What you mean. It's because if Russia. Or are you taking a jab at natives because you suck at fishing with a rod? It's their right to fish with nets. Just say you're a racist pos
@@jacttackle57 OK Boomer. The problem began when Daniel Evans (R) rolled over for the Green New Deal, and created Evergreen State College to turn out fresh hemp-sack wokens. The poofs and wikkans permeate all levels of Olympia like gribbles and leeches. It has nothing to do with the tiny remaining commercial fishery in WA.
Disagree in part at what was said about hatcheries not making a difference. There's so many other factors... Hatcheries are the reason any fish are still here on dammed up rivers and rivers or creeks with highways on them. If we didn't have them, there wouldn't be many fish at all. There's no habitat left. There's roads along every river system. Take a look at the tribes and how they raise fish. Check out the Quinault hatchery and the Hanford Reach stretch of the Columbia. You will see why the runs there are strong. Until the dams go and habitats are intact hatcheries are the best choice in my opinion to keep salmon and steelhead around for cultural purposes, economy, and for the enjoyment of recreating.
@nunliski I have watched, read and talked with several who would disagree. Hatcheries can make a stronger fish. Did you look into what I talked about? There are hatcheries that operate differently than most. To each their own opinion. I see both sides of the coin here. Check out hatchery-wild co-exist. 🎣
Out of all the eggs that are layed only one of those eggs return back to the river to spawn if you think that a hatchery fish with birth defects or genetic defects is going to go into the ocean live I'm feed for a few years and return to the river to spawn ?? Not a chance only the best genes are going to survive wether its hatchery or native all the hatchery does is try to make it so instead pf one egg making it back to spawn its 2 or three eggs. Hopefully that makes sense. I'd love to see hatch boxes used again and more private funded fish hatcheries and a little more attention to detail on the commercial fishing vessels that catch salmon as by catch hatcheries are absolutely not the problem and can produce salmon in a natural way.
Whether a fish is hatchery raised or wild, if it makes it all the way back to spawning grounds, its genetics are superior. Broodstock programs are using wild genetics for production anyway, and there aren’t any pure wild genetics any more. Good information in this video, I just wish people would stop saying that blowing up dams and hatcheries will solve our problems.
Salmon survived many climate changes, dams, over fishing, pollution, blocked and diverted rivers, floods, earthquakes, fires, avalanches, tidal waves, etc. Save man.
Every species alive today survived 4000 ppm torrid heat and three intermittent ice ages. After 2023 longest rainiest snowiest COLDEST Winter since the 1880s, it will be interesting to see the first 2025 pink salmon returns. If they are way up, WDFW will talk about 'ideal' ocean conditions. If they are way down, WDFW will caw-caw-caw around Climate Chains, _because Ecology gets a cut of Insley's unconstitutional carbon tax and CC&T auctions!_
Money still matters more. It will always be most important. Even after death, they still extract money from you. The fish will find a way to survive. Humans. Not so much.
We're witnessing the downfall of human society Right Now! To seriously address the various ecosystem collapses going on, we need a huge decline in human numbers and a return to a sustainable standard of living.
Archeologists have discovered many truths about human population rise and fall. I believe you will whiteness a sudden decline in human populations worldwide. With so many things going on currently. It won’t take Mother Natures wrath to assist it over the tipping point. Money won’t be able to fix things after that. I’m not generally a pessimistic person. But the simple facts in total world wide are to compelling to argue against anymore.
