Shamsi Schools Sufi Kid | Speakers Corner

[@erwinsmith5381]

اللهم صل وسلم على سيدنا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه وسلم

[@L-Lawliet14]

If polytheists call you wahabi then be proud and wear this as a medal of honour.

[@farid-selefi]

@L-Lawliet14 yes exactly we are proud wahabis learning from teachings of imaam abdolWahaab, we are madhalees taking authentic islamic knowledge from sh.rabee
wa Allaah fools fools and again fools and lost. muslims nowadays blind,stupid and humiliation of the hereafter will be worser

[@yalcinisitan8822]

(4:64) (And tell them that) We never sent a Messenger but that he should be obeyed by the leave of Allah. If whenever they wronged themselves they had come to you praying to Allah for forgiveness, and had the Messenger prayed for their forgiveness, they would indeed have found Allah All-Forgiving, All-Compassionate.

[@عِمامة]

"The Masjids are for Allah, so do not invoke anyone besides Him."-Surah 72 verse 18

[@muadadam5901]

What's the context of the verse brother?
it is regarding the munafiqoon not being sincere in their Islam, and that if they only approached the messenger to se till the end of the verse, you want to generalise that, furthermore this is in his lifetime is there any indication of the ruling continuing after his death?
Finally, brother may Allah bless us all if you look at the authentic narrations from those who learnt this religion from the messenger, the companions you don't find any incident of them seeking forgiveness from him May- Allah praise him and bestow upon him mercy and blessings - some of the companions left Islam after his death and came back to Islam non of them went to his grave, what does this indicate? That none of them understood this verse to apply after his death, neither did he command us or encourage us to do so in any hadith, as for fabricated stories or dreams and anecdotes then we don't take that as a source in our religion

[@Goodborni]

@@muadadam5901 The verse your quoted is also has the tafseer which explains that it is in the Prophets (peace and blessing of Allah be unto him) presence, not in his grave. It's as Ustadh Abdurrahman Hassan said in his debate vs Asrar Rashid, which summs up this whole thing in a beautiful / sad statement
" You have one side telling you to pray to Allah only, while the other side is telling you to pray to someone else besides Allah to aid you. "
This sentence, should Inshallah resonate with the ones Allah intends to guide to the right path. May Allah guide us all and forgive our shortcomings.

[@SulMANIAC]

May Allah guide those in this comment section.
And when it is said to them, “Follow what Allāh has revealed,” they say, “Rather, we will follow that which we found our fathers doing.” Even though their fathers understood nothing, nor were they guided?
Sucessful sre those who seek the truth and uphold it even though it may displease many

[@IBN--KHALID]

Why do people want to do that? Why not just call upon Allah alone?

[@hakz795]

Because they accepted the da'wah of iblees

[@jtb229]

@@hakz795 and you’ve rejected the Quran and the actions of the Sahaba. This is what you call the dawah of iblis

[@T.T.T416]

@@IBN--KHALID hazrat umar sanctioned it
Sunan al-Darimi:
Narrated by Malik al-Dar:
A man came to the grave of the Prophet (
16) and said, "O
Messenger of Allah, ask for rain for your Ummah, for they have almost perished." Then the Prophet ( appeared to him in a dream and said, "Go to Umar and give him my greetings, and tell him that they will be given rain." The man went and told Umar. Umar wept and said, "O Allah, I will strive to the best of my ability until I d**"

[@arifihsan8372]

Who’s the creator of physical help? Alive man or Allah??

[@hakz795]

@@arifihsan8372
Nothing happens except by the will of Allah.
Asking someone alive who can hear you for help within his ability is not the same as asking a dead of someone who can't hear you for something that only Allah is capable of.
It's Shirk . It nullifies Tawheed. It opposes Lâ ilâha illa Allâh.

[@boxingmonthly]

he was referring to intersession? which Shamsi believes in?

