TAYLER HOLDER CALLS OUT JOSH RICHARDS AND BRI BREAKS DOWN BOA GATE - BFFs EP. 98
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- We start the show with headlines caused by our last episode with Mads Lewis, as her insinuation that she was a victim of Tayler Holder caused him to speak publicly for the first time about the accusations since his appearance on our podcast in February. We break down missing the Mads admission in real time, Tayler making his response video claiming he sent a C&D, Dave reaching out to both Mads and Tayler, Tayler calling out Josh, and Tayler's mom getting in the mix calling out both BFFs and Mads.
We then get into the regular headlines of people thinking Nessa was saying Mads and her were not friendly, Mads response, Vinnie Hacker signifying the death of Tik Tok houses after leaving the Hype House, Trisha Paytas giving birth, Adam Levine's bizarre cheating scandal, Leo and Gigi Hadid dating, Kim Kardashian saying her next man will not be famous, Short King Surgery, Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera beefing, Post Malone's fall at his show, and Tik Tokkers making NyQuil Chicken.
We finish with BFFs corner with the long awaited explantation with what truly happened with Bri's encounter at the Harry Styles concert (#BoaGate), the fallout since, and finish up with Grace's RNR opponent getting some work in with David Dobrik and the Vlog Squad.
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Josh during this episode, mainly when speaking about Tayler, impressed me. He was extremely well-spoken and articulated his points seamlessly. I'm not sure if he is taking a class or not, but whatever he is doing came through!
Thank you, I came on here to see if anyone else noticed
I thought so too, minus the fact about telling Tayler to get reciepts where josh did 100% infact say that he got arrested on his podcast. which he knew the video is up still so they were trying to rework the narrative on that a little, but yeah I agree he came across a lot more mature.
Totally agree!!
Same I also noticed that
Dave caught so off guard by Wendy is hilarious😂😂 “Taylers mother who now I despise” killed me💀💀💀
So many people have come on your podcast to say he’s a bad person. Dixie, Bryce, Mads, Everyone!!! His best friends that I believe are credible like Kelianne, Mian twins, Markell and Nate they have removed themselves from him and WHY ? Whatever he has done, he’s done something
Bryce was his brother. They always called each other brothers. The fact that he says it means something.
@@michellelocke5408 100%!
Bryce just goes w whatever for clout let's be serious ladies lol
Nah bc when things could affect your reputation a lot of people now a days will choose that now in that regard I think he may have reacted a certain way and it came at them but to still back away while he is going through this especially if they are not true shows what kind of supposed to be friends they are bc he loved them like family.
That's not how that works.
the fact that markell spoke out publicly in support of mads is very telling. he was one of tayler’s closest friends and lived in tayler’s content house and was asked to come out to l.a. by tayler basically discovered by tayler. when they had their facebook watch show, markell was always so grateful for all the opportunities he’d been given by tayler. so for markell to go against tayler had to be extremely difficult so that makes me think that markell knows the allegations are true
Agreed
yessss, more people need to understand this !
Markell really that’s who you are going with? The guy who takes photos with James Charles and dances with him for views🤮. Yeah what a credible source you have there. That guy has no morals and would sellout anyone for views.
Sorry but that isn’t proof.
nah me and markell grew up in the same town. hes changed
It’s not innocent until proven guilty when he is basically threatening with people’s pictures or information he has on people. That is blatant intimidation tactics and in my opinion he looks guilty as ever after that video.
As a victim myself if the person who made me a victim said those things and acted like that I would be TERRIFIED to come forward with my story. Females get such shit and if he has nudes people will automatically discredit her because she sent nudes so she had to have wanted it and that’s BS.
This whole situation enrages me. These victims deserve a safe opportunity to accuse. And further more they surely do NOT owe Taylor a conversation with him. That whole thing is unreal.
Yup and these comments are DISGUSTING saying that if he was guilty he wouldn’t have made that video. He absolutely would because he’s able to publicly intimidate people. He’s a social media figure and he should be happy all that’s plummeting is his social media career, not prison time.