Escapement numbers have been and continue to be on the decline. Where I worked, in Canada, indigenous people and sport fishermen were battling over paltry returns ( in terms of Chinook, the Yukon River Panel determined at the time an escapement goal of 2000 for chinook on the Alsek/ Tatsheshini R.) while the Alaska commercial fishery was pulling in 90,000 fish. Gave a commercial fisherman who was hitchhiking back to Oregon a ride- told me he only worked couple months but made enough during the season that he could go travel. In a report to the Yukon River Panel, there was a recommendation to buy back fishing licenses to allow for more fish to reach spawning grounds in Canada- ignored. There are very specific parameters for spawning streams, from the size of aggregates in the channel, flow (veolocity), water quality, and couple other limiting factors, most important, given the ongoing challenges with climate- water temperature. In 2021 it is estimated that over a billion (yeah! - billion) marine mammals died from the Heat Dome that hit the Pacific Northwest. Consider, the food that smaller fish eat, located in the near shore (littoral zone) have no where to go, and are killed off- what's left to eat? Is it any wonder with all the other problems, like dams, development, over irrigation drawing down streams. etc etc etc Cut back the harvest of wild stocks and give them a chance- and yes the climate has changed over millennia and eons, but the fish had a chance to adapt. But this "rate of change" in the temperature is outside of historical norms and beyond adaptation...
Part of those costs include loss of sustainable power, and loss of our standard of living. Humans are addicted to all the conveniences of modern day living. To the point of various ecosystem collapses. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
Tribal Netting. Commercial Netting. Sea Lions. Until we reduce all three, Hatcheries are the Salmons best bet for survival. Even then, with 6 decades of introgression, most Coho & Chinook are all hatchery produced fish whether adipose is clipped or not.
WA and BC hatchery operations have completely different Cost-per-Return rate. Why is that? Because WA State is poaching everything to refill their pension fund *they looted.* Hatcheries should be eliminated, on a heirarchy of Cost-per-Return. WDFW claim the 'sub-species' are unique, but that's a lie. Records show Eastern WA were wiped out by the early settlers ditch irrigation, then repopulated later _with N CA salmon, all from one system._ Let Natives rear the salmon they depend on. It's low tech. We can't afford State 'workers'.
Or the pike-minnow fishery that WDFW created. Pike-minnows eat salmon fry. That's seems fine. Or selling WA's smelt, herring and forage fish to Australia for net pen tuna. Or allowing an annual quota of deadly industrial waste products to be dumped into the river.
@@Xfishf00D What truth are you talking about ??? The truth you assumed . Some people are built that way or have some hormonal imbalance that makes them put on weight . Don't make false assumptions or slander people without truly knowing . It will come back to bite you but I will pray that God shows you mercy .
@KarunanithiNRamachandran first off you and your modern society has caused the decline in salmon population. eating them is not even necessary for survival. Second, the same modern society caused that "hormonal imbalance" and double fisting twinkies doesn't help. Some people are built differently but at the same time you should take notice at some point and get off the couch and stop eating ice cream and drinking soda. Bottom line is we are all responsible for the world around us and I won't blame others for what I have contributed to. You might want to stay off public forums if you can't take ridicule
I just watched a pbs show on the salmon disappearing. When you build a dam this is what's gonna happen, that and over fishing I'm sure. A couple of bird colonies are doing real well and the seals have figured out how to get an easy meal! Probably a billion dollars spent on saving of the salmon species! Just so man can make a living and assure the species survive. I also want to say, I hate eating salmon, so don't blame me when they're gone. I love the species themselves but not the flavor.
Our fish are netted by commercial operation in northern Washington, Canada, and Alaska. Maybe you should do some research before calling yourself an expert and making a youtube video.
How did this piece skip over commercial netting?
What you mean. It's because if Russia. Or are you taking a jab at natives because you suck at fishing with a rod? It's their right to fish with nets. Just say you're a racist pos
The commercial fishing industry of the pnw makes large campaign contributions to the democrat party this buys a lot of silence and misdirection
Oh you mean the big producers of dead salmon, nothing to see here folks move along.
@@jacttackle57 OK Boomer. The problem began when Daniel Evans (R) rolled over for the Green New Deal, and created Evergreen State College to turn out fresh hemp-sack wokens. The poofs and wikkans permeate all levels of Olympia like gribbles and leeches. It has nothing to do with the tiny remaining commercial fishery in WA.
Because the big guy gets his cut first.
