The Swedish failure that led to Danish success. The Hovea 44 with firearms expert Jonathan Ferguson
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- Developed towards the end of the Second World War, the Hovea 44 was designed to equip Swedish super troopers. But Denmark took a chance on it and it was under their rebuild that this gunny, gunny, gunny that saw its real success.
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Even if some of us Swedes has rather big hands, the big pistol grip and trigger guard are made for be used while wearing winter gloves as it can be rather cold here in the winter. Well, it used to before climate change, -20 C wasn’t un common and even colder in the North of Sweden.
I'd imagine the plastic cheek rest is to keep your cheek from sticking to the stock in the cold.
@@molochi Nope, it's for comfort. It's a rather crude stamped metal thing so.. Not that it has any recoil anyway but. You can easily fire all 36 bullets controlled with some practice. The low rate of fire helps a lot.
@@molochi Yes, you don't want skin touching bare metal when it's well below 0.
When I did my military service back in 00/01, we had -35 during one manouver near Vuollerim^^
Correct!
fm/44 just means Trial Model 44 with 44 being the year.
All SMG's in the competition had that name so this version was the fm/44 HVA while what became the Carl Gustav m/45 was named fm/44 1a.
"försöksmodel" as it were.
They look incredibly similar to the point that if you told me that fm/44 HVA was what led to the m/45 then I would have believed that.
Jonathan referred to that 0:48 wooden prop as resembling a chocolate bar once, have not been able to unsee the image ever since!
I’m autistic and one of my specialist subjects is firearms/weaponry. your narration style and the knowledge you give is a godsend for me. Brilliant channel! ⭐️
Edit: sorry, I forgot to mention the knowledge and expertise from the comments section too, brilliant!
Another weapons special interest! You have no idea how difficult it is to find someone with the same (even though obstensibly it's not uncommon).
*your
@@El_Grincho thanks, predictive text and rushing
@@allengordon6929 no not uncommon, but yeah always a bonus if you come across someone who’s also interested in uncommon interests, just a lot of people don’t understand or understand the passion
@@MykeWintersIt’s ok to flub sometimes.
The M49 was in use up to the late 90s in the Danish army. Our Motorcycle scouts in the artillery used them. Those guys are more or less armed "on principle matter" as they operate alone and stand zero chance of standing up to enemy infantry in any other capacity than exploiting the fact they're on off road bikes that can GTFO right quick in a hurry. The M49 is, as you might imagine, exactly as reliable as its simplicity implies. It does one thing (spew bullets roughly in one direction) and it does it well.
Thanks Jonathan and team. That really does look like an upgraded STEN.
Husqvarna Motorcycles seem to have changed owners a few times since 1987 but now seem to be part of the Austrian company KTM.
They have been for some time. KTM was the logical choice. The HQ 4 stroke was a perfect fit to their range so..
Fun fact: KTMs motto "Ready to Race" was originally from Husaberg, another Husqvarna-related motorcycle manufacturer (former Hqv-employees forming the Husaberg brand after Husqvarna motorcycles was sold to Cagiva) that ended up under the KTM umbrella.
The coffinmags wasn't finnish but a swedish design for the Suomi SMG. They were probably intended as a cheaper and less cumbersome alternative to the drums. The early swedish M45 could also use them but that possibility was deleted on later versions. They were used by both Finland and Sweden but were replaced by the superior double stack, double feed 36 round mags.
Thank you for another interesting video
The M49 was still in use when I was a conscript in the Danish navy in 1996.
old and simple, but very reliable guns
the sleeve around the stock, big grip and big trigger and guard are definitely made for use in cold conditions. the grip and trigger are useable with big gloves and the sleeve prevents skin to metal contact because in really low temperatures the cold metal could freezeburn the skin if touched directly. so this gun is a winter oltimized gun.
Wasn't the large grip and trigger guard to allow for easy use with gloves?
Precisely! A trigger guard open on the bottom was tested as an alternative for the Finnish RK--62.
