This coaching session is so good. It makes a huge fucking difference when the person you're coaching is not just listening to you, but also trying to understand you and your reasons. The last session was so hard to watch, because the tutotee (?) seemed like he was unable to grasp the ideas you were trying to float and was piss-poor mechanically (I'm sure he'll get better with time).
These are amazing, unfortunately in my country 100$ is pretty much 1-2weeks of pay so i'm most likely never gonna be able to do it personally, but watching those videos really does help a lot, and it's also free, thank you!
I really like the coaching content Neace, it's impressive to see the improvement your clients are making game to game. I hope you get more coaching out of these replays, keep up the good work!
I feel like urgot isnt really a ranged matchup, I'm a nocturne top main and I have never had trouble with urgot, when I think of ranged top laners I think of the marksmen top laners like quinn vayne and teemo, those are the matchups I have trouble with if they get a kill on be pre 6
I wouldve started trading with urgot at lvl 3 and w his e the tenacity and shield let's you immediately start trading back and as long as you stay in his used legs you win trades hard and if you can time it well you can leave at a slightly better trade rinse and repeat and with you passive you hard win trades against urgot since he uses mana and q and e let's you burst some health after he engages and you e makes sure you dont hard lose on your way out
Just gonna mention this, because it happens a lot to me - basically all the time. I have two waves stacked crashing on my tower with a cannon minion and I absolutely guarantee you my jungler will THEN gank, die, and complain I didn't follow up. It is beyond my understanding how terrible some people have their understanding of the game.
If they are stacking 2-3 waves, you lose nothing from leaving for a second to ward. That many minions stacked up will kill your minions fast enough to not die themselves. You can get really good wards off, and not the standard first bush you see. Then you can plan around a dive when you see the jungle
Hmm, this dude is going back n' forth dodging Urgot E. He should be going to the side instead, since Urgot E is a line, so, dodge it perpendicularly. Good coach review.
it is always better to buy boots first? they cost the same as stinger and stinger gives you cdr. And if you buy phage next, could you not skip boots to until after triforce because of the phage passive giving ms?
Ranged matchups require for you to close gaps faster. It's not about the stinger it's about how well it plays into your kit. You run to lane faster, you dodge skillshots much easier and 10% CDR isn't impactful on a champion who doesn't rely on cooldown when his all-in is 3 buttons.
"Garen beats Urgot late game" if both champions are equal in score then no Garen does not demolish Urgot. The fact that you spin around him in a circle is a really big counter to Garen because he's rapidly going to proc his passive on you. The trick is to spin on just one or two of his legs and try not to get encircled but it's easier said than done given he has an E and Garen has no dash. Late game Urgot just goes BC DD and can no longer die to Garen's outscaled damage.
Im pretty sure hes saying lategame in teamfights, splitting and pressure you outscale him. yeah, if he builds dd bc you might not be able to kill him if even, but you can flash oneshot everybody else on the enemy team whereas he cant, and then rotate back to him and finish him with ult or sth.
Its true tho, garen gets shit on by a good urgot but after level 11 and trinity can actually all in urgot with ignite r and also garen is much better at pickping people off lategame as he can oneshot unlike urgot who is a more fixed champ
My problem with range are with the likes of a Lucian or Vayne. Urgot I dont really consider to be a range matchup since he's not as slippery. Any tips on how to beat one of those dudes?
@NEACE Hey man really love the content, I’m a fairly new player (only a couple months actual playtime), and I’d like to get in touch with you about getting some coaching but I couldn’t find an email or anything. If you could get back to me when you have some time that would be great. I don’t have twitter or anything like that. Cheers man! ✌🏼
the last 3 minutes pissed me off at this guy. how many times does he have to say dont go in and just buff the creeps. the guy acts so confused and ends up inting
I am not sure, but if you're asking to see how good he is, he got challenger with tryndamere smite + tryndamere mid. + his Gangplank is really clean also if you're interested in watching those replays
No he doesnt, urgot wins every trade just has to land e and then w and thats half their health gone. he also wins all ins cause his ult is a better execute than garens. This is a shit matcup for garen as you saw in the video he just gets shit on and depends on his jungle and urgot messing up, i wouldnt say its a counter urgots just a better champ. I'd say that garen scales better tho and at level 11 can actually all in getting his trinity and going ignite and r
@@IMRCK100 Ok I did check just to see if you have any grounds on your points and even according to match up statistics you don't, even though that doesn't even matter as there's not enough data on the match up from any meaningful elo (obviously). I play in gm/chal. If you play below D2 you should probably consider that your experiences on match ups outcomes are a result of gameplay full of mistakes from both sides and stop commenting them as facts.
I mean, this is basically free coaching for us, so a few adds are the least we can pay for this info. I personally started hard carrying inting teammates by just playing Garen right with the ideas Neace points out, so a few ads for this much info is a fair trade in my book.
