THAITSUKI NIHONTO HOSO KUMIAGE KATANA
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2014
- This is a short review of the Thaitsuki Nihonto Hoso Kumiage Katana.
This sword was bought to remind me of the nine (9) years I spent living and working in Japan. I wanted something solid and functional but also beautiful.
The Hoso Kumiage Katana is made at the Thaitsuki factory in Samut Sakhon, Thailand but this company claims strong ties to Japan by their statement:
"We have been using methods and secrets of sword making that were passed down to us by Yamada Nagamasa..."
Credits
Photos are Creative Commons 3.0 Public Domain.
Facts & Content are from written history.
Music:
1st Song - Sakura (Japanese Folk Song). Album Title: Sakura Theme and Variations. Bought from Amazon MP3 by sweetcostarica online.
Closing Song - Taiko Music.
Album Title: Japanese Taiko drums. Bought from Amazon MP3 by sweetcostarica online.
Fantastic video as usual mate :)
Beautiful Samurai Sword and very well polished blade one of the best I have viewed on You Tube and probably the sharpest and most functional along with a Citadel Ocean in the $2000 range, I'm not there yet but I know quality when it's displayed well.
A very cool vid and a beautiful blade,...thanks for sharing.
damn this thing is awesome!!
I love that katana I must own one ! ;) Not any time soon because I'm broke, but maybe one day ! Great vid man ! You've got class and culture i love it !
Thanks VietNormbo. I know what you mean about low funds.
I am blessed that in Alaska *every person* from 1 to 100 years old gets a PFD.
PFD means Permanent Fund Dividend and this is money from the oil companies.
It's their way of thanking the Alaskan citizens for the oil they take away.
We get this free money every year and the amount also changes every time.
This year we received: $1884.00 per person just because we live in Alaska.
Many folks buy cars, made house payments, and some drink it by buying "the good stuff".
I guess you know where half of my PFD went.
Lol, interesting information as always man never new Alaska's oil companies did that ! Thanks for the information ! Your a very intelligent man ! God Bless you sir ! :)
great review Thank's :)
Thank you stephane chollet.
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!
badass!
Thank you sweetcostarica im from México, cabo san lucas do you know if fiskars or himalayan imports ships there? Also khukuri house? Thank you .
Yes, they both ship worldwide. So Mexico is no problem but might cost a little more in some cases.
Ok, the question of the fiskars hatchet vs chiruwa ang khola is that whic one chops wood better and faster? Also im thinking buy inf one but i cant decide if horn or wood, which one is mor crack resistant? Thank you.
Oh, I see. Here is my answer (opinion alert!):
They both chop wood equally well.
The *Fishers* is designed as a lightweight effective hatchet at an affordable price.
It is a great chopper & a good splitter for it size. I love mine for hiking.
Weight: 22 oz (615 grams)
Cost: $25 USD
The "15 inch" Himalayan Imports *Chiruwa Angh Khola Khukuri*
This HI kukri is large & heavy for it's length. Due to this it is a
good splitter and great chopper. It is well liked by HI fans.
Weight: 28.2 oz (800 grams)
Cost: $175 USD
Reviews:
outdoors.magazine.free.fr/spip.php?article72
Fiskars X7 Hatchet: Hall Of Champions
*Horn vs Wood*
The choice between these two materials is really a matter of personal preference.
*Wood* is great but must be oiled to avoid shrinkage & drying that leads to cracking.
*Horn* is great also but has trouble in really cold temps. It too must be oiled. You can use Mineral Oil or Hooflex (horse hoof restorer & conditioner).
Hope this helps you get the right tool for you and your needs.
A beautiful sword, but aren't Katana spines typically around 40 rockwell? Wouldn't a 30 rockwell be prone to bending more easily?
I think the clip owner give wrong information....the hardness is different in their website....
grate review brother do you think the sword is Tough Enough and will it bend easily?
Thanks. Is this Katana by Thaitsuki Nihonto strong, tough, will it bend easily?
I personally have not tested it in Tameshigiri or backyard destruction test but I think it is strong and heat treated well as that is Thaitsuki reputation.
Here are what others have said:
*Thaitsuki katana tameshigiri review* (from SFI):
"Now for the cutting tests :
The overall feel of the Thaistuki is of extreme lightness and agility. It feels like an Iaito.