Disagree in part at what was said about hatcheries not making a difference. There's so many other factors... Hatcheries are the reason any fish are still here on dammed up rivers and rivers or creeks with highways on them. If we didn't have them, there wouldn't be many fish at all. There's no habitat left. There's roads along every river system. Take a look at the tribes and how they raise fish. Check out the Quinault hatchery and the Hanford Reach stretch of the Columbia. You will see why the runs there are strong. Until the dams go and habitats are intact hatcheries are the best choice in my opinion to keep salmon and steelhead around for cultural purposes, economy, and for the enjoyment of recreating.
Hatcheries do make a difference, a negative difference. Did you watch the video?
@nunliski I have watched, read and talked with several who would disagree. Hatcheries can make a stronger fish. Did you look into what I talked about? There are hatcheries that operate differently than most. To each their own opinion. I see both sides of the coin here. Check out hatchery-wild co-exist. 🎣
@nunliski may I ask if you live in the Pacific Northwest? Thanks for the discussion!
Out of all the eggs that are layed only one of those eggs return back to the river to spawn if you think that a hatchery fish with birth defects or genetic defects is going to go into the ocean live I'm feed for a few years and return to the river to spawn ?? Not a chance only the best genes are going to survive wether its hatchery or native all the hatchery does is try to make it so instead pf one egg making it back to spawn its 2 or three eggs. Hopefully that makes sense. I'd love to see hatch boxes used again and more private funded fish hatcheries and a little more attention to detail on the commercial fishing vessels that catch salmon as by catch hatcheries are absolutely not the problem and can produce salmon in a natural way.
Whether a fish is hatchery raised or wild, if it makes it all the way back to spawning grounds, its genetics are superior. Broodstock programs are using wild genetics for production anyway, and there aren’t any pure wild genetics any more. Good information in this video, I just wish people would stop saying that blowing up dams and hatcheries will solve our problems.
Salmon survived many climate changes, dams, over fishing, pollution, blocked and diverted rivers, floods, earthquakes, fires, avalanches, tidal waves, etc. Save man.
EXACTLY
Every species alive today survived 4000 ppm torrid heat and three intermittent ice ages. After 2023 longest rainiest snowiest COLDEST Winter since the 1880s, it will be interesting to see the first 2025 pink salmon returns. If they are way up, WDFW will talk about 'ideal' ocean conditions. If they are way down, WDFW will caw-caw-caw around Climate Chains, _because Ecology gets a cut of Insley's unconstitutional carbon tax and CC&T auctions!_
@@robertmarmaduke186 What is a CC&T auction? Are you talking about the Cap & Invest program?
Money still matters more. It will always be most important. Even after death, they still extract money from you. The fish will find a way to survive. Humans. Not so much.
We're witnessing the downfall of human society Right Now! To seriously address the various ecosystem collapses going on, we need a huge decline in human numbers and a return to a sustainable standard of living.
Archeologists have discovered many truths about human population rise and fall. I believe you will whiteness a sudden decline in human populations worldwide. With so many things going on currently. It won’t take Mother Natures wrath to assist it over the tipping point. Money won’t be able to fix things after that. I’m not generally a pessimistic person. But the simple facts in total world wide are to compelling to argue against anymore.
Escapement numbers have been and continue to be on the decline. Where I worked, in Canada, indigenous people and sport fishermen were battling over paltry returns ( in terms of Chinook, the Yukon River Panel determined at the time an escapement goal of 2000 for chinook on the Alsek/ Tatsheshini R.) while the Alaska commercial fishery was pulling in 90,000 fish. Gave a commercial fisherman who was hitchhiking back to Oregon a ride- told me he only worked couple months but made enough during the season that he could go travel. In a report to the Yukon River Panel, there was a recommendation to buy back fishing licenses to allow for more fish to reach spawning grounds in Canada- ignored. There are very specific parameters for spawning streams, from the size of aggregates in the channel, flow (veolocity), water quality, and couple other limiting factors, most important, given the ongoing challenges with climate- water temperature. In 2021 it is estimated that over a billion (yeah! - billion) marine mammals died from the Heat Dome that hit the Pacific Northwest. Consider, the food that smaller fish eat, located in the near shore (littoral zone) have no where to go, and are killed off- what's left to eat? Is it any wonder with all the other problems, like dams, development, over irrigation drawing down streams. etc etc etc
Cut back the harvest of wild stocks and give them a chance- and yes the climate has changed over millennia and eons, but the fish had a chance to adapt. But this "rate of change" in the temperature is outside of historical norms and beyond adaptation...