For real though. I wish people understood this. The way he acted, the body language and look on his face, he looks guilty as all hell. He also looks like he’s getting sick, which leads me to believe guilt is eating away at him as he’s waiting for the other shoe to drop… and I totally agree. Not a single person owes him SHIT. The only “conversation” that should be had with anyone, is the cops. It’s insane to me that he can freely post some intimidating ass shit, threatening to literally leak someone’s nudes… and not have any consequences. This shit is just gross. It makes me mad as an SA survivor to see some jackass pulling this crap.
This ^^^^
And if he is out here saying he has x y and z on people then I suppose he knows exactly
Who the people who could be victims are…..
Not helping the innocent argument again.
He didn’t black mail anyone lmao. You 15 year old girls are truly dangerous on social media. His point was that if law enforcement gets involved… he has texts and images that show the girl was already involved in sexual relations
Tayler 100% did something. Your friends don’t just stop kickin it with you over absolutely nothing. 🤷🏻♀️
dave beefing with taylor holder’s mother had me 😭
I love when it’s just them 3 they compliment each other so perfectly
I know right they dont even really need guests
props to silvana, dave calling a different girl “the most beautiful girl in the world” every episode would have me throwing up 🥰💀
Right! I get that you’re still gonna find other people attractive besides your partner & that’s normal but there’s a difference between that and calling others the most beautiful girl in the world no matter how confident you are, it must hurt for your bf to call multiple women his #1😅
@@cydneyo1817 frrrr, especially since it’s like every episode 💀
With his net worth he can say whatever he wants and she’s not going anywhere
@@crisp7575 slay
For Tayler to blatantly blackmail his victims via that video is INSANE!!!!
Wtf!!!
He's really acting sus 🤨
Also insane to throw around SA allegations and rumors, and make zero move to take a legal avenue after 8 months. Kid's cancelling livelihoods over rumors. The burden of proof is on the accuser, and there's a reason for that. Dave's take here is straight bitch mode seeing as he's been in pretty much the same situation.
Look up the definition of blackmail.
He didn’t black mail anyone lmao. You 15 year old girls are truly dangerous on social media. His point was that if law enforcement gets involved… he has texts and images that show the girl was already involved in sexual relations
@@WildSatoriForest except like they said Dave shut them down and toon action immediately because he knew they weren’t true but we have these people name dropping and threatening.
bri squaring up to the mum is literally the funniest thing ever
Rude Karen’s deserve to be humbled lmao
I was definitely laughing at her when she did that.
i missed it when did it happen?
I was hearing tayler out until he threatened the nudes. Why the hell would you say that
There should be no reason to say “I have dirt on them and that’s why they don’t want to come forward about sexual assault” like…? If they didn’t have any credible dirt there would be no need to say anything about having nudes
Agreed!
He didn’t black mail anyone lmao. You 15 year old girls are truly dangerous on social media. His point was that if law enforcement gets involved… he has texts and images that show the girl was already involved in sexual relations
You brain really isn’t all the way there is it
Also wonder if Josh was alluding to Tayler sleeping with an underage girl 🤔 I can’t be the only person who noticed the face he made when Tayler says “I haven’t slept with anyone underage”. That was the only part josh reacted to 🤷🏻♀️ Time stamp is 3.20.
Watching a person make a face is called a assumption. Don't get this twisted pretentious bias in your head about something that might not even be true.
I caught that too, Would make sense he is like 6 years older than that group of influencers.
Your stupid. Your forgetting the point that he had not been contacted about any law enforcement about this allegation and btw this has been going on 8 months, cease and desist was handed out so they can’t bullshit about anything online. If one of those guys knows the story why can’t they just report it??? and tayler has already said he didn’t do anything wrong and he can’t prove anything when there’s no evidence and he has no idea who he sexually assaulted.
@@bingbong1269 you’re*
@@bingbong1269 my point exactly
I love how invested Dave is. Personally reaching out to these kids is just amazing lol
TAYLERS WHOLE VIDEO WAS A THREAT. POINT BLANK PERIOD
How would you react to being accused of something you didn’t do?