I was trained on the M/45 and that forward bolt-locked position was for transportation WITHOUT a magazine inserted only. It stops the bolt from bouncing around and making noise when you're walking or running etc. When "loading" the weapon you'd pull the bolt back and into the back safety notch and then you'd insert a magazine. If you insert a magazine "bolt forward" you run the risk of slipping on the loading handle and drop the bolt before it reaches the sear - and a round might (because of Murphy, who was an optimist, will) go off. So no, you wouldn't have the bolt in the forward locked position and a loaded magazine inserted. That was a severe safety violation not seen kindly to. It's an open bolt sub-machinegun so bolt-forward (locked or not) and loaded magazine inserted is a safety risk.
When did you serve? I also had a 45 Bertil as my service gun due to the AK4 was to long to carry on your back while riding a motorcycle and the AK5 wasn’t ready for service in the early 80’s? The M/45 was sooo much easier to field strip and clean then the AK4. I think it fully loaded weigh about 5 kg and as we had to carry them over our neck and in front of our cheats when we directed traffic, that could be rather uncomfortable after awhile. But an AK4 would had been a nightmare.
@@Hiznogood 1982-1983. Coastal Artillery. "Rörligt spärrkompani/120mm grantakastar-pluton". I had the B-version as well but there was no significant or important change to the previous version. We had them both in the platoon. I can also add that I was in the "Särskilda Beredskapspolisen!/Swedish Emergency Police" When it was active and was trained on the AK5. I really liked the "long" AK5 since it made instinctive shooting so much easier than the short one. But enough training would probably sort that out.
@@OLLE3770 I to served in 82-83, Trafikkompani Trängen. I later back in civilian life, worked on a power plant and was in the Driftvärn and was issued a AK4, but I preferred my old 45 Bertil. För många delar på ett spett (AK4:an)! 😉 For You non Swedish speakers at rough translation would be “to many parts on an iron rod” which make no sense at all. The meaning is it’s to complicate for a simple use.
@@Hiznogood I see your point. Never used an AK4 (H&K G3 modified) but it's a good reliable (but a tad heavy by modern standards) rifle. I got the "shooting medal" with the M/45 (not many did) so I totally agree with you. When you understand how that open bolt contraption of the M/45 works (like shooting an old spring powered air gun - I think the bolt weight in about 850 grams) you can get pretty good at it. I really liked that weapon. But that and the ammunition was heavy to lug around. The AK5 was a pleasant acquaintance, but it's also deemed a bit heavy, by modern standards. But it's excpeted to work in any weather condition.
@@OLLE3770 The AK4 is probably the best defense battle rifle there is (technically it's a carbine.. but..). The 5.56x45 is too light whereas the 7.62x51 will give you a strong emotional experience if you get hit. Simply speaking, you won't get up and your day and probably week is completely ruined. We got ours refitted with the Aimpoint sight.
We do have rather large hands compared to the rest of the body ratio.
I learned this ordering gloves from the UK, a male size medium here, is a large in the UK.
Would love to see more of these rare weapons on the range Jonathan, for, "historical" preservation on TH-cam 😂
Yep, and all our guns needs to be able to be used with thick winter gloves.
I wonder why our neighbors didn't just buy the m/45B? It was already a finished product. It came in Carlsberg green as well. 😊
😂🤣I like that ... Carlsberg green ... and it made Tuborg Red (they actually tast very good) ....
The Husqvarna factory makes, or has made, just about any contraption you could think of! Motorcycles, bicycles, lawnmowers, sewing machines, firearms, chainsaws, refridgerators, vacuum cleaners, stoves, outboard boat engines...
A general industrial manufacturer, just like FN Herstal used to be over in Belgium, and like Heckler & Koch in Germany was in their early days.
I'll never get used to how English speakers pronounce Husqvarna, by the way.
Husqvarna has a great museum with some cool guns 👍🏻
I didn't know Husqvarna made bikes, I associate them with sewing machines haha. You learn something new every day.
Weren't they among the Sweden's large home appliance manufacturers overall? I vaguely recall some mentions of a Husqvarna lawn mower, which title would certainly fit this gun here.
