i feel like aespa have reached their fullest potential so far this era. Ever since Spicy era members have just been getting more confident and more in their element/identity as a group + sound
@@Stratosphere07 YES they have a no skip discography I stan many groups from 3rd to 5th gen and they are one of the groups have one of the best discographys
it would've smashed in another comeback date, it was just bad timing XD fortunately ive has been receiving more love than hate this era while further establishing their sound and versatility so i think heya/accendio was a success all around!
I’m usually not a “summer concept” girly, but this summer Kpop is getting exciting, including KIOF’s chef’s kiss of a summer concept comeback yesterday!
love the summer releases so far, and i cant wait for all the other upcoming cb's this month !! i have yet to see anyone make a video on it yet, but hopefully we'll get to see a winterosy video on rv's comeback among others lol
JOON GETTING PRAISE !!! i can't believe it omg . Going in this vid ,i wasnt expecting to see him.but yes you're analysis is right , he really is in the wrong industry and i think he already knows it . I think he's aware that the kpop title will hinder him from alot which is sad and heartbreaking . He's truly one of kind . Thank you winterosy for your words and appreciation for joon and rpwp . It made me tear honestly
I'm still not over aespa's album drop, and then RV is dropping Cosmic, wit Taeyeon comeback around the corner. Yes, there is indeed always something to look out for in kpop and even if not, there is so much great stuff to cherish & look back to.
oh i love the RM and rpwp appreciation here. joon is a freaking genuis you can't convince me otherwise. indigo is my comfort album and when it cam out i legit used to be skeptical about him ever topping her and when he said that his next album is gonna be better than indigo, i genuinely considered that a big statement coz indigo is literally the definition of perfection. and now that rpwp is out, i can without a doubt say that only HE can outdo himself..the hold he has on the understandings of music, i don't think anybody else does. the cohesiveness of the album is insane. like you can just tell this track was meant to placed after this. this album deserves so much but then again, it won't get the flowers it deserves. all the media outlets have named his album as of the bests of 2024 but what can we do, racism and xenophobia still prevails. and the thing is, he notices and he cares. he's posted about all the articles and all on his stories and it fills my heart to know that atleast he knows there are people who enjoy his work wholeheartedly and acknowledge his art. i truly genuinely respect this man so much broo🙌
🙌🏼 Yes. I fully expected the other three artists that winterosy discussed here. But I'm so surprised and pleased by this choice. I was wondering if I was just stuck in a different time with my appreciation for this album. I'm not a particular fan one way or the other. But I try to give a listen to most of the new releases under the kpop rubric and when these came up I said, damn. This guy is like an old wise man in a 30 year old's body or something. It's very cool to see your commentary too.
i totally agree!!! he did post on his Instagram story one day that rolling stones put rpwp on their list of best albums of 2024 so far. i wish his other works got the same about of recognition but im still happy that it's getting its flowers
As someone who has IVE as both my favorite & most listened K-Pop act, their section of this vid was genuinely exciting; leaving winterosy's outstanding editing to a side, the evolution of their view on IVE felt so familiar with how I enjoyed them until I've IVE made me a fan that awaited for more, and I've MINE locked me in (unpopular opinion Baddie was that girl idc). They have been my first (and only so far) K-Pop concert and I can say that I'll *cherish* that experience and the girls with their songs for a long time
the ive section has me jumping up and down 😭😭 it makes me so happy to see people recognizing how amazing their discography is post-after like + how versatile they really are! ive is honestly one of the main reasons i’m still into k-pop; they always bring sm to the table and i never get bored of them 💗
ARTMS album was so good omg. First of all, virtual angel is absolutely gorgeous. From the mv to the vocals this is something that feels representative of Loona. Every song is just a whole experience to listen to. The album is cohesive but each song sounds like it has its own universe. I'm also glad that in general every post Loona release has hit it out of the park (Loosemble with Girl's Night, Chuu's Strawberry Rush, Yves with Loop and ofc ARTMS with Dall!
Ngl ARTMS pretty much bring back the enjoyment for me - all the groups I listen to are at least a few years old now and none of the newer faces excited me much, I would listen to the good songs but not look deeper into it. Even the other post Loona releases while I’m happy for them I’m not particularly invested, but ARTMS really debuted holding nothing back.
Some of Aespa's and IVE's releases have been phenomenal, but I was so happy with your sections on RM and ARTMS. Both those being my top albums of the year so far, I can’t get over how much their music is just so good. RM's album is just so introspective and most of the songs tend to get me at random times, making their impact more refreshing overall. He's such a profound artist and he does it without even wanting the glory - making his music underated, compared to BTS (and probably even more than some of his member's solo music). ARTMS reminds me of what I loved so much about Loona's music - utilizing the use of the member's talents, the production work, and their way to be unique with world building in music. Rebirth got me hyped for their prereleases and when the full album came out, it exceeded my expectations; I had missed this sound from them. I'm glad I'm not the only who appreciates this.
I wasn't expecting you to mention Rm and Rpwp, but I'm so glad you did. The album is an absolute masterpiece. I seriously recommend you to listen to his debut album Indigo as well, it's my favorite album of all time. I also would like to mention that despite him not having the kind of numbers others such as Jungkook have, his album is still pretty successful for what it is. As you said, with him being a Kpop idol and releasing such an album his work is bound to have fewer numbers than some other Kpop artists, but his album has been critically acclaimed and pretty well-received and praised also by people outside the fandom.
RM AND RPWP MENTIONED!!!!!!!! you don't know how much i admire this man. like indigo was flawless, loop worthy album already and now we have rpwp as well. a feast for me🤭 but on a serious note, what you said about the album and him is actually so true. the album is so well produced/written/made, it actually feels unreal. i know many people have said it before and some probably say it on a daily basis but rm is a lyrical genius. like MUSIC is the RIGHT place for him. HE IS THE RIGHT PERSON AND MUSIC IS THE RIGHT PLACE. but sadly, as you said, he won't get what he rightfully deserves for this album because western industry simply doesn't want a well deserving talented asian artist near their white dominated industry.
The way you are speaking about these artists and the editing with the music in the background idk im just getting super emotional😭this video feels like the END of something omg
It makes me so sad because I just know that if Joonie was a western artist he would get his grammy nomination for RPWP. It is exactly the right type of experimental that the critics would like, but god forbid giving a kpop artist an award that is outside the kpop category they like to make to cage the artists. On the bright side, all of the armies in my circle that are music lovers appreciated the album so much, and aren’t just mass streaming it for the sake of numbers. Just like any of his previous works it holds such a special place in our hearts and will be on our playlist for a long time, making and impact in our lives. And I think that is exactly how he would want his work to be consumed, with sincerity!
The kpop tag really REALLY holds RM’ Right Place Wrong Person back. A lot of ARMYs are working on it and the album has now been listed as indie and alternative in some platform. The CORRECT genre. It will expose it to a more appropriate audience. The label kpop also held J Hope’s solo works back. This is why Yoongi and his producer brain went for a different name for his solo work in the past. Suga for BTS. Adjust D for his solo very hip hop work. The rap line are getting traction outside of Kpop. But if K-pop’s framework for “achievements” is awards and chartings, serious music lovers and fans stay away from Billboard ranking and Grammy awards. The more obscure the better. Critical acclaim shy away from numbers and competitions.
I honestly think the kpop title is so limiting in general. I've seen so many people avoid many incredible songs/albums simply because it's labeled as "kpop". Like I honestly don't even know how to define kpop because everyone has a different opinion on what kpop is. Is it a genre or an industry? Do kpop songs have to be in Korean? Does kpop necessarily have to be pop music? RM once said he doesn't want to limit his heart or his music to the term kpop. And even though BTS is popular I'm still waiting for them to really get recognized as the true artists they are.
@@crystalsnow1138 No matter how many times people say it is an industry and not a genre, the fact that so many kpop stans love to complain about how such and such song does not SOUND LIKE KPOP says all I need to know about the reality of the use of this term in discourse about kpop. To me it is a certain feel and sound. On some more abstract levels, kpop is some kind of brand. It represent a certain quality music video, a certain aesthetics visually and sonically. It is a reputation. Which is the source of how many of BTS members’ solo album fell through the cracks. The US music streaming platforms have boxed all Korean music that managed to cross over to their side of the world under the kpop label, and their algorithms trapped everyone clicking on one of them in a circle of kpop h*** While those who would absolutely love them never get to see or listen to them. Not because they don’t want to, but because the algorithm decided they won’t.
