Nissan Vs. Nissan | Jalopnik Investigates
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- Jalopnik takes a look at the 8 year long legal battle that almost ruined Uzi Nissan's life.
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Sooooo...his name is Uzi...and Nissan?! Man i can see this guy having trouble with more than one company lol
Pe Peroni you're about as funny as a brick house
disciprine brick houses are funny as hell loooool
Autistic Screeching even worse! He steels the name and doest even use it properly?! What a shame! One "z" aint gonna stop them lawers bruh!
This guy will be sued to the bone. I hope he doesn't own Uzi.com
Nissan wasn't even close to being the world's largest automaker at that time. Check your phrasing folks.
MoutainMan3000 maybe if you take into account other companies that they own. I don't know I found that a bit weird
That still doesn't sound right by modern standards. Nissan can report whatever they like, most companies do. VW and Toyota are well documented to have massive market shares, far out stripping any other rival companies. Maybe Nissan was back in the 90's or whenever this case was but highly unlikely. All three of those companies are pretty niche now and have lost large amount of the market for multiply reasons apart from Renault who are still a bit niche but are at least steady.
"The world’s largest automaker by volume is now, for the first time, the Renault-Nissan alliance. It sold 5,268,079 vehicles in the first half of 2017. In doing so it outsold Germany’s Volkswagen (5,155,591) and Toyota Motor (5,129,000). Long-time world leader General Motors trailed behind in fourth with around 4.7 million vehicles sold."
Natasha Bach
Fortune.com
JUL 28, 2017 4:34 PM EDT
Daniel Le Huray "The world’s largest automaker by volume is now, for the first time, the Renault-Nissan alliance. It sold 5,268,079 vehicles in the first half of 2017. In doing so it outsold Germany’s Volkswagen (5,155,591) and Toyota Motor (5,129,000). Long-time world leader General Motors trailed behind in fourth with around 4.7 million vehicles sold."
Natasha Bach
Fortune.com
JUL 28, 2017 4:34 PM EDT
Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi** is the largest automaker group.
Looks like history repeats itself with the case of Samcrac Vs. Domino's Pizza, where the latter wants to snag the two DXP cars he bought and intends to finish restoring.
To all those calling him an idiot; This story was not about taking off with the money. It’s like having your dream car and someone offering you $15M at first.. and then after rejecting the offer, sueing you and trying to get it that way instead. I would do the same as Uzi. It takes a lot of guts and courage to stand up against a company that big and for him to pull it off successfully after all those years of fighting speaks volumes. We need people like this. It’s not about ego, it’s about standing up for yourself and keeping the big guys in line. If people like this didn’t exist, corporate companies would steam-roll right over us. Look at the bigger picture.
The dude was hoping for a huge paycheck but left empty handed with 0 shekels
He gets paid if he wins the case
Ilyass Karouach
Oi mi sheckols oi my goid
More states or even the feds should do as Texas has done and enact the "Loser Pays" statute. Nissan motors would have had to cover all of his legal fees.
Hmmm....take a large financial payout from a big automaker or wreck yourself emotionally and financially over invisible space?
Yeah. Seems logical.
He gave them a number for the payout and they wouldn't take it.
Boter Bug Right, but 15 million? Really? Did he think that was reasonable? Look, he could have just taken the other domain name and just been done with it. He paid for it ultimately, so yeah. He was dumb.
Bro 100% I don't feel any sympathy for him. You pass & then want to complain? I could understand if it was tied to a business you own. At that point his computer business was almost dead. Seems like he just wanted the attention
outlawRACE1 did you not watch the story? It was tied to a business he owned. The story is longer than some 4:32 snippet of information. Look at what H&M is doing right now. These big companies bully people into submission and then if that doesn’t work they get the government to do their dirty work for them.
Randolph Thomas II Standing your ground and not letting the big corporations walk all over the common man is a much more important message. In a country where the justice system is a whipping block for billion dollar corporations to protect their monopolies i applaud this man for standing up for what is rightfully his and not backing down for a monitary value like you did in your comment. Grow a spine and realize that knowing you didn't back down and cave in to their money offer is the best thing a man could do in that situation.
I would have sold it for 15 mill 🤣
When has Nissan ever been The world's largest car company?
Darxcide 马克思 Since July apparently. I was also surprised.