Husqvarna made firearms, bicycles, motorbikes, sewing machines and meatgrinders, and a lot more. But the motorised lawnmowers and washing machines didn't come out until Electrolux bought Husqverna and the firearms side of the company got merged into Carl Gustav afaik
@@F1ghteR41 They are a huge manufacturer of chainsaws and robot lawn movers nowadays
I actually got a kpist m/45 introduction even though my main weapon was another. The instructor was very adamant on the consequences if used with a battery. No, it was not electric in any way - but the tube could precisely fit a D-cell battery you could put in the back... Which greatly increased the firing rate - to the extent to sometimes crush both the shells coming out as well as as being too fast to push the new round properly... so NOT allowed and would generate orders to do an excessive amount of burpees or similar physical punishment (which was standard at the time) ! ;)
The "coffin" magazine is a Swedish design made for the Swedish version of the Suomi, Kulsprutepistol m/37-39. Also used by Finland until replaced in around 1943 by the 71 round drum. If im not wrong, designed by Carl-Gustaf together with a company named Linde, who was also involved in the much more succsessful 36 shot magazine for the m/45, and to turn full cirkle, the Finnish army replaced some types of magazines for the Suomi with the Swedish 36 round mag postwar.
Well, if I hear Husqvarna I think of chainsaws! 🤣
Or bikes 😊
I have a chainsaw and I used to have a couple of the 96 rifles made by them. Worst mistake I made was selling them off.
Don't they make Lawnmowers aswell?
I knew the Hovea was a danish gun very similar to kpist45, but had no idea it was a Husqvarna, and the name Hoeva was just the fonetic for the short spelling of the town HVA, Hå-Ve-A
Husqvarna Vapenfabriks Aktiebolag
the cheek polymer cover is probably to protect the shooter from the freezing metal during the winter. i don't remember examples but i do recall other Scandinavian weaponry using protective cover for where bare metal meets the face of the shooter cause during the winter the weather gets so cold that the skin of the cheek some times sticks on the frozen metal of the gun, so some form, of protection is a must for many of the firearms of that general area.
Also that stock retraction looks a lot like a bipod retraction system.
Bit late here, but is there any particular reason wood couldn't be used instead of polymer? Weight/strength/size ratio is the only reason I can think of.
@@brentsaner its not really that it couldn't It is more that it would make things more complex i imagine. It would need more space and its heavier , harder to work with and more time consuming in a production level and more expensive. Almost all weapon designs turned to polymers and plastics when they started getting used. Wood was always kind of a " it's not great but it works and it's all we have" solution.
That's pretty cool learning history on things such as this.
The Husqvarna (original) logo is by the way the sights of a gun as the enemy sees it. It's been stylized but you can see the inheritance.
On the older logo I can see a resemblance to the sights of a rifle. But the really old logo has a king’s crown on top. Are you sure the presentday logo isn’t a stylized crown?
@@anderspedersen7488 Not sure, but the logo from the 1600-ish features the “the sight over the barrel”. The logos with the royal crowns are later (early/mid 1900?). Then we're back to the "three prongs" (1970-ish). Maybe I'm wrong, wouldn't be the first time. The first logo has no "H" in it. Probably because the company was founded in Jönköping (allegedly) 1620 and then later moved to the nearby town Husqvarna.
@@OLLE3770 Yeah, we would probably have to talk to Husqvarna themselves to find out. But it is always nice too see how things evolve in such an old, storied company.
The background... Holy shit!
All the EM-2 rifles! 🤯
Huge grip and trigger allows for use with winter gloves 👍🏻
The Carl G ‘Swedish K’ is my favourite firearm of all time. Simple, elegant functionality, decent ergonomics (though the grip is a bit too big for most), intuitive manual of arms.
"Have you been playing ..." Man for a short second I expected this gun to have been featured in a game ☹️
Our motorcyle troops in the Danish artillery, still used that smg when i served in 2001.
As a surfer might say; this gun is totally tubular!
I did a double-take at your thumbnail. At first I thought you'd done a video on the Kp44, but of course it isn't, not quite. What an interesting bit of history!