[@SJ_vortex]

Everything is shirk and bid'ah to these lot. Be very careful what you utter about any Prophet (AS). This guy just shouts at everyone, keeps looking back at his mates for support, and thinks he always right. Have some respect Shamsi

[@MrNagios]

IDK what in Shamsi's heart, but for sure - who ever seeks higher help from other than Allah Almighty, then he went astray and committed shirk and he better make tauba for that big loss of him

[@AbuInayaAl-Athari-po3yj]

Allah literally himself said if you ask help from the dead that you are a mushrik who will go to hellfire forever

[@T.T.T416]

(4:64) (And tell them that) We never sent a Messenger but that he should be obeyed by the leave of Allah. If whenever they wronged themselves they had come to you praying to Allah for forgiveness, and had the Messenger prayed for their forgiveness, they would indeed have found Allah All-Forgiving, All-Compassionate.
I wonder why Muhammed SAW had to pray for Their forgiveness

[@YungShoe]

Sufi bots incoming😂

[@whitehotchocolate900]

These wahabi goons just want to distort practices of Shia and Sufi. Not one true Shia or Sufi believes in asking the dead for help. They pray to Allah SWT directly with the haq and blessings of the dead person and the blessing of their sacred burial places asking Allah to forgive them and asking for the shafa3h of these blessed prophets or imams on the day of judgment (who Allah SWT gives them this power).

[@MeneerWu]

Are you deaf and blind? The sufi in the video literally said it's permitted to ask Musa AS for help.

[@zaheen6614]

Shamsi has no respect for the prophet he is no one to talk and yes people were doomg tawassul through the things that were linked to the prophet

[@khayyamal9207]

Shorter way to do it is to say people commiting shirk
Calling upon other than Allah especially dead people is shirk khalas no matter how you want to turn and twist it call it tawasul or whatever you want

[@zaheen6614]

@khayyamal9207 so u don't call upon the prophet I sallah? U people really calling the prophet dead? Astahfirallah

[@Tinolg7]

@@khayyamal9207🤣😂🤡🤡🤡

[@altaghabunprod]

@@zaheen6614 Asalamualaykum.
No. You don't call upon the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم) in Salah.
Rather you ask Allah to send HIS (Allah's) peace and blessings upon the Prophet.
اللهم صلى على محمد و على ال محمد
"O Allah, send blessings upon Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم),
and upon the family of Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)."
We ask Allah to bless him, rather than calling upon him.
Allah said:
وَأَنَّ ٱلْمَسَـٰجِدَ لِلَّهِ فَلَا تَدْعُوا۟ مَعَ ٱللَّهِ أَحَدًا
"And the mosques are for Allah (Alone),
so invoke not anyone along with Allah." [Surah Jinn: Ayah 18]
We don't invoke others than Allah in the Masjids,
Nor at our homes or anywhere else.
And I can assure you - Yes, the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم) is very much dead in this Dunya (This world),
Yet he (صلى الله عليه و سلم) is alive in the Akhirah (The next life)
Allah said:
إِنَّكَ مَيِّتٌ وَإِنَّهُم مَّيِّتُونَ
"Verily, you (O Muhammad SAW) will die and verily, they (too) will die." [Surah Zumar: Ayah 30]
How could the prophet not be dead in this Dunya,
yet you can see his grave at Madinah?

[@zaheen6614]

@@altaghabunprod you say Ya nabi in tashahud what r u talking about

[@luvlybaluga]

Man I bet shamsi doesnt ask his friends for water when he thristy or for some kfc from the clerk at the restaurant or asking anyone for help when he needs it
... cuz accoridng to him asking for help would be shirk... How does he do it!

[@sadabsadka6204]

He doesn't ask for water from a dead person coz he knows they are unable to help.

[@TheTruthBehindThis]

Why do people of bidah always compare 2 different things. There is nothing wrong with asking a person that is alive for assistance. A dead person can't help you is Haram to nask him because he is dead.
Your example should be i bet shamsi ask his DEAD friend for water.

[@_A.F.K_]

You are not making dua to your friend for water lmao. See, believing that a dead person can listen to you and answer your duas when he's obviously incapable of hearing you is wrong

[@luvlybaluga]

@@TheTruthBehindThis where does it say it's ok to ask a living person and not a dead person? So you are saying living people can help? Isn't that "shirk" according to your "logic"?

[@luvlybaluga]

@@sadabsadka6204 proof from the Quran or Hadiths to support this "distinction" please.

[@user-eo1xp7nl5v]

People what is wrong with you guys. This guy is wahabi salafi najdi etc.. but here he has right just talk the haq dont defent somebody just because he is on your side

[@mdkhan3928]

🤷🏿‍♂️Yep.