Renault-Nissan including mitshubshi. Kinda pointless when you consider the amount of car brands within that group. It's like saying GM is the biggest manufacter in the US. Like okay.. which one? Chevy? GMC? Buick? Cadilliac? Opel? It means nothing.
exactly one of the biggest automaker in the world. nissan entered top 10 biggest automaker in the world
cloridan Beauchamps Used to be. Seems like having massive legal troubles and public scandals can really stiffle your sales. Nissan-Renault is top now.
cloridan Beauchamps
Especially VW group since it owns all of the major sports car manufacturers, except for Ferrari which the parent company owns 30% of Fiat-Chrystler.
Nissan is "Americas fastest growing automaker" for one reason and one reason only: They sell cars to rental fleets like nobody I've ever seen. I swear some days I think we are a Nissan dealer with the amount of Altimas, Versas and Rouges on the lot.
Uzi Nissan or Jalopnik didn't talk about how much money he was profiting from the site. He had advertisers on the site and the Jalopnik artice said that court documents showed the site was getting 500,000+ hits a month.
That's how TH-cam robs its creators pennies on the dollar. The site was his & he got 100% profit. Why do you think he didn't want to sell. Not because of principal because he was making money. The Judge even agreed, he was forced to pull all car related advertisements from his site, thats when he got mad.
Average cpm for an ad is about $4. multiply that by even a conservative 5 ads on his page, thats 8k a month. youtubes advertising is very different than a regular website.
Neezy Ko that depends on the TH-camr, length of their video, and genre. I make $3-$4 for every 1,000 views. We wouldn't work for $1 per 10,000 views. That's insanely low. Not even my secondary gaming channel makes that piss poor gain. Gaming still makes like $1 for 1000 views. I'm not even on google preferred, so chances are your favorite gamer TH-camr's are hella millionaires with their CPM.
@@BladedAngel surprised to see you here
Let me see. Uzi Nissan bought the domain in 1994. Nissan Automobiles were trading as Nissan in the US since 1986. So he bought the domain and like many others sat on it. Where was he from again? Ohhh I see.
Hehehehehe he bought it and knew the corporate would ask for it eventually.
LOL...he's greedy af.
Oy vey
I Am Sekou heeeeeeyyy it's the dumbass from that head2head comment section!
how's the dumb trolling btw?
Did any of you idiots read the article on this man? He was Nissan before Nissan was Nissan and had several business before Nissan Computers, named, you fucking guessed it Nissan.
They should have just given him the 15 million in hindsight.
ProtesttheAntagonist why? Fuck him- it probably cost them a million and a half in retaining fees at most. What do you do with someone that is unreasonable? Bury them
+kegansi and what did they offer?
KeganSi so massive corporations should be able to bury ppl that are being unreasonable?(which I dont think he was being, but this is subjective) You and I have very different views for a just world.
Here’s the deal-
We pay a few unseen taxes for living in a world in which you can go out- seek employment and receive money for your time. Break that down- how incredible is that on the smallest level imaginable. We can purchase vehicles that travel all around the state- even purchase tickets to travel around the world. If you live small enough- you can do all of this on 30,000 a year. You could make that at McDonalds. If you have something that somebody wants- and they offer to pay you for it m- choose wisely. Because that unseen tax I spoke of is having your opportunity to do all of those things ripped from you- if you do not just simply comply. Think that is unjust? Go to Saudi Arabia, the Congo, Djibouti, Russia. Tell me how your “just” world works out. You’ll find even on our worst day- America is still one of if not THE best destination to be in our world as we know it. Don’t believe me? Do some traveling
James Spencer ^
They were probably coming back over and over to put him in a poor financial position so that he'd be more willing to sell the domain. On top of that, if they did run him out of business, he'd have no reason to keep the domain thus be more willing to sell.
I deal in outboard boat motor parts with my job and nissan is still doing stupid stuff like this to anyone that uses the word nissan anywhere online. Years ago nissan brought over japanese tohatsu outboards rebadged as "nissan" to get in on the ever increasing boating business of the 80's and continued into the 90's, well as a parts supplier I have to sell these parts for not only tohatsu but nissan motors as a tohatsu dealer. About 4 months ago we had all listings on our ebay store for such products taken down for copyright infringement for the word "nissan" in the title even though all we sell for them is factory OEM kits for tohatsu and therefor nissan outboard motors. It's horrible business practice and wastes a lot of money to go after any and everyone using your name even when selling OEM parts for your motors...
