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Forgiveness is an act of kindness towards self, my abusers can’t come back until they are ready to reconcile, reconciliation requires accountability for one’s own actions and that is something they’re not capable of doing because they don’t have a repentant heart, we are commanded to forgive not reconcile.
Jordan Peterson said something along the lines of “You don’t have to forgive someone because they say sorry, you forgive someone when they repent of their actions and actually change”. But also it seems like most folks don’t have the guts to actually change
“Repentance is change of action”- Narcissists don’t understand this concept. If they’re seeking forgiveness, they should change their actions. If they’re not repenting, what’s there to forgive? Now, we can forgive on our end, but we don’t have to forget. If they don’t repent; if they don’t change their actions, then we can hold our boundaries and set up new boundaries to protect ourselves. God doesn’t require anyone to remain under oppression. It’s our God-given right to remove ourselves from oppression. And narcissistic abuse is one type of oppression.
My husband always tells me I don't know how to love neither how to be loved😊. The last time he said it to me I told him...yes, I don't know. Please teach me how
BuT if there is no repentance, it must be on you solely to forgive them. The forgiveness they want won’t ever be reached anyhow, so you have to break off to the side, and learn what forgiveness truly looks like, & then do it…bc God forgave us. They won’t ever repent, so your future can’t ride on what they do. It’s what they want anyhow, bc if you don’t actually forgive them, then God will hold you truly accountable. And to some extent, from my experience, I’ve learned that I have an enemy in my narcissist. He truly made me his enemy, and has treated me as such, like I’m a sibling rival. It’s sad and sick. But that’s why I say YOU have to control the forgiveness YOU give. ✌🏼🩶🇺🇸
My former husband and pastor always controlled me with the 'wives obey your husbands''. Even the elders said but God says 'love your wives as Christ loved the church!' but it was like talking to a wall.
My ex-husband would tell me I needed to submit to him and obey him anytime we disagreed about something. He said we wouldn’t have anything to argue about if I just obeyed him and submitted. He was so unhappy and did anything to try to take my joy!!! If he knew I loved something, he would withhold it. If I told him something he did hurt me, he would keep doing it. I was never hurt by anyone in my life more than him. I’d rather be single, celibate, alone and at peace my whole life than be with him!
The standard of Godly perfection can never be met, so not supporting your husband is a REJECTION of Christ unless he's a SINNER Wich there is no standard and all that she says is mostly true but if he's trying to live by God's word then what she says is Contrary to the Bible.
@@mrk4972 really he beat me in bed while I slept! He cheated with other women, he left me because I wouldn't undue his shoelaces when he came home from work, while I struggled with two children under 18 months. He left me and has a 22 year old daughter to a woman he has never married. From being a pastor (fully qualified) to not believing in God or the devil. I'll trust in the Lord as I know I loved and obeyed him. But he was and is a psychopath as he also tried to poison me 8 weekends in row. God have mercy on you if you support this behaviour. Love your wife like Christ loves the church. You must be a monster yourself to support this!!!
Yes, yes, yes! I’m SO glad someone else has pointed out the last “twisted scripture,” the “Honor thy father and thy mother.” That is the most misused of them all. In fact, they may have the “honor thy father and mother part down” (or think they do), but they do not read the line that comes AFTER that verse, which is “Do not provoke thy children to anger.”
They twist the word “ honor” to mean “obey,” even fir their adult married children. John Bevere wrote a book called Honors Reward. He says, after much study on honor, he concluded it basically means “to show value.”
Yep describes my experience growing up and into adulthood...i got yelled at by my dad in my 30's that i wasn't honoring my father or mother every time I had an alternate thought, feeling, opinion, Likes or dislikes, or just tried to maintain my own boundaries and independence separate from their control. They just wanted 100% obedience and subservience, a robot. He'd tell me how disrespectful I was and not honoring them. Heaven forbid i ever said "no". That was blasphemy that unleashed wrath and punishment.
Going on 27 years of Narc abuse. Two suicide attenpts (many years ago) 2 mental breakdowns, plathora of health issues and an awakening to the truth that almost broke me mentally, im climbing out of the madness. Scripture is the help and healing that is mending the mind mess that has been created. One day I pray to be free fully and thriving. Praying for each person who faces this horror, male or female. We all have endured hell on earth.
I know exactly what you are going through, 12 years of deep darkness & Spiritual Negativity by my baby mother. I also know witchcraft is involved. God Awakened me with the darkness & brought me into his Marvelous Light & Salvation. He Chose me.