No like I literally listen to RM when I am not feeling right as a person. His works always makes me look at myself in a new light. Not everyone would be able to appreciate his music and that's just sad and also I am so effin thankful that you mentioned ARTMS
so real with rm one! like the way i didnt expect and yet expected the album to sound like this. when i first listened to the album, i immediately thought it sounded like tyler the creators album, but smth was different. and that smth was rm. idk if it is his voice, rythm, flow or just vibe overall, but he definitely makes his own mark on the songs he makes, and im just so greatful he finally, after all the hard work and fame, has the resources and opportunity to do, what truly fullfils him. he deserves it sm and i am so glad as a fan i got to touch a part of him through his truthful and personal artwork
You're really the best kpop channel out there, actually pointing out great artistry. I was blown away by RM too my respect for him has gone way up, I understand now how so many idols are actually held back by their personas
YES TO RPWP!!! I've been an ARMY since 2017, and since then I've always checked out most of the members' solo releases - RM's & Yoongi (Agust D)'s spoke most to me tbh. Both are intentionally philosophical in their works, and I appreciate that they have substance in their art. (Yoongi's song "People" is a work of art). Mono itself is so dear to me, I've listened to everythingoes every time I felt sad. Best song in the world. Indigo itself is a mature album, an act of looking back at your 20s, very bittersweet and proud and self-assured (I think you'd enjoy it as well)! But RPWP truly did take the cake for me. It feels the most grounded, and yet highly experimental at the same time. It feels like a breath of fresh air
Seeing IVE live was one of the best dessicions I've made in my life hands down. I am obsessed with their music, i would go as far as to call them peak K-Pop and these girls were just as amazing if not better live than i could have ever imagined. For aespa, this is a group were i know no matter what release they have, the visuals will be top tier and it is almost infuriating how good they are. RMs Solo work rarely is up my alley, same with this album, but when "Lost" was released is still listened to the full album and watched the M/V and i caught myself being so intrigued in the music video. I am so happy that he has the ability to make the music he wants to and i can only hope that the right audience will find and appreciate his work. I remember being so so surprised at how brilliant the Virtual Angel M/V was and that it is hard for us viewers to watch it since ARTMS are Angels and you cannot look at Angels directly + the "Birth" M/V was so so good as well. Just the visuals alone will be the reason for me to keep an eye on them and maybe even become a fan in the future. When it comes to music and artistry in Kpop i will forever be a proud Dive, ReVeluv and MY and these groups will always be my first picks when introducing someone to some good Kpop music. I am also very very exicted to keep up with Rescene and while the only have two songs so far, it is one of the most promising debuts i have seen this year, so if you are looking for smaller groups to be a fan of, that are close to Groups like Red Velvet, maybe give them a listen :) And of course, thank you so much winterosy for making my day so much better and giving us another well produced and thought through video
IVE's 1st full album made me familiar me with them and it had to be the first kpop album that I used to listen fully. and with their 1st EP I've MINE they made it clear that they are well aware of their situation and ready to experiment and serve discography with variety. but the release of their IVE switch EP is the moment I turned to ive fan. I can't agree more with your statements with aespa. they could easily do the half of the effort and still secure all of the profit but they didn't. we need more groups committed to their craft like aespa and IVE.
why am i getting emotional hearing you talk abt rpwp? 😭 i’ve been a fan of bts for a long time, and know that namjoon’s music in particular always ends up being a little more underrated, so it’s nice hearing you emphasize how amazing the album is. it’s just such a daring and cohesive piece of art that embodies who namjoon really is. i’ve already accepted that some may not like it as much as his past work but to me, it’s the kind of album that cannot be ignored. it’s such a good example of the artistic liberties that can be found in kpop, but at the same time, i wouldn’t consider it a kpop album at all.
Aespa will always have my respect for always releasing well thought through music through well thought through rollouts. Their consistency to deliver interesting music is so admirable.
i think 2023 was the year IVE went from basic kpop star to a POP STAR which sst another boundaries and new create a new stepping stone for a diverse and larger audiences ,but its not about Popularity wise its about their MUSIC i think their first 3 title track are so kpop ,like its a signature kpop song which sometimes can be boring but luckily its not the case here , with the release of kitsch its so clear for me that theyre trying the 2010s aestehtic and im here for it ,and IAM continues to do the same for this rebrand ,I HAVE IVE Attempt of renaissances the 2010s aesthetic is a major succes While IVE MINE was less 2010s on the music side ,they nailed it on the fashion !thats why i like IVE so much they really committed into the aesthetic they chose they didnt just throw around random things that were trending THEY INFLUENCE
literally so proud of ive as a group 2023/24, they've accomplished so much as young stars and it's obvious they've been improving in live performances and teamwork. and that's outside of the incredible music, concepts and styling! i've ive and i've mine have been eras where they've really gotten to shine and show their talents even more.
I being able to safely watch a kpop opinion video on this channel and know that I will not only agree but appreciate the actual video presentation. Kpop has faded away a bit for me the last few months for a few personal reasons and whatnot, but after Jin came back I am keeping up again and there have definitely been some absolutely beautiful releases.
this video is so beautifully made, from the visual editing to the audio experience, i actually found myself tearing up at parts. i think this genre doesn't get enough credit for its true gems, and this video highlights that concept perfectly. i really appreciate the art you have made while recognizing some art you love. there is so much beauty in art and there is so much passion behind projects like the groups covered here. i think there are so many people highlighting the lows of kpop recently, and i haven't been able to reflect on the good parts. i love this video
i never heard loona or kpop in general before but they really caught me of their release birth and virtual angel, i fell in love with artms concepts, their mv, their melody, it's feel so fresh
This video had me gagged. The editing, the script, the everything was just perfect! I’ve never seen so much effort put into expressing love for the genre of kpop, you really put into words how I feel about it (especially on RM’s album, I got Tyler the Creator vibes too lol)
I think it’s the very first time a cried to a K-tuber video. The ending is so emotional, it triggered the position I was in before listening to K-Pop and I can say it loud and clear K-Pop is ART. And winterosy please don’t die, society needs you.
I HAD to press like on this video. While we disagree musically, conceptually the message in this video resonated with me so much!! I've been trying to get out of kpop for years now but somehow I just keep coming back because sometimes there are real gems in this community. You worded everything very eloquently and I'm very impressed in the amount of effort the editing took ❤
IVE IVE IVE! And even more so after the concert because HO HO HO. Absolutely favorite group of all time for me and I'll defend them to the end. Almost made the ad hoc decision of buying last minute tickets to the Amsterdam stop and renting a car just so i could experience what I had in Berlin. Even the Seoul Encore was enticing. Songs are great, members are great, the content is great ❤
Mad respect to you winterosy 💜 Thank you for acknowledging the true art that is RPWP. Joonie is a true musician and im glad more people can see it! Also this video is made so well!! I love the music in the back as you comment on the albums, sounds so cool
There's nothing I love more than when a person shows me all of the incrideble things about something that I've always precived as vapid or unspecial. This video is such an excellent showcase of your opinions and appreciation for these artists, you actually do flawless work in presenting WHY you love and appreciate them so much. I was never a big fan of IVE, Aespa or Loona, I thought they were nice but didn't really listen to them. I didn't view them as artists who have the potential to go far artwise, and thought they werre nothing too special, But you have really made me change my point of view, and you can be sure that I will take my time to listen to all of the songs you've mentioned on a deep level. As for RM I'm actually a big fan of his, he is one of my favorite somgwriters and rappers. I would go as far as calling him a poet more than a songwriter, because some of his pieces are straight up poetry, and present the love and gift he has for the art of words and lyrics. But actually when I took a look at some of his teasers and pre-releases for this album I thought it's very different from his previous works and that it's probably just not my cup of tea, so I never sat down to listen to it. But after hearing you I most definitely will. Thank you bro, Iv'e been watching your content for a long time and you only get better, and I love seeing a fellow kpop listener who appreciates and loves the art as much as I do.
