do a video on Stuttgart, a city with amazing topography and impressive public transport. Happy to provide materials.
Some incorrect things:
The new blue northern extension will go from line 11, Akalla, not 10, Hjulsta.
The placing of the seats in the c20 trains is actually just simple groups of 4's. The new c25 trains, that arrived together with the new c30, is just old c20 trains with the new c30 seatings.
But great video still!
Yeah, I noticed that the footage did not show the regular c20 cars, but some refurbished versions. Thank you for pointing that out!
Nice video. It made me laugh everytime you said Kista. We definitely don't make "K" easy for foreigners 😂
I also smiled when hearing it! For anyone interested, it should be pronounced "Cheese-ta"
I grew up in Stockholm and I guess I always took tunnelbanan for granted and never liked it much. As an adult, I much prefer to use the extensive bus system instead of tunnelbanan - because, you know, daylight - but I can see that it is very practical and why people like it. There are three connecting tram lines that you didn't mention, which you'll have to include in your next video: Lidingöbanan, Roslagsbanan and Nockebybanan. I grew up near a station on Nockebybanan, or as we call it: Tolvan (Because it has the line number twelve).
I used to be a subway driver on the blue line in Stockholm back in the late 90s.
It'd be amazing to see a video on the Athens metro, it is seldom talked about and it'd be a nice look at how a city is forces to alter itself in view of an upcoming big event (the 2004 Olympics) and with the archaelogical finds presenting such a problem. Line 4 has also started being built so it's a great time to talk about it
Tvärbanan is the best tram line! The view from the tram between Alvik strand and Gröndal is pretty amazing. :)
This was a really good explanation of the Tunnelbana in Stockholm, but I do feel that it's worth mentioning that there is another relevant system, the Pendeltåg which serves a similiar purpose but with fewer stations and a longer reach.
One of the most beautiful city I've ever been to.
It's nice to see my workplace being described this way.
Don't forget SL also operates boats between Stockholm's numerous islands, providing convenient shortcuts.
Brussles metro,premetro and trams are very unique. Suggesting a video on it here.
We could learn a lot in Toronto from Stockholm and the SJ. They punch well above their weight with the different modes of rail transport. All for a city of less than 1.5 million.
The c20 remind me of the new tube for London because that also will have an unusual bogie layout. I also think they have aged well as they still look modern.
The c30 look like a neater version of the s stock aesthetically
12:51 I've stayed multiple times on that white boat (closest one), it's a floating hotel called Gustaf af klint. It never goes anywhere but the bobbing is nice. I miss staying there.
Thanks for this interesting video. Interesting with all the new branches being planned. I live in Stockholm myself and sadly I must point out that currently there are some major problems with the system. For one, there has been major problems with the escalators for years. They break down all the time and it takes months, even years before they are fixed. Especially the commuter trains ("Pendeltågen") - which meet up with the other lines at a huge underground station below the subway ("Tunnelbanan") at T-Centralen - has been plagued by this and it's a looong way to walk up from the lowest sections. Also during rush hours there are often a lot of disturbances, it seems to me the traffic is not adequately dense so we get overcrowded platforms and cars all the time. But when all runs smoothly it's nice!
I'm in Stockholm right now and I'm making the most of this 72-hour ticket. It's brilliant.
That guy being named Måns Henriksson is wild because my name is Måns and my father's name is Henrik
yo thats crazy
great video! sometimes you'd talk about tunnelbanan and you'd show footage of tvärbanan etc but very good video overall, even me as a Swedish person learnt some new details about the expansion of the subway, amongst other things. But yes, as people have mentioned, going into Tvärbanan sorta means you should probably have talked about Pendeln, Nockebybanan, Saltsjöbanan etc
And then the role that buses and boats fill on top of that, to make it into one of the most extensive and highly effective public transport systems in the world.
