You ever been to New York? People are constantly jumping signals to make it across the street in a gap. It's very easy to follow that cue and when you sense danger back pedal to safety. It happens all day every day. I see it on my rides.
It's a natural reaction. She is old for God's sake even young people do that. It's to go back to the safety of the sidewalk if you feel danger. She couldn't get back out in time. Nobody wants to get run off by a bike at highs speed on purpose. What are you trying to say she is trying to get run over on purpose so she can sue? So do we have followup if she is suing? I don't think she is suing so that theory goes out the window if the at is the case. This is just sad and tragic and could have been avoided if everyone use common sense. Good luck suing a bicycles don't carry insurance. You can try to sue them but good luck collecting. The bike was clearly most at fault. Both were at fault. She was already out in the crosswalk for a while before cyclist even ran the intersection and should have seen her and have slowed down. Cyclist assume wrong that the lady would keep walking and walk faster but lady was slow and hesitated and instead moved back when see saw and heard the cyclist yell wo wo wo.. Pedestrians have a right to move back and even turn around. It is your fault if you struck them anytime they are in crosswalk unless they just darted out of nowhere and doing it against a red light. Her light was about to be green but she stepped out too early before the green. However there were others who ever went ahead and weren't' struck and that should tell the cyclist to slow down as people are now crossing. Also when she was stuck it was green for her so she could be in there at that time so cyclist struck her while she had a green light. Cyclist should never have ran that light from the start. Cyclist took a risk trying to outrun a light and this is what happens. She was already in the crosswalk for some time already before being struck due to cyclist not paying attention or misjudging. You can clearly see cyclist eyes looking down at the the ground and not looking up until it was too late to stop. the very last second he looks up and sees her and it was too late. Cyclist was going faster so needs to scan further down the road. She couldn't see a crazy high speed cyclist coming that fast and even if she did she assume his ass would stop as pedestrians have right of way especially in crosswalks. Others people were crossing the crosswalk when she was crossing but they made it just in time. Cyclist almost ran the other dude over as well but the dude just made it into the sidewalks split seconds. The cyclist ran a red light. It was orange before the cyclist got to the intersection and turned red while the cyclist was still in the middle of the intersection means she ran a red and didn't' make it. Also if cyclist didn't say wow which startled the lady and made up step backwards. Just pass by and it would have fine but the startling her made her react the way she did. Sometimes the warning that is too late is the dangerous thing to do. Lady probably would never known a bike just passed by her. Shouting at her just make her freak out. I know that wasn't the cyclist's intentions to freak her out but that's exactly what it did which shouldn't be so surprising. How about slow down and pay attention to pedestrians in crosswalks then this could have been avoided. Cyclist never want to slow down because they don't want to lose their speed and momentum as it takes more energy to get back up to speed so always sipping around trying to dangerously beat lights.
It didn't help that pedestrian if front of him crossed against the light and he followed at first until he saw the red light and stopped right in front of the bike.
Conor, this is no excuse. It doesn't matter if you're driving a car, riding a bike, or walking, you should never blindly do something because you know that you're right when there's a risk that the other guy could do something a little unexpected (and possibly wrong). I've watched too many videos of cyclists who get right hooked because they stupidly think that because they're in the right that therefore the car won't turn right. And when they do make the right turn (wrongly), who pays the real price? The cyclist! In this case, the cyclist should NOT have tried running the yellow light. The cyclist should have slowed down much sooner when he saw pedestrians who might step into the cross walk. It doesn't matter that he was in the right. He created this situation by not being more cautious and respectful of others who might just make a mistake. Never assume that the other guy will do exactly what they should do, and you'll avoid a lot of these situations.
She didn't randomly stop and back up. She saw the other numbnuts coming at her and attempted to avoid him, only to be careened by the other. The light turned YELLOW long before these two pedal pals got to the intersection. And, the light turned RED before they actually entered the intersection. The bicyclist is clearly at fault and BOTH bicyclists (i.e, the one with the helmet cam too) were operating in a recklessly manner.
Cyclist was in the intersecting as the light turned red = perfectly legal Pedestrian on crosswalk with red hand = illegal This woman was an idiot and broke the law. She paid the price.
A S the biker thought she was going to keep walking forward, there was no way he would have known that she was going to stop. It is a little cruel, but she's a lawbreaker. I would say the same thing about anyone else who did this. I dont have double standards unlike some people.
I mean I don't claim to know the law in other countries, but the light was red for the cyclist, when i was taught to drive you're told on an amber light to prepare to stop, not rush through before the red. But also in my country the white stripes on the road denote a pedestrian crossing on which pedestrians have right of way, but from reading comments that dosent seem to be how the law works in the country this was shot in.
@@Drood. the lights on the poles at the corners of the intersection all had red hands on them, meaning that it is illegal for pedestrians to be on the white lines, or the crosswalk. This was shot in new York city, and I've seen firsthand people almost being killed because they were in the crosswalk on a red hand. The yellow light in the US is a bit more leniant, as it means if you can make it through the intersection safely, you can go. Also, if you are halfway or more into the intersection and the light turns red, it is legal by all accounts because you can't just stop in the middle of the intersection lol. As you can see in the video, the cyclist involved in the accident was already fully in the intersection, as he was fully over the solid line that shows where the intersection begins when the light turned red. I took drivers education about a year and a half ago and still have my handbook so I have that for reference too lol
No the cyclists blew the light. Yellow means you need to be slowing down, which they clearly could've done because the light turns red as the camera man enters the intersection on the backwheel of the pink shirt.
Gary Rowe - You must mean: not to cycle into people crossing the road against the red without looking in the direction of oncoming traffic, who then notice you coming, freeze, and then start to back up, into your path, as you try to avoid them. She was behaving unlawfully and unpredictably.
If only they'd recognised that there might be a risk of hitting the person, and used their brakes ... Yes the person should not have been there, but as an adult in control of a machine on the road you have a responsibility to act like an adult.
If only the woman had not chosen to cross the road on a red light, well before the other light was even yellow, endangering herself and others, i.e. the oncoming cyclists. She didn't even look for oncoming traffic. What if there had been a car coming? I highly doubt the cyclist was behaving childishly or irresponsibly. He was acting within the law, and if you look closely, his hands *were* on his brakes all the way through the intersection (which he entered lawfully on a yellow), and he attempted to stop, once he saw the woman was backing up. It looks like he tried an evasive action to prevent a collision. Cyclists are at risk, too, of being hit and crushed by cars. They don't need pedestrians acting stupid.
Yes, the pedestrian should have looked towards the oncoming traffic. That's obvious. However, you say you highly doubt the cyclist was driving irresponsibly when he kept steering his bike directly at a pedestrian while peddling at 15mph steadily across most of the intersection; he only stopped peddling about 1.5 seconds from hitting the pedestrian, and then braked far too late to avoid hitting the pedestrian. That was irresponsible, and showed woefully inadequate judgement. And yes, the pedestrian made their mistakes too. Lawfully entering a junction does not mean you abdicate responsibility for your actions. The fact someone has their hands covering their brakes is meaningless if they keep peddling and not slowing down until an accident is unavoidable. Looking like you are trying an evasive action to prevent a collision is meaningless when you do it so late it is totally ineffective. It is the responsibility of drivers & cyclists to be in control of their vehicle, and pedestrians - even those who have made a mistake - cannot magically disappear. The cyclist reacted far too late for what was in front of them, and that is irresponsible. As an adult, you have to take responsibility for your actions, and the cyclist's actions caused him to collide with a person directly in front of him. Why keep harping on about the mistakes the pedestrian made without accepting that the cyclist made a pretty fundamental error as well?
She stepped back because she couldn't cross as a car was coming in the other side. Then she didn't realise the bike was coming hence why she took a step back
@@KimchiYeo if shes blind why is she crossing the road while there are cars, bikes and a red light? Get someone to help you cross the street or a guide dog then...
Samantha uwu Sees pedestrian activity at crosswalk across from yellow light, what do you do? A. Don’t enter the intersection B. Slow down to give time to react C. Steer the bike to avoid collision D. Make no effort whatsoever to prevent avoidable crash and plow down little old lady.
I’m pretty sure the situation at 2:14 was the pedestrians fault. The sign was red, meaning it was not your turn to go. And then, she stayed right in the line of the crosswalk.
I think he/she tried to back up cause the pedestrian light turned red. And well. It's also the pedestrian's fault because why would he/she cross a street if it was warning you to turn red? Either way. It's just an accident.
@@jonnybirchyboy1560 Ye and when the cyclist passed when the light was yellow for a while. I would say that cyclist is fucked up. It's just same logic as a car, if you see a pedestrians crossing, regardless the light you have to slow the fuck down.
The crosswalk was showing the red hand, meaning she was jay walking through the crosswalk. the cyclist went through during a yellow, it turned red but he was already in it. The pedestrian stopped when the cyclists were going through, she might have realized she was illegally crossing a road, but thats what negligence is. Hopefully she was okay in the end, and i hope the courts solved this issue
2:17 in an accident, never start with "I am sorry" even if you think you might be wrong, don't be that nice. Unfortunately, that can be used in court as admission of fault.
PATRICK STAR Easy to say that but in a split second it was a reaction on her part and no idea what he was going to do. Both were wrong but he had plenty of time to see her and didn’t even slow down on seeing people on the crosswalk
Anne Eggebrecht he also had a yellow light, so he should have stopped. He also should have stopped when seeing people in the cross walk. Both parties were at fault here.
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Light was yellow before he entered the intersection but the pedestrian was jaywalking. Both were wrong but the cyclist was driving a vehicle and as such has to yield to pedestrians even if they’re in the wrong. My conclusion: pretty much everyone in NYC have cranial/rectal inversion coupled with a sense of entitlement and a secret deathwish. This is why I avoid road cycling.
If you go to 2:16, you can see that the bikers are already in the intersection and the light is still yellow.... The crosswalk hand for the pedestrian, however, is still red..