Srry to butter in, but as an absolute fan of IVE and a huge aespa enjoyer, for each I'd like to suggest you some bsides (leaving their amazing big title tracks aside) in case you haven't listened already and if you were curious! : For IVE: Ice Queen, Classic, Royal and Blue Blood/Holy Moly (I literally can't choose) For aespa: BAHAMA, Lucid Dream, Mine and Welcome To MY World Regardless, have a good one listening to these 2 and more great K-Pop acts! 👋✨
Ngl, Im surprised bc how did u think was aespa nothing special??? 😳They had a whole ai concept cyber futuristic sound hyperpop hiphop rnb pots and pans experimental sound. They literally break apart taboo song structures and create their own trends too. Also, they started the Y3K/Y2K trend with Next Level (arguably Black Mamba). Their songs are so aespacore yet so unqiue from one another, complex, creative and innovative sounding. *They have the vocals (the vocal belting, the RNB groove, the vocal technqiue and the vocal versatility). They have decent raps (maybe to kpop standards but it's good enough, and better than most, the flows are great, and they delivered the raps well. Im still waiting for a full Giselle rap like her Synked Out pre-debut solo where she can go harder all-out). Honestly, their dance skills are sooo good and Black Mamba, Drama, Supernova and Armegeddon era proves it.* Their stage presence was only hindered by the poor-choreo they were given during Savage to Spicy era along with the stress caused by the amount of hate they received during their debut moment. They debuted at the wrong time when other big groups were at its peak and their fandoms were super active, making them an easy target from hate. Also, I believe people weren't ready for a futuristic/ experimental sound (which SM has been mastering since snsd and fx) yet, which made it even harder for Aespa. Also, it was COVID so Aespa mostly performed in front of nothing for so long. And I know the gp are more used to easy, simpler and less stimulating songs in general. But im glad people are starting to notice Aespa more and I realized more and more people are open to experimental songs and less so of generic sounding music.)
ive and artms dont get as much love as they should just cause theyre not from the big 4 (yes, 4) when for these 2+ years they have been active and im so happy when people recognize how amazing they are
As a DIVE, I have to admit I'VE IVE has changed my thoughts of this group. I used to not like them that much due to controversy, but now I'm in love with their songs, personalities and qualities. IVE MINE and IVE SWITCH prove that I am not wrong for stanning IVE!!
frrr, when ive released those 3 songs in a row, i was like ok at least one of them is going to disappoint me, but OMFG they came out each one after the other AND they were all just perfect.
idk why but this video made me cry. I guess it's nice to see someone go in depth to appreciate the artistry of this groups and also understand what about them I love so much
seriously thank you for telling me to listen to right place wrong person. im a huge tyler the creator fan and admittedly i often stay away from bts releases because theyre often not my taste in music but holy shit. ive now added every single song in this 11-song long album to one of my playlists i am blown away
If you like this release and enjoy this kind of "old-school-alternative-hip-hop-mix", I think you may also like Indigo by RM and Jack in the box by J-hope.
I'm stoked about your commentary about RM's album. When I heard a few of the songs, even when they weren't necessarily what I'd listen to regularly, I just immediately noticed how musically interesting they were and how much talent went into this project. When you asked us who expects an asian guy with an alternative hip hop album to make rounds in the west. I mean, I think it's way way more possible now than it was 20 years ago? I know that sounds like a long time if you're... 20 years old. But, idk. I'm encouraged. Not even canada? West coast u.s.? Like you said, I don't want to encourage less than honesty. So, we'll have to see. Westerners are not as accustomed to the rapid release format as kpop fans (including western kpop fans) are. It might take longer to marinate than his bts fans would need. Let's see. 🙏🏼
I would go as far as saying that even 20 years ago no one would expect the biggest group in the world to be Asian and predominately sing/rap in Korean. I personally didn't that coming 20 years ago.
It's my first time watching a video from this channel, and I have to say that I'm so in love with the way you're presenting each groupe and their songs It's so beautifully done ! Moreover, I agree with every point you made and I'll never thank you enough to make me discover RM's work because It's truly magnificent and I regret not giving it a chance earlier.
Watching this video was so thought-provoking! I have such a different relationship with each of these artists-I knew from the first lyric on Eleven that IVE was going to be my group of all time, the only one that's had my whole heart since SNSD, where ARTMS is the first thing from the Looniverse that has reached into my heart so profoundly-but i share with you a real excitement and joy about all these artists, and kpop in general. A lot of the most popular songs i hear and see are not my favorite, but while usually that could make me annoyed, this year i feel so spoiled by the earnest creativity and brilliance of the music I've fallen in love that i dont even register! What a wonderful time it is to love music. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and feelings, they are such a delight to hear!
i cannot emphasise enough how rm is just an ARTIST. mono was my favourite album and i thought he couldn't top it, then he released indigo and i thought it couldn't get better, and now he's done it again with rpwp. that man is genuinely a genius, and as sad as it makes me that his work goes wayyy underapppreciated, im so grateful that being part of bts has given him the opportunity to create these amazing works that are so close to my heart. with no bias and no expectations i cannot encourage you enough to go give him a listen. it's not even about streams, i just want as many people as possible to be able to enjoy this gift.
Seriously THANK YOU for this video. As someone who is always in and out of the kpop world for over a decade it’s hard to keep up. The last couple years I’ve been kinda lost since Loona ended and I had a hard time wanting to re-engage with it all. But now I can jump into not only Artms’ album but give Aespa and IVE a bigger listen than I have in the past. Seriously. Thank you.
i casually listen to ive,, but wow, your storytelling and description of them + their discography just makes them much more interesting to me!! seriously , amazing job
I love your analysis. I’m glad i get to hear a perspective that is finally being brutallly honest and with such good perspective to the music especially finally being a fan that isn’t usually a bit delusional to this art and usually sucked in with bias. Your view on Rm’s track made me feel so happy because i feel like i hear no one talking about it and especially with relating to Tyler as he’s one of my favourite artists too. Much love
thank you for making that ive section! im their biggest fan and the way you told their evolution made me feel like i was listening to their releases for the first time all over again, it was wonderful 💖
i kinda felt that 'i'm in the corner of the room watching' meme about kpop. recently i do follow the releases but the music in 2024 didn't excite me this much. its fascinating to see people outside my kpop bubble tell their observations on kpop twitter talk. (as a army) i saw my whole timeline being obsessed with rm's album release. i had talks for days about the songs and production and the lyrics but i will agree with you. the majority will not appreciate this album the way it is deserved. although i might add that more outside people getting interested in it, especially since rpwp got added to multiple 'best album of 2024 so far' lists from music critics. i learned to keep my excitement low though, we all know the western music industry. i am pleasantly surprised with aespa this year. in the beginning, i couldn't quite get them, but i think sm does (at least) a good job with their brand and style. they are recognizable in this industry, and sometimes thats even more important than all the talent you can have.
My opinions: 1- Ive's new music is really goood, I noticed the ppl who manage them listened to the suggestions and what fans wanted, since now the songs are very fairly distributed between members, and I could see all of them shine properly, that made me really happy. The quality also got better, the story telling and creativity is so well done ❤ 2- It's incredible that Aespa's music never decreases on quality, they just keep getting better and better in sound, production, EVERYTHING, Supernova literally surpassed all my expectations to the next level(lol) 💙 3- I loved RM's entire new album, it's so creative and fits him so well, I feel that he could show his true potential as an artist and a geniuss. As an Army, I consider this his best album, and probably one of my favorite BTS and K-Pop soloist albums. Ngl, cried a few times while listening to some of the songs! 💜 In conclusion, putting aside the flaws that new K-Pop has, it's also really good. For example KIOF, they are extremely talented and you can recognize it's them when you hear their songs because of the touch they add to them. I'm personally a big listener of 2000 - 2015 K-Pop, but also listen to new gens and some of them never disappoint.
If I weren't already of a fan of all these artists, your video DEFINITELY would have pushed me to give their music a listen. What a wonderfully passionate and well edited video. Great job!
Mannnn~, everytime you release a video I know my standards will be met from the editing to the way you present the story. You have manage to express Ive in ways that I just love as they are my favorite group.
I am actually surprised to see rm here , when indigo came out, you didn't mention it, so I thought you normally don't listen to BTS much . And I guess I was right . I am glad you stumbled upon rpwp , it is a masterpiece ❤
why do i feel so emotional watching this video? you speak so beautifully on a subject i find so much joy and happiness in and it makes me proud to support so many good artists in the kpop industry thank you so much for making such a gorgeous video, the editing and narration are incredibly well done🤍
There something about aespa's music that I'll always love. It's different they never try to follow trends or do what's popular they always stick to aespa. I don't want generic. I want experimental, I want fun, I want camp music and they are so good at producing that.