It's like people in the comment section don't know the difference between:
a) asking for a unreasonable amount of money because you really don't want to sell something somebody else wants; and
b) asking for unreasonable amount of money, more than you were offered with
Let me spell it for you:
Uzi Nissan wasn't offered anything. He asked for fifteen million dollars, because the domain was his property in the first place. He did not want to sell it. Nissan Motor Company, obviously thinking that because they have more money than this little computer business, decided against buying the domain for the asking price. They instead sue the poor guy for ten million dollars, citing - in layman's terms - that they "own the Nissan trademark" and as such Uzi Nissan was "infringing on their property" by registering his domain, before Datsun decided Nissan was the new name to go.
Nissan went through all the correct legal ways of getting the site. They offered him compensation which I’m sure was substantial, but the guy must have been unreasonable. His site isn’t even used for business purposes anymore, it’s just to collect ad revenue and defame Nissan motors. You guys gotta realize that sometimes the small guy might be the asshole.
Alex Fishman lol Fuck are you talking about. He didn't want to sell, then they sued him. Obiously now it's a shit website but yeah.
This guy is a fucking g idiot. He should have just haggled and sold it for a ton.
runninggames771 that...was my point...
but that still does not mean you can neglect his rights since he own the domain and the name long before nissan was known as nissan
I think in the beginning, he wasn't being unreasonable. He just wanted to keep his site, which Nissan Motor did not register prior to the lawsuit. After a while, it probably became an ego thing. My guess is, the only reason he still owns the site is because he put so much effort and money into it, he doesn't want to give it up. Plus, as mentioned in the video, the site obviously hasn't been modified since the late 90s.
He was the rightful fucking owner of the website and Nissan tried to sue him over that. How the fuck is that him being the bad guy
Good lord...
I remember this dude's hompage back in the mid 90's when I had just switched from Prodigy to AOL. He was bitching about it then...
Wait can uzi sue the car company for using his last name on a car? I mean that name could date back to thousands of years ago...
no domain name only he have his company listed as nissan.com before the nissan car company became nissan they were datsun at first
correct, back when the jews were too preoccupied with killing jesus
Atleast gun companys didn't sued him...
He turned down 15 Million to keep a domain name for a computer company that doesn’t stand chance. It sounds like a very foolish ego trip to me. He could have grown his silly computer brand with the 15 mil and settled for right to use Nissan Computers, which more accurately represent his business. He’s a fool who let his ego run and likely ruin his business, as apposed to making sound business moves to grow his brand.
Exactly!
Learn to listen moron. They never offered him 15m. He asked for 15m since he didn't want to sell and they never offered that or counteroffered decently.
BraggenritesNetwork he didn't turn down 15 million. He said he would sell it for 15 million to emphasise (I don't want to sell it). Watch the video idiot.
he knows that Nissan was a big company at the time so he knew what he was doing (holding out for a big payday from Nissan) that is why he asked for $15mil at the time...
15million for nissan.com and Nissan.net Nissan had to be nuts to pay that amount
Lotta Nissan motor's ass kissing in this comment section... Normally all the US people would be on the underdog's side... Wonder if it's because he's an immigrant...
But seriously, the company changed its name after he registered the site. It's his prerogative to sell or not. But a big greedy company couldn't settle on "nisanmotors" do whatever because they weren't forward thinking enough.
Imagine if someone wanted to build something where your house was, and you were forced to sell via imminent domain. Would you be pleased with that? Big companies think that only they have rights to everything, and we just sit around and let them do whatever-the fuck, because "hur, that's capitalism." funny thing about that, it's not really. Forming monopolies, oligopolies and bullying smaller businesses isn't capitalism, at best it's crony capitalism.
In hindsight, 15m isn't shit for an auto maker. But instead they would rather try and bully some guy and take it because he didn't want to sell for their price. That's not at all a free market. That's basically robbery, he should have counter-sued for harassment and attorney's fees.
then again, not suing for legal fees was not very smart on his part
The courts don't always award legal fees though, he may well have tried and been denied during judgement.
So I guess he won't be a GT-R fanboy any time soon?
15 million for a site? Regardless if you're a big company or an individual that's stupidly overpriced.
nissan nowdays (excluding GT-R and fairlady Z) are not good and interesting. their golden age for me is during 90's when they release cefiro, silvia and skyline (non infiniti rebranded).
His business' website is more focused on Nissan Motor Co than his actual computer business
“Uzi Nissan”. Sounds like a death metal/ hip hop band.
He should post all the Nissan lawsuits on his channel about failing cvt transmissions, timing chains and radiators that take down transmissions.