To all you hypocrites in the comment section, the light is clearly yellow, even when they're in the middle of the junction. If you pause at 2:16, you can see the pedestrian light is still red, end of!
both of them are in wrong, this is sure. But if he look straight forward still can avoid the collision. I ride motorcycle..and I know how pedestrian are stupid, but certain things have to be avoided because it's a waste of time. Insurance, Police, Ambulance are waste of time! and Waste of Money
Pedestrians don’t have the right of way when they have the little glowing red hand sign even if they’re in a crosswalk. It’s an intersection in a city, not a dirt road in BFE jfc.
Shelby Elizabeth listen to them getting boners off kids bicycles.. then proceeding to run a fragile women over haha, on my motorbike ive had close calls but always stopped an paid attention, these guys seem so childish an ignorant
The fact that about 4 other people were well into crossing and she had barely started tells me the pedestrian sign is irrelevant. They more likely ran the light. Either way they saw people crossing and should have seen her if they were paying attention.
Dude, the woman should watch signs and not follow other people that’s how you don’t get hurt. Yes, he had a yellow light but it wasn’t red, the crosswalk sign was at paused for pedestrians to not walk so when you compare the two it was her fault. Facts don’t care about your feelings
@@MissJuneBennett it was still yellow and the pedestrians were all over the place. The cyclist should have slowed down but the pedestrians were clearly jaywalking too. Both were at fault IMO
@@andreashoppe1969 Pedestrians have the right of way, does not matter of they were "all over the place" they have the right to cross the street. If they are jaywalking then yes that is wrong too but he has to obey the traffic laws and stop at red lights/stopsigns.
If I know light on the other end of the street is about to Turn red (which means mine is about to Turn green, but not yet), Do I start moving forward? Even if my lights is still red
Man this comment section is toxic. Honestly both are at fault, the pedestrian should not have been crossing but the cyclist could have done a lot to avoid this too.
Exactly. I kinda also don't understand how the cyclist didn't see the pedestrian at all even though she was straight in front of him for a long time as he was approaching her.
If I lived in a grid city like that I'd agree. I live in a rural town though. Public transport is useless and it would take an hour to walk to any place worth going to. So I ride my moped, where before I rode my bicycle. And despite significantly less traffic, I still come across more assholes than I'd like.
Yep. I think so. Pedestrian seemed to 'freeze' and not move out the way...and cyclist also sort of 'froze' and didn't take appropriate action quickly enough. Not a good idea to stand your bike up against someone's car either!
This is a perfect example of why so many people think cyclist are douche canoes. Yelling to keep a 6 foot buffer when passing them, then going around a pedestrian with less than 1 step clearance and not slowing down.
@@nateevans6456 If there is a yellow light you must stop if it is *safe* to do so. You're not allowed to go fast through through it. Its a warning sign. Do research. If yellow doesn't mean that in America you guys are just uneducated swine. "Steady yellow lights signal that thelight will turn red soon. So, you must either come to a safe stop before the crosswalk, or, if you *can't stop safely*, proceed with *caution* through the intersection before the light turns red." There's a quote from a Drivers learning site.
That were both at fault. He was trying to make it across on a yellow than turned red as he got there. The pedestrians were walking across on a red light.
@@izzamenezz7459 My Biology1 teacher back in highschool educated my class, on the matter of men's brains having on average better spacial proportioning than women. Thats probably the whole reason the woman thought she was backing up and providing enough space (but wasnt). The teacher was a woman by the way.
Tony Pena the cyclist was already in the intersection as the light turned red, he was fine. The woman walked on a red hand, she was breaking the law. The woman is at fault.
I'll have to say I wish I was in a city were they were food that I can order from were I'm from there is 4 restaurant in my town I gotta drive 2hours to get to a walmart I have nothing around my area be grateful of what u have man some people would switch lives in seconds
aah cycling in the city... love that feeling of being between life and death at every crossing, cars, trams, busses or pedestrians...you never know what could bring you down
Just my opinion Eugene but the cyclist who had the collision with the ped.Would it not have helped reduce the chance of colliding if he approached the crossing slower?
ShortieLeeroy the only problem here is the pedestrian crossing against a red signal. If the cyclist light was green then the pedestrians had red the whole time and should not have entered the crosswalk.
Yet the light was not green when the idiot on the bike rode through, he could at least have tried to avoid the pedestrian, even if he had right of way that does not give him the right to ride into someone. The idiot on the bike could clearly see three pedestrians crossing.
I think he expected her to keep walking so he was moving towards where she was, she changed her mind and stopped which is what lead to the accident I believe. Not justifying his actions, just playing devil's advocate.
Laura Fradkoff I feel bad because the only reason she got hit was because she DID look. She was gonna cross, then saw a car coming from the other side and backed up
Doesn't even check to see if the woman is alright, just watches then cycles off. Completely different culture to most places in the UK where everyone would be asking if she was okay.
whaaat, don't think so. The UK is awful for no one batting an eyelid in situations and just keeping to themselves. The guy involved was dealing with it, you don't need to have a big crowd of people. She was fine, the guy who hit her had obvs spoken to her, she was in the wrong. He could have anticipated her move perhaps but if you walk into the road on a red thats your risk.
@@Anna-nc5xd In London perhaps, but most of the UK tends to be quite good. As long as it is not emotional pain! Haha. There is a scene in an old comedy 'The Plank's where the main character falls overs with a plank (how very surprising) and everyone comes to help, quite amusing. But yes, you're right there were people there to help in this situation.
@@ThomasCollectables no one would give a shit if I fell down the stairs from being sick or dizzy I just stand up and walk away like the day is normal,this woman was dumb as shiiiiiiiit who stand in the middle of the road /bile lane when she could have kept crossing...
I rather slow down than have to wait for the police. I don’t bike fast because u can get doored, hit someone, someone can hit u etc. When bikers go fast they don’t leave any reaction time. When it’s busy i wait for a green light because a car can turn on yellow as well and hit a cyclists. Every situation on the road has to be treated differently and cyclists bike the same way no matter what’s going on.
It's easy to say that, but when you go months without an incident and you bike on most days, you tend to take little things for granted, and then you end up with an unexpected door in your thigh and your shoulder out of place. At least I did. :)
Wow, when that other cyclists said that the bike was like a woman, it does whatever you tell it to, I was generally concerned about that man’s mental health...like bruh why would you say that, women aren’t objects...
I just watched the vid in slow motion, that cyclist was a long way away from that intersection when that light turned yellow. He had plenty of time to stop.
Cyclist had the right of way. The hand was stop when she was in the intersection, which means she crossed during the countdown, which means do not cross, but continue if you are already in the crosswalk. She’s in the wrong.
Nope, it's a judgment call. At least it is here. If the cyclist COULD have stopped or if he could have been more aware, he will have to take some of the blame. Insurance companies can do that. They can assign, for example, 70% of the blame to one of the victims and 30% to the other, or balance it any other way they want to. The officer's judgment when writing out tickets will affect the decision but won't be the whole story to the insurance adjusters.
Short answer: Yes it's the Garmin camera Long answer: Garmin Virb 30 Ultra is the camera. It has GPS and if enabled it will record Gmetrix. Then you use Garmin Virb to import the videos from camera (as opposed to just copy and pasting them on your computer) and it imports the Gmetrix. From there you can edit it and export it and upload it to youtube. But I export it to Premiere Pro for further editing.
Idk about NYC, but In Canada this would be the cyclist’s fault. You are required to stop at an amber light if it is safe to do so. He had ample time to stop, but went through anyways. In Ontario, you are also not supposed to enter an intersection while a pedestrian is inside, whether the light is green or not. The light changed to red as he entered the intersection, further evidencing this. Yes, she shouldn’t have been crossing, but the cyclist is legally at fault.
In austrlia if there are white verticall lines on the ground, the pedestrian has right of way.but they are not at intersections. If the light is yellow you can go through.
林冠仰Joseph Lin The US isn't the same, a pedestrian cannot enter the roadway when their walk light is red. And another thing is if you're in the intersection when the light turns red you're free and clear, but only when you're in the intersection at least in NYC you are. The pedestrian is completely at fault for jaywalking.
Skylar about? They were already in the road, and their light barely turned white when the guy actually hit that woman. They simply didn't care about the cars in the street and walked on a red light because... Eh?
The Balloon Jin Lets Go In BST No they were not, there was plenty of time before the light went red. When you see a yellow light you must stop if you can and they certainly could
Ni Pr i was referring to the pedestrians. They said they were about to enter the road, but they already did and their light turned white when the cyclist hit the woman. They were all just ignoring the rules. And sure they COULD yield to a yellow, but they don't have to and they were going fast enough to have been fine if those pedestrians didn't decide to risk their lives for no reason.
The Balloon Jin Lets Go In BST In Germany you have to stop when it’s possible and in this case it would definitely have been possible. Like I said if this would go to court, in Germany both would have 50% guilt in the accident
Ni Pr well this isn't germany, and they aren't required to, sorry to say. They wouldn't have caused any accidents if those pedestrians didn't decide to jaywalk because the light would not have turned for a few seconds for the other cars and pedestrians. Basically, its the issue of why that lady stopped in the street or was in the street. From his line of sight, he saw he would've passed the pedestrian unharmed, and if they can walk whenever they please with no regard to cars or bikes then the bike really doesn't need to avoid them with such a large gap like people claim they do. If she had continued, it would've been fine. If she'd followed the law, it would've been fine. But she didn't. It's on her.
Oh shut up ffs what damage is a bike gonna do to a car you absolute moron. Stop trying to look cool by pointing out one little thing that doesn’t make a difference to anything. Stfu and get a life.
Don't see the big deal. I've done it in my car before: the drops have bar tape. A road bike touching points is always the rear tire (not rim, but tire), the seat, or dropbar(or dual lever, which is rubberized).
Dude I'm a cyclist in the city, stronger up a hill than any of you or your buddies no doubt. When you see a woman crossing the street slow down, even if shes wrong, it ain't worth hurting some one. And then putting this on you tube, like you were violated? What's the matter with you
Bruno That gives the cyclist NO RIGHT to run her over. His only fear was hitting that red light, not about hitting the woman. We all see her standing in front of him (including you and the two people who liked your comment), and he still ran her over. She made a mistake, but he made the wrong decision.