My ex used to leave notes all around the house for me to find which said "the truth shall set you free" as if he knew something I didnt or trying to imply that I had something to confess to him when in actual fact it turned out he had three other women he was sleeping with behind my back. Funny thing is when I found out this information the Truth actually did set me free, we dont even speak anymore and when I see him I cant even imagine why I was ever interested in the first place, Thankyou Jesus for Setting me free for you are the way the TRUTH and the life and I love you so much Lord Amen
Sometimes what they say to you to manipulate you backfires on them. My ex used to constantly say I was selfish, a bad commutator, that I was illogical. He would blame all our arguments on my period. Well, over time I became generous, good at communication, and very logical.
I'm aware of a situation where the wife is the narcissist and the husband is the victim. And this was a military guy! I'm in prayer all the time for this family!!
Just met my estranged step daughter in law . She was abusive and some one stole my medication. She’s moving to the area. She wanted to camp in the driveway while she builds a house. Nooooo . Boundaries needed. Hod showed me she’s a theif , liar, and sadly she adopted a child to cure her empty nest syndrome. That child is ignored when she’s not showing her off.
I think you're talking about me. I met my wife in the military she was military, too. Controlled me like an R/C car. I had a child's cell phone so she could monitor everything and would block my phone from calling her or anyone when she got upset.
When a narcissist tries to manipulate scripture for their benefit against me, I prayed about it. I found Isaiah 41:11-12. That is their fate unless they repent, accept responsibility for their actions, and submit to the Almighty God.
Of course when I was walking away from a narcissist I got the "and you call yourself a Christian " I turned smiled and said "judge not lest you be judged" she had a look of pure shock on her face as I turned and walked away.
I had a similar encounter with the one I gotta deal with, but their response was a sinister smirk followed by them saying "you're finally learning how this game is played."
@@ingridgallagher1029 Yeah, I wanted to use Morse code to tell them not to be like that - that is, Morse code using my fist on their face. I controlled myself though so they got nothing from me (grey stone I think the therapists call it).
Cool video, My relationship of 5 years ended a month ago. The love of my life decided to leave me, I really love her so much I can’t stop thinking about her, I’ve tried my very best to get her back in my life, but to no avail, I’m frustrated, I don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts of her, but I can’t, I don’t know why I’m saying this here, I really miss her and just can’t stop thinking about her.
its difficult to let go of someone you love, i was in a similar situation, my relationship of 12 years ended, but i couldnt just let him go i did all i could to get him back, i had to seek the help of a spiritual counselor who helped me bring him back
I'm sorry about what you're going through. Praying for peace & reconciliation. I sincerely hope for the best for each of you, regardless of what God's plan is for each of you. God Bless. Be the light that washes away the darkness. 💕🙏🏼😇
Respond back to her, “Takes one to know one.” The difference is which sinners have repented and surrendered to Christ Jesus? Also, Jesus tells believers to judge among believers and test the spirits. We absolutely are taught and commanded to deal with sin within the Church(Body of Believers). How else can one be cast out of the Church if they refuse to repent? This is a lie from Satan that silences many believers. We are not to condemn another but we most certainly should be aware of what spirit is operating in them. Some will be restored to the Lord or else, at least, they are no longer being allowed into fellowship to spread their evil. A little leaven spoils the loaf.
@@melissaculpepper7663 My husband always came with biblical advice to me to shut me up. Thanks to knowing Jesus and the scripture I had good arguments I could stand against his manipulations. But he never would have let me convince him from anything that would have lead in repentence. No way! Instead he ghosted me every time he ran out of arguments. While I waited for him to return for talking about our issues and prayed for guidance and wisdom, he came back saying nothing pretending nothing had happened. It is useless discussing. You can't reach out to their twisted mind. You can't encounter a sick attitude in a healthy way of discussion. Just God can convince and heal them. Everything else is throwing pearls to the pigs. Shake the dust of the feet and leave the narcissist up to God.
Mark Drischoll is my favorite of all the big online preachers. Mark said that a narcasist uses scripture to convict you, but never themselves. I agree 100% with his statement. My deceased mother in law was an absolute narcky, and every time my wife and I would visit her mother, she always had a list of the peoples who had wronged her in the last week or so. She never looked inwards to herself, no personal analaysis at all.
