@rarecars3336 the CanAm or maybe an Olds 442. I've always liked the looks of them body styles. 77 Trans Am with a 4 spd would be nice too. My buddy had a 77 Mustang II with T-tops, a 302 from a 71 Mustang, and a 4 spd that we had alot of fun with.
This is one of my favorite cars. One of my brother's friends became the 2nd owner of a Can Am in 78 or 79. He still has it, all original & garage kept. He brought it out for a memorial service for my father & took me for a rip like he did when I was a kid. It was a nice distraction on a difficult day. Thanks for a great video.
I enjoyed the video. Thank you for sharing. My first car back in '86 was a '74 Pontiac Lemans Sport Coupe. 350, 2bbl. Before I got rid of it years later I upgraded to a 400 4bbl and a shift kit in the turbo 350 transmission, complete exhaust replacement to headers/glasspacks, and a dozen other budget mods. That car SOUNDED so good it was ridiculous and for as heavy as it was it represented itself well. Horsepower? What's that? But the car would get off of the line pretty quickly. I had lots of fun in/with that car and your video helps to bring back those memories. 👍
I know a fella who has 2 white Can Am's. He's been rebuilding the one for about 5 yrs. Also remember the Laguna in that time frame. Swivel driver seat.
I lived through the fake energy crisis of the seventies. I lost almost everything i had including my land. This was awful for the great cars we loved back then and our country hasn't been right since. I had a 71 Grand Prix 455 that was a beast.
@ATomRileyA : I tend to agree there is a conspiracy about crude oil and whether or not our supply will ever run out, but disagree about it being abiotic which would indicate an origin via a mineral based process, but, the proof has been around a long time that crude oil is organic and is formed naturally via the decomposition of all living things over a very long time. You can actually do a little backyard science experiment using grass clippings, leftover spoiled food, basically anything organic. Put your concoction in a thick black plastic trash bag and moisten with water but not so much it pools in the bag. Remove as much air as possible from the bag and tightly tie the bag shut with a double knot. Put the bag in a metal trash can and fill the trashcan with sandbags with damp sand for weight. Simply place the trash can where it will get direct sunlight (mainly for heat). Leave it alone for an extended period of time. While you obviously will not make actual crude oil this way which would require millions of years, you will in fact produce a very foul smelling black liquid. I never actually tested it to see if it was flammable, but I wouldn't be surprised if it burned! The trash can "slurry" was formed basically using the same natural process the planet uses to produces oil....All you need is organic material, heat, intense pressure and a long time!
I was born in 1968 so I grew up in the 70's and 80's and these videos really take me back.In 77 I tried to talk my dad into a Can-Am. He just got rid of 74 formula 400 firebird. Instead he went with the Monte Carlo which was nice.
In 77 I tried to talk my dad into a Can-Am. He just got rid of 74 formula 400 firebird. Instead he went with the Monte Carlo which was nice. I would rather he would have bought the Can-Am 🤗 I did take my driver's test in the formula 400 so there is that 😳
@@thebigpicture2032They may have still been in dealerships but they were gas guzzlers shortly after the OPEC oil embargo with fuel lines , empty fuel pumps and high fuel prices. Insurance was extremely high for cars like that and unlike the Golden era of muscle cars it was painfully slow.
You're doing a great job with this channel. I was born in 1968 so I grew up in the 70's and 80's and these videos really take me back. Keep up the excellent work!
No actual human is involved in any aspect of this channel, much less this terrible video. Not writing, not narration, not video selection, not video editing, nothing!
Rare Cars is one of my favorite YT channels. I watch almost everything you produce. Having said that, you danced all around the direct predecessor of this car and didn't mention it. The Can Am was a Grand Am with a Trans Am hood and a rear spoiler. Everything else about it was a direct copy of the first gen Grand Am, produced from 1973 until 1975. I'll admit I have a soft spot in my heart for the Grand Am, since a 1973 Grand Am was my first car. White car with maroon interior and vinyl top, 400, auto trans, and the stripes were red, white and blue. The 400 produced a few more ponies in '73 (230 hp) than it did by '77. Then in '78 they came out with the downsized version of the Grand Am built on the Grand Prix platform.
My 73 was a 400, turbo400 transmission, Quadrajet 4bbl, dual exhaust. Being the 70's I jacked it up and big tires & Cragars soon put it back stock Is one of those cars I want back! Thanks!
Up until they went out of business I drove Pontiacs. They had a lot of sleepers. My first was a 68 Executive (a Bonneville less trim) 400 ho in that one. But the fun one I miss was a 73 Bonniville. was my Father's he was a police officer and he somehow went to the police garage and got the codes for a pursuit car. He knew the local dealer and it had a 455 sd! It was a beast. Used to drive the Smog people nuts as was not supposed to exist. Only way to tell was no idiot lights and true dual exhaust. No smog pump and huge carb!
My uncle had one… he had it from 79-82 it had the black interior. As a little kid I remember the car. Dad had a 1969 SS and Uncle Andrew had the Pontiac. Great times! I wish I had bought cars today😢
I’ve seen a few of these over the years, mainly into the 80’s. The stripe and the interesting typeface of the Can Am logo are what caught my eyes back then.
We have one of the 42 olds 403 cars. All original survivor. Only one with a white leather bench seat. PHS registered and documented. It’ll never leave our collection.
I met a combat veteran widow at Eglin AFB, FL at the east gate base gas station and shoppette convenience store filling up her late husband’s Can Am. We chatted for about 10 minutes as she told me she was keeping the car in good running shape to pass on her husband’s prized car to their then 10 & 7 year old sons. I loved them because they reminded me of my best friend’s ’76 Pontiac Grand LeMans w/ 350 vs 400 minus the shaker hood, regular rear opera windows vs louvre ones and rear spoiler. We had lots of good times in that car my sophomore and junior years as he was a year older and left for Army after graduation and wasn’t around my senior year.
My best friend in HS drove one that was his moms. It was fantastic for just cruising around. Oddly no one thought it was particularly cool at the time( the 70's) but I loved the flashy but less in-your-face than a T/A.
