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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 เม.ย. 2024
- Nico Williams and Jan Oblak speak about the match between Atletico Madrid and Athletic Club being paused due to racist abuse toward Williams from the crowd. Gemma Soler joins ESPN FC to discuss what was done inside the stadium with security and what other measures could be taken.
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The racists from Spain will still try to blame him like Vinicius 😂😂👌🏾
"but he provoked them" lol the racists are not very smart
Thank god vini was not playing
Else people are gonna say he was provoking the fans,,,such stupidity
Boo hoo
@@lalo38th41idiots everywhere
@@lalo38th41 🤡
@@lalo38th41 ?
@@lalo38th41fucking racist
That's a Spanish player. A respectful kid too.
A Spanish player? And then?
@@Sinna226 what are you on? He’s Spanish. Period
@@Sinna226 the point is they are abusing a player that holds the same nationality, someone who represents their country.
@@hamzazmamri5027racism ain’t about nationality
@@angelquizhpe2473 For sure, but the point I was making is that being racist against a foreigner is disgusting but even more so against your compatriots.
Not surprising. It’s Spain.
Italia too
Racism is global, bruvs.
Earth... it's earth..
No one is surprised, but they still need to think how to solve it
And i thought England was bad🤦♂️
Crazy that when vini and madrid said the same thing, we were overreacting 🙄. I won’t forget that espn was saying he was provoking them too
Because is Madrid now is other team that their fans did the same against Madrid players is bad. Is.bad no matter what f all this racist piece of s....
@@oscarvaldez5693 Pinicius is a much bigger piece of s than all these fans combined. He is a disgrace to football
@@oscarvaldez5693 what did you just write dude omg please reread before you press submit
No, fanboy, they said it was wrong, without question
@@davidt3956 You're wrong. They said it's wrong but they also said that Vini reacting incites racists to keep doing it.
To all people saying Vini Jr is the only one that gets abused bc of how provocative he is
I don't think you're looking at the full picture. People like me aren't saying Vini is the only black man racially abused. We say, him winding up opposition fans makes him a bigger target for racist abuse. No way am I saying it's Vini's fault for the abuse he gets, all I'm saying is what most black parents taught us young black children. " Don't give them(racists) a reason to target you"
@@afccapetown2726 so he's supposed to stop his flashy playing style/passion to symbolically let the racists win?
This boy seemed to deal with it with a lot more maturity tbh.
There’s a difference with provoking and winding up….. everyone winds up opponents in the heat of the moment n if that leads you to racism well sports is not for u
@@jahazielrameshwar561 Not everyone does it the same way, though. That's why no one likes a player like Antony
Wait a second, this can't be true, because I was told this only happens to Vini and it's his fault for provoking the fans, and that he's the only player in the history of La Liga to get racially abused, so he should stop crying about it.
1. Economic penalty.
2. Stadium closures.
3. Removal of points.
no
@@dominiczhao
Oh yes! All the Spanish authorities (the FA and the police together) need to do is look no further than the British model. Strong democracies, with laws in place, have no problem dealing with this.
No, transfer ban!
all 3
@@dominiczhaowhat do you mean no
It always amazes me that the players from the team whose fans are accused of the racist behavior never hear anything, smh!!
Is not for them, racism is everywhere in Spain. They ignore it. If it is not you or your family, you won't say anything, right?
They always pretend bro
I thought I am the only one who has taken note of that. The corner kick was being taken from the side of his field and he couldn't hear it. Maybe because it wasn't directed at him otherwise he would heard it very clearly.
Exactly! And a few moments later he says "wherever you go you hear everything from the crowd". Players basically deny that racism exists cos they don't want fans backlash
Oblak dodged the question lol typical
He starts off saying he doesn't hear anything & ends with saying he hopes to not hear it anymore.....😒😒😒
He literally says to stop saying those things and that it is inappropriate. It's not his first language.
He be like: ahhh....ahhhh....ahhh....ahhhh as if he's slow or something
@@theishow96English is his 4th language ffs
Alessandro, I like your point. Club needs to be playing with empty stadium and point deductions for the fans to understand
This is not about La Liga or Spanish football. This is a microcosm of Spanish society. Any "solution" you come up with is irrelevant bc you are just putting a bandaid over a larger problem. This supersedes black players in La Liga. Black people most likely receive the same racism in their everyday lives in Spain.