[@asadullahmd.shamim6041]

whabi Najdi fitna is the main problem for Islamic spirituality.

[@Contabulator]

Random stranger- "can i breathe"?
Sunni- "no, thats shirk"

[@MrNagios]

BS from shirk lover

[@T.T.T416]

Not Sunni a wahabi

[@whitehotchocolate900]

Also so funny how these people who believe Allah SWT exists in time and space and has body parts. What a joke. These people and their spreading of fitnah is dying out with them.
May Allah bless us and unite us under the banner of Islam and let us come together to the truth with respect and not ignorance and corruption like Shamsi and his masters

[@AbdulBasit-in7hh]

Shamsi is very narrow minded. We can ask the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasallam for his shafa'a at his grave salallahu alayhi wasallam. We can address him salallahu alayhi wasallam directly with salam and ask him to make Dua for us and for his Shafa'a on Qiyama

[@_A.F.K_]

Where is the proof of that from the quran or sunnah? Is it not obligatory upon us to follow the quran or sunnah? Why did the sahaba nor the tabieen make dua at his grave? What makes you even think he can answer your duas when he's dead? Do you deny that he's dead, or do you think his spirit is alive and answering your prayers? Is there any proof or did he ever say that he will be alive in spirit and listen to you? He is dead just like a normal human being..why not make dua to Allah instead who is alive and listening to you..

[@khayyamal9207]

You're saying we can do all of that
What is your daleel and proof?
Did you take it from Quran? Did you take it from authentic Hadith? Or are you making up stuff, making bidah and commiting shirk?

[@AbdulBasit-in7hh]

@@khayyamal9207 bro please don't talk like you know what shirk and bida is. You lot are a bunch of parrots. Calm down and go rectify yourself before labelling people mushriks

[@L-Lawliet14]

Surat al fatiha debunks you and the polytheists.

[@AbdulBasit-in7hh]

@@L-Lawliet14 you have no knowledge or understanding whatsoever. Focus on rectifying yourself

[@T.T.T416]

He’s a wahabi what do y’all expect 😅😅

[@siyarjoya9655]

What is wahabi?

[@rvist1]

Sufis are shirking it out

[@zakialmahin7278]

@@siyarjoya9655a hard liner sect of Islam that is ultra traditional less tolerant originating from Saudi arabia

[@siyarjoya9655]

@@zakialmahin7278 They go against Quran and Sunnah?

[@Sajjad6th]

السلفيين يرمون اي شخص بالشرك
قبل حتى ان يفهموا معتقدهم بشكل كافي
السلفيين قمة الجهل وخرافاتهم لا تعد ولا تحصى مثل التجسيم لله وغيرها

[@Latifaendanny]

All profets are dead only isa didn't die.
But never pray or ask something of a dead profets all comes from god and god alone

[@leon17999]

wahabis man..

[@T.T.T416]

Fr

[@Unknown.h25]

Brother this got nothing to do with wahabis
You cannot ask for help from anyone other then Allah
Allah is the one that created Muhammad peace be upon him and it is Allah we ask for help
Not prophet Muhammad even though we love him with all our heart even prophet Muhammad said he’s nothing but a slave and messenger of god and he himself asked god for help .
This is the basics of our faith and whoever is praying and asking anyone other then Allah is literally preparing himself to burn in hell fire plain and simple

[@leon17999]

@@Unknown.h25 On the day of judgement please don't ask Mohammed pbuh for help, go direct to Allah.Good luck with that 👍

[@user-si6uk6mq1s]