I grew up in the 1970's in L.A.'s San Fernando Valley, and in 1977 I was a Junior in H.S. , and remember the new Can Am being promenently displayed in the local Pontiac Dealer's showroom... It looked fast, but when I read the performance specs in Car and Driver magazine , I knew it was more bark than bite....that being said...it was still a bad ass looking sport sedan. I miss those days.... Muscle cars were everywhere you looked back then....living in the Valley was like being in Car Enthusiast's Heaven.
My uncle had one. 1980-84 (not sure). 6.5yrs old. I thought it was straight off Daytona 500, Indy, Le Man . . . THE SPACE SHUTTLE! New to USA in 1980, so almost EVERYTHING amazed, but CAN AM stands out.
My friend had a ‘76 Grand Prix with the 400ci. It was a nice car, decent power, good ergonomics. Ostentatious styling, the ‘70 looked meaner and more muscular, but it was a nice cruiser
My neighbor across the street had one of these and also a mustang KR 500 and I survived by my bicycle when I was 10 years old in 1977 and look at these cars, not knowing what they truly would become
Great content my brother!!! That is one rare car right there! I might have seen one or two in my life, and I am darn near 60.....grew up in those days when they were new!!
I grabbed a '75 Lemans Sport Coupe GT in 1990 from Ft Benning, GA in Providence, RI. It needed a little life in the engine and some cosmetics, but otherwise it was a score. Still sits in my fleet of old cars rusting in the woods of Northern Maine. Too many fond memories to let it go.
My mom went to the dealer to buy a trans am. Drove out with a can am . California model with the 6.6 litre 403 . It was our daily driver and family car . Around 2002 we finished restoring it . Sadly it was lost in a garage and house fire while we were waiting for the decals to come in the mail . Heart breaking for my mom and our family .
Never understood that reason for ending production. If the dies for the spoiler broke, why not just keep offering it without the spoiler? Or have an aftermarket vendor supply one?
The 1972 Le Mans had a planned variant that was supposed to have come with dang near a '72 Z-28 spoiler - and IT was canceled because the first part pulled destroyed the mold. I think that is the basis for the story related here but applied to the wrong car.
@@patrickshaw8595 I've read this story elsewhere about the Can Am so maybe it indeed happened that way. I know the '72 GTO could be had with a ducktail spoiler. Not too common, I have seen a few in magazines.
Many years ago I owned a 1977 LeMans Sport Coupe. With it's "Radial Tuned Suspension" the car handled and rode better than any other large "mid size" that I have driven. The only downfall was the anemic 301 2 barrel engine which would slow down on moderate inclines. I wish I had found one of these Can Am models. With a potent 400 or 455 that car would have been a keeper.
In the late '70s, I had a '75 LeMans Sport Coupe with the 455 in it. The rear axle was geared for gas mileage, but darn that car would go. Wish I still had it, but it got totaled one morning by a pickup on the wrong side of a sharp curve on a country road.
This is a very beautiful car. I have a customer who has one. He had me build a 400 Pontiac that lays down a little over 425 horsepower. It is a beautiful beast.
Absolutely great detailed history of this amazing American Classic. Thank you for your effort in the production of this video. I have shared it with many across the USA and overseas from Hawaii, Japan, to Europe. Pontiac……..The Wide Track winer. 👍🏻😉🙏🏻✝️🇺🇸
Deleting ALL the emission BS , along with true dual exhaust and a curve kit in the distributor would be the cheapest and easiest way for a new owner to make this car more fun right from the start..it's a shame they didn't offer the B-W Super T10 as an option on this model , but a performance stall converter would be a must for that stinky stock THM Thanks for sharing ! 😇❤
Hey there! If you would like to see the entire video that we at If This Car Could Talk did with Jim Wangers that is partially shown in this video - here it is! th-cam.com/video/0py-8iutWHk/w-d-xo.html
I actually saw one of these when I was a kid. It was at a local restaurant and has always been a favorite of mine . I had never seen anything like it and being a huge Trans Am fan I really liked the style of it
I owned a 1977 Cutlass 442 with a factory build 2.41 arse end, 160+ MPH car. (optional luggage rack on trunk lid was sexy too). At 60 MPH, like 4.11's at the starting line. Had a few RCMP speed traps not even bother with me.
There were actually 5 interior colors. Along with the 3 you mentioned there were some Buckskin (tan) and very low number of blue interiors. Also I know there are two production numbers for Can Ams. 1133 and 1377, the 1377 I believe was verified by Wangers years ago. I've had 2 of these and still own my second of the two. Great video and review.
The 1133 number actually did come from Wangers. Pontiac officially said 1377. A lot of people think the Pontiac number is higher because it included cars that were headed to Motortown for the conversion that were never converted because of the failure of the spoiler press.
I walked by a Can-Am every day for a couple of years in the late70's. What sticks out in my mind, was that I swear it had 7.9L metal badging, a white leather interior, and that it had Recaro seats with graduated orange inserts. For some reason, I thought that it was perhaps a Canadian car as this was in Binghamton, NY and the car didn't look like it came from Detroit. I'm kicking myself for all the opportunities I've had to acquire one of these when they were ignored. Alas, that is no longer.
So napkin math puts a 455 about 7.5L, and if you .060 bore it out would put it a little more. I could have the number wrong, but for sure there was a 7 first, and the more I think about it I think it was 7.8. A caddy 472 swap maybe? Would that even work? Regardless, whoever had the car had put a good deal of thought, time, and money into customizing a factory custom. It was really well done. It's hard to convey the amount of understated badass-ness that car had.
I'm a Pontiac guy from way back. But I also like Mopar as well. I'd like to think that the early '80s Dodge Mirada was sort of the last muscle car. You could tweak the 360 to put out some good power.
My Mom had a be 76 Pontiac LeMans Sports Coupe, great car, drove it many times, lots of torque. I used to see the Can Am, quite a bit when it came out and sometimes wondered if my Mom would have chosen that if she had waited one more year to get her new car.