The pedestrian is run over the exact moment the light goes green for her. At this exact moment by no means a vehicle can be in the crossing area, less at speed. The recording guy even ends up crossing.
you say "right of way", but the light was amber when he entered them and changed to red as he was less than half way.... suppose a cardriver had done the same bad driving coming across the lights.... dead cyclist........ but of course someone else would be at fault..... its never the cyclists fault!!
Subbie Jon red means stop. If a yellow light is in front of you then you still have the right of way. Quite a simple concept as your light doesn't turn yellow while giving any other traffic a green. Lights work as follows, green light allows traffic to move, light turns yellow, light turns red. If you are in the intersection then you don't stop when it turns red. Then there is a delay of an average of 2 seconds before the next cycle of lights change to allow another direction of traffic to proceed. Traffic code clearly say you may proceed when a light turns green after yielding to traffic already in the intersection and if safe. This concept applies to both the vehicle and pedestrian traffic equally. The pedestrian here entered the crosswalk illegally with a red crossing signal. While there is no question that the cyclist could have stopped he entered the intersection before red. The pedestrian was about to walk into the path of the cyclist that recorded it, then stopped and back steps right into the path of the other cyclist. At the moment of impact you can clearly see that the crosswalk is still displaying a red hand. Sorry but no matter who was in the crosswalk, bike, pedestrian, skateboard, etc they are in the wrong. The cyclist may have pushed the yellow but the pedestrian ran a long stale red. She is at fault here.
Subbie Jon red means stop. If a yellow light is in front of you then you still have the right of way. Quite a simple concept as your light doesn't turn yellow while giving any other traffic a green. Lights work as follows, green light allows traffic to move, light turns yellow, light turns red. If you are in the intersection then you don't stop when it turns red. Then there is a delay of an average of 2 seconds before the next cycle of lights change to allow another direction of traffic to proceed. Traffic code clearly say you may proceed when a light turns green after yielding to traffic already in the intersection and if safe. This concept applies to both the vehicle and pedestrian traffic equally. The pedestrian here entered the crosswalk illegally with a red crossing signal. While there is no question that the cyclist could have stopped he entered the intersection before red. The pedestrian was about to walk into the path of the cyclist that recorded it, then stopped and back steps right into the path of the other cyclist. At the moment of impact you can clearly see that the crosswalk is still displaying a red hand. Sorry but no matter who was in the crosswalk, bike, pedestrian, skateboard, etc they are in the wrong. The cyclist may have pushed the yellow but the pedestrian ran a long stale red. She is at fault here and should consider herself lucky I was a cyclist and not a car.
First off just to clear up any confusion for "our mates" a crossed the pond there are NO amber lights in New York, all traffic lights are red on the top, yellow in the middle, and green at the bottom. The video clearly shows ALL of you should have gotten tickets, 2:16, there is no if ands buts or excuses this cyclists is 100% responsible for the accident,
What I found amusing watching these bike videos is that when they're the ones hit they show up to show their fellow biker support by beings vocal if not loud but when they're the ones at fault they keep their distance and not get involved. Wow
The pedestrian was walking on a red yield / stop walking sign while the cyclist had right of way. How is the cyclists fault? If a cyclist did the same, there would be no valid defence, what can one expect when entering an intersection on a red?
The guy sees people are crossing and tries to thread the needle through them. If she didn't step back there would be no collision, but the cyclist creates this situation. His fault
Pedestrian ignored traffic law, Cyclist didn't. She created the danger and CAUSED the accident. It'd be no different if it were a car and she jumped out in the middle of the street. Thank goodness you're no traffic court judge. @@P07AT0
Josh Dumas No, cause he saw she was crossing, if you drive a car a ese somebody crossing, even with red ligh,t you slow down to see what she is gonna do, you don't keep going and if something happens... Oh, it's her fault. Rules should be followed, but common sense comes first, we are all humans and make mistakes, that should be engrained in our heads, if you see anything abnormal on the road, just slow down, it's not that difficult and in this case the cyclist would have arrived probably 2 or 3 seconds later to his destination
Im not arguing moral grounds. Of course common sense comes before "BUT THE LAW SAID I HAD RIGHT OF WAY." However, in a court, she'd be ruled the wrong one. All im saying, bud. @@Ivan-xw9tt
@@Ivan-xw9tt you cannot legally cross like that. And to be straight to the point: many idiots cross without checking to see if the road is clear. The cyclist cannot stop on a whim. Pedestrians need to watch out before crossing.
They didn't even slow down, when seconds earlier people were crossing. This was completely avoidable by the cyclist if he slowed down as he should have. Legally it might not be his fault in the US, but he IS responsible. I'm willing to argue that both of them are responsible, but the cyclist was the one that yould have avoided the collision, since the pedestrian was in clear view for him. He was going way too fast aproaching the crosswalk. If the lights are green, and the cyclist goes on, but there are pedestrians on the road, he just hits them, cuz the light was green. He's still at fault, he could have slowed down.
Ádor Cserőd that's not how road laws work...that's why there's red lights and green lights. You can't say "even if the lights green and there's people crossing they should slow down" she is clearly breaking a law...if anyone could cross whenever they wanted..more people would get hit like that
Christian Rivera That is correct but laws are not equal to what’s happening in real life. If I’m in a car going 60mph and someone crosses the road in front of me I’m not going to keep accelerating just because the person shouldn’t be there. It’s usually people who think like this who make traffic worse because they always insist on their rights instead of just adjusting to the situation. I‘m not saying laws are unnecessary, I’m just saying that they cannot always be projected on real life situations.
he was going 16 mph and had the light. this could have been avoided by not jaywalking, looking before crossing the street and not turning back while in the middle of the lane.
How can someone hit an elderly woman that is not moving? The bicyclist makes no attempt to steer away or apply the brakes. All of this just to prove his point.
He didn't abuse the police nor did they run a red light, but he should have slowed when it became clear how close he was going to pass to that woman. She should not have been in the crosswalk but he should have put more effort into avoiding her.
A thought...If I drove my car to work flat out, I would probably lose control at some point and kill someone. Why is it OK for (some) cyclist commuters to ride flat out? if they're on their limit they'll probably make a mistake at some point too. Some of these TH-cam videos scare me to death, worrying about the pace these guys travel at in heavy traffic, especially in London, where it's a lot tighter.
Please can someone explain to me...how is it ok for cyclists to get annoyed when someone comes in their lane yet cyclists think its okay to get in and out, through and around other vehicles? You cant have the best of both worlds...
Have no idea where cyclists head was except for "I am not a licenced vehicle therefore I can ignore all stop signs, lights, right of way, and general good common sense. No attempt to read the road, no attempt to slow down and no attempt to avoid collision. In conclusion this incident reinforces the general perception that cyclists are unpredictable at best and irresponsible at worst.
rick allen: *Have no idea where cyclists head was except for "I am not a licenced vehicle therefore I can ignore all stop signs, lights, right of way, and general good common sense.* So in other words, you think cyclists are worse than drivers in follow rules and behave worse? If so, let's see at some studies and research about this: *New study shows that "scofflaw cyclists" don't break the law any more than drivers* "It is a standard trope that cyclists ignore red lights, blow through stop signs and generally ignore all the traffic rules that govern cars and are not very nice to law abiding pedestrians either. People on bikes are often told that "If cyclists want legitimacy, they should obey the rules of the road”. And indeed, a new study find that cyclists do break the rules fairly often. But guess what? So do drivers and pedestrians, just as often." "When it comes to rule-breaking bicyclists, one popular opinion is that if bicyclists want to be taken seriously as road users, they need to obey the rules of the road like everyone else. Our survey results and the literature review both suggest that drivers break the rules of the road just as much, if not more, than bicyclists. The other common argument is that cities need to step up bicycle law enforcement to improve safety. While bicyclists are certainly not immune from causing harm, the literature suggests lower societal costs and safety risks associated with lawbreaking bicycling as compared to lawbreaking driving. Drivers speed, roll through stop signs, park in bike lanes, and run lights that have just turned red while still considering themselves to be law-abiding citizens. Despite research showing a causal link between such driving behaviors and increased crash rates, injuries, and fatalities, society continues to see these behaviors as rational decisions within our transportation system, other than in the relative minority of places that take Vision Zero as more than a buzzword. Our results suggest that bicyclists seem to be making the same rational choices." www.treehugger.com/bikes/new-study-shows-scofflaw-cyclists-dont-break-law-any-more-drivers.html *Cyclists are just as law-abiding as drivers* www.spokesman.com/blogs/transportation/2015/jul/15/cyclists-are-just-law-abiding-drivers/ *94% of bike riders wait at red lights, study finds * bikeportland.org/2013/06/25/94-of-bikes-wait-at-red-lights-study-finds-89025 *Cyclists are a bunch of scofflaws!* *Response:* No more than anyone else-and you don’t like us when we follow the rules. *The Lowdown:* Yes, cyclists break traffic laws. So do redheads, Methodists, white suburban dads, and municipal bus drivers. We-people, that is-break traffic laws every day by bike, foot, and car. For instance, a study by the Society of Automotive Engineers found that in 2012, the nation’s 200 million drivers [now 210 million] use their turn signals just 48 percent of the time. www.bicycling.com/training/a20042771/the-best-responses-to-anti-cyclist-claims/ *Jumping red lights* •In 2016(GB),11,783 cycles were involved in incidents in which a police officer assigned one or more ‘contributory factors’(CFs) to at least one of the parties at the scene. Officers assigned 138CFs for disobeying an automatic traffic signal to the cycle, i.e. to just over 1% of them - about the same percentage as it was for cars. •In 2012, disobeying a traffic signal did not appear in the top ten most commonly occurring contributory factors allocated to a pedal cycle in fatal incidents involving at least one cyclist. •A TRL study for DfT found that disobeying a traffic signal did not feature in the top ten contributory factors attributed to cyclists in fatal, serious or slight collisions from 2005 - 2007 in Great Britain. Disobeying ‘Give Way’ or ‘Stop’ signs or markings contributed to 5% fatal, 4% serious and 3% slight collisions - this factor was bottom of the top ten list. www.cyclinguk.org/sites/default/files/document/2018/01/cyclists-behaviour-and-law_4m_brf.pdf *Stats on Cycling Through Red Lights* The report concludes A total of 7502 cyclists were surveyed across all of the sites. Of these, an average of 16% violated red lights, whilst the remaining 84% obeyed the traffic signals. Therefore it can be concluded that the majority of cyclists do not ride through red lights. However, the 16% that do must be discouraged from ignoring traffic signals. Accidents at Red Lights. *Quite revealing is the statistic* “Of pedestrians injured in London in a collision caused by red light jumping only 4% involve cyclists, whereas 71% occur when a car driver jumps a red light and 13% when a motorcyclist does. As an organisation representing those two road user groups, CTC suggests IAM ought to call for more road traffic policing to enforce traffic laws, rather than highlighting red light jumping by cyclists.” CTC From media coverage, it often feels running red lights is primarily a violation by cyclists. But, just 4% of accidents suggests that the danger posed by motor cars is much greater. cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/4756/cycling/stats-red-lights/
With that many people in the crosswalk, it seems like the common sense move would have been to wait at the light and proceed on the green. Wether you have the ROW or not, pedestrians are vulnerable just like the people riding them. We all have to look out for each other and not just focus on your own thing excluding others and being essentially inconsiderate of their safety and other essential human rights. This lady should have looked if she was just going to walk out, but nobody here truly deserved to impact anything. *Think of others - if we all did that we wouldn’t have to think of ourselves.*
Bikers in NY City do not have any common sense. I have no idea what is in their brains. Bikers get killed and people get killed by bikers all year round in NY City and more in the summer. It is the same story over and over. The worse are the tourist coming to NY City and riding bikes on the streets of NY City. ...sorry folks just in Manhattan could be over 10 million people. There are biking areas off the main traffic roads that is more reasonable
Damn man that is sad. When you get to that age and something like that happens. That fall is going to affect her for the rest of her life, she will never fully heal. Not to beat you guys up, just be careful I had a cyclist hit my dog. It took everything in me not to get violent the guy almost killed my dog.
