One thing people who didn’t grow up in that era and, more concerning, don’t know anything about cars will not know that a big block in a station wagon does not make it a muscle car. Just suggests that whoever bought it intended for it to be used to tow a boat, camper, or just haul around a scout troop - or just got a good deal at the dealership. All the manufacturers offered wagons with 454s, 455s, 440s, 429s and 460s - even 396s and 427s. There might be some truth to the muscle wagon argument with the rare versions ordered with 4 speeds, but they weren’t marketed as muscle cars. The SS Chevell wagon withhe 245 horse 454 might be an exception but I don’t recall much difference in that 454’s power output and a camper special pickup. Incidentally the wagons, while spirited, weighed more than a two door intermediate with a high performance big block and the weight was a penalty against anything that didn’t have any more performance options than sporty rims and stripe kits. Most of the station wagon smoking muscle car stories I’ve heard were against Chevelles, Cutlasses, Mustangs, and Camaros, etc powered by anything from a six cylinder to a V8 with a two barrel. That’s when a big block four barrel wagon not loaded down with a bunch of high school students or towing a boat would likely have the edge.
I had a 1958 Edsel 2 door Roundup wagon that was fast. It had the 361 V8 FE engine, and a 3 speed manual transmission. During part of the production run in '58 there was a problem with the cams going flat. Ford replaced them with the cam for a 352 Ford FE Police Interceptor engine, which gave the Edsel more power. The Roundup body was the same as the 1957 Ford Del Rio wagon, which was light enough that they often came with a 6 cylinder engine. My car with the 361 engine and the warmed up cam, plus the 4 barrel carb that all '58 Edsel cars had, made for a fast grocery-getter.
I'm puzzled why ANY models newer than 1971 were included in this video. '70 was the peak year. '71 MOPAR and a few others still had power or only minimally reduced power. By 1972, it was all over, excepting the '73/'74 Pontiac Trans Am Super Dutys. Then the long, dark malaise days until the 1987 Buick GNX.
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My dad had a 72' Coronet Crestwood with a 383 ci and a torqueflite that did high 13s
My parents had several wagons when I was little in the late 60's/early 70s. The fastest was the 68 Olds Vista Cruiser wagon with a 400 V8 4 Barrel. That thing would fly.
lest we forget the 1968 buick sport wagon, I was blown the doors off those vista cruisers in my dads sport wagon.,
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Wagons had big power because back then trucks weren't as prolific as they are now and dad's needed something that could pull the airstream on vacations
So where is this '69 GTO wagon? And the 455 was standard on the '70 Buick estate wagon, it was no muscle wagon. And again where is The Machine wagon? I don't that ever existed except in your make believe world.
I own a 1968 mercury montego station wagon with a 461 and a 4r70w with 389 rear gear heck of a sleeper especially when I open the exhaust cut outs. P.S. you have more brands than just GM no credibility on your part
Sorry, guys. I, to this day, cannot get past the later model Chevelle SS's sloped rear end. 🤮 This would get a dislike but the owner disabled that feature.👎👎👎
In 1973 GM just trashed the A-body cars due to fuel/emissions/safety rules. The "Colonnades" were an insult to their predecessors. Over time I came to get used to their appearance but they never were a true "muscle car". Some nice graphics and decals though in trying to make up for it. OTOH, most that I ever rode in had a cushy/soft ride, which was kind of a GM thing.
Which of these powerful wagons would you choose for your dream collection?
They were nice but you need to do your homework on wagons. I had a 71 Ford ltd wagon with a 429 4V and it ran great.
One thing people who didn’t grow up in that era and, more concerning, don’t know anything about cars will not know that a big block in a station wagon does not make it a muscle car. Just suggests that whoever bought it intended for it to be used to tow a boat, camper, or just haul around a scout troop - or just got a good deal at the dealership. All the manufacturers offered wagons with 454s, 455s, 440s, 429s and 460s - even 396s and 427s. There might be some truth to the muscle wagon argument with the rare versions ordered with 4 speeds, but they weren’t marketed as muscle cars. The SS Chevell wagon withhe 245 horse 454 might be an exception but I don’t recall much difference in that 454’s power output and a camper special pickup. Incidentally the wagons, while spirited, weighed more than a two door intermediate with a high performance big block and the weight was a penalty against anything that didn’t have any more performance options than sporty rims and stripe kits. Most of the station wagon smoking muscle car stories I’ve heard were against Chevelles, Cutlasses, Mustangs, and Camaros, etc powered by anything from a six cylinder to a V8 with a two barrel. That’s when a big block four barrel wagon not loaded down with a bunch of high school students or towing a boat would likely have the edge.