(not a hate comment) As an army, I'm so happy to see RPWP on this list. But i just wanted to say that as an army it's really funny how u say that most of us won't like this album because it's not "kpop" when armys themselves are the biggest haters of that word whenever associated with bts. One of the reasons armys love and stan the boys is that bts is not your typical kpop group and some armys even hate to be termed as a kpop stan. Armys are working very hard to promote this album and your statements kinda undermines all the efforts we've been putting. Bighit is NOT good at promoting BTS so there is a lot of pressure on armys to promote their music everytime. This album not being recognised in the west is true but saying that "it never will be" is not true. There was a time when nobody would've thought that kpop would break into the western market but armys and bts made it possible. BTS have now gone from the biggest "kpop group" to the biggest "boyband" in the world right now. We are very adamant at promoting their solo work too and I'll take your statements as a challenge to make sure that RPWP gets the recognition it deserves!!!
in my opinion this is the best video on your channel. the immaculate editing combined with your thought provoking commentary is just so incredibly well done. i feel like i'm enjoying a masterpiece of a documentary.
your editing skills are disgustingly stunning like i was gagged throughout the entire video like having kitsch play in the bg before exploding to the front to showcase the song omddd CHILLS and your script is absolutely perfect, so precise and so addicting to follow along with. i totally agree with you on ive and especially aespa, the album was okay but the build up and the three pre-album songs (supernova, licorice, armaggedon) was the most experimental and thrilling thing ive seen from kpop in a while. i'll defo listen to RMs album now now like youve convinced me and hopefully others, im actually suprised i didnt see anyone use any of his songs or talk about his songs anywhere since i would expect army to push all solo bts music, but i think that is actually good because this means he could be starting a new clean slate in his music career, im excited for him and his music. ive never watched any of your videos first but im so happy this is my first, i'll defo sub to you and keep watching new content you make
kpop is art, very true. every comeback lately, i've been gazing at the m/vs with sparkling eyes, its like a gold mine here right now. truly fuels my passion towards design and art and my will to pursue it.
There’s like half of those artists I haven’t really checked out because I wasn’t convinced or just curious at all about them, but you’ve actually convinced me to change my mind and I love that THANKS ILL CHECK THEM OUT
I'm sorry but the way this video has been edited is the best thing I've seen on the internet today.....every single detail about every song the bgs and the voice its perfection.ty for making this video
honestly as an (ex kinda) army i love joons music so much. I feel like his, yoongis and hobis music have always stood out from the rest of the group to me. my favourite song he ever released is life from his first mixtape which like less than 5% of the fandom has actually listened to. also if you like experimental hip hop you might like jack in the box. it frustrates me so much when members of bts (rap line) release good music but no one ever talks about it despite bts being such a big group simply because its not kpop
this was a fucking fantastic video. the editing during ive’s section (and throughout the whole video) gave me goosebumps like holy shit.. midway through your high praise of rm’s album i went and checked it out and like thank you. because i fr, for the same reasons you said in the video, would never have looked at it otherwise and goodness your praise is well deserved.
In this day and age when my attention span is so short i can barely watch a 10 minute video. Its so amazing to be captivated by a Winterosy production. I love how immersive these videos feel
Off topic but how is no one talking about the editing of this video? The little “da da da da dun dun” to end the Ive segment, and the little lead ups when you were talking Bout a group not disappointing you. It was so clean!
Great video! Welcome back! I really appreciated you mentioning the Sailor Moon references in "Accendio!" Sailor Moon is very close to my heart (I even have a tattoo lol) and I made a whole episode exploring that connection. 🥰
I’ll be honest, I am a very casual kpop listener. Most of the songs I listen to are the ones that go viral. This has prevented me from actually listening and finding out what kpop can be emotionally. The first time I felt truly emotional listening to a kpop song was Either Way, and watching this video made me cry. You’ve opened my eyes to the world of kpop, not just the music, but the *art* of kpop. I’ve had so much trouble listening to full albums, my short attention span is to be blamed, but this motivates me to crack a book open and listen to these full albums with open arms! If anyone has some recommendations of underappreciated kpop albums or songs, I’ll be happily adding them to my playlist :). - thank you
my bad for making this comment so long! i ramble easily and this video made me realize that my kpop knowledge is Super Shy, Magnetic, Butter, and Supernova. (I kinda want to listen to stuff that I “love” not just “like” you know?) I’ve been yearning for more depth in the music I listen to, and I hope this video starts my journey of finding more music that has more depth and emotion than the song I currently listen to. Of course I’ll continue to listen to Magnetic and Love Lee, but at least I’ll have more choice for when I want to turn my brain off or on when it comes to music. p.s. i loveee the way this video is edited 💕💕 it’s so articulate and clean which make my brain and eyes VERYYY happy :)))
i’d suggest listening to other newjeans songs such as Hype Boy or Attention! also maybe check out Girl Front by Loona Odd Eye Circle and Stereotype by StayC, based on the songs you mentioned you’ll probably like these! :)
I literally listened to Namjoon’s album a few weeks ago and loved it! Dare I say, it’s way better than the first one lol. I don’t stan Aespa, but they really turned it around. And IVE songs continue to be catchy lol despite me not stanning like as well. Welcome back btw!
dia🕊️💔 aoa🕊️💔 after school🕊️💔 dalshabet🕊️💔 berrygood🕊️💔 lovelyz🕊️💔 laboum🕊️💔 t-ara🕊️💔 wjsn🕊️💔 loona🕊️💔 9muses🕊️💔 f-ve dolls🕊️💔 april🕊️💔 BBGIRLS 💔 Cherry Bullet🕊️💔 Alice🕊️💔 Weki Meki🕊️💔
They will forever be in our hearts
Izone disrespect…
So many fallen comrades...
This is how I find out about Alice's disbandment :(
This is how I find out about Alice's disbandment :(
supernova/armageddon era was actually insane… that’s how a comeback is done !
i feel like aespa have reached their fullest potential so far this era. Ever since Spicy era members have just been getting more confident and more in their element/identity as a group + sound
Spicy->drama->supernova.... definitely one of the best title track run in kpop
Is it crazy to say that it might be song of the year?
i’m relatively new to kpop and their releases made me a fan of them !!
I was not even much interested in aespa earlier but this comeback pulled me in , I still don't stan them tho
I get so happy when people talk so positively about IVE.
right?? they deserve all the positivity after getting dogwalked by haters early on in their career
Yes nobody really talks about their amazing discography!!!
when they actually give them a fair chance and genuinely DEEP DIVE into them instead of overlooking them 😭
@@WONYWON2 being unbiased, they are genuinely the only group with 0 skips
@@Stratosphere07 YES they have a no skip discography I stan many groups from 3rd to 5th gen and they are one of the groups have one of the best discographys
"But in classic sm fashion, they lied" HELPPP 😭😭😭
I hate that stupid company 💀
😂😂😂
it's crazy how heya didnt get any wins at the music shows the final chorus of heya is honestly transcendental
it would've smashed in another comeback date, it was just bad timing XD fortunately ive has been receiving more love than hate this era while further establishing their sound and versatility so i think heya/accendio was a success all around!
Seventeen was promoting at that time, that’s why.
ikr the final chorus makes me ascend
@@anoraroden1582likee.... ascend-io?
@@annabarbosa8 y’all love killing the vibe i swearrrrr
"they better stop using ai though"
LMFAO😭😭
Only used for 2 frames lol
It was so good pls
It’s litteraly their concept.
@@papaipayall are so slowww
I gagged. It was so cold. 😂
In my opinion, Aespa had to lowkey flop with Girls, in order to get that insane rebrand that would ultimately re-captivate fans
Agreed! Though I love Girls and I always will do.
Girls didn't flop, it was still top 10 on Korean charts
girls was the song that got me into them, i did not know that it was a flop 😭
@@hrtofvenus It wasn't really a flop, people just didn't like the song. It did well on charts tho heuehue
Girls wasn’t flop but more like overhated
I’m usually not a “summer concept” girly, but this summer Kpop is getting exciting, including KIOF’s chef’s kiss of a summer concept comeback yesterday!
No but like this is the type of summer songs i craveee
(g)i-dle is also coming put with a summer concept comeback this month i believe!
Same, the summer releases this year were excellent imo
love the summer releases so far, and i cant wait for all the other upcoming cb's this month !! i have yet to see anyone make a video on it yet, but hopefully we'll get to see a winterosy video on rv's comeback among others lol
Yesss and as per usual for Kiof the B-side was so goooood!!!