The nagasa balance is 4 inches from the habaki.
The first target was the ceremonial cardboard sword box which sliced cleanly with an iai draw.
Next : more soft targets.
1 litre plastic Coke bottles were no problems and I manages 4 'O' pickle chips before overturning the bottle (warning : bottles are scratch magnets).
Free hanging A4 paper from the ceiling was also no problem. The sword sliced away the lower corners easily and sliced the sheet horizontally in two.
With some trepidation, I decided to try some hard targets.
The website dsiplayed a guy cutting 7 INCH bamboo with a Thaitsuki. I KNOW my Cold Steel Kat and Bugei can handle it, but the Thaitsuki seemed so slight and fragile.
I found some 5" wild green bamboo. The sword sliced through it with ease.
IMHO I can say this :
Beefier kats like the Cold Steel may be more forgiving on bad cuts and actually complete the cut even if it is a baseball bat swing due to the weight of the sword itself.
The Thaistuki may need a bit more refinement in the cut for hard targets (although light targets are no problem) and training in Japanese sword arts is advisable (er.. actually in all cases).
The sword is definitely tougher than it looks or feels.
In conclusion?
A great looking and great performing kat. Well worth the $$.
I liked it so much I just orderd a KTN 1 (Musashi) to see what the feel would be like without Bo Hi and a KTN3 as I like the finishings..."
Amazing video. Thank so much sharing.
My pleasure. I am happy you liked this sword video.
Question to you zoo:
Are Katana popular in Canada?
sweetcostarica Not quite sure. I know in my area, just outside of Toronto, I can't find a good martial arts school that specializes in the use of Katana. There is one Kendo school I still need to check out. I personally do not know anyone with a Katana.
sweetcostarica Are you still in Japan?
zoo No, I'm not I left in 2001 after nine (9) years. Extremely interesting people and culture. Now I'm in Alaska and love it a lot for it's great outdoors. Just like Canada, Alaska is a hiker's, camper's, skier's, etc. paradise.
Beautiful katana, I've always wanted an original odachi, but it's way outta my ballpark... Plus they suck for butchering moose or caribou! Great to hear that you're a Kurosawa fan too! Loved his movies since I was a kid...the Magnificent Seven was just a remake of Seven Samurai. Hasta
The real thing is just too expensive for most of us so we can only dream and buy good replicas.
You said: "The Magnificent Seven was just a remake of Seven Samurai." Yes, my Japanese friends pointed that out more than once. They are very proud of that fact.
Take care & Happy Halloween.
Damnnnnn....that freaking sword is sick!!! How does it baton...lol?
Hello, just a question, chiruwa ang khola vs fiskars hatchet? Thanks
Sorry Leocernask8, I can not answer such a deeply personal, situational, and lacking important info. kind of question.
The kukri and the axe/hatchet demand learning & experience so I need much more information on you. Many folks like myself need a tool that is efficient & effective in all weather conditions up here in harsh, unforgiving Alaska.
Up here that tool in Winter IS the axe & hatchet. But during the other three seasons the golok, Kukri, bolo, etc. are fine and sometimes better for ease of carry.
So more information about the *who,where,* and *why* before you can get the *what.*
Stay frosty.
tora havildar kukri or tora bsi? which do you think is better and why?
That is a hard question because everyone is different and have different needs.
What do you want a kukri to do for you?
Is this for others in the group and/or family to use also?
Where do you live (environment)?
Nice Mechanix M-pact gloves!
Thank you very much (said in Elvis voice).
They are version one, I like the Mechanix M-pact 2 gloves a little better but these were on hand.
sweetcostarica
Do it on video :)
i like katana sword
Here are some things wrong with the katana from an Iaijutsu perspective: the kurikata (knob where the sageo goes through) should be laqured and rounded to prevent it from hooking on the side of you (kaku)Obi, the metal Kojiri is could also hook on to your (kaku)Obi whilst doing certain tecniques.
But it looks fine for cutting melons and tatami omote.
$700-$1400 and they cannot properly wrap a tsuka with alternating pattern ito, properly form a kissaki and heat treat a blade to give it better mune/spine of 40+ HRC 🙅.