First off YEAH! Great channel and content. Thanks from your new sub in SoCali My neighbor where I grew up in North OC in the 70's had a white Pontiac that looked pretty sporty, but I can't remember the orange decal kit. Man, it's high time I get to storage and dig out all of those pics I took in High School. Man, I mean I took pictures of everything including some famous hot rod builders that came to the Auto Shop class and shared all kinds of knowledge, we were not riveted to what he was sharing, WE WERE WELDED! HAHAHA anyway, look forward to coming on share time, God Gless
I've never seen one in the wild but always enjoyed reading about them in HPP. Pontiac truly was the only shimmer of light in the late 70s when it came to performance.
Having had Smokey & the Bandit for a pretty much daily babysitter, I do have a soft spot for this generation of Pontiac, even if my general taste in cars is more biased to the 50s and 60s. I want one!! The only thing I don't like about it (and LeMans in general with this body style) is the louvered rear quarter windows, I don't think the design flows well with the body. I'd prefer the bigger triangular window that Oldsmobile kept throughout this body style, but what to do? When it comes to malaise era cars, it's still super cool! Thanks for uploading! Greetings from Sweden
My dad owned a can am himself! I have been looking for his car ever since he had to sell it! I have so many memories of riding around in this. My dad use to polish the leather once a week, any quick stop and you slid off the seats! 😂
I use to own one. The compression ratio was 9 to1.it had 3.23 rear gears.They all higher rpm stall converters.NHRA said they were under rated horsepower.They said it should have been more like 265 HP.
Couldn’t have been stock. In 1971 GM placed an 8.5:1 compression cap on all engines for unleaded gas. In 75-76 all Pontiac V8s had 7.6:1 compression. The W72 came out in 77 and it had 8.2:1 because they used 350 heads because they had smaller combustion chambers. The 6X8 400 heads had around 101CC while the 350 6X4 heads were around 92CC. Not sure what compression the Olds 403 was but I had a 76 Toronado with an Olds 455 that still had 8.5:1.
Had one since new. Mine had black interior and only a sport steering wheel. Drove it for work as a rep in west Texas and Colorado and parked it in 1986 when it had 110,000 miles. Kept it garaged till 2008 and sold it for big money !
Another great video. Where does this car fit in with the 73 soft nose Grand Am? Imagine what it could've been without the I beam bumpers and the neutered 455. It breaks my gear driven heart.
Well, the Grand Am and the Can Am were both built on the Lemans Sport Coupe body, the same basic body shell used from 73-77. Of course, the nose and tail were styled differently, but the body in between was basically the same. Even both the Grand Am and the Can Am used the Grand Prix dash. The Can Am came with the 200 hp 400 (No 455 was available for 1977). The 73 Grand Am was available with either a 230 hp 400, or a 250 hp 455. I don't necessarily think the Grand Am and Can Am "fit in" with each other, since they were 2 different ideas. The Grand Am was to be a combo of sport and luxury and compete with euro cars. The Can Am was developed to add a sporty GTO type image to the Lemans to try to create interest in the Lemans due to lagging sales.
@@grand73am Thank you for your reply. I loved the 73 model. I've searched in vain for one I could restore to it's true purpose. The irony is that today, this old
Luckily a friend of mine had one in 1981 & I loved that car, we used to cruise that thing on the strip in Atlanta every weekend! Unfortunately Allen was killed in a car accident in his 1978 Z28 ✌💖☮
I recently sold my 77 LeMans sports Coupe that was in my family since new. Not a great car in general. I always liked the Can Am better. I had heard the story about the spoiler debacle being the cause of its demise. Thanks for the flashback.
There was a small number of the white 2 door Lemans that the car was based on sold after it was removed from the lineup. They were left over "basis" cars and a few have been spotted here and there. They are unique the big engine was not a regular option i think. Check into it.
In 2021 I saw a (probably) refurbished Can Am with a 455 (8.X?) l in Milford Ct. It was BEAUTIFUL! Hate to think what the price tag was on that bad boy! Thx for the vid.
I've only seen a couple of these at car shows! Still Beautiful today and more interesting than todays design aspects! The hood scoop is what I remember the most from Smokey and the Bandit Movies Seems like All the police cars had them! Ever do a video on the Chevy Laguna S3?
I remember seeing one at one of those high-profile auctions: all original, unrestored, low mileage survivor - very nice. While I was not terribly familiar with its this model being a one-year run, I thought the selling price of 35k was insultingly low.
I worked at a Pontiac dealership in 77 but we never saw a can am. But we had worked on some earlier GTOs . A man came in and bought 2 silver anniversary trans ams an automatic and a 4 speed the auto one had a 403 the 4 speed had a 301 . He said he was buying them for his son so after graduation they could ride around in a pair of classics. I don't know what became of them. I do know they were stored in Richmond VA somewhere the same year placed on blocks and deflating the tires and also climate control.
The last true muscle car was built in 1970. In 1971 emission laws went into effect and emission controls on engines took away the muscle. For example the Chevy 454 went from 400+ horsepower to about 200.
@@Tom-cp6yj Opps,corrected. Of course I meant the 454. The Chevy 397 also lost a lot of power, and I’ll never forget The Beach Boys song about the 408.😂
I love Pontiac and The Can Am , but truly it was not a Muscle Car . What is a Muscle Car ? it is a production car that could seat more than 2 people and could do the Quarter Mile in 15.50 or less . The Can Am was still a cool car though . I remember when these cars came out , I wanted one . GM did put out another Muscle Car in 1987 , The Buick Grand National & GNX , but I digress , thanks for the video .
I remember checking one out in a dealership in 1977 when I was 16. My brother had a '75 trans am so I was drawn to the shaker hood and side vents. I liked the car. Too bad sales were so low.
I had a 77' Olsmobile Omega with a 327 V8, it had a racing cam. and a 4 barrel carb. with dual exhaust and headers! 3 speed hydromatic tranny! I could do the 1/4 in under 12 seconds.. Basically it was a NOVA.. I preferred Oldsmobile performance cars over Pontiac.. Try the Oldsmobile 425 Super Rocket engine with solid lifters.. My buddy had a 69' Cutlass with a 425 Super Rocket..