So true. Yet the uploader's first thought was to offer his video evidence and his support to his fellow cyclist. He didn't even care to offer the video footage to the pedestrian _or even acknowledge her._ I can see how this shit happens. If you cycle every day among vehicles you're going to feel vulnerable and defensive, which you have to counter by being assertive, and perhaps even a little aggressive. I think the uploader's so used to asserting his right of way, or indulging in righteous indignation when other road users encroach on that, that he totally forgot how vulnerable pedestrians are. Always remember the Golden Rule and look out for one another regardless of who's in the right, and when you see an old lady crossing the road, _even if she's jaywalking,_ *you yield* lest you inflict a life-changing injury. It isn't rocket surgery!
Jose Martin Believe it or not, most cyclists do not possess superhuman reaction times. If your dog runs out in front of a cyclist then it is your fault for not keeping it under control. Obviously if the cyclist went out of his way to hit your dog then thats a whole different matter, but something tells me thats not what happened...
one simple fact people seem to be forgetting whether you are in a car or motorbike or bike its up to you to watch ahead and anticipate hazards and adjust your speed hazard awareness basic highway code
Keep pressing 4 :)
You're sick! ... I like it :)
Cycling in America, lol.
See some Dutch cycling videos, I bet that will cheer you up :)
Holland1994D i am dutch😊
HAX?!
SugarTomAppleRoger dat jij niet kan fietsen betekent niet dat iedereen gevaarlijk is
did anyone else see her stop walking and take a step back so that she WOULD be hit? crazy
I think maybe so she wouldn't get hit by the cyclist with the go-pro
She was also looking in the wron direction before crossing
You ever been to New York? People are constantly jumping signals to make it across the street in a gap. It's very easy to follow that cue and when you sense danger back pedal to safety. It happens all day every day. I see it on my rides.
Jimbo Holo Exaclty she was looking in the other direction which shows she didnt step back with intention to get hit
It's a natural reaction. She is old for God's sake even young people do that. It's to go back to the safety of the sidewalk if you feel danger. She couldn't get back out in time. Nobody wants to get run off by a bike at highs speed on purpose. What are you trying to say she is trying to get run over on purpose so she can sue? So do we have followup if she is suing? I don't think she is suing so that theory goes out the window if the at is the case. This is just sad and tragic and could have been avoided if everyone use common sense. Good luck suing a bicycles don't carry insurance. You can try to sue them but good luck collecting. The bike was clearly most at fault. Both were at fault. She was already out in the crosswalk for a while before cyclist even ran the intersection and should have seen her and have slowed down. Cyclist assume wrong that the lady would keep walking and walk faster but lady was slow and hesitated and instead moved back when see saw and heard the cyclist yell wo wo wo..
Pedestrians have a right to move back and even turn around. It is your fault if you struck them anytime they are in crosswalk unless they just darted out of nowhere and doing it against a red light. Her light was about to be green but she stepped out too early before the green. However there were others who ever went ahead and weren't' struck and that should tell the cyclist to slow down as people are now crossing. Also when she was stuck it was green for her so she could be in there at that time so cyclist struck her while she had a green light. Cyclist should never have ran that light from the start. Cyclist took a risk trying to outrun a light and this is what happens. She was already in the crosswalk for some time already before being struck due to cyclist not paying attention or misjudging. You can clearly see cyclist eyes looking down at the the ground and not looking up until it was too late to stop. the very last second he looks up and sees her and it was too late. Cyclist was going faster so needs to scan further down the road. She couldn't see a crazy high speed cyclist coming that fast and even if she did she assume his ass would stop as pedestrians have right of way especially in crosswalks. Others people were crossing the crosswalk when she was crossing but they made it just in time. Cyclist almost ran the other dude over as well but the dude just made it into the sidewalks split seconds.
The cyclist ran a red light. It was orange before the cyclist got to the intersection and turned red while the cyclist was still in the middle of the intersection means she ran a red and didn't' make it. Also if cyclist didn't say wow which startled the lady and made up step backwards. Just pass by and it would have fine but the startling her made her react the way she did. Sometimes the warning that is too late is the dangerous thing to do. Lady probably would never known a bike just passed by her. Shouting at her just make her freak out. I know that wasn't the cyclist's intentions to freak her out but that's exactly what it did which shouldn't be so surprising. How about slow down and pay attention to pedestrians in crosswalks then this could have been avoided. Cyclist never want to slow down because they don't want to lose their speed and momentum as it takes more energy to get back up to speed so always sipping around trying to dangerously beat lights.
Traffic light at 2:26 was yellow. Pedestrian crossing light at 2:29 was red. Pedestrian's fault.
It didn't help that pedestrian if front of him crossed against the light and he followed at first until he saw the red light and stopped right in front of the bike.
Conor, this is no excuse. It doesn't matter if you're driving a car, riding a bike, or walking, you should never blindly do something because you know that you're right when there's a risk that the other guy could do something a little unexpected (and possibly wrong). I've watched too many videos of cyclists who get right hooked because they stupidly think that because they're in the right that therefore the car won't turn right. And when they do make the right turn (wrongly), who pays the real price? The cyclist!
In this case, the cyclist should NOT have tried running the yellow light. The cyclist should have slowed down much sooner when he saw pedestrians who might step into the cross walk. It doesn't matter that he was in the right. He created this situation by not being more cautious and respectful of others who might just make a mistake. Never assume that the other guy will do exactly what they should do, and you'll avoid a lot of these situations.
He had all the time in the world to stop, bikes stop alot faster than cars.
1) True, bikes can stop pretty fast. The car behind you? Not so much.
2) You can't "run" a yellow light. That's not a thing.
Don't be a wanker.
video cam is proof 👻
the cyclist thought the pedestrian would keep walking but the pedestrian just randomly stopped and walked backwards
So, seeing this, he should have slowed down to avoid hitting her.
Her attention (rightfully) was on the approaching car in the other direction.
She didn't randomly stop and back up. She saw the other numbnuts coming at her and attempted to avoid him, only to be careened by the other. The light turned YELLOW long before these two pedal pals got to the intersection. And, the light turned RED before they actually entered the intersection. The bicyclist is clearly at fault and BOTH bicyclists (i.e, the one with the helmet cam too) were operating in a recklessly manner.
Thought?is the cyclist a mind reader , I don't think so. Spoils it for careful cyclists.
@@pegjames188 Careful cyclist would have stopped when the light was yellow!
1:24 'we'll keep that between us' *proceeds to post on TH-cam*
GARMIN DELETE
Cyclist was in the intersecting as the light turned red = perfectly legal
Pedestrian on crosswalk with red hand = illegal
This woman was an idiot and broke the law. She paid the price.
Ace Savage unless she was blind she had no reason for being in the crosswalk anyways, there was a red hand
A S the biker thought she was going to keep walking forward, there was no way he would have known that she was going to stop. It is a little cruel, but she's a lawbreaker. I would say the same thing about anyone else who did this. I dont have double standards unlike some people.
I mean I don't claim to know the law in other countries, but the light was red for the cyclist, when i was taught to drive you're told on an amber light to prepare to stop, not rush through before the red.
But also in my country the white stripes on the road denote a pedestrian crossing on which pedestrians have right of way, but from reading comments that dosent seem to be how the law works in the country this was shot in.
@@Drood. the lights on the poles at the corners of the intersection all had red hands on them, meaning that it is illegal for pedestrians to be on the white lines, or the crosswalk. This was shot in new York city, and I've seen firsthand people almost being killed because they were in the crosswalk on a red hand. The yellow light in the US is a bit more leniant, as it means if you can make it through the intersection safely, you can go. Also, if you are halfway or more into the intersection and the light turns red, it is legal by all accounts because you can't just stop in the middle of the intersection lol. As you can see in the video, the cyclist involved in the accident was already fully in the intersection, as he was fully over the solid line that shows where the intersection begins when the light turned red. I took drivers education about a year and a half ago and still have my handbook so I have that for reference too lol
No the cyclists blew the light. Yellow means you need to be slowing down, which they clearly could've done because the light turns red as the camera man enters the intersection on the backwheel of the pink shirt.
When I was very young I was told to look both ways before crossing the street.