I do appreciate Thaitsuki using silver fittings and top quality ito and sageo...but it's hard to overlook what I mentioned above for the price paid.
Saludos desde Los Estados Unidos.
+TeHGoodReverend I like almost everything about the Thaitsuki Nihonto Katana I bought for $1,200 USD.
Not being a businessman, I have no comment on why Thaitsuki does or do not do certain things to their product. In situations like this it is best to get the reason from the manufacturer.
Heres Thaitsuki Nihonto USA contact information:
Thaitsuki Nihonto USA
Email: thaitsuki@hotmail.com
Phone: 1-205-213-0111
Hope that helps you find what you are looking for.
+sweetcostarica I meant no disrespect man. However that being said, if you look at what Thaitsuki offers from a katana collector perspective...well then you see what I referenced in my comment. Thaitsuki's reputation is mixed among production sword collecting groups.
To Thaitsuki's credit they are the only production sword company making cast silver fittings and using high quality silk and Shigeuchi/Kakucho sageo cord on all their katanas.
Anyway, if you like your sword that's all that matters :). Let's be real Thaitsuki doesn't care what I think :P.
is that a straight hamon ?. those are quite hard to make. really nice
Yes, but I am not sure it is real since this is a mono-steel katana.
sweetcostarica aah ok. thanks
sweetcostarica Hamon appears as a result of the differential hardening process. What type of steel, or whether there are different types or just one, has no bearing on it.
It certainly looks real from what I can tell by the video.
+sweetcostarica The hamon is an etched hamon :(.
+standingunder Its an etched hamon.
29.5 in. katana? Aren't they *supposed* to be around 40in.?
I am measuring the blade only, thus that is a 29.5 in blade. With the 10 inch handle then it is about 40 inches long.
*Interesting note:*
"In terms of sales, the highest demand and probably the closest to responding to your question would be between 2.4.0-2.5.0 blade lengths or between *roughly 28.5 and 29.8 inches."* - Quora
Beautiful sword, the koshirea is very nice aswell,however I'm almost certain that the steel is not traditional tamahagane,folded and hand polished with wet stones all the way to the end. However i know its tempered but probably in oil to prevent it from possible cracking. Regardless its a beautiful sword.
Thanks. In Japan I visited the area in Tokyo that has custom traditional bladesmiths. If I told you the cost involved in making a real handmade Japanese sword signed by the maker on the tang - you would appreciate the non-traditional Thaitsuki swords as a reasonable stand end.
I've had a few swords but the best and most inexpensive for a real almost 100% sword is *Albion Swords.*
They do not make Japanese swords but they are reasonable and are swords that will be collector items in
the future. Check them out on *_Kult of Athena._*
@@sweetcostarica thats realy cool you went to Japan!I want to go some day!Alot of places I want visit there!Your right real nihonto are expensive, i have some,my oldest is a wakizashi from munetsugu,he was a shimada Smith from the 1400,its in real nice higo mounts.My favorite is my Nagamitsu katana,he was a bizen Smith signed in tachi mei,in war time type 98 mounts though.Some day i would realy like to get a kanemitsu Katana,very expensive like 50 thousand for this one .maybe someday haha!Lastly I would love to have a modern katana commissioned for me by the gassing Ryu as there still active and make beautiful blades in the same way as 500 years ago,ago, think its sadatoshi who is alive right now but forgot lol!Have a great day!
so beautiful
lol hey demonsword, i happened to find you in the comments, like your vids!
thanks :)
got some new vids being made. hope they help
hi and greetings from greece.try to go and hit a street light you know of course the lower part!!!! and if it is not break then you can name it a KATANA!!!!!!
Unfortunately, the movies (even Japanese ones) portray the katana as if it was a chopping tool, like an axe. Of course it was used to chop heads during executions, but it was not the way it was used in combat where the samurai armors forced the warriors to use it for precise cuts in parts of the body that were not protected by the armor. Only the last 4 inches at the tip were used most of the time. In fact the katana was more an oversized scalpel than a long and slim hatchet.
Actually, if you had to use the Japanese sword in open field combat, it's because you were probably on the losing side. Spears, bows, and primitive firearms were the standard for warriors in Japan. The armor was also made of the same material, and extremely robust, so getting through would be next to impossible. If anything, the katana is an elegant form of trench knife, a last ditch effort to hopefully take someone out before you were killed.
