Thanks for the very helpful video. I found the side by side clips very telling. There is clearly a difference in the ease of grinder between the two - which as you pointed out is probably expected given the much higher volume that results from the one. For me the ease of use and ability to add small amounts of pepper are more important than the huge volume so if I do pull the trigger it will be the Cannon
I just realized unfortunately my entire days work of editing down the videos then exporting the clips were ruined and I only have 3 seconds of each footage and the originals are deleted :( it was SO MUCH PEPPER to use up
sure, but I doubt it will get much worse. Only the Moulin seems a little inconsistent or can feel stuck at times but that's not the burrs rather the mechanism. Seeing as I have experience in quality coffee grinders, and they used quality burrs, I don't see them getting worse. I've actually owned and used the Moulin over 2 years, the Mannkitchen Cannon for a little over half a year and use both quite enough.
@@GadgetsGearCoffee ended up buying the Moulin set (Pepper + Salt grinder + Caddy). I prefer the aesthetics of the Moulin- it looks more interesting and cohesive on a table or countertop. Being able to adjust grind size without putting my hands near the burrs is also nice, especially when cooking. Lastly, I wanted a grinder that outputs a lot of pepper. A couple cranks of the Moulin outputs a ton ground pepper. The price of the mannkitchen set is (without promos) $400 vs $580 for the Moulin. Felt like the extra $180 was worth it for the aesthetics, adjusting mechanism, and output.
One “problem” is that I also really enjoy green pepper. It has a bit more fragrance/citrus qualities and less heat (good for guests who don’t like heat). I also use white pepper on occasion for italian or chinese food…
@@rc_matic do you find it a little difficult to grind pepper? I find it is harder on than Cannon for sure for me especially when hands are wet, but once I start cranking I can keep a momentum going. WW told me it was the peppercorn I was using but I'm using the same in both with different results (ease, quantity)
@@rc_matic AHA! So I also use white pepper (I never thought of using it for Italian food though! which dishes?) and freshly grind many other spices, at first I would empty out my grinder then put the new spice in and then put the pepper back, I'm fine with a little mixing but it was more work than it was worth. The other spices I use are usually softer than black pepper, like white pepper is quite easy to grind so I got a textured mortar and pestle instead (took me THREE different ones until I found the right one) and have that on hand for coriander seeds, cumin, white pepper, allspice etc. something like this amzn.to/3VMsu3H or amzn.to/4cHesGN
I have not! there are so many options out there nowadays, it's becoming like coffee grinders (though grind adjustability and uniformity is less a necessary thing on pepper grinders, I'm sure it's good as well :) it comes down to preference now and the Mannkitchen Cannon CUP is a different thing I haven't seen on others, though not difficult to replicate
Thank you so much for this wonderful / informative video. I'm so undecided on which one should I buy. I watched all your comparisons videos on both products & still undecided🤷🏾♂️ I'm kind of leaning towards the mannkitchen, but I love the look & build of moulin. But after reading some of the comments with people issues and moulin customer service is what got me leaning towards the mannkitchen. I would love to know which one the grinders you lean towards if you can only choose one since you've experience using both?
@@DaBlackPharaoh it depends I use both still, mainly do grab the Mannkitchen to blindly grind into the catch cup. It's also easier to grind and I have a wrist injury now so that may be why
@@DaBlackPharaoh great! I still reach for the Weber Workshops for when I cook eggs and just need a little sprinkle because it's right by the stove (the Mannkitchen I stored on the shelf nearby) and I don't need to remove the cap so I can use it quickly. Either one you'd adapt and enjoy. If you do get Mannkitchen, please use the affiliate links in my description and also please come back and share your experience! I really do with the design was more rugged especially considering their marketing. Maybe in a v2
I saw the design of the Cannon, thought it looked familiar. Bought a second Timemore C2 Coffee Grinder for my pepper and it works just as well. And only cost me 50 quids. :D :D :D
@@GadgetsGearCoffee It's an acceptable compromise at the price range. Also, I 3d printed a cowl of sorts since pepper doesn't need that much torque. Definitely can buy a C2 and a 3d printer in the price that either of these sell.