Life is good again once winterosy wakes up from their coma 🥰🥰
FRR
his videos are refreshing in the kpop sphere just full of optimism his videos make me feel something nothing else does
@@clairecunningham1271 winterosy is a he
oh mb i actually didn’t know thx for letting me know!
@@svt.heavens5112why does he sound like a girl?
IVE never just dare to do anything LESS, they never dare to do anything SAME!
so true
JOON GETTING PRAISE !!! i can't believe it omg . Going in this vid ,i wasnt expecting to see him.but yes you're analysis is right , he really is in the wrong industry and i think he already knows it . I think he's aware that the kpop title will hinder him from alot which is sad and heartbreaking . He's truly one of kind . Thank you winterosy for your words and appreciation for joon and rpwp . It made me tear honestly
I'm still not over aespa's album drop, and then RV is dropping Cosmic, wit Taeyeon comeback around the corner. Yes, there is indeed always something to look out for in kpop and even if not, there is so much great stuff to cherish & look back to.
cosmic is already out! :)
@@takecarebilly_ Taeyeon has released music since INVU... weʻve been in a new era.
oh i love the RM and rpwp appreciation here. joon is a freaking genuis you can't convince me otherwise. indigo is my comfort album and when it cam out i legit used to be skeptical about him ever topping her and when he said that his next album is gonna be better than indigo, i genuinely considered that a big statement coz indigo is literally the definition of perfection. and now that rpwp is out, i can without a doubt say that only HE can outdo himself..the hold he has on the understandings of music, i don't think anybody else does. the cohesiveness of the album is insane. like you can just tell this track was meant to placed after this. this album deserves so much but then again, it won't get the flowers it deserves. all the media outlets have named his album as of the bests of 2024 but what can we do, racism and xenophobia still prevails. and the thing is, he notices and he cares. he's posted about all the articles and all on his stories and it fills my heart to know that atleast he knows there are people who enjoy his work wholeheartedly and acknowledge his art. i truly genuinely respect this man so much broo🙌
agreed! people need to stop writing off experimental music as bad
That made me cry . I feel like he knows he is somehow trapped with the kpop title . He deserves so much more omg
@@salmasabry402agreed!
🙌🏼 Yes. I fully expected the other three artists that winterosy discussed here. But I'm so surprised and pleased by this choice. I was wondering if I was just stuck in a different time with my appreciation for this album. I'm not a particular fan one way or the other. But I try to give a listen to most of the new releases under the kpop rubric and when these came up I said, damn. This guy is like an old wise man in a 30 year old's body or something.
It's very cool to see your commentary too.
i totally agree!!! he did post on his Instagram story one day that rolling stones put rpwp on their list of best albums of 2024 so far. i wish his other works got the same about of recognition but im still happy that it's getting its flowers
your storytelling is always out of this world 😩 you are to kpop ytbers what artms is to kpop!!
Help?!
@@kkurasan_official did i lie tho
@@michaelxtears no, nothing, nevermind
ATEEEEEEE
YAS
Life has been so good since kiof debuted im so serious
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that's why they're the kiss of life 😘
As someone who has IVE as both my favorite & most listened K-Pop act, their section of this vid was genuinely exciting; leaving winterosy's outstanding editing to a side, the evolution of their view on IVE felt so familiar with how I enjoyed them until I've IVE made me a fan that awaited for more, and I've MINE locked me in (unpopular opinion Baddie was that girl idc).
They have been my first (and only so far) K-Pop concert and I can say that I'll *cherish* that experience and the girls with their songs for a long time
amen
they're queenssss
FRRRR I'VE IVE WAS THE ALBUM. EVERY MUSIC WAS SO GOOODDDD
the ive section has me jumping up and down 😭😭 it makes me so happy to see people recognizing how amazing their discography is post-after like + how versatile they really are! ive is honestly one of the main reasons i’m still into k-pop; they always bring sm to the table and i never get bored of them 💗
ARTMS album was so good omg. First of all, virtual angel is absolutely gorgeous. From the mv to the vocals this is something that feels representative of Loona. Every song is just a whole experience to listen to. The album is cohesive but each song sounds like it has its own universe. I'm also glad that in general every post Loona release has hit it out of the park (Loosemble with Girl's Night, Chuu's Strawberry Rush, Yves with Loop and ofc ARTMS with Dall!
ARTMS is amazing, the rest are ok. Although I'll still support them
@@dofudofudahyun2789ew… dont make that known
the vision is what loona was supposed to grow into originally
Ngl ARTMS pretty much bring back the enjoyment for me - all the groups I listen to are at least a few years old now and none of the newer faces excited me much, I would listen to the good songs but not look deeper into it. Even the other post Loona releases while I’m happy for them I’m not particularly invested, but ARTMS really debuted holding nothing back.
Some of Aespa's and IVE's releases have been phenomenal, but I was so happy with your sections on RM and ARTMS. Both those being my top albums of the year so far, I can’t get over how much their music is just so good. RM's album is just so introspective and most of the songs tend to get me at random times, making their impact more refreshing overall. He's such a profound artist and he does it without even wanting the glory - making his music underated, compared to BTS (and probably even more than some of his member's solo music). ARTMS reminds me of what I loved so much about Loona's music - utilizing the use of the member's talents, the production work, and their way to be unique with world building in music. Rebirth got me hyped for their prereleases and when the full album came out, it exceeded my expectations; I had missed this sound from them. I'm glad I'm not the only who appreciates this.
I wasn't expecting you to mention Rm and Rpwp, but I'm so glad you did. The album is an absolute masterpiece. I seriously recommend you to listen to his debut album Indigo as well, it's my favorite album of all time.
I also would like to mention that despite him not having the kind of numbers others such as Jungkook have, his album is still pretty successful for what it is. As you said, with him being a Kpop idol and releasing such an album his work is bound to have fewer numbers than some other Kpop artists, but his album has been critically acclaimed and pretty well-received and praised also by people outside the fandom.
RM AND RPWP MENTIONED!!!!!!!!
you don't know how much i admire this man. like indigo was flawless, loop worthy album already and now we have rpwp as well. a feast for me🤭 but on a serious note, what you said about the album and him is actually so true. the album is so well produced/written/made, it actually feels unreal. i know many people have said it before and some probably say it on a daily basis but rm is a lyrical genius. like MUSIC is the RIGHT place for him. HE IS THE RIGHT PERSON AND MUSIC IS THE RIGHT PLACE. but sadly, as you said, he won't get what he rightfully deserves for this album because western industry simply doesn't want a well deserving talented asian artist near their white dominated industry.
If Pink Tape is the Blackout of Kpop, IVE'IVE is the 1989 of kpop: nothing groundbreaking, just astonishingly well-made
The way you are speaking about these artists and the editing with the music in the background idk im just getting super emotional😭this video feels like the END of something omg
It's like my personal kpop diaries but presented in a beautiful way that I couldn't. I literally save the video so I can look back at it years later 😆
@@FunSoSoToTo SAME.
FOR REAL
It makes me so sad because I just know that if Joonie was a western artist he would get his grammy nomination for RPWP. It is exactly the right type of experimental that the critics would like, but god forbid giving a kpop artist an award that is outside the kpop category they like to make to cage the artists. On the bright side, all of the armies in my circle that are music lovers appreciated the album so much, and aren’t just mass streaming it for the sake of numbers. Just like any of his previous works it holds such a special place in our hearts and will be on our playlist for a long time, making and impact in our lives. And I think that is exactly how he would want his work to be consumed, with sincerity!
The moment I saw the epilepsy warning I KNEW there would be ARTMS!! Damn what a perfect album DALL is
i love ive n aespa, seeing u talk abt them was great, but i deep down wanted an artms segment and OHMYGOD u delivered
The kpop tag really REALLY holds RM’ Right Place Wrong Person back. A lot of ARMYs are working on it and the album has now been listed as indie and alternative in some platform. The CORRECT genre. It will expose it to a more appropriate audience.
The label kpop also held J Hope’s solo works back.
This is why Yoongi and his producer brain went for a different name for his solo work in the past. Suga for BTS. Adjust D for his solo very hip hop work.
The rap line are getting traction outside of Kpop. But if K-pop’s framework for “achievements” is awards and chartings, serious music lovers and fans stay away from Billboard ranking and Grammy awards. The more obscure the better. Critical acclaim shy away from numbers and competitions.