Thank God they didn't give more time to the boa story. Bri is so full of herself now I can't watch much more with her. Saying she thought they were following her because of BFF's? she was humbled? you are by far the most unHumbled person I've ever seen. Good Luck time to move to LA and quit barstool.
How many time are they going to make poor Brianna say intense in that takis plug 🤣
Hahahahahahahah
LOL
dave’s demeanor makes me feel like i’m in a work meeting
Another takeaway from the early conversation is that Taylor & his team clearly lied several times even in the context of this podcast’s airing etc. Plus the barely veiled threats, his close friends siding with the girls, and him knowing way in advance that things were gonna come out. On the flip side we’ve seen Mads tell the truth and be doubted before, and it seems like she really keeps it real. Plus, what reason would she have to implicate herself in this if it wasn’t true? Doesn’t seem like her to want to deal with that amount of harsh scrutiny just for attention, she already has a following and a platform, she’s not desperate. To me it seems like Taylor was snitching on himself in that video and beyond.
Okay the Tayler video definitely gave me the creeps and what he said about victims not speaking out is because AS A VICTIM IT IS FUCKING HARD TO DO THAT MANY DONT DO IT OUT OF FEELING EMBARRASSED
They should’ve done a follow up interview this week with MADS to ask her about the incident that happened between her and Tayler
they should’ve so then tayler could expose her for the bad she’s done like his mom said he would do if she tried to keep lying on his name. mads is the type to speak up bc she can’t keep her mouth shut & she would’ve already after tayler’s video but she knows whats to come if she keeps saying everything she’s saying.
Yeah cuz interviewing an alleged rape victim under the presumption that they’d want to relive and divulge the details of their trauma on their lil podcast would be sooo the right environment for that and sooo appropriate! 🤡
Josh is a teachers’ son.
He is intuitive and smart about some things.
Yeah but that doesn’t mean anything. I work in the education field as well, but I don’t think it doesn’t matter what field people are in to be smart.
It’s wild that Bri took a video of herself after getting assaulted by a random women as a form of defense just to then see the internet completely switch the story to be against the victim. Super pathetic that no one believes her
You are only hearing one side of the story.... the daughters Tick Tok tells a different story. Also Bri does not not talk about her Tick Tok that was taken down because it was deemed as bullying the mother and daughter, where Bri talked about how she wished the mother and daughter would be killed and hoped they would die.
@@readytomeet1 if someone thinks they got something stolen ask the person don’t attack them. The mom was in the wrong either way
the reason people stopped believing her after the fact (in the beginning majority of ppl were on her side before she posted more video’s) is because she posted a video saying she didn’t knows who’s BOA it was and the mom took it off her neck and then deleted that, later on she posted a multiple part video saying she was “dragged down to the ground” by the woman, she also claimed to have had the BOA on all night then later admitted she didn’t . she kept om changing the story. if she would have just let it rest and not changed the story so many times it wouldn’t have never been made such a big deal and she would have never been attacked for lying, even in this she changes her story multiple times. obviously the internet is going to dislike being lied to. also now she’s claiming the lady said BRI pulled the BOA off the girls neck but that was never mentioned in the video or in bris explanations and the daughter also didn’t say bri ripped it from her neck, it is just another added storyline to make it seem like they are more crazy that what happened
When bri says something’s crazy >>>
Idk why but I feel like because MADS said something last week and that she implied that she was a victim and then everyone backed her and because it went viral and people were in her corner TAYLER had to be like she’s not a victim I can’t stay quiet anymore
How is she not a victim what
Exactly!!
Bro you gotta start using some punctuation. That’s a damn long run on sentence
Hi everyone this is a grown ass woman worried about tik tok drama lmaoooo
@@Cdyoung15 I hate people like you. It’s a TH-cam comment relax
I think the cease and desist. Is fake cause it would use her legal name and not her nickname. I think he made a fake cease and desist to make her look that she is lying again. But I believed Mads from the start so I'm always going to believe her.