@@samtalus6435 and he gets to advertise his coaching in the most valuable way possible. I guarantee his requests were flooded after the first few videos were released
A lot of missed opportunities on the coaching part. Dissect every click. Why is he moving into the north or south pocket? How is he handling the trade minion? How is the spacing? Etc.. Etc..
Man, if you are so good and above this level then maybe you shouldn't watch these videos since their purpose is mainly educative gameplay. The garen guy was really paying attention and was open to criticism to make his plays better.
Yeah, at some moments the plays from the garen dude were pissing me off so hard that i wanted to yell at the screen, but overall at leadt he’s trying to pay attention to the coaching remarks
I like how patient Neace is with whose he coaches.
He has to be, they pay him. 😂
@@angeldouch3175 You've never had a bad teacher in your life?
Faqtz because I wouldve flamed at least 3 of these players
@@iremainunimpressed1589 you are the problem then
This coaching session is so good. It makes a huge fucking difference when the person you're coaching is not just listening to you, but also trying to understand you and your reasons. The last session was so hard to watch, because the tutotee (?) seemed like he was unable to grasp the ideas you were trying to float and was piss-poor mechanically (I'm sure he'll get better with time).
tutee.
Coachee
Player, I guess?
@Thelondonbadger of course! Thank you for that
@Thelondonbadger Tutee is the proper word but student and pupil are the most common.
15:20 "keep it, its a badge of honor" BRUH LOL
These are amazing, unfortunately in my country 100$ is pretty much 1-2weeks of pay so i'm most likely never gonna be able to do it personally, but watching those videos really does help a lot, and it's also free, thank you!
What country
@@automaticcaptions That's not a country xD
That's a dump hahaha
Bruh for me that'd be 4 days and I'm a frontend developer. Mah country's a shithole XD
@@x9wozz dang bro what front ends pay that little
Great explaination of not just what to do, but WHY to get it done. That's the most important difference I see between Neace and other streams.
I really like the coaching content Neace, it's impressive to see the improvement your clients are making game to game.
I hope you get more coaching out of these replays, keep up the good work!
I feel like urgot isnt really a ranged matchup, I'm a nocturne top main and I have never had trouble with urgot, when I think of ranged top laners I think of the marksmen top laners like quinn vayne and teemo, those are the matchups I have trouble with if they get a kill on be pre 6
8:30 I love the surprised respect Neace shows the amumu haha
I wouldve started trading with urgot at lvl 3 and w his e the tenacity and shield let's you immediately start trading back and as long as you stay in his used legs you win trades hard and if you can time it well you can leave at a slightly better trade rinse and repeat and with you passive you hard win trades against urgot since he uses mana and q and e let's you burst some health after he engages and you e makes sure you dont hard lose on your way out
Definitely. As a Garen main, Urgot's actually one of my favorite matchups.
@@Nekufan1000000 And once his combo is spent, you just go in harder.. ;)
Love these coaching videos. Keep em coming I have been learning a lot
Hey NEACE, I noticed that the gold 4 player was clicking his abilities to level them up instead of using the keybinds.
That's not gold level
This is very helpfull Neace! Ty for your iniciative to post this to us. U had no obligation, and this is a paid session. Great work!
Just gonna mention this, because it happens a lot to me - basically all the time.
I have two waves stacked crashing on my tower with a cannon minion and I absolutely guarantee you my jungler will THEN gank, die, and complain I didn't follow up. It is beyond my understanding how terrible some people have their understanding of the game.
Been there...*cringe*
I had this exact mathcup and didnt do well against Urgot, this was very helpful for me thanks.
Don't play lol, but love watching neace videos 😀
1:07 No, I get dived because I am still level 5 and enemy laner is level 6 with 2-3 waves crashing into tower and I can't make wave smaller.
If they are stacking 2-3 waves, you lose nothing from leaving for a second to ward. That many minions stacked up will kill your minions fast enough to not die themselves. You can get really good wards off, and not the standard first bush you see. Then you can plan around a dive when you see the jungle
Hmm, this dude is going back n' forth dodging Urgot E. He should be going to the side instead, since Urgot E is a line, so, dodge it perpendicularly. Good coach review.
ring around the rosey
My man's out here lookin like Willem Dafoe
this shit is criminally underrated, i laughed.
do you have any tips or videos on how i can improve my farming?
Good shit
it is always better to buy boots first? they cost the same as stinger and stinger gives you cdr. And if you buy phage next, could you not skip boots to until after triforce because of the phage passive giving ms?
Ranged matchups require for you to close gaps faster. It's not about the stinger it's about how well it plays into your kit. You run to lane faster, you dodge skillshots much easier and 10% CDR isn't impactful on a champion who doesn't rely on cooldown when his all-in is 3 buttons.