Same old bs, don’t pause simply walk off the pitch.
They should get another job if words hurt them and have weak meantlity
@@Prasko131ok racist 😂😂😂
@@Prasko131racist 🤢🤢🤢
@@Prasko131 Curious, you are saying that blk players should accept being racially abused while playing?
@@Prasko131 Racist troll.
Get it together Spain and Italy. It’s 2024 ffs.
2024?
that means people must behave according with you
its 2024
but you dont know, you do you, i do me slavery is over
@@benedibrava
That’s right slavery is over. That includes being a slave to backward behavior whilst the rest of civilized society has acknowledged that the only way for all of us to live and prosper together is to respect one another and not through the denigration of others because they don’t look like you.
Wah
Don’t you find it weird that they’re the least looking white peoples in Europe yet the biggest racists?
@@user-sz2ut4od6s slavery is over, but many people still want to control other people's mouth, people still want to own people. its your mouth, run it as you want. slavery is for someone to freely do what he wants with himself, not be told what to do with himself.. not society impose anything on no one, or make decision for someone about his life, his mouth...; you are like people who teach lie of evolutionism and expect no trolling of blacks
La Liga Should Do More In Combating Racism In Spanish Football
People been saying this for decades
@@AM2K2*for centuries👍
Bro, Spanish culture. These people are racists.
It's almost impossible to get rid of racism in spanish football because it is a deeply ingrained societal issue. It is widespread in the authorities who have the power to enforce change, for example the La Liga president Tebas
impossible to get rid of racism?
if you keep on teaching lie of evolutionism
and keep tell people who they can be, by censoring their speech
you will hear more than what you dont want to hear
Yes La Liga president is a full time racist
Sad but true.
Very true statement. This is how their stupid parents raised them.
The Williams family are always calm,why are they being abused now....they do say vini Junior do provoke them
Teams who are victims need to not only pause games, they need to stop and not play
Calling for all-white la liga?
As soon as I heard a game was stopped due to racism I already knew it was Atletico Madrid fans
In these matters is it mostly the home team that hosts the offending fans. Has an away travelling fan ever been charged/ found acting in this manner? If so, then the solution must impact the home team directly- time out their own player - in that exact game.
I bet they will find a way to blame this on Vinicius jr
Fax😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
Crazy for this to happen to a Spanish kid too. One of them. Sucks, gotta just pause the game something more drastic has to happen
Something drastic agreed. Maybe I being naive but I do not think the majority of these offenders are out-n-out racists that require reeducation. I suspect they act in mischief, taking any opportunity to disrupt a game or player. They are like an internet troll.
@@OGCHuilaImagine if they shouted Homophobia slurs. “Oh they aren’t homophobic they are just giving trouble”
@@neikomccalla2623stop conflating racism with homophobia... That's disrespectful to the struggle we black people have gone through and still go through all over the world
@@karabomafa5609 this right here. I’m Hispanic but we get our fair share too in the U.S. especially leaning my home town of Miami and moving up North.
He's still black. Never will be Spanish, ask balotelli
Craziest part is he plays for Spain... What a country, Jesus
Sorry you have to go through that my Ghanaian brother!! Continue to play with pride. Don't ever lose yourself!!
He's Basque.
@@signoresantinoburnett1169😅 it doesn’t seem like that for. These people i mean messed up society over there
@princejustinanku760 - Umm, no, he's NOT Ghanaian. He's Spanish. You can't have it both ways.
It must’ve been Vinicius jr fault! That’s how they think
they think right
if anyone ever try to silence you
say more of what makes them mad
its your mouth refuse to be slave
@@benedibrava I’m just waiting on someone from the club to say that it’s Nico Williams’s fault. People from Spain love to throw stones while living in glass houses
@@benedibravapeople who say it need to pay big money because people like you are slave of money 😂
Oh maybe he provoked them like Vini?
Isn’t this only like the 5th time it’s happened here? 🙄 just force them to play in a closed stadium already and teach them a lesson.
Well said Ale👏🏾
A lot of sick people in position of power who are supposed to stop it, secretly love and ENJOY IT!