Suicycle Ed And I was told not to cycle straight into stationary people
Gary Rowe - You must mean: not to cycle into people crossing the road against the red without looking in the direction of oncoming traffic, who then notice you coming, freeze, and then start to back up, into your path, as you try to avoid them. She was behaving unlawfully and unpredictably.
If only they'd recognised that there might be a risk of hitting the person, and used their brakes ...
Yes the person should not have been there, but as an adult in control of a machine on the road you have a responsibility to act like an adult.
If only the woman had not chosen to cross the road on a red light, well before the other light was even yellow, endangering herself and others, i.e. the oncoming cyclists. She didn't even look for oncoming traffic. What if there had been a car coming?
I highly doubt the cyclist was behaving childishly or irresponsibly. He was acting within the law, and if you look closely, his hands *were* on his brakes all the way through the intersection (which he entered lawfully on a yellow), and he attempted to stop, once he saw the woman was backing up. It looks like he tried an evasive action to prevent a collision. Cyclists are at risk, too, of being hit and crushed by cars. They don't need pedestrians acting stupid.
Yes, the pedestrian should have looked towards the oncoming traffic. That's obvious.
However, you say you highly doubt the cyclist was driving irresponsibly when he kept steering his bike directly at a pedestrian while peddling at 15mph steadily across most of the intersection; he only stopped peddling about 1.5 seconds from hitting the pedestrian, and then braked far too late to avoid hitting the pedestrian. That was irresponsible, and showed woefully inadequate judgement. And yes, the pedestrian made their mistakes too.
Lawfully entering a junction does not mean you abdicate responsibility for your actions.
The fact someone has their hands covering their brakes is meaningless if they keep peddling and not slowing down until an accident is unavoidable.
Looking like you are trying an evasive action to prevent a collision is meaningless when you do it so late it is totally ineffective.
It is the responsibility of drivers & cyclists to be in control of their vehicle, and pedestrians - even those who have made a mistake - cannot magically disappear. The cyclist reacted far too late for what was in front of them, and that is irresponsible. As an adult, you have to take responsibility for your actions, and the cyclist's actions caused him to collide with a person directly in front of him.
Why keep harping on about the mistakes the pedestrian made without accepting that the cyclist made a pretty fundamental error as well?
She stepped back because she couldn't cross as a car was coming in the other side. Then she didn't realise the bike was coming hence why she took a step back
But why'd she walk if the sign for pedestrians is stop🤔🤔🤔
Regardless, she fucked up.
@@KimchiYeo if shes blind why is she crossing the road while there are cars, bikes and a red light? Get someone to help you cross the street or a guide dog then...
Hence the light was red so she should of not stepped foot into the street anyways. Don’t feel sorry for her
Well she's an idiot
*sees cyclist coming towards you*
What do you do?
○A. Stand
○B. Stare
○C. Scream
●D. All of the above
Smh MOVE DONT STAND THERE
Samantha uwu Sees pedestrian activity at crosswalk across from yellow light, what do you do?
A. Don’t enter the intersection
B. Slow down to give time to react
C. Steer the bike to avoid collision
D. Make no effort whatsoever to prevent avoidable crash and plow down little old lady.
Yes like wtf
E: stop mid-step and take a step back
@@wiigamer229 D.
E get a parkinson’s
1:22 "We'll keep that between us" Posts on TH-cam.
i swear to god i wanted to write that XDDD
5:51 "We're all just trying to get to work". I guess the cab driver is already at work
Goddamn read this comment again sooo funny xD
i dont understand
I agree, he didn't give the pedestrian a chance, if I would have been near by I would have beat the shite out of him and trashed his bike.
Alexander Paulsen 😂👌
uhhh he said it was his first day on the bike, so he must not have been that confident or used to avoiding pedestrians on a roadbike.
The dialogue was extremely cringe inducing.
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they are some misogynic fuc*ks
Céline Arnold it was a joke 🙃
Glossy Yes thank you. If he wants a woman that does everything that she is told he should get a flesh light
Céline Arnold 100% what a douchebag
I’m pretty sure the situation at 2:14 was the pedestrians fault. The sign was red, meaning it was not your turn to go. And then, she stayed right in the line of the crosswalk.
I think he/she tried to back up cause the pedestrian light turned red. And well. It's also the pedestrian's fault because why would he/she cross a street if it was warning you to turn red?
Either way. It's just an accident.
@@edlopez1001 it's obviously an elderly woman
Technically when the cyclist collided with her the crosswalk was on green
@@jonnybirchyboy1560
Ye and when the cyclist passed when the light was yellow for a while. I would say that cyclist is fucked up. It's just same logic as a car, if you see a pedestrians crossing, regardless the light you have to slow the fuck down.
The crosswalk was showing the red hand, meaning she was jay walking through the crosswalk. the cyclist went through during a yellow, it turned red but he was already in it. The pedestrian stopped when the cyclists were going through, she might have realized she was illegally crossing a road, but thats what negligence is. Hopefully she was okay in the end, and i hope the courts solved this issue
Ryan Spencer "Jaywalking" is crossing the road diagonally. Crossing at a crosswalk with a hand showing is not paying attention.
Joseph Bailey By law it is jaywalking.
I think she stopped because she saw the guy with the camera, she didnt see the one that hit her before it was too late
2:16. The light is red and the bike is still on the over crosswalk. The bike could easily have stopped but nope...they are bikes and they ignore laws.
Terry Best And she could've easily been on the sidewalk instead of jaywalking.
‘We’ll keep that between us’ *later posted on youtube*
2:17 in an accident, never start with "I am sorry" even if you think you might be wrong, don't be that nice. Unfortunately, that can be used in court as admission of fault.
Just be a prick from the start...Good Idea
After hitting her he should be rude, great plan moron!
He is just saying it as it is... In USA, never admit fault. Even my geico insurance says that on my card...
Damn, is it really like that in the US? Why does being sorry that the accident happened account for admitting fault?
saying your sorry means you accept all liability in the usa.
Exactly why cyclists need to have insurance
100%
She was at fault
@@greypossum5982 but that is being racist
@@bruhbruhbruh8905 no its not since i said not to be racist
@@greypossum5982 *racism rate drops to 0*
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Why did she step back. WHY
PATRICK STAR Because she saw the guy with the camera coming but she didn't see the other pink cyclist.
PATRICK STAR Easy to say that but in a split second it was a reaction on her part and no idea what he was going to do. Both were wrong but he had plenty of time to see her and didn’t even slow down on seeing people on the crosswalk
thats was her reaction, thats like asking someone hit by a car "why did you stand still instend of jumping out of the way" lmao
dell x she had absolutely no right to be there. The light showed red. So it's absolutely her fault.
Anne Eggebrecht he also had a yellow light, so he should have stopped. He also should have stopped when seeing people in the cross walk. Both parties were at fault here.
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Light was yellow before he entered the intersection but the pedestrian was jaywalking. Both were wrong but the cyclist was driving a vehicle and as such has to yield to pedestrians even if they’re in the wrong. My conclusion: pretty much everyone in NYC have cranial/rectal inversion coupled with a sense of entitlement and a secret deathwish. This is why I avoid road cycling.
If you go to 2:16, you can see that the bikers are already in the intersection and the light is still yellow.... The crosswalk hand for the pedestrian, however, is still red..
To all you hypocrites in the comment section, the light is clearly yellow, even when they're in the middle of the junction. If you pause at 2:16, you can see the pedestrian light is still red, end of!
You are a liar and an idiot!
... and you are blind!
Yes is yellow, but why he's looking to the ground as he doing a giro d' italia. Stupid, he can avoid it if he look straight forward douchbag
lear the trafic code first
both of them are in wrong, this is sure. But if he look straight forward still can avoid the collision. I ride motorcycle..and I know how pedestrian are stupid, but certain things have to be avoided because it's a waste of time. Insurance, Police, Ambulance are waste of time! and Waste of Money
Pedestrians don’t have the right of way when they have the little glowing red hand sign even if they’re in a crosswalk. It’s an intersection in a city, not a dirt road in BFE jfc.
Shelby Elizabeth listen to them getting boners off kids bicycles.. then proceeding to run a fragile women over haha, on my motorbike ive had close calls but always stopped an paid attention, these guys seem so childish an ignorant
The fact that about 4 other people were well into crossing and she had barely started tells me the pedestrian sign is irrelevant. They more likely ran the light. Either way they saw people crossing and should have seen her if they were paying attention.
Tom the only idiot is the lady who was looking one way. Come on now. “Look both ways before you cross the street” she didn’t even look any way
Xtina Nunyabizz she was following the group
Xtina Nunyabizz except there were several other people crossing the street
Dude, the woman should watch signs and not follow other people that’s how you don’t get hurt. Yes, he had a yellow light but it wasn’t red, the crosswalk sign was at paused for pedestrians to not walk so when you compare the two it was her fault.
Facts don’t care about your feelings
He ran a red light period
@@MissJuneBennett it was still yellow and the pedestrians were all over the place. The cyclist should have slowed down but the pedestrians were clearly jaywalking too. Both were at fault IMO
@@andreashoppe1969 Pedestrians have the right of way, does not matter of they were "all over the place" they have the right to cross the street. If they are jaywalking then yes that is wrong too but he has to obey the traffic laws and stop at red lights/stopsigns.
@@MissJuneBennett they have the right of way if they are walking a GREEN light. She ran a red.
What do you use to get the speed in the bottom left corner ? Is it some app or i wanna know thanks
Well keep that between us...haha
Yeah. And over 1.5 million views later....
Tea
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2:15 thank me later
Thanks for the time
thanks
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If I know light on the other end of the street is about to Turn red (which means mine is about to Turn green, but not yet), Do I start moving forward? Even if my lights is still red
That's what the kid did.
Can you please share which device did you use, that shares all the data we can see on the lower left hand side??
Thanks☺️
Man this comment section is toxic. Honestly both are at fault, the pedestrian should not have been crossing but the cyclist could have done a lot to avoid this too.
Hey you get out of here with your logic! This is the internet!
Both went through red lights.
I agree but I think the biker thought the kid would walk foward but he just stood their.