* agust d
I honestly think the kpop title is so limiting in general. I've seen so many people avoid many incredible songs/albums simply because it's labeled as "kpop". Like I honestly don't even know how to define kpop because everyone has a different opinion on what kpop is. Is it a genre or an industry? Do kpop songs have to be in Korean? Does kpop necessarily have to be pop music? RM once said he doesn't want to limit his heart or his music to the term kpop. And even though BTS is popular I'm still waiting for them to really get recognized as the true artists they are.
@@crystalsnow1138 No matter how many times people say it is an industry and not a genre, the fact that so many kpop stans love to complain about how such and such song does not SOUND LIKE KPOP says all I need to know about the reality of the use of this term in discourse about kpop. To me it is a certain feel and sound. On some more abstract levels, kpop is some kind of brand. It represent a certain quality music video, a certain aesthetics visually and sonically. It is a reputation. Which is the source of how many of BTS members’ solo album fell through the cracks. The US music streaming platforms have boxed all Korean music that managed to cross over to their side of the world under the kpop label, and their algorithms trapped everyone clicking on one of them in a circle of kpop h*** While those who would absolutely love them never get to see or listen to them. Not because they don’t want to, but because the algorithm decided they won’t.
RPWP is album of the year, Rm really dropped a masterpiece
No like I literally listen to RM when I am not feeling right as a person. His works always makes me look at myself in a new light. Not everyone would be able to appreciate his music and that's just sad and also I am so effin thankful that you mentioned ARTMS
so real with rm one! like the way i didnt expect and yet expected the album to sound like this. when i first listened to the album, i immediately thought it sounded like tyler the creators album, but smth was different. and that smth was rm.
idk if it is his voice, rythm, flow or just vibe overall, but he definitely makes his own mark on the songs he makes, and im just so greatful he finally, after all the hard work and fame, has the resources and opportunity to do, what truly fullfils him.
he deserves it sm and i am so glad as a fan i got to touch a part of him through his truthful and personal artwork
You're really the best kpop channel out there, actually pointing out great artistry. I was blown away by RM too my respect for him has gone way up, I understand now how so many idols are actually held back by their personas
The editing goes hard
YES TO RPWP!!! I've been an ARMY since 2017, and since then I've always checked out most of the members' solo releases - RM's & Yoongi (Agust D)'s spoke most to me tbh. Both are intentionally philosophical in their works, and I appreciate that they have substance in their art. (Yoongi's song "People" is a work of art). Mono itself is so dear to me, I've listened to everythingoes every time I felt sad. Best song in the world. Indigo itself is a mature album, an act of looking back at your 20s, very bittersweet and proud and self-assured (I think you'd enjoy it as well)!
But RPWP truly did take the cake for me. It feels the most grounded, and yet highly experimental at the same time. It feels like a breath of fresh air
Seeing IVE live was one of the best dessicions I've made in my life hands down. I am obsessed with their music, i would go as far as to call them peak K-Pop and these girls were just as amazing if not better live than i could have ever imagined.
For aespa, this is a group were i know no matter what release they have, the visuals will be top tier and it is almost infuriating how good they are.
RMs Solo work rarely is up my alley, same with this album, but when "Lost" was released is still listened to the full album and watched the M/V and i caught myself being so intrigued in the music video. I am so happy that he has the ability to make the music he wants to and i can only hope that the right audience will find and appreciate his work.
I remember being so so surprised at how brilliant the Virtual Angel M/V was and that it is hard for us viewers to watch it since ARTMS are Angels and you cannot look at Angels directly + the "Birth" M/V was so so good as well. Just the visuals alone will be the reason for me to keep an eye on them and maybe even become a fan in the future.
When it comes to music and artistry in Kpop i will forever be a proud Dive, ReVeluv and MY and these groups will always be my first picks when introducing someone to some good Kpop music. I am also very very exicted to keep up with Rescene and while the only have two songs so far, it is one of the most promising debuts i have seen this year, so if you are looking for smaller groups to be a fan of, that are close to Groups like Red Velvet, maybe give them a listen :)
And of course, thank you so much winterosy for making my day so much better and giving us another well produced and thought through video
your IVE section convinced me to stan IVe, they have been killin it since debut
IVE's 1st full album made me familiar me with them and it had to be the first kpop album that I used to listen fully. and with their 1st EP I've MINE they made it clear that they are well aware of their situation and ready to experiment and serve discography with variety. but the release of their IVE switch EP is the moment I turned to ive fan.
I can't agree more with your statements with aespa. they could easily do the half of the effort and still secure all of the profit but they didn't. we need more groups committed to their craft like aespa and IVE.
why am i getting emotional hearing you talk abt rpwp? 😭 i’ve been a fan of bts for a long time, and know that namjoon’s music in particular always ends up being a little more underrated, so it’s nice hearing you emphasize how amazing the album is. it’s just such a daring and cohesive piece of art that embodies who namjoon really is. i’ve already accepted that some may not like it as much as his past work but to me, it’s the kind of album that cannot be ignored. it’s such a good example of the artistic liberties that can be found in kpop, but at the same time, i wouldn’t consider it a kpop album at all.
Aespa will always have my respect for always releasing well thought through music through well thought through rollouts. Their consistency to deliver interesting music is so admirable.
the taylor swift loona picture at the start😭
LMAOO
Lmao I love how iconic that Loona photo shoot is 😂😂
noooo i hate that woman
@@Gay-Transformers you're weird
RM's and Suga's music is one of the best peice of art and music i have seen in the kpop ... They are really genius
Because they aren’t kpop
@@HailToTheMeep😂😂
@@HailToTheMeep what 💀
@@moa4212 what
@@BhaktManomandirVihariniUma 🤣😂🥸
i think 2023 was the year IVE went from basic kpop star to a POP STAR which sst another boundaries and new create a new stepping stone for a diverse and larger audiences ,but its not about Popularity wise its about their MUSIC
i think their first 3 title track are so kpop ,like its a signature kpop song which sometimes can be boring but luckily its not the case here ,
with the release of kitsch its so clear for me that theyre trying the 2010s aestehtic and im here for it ,and IAM continues to do the same for this rebrand ,I HAVE IVE Attempt of renaissances the 2010s aesthetic is a major succes While IVE MINE was less 2010s on the music side ,they nailed it on the fashion !thats why i like IVE so much they really committed into the aesthetic they chose they didnt just throw around random things that were trending THEY INFLUENCE
literally so proud of ive as a group 2023/24, they've accomplished so much as young stars and it's obvious they've been improving in live performances and teamwork. and that's outside of the incredible music, concepts and styling! i've ive and i've mine have been eras where they've really gotten to shine and show their talents even more.
I being able to safely watch a kpop opinion video on this channel and know that I will not only agree but appreciate the actual video presentation. Kpop has faded away a bit for me the last few months for a few personal reasons and whatnot, but after Jin came back I am keeping up again and there have definitely been some absolutely beautiful releases.
this video is so beautifully made, from the visual editing to the audio experience, i actually found myself tearing up at parts. i think this genre doesn't get enough credit for its true gems, and this video highlights that concept perfectly. i really appreciate the art you have made while recognizing some art you love. there is so much beauty in art and there is so much passion behind projects like the groups covered here. i think there are so many people highlighting the lows of kpop recently, and i haven't been able to reflect on the good parts. i love this video
i never heard loona or kpop in general before but they really caught me of their release birth and virtual angel, i fell in love with artms concepts, their mv, their melody, it's feel so fresh
This video had me gagged. The editing, the script, the everything was just perfect! I’ve never seen so much effort put into expressing love for the genre of kpop, you really put into words how I feel about it (especially on RM’s album, I got Tyler the Creator vibes too lol)
I think it’s the very first time a cried to a K-tuber video. The ending is so emotional, it triggered the position I was in before listening to K-Pop and I can say it loud and clear K-Pop is ART. And winterosy please don’t die, society needs you.
RM's album is such a personal and meaningful that kpop's sheep fanbase wouldn't appreciate it and don't deserve it
I HAD to press like on this video. While we disagree musically, conceptually the message in this video resonated with me so much!! I've been trying to get out of kpop for years now but somehow I just keep coming back because sometimes there are real gems in this community. You worded everything very eloquently and I'm very impressed in the amount of effort the editing took ❤
the way I went to listen to right place, wrong people right after this video and my head litreally exploded. Thank you for recognizing this gem🙏
IVE IVE IVE!
And even more so after the concert because HO HO HO. Absolutely favorite group of all time for me and I'll defend them to the end.
Almost made the ad hoc decision of buying last minute tickets to the Amsterdam stop and renting a car just so i could experience what I had in Berlin. Even the Seoul Encore was enticing.