🎯🎯🎯
The problem with racism is that it's always gonna be a "them" problem. Them meaning us Black people. People that don't face it haha very little motivation to fight it. They don't understand it and it is clearly not something they feel the need to learn about. Look at people's reactions when you tell them about incidents you experienced...they are often surprised and don't know that over 90% of Black people in the UK report they have experienced it. I wish unaffected people would learn about it by studying the history and the way it works the way it is deflected and justified and above all...thw culture of victim blaming.
And you dont understand that this bs idea of diversity was forced upon the europeans to fullfill some stupid UN Agendas.
We are sick of permanently seeing masses of foreginers in our own home.
I understand it but i’ll get in trouble if i say why racism exists
Somehow the other player never hear anything. If it was enough for the ref to stop the match- you can't have not heard...unless you're a racist too and such things sound normal to you.
That's why I just don't like athletic I don't understand y those ppl r so aggressive or acting out against black ppl r url jealous or just ashamed they stronger n a Lil better at the game
Atletico*, Athletic is Athletic Bilbao.
I know you mean well, that last part is an idiotic comment too. Racism can go many directions. We all grow as individuals, as an older man I still have a much growing to do. Be respectful to everyone and yourself.
Atletico classy as always. Nothing will come out of it😂
That’s because the Spanish FA, the clubs and the police each don’t think it’s their problem. They refuse to get on the same page. Black players should stop going to play in Spain. Other leagues should refuse to play in Spain thereby forcing UEFA to put pressure on them.
@@user-sz2ut4od6sSpain won’t change because the league was used to do sports washing by an authoritarian regime which stayed in power until 1973 and still has some kind of ideological influence. The authoritarian Francisco Franco who came to power with the help of Nazis openly used to say that Real Madrid was their best ambassador when Spain was politically isolated , the regime initially used to support Athletico de Madrid.. its a corrupt country where he rights of people of Basque Country, Valencia, Catalunya etc is suppressed by power in Madrid .. Spain is effed up country
LaLiga president won't do anything especially if its athletico club and Real Madrid since they are the 2 clubs who voted against him if it was other club he would've done something
Along with Barca, he hates those 3 since their are the only teams who've played in every season and have never been relegated.
It’s a shame that an amazing league it’s being damaged by a small group of ignorants, they should not be allowed anymore to stadiums or even better, if they start doing that they should stop the game and give it to the team affected. They need to take actions instead of just talk… 😢
I’m glad Ale Moreno called them out, they made as Vinicius is the problem. I even watched former Barcelona players blaming Vinicius after Barcelona vs Madrid game last year. The former Barca pundits were insinuating that Vinicius caused the problem. What a shame Spanish people are
I agree with Steve, I was typing FIFA when he mentioned it. FIFA and UEFA need to get actively involved
Typical day in la liga. Least it be forgotten when the Spanish(Villareal) crowd threw a banana at Dani Alves. Dani trumped it by picking the banana up and eating it and then taking the corner kick.
And that comment about the fans not caring bc they'll get away with it...yea when there is no consequence there is no reason to stop. Those fans would say "its just jokes" "we aren't being serious".
Well that Dani Alves situation was more to show them that he is proud to be a dark skinned person. And that he just doesn't give a d what people be chanting.
And i think he ate the banana to show people they shouldn't be throwing food like that. There are people in this world who would really like to eat that banana only cause they don't have something to eat
why was oblak beating around the bush? say it right and loud... stop faking!
Oblak is from a part of the world where calling black people monkeys happens in schools. Of course he won't think it's a big deal.
Ale is spot on points deductions
Why did ESPN cut out the part from 5:06? What did he say?
Why the edit?
Enough is enough
olkay go to classroom which reach the lie of evolutionism, tell them
"enough is enough of teaching humans are animals & they are related to monkeys"
people are behaving like animals, and correctly reaching the conclusion
according with your teaching, some must be closer to monkeys than others
they did it to O. Dembele too, didn't they? The idea that it's ok to be racist to some and not others... Pathetic!
Well said Ale, points deduction will massively hurt these clubs then they will take this seriously
These people need to grow up so sad
Oblak didn't hear guys
Poor educations and an insult to their parents.
Wow and not a tear in sight? That's how you handle the situation
How do you expect to Compete with the Premier League when you're still allowing such things in your League and worse,, he'll be representing Spain in the Euros...La Liga is losing it's appeal the Bundesliga is much much better.