If it’s name you use legally it counts and that’s name she uses legally and plus I searched you can put peoples abbreviated or just names they go by
Pretty funny, the mom saying Bri ripped it off the girls neck - but the daughter on video saying 'I just noticed it was gone'. LOLZ
tayler completely switching friend groups and not talking to anybody he used to speaks volumes itself. and him not saying anything at all UNTIL mads came forward speaks for itself as well. he’s not a good guy and that’s been proven time and time again.
I liked Tayler before all this stuff happened- and I was confused when all of these people who were supposedly his best friends started unfollowing him and speaking bad on him, like Sean, Markell, Kellianne, the twins, Nate, Bryce, etc. The fact that they did turn on him seemed like a red flag. The BFFs episode with him was a red flag. But, the biggest red flag is Mads alluding to her involvement in the situation. I believe Mads because she really has a track record of telling the truth that no one is ready to hear. I hope she's doing ok- because to have the courage to come forward as a victim when the alleged perpetrator is also in the public (and his mother) are PUBLICLY threatening you that if you come forward they'll release your nudes/etc. I hope she's able to step forward in a safe, private way with a legal team and set the record straight.
Even if Taylor is innocent which I don’t think he is it’s so gross to keep those kinds of pictures after you stop talking to someone like delete them it almost seems like he kept them for blackmail
“Taylers mother WHOS now I despise” 💀💀💀
i cant even watch this podcast anymore bc how awful bri is… idk anyone who watches this. i’ve personally met her in LA and she is actually horrible. clout chasing and super rude! unless you have over 500k don’t bother trying to talk to her , she’ll roll her eyes at you 🤣
The problem is no one could speak out bc he instantly sent out cease and desist letters to everybody. Also how are people supposed to prove they have been sa’ed? There’s no way to undeniably prove it other than if you got footage of it or the abuser admitted it
when he says “why does anyone come out and say it” he means like reports it to law enforcement
I’m not defending him, but cease and desists can’t silence you unless you’re actually defamatory towards the assailant. they work like “if you continue slandering me, I will take legal action” - that’s when everyone, mostly Bryce, made vague videos about it trying to loophole around directly accusing him. Mads did however, imply that she’s a victim which is slander.. and if she speaks up again, backing her claim, legal action will surely be taken
@@ello3110 no i get that. They were wondering why no one was accusing him of a specific thing but he sent everyone the cease and desist letters so everyone had to be vague. It’s also really sad that he’s making it where victims can not speak out. If Mads is actually a victim, how is she supposed to tell her story if she says anything against him then it would become a legal matter. A lot of SAs do not have hardcore evidence to prove that the SA did occur. It’s just such an unfair situation for victims if this whole thing is true
@@samanthaschoen8889 all tayler is asking for is a private conversation with legal representation. that’s it that’s all he wants..this is more than just tiktok drama
@@samanthaschoen8889 she said on the last show you can not send victims cease and desist letters implying that she was a victim AND that she never received a letter, all he did was show us proof that she was in fact sent a letter. It's young kids with fame following the herd and they are doing it for clout and likes, the fact that we are talking about it and it's a headline just further proves it. It is extremely odd that after 7 months that no one has come forth to make allegations, especially not a group. As we've seen with multiple SA cases that when a high profile person is being blamed for something like this that multiple victims come forward, often seeking legal protection etc.
This just looks like kids and fame.
Yall didn’t go over the reason Bri is getting the most hate. At the end of the video they watched Bri says she hopes the lady gets into a car accident and dies or something like that.
Wish y’all would have Tabitha on so she could spill the tea on the hype house
Yess I love her she seems so sweet
Have Tab on. Great idea.
As a victim of SA twice both times legally I couldn’t come forward because I was 12 and 13 at the time and I didn’t say anything because I was scared I had no idea what to do and I didn’t go and get checked so legally I couldn’t come forward because there would be no proof medically because I didn’t go and get checked I ended up not telling anyone until 2 almost 3 years later. So I’m saying these victims could have experienced the same thing. I’m one to look at both sides of the story but I don’t believe the cease and assist it just had her nickname on it.