His past mistakes that needed to be left in the past since he didn't like talking about them can be as far back as 1 minute..."it is in the past, forget about it already!"
"Leave and cleave" was used repeatedly by my soon to be ex-wife to try to convince me that I was commanded to cut off all ties to my family and previous relationships. It was a pathetic attempt to isolate me.
In Mark 3: 35 Jesus says “ for whoever does the will of God is my brother, sister, and mother”. In Mathew 10:36 Jesus states “ a man’s enemies will be members of his own household”. Narcissists, who are people of the lie and creatures of chaos, do Satan’s bidding in order to keep others from their God given destiny by engineering perpetual turmoil. Focus on Jesus and not on the storm and pray like your life depends on it because it does. God absolutely will carry you through and bring you out from under their controlling influence and the narcissist will become ensnared in the traps they set out for others. Have faith, do not despair, believe and it will be done, for we worship a mighty and just God who detests evil. Jeremiah 29:11 “For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to give you hope and a future”.
So good. And here's yet another scripture that needs to be heeded. Thou shalt not have any other gods before Me. Narcissist demand worship. They like their father the enemy, want/demand worship. They want to enslave people.. to bow down to them. For the Christian, this is Idol worship. Idolatry. They're aligned with their father like you say. Continuing to entertain the Narcissists will definitely keep one from completing their God appointed assignment on the earth which is the enemy's goal.
I think that is the bible my mother reads. She has said all of those twisted scriptures to me many times. Just two weeks ago she texts me saying God calls us to forgive... and forget...I have been struggling on how to honor her. I don't like her. she is evil and downright mean to me! she cuts off communication with me to punish me, I'm tired of it... I am 60 years old and still a sad hurt child... I am a Christian, I just need to focus on the Lord and stay in His word daily... Sometimes I just get stuck in a cloud of depression. Thank you, I certainly needed to hear this today... The twisted bible verses were spot on.
Thank you for bringing up “Honour your Mother & Father”. I moved away from my parents with my husband and kids at 38 years of age. I was constantly told I’m not honouring and that I was selfish for moving away. I needed this 🩷
But being able to detect the lies is only 1/2 of the battle. The other 1/2 is understanding how to respond to these lies. In this, the most effective scripture is “Answer not a fool, according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool, according to his folly lest he be wise in his own eyes.” Prov 26:4-5 It takes great discernment to be able to do this effectively, and to know when to apply the answering of the fool in this case, the narcissist, and when not to answer the narcissist in their continuous and never ending lies.
No one expects to discover they were deceived into a marriage by a wolf disguised in sheep's clothing. To discover that is what has in fact occurred, is incredibly traumatising on so many levels. Unfortunately, there are some denominations that totally rely on these exact twists of scripture, in order to keep women and children in bondage to manipulative abusers, because it suits those in power within those very churches to keep it that way. THANK YOU for posting this video.
Oh my goodness! He used number 3 every day! Claiming that it was written in that specific order so that the man cannot honour the woman until she submits to him. She must submit first before he will show her respect or honour! This in conjunction with women being the weaker/lesser vessel, the clone, that through which sin entered the world. That being said, I did submit and he still didn't respect me. So glad to be out of that! Thank you so much for this video, I wasn't crazy!
Bless you sister. Women aren't clones, we literally were taken out of Adam's body-"So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." (Genesis 1:27). Also, "So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.” (Genesis 2:21-23). Another thing, sin entered the world through one MAN, Adam, not a woman. Eve was deceived but Adam commited high Treason against The Lord-"Because of this, just as sin entered into the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death passed to all men, because all sinned." ( Roman's 5:12). Remember, we are all supposed to be ONE in Christ Jesus, where there are no males that are better than women." There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." (Galatians 3:28). Some men want to use your gender against you (which is an offense to the God who made you) and submit to them the way they perceive what submit means from their spirit of control lense. Our first priority is to submit to God before man, even ones own husband. 🙏
Twisting the Bible is simply put a person can have a one sided relationship so they can have the best of both worlds. Example They use forgiveness mercy grace love and compassion from the Bible to avoid consequences and do not get what they deserve.
They also want to lead you into sin. My ex told me he wanted to be the kind of husband that if he came home and caught me in bed with another man, he'd still want to stay together. I was so shocked and disgusted.
That's a hallmark of the personality of an unclean spirit. Filthy. That's a part of how unclean spirits in the Narcissist moves. Always Always some aspect of sexual impurity however it manifest. Perversion of God's design for s#x / sexuality.