I own a 1967 Buick Sport Wagon. Can pass everything but a gas pump. I LOVE it!
I had a 1958 Edsel 2 door Roundup wagon that was fast. It had the 361 V8 FE engine, and a 3 speed manual transmission. During part of the production run in '58 there was a problem with the cams going flat. Ford replaced them with the cam for a 352 Ford FE Police Interceptor engine, which gave the Edsel more power. The Roundup body was the same as the 1957 Ford Del Rio wagon, which was light enough that they often came with a 6 cylinder engine. My car with the 361 engine and the warmed up cam, plus the 4 barrel carb that all '58 Edsel cars had, made for a fast grocery-getter.
Cool story!
I'm puzzled why ANY models newer than 1971 were included in this video. '70 was the peak year. '71 MOPAR and a few others still had power or only minimally reduced power. By 1972, it was all over, excepting the '73/'74 Pontiac Trans Am Super Dutys. Then the long, dark malaise days until the 1987 Buick GNX.
My dad had a 72' Coronet Crestwood with a 383 ci and a torqueflite that did high 13s
Cool story. Did he put a pair of JATO's over the rear wheel wells? :o)
I once had a 1973 Ford Ltd wagon with the 351/400 modified and it had a good amount of giddy up and go when i needed it
Had a 71 Ford ltd wagon and had a 429 4V and ran like a bat out of h$ll. This guy did not do his homework on wagons.
As a kid my dad bought a 1970 olds V.C. a burnout monster what smoke shows loved it.
Cool Cars! Glenn
My parents had several wagons when I was little in the late 60's/early 70s. The fastest was the 68 Olds Vista Cruiser wagon with a 400 V8 4 Barrel. That thing would fly.
lest we forget the 1968 buick sport wagon, I was blown the doors off those vista cruisers in my dads sport wagon.,
Wagons had big power because back then trucks weren't as prolific as they are now and dad's needed something that could pull the airstream on vacations
My friend's mother had a Pontiac with a 455 in it.Boy would that thing smoke the tires.Saw him burn up a set of New tires in 1 day.
You have no mopars so you're credibility takes an immediate hit sir
This is true. MOPAR kept on fighting with the HEMI through the 1971 model year.
So sad no more , but looks like car manufacturers learning bring back old style, looks like newnold F150 coming
Cadillac ctsv wagon 565 hp
350 rocket was the great engine for this car
So where is this '69 GTO wagon? And the 455 was standard on the '70 Buick estate wagon, it was no muscle wagon. And again where is The Machine wagon? I don't that ever existed except in your make believe world.
I believe the GTO front end shown was the 66/67 era?
@@jeffreypinder9398numerous home made GTO wagons both 64-65 & 66-67 are shown but no '69 GTO wagon.
@@richardrice8076 agreed. We had a 68 GTO Convertible.
@@jeffreypinder9398 jus' saw a vedero green '68 at a show this past Sunday. Beautiful.
@@richardrice8076 ours was white and gray.
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I own a 1968 mercury montego station wagon with a 461 and a 4r70w with 389 rear gear heck of a sleeper especially when I open the exhaust cut outs. P.S. you have more brands than just GM no credibility on your part
Sorry, guys. I, to this day, cannot get past the later model Chevelle SS's sloped rear end. 🤮 This would get a dislike but the owner disabled that feature.👎👎👎
In 1973 GM just trashed the A-body cars due to fuel/emissions/safety rules. The "Colonnades" were an insult to their predecessors. Over time I came to get used to their appearance but they never were a true "muscle car". Some nice graphics and decals though in trying to make up for it. OTOH, most that I ever rode in had a cushy/soft ride, which was kind of a GM thing.
Disgusting that he calls these Muscle cars sure they’re nice I’d drive one but they’re not Muscle cars