I'm stanning Dave more and more each day
Dave was so proud of his investigative skills at the beginning 👏🏼
So Taylor saying he has nudes and whatever.. is that him trying to say that because he has nudes and msgs and what not from these girls that means that whatever was happening was consensual?
Because having nudes of someone they willingly gave does not mean that excuses any type of SA against them?
Does that mean he is blackmailing victim’s too, like wth
Gives me revenge porn vibes!
yeah that was def a veiled threat lol
Omg I’m laughing at bri, lowkey feel like Dave has rubbed off on her with how honest she’s being and how she is standing up for herself.
“and they want me to apologize I’m like ‘for what you idiots’” lol 46:49
First for lying about the boa and for the Tick Tok that wad taken down for bullying and saying that she hoped that the mother and daughter would die.... Thought her brand was be a decent Human???
@@readytomeet1 the lady literally dragged it off her neck …? You wanted her to be nice ?
@@carleycarpenter5990 where did you see that happen?
Omg I noticed that this episode too when she was talking abt sumner and Adam Levine she was shitting on her so hard 😭
joshs face when he’s watching taylor say he’s never SAd someone 😳😳😳
I noticed that he did that too after he said he never slept w anyone underage! I’m thinking he might have made that face cuz mads is only 19 now so if we go by the timeline that he SA’d mads a couple years ago 2019/2020 she would’ve been 16/17 😅
32:01 huge props to bri, she was soo right abiut the baby aand the name😂
I think Josh knows and he’s trying to be so respectful but professional at the same time
Thank you Bri for sticking up for victims
BRI WEARING THE BOA HAS ME CRYINH
Dave going off on Taylor’s mom is hilarious lol
This seems like a case of classic intimidation. He sent cease and desist letters, and then mentioned that he had his victims' nudes in his response video? Almost seems like he's blackmailing them
Bri is the worst
18:20 Dave states nothing has been said about the allegations, but that's BECAUSE Taylor send NDA's to everyone who knows about them.
thnat's not how NDAs work. If there is a crime committed they are null
Taylor specifically said that the letters are saying if your not talking about the turnt then don’t speak on it at all… so if it’s not true so that right says a lot if nobody saying anything bc there’s lies being told
I think he's talking about the actual victim not everyone else that loves drama. People going off of he said she said aren't valid reasons on the topic unless they were there or have seen evidence
yeah but if they’re all sent via email then ????
You mean cease and desist? Doesn’t matter.
I just think its weird that his own friends unfollowed him and no longer want to be associated with him. Like even Jordyn Jones unfollowed him!
From the video shown, they didn't say you ripped it off of her neck. but YOU keep saying the mom ripped it off of your neck and it's just your words against theirs. Those girls were just trying to defend their mom. The mom was trying to protect her daughter. Then there's you just being mean af calling people OLD, CRAZY, IDIOT ... from everything shown, you're the bully. At the end of the day, you DID take someone's boa and you're acting like you didn't do anything wrong.
Tayler seems terrifying lmao
Just the way Taylor was speaking in that clip gives me the creeps and SERIOUS Andrew Tate vibes 😬
How he sounded completely serious and irritated bc of the situation definitely not Andrew Tate vibes
What are Andrew Tate vibes?
for real
@@katoinedixon5086 he basically threatened the girls saying he has nudes/videos/stuff on them as proof so if they presumably come forward those will get leaked & also sending someone a nude isn’t the same as consenting to having sex w someone it doesn’t prove anything so yea a thinly veiled threat & saying how since they sent him nudes they must’ve wanted it is gross, misogynistic & wrong
@@cydneyo1817 we’ll hats how your looking at if you saw him as guilty to start with anybody in an Situation will say something along the line like that when someone STARTS a rumor and such and yeah it can be called a threat but if it’s the truth (only if it’s the truth) wouldn’t you!?