Songs are great, members are great, the content is great ❤
Mad respect to you winterosy 💜 Thank you for acknowledging the true art that is RPWP. Joonie is a true musician and im glad more people can see it! Also this video is made so well!! I love the music in the back as you comment on the albums, sounds so cool
There's nothing I love more than when a person shows me all of the incrideble things about something that I've always precived as vapid or unspecial. This video is such an excellent showcase of your opinions and appreciation for these artists, you actually do flawless work in presenting WHY you love and appreciate them so much. I was never a big fan of IVE, Aespa or Loona, I thought they were nice but didn't really listen to them. I didn't view them as artists who have the potential to go far artwise, and thought they werre nothing too special, But you have really made me change my point of view, and you can be sure that I will take my time to listen to all of the songs you've mentioned on a deep level. As for RM I'm actually a big fan of his, he is one of my favorite somgwriters and rappers. I would go as far as calling him a poet more than a songwriter, because some of his pieces are straight up poetry, and present the love and gift he has for the art of words and lyrics. But actually when I took a look at some of his teasers and pre-releases for this album I thought it's very different from his previous works and that it's probably just not my cup of tea, so I never sat down to listen to it. But after hearing you I most definitely will. Thank you bro, Iv'e been watching your content for a long time and you only get better, and I love seeing a fellow kpop listener who appreciates and loves the art as much as I do.
Srry to butter in, but as an absolute fan of IVE and a huge aespa enjoyer, for each I'd like to suggest you some bsides (leaving their amazing big title tracks aside) in case you haven't listened already and if you were curious! :
For IVE: Ice Queen, Classic, Royal and Blue Blood/Holy Moly (I literally can't choose)
For aespa: BAHAMA, Lucid Dream, Mine and Welcome To MY World
Regardless, have a good one listening to these 2 and more great K-Pop acts! 👋✨
Thank you! I'll make sure too listen
Ngl, Im surprised bc how did u think was aespa nothing special??? 😳They had a whole ai concept cyber futuristic sound hyperpop hiphop rnb pots and pans experimental sound. They literally break apart taboo song structures and create their own trends too. Also, they started the Y3K/Y2K trend with Next Level (arguably Black Mamba). Their songs are so aespacore yet so unqiue from one another, complex, creative and innovative sounding.
*They have the vocals (the vocal belting, the RNB groove, the vocal technqiue and the vocal versatility). They have decent raps (maybe to kpop standards but it's good enough, and better than most, the flows are great, and they delivered the raps well. Im still waiting for a full Giselle rap like her Synked Out pre-debut solo where she can go harder all-out). Honestly, their dance skills are sooo good and Black Mamba, Drama, Supernova and Armegeddon era proves it.*
Their stage presence was only hindered by the poor-choreo they were given during Savage to Spicy era along with the stress caused by the amount of hate they received during their debut moment. They debuted at the wrong time when other big groups were at its peak and their fandoms were super active, making them an easy target from hate. Also, I believe people weren't ready for a futuristic/ experimental sound (which SM has been mastering since snsd and fx) yet, which made it even harder for Aespa. Also, it was COVID so Aespa mostly performed in front of nothing for so long.
And I know the gp are more used to easy, simpler and less stimulating songs in general. But im glad people are starting to notice Aespa more and I realized more and more people are open to experimental songs and less so of generic sounding music.)
ive and artms dont get as much love as they should just cause theyre not from the big 4 (yes, 4) when for these 2+ years they have been active and im so happy when people recognize how amazing they are
As a DIVE, I have to admit I'VE IVE has changed my thoughts of this group. I used to not like them that much due to controversy, but now I'm in love with their songs, personalities and qualities. IVE MINE and IVE SWITCH prove that I am not wrong for stanning IVE!!
frrr, when ive released those 3 songs in a row, i was like ok at least one of them is going to disappoint me, but OMFG they came out each one after the other AND they were all just perfect.
idk why but this video made me cry. I guess it's nice to see someone go in depth to appreciate the artistry of this groups and also understand what about them I love so much
It’s always nice to see someone talk positively about IVE, thank you so much for this video.
seriously thank you for telling me to listen to right place wrong person. im a huge tyler the creator fan and admittedly i often stay away from bts releases because theyre often not my taste in music but holy shit. ive now added every single song in this 11-song long album to one of my playlists i am blown away
If you like this release and enjoy this kind of
"old-school-alternative-hip-hop-mix", I think you may also like Indigo by RM and Jack in the box by J-hope.
I'm stoked about your commentary about RM's album. When I heard a few of the songs, even when they weren't necessarily what I'd listen to regularly, I just immediately noticed how musically interesting they were and how much talent went into this project.
When you asked us who expects an asian guy with an alternative hip hop album to make rounds in the west. I mean, I think it's way way more possible now than it was 20 years ago? I know that sounds like a long time if you're... 20 years old. But, idk. I'm encouraged. Not even canada? West coast u.s.? Like you said, I don't want to encourage less than honesty. So, we'll have to see. Westerners are not as accustomed to the rapid release format as kpop fans (including western kpop fans) are. It might take longer to marinate than his bts fans would need. Let's see. 🙏🏼
I would go as far as saying that even 20 years ago no one would expect the biggest group in the world to be Asian and predominately sing/rap in Korean. I personally didn't that coming 20 years ago.
@@crystalsnow1138 Good point.
ARTMS genuinely surprised me in such an insane way, virtual angel will NEVER fail to give me goosebumps
It's my first time watching a video from this channel, and I have to say that I'm so in love with the way you're presenting each groupe and their songs It's so beautifully done !
Moreover, I agree with every point you made and I'll never thank you enough to make me discover RM's work because It's truly magnificent and I regret not giving it a chance earlier.
Watching this video was so thought-provoking! I have such a different relationship with each of these artists-I knew from the first lyric on Eleven that IVE was going to be my group of all time, the only one that's had my whole heart since SNSD, where ARTMS is the first thing from the Looniverse that has reached into my heart so profoundly-but i share with you a real excitement and joy about all these artists, and kpop in general. A lot of the most popular songs i hear and see are not my favorite, but while usually that could make me annoyed, this year i feel so spoiled by the earnest creativity and brilliance of the music I've fallen in love that i dont even register! What a wonderful time it is to love music. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and feelings, they are such a delight to hear!
i cannot emphasise enough how rm is just an ARTIST. mono was my favourite album and i thought he couldn't top it, then he released indigo and i thought it couldn't get better, and now he's done it again with rpwp. that man is genuinely a genius, and as sad as it makes me that his work goes wayyy underapppreciated, im so grateful that being part of bts has given him the opportunity to create these amazing works that are so close to my heart. with no bias and no expectations i cannot encourage you enough to go give him a listen. it's not even about streams, i just want as many people as possible to be able to enjoy this gift.
AM I DREAMING OR DID WJNTEROSY JSUT UPLOAD????????????
THE MOMENT I SAW THE NEWS BROADCAST FROM LOST! I JUMPED FROM MY CHAIR I LOVE YOU WINTEROSY THANKS FOR GIVING RPWP ITS DESERVED FLOWERS
Seriously THANK YOU for this video. As someone who is always in and out of the kpop world for over a decade it’s hard to keep up. The last couple years I’ve been kinda lost since Loona ended and I had a hard time wanting to re-engage with it all. But now I can jump into not only Artms’ album but give Aespa and IVE a bigger listen than I have in the past.
Seriously. Thank you.
i casually listen to ive,, but wow, your storytelling and description of them + their discography just makes them much more interesting to me!! seriously , amazing job
I love your analysis. I’m glad i get to hear a perspective that is finally being brutallly honest and with such good perspective to the music especially finally being a fan that isn’t usually a bit delusional to this art and usually sucked in with bias. Your view on Rm’s track made me feel so happy because i feel like i hear no one talking about it and especially with relating to Tyler as he’s one of my favourite artists too. Much love
thank you for making that ive section! im their biggest fan and the way you told their evolution made me feel like i was listening to their releases for the first time all over again, it was wonderful 💖
rm on his igor stint. kinda iconic tbh
This has to be my favorite kpop video ever, because all these groups saved kpop for me as well. Aespa ate!
ive and aespa are personally my favorite girl groups rn, I have loved (almost) every single release these groups have put out 😭🙏
literally no bad songs
THANK YOU
I did not see anyone talk about this masterpiece Album from RM.
thank you for changing that ❤
You really had me tearing up at the end
I loved everything you had to say and I really love the way you speak to your audience🩷
You are so incredible🥺
My two fave gg’s! IVE and aespa! 🤭
i kinda felt that 'i'm in the corner of the room watching' meme about kpop. recently i do follow the releases but the music in 2024 didn't excite me this much. its fascinating to see people outside my kpop bubble tell their observations on kpop twitter talk.