@@leon17999 The Claim and Doubt of Rejecting Intercession
If he then says: Do you reject the Intercession of Allaah’s Messenger (ﷺ) and free yourself from (having any need of) it? Then say: I do not reject it, and nor am I free of having any need of it. Rather he is the one who will intercede and the one whose intercession will be granted. I hope in his intercession.
Understanding the Reality of Intercession in the Qur’aan
However, all intercession belongs to Allaah alone, as He the Most High said, “Say: To Allaah belongs all intercession”. (Zumar 39:44). And then it does not take place except after the permission of Allaah, just as He - the Mighty and Majestic - said, “Who can intercede with Him except after His permission?” (Baqarah 2:255).
And no one can actually intercede for anybody else except after Allaah has granted him permission regarding it, just as He the Mighty and Majestic said, “And they do not intercede except for the one with whom Allaah is pleased”. (Anbiyaa 21:28). And He, free is He from imperfections, is not pleased except with Tawheed, just as He, the Most High, said, “And whoever follows a religion other than Islaam (i.e. Tawheed), then never will it be accepted from him.” (Aali Imraan 3:85).
How Intercession Should be Asked For
Hence, when it is the case that all intercession belongs to Allaah alone, and that it cannot take place except
after His permission, and that the Prophet (ﷺ) or anybody else cannot intercede for anyone unless Allaah’s grants permission for this person, and Allaah - the Most High - does not grant permission except for the people of Tawheed, then it will have become clear to you that all intercession
belongs to Allaah alone and I seek it from Him alone. So I say, “O Allaah do not prevent me from being interceded for”, and “O Allaah accept his intercession for me” and what is similar to these words.
The Claim and Doubt of Asking From What Has Been Given To the Prophet ﷺ
If he then says, “The Prophet (ﷺ) has been given the right of intercession and I merely ask him from that which he has been given”. Then the answer is that Allaah has indeed given him the right of intercession but He has forbidden you from this (i.e. asking the Prophet (ﷺ) for it). So He, the Most High, said, “And do not call upon anyone besides Allaah”. (Jinn 72:18). So if you were to call upon Allaah [asking Him] that He should make him (i.e. the Prophet) intercede for you, then you have obeyed Him in His saying, “And do not call upon anyone besides Allaah”. (Jinn 72:18).

[@dustyzbrick9510]

@@leon17999😂😂 brother you sound just like the Christian’s you need to go through Jesus to make it to heaven you need to ask Jesus for help
“I am the way to the father”😂
Christian musljm😂😂 get outta here I make my dua only to Allah saw the way the prophet taught me to

[@RandomDNA321]

It is quite confusing when the Quran repeatedly tells you to worship Allah and pray to Him for help/forgiveness and everything else, but at the same time you are told to ask help from the Prophets who have passed on. Lots of opinions and differing views.

[@AbuInayaAl-Athari-po3yj]

There is no difference of opinion in this regard. Only a donkey says this. I dare you to give me a single ayah where we should ask help from rasul ﷺ after he passed away? Rather Allah said in the Quran whoever does this is a mushrik who will burn in hellfire forever

[@jtb229]

The Sahaba went to the Prophet ﷺ to ask Allah to forgive them for their sins. Why did they not go to Allah first? Why did they seek the intercession of the Prophet in all matters, like the blind man who sought healing and was taught the dua “Ya Muhammad” in his absence by the Prophet ﷺ? This was also taught by Uthman ibn Hunaith during the caliphate of Uthman ibn Affan.
The Prophet Musa interceded on our behalf on the night of Isra wa Mi’raj.
The boy doesn’t know what the door of a scholar looks like nor has he traveled and dedicated his life to studying the sciences of religion. He blurts out blasphemous statements when he has no knowledge of the matter. They claim the Ash’ari uses his intellect on the text, yet we have this loud-mouthed fool showing no example of its forbiddance. He has no usul, no principles or grounding in the science of the religion. His Arabic is weak, and his understanding is faulty.
Everything in this religion is halal until stated haram. You do not use your uneducated mind as proof, appealing to other fools to prove a point.
Proofs and References:
1. Intercession of the Prophet (ﷺ):
• Quranic Basis: Allah says, “We sent not a messenger, but to be obeyed, in accordance with the will of Allah. If they had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come unto thee and asked Allah’s forgiveness, and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah indeed Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.” (Surah An-Nisa, 4:64)
• Hadith: The blind man who came to the Prophet (ﷺ) is narrated in Sahih Muslim and other collections. The Prophet (ﷺ) taught him to say: “O Allah, I ask You and turn to You through my Prophet Muhammad, the Prophet of mercy; O Muhammad, I turn through you to my Lord.”
2. Practice during the Caliphate of Uthman ibn Affan:
• Narration by Uthman ibn Hunaith: This incident is recorded in works like those of At-Tabarani and demonstrates the continuity of seeking intercession through the Prophet (ﷺ) even after his physical departure.
3. Prophet Musa’s Intercession:
• Hadith of Isra and Mi’raj: In Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, the event of Isra and Mi’raj is detailed, where Prophet Musa advised the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) to ask Allah for a reduction in the number of daily prayers, ultimately benefiting the entire Ummah.