Brem how do American signals work I'm so confused
Exactly. I kinda also don't understand how the cyclist didn't see the pedestrian at all even though she was straight in front of him for a long time as he was approaching her.
Its the stranger fault she was crossing the road normaly why did she come back backwords ?
Obviously she shouldn't have been in the road but the cyclist had a mile to slow, move, or stop. Cyclist should be prepared for this sort of thing.
You HAVE to slow down at a crosswalk.
Taha Maghraoui BECAUSE SHE WAS TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE WAY!
I mean lights were orange turning red which means the cyclists should have stopped they're at fault
The cyclist ran the light he had plenty of time to stop. Both were wrong but in court it's not looking good for him.
What camera are you using that it gives you speed elevation and grade.
What is the application for tracking speed, ect that you use?
Garmin's free software Virb Edit. Camera has to support recording Geo Metrix
He totally deleted that part...
Paige Playz funny how just moments later he got his wish. Rammed straight into a women to extert dominance
Too chaotic for me. I’ll walk.
If I lived in a grid city like that I'd agree. I live in a rural town though. Public transport is useless and it would take an hour to walk to any place worth going to. So I ride my moped, where before I rode my bicycle. And despite significantly less traffic, I still come across more assholes than I'd like.
T Zinot *gets hit by cyclist*
Thats what she said lol
I’ll drive.
Both cyclists and pedestrians were at fault
Cyclist didn’t look ahead
Pedestrian was just stupid
Yep. I think so. Pedestrian seemed to 'freeze' and not move out the way...and cyclist also sort of 'froze' and didn't take appropriate action quickly enough. Not a good idea to stand your bike up against someone's car either!
This is a perfect example of why so many people think cyclist are douche canoes. Yelling to keep a 6 foot buffer when passing them, then going around a pedestrian with less than 1 step clearance and not slowing down.
Is both their fault, he didn’t slow down at the yellow light and she crossed while it was red.
Who said you have to slow down at a yellow light? You can choose to run through it or wait for it to turn red. It's up to you.
Slash Yes but it was just about to turn red, it’s not completely his fault though
@@SlashPicturesTM Yellow means slow down and be alert. By law.
Scary Bookkake so wrong that it hurts
@@nateevans6456 If there is a yellow light you must stop if it is *safe* to do so. You're not allowed to go fast through through it. Its a warning sign. Do research.
If yellow doesn't mean that in America you guys are just uneducated swine.
"Steady yellow lights signal that thelight will turn red soon. So, you must either come to a safe stop before the crosswalk, or, if you *can't stop safely*, proceed with *caution* through the intersection before the light turns red." There's a quote from a Drivers learning site.
Most cyclists are rude and ignorant. One of them crashed into my dog on a public footpath they didnt even ring there bell to warn us
Anyone know what back pack the cyclist is wearing at the start ? The cyclist in pink that hit the pedestrians. It’s in the thumbnail too
"We'll keep that between us"
Took me a second before I realised and choked on my drink.
That were both at fault. He was trying to make it across on a yellow than turned red as he got there. The pedestrians were walking across on a red light.
Tony Pena nope, I am a cyclist and I have to admit this is cyclist fault
林冠仰Joseph Lin no it's not they were both at fault plus she took a step back whick is what caused the accident
@@izzamenezz7459 My Biology1 teacher back in highschool educated my class, on the matter of men's brains having on average better spacial proportioning than women. Thats probably the whole reason the woman thought she was backing up and providing enough space (but wasnt).
The teacher was a woman by the way.
Tony Pena the cyclist was already in the intersection as the light turned red, he was fine. The woman walked on a red hand, she was breaking the law. The woman is at fault.
Its the ladies fault, you can still go through a yellow light, you cant walk with no signal though
Cops playing Take Me Out by Franz Ferdinand lol
Homeboi it's a good song tho
Such a good song honestly
Born and raised in the Bronx. I'll I have to say is I'm so glad to be out of NY. Good Lord! 🤦
I'll have to say I wish I was in a city were they were food that I can order from were I'm from there is 4 restaurant in my town I gotta drive 2hours to get to a walmart I have nothing around my area be grateful of what u have man some people would switch lives in seconds
Same everywhere now
Really?? I’d love to be in New York. I guess it’s just personal preference.
is it better to have bike lane next to curb or the parking of cars at curb
aah cycling in the city... love that feeling of being between life and death at every crossing, cars, trams, busses or pedestrians...you never know what could bring you down
Just my opinion Eugene but the cyclist who had the collision with the ped.Would it not have helped reduce the chance of colliding if he approached the crossing slower?
Hah there were a ton of things he could've done better not sure what happened I guess he predicted the pedestrian's movement wrong.
ShortieLeeroy the only problem here is the pedestrian crossing against a red signal. If the cyclist light was green then the pedestrians had red the whole time and should not have entered the crosswalk.
Fair enough,can´t argue with that.
Yet the light was not green when the idiot on the bike rode through, he could at least have tried to avoid the pedestrian, even if he had right of way that does not give him the right to ride into someone. The idiot on the bike could clearly see three pedestrians crossing.
I think he expected her to keep walking so he was moving towards where she was, she changed her mind and stopped which is what lead to the accident I believe. Not justifying his actions, just playing devil's advocate.
“We Will keep that between us” He said
“Ima upload this to 7,6 billion people to see” he thought
"We'll keep that between us"....and the whole internet😂😂😂
Pedestrian did not look. Her fault
Laura Fradkoff I feel bad because the only reason she got hit was because she DID look. She was gonna cross, then saw a car coming from the other side and backed up
Yeah but he also ran the red light , it changed before he got a 1/4 way threw the intersection
I thought she was one of those scam people that purposly stepped backwards to get hit?
th-cam.com/video/CxVDnpsGTZY/w-d-xo.html I'm gay but i thought she scammed
Poor old lady...seems she has bad eye sight and was just following the black lady.....smh...
Maybe know what camera you are using, it going to help us a lot..
If possible Amazon link would be amazing..
Great video. What camera do you use and how do you get the speed stats in the corner?
Doesn't even check to see if the woman is alright, just watches then cycles off. Completely different culture to most places in the UK where everyone would be asking if she was okay.
whaaat, don't think so. The UK is awful for no one batting an eyelid in situations and just keeping to themselves. The guy involved was dealing with it, you don't need to have a big crowd of people. She was fine, the guy who hit her had obvs spoken to her, she was in the wrong. He could have anticipated her move perhaps but if you walk into the road on a red thats your risk.
@@Anna-nc5xd In London perhaps, but most of the UK tends to be quite good. As long as it is not emotional pain! Haha. There is a scene in an old comedy 'The Plank's where the main character falls overs with a plank (how very surprising) and everyone comes to help, quite amusing. But yes, you're right there were people there to help in this situation.
@@ThomasCollectables you don't live in the UK haha
@@ThomasCollectables no one would give a shit if I fell down the stairs from being sick or dizzy I just stand up and walk away like the day is normal,this woman was dumb as shiiiiiiiit who stand in the middle of the road /bile lane when she could have kept crossing...
@@asmallboi3559 Haha, she was dumb af to walk onto the crossing like that tbf.
I rather slow down than have to wait for the police. I don’t bike fast because u can get doored, hit someone, someone can hit u etc. When bikers go fast they don’t leave any reaction time. When it’s busy i wait for a green light because a car can turn on yellow as well and hit a cyclists. Every situation on the road has to be treated differently and cyclists bike the same way no matter what’s going on.
EVE WARD Going fast shortens time but if you have eyes its fine.
Its good that he slammed into her, maybe that will teach fallow road laws.
Fobija 13 Stfu!
Robert Thompson Hmm.... No.
It's easy to say that, but when you go months without an incident and you bike on most days, you tend to take little things for granted, and then you end up with an unexpected door in your thigh and your shoulder out of place. At least I did. :)
Wow, when that other cyclists said that the bike was like a woman, it does whatever you tell it to, I was generally concerned about that man’s mental health...like bruh why would you say that, women aren’t objects...
They are not objects they are property 😂
I just watched the vid in slow motion, that cyclist was a long way away from that intersection when that light turned yellow. He had plenty of time to stop.
Cyclist had the right of way. The hand was stop when she was in the intersection, which means she crossed during the countdown, which means do not cross, but continue if you are already in the crosswalk. She’s in the wrong.
Platinum Fist shut up idiot
Nope, it's a judgment call. At least it is here. If the cyclist COULD have stopped or if he could have been more aware, he will have to take some of the blame. Insurance companies can do that. They can assign, for example, 70% of the blame to one of the victims and 30% to the other, or balance it any other way they want to. The officer's judgment when writing out tickets will affect the decision but won't be the whole story to the insurance adjusters.
Yeah, so let’s just start running over people who cross on the red light.
Big man with a gun
That's why the traffic lights are there... to prevent accidents. Pedestrians should obey them
Out of curiosity, what did you use to get the speed and stats onto the video? Is that from the Garmin?
Short answer: Yes it's the Garmin camera
Long answer: Garmin Virb 30 Ultra is the camera. It has GPS and if enabled it will record Gmetrix. Then you use Garmin Virb to import the videos from camera (as opposed to just copy and pasting them on your computer) and it imports the Gmetrix. From there you can edit it and export it and upload it to youtube. But I export it to Premiere Pro for further editing.
In NYC is it okay to be late as of the traffic? Because I’m from a small little town in England lol
What are you using to listen to music
A shitty $15 amazon bluetooth speaker
Lets be honest in the time he prepared him self for that impact he couldve easily moved out the road
Sophie Talbot first time on the road with the bike. No reflex yet. No one was expecting that. Fell sorry for both
Idk about NYC, but In Canada this would be the cyclist’s fault. You are required to stop at an amber light if it is safe to do so. He had ample time to stop, but went through anyways. In Ontario, you are also not supposed to enter an intersection while a pedestrian is inside, whether the light is green or not. The light changed to red as he entered the intersection, further evidencing this. Yes, she shouldn’t have been crossing, but the cyclist is legally at fault.
BLOOGaming US is the same, it is some folks on internet have no clue.