What many people don't understand is that, maybe styling aside depending on your taste, these cars are better in EVERY way vs the earlier muscle cars besides horsepower. And that's a very easy fix with a little tuning. How many people leave current performance cars stock? These were no different.
@@andrewdonohue1853 Yes they did. And with all this emissions crap, and better mileage on vehicles, they still complain about air pollution. Nothing more than an issue to line their pockets with $.
I was 17 in 1977, and I begged my father to buy the Can Am. I knew that he would never buy a TA or Z28, but the Can Am seemed to be the right middle of the pack ride back then. I would have ordered it with the stripe delete, as I never really cared for the 70s styling, as it just seemed to scream "I'm not really all that fast but look at me anyways!" I saw one of them in the showroom, and it took forever to eventually sell, so dad could have actually picked it up rather cheaply, but he went with a hatchback Nova instead, which I was totally embarrassed to ride in or drive. I had a V-8 Vega at the time that was my ride that I built in auto shop at my school, but I wanted the Can Am for dates! The V-8 Vega just scared the girls too much. I always liked the bigger cars with classier interiors, and the Can Am was definitely much classier than a plain-Jane Nova.
A 4 speed 6.6 Pontiac powered Trans Am was definitely faster than a Can Am. Can Am's were a doll up campaign to sell more cars, which several of the manufacturers did to several different models. The 73-74 Super Duty 455 Trans Am was really the last muscle car of the 70's as it would very easily out perform any American made car from 1973 until the Buick Grand National appeared and in it's factory original 200hp the Buick couldn't stand up to a Super Duty 455 either.
Talking to wangers and Arnie Beswick, the spoiler mold story was actually bs.. the epa was on Pontiac about emissions and fuel mileage, so they canceled them after about 1500 being produced. The remaining cars got turned back into lemans sports again and sold at dealers, but they still had the trans Am motor in em
I think of the Can Am as more of an attempt to revive the Grand Am than an attempt to re-start the muscle car market. Certainly, the Grand Am, especially the 1973 model year, was far more distinctive, with a front tend that differed from the LeMans, the window louvers in the rear quarters, the red/white/blue stripes, and the rubber front nose cone. That they were exclusively 400 CI and bigger V8s didn't hurt, and I have heard that there were even a few Grand Ams made in 1973 that had the Trans Am's Super Duty 455. The interior dash used real wood, not plastic wood, and it had a really nice interior overall. I seem to recall that the Grand Am was thought to be a great handling car, even with the 455 on board.
The year is 1977, and you have to buy a new Muscle Car. Would you choose the Can Am, or something else? 🤔
Something else… For sure.
a 70 Boss, a 67 Z28 or a Challenger - unless I already wanted more doors to bring friends along
Anything else.
@@boredom.victim Has to be new for 77 though
@rarecars3336 the CanAm or maybe an Olds 442. I've always liked the looks of them body styles. 77 Trans Am with a 4 spd would be nice too. My buddy had a 77 Mustang II with T-tops, a 302 from a 71 Mustang, and a 4 spd that we had alot of fun with.
This is one of my favorite cars. One of my brother's friends became the 2nd owner of a Can Am in 78 or 79. He still has it, all original & garage kept. He brought it out for a memorial service for my father & took me for a rip like he did when I was a kid. It was a nice distraction on a difficult day. Thanks for a great video.
I enjoyed the video. Thank you for sharing. My first car back in '86 was a '74 Pontiac Lemans Sport Coupe. 350, 2bbl. Before I got rid of it years later I upgraded to a 400 4bbl and a shift kit in the turbo 350 transmission, complete exhaust replacement to headers/glasspacks, and a dozen other budget mods. That car SOUNDED so good it was ridiculous and for as heavy as it was it represented itself well. Horsepower? What's that? But the car would get off of the line pretty quickly. I had lots of fun in/with that car and your video helps to bring back those memories. 👍
I know a fella who has 2 white Can Am's. He's been rebuilding the one for about 5 yrs.
Also remember the Laguna in that time frame. Swivel driver seat.
I lived through the fake energy crisis of the seventies. I lost almost everything i had including my land. This was awful for the great cars we loved back then and our country hasn't been right since. I had a 71 Grand Prix 455 that was a beast.
Its even worse when you realize that oil is abiotic and never runs out and they have been lying about it for a long time.
How did "lose almost everything" to
a " _fake energy crisis_ " ??
The cognitive dissonance is real....
@ATomRileyA : I tend to agree there is a conspiracy about crude oil and whether or not our supply will ever run out, but disagree about it being abiotic which would indicate an origin via a mineral based process, but, the proof has been around a long time that crude oil is organic and is formed naturally via the decomposition of all living things over a very long time. You can actually do a little backyard science experiment using grass clippings, leftover spoiled food, basically anything organic. Put your concoction in a thick black plastic trash bag and moisten with water but not so much it pools in the bag. Remove as much air as possible from the bag and tightly tie the bag shut with a double knot. Put the bag in a metal trash can and fill the trashcan with sandbags with damp sand for weight. Simply place the trash can where it will get direct sunlight (mainly for heat). Leave it alone for an extended period of time.
While you obviously will not make actual crude oil this way which would require millions of years, you will in fact produce a very foul smelling black liquid. I never actually tested it to see if it was flammable, but I wouldn't be surprised if it burned! The trash can "slurry" was formed basically using the same natural process the planet uses to produces oil....All you need is organic material, heat, intense pressure and a long time!
@@ATomRileyAI've heard that any links
Lol had shit for power. No beast.
The Price Is Right had these as 'A Brand New Car'
That would have been a pretty cool prize!
I remember here in Detroit in 84 on Gratiot while cruising. There was a gang of can ams about 5 of them cruising. Quite a sight even then.😊
Royal Oak Kimball H.S. 1988/89 one of the cool kids had one of these. I'm sure he was probably one of those cruising.