Husqvarna is now owned by KTM that is a Austrian company
It is Husqvarna Motorcycles that's owned by KTM, to clarify for other viewers :)
Im swedish had no idea Husqvarna started out as a gunmaker (they haven't made a gun in my lifetime, last one was 1989). They have been around for a long time as well according to Wikipedia. Would be cool to see more stuff from them if you have it!
If you ever find yourself in Huskvarna or Jönköping, I highly recommend the Husqvarna museum! Firearms from the 17th century and forward, and of course everything else that they have manufactured during the years (Chainsaws, motorcycles, kitchen appliances, lawn mowers etc)
It would be great if Jonathan mentions the weight of the weapons, especially the HMGs.
1:54 No, this is a SWEDISH magazine for the Suomi smg, designed in its first iteration in 1937 in Sweden, in '39 it was redesigned for 9x19 and in 1941 Finland also adopted the magazine
As well as motorbikes & firearms Husqvarna are pretty famous for their sewing machines & forestry equipment like chainsaws, strimmers, axes...etc. When I was a forester I always preferred Husqvarna chainsaws, they were really reliable workhorses when it came to cutting. I was also lucky enough to own an ex military Husqvarna 258 motorbike. It could be equipped with skis for winter use.
Speaking of axes, could you say how are their axes stacked against those of, say, Gränsfors Bruk? Is there a perceivable difference in quality or usability?
@@F1ghteR41 There's a huge love for Gränsfors Bruk out there, understandably so as they make great products. Though probably the main reason they're so sought after is because Ray Mears likes them & fanboys gotta fanboy. (I think he's excellent too). Personally I use the Husqvarna version of "the forest axe", as far as I can tell G.B. axes have a slightly harder steel, so you should warm them in really cold weather to stop chipping or breakage. I rework the edge & profile on all my axes & my Husq works as well as my G.B.'s did. Handles on both types have always been excellent, though always check it over before you buy. As I tended to look after my axes, polish, sharpen...etc people offered me money for the G.B. axes I owned. Not wanting to keep a wall hanger for no reason & because through health I'm not out as much I only keep my one working axe & my double bit throwing axe from my competition days.
Like any tool, see what feels comfortable for you, adapt it if necessary & learn to use it. My Husqvarna, though less money works as well for snedding, felling small trees, chopping wood & other camp tasks as my pricier G.B. axes did. I doubt most users could tell the difference once the logos are off. The edges don't easily chip & don't roll over like a lot of soft steel bargain ones. So I'd happily say buy either, but you won't be disappointed in performance with the less expensive Husqvarna, you just won't have the "bushcraft bragging rights" of having the "Wunderwaffe" G.B. axes that R.M. uses.
Hope my tuppence worth helps?
@@Getpojke Thanks for your excellent reply!
And if you look at the husqvarna logo, the three points at the top of the box the H is in, they are meant to represent an iron sight.
I served in the danish army from 84 to 85.. The first 6 months I was issued the M50 (M1 Garand) and subsequently M49 as I served in Medical Unit.
I enjoyed the video, and you mentioned the Swedish K, most memorable in the assignation of Anwar Sadat.
The cleansyness of tablecloth needs way more attention in firearms design.
Regarding the barrel, is there a catch or other way to ensure the barrel is indexed properly in order to make sur the thing is headspaced right and so on when reassembled ?
Yes the large trigger guard is to allow for gloves to stop your fingers freezing to the metal trigger or the trigger guard in the cold icy winter conditions. Sounds like just the thing to use in the dense conifer forests in close quarters fighting in amongst the tree trunks.
If it can take the 50 round Suomi coffin mag it can take the 71 round drum. The later 36 round stick mag is one of the most reliable 9mm magazines of that period and even into the 1960's. Just harder to load than a newer 2 position feed one. The slightly triangular cross section of the magazines allows for a lot of extra movement and less friction on the magazine walls. It makes it much more reliable when the magazines are dirty or when they are in the freezing cold of Scandinavia and the arctic circle.
The 36 round mag was almost instantly refilled by using the loader and a box of bullets.
Nice looking SMG
That cam track is right on the border to becoming a thread.