Spain being Spain. What a surprise 🤦♀️
Totally agree with Ale right on point 👏 enough is enough people. Remember what the judge said back when it happened to Vini he/she said that it happened during a great rivalry game and it only lasted 3 minutes it’s embarrassing 😳 but hey ITS LA LIGA
People will dressed as opponent fans trying to get points reduction.
Well it’s Spain.
I once saw one of the most stupid comment saying that these people are not really racist and are just trying help there team to win.
Somehow Oblak didn't hear anything 😂😂😂.
He is also Happy for that.
Thank you ESPN FC for addressing this issue and saying how things really are. You are very different from your Spanish speaking colleagues ESPN Deportes, they always blame the victim, like Vinni Jr. I’m glad to know that I can still watch ESPN because of ESPN FC.
Laliga will never catch Premier league with this attitude to racism...the gap is already big
what gap, england is still one of the worlds most racist countries, they stole more than $1trillion $$ from africa during colonialism and imperialism, they still have about a thousand artifacts in english museums which was stolen about a century or more ago. All western countries are racist, there is none better than the other. Just because you allow black people to play in your league means nothing. The british empire was one of the most criminal, racists, and violent
Those people in the Stadium chanting aren't just fans of Atleti, they're the teachers, the bus drivers, the doctors, they're chefs.... in other words, these are the people of Spain and Madrid. Just so probably happens that other clubs have fans who hide it better. Anyway, Vini, Rodrygo, Jude, Aurelio, Edward, Alaba, Rudiger, Mendy, Kylian*, Alphonso* ... just be careful out there. Only so much Courtois, and Dani can protect you from during those 90 minutes.
Ale is SPOT on
Nico William one of Spain best player deserves some respect
Don't you love it when a player gives the "I didn't hear" line and then go on to say "wherever you go you hear everything from the stands" 😅...
Spain being so close to africa and the moor a highly classy black society once lived in spain, despite this spain is one of the most racist nations in europe, coz the laws against it are relaxed and basically not frowned upon...
Thank you for the options... hefty repercussions to the club, points, Financial , empty stands.
How do spain and italy get away with this every year?disgusting
They like freedom of speech.
@@superstrongrfreedom of speech unless you say from the river to the sea,right?
@@superstrongrfreedom of speech unless you say from the r1ver t0 the 🌊, right?😂
The problem with giving the team negative points or emptying home games is rival fans.
For example let's say Barcelona fans want Real Madrid to loose points so they put on some Madrid jerseys go to a home game and start screaming the N Word towards a black player so now Real Madrid are deducted points in a scheme to get them points removed, that's why it's hard to just say get rid of points
Exactly but there are people who are very dumb and have like 60 IQ and can't even think of this
Because Racist fans aren't part of the game... You can't deduct points because simply some fans chanting a slur, unless the players to another players.
You can easily disprove one is not a fan of specific club by investigating social media, investigate what family/friends say. Clubs pays for investigation or ransom that disproves they are not fans of the club.
No, I don't see such a scenario
They need to close the stadium right away it's crazy what you seen in there👈😢💭
As a Catalan, it's not surprising that this keeps happening. And Spain is definitely not going to do anything about it
Well it's happened in the montjuic and Ive experienced it several times in Barcelona. O sea que no esta tan lejos amigo.
But Barca fans and atletico fans say that racism is nomal🤷🏻
Go to school.
I don’t see the Spanish Football Federation being as bothered about it as they are about anything even remotely similar happening to Vini Jr…
What’s funny is that they say they don’t have a racial problem.
If it there is no punishment then they are not going to stop, period.
Atletico must be fined and play behind closed doors their fans have been doing this for more than enough
Spain won’t change because the league was used to do sports washing by an authoritarian regime which stayed in power until 1973 and still has some kind of ideological influence. The authoritarian Francisco Franco who came to power with the help of Nazis openly used to say that Real Madrid was their best ambassador when Spain was politically isolated and did everything to make them win (mostly cheat) , the regime initially used to support Athletico de Madrid.. its a corrupt country where the rights of people of Basque Country, Valencia, Catalunya etc is suppressed by power in Madrid .. Spain is effed up
Mfs on the comments “ Vini is a provocateur is not racism “
Pinicius is a disgrace to football so hopefully fans keep doing what they do to him but not ot players like Nico
@@Prasko131 They do to alot of players..... But now the players are deciding to not take it silently...