Bris ego is so annoying
As someone whose a victim of SA & only ran across this situation bc of my teen....I know how dirty the world can be & how cut throat any industry is or can be, but as someone twice ya age....my life experiences lead me to believe when there's smoke there's 99% fire & fact your "closest" friends have made a point to distance themselves says sooo much, actions ALWAYS SPEAK LOUDER than words & jst bc they haven't addressed you don't mean that they don't feel victimized by you in some way especially bc SA survivors can take time to process & some NVR come forward or go to authorities for different reasons but more than anything, no matter whose said what it's those that were closest like Kellianne think is her name MADE SURE TO DISTANCE HERSELF, 1 person that was soooo close & makes me feel even if these ppl just distanced themselves bc as you said "rumors" then there's a reason why they felt it could have happened or have seen or been around when your actions have made them feel like the "rumors" could be true bc of what they've seen or heard you do bc if there was 0 validity in the claims then not EVERY SINGLE PERSON would have walked away 🤷♀️ Plenty of "influencers" have made mistakes publicly & yet never had EVERYONE distance themselves & that says alot. Sorry but your actions or feelings have obviously made those who were close to you feel it was or very well could be absolutely true which says alot. SA isn't easy to prove anyway bc it's usually only 2 ppl involved & whatever happened I pray if there's victim(s) they heal & find peace & that Karma or justice applies to those it needs to....plus it's very telling that only after Mads spoke out about it THEN YOU DID decide to speak out instead of when it initially came out 🤔
Tayler and his mother are so delusional they don’t realize they both just threatened and intimidated victims in an attempt
to prevent them from coming forward with allegations. Disgusting.
Not Josh saying females lmao 🚩
Not Bri being such a hater and a hypocrite towards Sumner when Bri admitted on her own podcast that she’s cheated on almost every boyfriend she’s ever had 💀
I think Taylor is talking about Josh’s tea tok podcast not the bff pod. Him and Bryce were talking about it saying that they can’t fake the police report. And the title of his video says tayler holder arrested?!
Yea I was thinking about that too it's weird how Josh didn't mention that.
Agreed.
@@laurenlane7150 they know exactly what he is talking about their trying to make it seem like he lies they know what their doing especially josh. If that was your friend one day how could you change up on them without evidence and just a rumor which is crazy just shows their loyalty they care about being cancelled more than eveyething else
oh shit. you’re right
Yeah I was remembering the same exact thing while Josh was playing stupid and acting like Tayler was wrong in suggesting he do research. He thinks that he’s slick by playing deliberately obtuse 💀🥴
Bri is such an L. Get her off the podcast. She thinks she can call anyone out their name but the first time you call her out she gets super offended.
Taylor’s video is giving Sienna Mae video vibes
Please tell Dave to LISTEN when ppl are talking. He missed a huge opportunity last week with Mads bc he was in such a hurry. The pod is an hour, if you don’t get to everything, that’s fine, but don’t railroad someone bc you’re in a hurry.
Also, some of the questions, are terrible! You guys know what “clout farming” is. Don’t waste time asking ppl dumb questions about stuff they obviously did for views. Idk if the guys writing up the sheets do it on purpose, but anyone with half a brain knows these “influencers” are doing things to get attention.
Sometimes podcasts need to be 2+ hours for a reason. If a guest has to go that’s one thing but rushing to fit an hour means things get missed.
Tell that to Devon, the girl who writes those notes
Big mad at strangers that don't know you exist
They have a team write up the sheets for them pal 😂
agreed. they should try to make this more personal rather than all about headlines. it’s clear what their audience cares about and thinks is more important and they should listen to us!!
he’s literally just saying “if you say anything i’ll expose all these things you’ve sent me” like get out of here dude
When it comes to Mads & Taylor, I used to think Taylor was 1 of the okay ones but now seeing the way he's acting...no..& I'm always critical of accusations. I don't believe them automatically I research the situation & wait for evidence & I've been on both sides before. Accused & accusers & I've yet to be wrong... & Taylor really gives me negative vibes.