Husqvarna also made very high quality sewing machines. At one point in the early 70's my stepdad was racing a Husky 400 WR, and my Mom was sewing on a very expensive Husky sewing machine!
There's an antique Husqvarna sewing machine somewhere around here, and it's a hell of a piece of equipment. It's of those manual pedal operated ones, so I guess it's like the crank operated Gatling gun to the later fully automated ones, lol.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine That's a good analogy, because - according to people who saw a lot with these old machines (like Bernadette Banner) - one needs to get into the tempo to work with them, and it's basically the main complaint about the various manually operated mitralleuse systems.
Pretty certain one of these was retooled as a Laser Rifle in the Original Trilogy Star Wars Movies.
No, that is a different gun. The one you are looking for is CETME C2 submachine gun.
@@azynkron That's the one that became the E11 Blaster (Standard Issue Stormtrooper Riflie) I'm thinking the Hovea ended up as the Rifle for one of the Bounty Hunters in ESB
You're both incorrect, the E11 blasters were made from British Sterling subguns.
1:39 The reason being - for those who don't know already - the friction between the rounds themselves and against magazine walls.
3:17 I presume - to allow better use with gloves in cold weather.
6:21 Wouldn't it be much simpler to just move the fire control assembly forwards and place the stock latch under the receiver, with the stock folding to the side? It would certainly be a bit less bulky, and quite possibly also easier to make, and the side-folding stocks were known on Scandinavian market for some three decades already by that point. Although the final version of the stock seems to be an even simpler and better design.
17:27 Weren't most of the large European firearms manufacturers bicycle or motorcycle manufacturers at some point? BSA, Manufrance, FN, ČZ, one of the Izhevsk plants and the Kovrov one as well, and I probably forgot most others.
You are correct on the 3:17 guess. some guns were modified with bigger triggers for glove users in winter. The AUG and FAMAS are a pair of examples for this.
@@cvmaniac7286 Yes, I'm aware of these, as well as folding trigger guards on the Finnish AKs, that's why I made my guess.
FN and H&K also made bikes and mopeds, pretty typical fare, goods in demand which they could easily produce.
@@F1ghteR41 It's a little known feature, but the AR15 / M16 family also has a winter trigger guard, you press the springloaded pin holding one end and then it can fold down.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine HK made bikes? Never heard of it.
all I said to the game was "a good video" and I think I am right. cool looking SMG you covered.
I have a Husqvarna chain saw. Perhaps it could be converted into a submachine gun if required. I’m wondering about the reported characteristics that resulted in the selection of the Carl Gustaf gun over the Husqvarna as the seem so similar.
The HVA “Danish” version seems, as you point out, is very similar to the M/45 Carl Gustaf.
Bolt is different. Some minor changes to the tube and handgard.
And I think you might convert your Husqvarna chainsaw to a chain gun 😂
the bolt-lock is incorperated into the M49, you push the cocking handle into the barrel,and it will lock the bolt!!!!!
I haven't actually heard the name Hovea so I don't really know how to pronounce it.
The Finnish 50rd coffin magazine itself is a pretty cool item (I'm sure there's another, but it's the earliest quad stack mag I can think of), though both the Swedish and Finnish armies concluded that they never quite worked as well as the normal double stacked magazines or the large 72rd drums often used with the Finnish Kp/31. That drum is pretty hefty, but they really run extremely well and offer very high capacity, making up for their weight somewhat, they make a lot of sense with the Kp/31's high cyclic rate, and are an interesting combination with the later Kp/44's more easy going cyclic rate.
Hovea = hva = HusqVarnA ... though it would been clearer as Håvea.
i love guns that are the most literal definition of "tube that shoots bullets"
Looks like a Prototype M/45? Uses suomi mags aswell and similar in pretty much every part
Its always a huge pleasure when I see a UK channel talking guns. Ha to you USA bods. We got there first
This is where KelTec got the design for the sub 2000.