In reality, it was probably used the same way a rapier would have been used in Europe at the time... a symbol of one's position and a way to end a gentleman's disagreement quickly. Not a tool of war.
+Patrick2345454
You make so many mistakes that I don’t know where to start. Yes, you make some good points too but you mention too many half truths. But let’s point out the fastest mistake to debunk. You say that, *_“Spears, bows, and primitive firearms were the standard for warriors in Japan. The armor was also made of the same material”._* NO, they were NOT. To begin with, the katana is a laminated sword. It has an inner core that gives the hardness to get the desired sharpness, and an outside core that gives strength. That’s why it got its curvature when forged and submerged in water, because the 2 steels had different chemical composition and different reaction to changes in temperature. Also, if you have a sword that is only hard, you will get a very sharp sword that will break easily. If you had a sword that was only strong, it won’t break but it will get dull very fast. To say that spears, bows, and the armor were made of the same material, only proves that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Therefore, I won’t read or respond any more of your comments because I would be losing my time with an ignorant person who pretends to be very knowledgeable. Bye, bye forever!
ogarzabello Don't take my word for it. If you don't believe me, take your favorite katana out and try to cut through a flat piece of 1/8" mild steel. Send me the video so I can laugh at your loss. Katanas were used for sorting out arguments between UNARMORED nobles, not for winning wars. It could be drawn as a last ditch effort, but Japanese warriors had other options that were far more efficient for getting through armor. There is a reason the Japanese spear was made with a triangular cross section, and there is a reason the gun replaced the sword. Don't kid yourself son, reach is important, no matter how much anime you watch. I'm not downing the craftsmanship of the Japanese sword, I'm simply pointing out why it would be out-shined by every other weapon on the battlefield. You'd be better off with a tanto in close quarters, considering it's conceal-ability and maneuverability. Plus it's design as a stabbing weapon puts it head and shoulders over the katana.
Don't they present most swords like that in movies as chopping tool
***** I hate it when people read my comments, do not understand them, and still try to argue. Nobody said that Japanese used mild steel, 1/8" armor. What I am saying is that there are better weapons for getting through armor, and in fact the katana would have been a last ditch effort on the battlefield.
I enjoy watching anime like many other people, but I don't take it as historical fact.
How can a thai katana be nihonto?
+Braix Blanco Thai katanas are not nihonto of course. Nihonto is in the band name i.e. ThaiTsuki Nihonto. Some might say that is misleading and they are right. But it is what it is.
More interesting info on words:
Thai - relating to Thailand
Tsuki (突き?) - is the Japanese word for "thrust"
So Thaitsuki means to thrust Thai or Thailand.
sweetcostarica
"True japanese made katanas from thailand"mhhh... i can see why some people would find this misleading...
Other than that,for that price,it better be a decent piece.
Braix Blanco Thaitsuki Nihonto are very good blades *for their price range.* The reason Thaitsuki has been around so long and I did a video on one is testament to their high value.
True Nihonto katanas start at $5,000 to $6,000 USD for the low end ones. So the term a "decent piece" is highly relative.
Enjoy your swords.
I am Thai...and i think this sword brand is too overprice!.....
With this price....they should put more detail...and give a damascus steel with t10 edge! ..
Also...didnt argument with the quality if sharpness!....😝
@@kewintaylor7056 True but...
These days the Japanese sword is not bought by the regular or average Japanese citizen.
Today's Katana & companion blades are *pieces of art,* hence the personal contact with the bladesmith
to tell him your personal details to custom make it for you in Japan or to ship it overseas.
*PRICE*
If you ask *"How much does it cost"* you can not afford one of these *real* _made in Japan_ blades.
For a real antique Japanese blade, *if you can get your hands on one,* it will have many zeros on it's price tag.