In austrlia if there are white verticall lines on the ground, the pedestrian has right of way.but they are not at intersections. If the light is yellow you can go through.
AUSTRALIA
BLOOGaming why didn't he just slow down?
林冠仰Joseph Lin The US isn't the same, a pedestrian cannot enter the roadway when their walk light is red. And another thing is if you're in the intersection when the light turns red you're free and clear, but only when you're in the intersection at least in NYC you are. The pedestrian is completely at fault for jaywalking.
Do those bicycles not come reported with brakes? Just wondering cause I never had a road bicycle.
What camera are you using?
Are you not required to stop, when there are people on a pedestrian crossing?
BedsitBob No because they had the right of way. The pedestrians were Jay-walking.
Andrew White pedestrians have the right of way. The light was red before he passed the line.
No. Look back at the video and you'll see the lady entered when it had a hand signal. That's called jaywalking.
"hey look a yellow light with pedsterians about to walk across the intersection. i'm just going to keep peddling."
Skylar about? They were already in the road, and their light barely turned white when the guy actually hit that woman. They simply didn't care about the cars in the street and walked on a red light because... Eh?
The Balloon Jin Lets Go In BST No they were not, there was plenty of time before the light went red. When you see a yellow light you must stop if you can and they certainly could
Ni Pr i was referring to the pedestrians. They said they were about to enter the road, but they already did and their light turned white when the cyclist hit the woman. They were all just ignoring the rules. And sure they COULD yield to a yellow, but they don't have to and they were going fast enough to have been fine if those pedestrians didn't decide to risk their lives for no reason.
The Balloon Jin Lets Go In BST In Germany you have to stop when it’s possible and in this case it would definitely have been possible.
Like I said if this would go to court, in Germany both would have 50% guilt in the accident
Ni Pr well this isn't germany, and they aren't required to, sorry to say. They wouldn't have caused any accidents if those pedestrians didn't decide to jaywalk because the light would not have turned for a few seconds for the other cars and pedestrians. Basically, its the issue of why that lady stopped in the street or was in the street. From his line of sight, he saw he would've passed the pedestrian unharmed, and if they can walk whenever they please with no regard to cars or bikes then the bike really doesn't need to avoid them with such a large gap like people claim they do. If she had continued, it would've been fine. If she'd followed the law, it would've been fine. But she didn't. It's on her.
No one gonna mention the biker leaning his bike against someones car after he hit the lady? Beater or not id still be pissed
Oh shut up ffs what damage is a bike gonna do to a car you absolute moron. Stop trying to look cool by pointing out one little thing that doesn’t make a difference to anything. Stfu and get a life.
@@lonelyglader8154 Tracy, calm down. You're no better than that dipshit with personal ego issues.
@@lonelyglader8154 its gonna scratch it
Don't see the big deal. I've done it in my car before: the drops have bar tape. A road bike touching points is always the rear tire (not rim, but tire), the seat, or dropbar(or dual lever, which is rubberized).
@@gersonFls7 but that is your car, to someone else there car is a different story
Not paying attention to your surroundings on both ends here.
Forget the accident, 0:16 greatest song ever by the greatest band!
Adam Ross what song is it
I recognise it
Take on me, by a-ha
No the one at 6 seconds
Aha
To be fair to the cyclist she was hard to see in her bright pink top in broad day light.
Dude I'm a cyclist in the city, stronger up a hill than any of you or your buddies no doubt. When you see a woman crossing the street slow down, even if shes wrong, it ain't worth hurting some one. And then putting this on you tube, like you were violated? What's the matter with you
Dave Lieber you know he was not the one who hit the person, he was just a witness
Dave Lieber Exactly!!
Dave Lieber and she needs to open her eyes and look before crossing when the hand is red.
Lmfao, brag much
Bruno That gives the cyclist NO RIGHT to run her over. His only fear was hitting that red light, not about hitting the woman.
We all see her standing in front of him (including you and the two people who liked your comment), and he still ran her over. She made a mistake, but he made the wrong decision.
The pedestrian is run over the exact moment the light goes green for her. At this exact moment by no means a vehicle can be in the crossing area, less at speed. The recording guy even ends up crossing.
Why doesnt he slow down ?
He quite clearly tried slowing down, but he was going quite fast and couldn’t just immediately stop.
Tom * his brakes are probally really strong so he will just fling forward
The lights where red ont he pedestrian side so legally she shouldnt have crossed so the biker didnt expect that and couldnt pull the break in time
if only those damn cyclists dont speed past u with 1 inch between u and them this wouldnt happen. they think they own the road.
He has no breaks
Some of the comments below are really toxic... you've been warned. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Eugene D a lot of commenters don't understand right of way.
you say "right of way", but the light was amber when he entered them and changed to red as he was less than half way.... suppose a cardriver had done the same bad driving coming across the lights.... dead cyclist........ but of course someone else would be at fault..... its never the cyclists fault!!
Subbie Jon red means stop. If a yellow light is in front of you then you still have the right of way. Quite a simple concept as your light doesn't turn yellow while giving any other traffic a green. Lights work as follows, green light allows traffic to move, light turns yellow, light turns red. If you are in the intersection then you don't stop when it turns red. Then there is a delay of an average of 2 seconds before the next cycle of lights change to allow another direction of traffic to proceed. Traffic code clearly say you may proceed when a light turns green after yielding to traffic already in the intersection and if safe. This concept applies to both the vehicle and pedestrian traffic equally. The pedestrian here entered the crosswalk illegally with a red crossing signal. While there is no question that the cyclist could have stopped he entered the intersection before red. The pedestrian was about to walk into the path of the cyclist that recorded it, then stopped and back steps right into the path of the other cyclist. At the moment of impact you can clearly see that the crosswalk is still displaying a red hand. Sorry but no matter who was in the crosswalk, bike, pedestrian, skateboard, etc they are in the wrong. The cyclist may have pushed the yellow but the pedestrian ran a long stale red. She is at fault here.
Subbie Jon red means stop. If a yellow light is in front of you then you still have the right of way. Quite a simple concept as your light doesn't turn yellow while giving any other traffic a green. Lights work as follows, green light allows traffic to move, light turns yellow, light turns red. If you are in the intersection then you don't stop when it turns red. Then there is a delay of an average of 2 seconds before the next cycle of lights change to allow another direction of traffic to proceed. Traffic code clearly say you may proceed when a light turns green after yielding to traffic already in the intersection and if safe. This concept applies to both the vehicle and pedestrian traffic equally. The pedestrian here entered the crosswalk illegally with a red crossing signal. While there is no question that the cyclist could have stopped he entered the intersection before red. The pedestrian was about to walk into the path of the cyclist that recorded it, then stopped and back steps right into the path of the other cyclist. At the moment of impact you can clearly see that the crosswalk is still displaying a red hand. Sorry but no matter who was in the crosswalk, bike, pedestrian, skateboard, etc they are in the wrong. The cyclist may have pushed the yellow but the pedestrian ran a long stale red. She is at fault here and should consider herself lucky I was a cyclist and not a car.
First off just to clear up any confusion for "our mates" a crossed the pond there are NO amber lights in New York, all traffic lights are red on the top, yellow in the middle, and green at the bottom. The video clearly shows ALL of you should have gotten tickets, 2:16, there is no if ands buts or excuses this cyclists is 100% responsible for the accident,
I have a question can you cross the crosswalk , not walking but driving your bike ? What’s the rule for that 🤔
Rule is bikes behave like cars when ridden and pedestrians when walked.
Where are these videos recorded
NYC
Eugene D no like what area cause I think I know this area
What I found amusing watching these bike videos is that when they're the ones hit they show up to show their fellow biker support by beings vocal if not loud but when they're the ones at fault they keep their distance and not get involved. Wow
The pedestrian was walking on a red yield / stop walking sign while the cyclist had right of way. How is the cyclists fault? If a cyclist did the same, there would be no valid defence, what can one expect when entering an intersection on a red?
All the pedestrians were jaywalking a crime
The guy sees people are crossing and tries to thread the needle through them. If she didn't step back there would be no collision, but the cyclist creates this situation. His fault
Did you actually see the road..
Pedestrian ignored traffic law, Cyclist didn't. She created the danger and CAUSED the accident. It'd be no different if it were a car and she jumped out in the middle of the street. Thank goodness you're no traffic court judge. @@P07AT0
Josh Dumas No, cause he saw she was crossing, if you drive a car a ese somebody crossing, even with red ligh,t you slow down to see what she is gonna do, you don't keep going and if something happens... Oh, it's her fault. Rules should be followed, but common sense comes first, we are all humans and make mistakes, that should be engrained in our heads, if you see anything abnormal on the road, just slow down, it's not that difficult and in this case the cyclist would have arrived probably 2 or 3 seconds later to his destination
Im not arguing moral grounds. Of course common sense comes before "BUT THE LAW SAID I HAD RIGHT OF WAY." However, in a court, she'd be ruled the wrong one. All im saying, bud. @@Ivan-xw9tt
@@Ivan-xw9tt you cannot legally cross like that. And to be straight to the point: many idiots cross without checking to see if the road is clear. The cyclist cannot stop on a whim. Pedestrians need to watch out before crossing.
what kinda camera you using? I like the display.
What is his bike doing up against the parked car 4:49?
being a douche. just look at his face.
They didn't even slow down, when seconds earlier people were crossing. This was completely avoidable by the cyclist if he slowed down as he should have. Legally it might not be his fault in the US, but he IS responsible. I'm willing to argue that both of them are responsible, but the cyclist was the one that yould have avoided the collision, since the pedestrian was in clear view for him. He was going way too fast aproaching the crosswalk. If the lights are green, and the cyclist goes on, but there are pedestrians on the road, he just hits them, cuz the light was green. He's still at fault, he could have slowed down.
Ádor Cserőd that's not how road laws work...that's why there's red lights and green lights. You can't say "even if the lights green and there's people crossing they should slow down" she is clearly breaking a law...if anyone could cross whenever they wanted..more people would get hit like that
Christian Rivera That is correct but laws are not equal to what’s happening in real life. If I’m in a car going 60mph and someone crosses the road in front of me I’m not going to keep accelerating just because the person shouldn’t be there. It’s usually people who think like this who make traffic worse because they always insist on their rights instead of just adjusting to the situation. I‘m not saying laws are unnecessary, I’m just saying that they cannot always be projected on real life situations.