Husqvarna makes a lot of stuff, and always great quality: sewing machines, chainsaws too.
there were only 10 Hovea M/44 build to compete against Carl Gustav M/45 ... 'Svenska K' won and first in late 1949 the M/44 got in eyesight of the Danes, they got a license and made 750 in early 1950 naming it 'maskinpistol M/49' .. In all about 16.000 was made by 'Hærens Våbenarsenal'
"Chunky Pistol Grip" would be a great band name.
So the Ikea smg has a slim butt 😂
The name "Hovea" comes from a phonetic pronunciation of the test name. The company that entered this gun into the submachine gun trials, was Husqvarna Vapenfabrik AB, shortened to HVA, which in turn would have been pronounced "Hå-Ve-A". Hovea.
Would not the "taller" rear sight be for closer ranges (as it gives a steeper angle to intersect with the barrel)?
Are these firearms from the MOD O Pattern Room?
Getting some serious Swedish K vibes with that quad stack mag and the barrel shroud/grip. I love the swedish K, the bad guy gun for all my older comic book villains. Also whoever made the video description.. Well done...
Yeah they look very similar to the KPist 45B (Swedish K). I had the later as my service weapon in the early 80’s during my conscripted military service here in Sweden as it was the only gun you could carry riding a motorbike. The AK4 was to long and the AK5C with the folding butt stock hadn’t entered service yet.
The KPist 45B was a reliant gun and easy to shot, much more then our Husqvarna motorbikes that was crap as they always broke down!
@@Hiznogood I guess that's why this video was the first time I've heard of their bikes. 🙂
Jokes aside, how do you find the stock on the m/45 in cold weather?
@@F1ghteR41 Ehr.. never heard of Husqvarna? Their enduro bikes are legendary. They are now owned by KTM.
@@azynkron I'm not into bikes, so that might explain my ignorance.
Alright just checking here: did everybody get the ABBA reference in the thumbnail?
Most based ABBA fan
@@KieferSmokerlandOxymoron. No such thing as a based ABBA fan.
@@Chiller11Ohhh my appreciation of late 70s Swedish discopop begs to disagree, lol.
I am swedish and I don't know how we would pronounce it either XD
"Swedish People of a Suitable Vintage" sounds like Ferguson's upcoming debut romantic single, releasing on all streaming platforms on August 32nd.
How come Denmark choose this model and not the Swedish-K? They seem so similar.
Actually you were showing the ejector not the extractor.
Whereas the Swedes had the Swedish K, the Danes had the M49 and the Finns had the Suomi, the Norwegians did not design a new SMG in the post-WW2 years; we simply used the vast amounts of MP40 SMGs left behind by the occupying Germans.
Husqvarna also makes various motorised gardening tools and protection gear.
I didn't know they make bikes as well.
They made all sorts of useful stuff, in fact it was common for big name European arms makers to dabble on the side with making bikes, mopeds, tools and powertools, etc, etc. Husqvarna in Sweden is one, you also have FN Herstal in Belgium, H&K in Germany, CZ in Czechoslovakia, Izhevsk in Russia, and so on. Particularly after both of the big world wars, they'd put a lot of focus on those kinds of consumer goods.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine I know BSA in Britain made bikes, too - only due to Werner comics which are famous here in Germany.
So famous some of the one-liners from the 1st movie made it into every-day German language.
For instance instead of saying "I'm the plumber" it is very common to say "I'm gas, water - sh*t"🤣
I wonder how reliable it was?
My question is, of those em 2's behind you, how many has Ian held
I think with all of these corrections, Jonathan may be back to being an apprentice with fire arms and artillery.
I don't think this video is that high in terms of number of corrections, to be fair with you, it seems to me that these are more like useful sidenotes.
I think i only ever heard from Huskvarna through gardentools (think lawnmower and such machines) and outdoor gear... they make bikes and guns too?
Technically it's made not make. By now both those arms of the business has been sold off.
Another great intro to yet another weapon of which I was not aware.
I'm often surprised when a gun that by all indications would be reliable, is then paired with a quad-stack mag. It's like if Toyota sourced their spark plugs from Chinese Happy Good Time plastic dog poop and spark plug company.
I think you have to cut them some slag, that was probably about the first time quadstacks came around.