Hence, the Chinese, Thai, & others copies of the Nihonto are selling well.
this is an old post, there are alot of things wrong with your assessment, 1 is the sword is made in Thailand and they out source there steel from Indonesia and China, it is not Japanese steel, the 2nd item is they are stil having alot of problems with aligning the Saya with the the Tsuka, 3rd the yokote still looks wonky, 4th the polish is not worthy of a $1400 dollar highend katana, 5th when my nephew recieved his it took both of us about 3 hours to get the Tsuka off of the Nakago in which the Nakago was very sub-par, 6th Samgaway was very small node for a highend sword. The good points on this Katana is yes the silver furnishings are a nice touch and beautiful and the Saya fits proper with the blade. Overall the BIG issue is on a Nihonto Katana the blade presents 70% of the value of the entireity of a functional Katana so if you put the silver furnishings aside you really do not have a highend Katana its very midocre to even some medium end Chinese production swords.
You are 100% (IMO) correct. But I can not help loving my Japanese "inspired" Thai made international sword. As I said I have lived in Japan for 9 years and if I wanted a "real" Japanese Katana I could have bought & made the video on it.
From reading your points above I think you are watching the wrong video. This video 📹 was not made for you. Sorry.
Actually in Asian culture... High quality blade and unique one is you need to talk to the maker personally
Agreed. These days the Japanese sword is not bought by the regular or average Japanese citizen.
Today's Katana & companion blades are pieces of art, hence the personal contact with the bladesmith.
PRICE
If you ask *"How much does it cost"* you can not afford one of these *real* made in Japan blades.
From a real antique Japanese blade, _if you can get your hands on one,_ has many zeros on it's price tag.
Hence, the Chinese, Thai, & others copies of the Nihonto.
mono steel is not an actual katana then, is it?
Depends on your viewpoint. This Katana replica was made in Thailand so is it a nihonto?
If you want a katana with real folded steel it will cost much more. if you want something that is close to a katana but affordable then mono steel wins. Everything is relative.
Nice comment though.
Its cheap model,they have fold steel model that double the price too!
where can I buy a quality sword and not get ripped off?
The best place is "Kult of Athena."
Did you know that a part of one your kukri videos was in naked and afraid?
No, but I didn't want to know that.
It is funny though if that is true.
sweetcostarica Yeah it was in the most recent episode of naked and afraid.
Made in Thailand
I love that fact too. Great company.
+Phungern weerasri Nearly every sword on the market is made in Thailand of China... unless you get into the real cheap shit that's made somewhere in the middle east.
There are some great forges in Thailand and China. A real Japanese katana would cost way more money than you could afford to pay probably. I use the term "real" loosely there, as these swords are about as traditional as you can get... they simply aren't made in Japan, by Japanese people.
+AdoreYouInAshXI That is right, "real" could mean different things to different people.
In Japan some folks have their antique family swords (as I mentioned in the video), but unless you are VERY well off you will not have a real katana at home. Maybe you're a gangster (Yakuza). But even then that is not a "real" good katana, just a throw away weapon.
Anyway, just like the kukri, parang, bolo, etc most people buying them are Westerners. And so the prices ranges wildly. And there are a lot of katana makes that sell bad copies and we foreigner won't know the difference.
I think Bugei is good for a starting point into the world of the katana ($1,250 to $1,500 USD). Thaitsuki's swords are good too but I think Bugei is high quality, bigger and better for any trouble with the product.
For REAL Nihonto 日本刀 starting point is $3,000-5,000 USD and it goes far, far higher.
Needless to say not many can afford a real katana.
Thanks be to God we have good inexpensive representations on the market from Thailand & China.
Stay frosty.
@@AdoreYouInAshXI do u know....most katana that Thais buy...are mostly import....
From er....u know......China!...😱😭
Cuz its cheaper....and most ppl dont know that Chinese katana use cast steel or just stamp steel....
(Not forge....but except some brand.)
Also.....
Thaitsuki...give too expensive price tag...with all that fitting!....
Most ppl in Thailand would think its too expensive for the quality and beuty!...😑
....................Noy-Guchi......................?..
made in thailand ... , nihonto means literally made in japan
That is true.
The story about building katanas for 400 years is not true and a girl that lived not that far from the place they are put together., I've seen more then just one of these swords that had shims and glue and just poor workmanship . Bugei swords are a partnership between Hanwei and Bugei and they have better quality and Skijiro and Citidel are also better.
Maybe i missed it, but this is not a nihonto.
No it is not. You would need about $5,000 to $7,000 more USD for a Japanese Katana made by a Japanese master sword maker 🌊.