I was born in 1968 so I grew up in the 70's and 80's and these videos really take me back.In 77 I tried to talk my dad into a Can-Am. He just got rid of 74 formula 400 firebird. Instead he went with the Monte Carlo which was nice.
In 77 I tried to talk my dad into a Can-Am. He just got rid of 74 formula 400 firebird. Instead he went with the Monte Carlo which was nice. I would rather he would have bought the Can-Am 🤗 I did take my driver's test in the formula 400 so there is that 😳
You should have talked your dad into gifting your the Formula 400. That car is worth a small fortune today.
@@encinobalboayeah they were nothing but out of fashion car abck in those time
@@jasonlemuel5078 out of fashion? They were still in dealers showrooms.
@@encinobalboa the Can Am is likely worth more than a 77 Formula 400.
@@thebigpicture2032They may have still been in dealerships but they were gas guzzlers shortly after the OPEC oil embargo with fuel lines , empty fuel pumps and high fuel prices.
Insurance was extremely high for cars like that and unlike the Golden era of muscle cars it was painfully slow.
You're doing a great job with this channel. I was born in 1968 so I grew up in the 70's and 80's and these videos really take me back. Keep up the excellent work!
Thank you👍🏿
Are you sure you grew up in 70s and 80s? Pretty sure we all would’ve thought differently.
No actual human is involved in any aspect of this channel, much less this terrible video. Not writing, not narration, not video selection, not video editing, nothing!
Rare Cars is one of my favorite YT channels. I watch almost everything you produce. Having said that, you danced all around the direct predecessor of this car and didn't mention it. The Can Am was a Grand Am with a Trans Am hood and a rear spoiler. Everything else about it was a direct copy of the first gen Grand Am, produced from 1973 until 1975. I'll admit I have a soft spot in my heart for the Grand Am, since a 1973 Grand Am was my first car. White car with maroon interior and vinyl top, 400, auto trans, and the stripes were red, white and blue. The 400 produced a few more ponies in '73 (230 hp) than it did by '77. Then in '78 they came out with the downsized version of the Grand Am built on the Grand Prix platform.
My 73 was a 400, turbo400 transmission, Quadrajet 4bbl, dual exhaust. Being the 70's I jacked it up and big tires & Cragars soon put it back stock Is one of those cars I want back! Thanks!
Up until they went out of business I drove Pontiacs. They had a lot of sleepers. My first was a 68 Executive (a Bonneville less trim) 400 ho in that one. But the fun one I miss was a 73 Bonniville. was my Father's he was a police officer and he somehow went to the police garage and got the codes for a pursuit car. He knew the local dealer and it had a 455 sd! It was a beast. Used to drive the Smog people nuts as was not supposed to exist. Only way to tell was no idiot lights and true dual exhaust. No smog pump and huge carb!
My uncle had one… he had it from 79-82 it had the black interior. As a little kid I remember the car. Dad had a 1969 SS and Uncle Andrew had the Pontiac. Great times! I wish I had bought cars today😢
I’ve seen a few of these over the years, mainly into the 80’s. The stripe and the interesting typeface of the Can Am logo are what caught my eyes back then.
The stripe and logo package was actually pretty sweet - I really like it
We have one of the 42 olds 403 cars. All original survivor.
Only one with a white leather bench seat.
PHS registered and documented.
It’ll never leave our collection.
I met a combat veteran widow at Eglin AFB, FL at the east gate base gas station and shoppette convenience store filling up her late husband’s Can Am. We chatted for about 10 minutes as she told me she was keeping the car in good running shape to pass on her husband’s prized car to their then 10 & 7 year old sons. I loved them because they reminded me of my best friend’s ’76 Pontiac Grand LeMans w/ 350 vs 400 minus the shaker hood, regular rear opera windows vs louvre ones and rear spoiler. We had lots of good times in that car my sophomore and junior years as he was a year older and left for Army after graduation and wasn’t around my senior year.
Was always one of my favorites.I could see the potential
My best friend in HS drove one that was his moms. It was fantastic for just cruising around. Oddly no one thought it was particularly cool at the time( the 70's) but I loved the flashy but less in-your-face than a T/A.
I grew up in the 1970's in L.A.'s San Fernando Valley, and in 1977 I was a Junior in H.S. , and remember the new Can Am being promenently displayed in the local Pontiac Dealer's showroom... It looked fast, but when I read the performance specs in Car and Driver magazine , I knew it was more bark than bite....that being said...it was still a bad ass looking sport sedan. I miss those days.... Muscle cars were everywhere you looked back then....living in the Valley was like being in Car Enthusiast's Heaven.
My uncle had one. 1980-84 (not sure). 6.5yrs old. I thought it was straight off Daytona 500, Indy, Le Man . . . THE SPACE SHUTTLE! New to USA in 1980, so almost EVERYTHING amazed, but CAN AM stands out.
My friend had a ‘76 Grand Prix with the 400ci.
It was a nice car, decent power, good ergonomics. Ostentatious styling, the ‘70 looked meaner and more muscular, but it was a nice cruiser
My neighbor across the street had one of these and also a mustang KR 500 and I survived by my bicycle when I was 10 years old in 1977 and look at these cars, not knowing what they truly would become
Great content my brother!!! That is one rare car right there! I might have seen one or two in my life, and I am darn near 60.....grew up in those days when they were new!!
I grabbed a '75 Lemans Sport Coupe GT in 1990 from Ft Benning, GA in Providence, RI. It needed a little life in the engine and some cosmetics, but otherwise it was a score. Still sits in my fleet of old cars rusting in the woods of Northern Maine. Too many fond memories to let it go.
Can't blame you there, the memories are priceless!
My mom went to the dealer to buy a trans am. Drove out with a can am . California model with the 6.6 litre 403 . It was our daily driver and family car . Around 2002 we finished restoring it .
Sadly it was lost in a garage and house fire while we were waiting for the decals to come in the mail . Heart breaking for my mom and our family .
Never understood that reason for ending production. If the dies for the spoiler broke, why not just keep offering it without the spoiler? Or have an aftermarket vendor supply one?