(as a army) i saw my whole timeline being obsessed with rm's album release. i had talks for days about the songs and production and the lyrics but i will agree with you. the majority will not appreciate this album the way it is deserved. although i might add that more outside people getting interested in it, especially since rpwp got added to multiple 'best album of 2024 so far' lists from music critics. i learned to keep my excitement low though, we all know the western music industry.
i am pleasantly surprised with aespa this year. in the beginning, i couldn't quite get them, but i think sm does (at least) a good job with their brand and style. they are recognizable in this industry, and sometimes thats even more important than all the talent you can have.
My opinions:
1- Ive's new music is really goood, I noticed the ppl who manage them listened to the suggestions and what fans wanted, since now the songs are very fairly distributed between members, and I could see all of them shine properly, that made me really happy. The quality also got better, the story telling and creativity is so well done ❤
2- It's incredible that Aespa's music never decreases on quality, they just keep getting better and better in sound, production, EVERYTHING, Supernova literally surpassed all my expectations to the next level(lol) 💙
3- I loved RM's entire new album, it's so creative and fits him so well, I feel that he could show his true potential as an artist and a geniuss. As an Army, I consider this his best album, and probably one of my favorite BTS and K-Pop soloist albums. Ngl, cried a few times while listening to some of the songs! 💜
In conclusion, putting aside the flaws that new K-Pop has, it's also really good. For example KIOF, they are extremely talented and you can recognize it's them when you hear their songs because of the touch they add to them. I'm personally a big listener of 2000 - 2015 K-Pop, but also listen to new gens and some of them never disappoint.
Winterrosy i really like the way you present your content. While watching the video i felt at peace. Thanks for making these types of video.
If I weren't already of a fan of all these artists, your video DEFINITELY would have pushed me to give their music a listen. What a wonderfully passionate and well edited video. Great job!
Mannnn~, everytime you release a video I know my standards will be met from the editing to the way you present the story. You have manage to express Ive in ways that I just love as they are my favorite group.
I really agree with all the points you made and your feelings towards this genre thanks for making such a high quality video as always
I am actually surprised to see rm here , when indigo came out, you didn't mention it, so I thought you normally don't listen to BTS much . And I guess I was right .
I am glad you stumbled upon rpwp , it is a masterpiece ❤
why do i feel so emotional watching this video? you speak so beautifully on a subject i find so much joy and happiness in and it makes me proud to support so many good artists in the kpop industry
thank you so much for making such a gorgeous video, the editing and narration are incredibly well done🤍
AESPA AND IVE>>>>>>>>>>>
YES 😍
There something about aespa's music that I'll always love. It's different they never try to follow trends or do what's popular they always stick to aespa. I don't want generic. I want experimental, I want fun, I want camp music and they are so good at producing that.
(not a hate comment)
As an army, I'm so happy to see RPWP on this list. But i just wanted to say that as an army it's really funny how u say that most of us won't like this album because it's not "kpop" when armys themselves are the biggest haters of that word whenever associated with bts. One of the reasons armys love and stan the boys is that bts is not your typical kpop group and some armys even hate to be termed as a kpop stan. Armys are working very hard to promote this album and your statements kinda undermines all the efforts we've been putting. Bighit is NOT good at promoting BTS so there is a lot of pressure on armys to promote their music everytime. This album not being recognised in the west is true but saying that "it never will be" is not true. There was a time when nobody would've thought that kpop would break into the western market but armys and bts made it possible. BTS have now gone from the biggest "kpop group" to the biggest "boyband" in the world right now. We are very adamant at promoting their solo work too and I'll take your statements as a challenge to make sure that RPWP gets the recognition it deserves!!!
The way u edit is actually a work of art I felt so pulled into this video
in my opinion this is the best video on your channel. the immaculate editing combined with your thought provoking commentary is just so incredibly well done. i feel like i'm enjoying a masterpiece of a documentary.
your editing skills are disgustingly stunning like i was gagged throughout the entire video like having kitsch play in the bg before exploding to the front to showcase the song omddd CHILLS and your script is absolutely perfect, so precise and so addicting to follow along with. i totally agree with you on ive and especially aespa, the album was okay but the build up and the three pre-album songs (supernova, licorice, armaggedon) was the most experimental and thrilling thing ive seen from kpop in a while. i'll defo listen to RMs album now now like youve convinced me and hopefully others, im actually suprised i didnt see anyone use any of his songs or talk about his songs anywhere since i would expect army to push all solo bts music, but i think that is actually good because this means he could be starting a new clean slate in his music career, im excited for him and his music. ive never watched any of your videos first but im so happy this is my first, i'll defo sub to you and keep watching new content you make
kpop is art, very true. every comeback lately, i've been gazing at the m/vs with sparkling eyes, its like a gold mine here right now. truly fuels my passion towards design and art and my will to pursue it.
There’s like half of those artists I haven’t really checked out because I wasn’t convinced or just curious at all about them, but you’ve actually convinced me to change my mind and I love that THANKS ILL CHECK THEM OUT
I'm sorry but the way this video has been edited is the best thing I've seen on the internet today.....every single detail about every song the bgs and the voice its perfection.ty for making this video
honestly as an (ex kinda) army i love joons music so much. I feel like his, yoongis and hobis music have always stood out from the rest of the group to me. my favourite song he ever released is life from his first mixtape which like less than 5% of the fandom has actually listened to. also if you like experimental hip hop you might like jack in the box. it frustrates me so much when members of bts (rap line) release good music but no one ever talks about it despite bts being such a big group simply because its not kpop
Missed your voice! It’s nice to have you back ❤
this was a fucking fantastic video.
the editing during ive’s section (and throughout the whole
video) gave me goosebumps like holy shit..
midway through your high praise of rm’s album i went and checked it out and like thank you. because i fr, for the same reasons you said in the video, would never have looked at it otherwise and goodness your praise is well deserved.
In this day and age when my attention span is so short i can barely watch a 10 minute video. Its so amazing to be captivated by a Winterosy production. I love how immersive these videos feel
Off topic but how is no one talking about the editing of this video? The little “da da da da dun dun” to end the Ive segment, and the little lead ups when you were talking Bout a group not disappointing you. It was so clean!
Great video! Welcome back!
I really appreciated you mentioning the Sailor Moon references in "Accendio!" Sailor Moon is very close to my heart (I even have a tattoo lol) and I made a whole episode exploring that connection. 🥰
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I’ll be honest, I am a very casual kpop listener. Most of the songs I listen to are the ones that go viral. This has prevented me from actually listening and finding out what kpop can be emotionally. The first time I felt truly emotional listening to a kpop song was Either Way, and watching this video made me cry. You’ve opened my eyes to the world of kpop, not just the music, but the *art* of kpop. I’ve had so much trouble listening to full albums, my short attention span is to be blamed, but this motivates me to crack a book open and listen to these full albums with open arms! If anyone has some recommendations of underappreciated kpop albums or songs, I’ll be happily adding them to my playlist :).
- thank you
my bad for making this comment so long! i ramble easily and this video made me realize that my kpop knowledge is Super Shy, Magnetic, Butter, and Supernova. (I kinda want to listen to stuff that I “love” not just “like” you know?) I’ve been yearning for more depth in the music I listen to, and I hope this video starts my journey of finding more music that has more depth and emotion than the song I currently listen to. Of course I’ll continue to listen to Magnetic and Love Lee, but at least I’ll have more choice for when I want to turn my brain off or on when it comes to music.
p.s. i loveee the way this video is edited 💕💕 it’s so articulate and clean which make my brain and eyes VERYYY happy :)))
i’d suggest listening to other newjeans songs such as Hype Boy or Attention! also maybe check out Girl Front by Loona Odd Eye Circle and Stereotype by StayC, based on the songs you mentioned you’ll probably like these! :)
omg no yeah! after watching this video, i was so determined to thoroughly go through all of these albums and i was not disappointed!
I literally listened to Namjoon’s album a few weeks ago and loved it! Dare I say, it’s way better than the first one lol. I don’t stan Aespa, but they really turned it around. And IVE songs continue to be catchy lol despite me not stanning like as well. Welcome back btw!