it's definitely harder to grind, you get more output. I didn't realize the difference until I got the Mannkitchen Cannon, which outputs less but is smoother. If it requires 1-2 extra cranks, I don't mind because it's so smooth
Nice grinders. I wonder how the 'Cole & Mason 7.5 in. Derwent Gourmet Pepper Mill' (top rated by America's Test Kitchen; around $55) or the Trudeau 'Stress Less Easy Grind Pepper Mill', which is said to 'grinds large quantities of pepper quickly and with ease' ($40). Or some coffee hand grinders would fare, like the Kinu M47 (take your pick of variation, which cost between $219-$429), or some cheaper options like the KINGrinder K4 or K6 (both around $100) or their least expensive models P0, P1, P2 (around $50, more or less). Or numerous other brands. You'd have to compare the burr sets included to those used in the pepper mills you featured. Their capacity might be an issue, but there seems to be a lot more options with coffee hand grinders than pepper grinders. And maybe consider the Kruve Sifter, if you're extra obsessive. Thanks for your video. (Sorry, I now see you have other coffee related videos!)
I couldn't find the Burr set size got the mannkitchen cannon but for moulin I believe it was 47mm so I left that comparison out as I couldn't find the info for one :/ not sure about the Trudeau the other I tried from my friend that I linked in the description it put out a lot of pepper too, but from reviews its durability is questionable. It's the same as hand coffee grinders, but there def could be a player out there to make a metal not a single piece version that could be cheaper but still effective. A coffee grinder for pepper may work well but may not cuz of Burr geometry and how it ends up grinding a diff type of material that will crush different
my mom has a battery powered one, albeit very old and not necessarily a quality one with no grind adjustments, it works fine but I rather not faff about more batteries, I think for someone who does have mobility issues though it's a fantastic option! Is there a reason you want a battery powered one? If you go with the Mannkitchen one, it's very easy to grind and you get a lot out of it
@@GadgetsGearCoffeeI'm afraid there's only one way of saying it, regardless of where you hail from, but moreover especially if you speak French, as you stated. We don't call Chanel, "Channel" despite how it's written. Easiest way to accept this is to type it into Google, and click the speaker icon on translate. That'll help you, as a French speaker. Peace out. ✌🏽
everyone's got their thing and priorities, it's not pretentious, it's a matter of different priorities. Most people have an activity and hobby they like to invest in and it's worth it TO THEM. Fishing? I couldn't care less. But someone else would. I don't use words like dumb, pretentious, etc. I think we should all be more considerate, kinder and aware in this world instead of throwing around mean words, even if on the internet.
Like most consumer products, there are diminishing returns the higher up you go on the price point. There’s the cheapest and most expensive options, and everything in between. A Rolls royce costs more than a house, while a mitsubishi mirage costs less than 1/10th of that. I wouldn’t call a Rolls Royce Owner “Pretentious” and I wouldn’t call a Mirage owner “poor” or “unrefined”. The things people buy and their character, while correlated to some degree, are unrelated on an individual level.
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You make videos no one thinks of and I love it, very high end
*clutches heart* gasp, thanks!
Thanks for the video, I was actually just considering getting the Mannkitchen so this is perfect timing!
Did this help you decide? Also, do come back and share your experience :)
Thanks for the very helpful video. I found the side by side clips very telling. There is clearly a difference in the ease of grinder between the two - which as you pointed out is probably expected given the much higher volume that results from the one. For me the ease of use and ability to add small amounts of pepper are more important than the huge volume so if I do pull the trigger it will be the Cannon
@@billeverett4090 come back and share your experience if you do, and consider the affiliate links for purchase! Thanks!
Thanks for a great video! That big test video sounds nice!
Would love to see the full comparison video you mentioned.
I just realized unfortunately my entire days work of editing down the videos then exporting the clips were ruined and I only have 3 seconds of each footage and the originals are deleted :( it was SO MUCH PEPPER to use up
They are both great when new. Do your test again on the same units in 2 years.
sure, but I doubt it will get much worse. Only the Moulin seems a little inconsistent or can feel stuck at times but that's not the burrs rather the mechanism. Seeing as I have experience in quality coffee grinders, and they used quality burrs, I don't see them getting worse.