The 1972 Le Mans had a planned variant that was supposed to have come with dang near a '72 Z-28 spoiler - and IT was canceled because the first part pulled destroyed the mold. I think that is the basis for the story related here but applied to the wrong car.
@@patrickshaw8595 I've read this story elsewhere about the Can Am so maybe it indeed happened that way. I know the '72 GTO could be had with a ducktail spoiler. Not too common, I have seen a few in magazines.
Many years ago I owned a 1977 LeMans Sport Coupe. With it's "Radial Tuned Suspension" the car handled and rode better than any other large "mid size" that I have driven. The only downfall was the anemic 301 2 barrel engine which would slow down on moderate inclines. I wish I had found one of these Can Am models. With a potent 400 or 455 that car would have been a keeper.
OOF yeah a 301 had to be rough - that 455 would have really given you a whole lot more torque!
In the late '70s, I had a '75 LeMans Sport Coupe with the 455 in it. The rear axle was geared for gas mileage, but darn that car would go. Wish I still had it, but it got totaled one morning by a pickup on the wrong side of a sharp curve on a country road.
This is a very beautiful car. I have a customer who has one. He had me build a 400 Pontiac that lays down a little over 425 horsepower. It is a beautiful beast.
What mods did you do to the engine? That’s pretty healthy
Sorry, but IMO everything after 73-74 got that screwy boxy look. There were exceptions.
@@Scott_BuchananIt was pretty easy back then 😉 mind you they wouldn't pass emissions back then 🤫 you were basically retuning a down tuned engine 👍!!
Absolutely great detailed history of this amazing American Classic. Thank you for your effort in the production of this video. I have shared it with many across the USA and overseas from Hawaii, Japan, to Europe. Pontiac……..The Wide Track winer. 👍🏻😉🙏🏻✝️🇺🇸
I would love to see a model kit of one of these someday...
Agreed
Deleting ALL the emission BS , along with true dual exhaust and a curve kit in the distributor would be the cheapest and easiest way for a new owner to make this car more fun right from the start..it's a shame they didn't offer the B-W Super T10 as an option on this model , but a performance stall converter would be a must for that stinky stock THM
Thanks for sharing !
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My husband has a 77 original Pontiac Canam with a bench set. Bought it his junior year of highschool. Has 12,370 miles on it.
Hey there! If you would like to see the entire video that we at If This Car Could Talk did with Jim Wangers that is partially shown in this video - here it is! th-cam.com/video/0py-8iutWHk/w-d-xo.html
I know a guy that has one in Phx AZ....I didnt know what it was until I saw it and he told me about his Mom buying it new. They are pretty nice.
I actually saw one of these when I was a kid. It was at a local restaurant and has always been a favorite of mine . I had never seen anything like it and being a huge Trans Am fan I really liked the style of it
I owned a 1977 Cutlass 442 with a factory build 2.41 arse end, 160+ MPH car.
(optional luggage rack on trunk lid was sexy too).
At 60 MPH, like 4.11's at the starting line.
Had a few RCMP speed traps not even bother with me.
There were actually 5 interior colors. Along with the 3 you mentioned there were some Buckskin (tan) and very low number of blue interiors. Also I know there are two production numbers for Can Ams. 1133 and 1377, the 1377 I believe was verified by Wangers years ago. I've had 2 of these and still own my second of the two. Great video and review.
The 1133 number actually did come from Wangers. Pontiac officially said 1377. A lot of people think the Pontiac number is higher because it included cars that were headed to Motortown for the conversion that were never converted because of the failure of the spoiler press.
I walked by a Can-Am every day for a couple of years in the late70's. What sticks out in my mind, was that I swear it had 7.9L metal badging, a white leather interior, and that it had Recaro seats with graduated orange inserts. For some reason, I thought that it was perhaps a Canadian car as this was in Binghamton, NY and the car didn't look like it came from Detroit. I'm kicking myself for all the opportunities I've had to acquire one of these when they were ignored. Alas, that is no longer.
Maybe they put a 455 in it? 7.9L is close to that displacement?
So napkin math puts a 455 about 7.5L, and if you .060 bore it out would put it a little more. I could have the number wrong, but for sure there was a 7 first, and the more I think about it I think it was 7.8. A caddy 472 swap maybe? Would that even work? Regardless, whoever had the car had put a good deal of thought, time, and money into customizing a factory custom. It was really well done. It's hard to convey the amount of understated badass-ness that car had.
7.5L
I'm a Pontiac guy from way back. But I also like Mopar as well. I'd like to think that the early '80s Dodge Mirada was sort of the last muscle car. You could tweak the 360 to put out some good power.
The 360 was available, but only the first year, 1980. 😎
I saw one of these in the 1980's and loved it. I had no idea it was so rare. Thanks!
My Mom had a be 76 Pontiac LeMans Sports Coupe, great car, drove it many times, lots of torque. I used to see the Can Am, quite a bit when it came out and sometimes wondered if my Mom would have chosen that if she had waited one more year to get her new car.
Seen a few at shows over the years. Always fun to stop and look it over.
First off YEAH! Great channel and content.
Thanks from your new sub in SoCali
My neighbor where I grew up in North OC in the 70's had a white Pontiac that looked pretty sporty, but I can't remember the orange decal kit.
Man, it's high time I get to storage and dig out all of those pics I took in High School. Man, I mean I took pictures of everything including some famous hot rod builders that came to the Auto Shop class and shared all kinds of knowledge, we were not riveted to what he was sharing, WE WERE WELDED! HAHAHA
anyway, look forward to coming on share time, God Gless
I've never seen one in the wild but always enjoyed reading about them in HPP. Pontiac truly was the only shimmer of light in the late 70s when it came to performance.
The 73-77 GM 'A' Body was much improved over the 64-67 & 68-72. Upgrades included; new geometry front & rear suspension, stiffer & stronger chassis & body, radial 15" tires, 8.5"differential - standard, power front disc brakes - standard, cross flow radiator with overflow tank, no 2 speed automatic transmission, hardened engine valve seats, hydraulic camshaft & lifters, lowered compression to reduce detonation, positive crankcase ventilation, 5 MPH bumpers, 3 point retractable seat belts.