Shark Tank hero and mega-billionaire Mark Cuban made a sh*t-ton of dough cybersquatting...and is now regarded as an idol and someone for millenials to look up to and emulate.
This lawsuit is what stopped me from buying a Nissan.
I may like cars, but I like computers more, and even then Nissan hasn't always had the best reputation for making good cars.
why didn't he just sell it to them for like a few hundred thousand, rather than fight it and ruin 10 years of his life
I dont know whether you Americans know this but Nissan has re introduced Datsun brand in India, Russia, South Africa, Belarus and some developing countries. Datsun is a budget car brand of Nissan.. just like Dacia is a budget brand of Renault.
Good for him standing up to that. But i agree to the fact of at what cost?
The only loser was him.
I live in the town of the owner in Fuquay Varina, NC
He just wanted money.
Guess where he came from lol
he literately got no compensation for his court costs or anything else. It was one man against a corporation and he won. I'm guessing he gets money from ads on Nissan.com.
Can't he sue Nissan for 3 million in damages if THEY cost him 3 mil?
That will come in time...
Wow I would have given it up in exchange for a gtr and an suv. Brand new every 2 years for as long as I live lmao
Why not NissanPerformance.com? Around that time they were advertising the 280zx and how it was "Awesome".
Because Nismo?
No, just the regular 280zx; it was a nice car. Their pitch ended with them saying it was awesome after it pulls past another car. Nissan does their own performance cars: Skyline, GTR, Silva, any Z; all of them have plenty of performance merits. That said they do have some "just, eh" cars in their current lineup. So take it how you will.
Spent 3 mill for what? To not even use the website anymore for his business? smh
Not gonna lie thats my uncle
Does he still run that company? The website looks abandoned and more focused in Nissan Motor Co than the actual computer business
"It Can Happen To You Or Someone You Know" ..on their site
I don't know anyone named toyota , jeep, tesla, honda ,isuzu as such.
Did Uzi win any judgement for court costs?
Mr. Uzi you should have requested Nissan Skyline R34 car to make road legal in states and legalized importing it hahahahaha.
Why couldn't they just pay the man, this is why lawsuits like this don't make any sense since they probably spent more in legal fees than what they could have offered the dude. Just one way how a giant corporations think they can take anything they like and not pay for it.
Could of had $15 million but noooo rather go to court for a long time
In July 2020, he died of covid-19.
cool it with those hands bruh
Why do American's say Nissan like Nessan? It's i not e.
You tried very hard to make it look like the motor car company was in the wrong here, but boy, would he have saved money, time and headaches if he had sold for a reasonable price a long time ago.
Did they offer a reasonable price? What would have been a reasonable price?
meowmeow Over a million obviously probably around 5 to 6 million.
This site is not even functional it is definition of cybersquating, his business wasn't even functional since late 90s so yeah I don't see reason why he should win this one Nissan wanted to settle it but he was just stubborn idiot who didn't even use this site for commercial use.
This guy is named after a car and a gun
GOT IT! Will never buy a Nissan. Hate corporate bullies.
Why didnt he sue nissan for damages and compensation?
Don't trust no one not even yourself
Kinda feel bad, but not enough to sell my '75 280z or Frontier. Nissan still builds badass stuff.
Toyota is the biggest automaker
I thought Volkswagen was? Look at their portfolio.
wtfffff ...never even knew about it...
He should sue them for damages that incurred because of their bullshit attempt to claim a domain they felt should have been there's but fucked up when buying the domain in the beginning. They deserve to be screwed. This guy doesn't deserve the harassment he got because of coincidence.
He's stupid for not selling the domain for millions... Ego > common sense...
Really!
Their cars are bland shit too.
Just had taken the 15 million.
That guy doesn’t deserve his last name. The actual Nissan (car company) could of destroy Uzi’s shit. Nissan keep doing what you do, best outta Japan.
Nissan never sold the most
So time for Mr Nissan to sue Nissan :P
One more reason to hate NIssan (the car company) and yes, I had to check out nissan.com.
Why would you want to take a guys last name and use it to name your company?
And then the guys got rich and bought a nissan gtr
He's just as stupid as someone can get. Why would I want to waste my time, my health, my money over a stupid domain that doesn't really matter to me. If I were him I would've sell it to them and live happily after that.