I've actually owned and used the Moulin over 2 years, the Mannkitchen Cannon for a little over half a year and use both quite enough.
@@GadgetsGearCoffeeare your issues with the moulin only with the salt grinder, or both the salt and pepper?
@@loganyoung2408 both
I was looking for a comparison for these exact two options! Will probably go with the Moulin
why is that? and come back and share your experience!
@@GadgetsGearCoffee ended up buying the Moulin set (Pepper + Salt grinder + Caddy). I prefer the aesthetics of the Moulin- it looks more interesting and cohesive on a table or countertop. Being able to adjust grind size without putting my hands near the burrs is also nice, especially when cooking. Lastly, I wanted a grinder that outputs a lot of pepper. A couple cranks of the Moulin outputs a ton ground pepper. The price of the mannkitchen set is (without promos) $400 vs $580 for the Moulin. Felt like the extra $180 was worth it for the aesthetics, adjusting mechanism, and output.
One “problem” is that I also really enjoy green pepper. It has a bit more fragrance/citrus qualities and less heat (good for guests who don’t like heat). I also use white pepper on occasion for italian or chinese food…
@@rc_matic do you find it a little difficult to grind pepper? I find it is harder on than Cannon for sure for me especially when hands are wet, but once I start cranking I can keep a momentum going. WW told me it was the peppercorn I was using but I'm using the same in both with different results (ease, quantity)
@@rc_matic AHA! So I also use white pepper (I never thought of using it for Italian food though! which dishes?) and freshly grind many other spices, at first I would empty out my grinder then put the new spice in and then put the pepper back, I'm fine with a little mixing but it was more work than it was worth. The other spices I use are usually softer than black pepper, like white pepper is quite easy to grind so I got a textured mortar and pestle instead (took me THREE different ones until I found the right one) and have that on hand for coriander seeds, cumin, white pepper, allspice etc. something like this amzn.to/3VMsu3H or amzn.to/4cHesGN
Well done!!
Have you seen the Luvan grinders? Seems like promising competition, but a lot cheaper
I have not! there are so many options out there nowadays, it's becoming like coffee grinders (though grind adjustability and uniformity is less a necessary thing on pepper grinders, I'm sure it's good as well :) it comes down to preference now and the Mannkitchen Cannon CUP is a different thing I haven't seen on others, though not difficult to replicate
Thank you so much for this wonderful / informative video. I'm so undecided on which one should I buy. I watched all your comparisons videos on both products & still undecided🤷🏾♂️ I'm kind of leaning towards the mannkitchen, but I love the look & build of moulin. But after reading some of the comments with people issues and moulin customer service is what got me leaning towards the mannkitchen. I would love to know which one the grinders you lean towards if you can only choose one since you've experience using both?
@@DaBlackPharaoh it depends I use both still, mainly do grab the Mannkitchen to blindly grind into the catch cup. It's also easier to grind and I have a wrist injury now so that may be why
@GadgetsGearCoffee Thank you for your insight. I appreciate your feedback. I think I'm going to purchase the mannkitchen.
@@DaBlackPharaoh great! I still reach for the Weber Workshops for when I cook eggs and just need a little sprinkle because it's right by the stove (the Mannkitchen I stored on the shelf nearby) and I don't need to remove the cap so I can use it quickly. Either one you'd adapt and enjoy. If you do get Mannkitchen, please use the affiliate links in my description and also please come back and share your experience!
I really do with the design was more rugged especially considering their marketing. Maybe in a v2
I saw the design of the Cannon, thought it looked familiar.
Bought a second Timemore C2 Coffee Grinder for my pepper and it works just as well.
And only cost me 50 quids. :D :D :D
great hack! you don't find that the long handle is overkill and a little annoying to use for this purpose though?
@@GadgetsGearCoffee It's an acceptable compromise at the price range. Also, I 3d printed a cowl of sorts since pepper doesn't need that much torque. Definitely can buy a C2 and a 3d printer in the price that either of these sell.