Mads, I used to strongly dislike. I'd always gotten a stuck up, fake drama queen vibe off of her like she would do anything for attention. & I never took what she said as truth. But when she was on BFFs & said that my eyes got teary & it gave me chills. I immediately felt she was being truthful & I truly believe her & feel for her. But this is just the feeling I get.... IDK about others but i'm over seeing Taylor walk around like he's untouchable.
Nope Josh nice try you and bryce said it on your tea talk. then you publicly apologized for it how do you forget that is beyond me 🙄 it's amazing . funny how you KNOW facts and we're supposed to believe you yet how do you forge you PUBliCLY apologized. Bree is so weak I can't stand her anymore
i KNEW the boa was going to be a topic this week, i literally called it
Any disagreement w bri = her just calling u crazy
Can you guys include time stamps of what you’re discussing through the pod cast?
Y’all DEFINITELY deserve more subs! Keep grinding! Lovin the content! #BFFs
Yes josh! So glad you said that. Pictures and text messages don’t equivalent to sex.
Poor young girls will do anything for cloud won't they cuz I don't believe a damn word she says
I just wanna say in the beginning we’re Josh said he never really said anything about Tayler being arrested he did talk about it on his tea talk with Bryce Hall
Big s/o to bri tree, she can change her style/look every week and still look 🔥
Josh is acting like he didn’t have Bryce on his podcast and saying Taylor got arrested …
bri was literally telling a woman to get hit by a car over a boa. lost respect
Nobody cares 💀
not Bri pulling a Dave with the pronunciation of zayns last name lmao
at the end of his video he asks all his "friends" who left him, to come talk to him and find out what REALLY happened ????? so obviously something happened
Girls should have a choice when to speak up but when your telling people in the capacity that know. Or how many people allude to knowing. He has a right to defend himself. You can’t defame someone without being ready to put it all out there.
He can sue for defamation but I don’t see him doing that
Did you see Josh's expression while watching the clip of Taylor??
i feel like something happent between nessa and josh again, they dont seem as close as the past few months
I think Dave discovered the word ‘elude’ this past weekend lol
Dave saying he despises Tayler's mom now is hilarious 😂
It's also because Mads probably has more social influence then most of the victims. She probably just dropped the hint in hopes of others also coming forward, but now when they see the way she was silenced, as big as she is, they'll probably just keep it in forever.
nooo bc i lost at at the end when josh said protect your boas
Dave think about it I know your on his side because you got accused too. But how would he know who his "victims" are and say he has their nudes how is he supposed to know which people he had "intimate" relations are accusing him unless deep down he knows who he assaulted
exactly! THIS!!!
Hypothetical: If they told him over the phone (not a text or dm a actual call do there’s nothing written) that they were going to do this. Hypothetical: Maybe he just wanted a hookup and this person wanted more, and after they are trying to ruin his life. It’s not like there aren’t crazy people out there with vendettas over shit like that. Hypothetical: Maybe he knew led this person on and that’s why they had sex and that’s the vendetta. He led me on, I ruin his life. He doesn’t want to release messages bc they make him look like a piece of shit, but not a assaulter, and he’s trying to avoid the first and hope it goes away. Idk just throwing things out there that completely could be the case. He could also be a assaulter. Who knows. But I do agree with the innocent until proven guilty attitude generally
Exactly. Threatening nudes too is very telling. It also doesn’t make sense why everyone of his close friends at one point distanced themselves from him if they were just “rumors”.
That’s what I was thinking too. He must know who all the people are if he has all that “proof” against them already
Trying to make a case on psychology isn't a valid clue or evidence to what you're trying to prove.
Bri is so immature sorry
Lmao bri in the chaotic red boa
Josh did accuse him on his Tea Talk video. He also never apologized for falsely accusing him. Speaks volumes about him. I pity him and the parents he was raised by.