He's not at all at fault but keep believing that
@@sik59rt Not interested in whose fault it was, this could have been avoided if the biker slowed down.
he was going 16 mph and had the light. this could have been avoided by not jaywalking, looking before crossing the street and not turning back while in the middle of the lane.
How can someone hit an elderly woman that is not moving? The bicyclist makes no attempt to steer away or apply the brakes. All of this just to prove his point.
You know how these bikers bike. They act like they are God.
she was moving, did we watch the same video... she moved out of his way, then stepped back in front of him
kimba007 the elderly women was not in the way until she stepped back it wasn’t the bicyclist fault
@GashCam the cyklist saw that she was moving forward, he went to go behind her, she suddenly stopped and walked backwards into him.
He crossed on yellow as it turned red and this yellow woman got on the way
That feeling like a toy can be applied to a lot of things, like a weightlifting bar when you're a weightlifter or a skateboarder, etc.
Shooting red lights, abusing police and talking about dominating women. Standard.
He didn't abuse the police nor did they run a red light, but he should have slowed when it became clear how close he was going to pass to that woman. She should not have been in the crosswalk but he should have put more effort into avoiding her.
ABUSING POLICE HA
Abusing police is not saying, "Nice park job boys!" Abusing police is getting a huge arguement and a few punches are attempted to be thrown
@@KathrynHaslam he was still pretty fast at the yellow
It was a year ago :D
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Mori Ono oh shut the fuck up you sad piece of unfunny trash
Is no one gonna talk about how that dumb fuck in the video never even checked both sides before crossing??
Bonerus Maximus agreed
It was 2 years ago :D
A thought...If I drove my car to work flat out, I would probably lose control at some point and kill someone. Why is it OK for (some) cyclist commuters to ride flat out? if they're on their limit they'll probably make a mistake at some point too. Some of these TH-cam videos scare me to death, worrying about the pace these guys travel at in heavy traffic, especially in London, where it's a lot tighter.
FLAT OUT LOL hes doing like 30 kmph well below the speed limit.
He was not riding flat Out
Thank you for having showed that experience
Please can someone explain to me...how is it ok for cyclists to get annoyed when someone comes in their lane yet cyclists think its okay to get in and out, through and around other vehicles? You cant have the best of both worlds...
Have no idea where cyclists head was except for "I am not a licenced
vehicle therefore I can ignore all stop signs, lights, right of way, and general good common sense.
No attempt to read the road, no attempt to slow down and no attempt to avoid collision.
In conclusion this incident reinforces the general perception that cyclists are unpredictable at best and irresponsible at worst.
rick allen: *Have no idea where cyclists head was except for "I am not a licenced vehicle therefore I can ignore all stop signs, lights, right of way, and general good common sense.*
So in other words, you think cyclists are worse than drivers in follow rules and behave worse? If so, let's see at some studies and research about this:
*New study shows that "scofflaw cyclists" don't break the law any more than drivers*
"It is a standard trope that cyclists ignore red lights, blow through stop signs and generally ignore all the traffic rules that govern cars and are not very nice to law abiding pedestrians either. People on bikes are often told that "If cyclists want legitimacy, they should obey the rules of the road”. And indeed, a new study find that cyclists do break the rules fairly often. But guess what? So do drivers and pedestrians, just as often."
"When it comes to rule-breaking bicyclists, one popular opinion is that if bicyclists want to be taken seriously as road users, they need to obey the rules of the road like everyone else. Our survey results and the literature review both suggest that drivers break the rules of the road just as much, if not more, than bicyclists. The other common argument is that cities need to step up bicycle law enforcement to improve safety. While bicyclists are certainly not immune from causing harm, the literature suggests lower societal costs and safety risks associated with lawbreaking bicycling as compared to lawbreaking driving. Drivers speed, roll through stop signs, park in bike lanes, and run lights that have just turned red while still considering themselves to be law-abiding citizens. Despite research showing a causal link between such driving behaviors and increased crash rates, injuries, and fatalities, society continues to see these behaviors as rational decisions within our transportation system, other than in the relative minority of places that take Vision Zero as more than a buzzword. Our results suggest that bicyclists seem to be making the same rational choices."
www.treehugger.com/bikes/new-study-shows-scofflaw-cyclists-dont-break-law-any-more-drivers.html
*Cyclists are just as law-abiding as drivers*
www.spokesman.com/blogs/transportation/2015/jul/15/cyclists-are-just-law-abiding-drivers/
*94% of bike riders wait at red lights, study finds
*
bikeportland.org/2013/06/25/94-of-bikes-wait-at-red-lights-study-finds-89025
*Cyclists are a bunch of scofflaws!*
*Response:* No more than anyone else-and you don’t like us when we follow the rules.
*The Lowdown:* Yes, cyclists break traffic laws. So do redheads, Methodists, white suburban dads, and municipal bus drivers. We-people, that is-break traffic laws every day by bike, foot, and car. For instance, a study by the Society of Automotive Engineers found that in 2012, the nation’s 200 million drivers [now 210 million] use their turn signals just 48 percent of the time. www.bicycling.com/training/a20042771/the-best-responses-to-anti-cyclist-claims/
*Jumping red lights*
•In 2016(GB),11,783 cycles were involved in incidents in which a police officer assigned one or more ‘contributory factors’(CFs) to at least one of the parties at the scene. Officers assigned 138CFs for disobeying an automatic traffic signal to the cycle, i.e. to just over 1% of them - about the same percentage as it was for cars.
•In 2012, disobeying a traffic signal did not appear in the top ten most commonly occurring contributory factors allocated to a pedal cycle in fatal incidents involving at least one cyclist.
•A TRL study for DfT found that disobeying a traffic signal did not feature in the top ten contributory factors attributed to cyclists in fatal, serious or slight collisions from 2005 - 2007 in Great Britain. Disobeying ‘Give Way’ or ‘Stop’ signs or markings contributed to 5% fatal, 4% serious and 3% slight
collisions - this factor was bottom of the top ten list.
www.cyclinguk.org/sites/default/files/document/2018/01/cyclists-behaviour-and-law_4m_brf.pdf
*Stats on Cycling Through Red Lights*
The report concludes
A total of 7502 cyclists were surveyed across all of the sites. Of these, an average of 16% violated red lights, whilst the remaining 84% obeyed the traffic signals. Therefore it can be concluded that the majority of cyclists do not ride through red lights. However, the 16% that do must be discouraged from ignoring traffic signals.
Accidents at Red Lights.
*Quite revealing is the statistic*
“Of pedestrians injured in London in a collision caused by red light jumping only 4% involve cyclists, whereas 71% occur when a car driver jumps a red light and 13% when a motorcyclist does. As an organisation representing those two road user groups, CTC suggests IAM ought to call for more road traffic policing to enforce traffic laws, rather than highlighting red light jumping by cyclists.” CTC
From media coverage, it often feels running red lights is primarily a violation by cyclists. But, just 4% of accidents suggests that the danger posed by motor cars is much greater.
cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/4756/cycling/stats-red-lights/
LMFAO aint expect my high school to show up in this. Its always heavy traffic there
PlebzOr Blapparapp Are we in school or on TH-cam? Grow up.
@PlebzOr Blapparapp They don't teach how to cross the road apparently. jk
So do they not make bikes with brakes anymore?
Why do pedestrians stop walking when they notice you? Happens to me all the time in London
This should be re-named "arseholes on a bike"!
With that many people in the crosswalk, it seems like the common sense move would have been to wait at the light and proceed on the green. Wether you have the ROW or not, pedestrians are vulnerable just like the people riding them. We all have to look out for each other and not just focus on your own thing excluding others and being essentially inconsiderate of their safety and other essential human rights. This lady should have looked if she was just going to walk out, but nobody here truly deserved to impact anything. *Think of others - if we all did that we wouldn’t have to think of ourselves.*
Bikers in NY City do not have any common sense. I have no idea what is in their brains. Bikers get killed and people get killed by bikers all year round in NY City and more in the summer. It is the same story over and over. The worse are the tourist coming to NY City and riding bikes on the streets of NY City. ...sorry folks just in Manhattan could be over 10 million people. There are biking areas off the main traffic roads that is more reasonable
You can tell im in that "bike feels like a toy" mindset when I stand up doing a no hander
that bus in the beginning was playing Take On Me lol
"well keep that between us"
And here we are
Damn man that is sad. When you get to that age and something like that happens. That fall is going to affect her for the rest of her life, she will never fully heal.
Not to beat you guys up, just be careful I had a cyclist hit my dog. It took everything in me not to get violent the guy almost killed my dog.
So true. Yet the uploader's first thought was to offer his video evidence and his support to his fellow cyclist. He didn't even care to offer the video footage to the pedestrian _or even acknowledge her._
I can see how this shit happens. If you cycle every day among vehicles you're going to feel vulnerable and defensive, which you have to counter by being assertive, and perhaps even a little aggressive. I think the uploader's so used to asserting his right of way, or indulging in righteous indignation when other road users encroach on that, that he totally forgot how vulnerable pedestrians are.
Always remember the Golden Rule and look out for one another regardless of who's in the right, and when you see an old lady crossing the road, _even if she's jaywalking,_ *you yield* lest you inflict a life-changing injury. It isn't rocket surgery!
Yeah get violent cause someone almost killed your dog, good reaction
Rob Chan you should try reading my comment again, before you open your mouth
Jose Martin Believe it or not, most cyclists do not possess superhuman reaction times. If your dog runs out in front of a cyclist then it is your fault for not keeping it under control. Obviously if the cyclist went out of his way to hit your dog then thats a whole different matter, but something tells me thats not what happened...
DerbyCounty Fanatic I bet you like stinky cheese
one simple fact people seem to be forgetting whether you are in a car or motorbike or bike its up to you to watch ahead and anticipate hazards and adjust your speed hazard awareness basic highway code
Pedestrians seem to think human laws will protect them from the laws of physics.