Having had Smokey & the Bandit for a pretty much daily babysitter, I do have a soft spot for this generation of Pontiac, even if my general taste in cars is more biased to the 50s and 60s. I want one!! The only thing I don't like about it (and LeMans in general with this body style) is the louvered rear quarter windows, I don't think the design flows well with the body. I'd prefer the bigger triangular window that Oldsmobile kept throughout this body style, but what to do? When it comes to malaise era cars, it's still super cool!
Thanks for uploading! Greetings from Sweden
In the mid-80s, I worked with a guy that had one of these. I didn't realize then how rare it was.
My dad owned a can am himself! I have been looking for his car ever since he had to sell it! I have so many memories of riding around in this. My dad use to polish the leather once a week, any quick stop and you slid off the seats! 😂
Those can ams are super rare ,ld love to have one
Love the channel man. It's fun learning about cars I knew nothing about or had forgotten.
Another potential high profile car killed by the bean counters.
I use to own one. The compression ratio was 9 to1.it had 3.23 rear gears.They all higher rpm stall converters.NHRA said they were under rated horsepower.They said it should have been more like 265 HP.
Couldn’t have been stock. In 1971 GM placed an 8.5:1 compression cap on all engines for unleaded gas. In 75-76 all Pontiac V8s had 7.6:1 compression. The W72 came out in 77 and it had 8.2:1 because they used 350 heads because they had smaller combustion chambers. The 6X8 400 heads had around 101CC while the 350 6X4 heads were around 92CC. Not sure what compression the Olds 403 was but I had a 76 Toronado with an Olds 455 that still had 8.5:1.
A friend of mine had one in high school. Had no idea how rare it was.
No way! Yup one of like a 1,000!
Have owned mine since 94
Still mostly original
Had one since new. Mine had black interior and only a sport steering wheel. Drove it for work as a rep in west Texas and Colorado and parked it in 1986 when it had 110,000 miles. Kept it garaged till 2008 and sold it for big money !
Love the channel, keep bringing the B cars that alot of todays generation nver heard og. Can Am was always one of my favorites as a big pontiac fan
Another great video. Where does this car fit in with the 73 soft nose Grand Am? Imagine what it could've been without the I beam bumpers and the neutered 455. It breaks my gear driven heart.
Well, the Grand Am and the Can Am were both built on the Lemans Sport Coupe body, the same basic body shell used from 73-77. Of course, the nose and tail were styled differently, but the body in between was basically the same. Even both the Grand Am and the Can Am used the Grand Prix dash. The Can Am came with the 200 hp 400 (No 455 was available for 1977). The 73 Grand Am was available with either a 230 hp 400, or a 250 hp 455. I don't necessarily think the Grand Am and Can Am "fit in" with each other, since they were 2 different ideas. The Grand Am was to be a combo of sport and luxury and compete with euro cars. The Can Am was developed to add a sporty GTO type image to the Lemans to try to create interest in the Lemans due to lagging sales.
@@grand73am Thank you for your reply. I loved the 73 model. I've searched in vain for one I could restore to it's true purpose. The irony is that today, this old
Man drives a 4 banger Mustang Eco Boost that is faster than any of the cars of the malaise period
This was a lot of fun. Maybe you could do a video on the 1971 Chrysler 300 Hurst Edition
Good suggestion! I will add it to the list
Luckily a friend of mine had one in 1981 & I loved that car, we used to cruise that thing on the strip in Atlanta every weekend! Unfortunately Allen was killed in a car accident in his 1978 Z28 ✌💖☮
I recently sold my 77 LeMans sports Coupe that was in my family since new. Not a great car in general. I always liked the Can Am better. I had heard the story about the spoiler debacle being the cause of its demise. Thanks for the flashback.
Thanks for posting this video. I always asking people do they remember the Pontiac Can-Am. They look at me like I'm crazy.
@3:53 I don’t know what I want more the car or his wig😂😅😂😮😂😅
I can not stop looking at it
There was a small number of the white 2 door Lemans that the car was based on sold after it was removed from the lineup. They were left over "basis" cars and a few have been spotted here and there. They are unique the big engine was not a regular option i think. Check into it.
I saw one driving around about 5 years ago on PA 51 near Kecksburg Pennsylvania.
One of probably less than 1,000 left
reminds me a bit of a '76 leMans coupe i drove in the 90's - love those body styles !
Gotta figure that 200 net hours power was likely closer to 280-300 gross.
Also a good point - I should have mentioned that
No, more like 245-250 SAE gross hp.
Each engine was different when converting, but in NO engine was there a 50% difference.
i seen one exactly like that in a junk yard in 85/86, looked to be in pretty good shape, its the only one ive seen in person
Back end is like a camaro with shortened regal lights. Interesting car.
Al, your vids are awesome, greatly made and appreciated!
This is the first time that I’ve come across one of your videos.
I watched.
I enjoyed.
I ‘liked’.
And I subscribed.
Guy down the road from me growing up had a Pontiac Can Am he bought new.
In 2021 I saw a (probably) refurbished Can Am with a 455 (8.X?) l in Milford Ct. It was BEAUTIFUL! Hate to think what the price tag was on that bad boy! Thx for the vid.
7.5L
If they were selling 300,000 Grand Prix’s the Can Am wasn’t stealing enough sales to make any difference.
There is a Can Am local to me. Shows up at car shows occasionally. Only one I've ever seen in person.
We had 2 Can Am ‘s on the lot when I started selling Pontiacs in July 1977 😊
Nice job with the video and thank you for including my car at 4:20-4:26
My '77 Cutlass 'S' had the 2.41:1 limited slip rear end. Acceleration was not included.
Been hearing about the Can Am for quite some time now. It's a fantastic car. Pity not a lot of people know about it.