Tho Josh made an video after he said that 'Taylor was arrested.' He said false information & he said apologized in general for saying fake news. I don't think he need to apologize to Taylor. They aren't even friends. It's weird that Taylor never brought this it up, it's been months that video was online. Feel like Taylor wanted to 'prove.' That bff was giving fake news about him. But he ended up look more guilty in my eyes.
@@carolinemine2277 well you don’t believe in innocent until proven guilty then. That’s pitiful. And Josh never said “I’m sorry” or “I apologize” for falsely accusing someone. That’s libel. You’re welcome for this.
@@_petertaylor since you know so much explain the cease and desist of mads why doesn’t it have her legal name ? Wouldn’t it also be a misdemeanor for a fake document
@@alosanchez6815 no, because it was a letter not an order. I would say Tayler would have been better using a legal name and not a nickname/stage name. If you believe the same, then we stand on common ground.
It seems like everyone close to Tayler Holder has distanced themselves. There must be some validity to the claims if his inner circle believes it...
& from sounds of email it seems like he knows exactly what "allegations" are & fact they tried to make yall sign NDA? 🤔 sketchy af🤷♀️😬🤣🤦♀️ can't help but feel like since way his team spoke in msgs at beginning makes me wonder since he knew what was being said & was certain he would be canceled & seems lk was expecting legal action bc of way it was worded so don't think it's too far fetched to think he paid off a victim(s) & part of deal was signing NDA, which is why he now suddenly he comes forward 🤔 & is acting so righteous bc he knows part of his settlement out court required them sign NDA so now he talking tough just thought I've 👂 of crazier 💩 happening
It’s revenge porn which is so f’ed up the whole thing… I feel like Taylor can’t say anything right so he stays silent.
Keep in mind district attorneys and law enforcement will wait to bring forth a charge until their case is sound and solid enough to eventually convict the person. They’re not just going to charge him willy nilly until they have a strong case against him. Just because they haven’t yet, does not by any means mean they won’t.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking.
Taylor is 1000% guilty or he would have denied the 1st time he was on here smfh
The video bri made is absolutely ridiculous. I wish they would have watched it.
Why is Dave kind of on Taylor's side? Is it because Dave also has SA allegations? Why would ALL OF HIS FRIENDS leave him? Even his CHILDHOOD FRIEND. There's no reason everyone would just decide to do this to him. He's also blackmailing people and is being disgusted. It's up to the victim to decide when and if they want to come forward.
Also, he kept saying that Mads wasn't the victim, insinuating that there is, in fact, a victim.
Also, if no on has come forward then how does he have "proof" he didn't do it. That would mean that someone has, in fact, confronted him.
The blackmailing is absolutely disgusting. And btelw BELIEVE ALL VICTIMS. It is SO hard to prove SA and there's such a huge amount of victim blaming. This makes it so hard to come forward.
I think that it seems like Tayler is using the legal system to intimidate these women out of making public claims. If he wants them to come forward, he should stop sending them cease and desist letters. The reality is that the legal system makes victims of sexual assault relive their trauma over and over again, and not many victims want to go through that process.
taylor holder keeps saying no accusations but its actually sexual assault
allegations
I guest the knew thing is guilty to proven innocent, guys be careful because it going to come back to bite you at one point
IKR... rumors can ruin
ppls life. Why is no one coming foward or pressing charges if what's being said is true
Josh Richard’s you and Bryce hall reported on your channel that Taylor got are arrested.
Yeah I think they mentioned he was arrested in one of the Tea Talks.
I understand what Bris saying, if someone came at me like that I would’ve acted a lot worse than she did 😂. An adult stranger screaming in your face after grabbing something off your body? I’m going off. And if bri knew it was her daughters and not a random boa, I doubt she’d stay right behind her in line lmao definitely should’ve started as just a conversation if anything.
You are only hearing one side of the story, the daughters Tick Tok tells a different story.
@@readytomeet1 Please learn how to spell TIK TOK and stop looking for comments about bri. We know that you're crazy if you act like that. 🫡😂😂
REMINDER VICTIMS DO NOT NEED TO PRESS CHARGES IN ORDER TO BE VICTIMS
That’s true.