If Husqvarna had added one of their pruning chainsaws on the front, it could be a proto mini boltgun. Just saying...
motorcycles i know `em from chainsaws!! got a Madson M50 handy?
Nothing to do no where to go! I wanna be educated!
Looking at the thumbnail... my brain cannot comprehend how it's an SMG. It looks like just a piece of pipe with a magazine, buttstock, and trigger assembly. It looks fake. WILD
It would be pronounced something like "Hoh-Vee-Ah" tho it's hard to tell when it comes to English accents sometime
Husqvarna Vapenfabriks Aktiebolag.
Forget the tablecloth just don't damage the prototype gun lol
I have a question. besides this channel of course. can anyone recommend good ressources (books and such) about guns, their history, their mechanics and so on. especially those around the two world wars and/or those that are a little special when it comes to how they work. I would even be happy with something general on guns, ammo and how it all works.
Well, for starters, there's a wonderful channel here on YT called C&Rsenal, I cannot recommend it enough. They have possibly the most in-depth look on the WW1 firearms and their context, and to some extent weapons before and slightly after the period as well.
As for the books, the all-encompassing ones tend to loose in quality, but get reprinted the most, while the specialised ones are often overpriced and hardly available. E.g. 'Handguns of the World' by E. C. Ezell would get you the scope, but the sheer amount of historical research done by the C&Rcenal team makes most of his revolver entries look rather poor & outdated, not to say plainly incorrect. The better-researched encyclopedic publications usually focus on one nation or manufacturer only, and in this regard I could recommend Ian McCollum's 'French military rifles 1866-2016', but you might've heard of it already. And, of course, there are academic publications on the whole process of gun adoption, like M. C. Ford's PhD thesis 'The British Army and the Politics of Rifle Development, 1880 to 1986', avaliable online free of charge and also reprinted into a book with a flashy cover & title a few years ago.
On the other hand, specialized books on the exact models or lineages of guns might be well worth a read, if not for the price. Having not read Jonathan's book on C96, I would otherwise warn you against Osprey weapon series, which is more affordable, but when it comes to firearms, it tends to be rather poorly researched and to repeat age-old stereotypes or even propaganda tropes.
I would cautiously recommend you to watch through Ian McCollum's series of book reviews over at Forgotten Weapons channel to get a hold of what to look for, although it might be wise to check the comments there as well.
_PS_ If you speak any language other than English, it might be worth checking some literature in that language as well. As far as I'm aware, publications in German might be somewhat iffy, but the French articles are highly praised, so are many publications in Russian, and Spanish would prove very useful for reading on obscure cartridges online.
Someone probably lost facial hair to the metal stock in the winter. It Freezes to you .. and decided to cover it with plastic
Husqvarna is also manufactures chainsaws and other types of outdoor power equipment, tractors and the like.
Covid really seems to have made a mess of their operations though.
Either that or they decided to stop manufacturing stuff in America and move those operations to Brazil.
If IKEA made an SMG....?
Was the American Smith and Wesson model 76 a direct copy from the Swedish K? At the least, it seems derivative. I know that it has a better fire control group and is a bit handier, but nothing else, really. I've never held or fired either. I once worked with a gunsmith who was a huge fan of the 76. I've fired and owned many interesting pieces over a long life, but never those. I've used a Husqvarna lawn mower for many years. Great machine and easy to repair.
It is certainly a derivative of m/45, that's why it was designed in the first place - the Swedes stopped their export to the States in response to the escalation of the Vietnam war, and Uncle Sam wanted to get the SMGs anyway. Although, as far as I've read, the S&W ones turned up quite a bit worse than originals: lots of stoppages, poor accuracy due to the different barrel fixation mechanism and an uncomfortable shoulder stock.
@@F1ghteR41 They don't really have that many problems with functioning, much of the less stellar reputation comes from a later commercial market clone called the Mk.760, and most of the full auto examples of those were actually rebuilt Sten guns.