Protect those salmon within all reasonable cost
Part of those costs include loss of sustainable power, and loss of our standard of living. Humans are addicted to all the conveniences of modern day living. To the point of various ecosystem collapses. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
Tribal Netting. Commercial Netting. Sea Lions. Until we reduce all three, Hatcheries are the Salmons best bet for survival. Even then, with 6 decades of introgression, most Coho & Chinook are all hatchery produced fish whether adipose is clipped or not.
WA and BC hatchery operations have completely different Cost-per-Return rate. Why is that? Because WA State is poaching everything to refill their pension fund *they looted.* Hatcheries should be eliminated, on a heirarchy of Cost-per-Return. WDFW claim the 'sub-species' are unique, but that's a lie. Records show Eastern WA were wiped out by the early settlers ditch irrigation, then repopulated later _with N CA salmon, all from one system._ Let Natives rear the salmon they depend on. It's low tech. We can't afford State 'workers'.
GREAT MESSAGE AT THE END OF THE VIDEO:YOU TAKE CARE OF ME!
Very educational commentary
Nobody mentioned the Hanford nuclear reservation leaking into the Columbia river.
Or the pike-minnow fishery that WDFW created. Pike-minnows eat salmon fry. That's seems fine. Or selling WA's smelt, herring and forage fish to Australia for net pen tuna. Or allowing an annual quota of deadly industrial waste products to be dumped into the river.
Something telling me she didn't skimp on that first meal of salmon
People like you always get nasty and personal when you don't have anything constructive to contribute .
Grow up .
@@KarunanithiNRamachandran ahh yes the truth hurts doesn't it
@@Xfishf00Dno.. you’re just a jackass
@@Xfishf00D What truth are you talking about ???
The truth you assumed .
Some people are built that way or have some hormonal imbalance that makes them put on weight .
Don't make false assumptions or slander people without truly knowing .
It will come back to bite you but I will pray that God shows you mercy .
@KarunanithiNRamachandran first off you and your modern society has caused the decline in salmon population. eating them is not even necessary for survival.
Second, the same modern society caused that "hormonal imbalance" and double fisting twinkies doesn't help.
Some people are built differently but at the same time you should take notice at some point and get off the couch and stop eating ice cream and drinking soda. Bottom line is we are all responsible for the world around us and I won't blame others for what I have contributed to.
You might want to stay off public forums if you can't take ridicule
1:44 of course…. CLIMATE CHANGE!!! I’m so freaking sick of hearing those two words!
I just watched a pbs show on the salmon disappearing. When you build a dam this is what's gonna happen, that and over fishing I'm sure. A couple of bird colonies are doing real well and the seals have figured out how to get an easy meal! Probably a billion dollars spent on saving of the salmon species! Just so man can make a living and assure the species survive.
I also want to say, I hate eating salmon, so don't blame me when they're gone. I love the species themselves but not the flavor.
Blame the fools that can't stop building warehouses and housing developments!
Lol there aren't any pure bred "wild" salmon any more. That's all bullshit
Lol the tribes and commercial vessels take more salmon than anyone. Don't be fooled
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Our fish are netted by commercial operation in northern Washington, Canada, and Alaska. Maybe you should do some research before calling yourself an expert and making a youtube video.
Looks like her favorite food is cheeze bacon burgers.