Me, a swede riding the Stockholm metro almost daily: "Oh mhm how interesting"
You should talk about Rio de Janeiro, it has everything of transit to: Commuter rail, metro, tram, BRT, ferries... Would be a great video
Love the cave stations.
Lyon, France might be interesting if you haven’t covered. They have a steep rail line I think you know plus rail and air connections. Interesting geography, too. Cheers thanks
Måns and Marcus have great channels...and you made a very good video 😎
One interesting feature I noticed is that the T-bana runs on the left, a relic of the original driving habit of Sweden before Dagen H in 1967. Mainline railways in many countries have longer and more convuluted histories so the running directions vary, but metros tend to be more modern and align with the driving direction of the city they are in. The Stockholm metro is a notable exception because the change of driving direction occurred after the first lines were opened, a rare occurrence for a developed economy. As a sidenote, the eastern section of MTR Tuen Ma Line in Hong Kong runs on the right for a practical reason - to allow southbound (downtown direction) cross-platform interchange at Tai Wai Station.
Even in the station corridors you’re supposed to WALK on the left. Swedes never seem to have adapted to the idea that they’re supposed to be on the right since 1967…
Love all the explainers!! it would be great to see a Melbourne or a sydney one!!!
great video as always
And under the metro its Citybanan, the new tunnel for the commutertrains. Pretty cool tunnel that had a tunnelrun for running some years ago
It would be great if you could make a video about Manchester’s Metrolink. It is a really cool transit system, getting people around the city and from the suburbs.
hey, I love your vids!!! you should talk about Milan next, according to the mayor, it will be the 5th city in Europe in terms of metro systems when line 4 will open. you should talk about the Milan public transport system in general, I think it should be interesting how it all integrates together.
Munich would be a great video. It has an interesting network layout including branches and cross platform changes. S bahn second tunnel construction is underway.
You should do a video of the mallorca train network, really impressive network!
Stockholm seems to have the base infrastructure of a really comprehensive system. It's not abnormal to have lower frequency at the extremities of a system, if you go out to Underground stations in Essex like at Debden Green for example you'll not get a 2-6 minute service there most of the time because outside of commuter peak hours there just isn't the levels of ridership to justify it, on the occasion I hopped on there there was only myself and my colleagues using the station.
Do a video on the Melbourne tram network please and where you see it could be improved. Love your videos!
I believe you incorrectly showed a picture from a different tram line when talking about Tvärbanan. The image at 4:48 shows the T-Centralen stop on the Spårväg City line, which is not part of Tvärbanan. Stockholm has four separate tram lines: Lidingöbanan, Tvärbanan and Nockebybanan (which are partly conjoined) and then lastly Spårväg City which only runs along 11 stops in the city center. Otherwise, great and informative vid!
I love Stockholm! Have lived there pre Covid for a couple of months. The public transportation is quite good. It's running quite frequently, though in rush hour, it can be extremely packed and sometimes there is a traffic jam of metros. But this was pre covid, perhaps nowadays it's ok. I love it that you can use your subscription for the ferries. I think the railway services to other cities in Sweden is a bit poor, quite often I had delays and the frequency is meh.
Just need to correct a small mistake. It’s the “east” section of the blue line that is being extended two stations, to ikea and to the commuter rail station Barkarby.
great video. :)
as an stockholmhjärta fan this video seem'd appropriated. as i live in stockholm all my life one tend take this for granted. i dont fancy the new trains. fewer seats and the sided has an strange angle that makes it easy to hit your backhead as you are about to sit down. that literly happend first time i traveld with it. never happend in the older straight walled trains... boxy design has it reasons.. not only good lookin but practical too.
Great overview, but you missed showing the most common interior of the c20 (blue with pattern and seats by grouping of 4)
There are only three cities in the US that are larger than Stockholm; New York, Los Angeles and Chicago. You can’t look at the numbers of the city itself when it comes to Stockholm as the urban area consists of several connected municipalities that connected in size is somewhere in between Chicago and Huston. The metro system runs through several of these municipalities and not just Stockholm city.