@@NishithThakkar genius
I can't believe how rough and catchy the Moulin seems to grind. I would never pay for that
it's definitely harder to grind, you get more output. I didn't realize the difference until I got the Mannkitchen Cannon, which outputs less but is smoother. If it requires 1-2 extra cranks, I don't mind because it's so smooth
they may have improved the design since, mine was the Kickstarter version
Nice grinders. I wonder how the 'Cole & Mason 7.5 in. Derwent Gourmet Pepper Mill' (top rated by America's Test Kitchen; around $55) or the Trudeau 'Stress Less Easy Grind Pepper Mill', which is said to 'grinds large quantities of pepper quickly and with ease' ($40). Or some coffee hand grinders would fare, like the Kinu M47 (take your pick of variation, which cost between $219-$429), or some cheaper options like the KINGrinder K4 or K6 (both around $100) or their least expensive models P0, P1, P2 (around $50, more or less). Or numerous other brands. You'd have to compare the burr sets included to those used in the pepper mills you featured. Their capacity might be an issue, but there seems to be a lot more options with coffee hand grinders than pepper grinders. And maybe consider the Kruve Sifter, if you're extra obsessive. Thanks for your video. (Sorry, I now see you have other coffee related videos!)
I couldn't find the Burr set size got the mannkitchen cannon but for moulin I believe it was 47mm so I left that comparison out as I couldn't find the info for one :/ not sure about the Trudeau the other I tried from my friend that I linked in the description it put out a lot of pepper too, but from reviews its durability is questionable. It's the same as hand coffee grinders, but there def could be a player out there to make a metal not a single piece version that could be cheaper but still effective.
A coffee grinder for pepper may work well but may not cuz of Burr geometry and how it ends up grinding a diff type of material that will crush different
What grind ruler are you using? I've been eyeing the Kruve Brewler ($15), how much was yours (and link, if you're an affiliate).
I was so sure I had linked it but I guess I had not! here it is s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DBdiWkX cheaper than the Kruve
@@GadgetsGearCoffee I've got one in my cart. Thanks a million.
I'd love to see a head to head pepper grinder video.
@@nunuabiznus I had so much footage I lost :( I likely won't be doing that test again it was a lot of pepper I had to go through 😅
Have you thought about or done a review on a battery powered pepper grinder? Great vid!
my mom has a battery powered one, albeit very old and not necessarily a quality one with no grind adjustments, it works fine but I rather not faff about more batteries, I think for someone who does have mobility issues though it's a fantastic option! Is there a reason you want a battery powered one? If you go with the Mannkitchen one, it's very easy to grind and you get a lot out of it
It's not pronounced "Mooh-Layne". It's 'MuLan'. Helpful video nonetheless.
@@BUZRBF I actually speak French so I pronounced it as such as it is a French word.
@GadgetsGearCoffee I speak French also. It's the same word as in Moulin (Rouge), as in Vin (wine). It's pronounced 'MuLan', not 'Mooh-Layne'
@@BUZRBF if you're France perhaps, where I live the accent is different. Agree to disagree.
@@GadgetsGearCoffeeI'm afraid there's only one way of saying it, regardless of where you hail from, but moreover especially if you speak French, as you stated. We don't call Chanel, "Channel" despite how it's written. Easiest way to accept this is to type it into Google, and click the speaker icon on translate. That'll help you, as a French speaker. Peace out. ✌🏽
sald
No pepper mill is worth the price of a laptop. Pretentious.
everyone's got their thing and priorities, it's not pretentious, it's a matter of different priorities. Most people have an activity and hobby they like to invest in and it's worth it TO THEM. Fishing? I couldn't care less. But someone else would. I don't use words like dumb, pretentious, etc. I think we should all be more considerate, kinder and aware in this world instead of throwing around mean words, even if on the internet.
@@GadgetsGearCoffee Refer to previous comment.
agree to disagree, your opinion, my opinion. C'est tout.
Like most consumer products, there are diminishing returns the higher up you go on the price point. There’s the cheapest and most expensive options, and everything in between. A Rolls royce costs more than a house, while a mitsubishi mirage costs less than 1/10th of that. I wouldn’t call a Rolls Royce Owner “Pretentious” and I wouldn’t call a Mirage owner “poor” or “unrefined”. The things people buy and their character, while correlated to some degree, are unrelated on an individual level.
Stainless steel isn't high carbon steel. These are 2 different materials.