I have a 78 caprice coupe so i love this era of gm. Great story never heard or seen one of these cars
I've only seen a couple of these at car shows! Still Beautiful today and more interesting than todays design aspects! The hood scoop is what I remember the most from Smokey and the Bandit Movies Seems like All the police cars had them!
Ever do a video on the Chevy Laguna S3?
I remember seeing one at one of those high-profile auctions: all original, unrestored, low mileage survivor - very nice. While I was not terribly familiar with its this model being a one-year run, I thought the selling price of 35k was insultingly low.
I worked at a Pontiac dealership in 77 but we never saw a can am. But we had worked on some earlier GTOs . A man came in and bought 2 silver anniversary trans ams an automatic and a 4 speed the auto one had a 403 the 4 speed had a 301 . He said he was buying them for his son so after graduation they could ride around in a pair of classics. I don't know what became of them. I do know they were stored in Richmond VA somewhere the same year placed on blocks and deflating the tires and also climate control.
Wow what a cool dad buying them for him and his son!
@@rarecars3336 the coolest part was that his son was only one year old
@@rarecars3336 I always wondered how it turned out for the dad and son and the cars themselves
The last true muscle car was built in 1970. In 1971 emission laws went into effect and emission controls on engines took away the muscle. For example the Chevy 454 went from 400+ horsepower to about 200.
Chevy didn't make 455 🤦♂️
@@Tom-cp6yj Opps,corrected. Of course I meant the 454. The Chevy 397 also lost a lot of power, and I’ll never forget The Beach Boys song about the 408.😂
I love Pontiac and The Can Am , but truly it was not a Muscle Car . What is a Muscle Car ? it is a production car that could seat more than 2 people and could do the Quarter Mile in 15.50 or less . The Can Am was still a cool car though . I remember when these cars came out , I wanted one . GM did put out another Muscle Car in 1987 , The Buick Grand National & GNX , but I digress , thanks for the video .
I remember checking one out in a dealership in 1977 when I was 16. My brother had a '75 trans am so I was drawn to the shaker hood and side vents. I liked the car. Too bad sales were so low.
The 74-76 Trans ams are my favorite!
I honestly believe they could've done better styling the front clip, I can't unsee past that.
The end of the muscle car era was actually a truck, the ‘78-‘79 Dodge L’il Red Express. The highest performance factory vehicle.
Yes, the LRW's 6150 GVWR let it circumvent the EPA emissions, so it made 225 hp vs 170 for the smogger 360. [SAE net].
I had a 77' Olsmobile Omega with a 327 V8, it had a racing cam. and a 4 barrel carb. with dual exhaust and headers! 3 speed hydromatic tranny! I could do the 1/4 in under 12 seconds.. Basically it was a NOVA.. I preferred Oldsmobile performance cars over Pontiac.. Try the Oldsmobile 425 Super Rocket engine with solid lifters.. My buddy had a 69' Cutlass with a 425 Super Rocket..
What many people don't understand is that, maybe styling aside depending on your taste, these cars are better in EVERY way vs the earlier muscle cars besides horsepower. And that's a very easy fix with a little tuning. How many people leave current performance cars stock? These were no different.
I was there! I can remember the exact location last seeing that Pontiac. It was considered slow, uninspiring, unattractive and NOT a muscle car!!
I could "almost" see this as being the last muscle car, but the muscle is missing from the drive-line. Pretty sad.
the EPA killed it
@@andrewdonohue1853 Yes they did. And with all this emissions crap, and better mileage on vehicles, they still complain about air pollution. Nothing more than an issue to line their pockets with $.
@@joequillun7790 trying to force EVs on a population that doesnt want them is utter stupidity
I was 17 in 1977, and I begged my father to buy the Can Am. I knew that he would never buy a TA or Z28, but the Can Am seemed to be the right middle of the pack ride back then. I would have ordered it with the stripe delete, as I never really cared for the 70s styling, as it just seemed to scream "I'm not really all that fast but look at me anyways!" I saw one of them in the showroom, and it took forever to eventually sell, so dad could have actually picked it up rather cheaply, but he went with a hatchback Nova instead, which I was totally embarrassed to ride in or drive. I had a V-8 Vega at the time that was my ride that I built in auto shop at my school, but I wanted the Can Am for dates! The V-8 Vega just scared the girls too much. I always liked the bigger cars with classier interiors, and the Can Am was definitely much classier than a plain-Jane Nova.
that rally gauge cluster gave you plenty to look at while turning your 18-second quarter mile😂
First time I saw a Can Am was in person. I swore someone added the shaker from a TA to a GP.
40 years ago I had a neighbor that had one that was a four-speed!
They were 77 lemans sports with the trans am w72, shaker scoop, decals and a spoiler.
A 4 speed 6.6 Pontiac powered Trans Am was definitely faster than a Can Am. Can Am's were a doll up campaign to sell more cars, which several of the manufacturers did to several different models. The 73-74 Super Duty 455 Trans Am was really the last muscle car of the 70's as it would very easily out perform any American made car from 1973 until the Buick Grand National appeared and in it's factory original 200hp the Buick couldn't stand up to a Super Duty 455 either.
Talking to wangers and Arnie Beswick, the spoiler mold story was actually bs.. the epa was on Pontiac about emissions and fuel mileage, so they canceled them after about 1500 being produced. The remaining cars got turned back into lemans sports again and sold at dealers, but they still had the trans Am motor in em
Knew somebody had a 73 Grand Am 455 which was a much better looking car, to the Can-Am
I think of the Can Am as more of an attempt to revive the Grand Am than an attempt to re-start the muscle car market. Certainly, the Grand Am, especially the 1973 model year, was far more distinctive, with a front tend that differed from the LeMans, the window louvers in the rear quarters, the red/white/blue stripes, and the rubber front nose cone. That they were exclusively 400 CI and bigger V8s didn't hurt, and I have heard that there were even a few Grand Ams made in 1973 that had the Trans Am's Super Duty 455. The interior dash used real wood, not plastic wood, and it had a really nice interior overall. I seem to recall that the Grand Am was thought to be a great handling car, even with the 455 on board.
Way cool car! Volo auto museum has one available right now