Am I the only one who wonders if he registered Uzi.com
I feel like he could of saved a lot of time and money and stress if he just took there million dollar offer... but whatever floats this guys boat.
for an enterprise devoted to web design and development, their web page Nissan(dot)com sucks!
an arab guy name nissan?
F it I don’t care I’m still gonna buy a gtr
Oh, Look!! Another reason to hate Nissan!!! As if their cheap and weird cars were not enough ....
Start a go fund me!
I'm sure he would be able to get that 15 million from NISSAN. Or even more.
Just my own 2 cents... but if pride was just set aside by either company, this would've been so stupidly small and it annoys me to see such a big problem over something so small as a domain name :c
But if I were him, i would've taken the 15 mil and not worried about my company and lively-hood going down the drain over a website name....
He offered them 15,000,000.
They didnt want to pay that so they sued him.
IIGrayfoxII ah okay I misunderstood, I took it as Nissan offering 15 million. But still if pride was set aside I'm sure Nissan would've bought it for a good price either way and he would've walked away rich from it
Just sell the domain to Nissan for a realistic value, buy a new home/start your business and change your website to NissanComputers or whatever (work out an agreement with Nissan). But it is his and he can do whatever he wants. As if he will ever do anything with the website... it's rocking the mid to late 90's HTML look right now and had ads. Probably making some money off people mistaking his site for the automaker's. His actions make absolutely no sense to me as life's opportunity has given him a cash cow he cannot feed and nowhere to keep it. Like being given a space shuttle in your back yard; unless you are Peter Griffin, you are never going to use it. Sell it to the Smithsonian for a few million for all to experience and retire. I don't feel sorry for Mr Nissan, I don't hate him.... I just think he is a stubborn unrealistic person that will die a very bitter old man.
the court judgement was fair, he kept his url and got his way. But let's be honest, just have a look at the freakin website! What a useless waste of space by a good url on the web. Legally, theres nothing wrong with him keeping his domain, but farrrkk, you've gotta be one hell of an idiot to turn down 15 million and make your family and business run through all of that. Plus, if he took that 15 million, he could've grown his business and gotten very rich himself.
He's a crook and an arrogant **s! That's called cyber-squatting.
It's his domain, he can do what he want with it!
So you have to give up domain name because someone else wants it?
Furthermore "Cyber-Squatting" is no more different than being a patent hog
all he had to do is get 15 million from then and he wouldnt have all this trouble
He offered to sell the domain to them for 15,000,000.
They didnt want to pay it so they sued him
His name is nissan.
How unsurprising that it's a jew.
why are your eyes so close together?
Typically middle eastern man
MrMister1227 Wait, the Arabs says Jews should go back to Europe, Nazis told me that Jews are middle eastern.
So where did the Jews came fron exactly?
Nissan's Transmissions are utter garbage. You should get passing power in any car above 170hp if the engine revs past 3000rpm. not in any nissan paired with a CVT
Joshua Garcia they fixed it now mine has no problems
Cd009 & jk40 Transmissions are some of the strongest & smoothest transmissions in the game. I don’t like nissan’s cvt transmissions either but you can’t say nissan’s transmissions are all garbage
Wow the comments here are totally ruining me. Everyone seems to have missed the point of this entirely. He didn't want to sell the domain in the first place. He was never offered $15m (or any amount at all if we take this video to be the whole truth, except for the trade of nissancomputer.com). I would imagine he only said $15m to make a point that he was not interested in selling the domain. It's a classic case of people being bullied by large corporations through lawsuits. He registered the domain and pays the renewal fees, so it belongs to him. He is likely keeping it now purely on principle. Just because a mega corporation has billions of dollars and can pursue lengthly legal battle, they think the have the right to dictate anything. The average person stands no chance of getting their way even if it is morally or legally correct. Imagine spending $3 million dollars of your own money to keep something that's yours. A very similar situation is currently taking place between TH-camr Doug Demuro and Domino's pizza. He bought a wrecked Domino's DXP delivery car and restored it, and now the company is taking him to court for copyright infringement to get that car from him.
Nissan makes crap cars, my altima's CVT transmission went out at 80k miles
Mine is working just fine after 250k miles.
*forgets about the GTR*
The gtr is overrated
*forgets about the Z and the S-chassis*
Shirayone The S-chassis is dead, but the Z is fine.
Israel? What is that? Doesn’t exist sorry
Jalopnik has just turned into a regurgitation channel/website. REPOSTING OTHER PEOPLE'S CONTENT IS NOT JOURNALISM. You basically read someone else's article.