Just look at the idiot who responded first to your comment. He’s all over this story posting the same filth that it’s ‘okay’ to racially abuse Vinicius Jr. because of his behavior but not ‘normal’ players like Nico. The people who talk like this come from uncivilized cultures where this behavior is institutionalized. They call it the caste system. I would like them to know that way of thinking is doomed because it is purely evil.
@@Prasko131 Vinicius Jr? He'll keep scoring and assisting, especially against Barcelona. He's the biggest Brazilian scorer in El Clasico, and he's just 23. He'll dominate La Liga for years to come💯.
Nico is an impressive person
Am disappointed in yano black response to this I love this club and this keeper but to he's saying he isn't weather by it
These things don't happen at the "White House Santiago Bernabeu !" If you play good as an opponent you are applauded.. The thing is the clubs that are doing this have within there club black players... this is just a sick mentality!!! It needs to be address with much stricter punishments.
Ban atletico from having fans at games maybe 2-3 matches
If they do continue might as well relegate them
This club is the image of his coach, staff, players and the whole organization.
La liga is too weak to act against this kind of behavior.
We'll continue seeing this in laliga sadly cuz the authorities aren't ready to do anything about it.
Athleti fans mirror the club. 0 class.
The Home teams always dont hear 👂 shiid, big club lite ATM wat a shame. points must be deducted like 10 points…..
Im WITH ALE ITS TRUE SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO THE CLUBS AND THEIR FANS FOR THIS BEHAVIOR. EMPTY STADIUM FOR 2 GAMES!!!!! TICKET SALE PERCENTAGE GIVEN TO THE CLUB AND PLAYERS AFFECTED BY THIS, ANYTHING AT ALL BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE
This guy is a starting player for the Spanish national team. And you have idiots just insulting this kid. Unbelievable. Funny how none of these Madridistas have anything to say when it's happening in their neck of the woods. Will they condemn their city rivals?
I wonder how dark skinned players playing for these clubs feel about how some of their fans be so racial..
Thank you Jan.
As football lover. Spain fa and LA liga should work on such activities. If this thing happens the should play the games without fans in stadium or play games outside Spain. Come the federation and the Spanish government should look into this on higher priority. The Spanish Fa should check how things go in premier league [England]. Shame on Spanish Fa and all those who abuse . Atletico Madrid should get point decucted.
Well put Ale 💯
the home team be forced to forfeit the match when this happens
Shameful.
Spain just doing Spain things…
I don’t understand how this is such an ugly issue at this stadium. Maybe, I’m wrong. But, I don’t hear about Real Madrid stadium doing this. Why is it constantly at this stadium, in the same city?
Atheltico fans are mostly poor uneducated middle class people thats why
The Williams are quite well behaved.....some people just hate to like you
Yet still, people are doing racism . It is not normal. We are all one peoples
you ate teaching lie of evolutionism, what do you expect?
some people are closer to monkeys
that's the conclusion if you believe in the lie of evolutionism .
teach racism, expect no racism. modern humans 101
no, according with govt who teach evolutionism, you are an animal
people are behaving as they are thought
also they teach them, humans are related to monkeys
but what race is closer to monkeys
I would say it's not a case of just doing...but rather being.
Point deduction is a horrible idea. That could go so wrong. But stop games and make them play in empty stadiums. And of course ban the people that do it.
Stop the league. It is a cesspool of racism. No more La Liga.
It might make the table crazy for a year but it would def make the fans stop
@@walterzarate4674 What if people that hate a club cause trouble while pretending to be fans of that club knowing the club will lose points?
@@ghostc1pher … great point., but that would be doing quite a bit lol
@@walterzarate4674 You know there are people that would gladly go to jail if it meant denying another club the trophy. Especially if there is monetary incentive.
Close the stand now.
vini is no crybaby afterrall
Not surprised...it's Spain!!! 🤡🤡🤡
People(fans) who choose to act like this will continue to do so, as long as pausing the match is the only consequence. Begin to penalise the offending fans by timing out a player from their own team.
If Major League Soccer raises their salary cap then players like him would have more reason to play their in North America as opposed to racist Western Europe.
And Spain want to host the 2030 world cup with this racism 😢
Atleti again?. Shocked I tell ya.