[@araftamim-mx3dw]

U r in denial brother... These are not dalail for asking help like christians ask from Jesus Alaikumussalam

[@T.T.T416]

@@araftamim-mx3dwlmao that’s really ur response after his thorough refutation 😂😂

[@jtb229]

@@T.T.T416 I’m not being funny brother but if upon reading this, you don’t see a practice from Sahaba, Sahih hadith, prophetic reference from the prophet Musa. Then it’s clear you don’t know anything. Look up what I’ve asked to see if the scholars of the past have used these evidences In their books. Men that outweigh shamsi across all boards in knowledge, righteousness and manners.

[@siyarjoya9655]

هذا هو الضلال المليون. Amazing with ahl al bida is that they come with very specific ahadeeth using their corrupt minds without mentioning how scholars explained them. No matter how many of their false beliefs you refute they will bring another 1000. Allah ta'ala send all messengers with one message of tawheed. Only a sick hearted person could have doubts about it

[@T.T.T416]

@@jtb229 ur replying to the wrong one brother 😅😅

[@tahaelnafati77]

And Shamsi should join Israel

[@Sajjad6th]

هههههههههههههههههههههههههههههه

[@dustyzbrick9510]

You pray to Mohammed how the Christian’s pray to Jesus and ask him for help. You will say “no I only pray to Allah and only ask Mohammed for help” and they also say “no I only pray to the father and ask Jesus for help”
Learn your religion and stop the shirk, this is the one sin Allah doesn’t forgive

[@Sajjad6th]

@@dustyzbrick9510
بالحقيقة يا اخي ان كل المسلمين لا يسألون محمد
لكنهم يسألون الله
كيف ؟... ببساطة هم يعتبرون محمد وجيها عند الله ويعتبرونه وسيلة الى الله
ركز , وسيلة وليس غاية
غايتنا هو الله ووسيلتنا هو محمد
قال تعالى
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَابْتَغُوا إِلَيْهِ الْوَسِيلَةَ [المائدة:35]
ومن الوسائل : الصلاة , العبادات الاخرى على شاكلتها وايضا النبي محمد صلوات الله عليه وعلى اله , وال بيته الكرام ,
فهم مصباح الهدى المنير ومن دونه يحل الظلام ولا يبقى ضوء الاسلام في الارض وقد جعلهم الله وسيلة لنا نصل بها اليه وافضل وسيلة
وهنا لا اشكال بذلك فنحن نطلب من الله لا نطلب من غيره ولكن بجاه ومقام ومكانة النبي وال البيت والصلاة والى اخره من الوسائل
الموضوع بسيط ولا يوجد شرك بذلك لكن السنة السلفية يحبون لو يعقدون البسائط

[@dustyzbrick9510]

@@Sajjad6th yes exactly what sura maidah says, that ayat you gave, be mindful of Allah and do not do what angers him

[@Sajjad6th]

@@dustyzbrick9510
are you Arab ?
I think you didn't understand what I have written
I'm sorry my frind , but its too long for me to write it with English 😂.
I thought google translate will work

[@leon17999]

brother you should be join the Christian diya...learn to speak English ,then debate.

[@sizosi3238]

You speak english because it’s the only language you know.
Shamsi speaks english because it’s the only language you know.

[@Abu_Abdullah790]

@@sizosi3238 what a slap

[@IbnAisharadiAllahHuAnha]

bro cooked him 😂😂​@@sizosi3238

[@dustyzbrick9510]

Keep praying to Mohammed saw let’s see how he embarrasses you on the day of judgment

[@leon17999]

@@dustyzbrick9510 Everyone knows we dont worship Mohammed pbuh.
I will ask for Mohammed pbuh help on the day of judgement, and i assume you don't need anyone's help you will be asking Allah direct for forgiveness.

[@Tinolg7]

Yet your leaders go you the west for help before they even ask Allah for help 🥴🥴

[@Bulb823]

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