"Garen beats Urgot late game" if both champions are equal in score then no Garen does not demolish Urgot. The fact that you spin around him in a circle is a really big counter to Garen because he's rapidly going to proc his passive on you. The trick is to spin on just one or two of his legs and try not to get encircled but it's easier said than done given he has an E and Garen has no dash.
Late game Urgot just goes BC DD and can no longer die to Garen's outscaled damage.
Im pretty sure hes saying lategame in teamfights, splitting and pressure you outscale him. yeah, if he builds dd bc you might not be able to kill him if even, but you can flash oneshot everybody else on the enemy team whereas he cant, and then rotate back to him and finish him with ult or sth.
Garen is so much easier to play
Its true tho, garen gets shit on by a good urgot but after level 11 and trinity can actually all in urgot with ignite r and also garen is much better at pickping people off lategame as he can oneshot unlike urgot who is a more fixed champ
My problem with range are with the likes of a Lucian or Vayne. Urgot I dont really consider to be a range matchup since he's not as slippery.
Any tips on how to beat one of those dudes?
What do you mean when you say "W to reset tri-force" ?
triforce has a passive where you get 200% base damage on next auto after using an ability
Christian Bale best coach :D
This guy played pretty well, notwithstanding the struggle to understand the baron buff. Just saying.
Neace what's your thought on wu kong
Halal champ
32:06 thank me later
@NEACE Hey man really love the content, I’m a fairly new player (only a couple months actual playtime), and I’d like to get in touch with you about getting some coaching but I couldn’t find an email or anything. If you could get back to me when you have some time that would be great. I don’t have twitter or anything like that. Cheers man! ✌🏼
the last 3 minutes pissed me off at this guy. how many times does he have to say dont go in and just buff the creeps. the guy acts so confused and ends up inting
Yeah it was so hard to watch
Anyone know Neace's highest rank?
I am not sure, but if you're asking to see how good he is, he got challenger with tryndamere smite + tryndamere mid. + his Gangplank is really clean also if you're interested in watching those replays
Bro ur got has 350 range he’s basically melee
Garen usually beats urgot until lvl 13, then he loses
No he doesnt, urgot wins every trade just has to land e and then w and thats half their health gone. he also wins all ins cause his ult is a better execute than garens. This is a shit matcup for garen as you saw in the video he just gets shit on and depends on his jungle and urgot messing up, i wouldnt say its a counter urgots just a better champ. I'd say that garen scales better tho and at level 11 can actually all in getting his trinity and going ignite and r
I don't know from what dumpster elo you get that experience but if anything it is another way around...
I meam, Google the match-up stats and you'll see urgot loses early, what elo do you play in faker?
@@IMRCK100 Ok I did check just to see if you have any grounds on your points and even according to match up statistics you don't, even though that doesn't even matter as there's not enough data on the match up from any meaningful elo (obviously). I play in gm/chal. If you play below D2 you should probably consider that your experiences on match ups outcomes are a result of gameplay full of mistakes from both sides and stop commenting them as facts.
Idk agree to disagree
Why so many ads neace bb :(
I mean, this is basically free coaching for us, so a few adds are the least we can pay for this info.
I personally started hard carrying inting teammates by just playing Garen right with the ideas Neace points out, so a few ads for this much info is a fair trade in my book.
You're getting valueable information for free. Just be happy you don't need to pay
@@samtalus6435 and he gets to advertise his coaching in the most valuable way possible. I guarantee his requests were flooded after the first few videos were released
A lot of missed opportunities on the coaching part. Dissect every click. Why is he moving into the north or south pocket? How is he handling the trade minion? How is the spacing? Etc.. Etc..
Why in every episode garen and trynda?
Because in order to climb you need macro, its easier to learn macro on garen or trynda than yasuo.
@@Synszone You are right, but I'm pretty sure the client chooses their champion
another garen coaching, as always
*another great garen coaching, as always
i really like his coachings, but as a top main who doesnt play garen, i would like to see some diversity
@@luca9751 he also coaches some trynd top
Tbh you can always learn from ranged matchups
i know, also most things he teaches are applicable to any other top champ, im just saying im bored of garen ^^
man im getting pissed of from watching this, he is not using his brain at all
anyways good job neace
Not true at all, he's trying to listen and learn from his advice. Maybe if you weren't so pessimistic you would see that.
Man, if you are so good and above this level then maybe you shouldn't watch these videos since their purpose is mainly educative gameplay. The garen guy was really paying attention and was open to criticism to make his plays better.
Yeah, at some moments the plays from the garen dude were pissing me off so hard that i wanted to yell at the screen, but overall at leadt he’s trying to pay attention to the coaching remarks
The dude Is playing with neace under his ear, I don't know what do you expect, it's a coaching video dumbass