The actual Smith & Wesson ones run very well, they can even use Swedish and Finnish magazines if you modify those slightly, and that's commonly done by those who own them (I've seen a few with adapted Finnish drums). The barrel having no strictly fixed position when held down by the screwed on shroud isn't perfect, but it really doesn't move when assembled and it doesn't have very much effect on precision. The stock IS less nice however.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine I knew that German article was bullsh*tting me somewhere! Thanks for correction anyway.
the large grip and the large trigger guard are for use with gloves........Duh
No We Have Sten Gun At Home
Hovea M/44, so it wasn't the M/49 I thought it was.
But it was a very good guess anyway. I had no clue what I'm looking at, besides that it looks like a Finnish KP m/44, and the barrel jacket reminds me of the Swedish m/45. Shows poor knowledge of Danish firearms on my part, I know.
@@F1ghteR41 I know many Danish weapons, but it's the Madsen LMG models that make me confused.
There are too many of them, because they were made from 1902 until 1955 and used in at least 90 different countries, chambered in 34 different calibers, and some of them are still used today.
@@Winkler_B_Rudolf_1911 But at least they're recognizable as a type, whereas with, say, Danish handguns you need to know exactly what you're dealing with, because these things don't show up abroad all that much.
I liked how Johnathan was on Cunk and had to sit with a straight face and they barely used two seconds of footage
I love how it looks. Curse the age of polymers!
🇫🇮hoped that 🇸🇪buy their Kp-44 smg. Swede’s did not😂
It was just Sudajev made to shoot West ammo 9x19 , DUX smg West German border guard was interested.
Looks like a swedish m45 that you show on the end. Its swedish not danish
Why quadstack kaskets the same length as a standard mags don't exist is kind of beyond me. You don't need obscene amounts of ammunition on a surface rifle, so why go for the giant bannnana kasketz anyways?
Quadstacks are a permanent reliability issue. They have a lot of friction between rounds and with the magazine as well, and when they're struck from below (when falling into the prone position, for example), the follower tends to tilt out of alignment and spill the ammo. There's a video by Max Popenker here on YT demonstrating this effect on various models of quadstacks.
@@F1ghteR41 wouldn't a shortened magazine and therefore shortened stacks help? I''d assume they would.
@@allengordon6929 You'd still have reliability issues from a lot of friction.
@@F1ghteR41 oil and glide metal would help with that. Also, some kind of rub as well.
@@allengordon6929 Oil would certainly *not* help with that, since it would collect dust and make everything even stickier. Glide metal? Aren't the cases basically that already?
I take it they didn't get their man after midnight did they.
im a swede and im pretty sure "Hovea" isnt even a real word
and chainesaws
“Gimme, gimme, gimme a machine gun from Sweden
It’s name is complicated so we call it the k”
SWEDISH WIN!!! YOU'RE COAL!!!
The Swedes made a Sten, and they didn't call it Sven? Missed opportunity.
My father doesn’t have a single positive word about k-pisten so I wonder what he would have said if he got one of those instead. And your pronunciation of Husqvarna is pretty good but put less pronunciation and softer on the S, longer U and a softer Q so instead of it being HuSSQvarna the pronunciation should be more like Huuskvarna. And don’t do as the Americans that pronounce it with hard As
That's likely because he sucked badly. M45/B is a really good gun. Reliable, controllable and easy to repair and maintain. It wasn't the guns fault that he sucked.
@@azynkron could also be that he thought the caliber was to weak for anything but a pistol and they weren’t maintained because they were fazed out of service in favour for the ak4 and 9mm doesn’t preform that well on 100m with a good gun. And how much experience do you have behind one of the airforces old shot out k-pistar to say he sucked so bad??
Much can depend on where in the service life of the firearm it was issued to any given soldier. What may have started as a well designed weapon when new could be beat to hell with weak springs and worn friction surfaces by the time some poor sod gets it handed to him/her.
@@Chiller11 yes thats what I tried to explain to the other guy. My father’s two major complaints was that it was a pistol caliber and he was a driver so they weren’t given the best stuff so the ones they got was worn to hell he even got one with a slightly bent barrel during target practice once. They were probably also one of the last batches to receive them because the ak5 was introduced a few years later