I thought it was only my soon-to-be ex who said this. "If I come home and find you in bed with another man, I would close the door, and hope he satisfied you." What?!?!? He said it with a complete straight face and honest tone. Didn't not hear himself? What twisted thinking! He was trying to give me permission to cheat so he would feel better about it himself.
I filed for legal separation because I am trying to leave without harm. My abusive husband bashes me with the Bible verse, “God hates divorce.” He can’t stand that I refuse to backdown from my decision to leave him.
Paul’s epistles list numerous acceptable reasons for divorce. If a believer is engaged in ongoing unrepentant sin of any kind then you may treat them as an unbeliever. If you married to an unbeliever you are allowed to divorce them and remarry. Therefore, if your spouse is engaged in ongoing unrepentant sin against you then you can treat them like an unbeliever. You can divorce them and, if you choose, remarry. “God hates divorce.” Is not the only relevant scripture.
@@Dagnymarie1I had some in laws say this to me. And I said God hates liars abusers manipulators infidels...and all of a sudden, I heard so you see we have all sinned😂.... I said wow... no wonder their brother isnt moved by my pains. They just wanted me to go back to his house. After the scripure thing wasnt working (thank God for Kris and counselling), it got to mix of culture and scripture also- honour elders we have begged you over and over. 😳 Then I am asked, whether I even bother about how he is feeding..I was shocked , my mental.gealth that almost got me to a dangerous point was less important... They need me to go care for his sexual appetite ( am I a prostitute 😢)
@@patienceoyeleye5736 Leslie Vernick is a great resources for Christians in destructive relationships. (Anyone could benefit from her info but she addresses what the Bible really says)
“Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. Honor thy father and mother (which is the first commandment with promise), that it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.” … failing to scroll down to the next verse which states: “PARENTS PROVOKE NOT YOUR CHILDREN TO WRATH” … the hypocrisy is real!
Yeah I called out my mom saying that you also should not provoke me to anger according to the Bible and then instead of accepting that mistake she proudly screamed at me and accused me of calling her S*!**. She was basically projecting herself to me. And my dad is the same thing. I forgive them but I don’t live with them anymore.
We're supposed to forgive them just so they can feel better about themselves and then they can do it all over again and then lay all the blame on us and pount out and twist every single thing from our past since childhood.
Understanding Narcissism A narcissist lives in a fantasy world where he is a king in his court of slaves. He is superior and in control of them. So, any nonsubmission, disobedience, inattention, opposition, criticism, competition, defeat, disrespect, or even trying to be an equal is not tolerated and he will react with “narcissistic rage”. The Narcissist’s true self is broken and disgusting, and he sees this. This causes him intolerable shame and pain when he thinks of it or if others recognize it. This makes him chronically miserable, and envious of other “normal” people. This second false self of a king is a fake one he invented to mask the true one and stop the pain and shame. Its characteristics are the opposite of what he sees in his true self. It is omnipotent, great, all-knowing, highly successful, beautiful, unique, infallible, enviable, indispensable to others, in control, and charming. This second self is so fragile because it is fake. And he is willing to do anything even murder to hide the true self and show the other false one. Narcissistic supply is the continuous supply he needs from people to prop up this fake image and numb his pain. He needs it to prove to himself and to others that this second false self is real and to hide the true one. Every situation for him is a struggle to get this supply. Having a slave provides him with narcissistic supply. It is in his own interest that you become isolated, weak, afraid, dependent, inferior, broken, and a failure so that you conform to the role of a slave to the king. So, he studies you and then manipulates you to trap and destroy you to conform to that role. To do so he uses isolation, intimidation, gas lighting, Scapegoating, idealization (love bombing)/devaluation/discard cycles, criticism, projection, displacement, physical abuse, humiliation, lying, insults, judging, boundary violation, bragging, smearing, triangulation or giving you the silent treatment. In his eyes you are not a human with feelings, dignity and rights; you are just a source of supply. He lacks any empathy towards you. Imagine a hot air balloon on which an image of a king is drawn with an ugly deformed monkey hiding inside the balloon. It needs continuous inflation, which your job in life is to provide, or what’s inside would be seen.
Hey Kris, I have a question. How do you stop having negative thoughts throughout the day about how your parents have wronged you. Are there any strategies that you use to win over these negative thoughts.
Hi Julianna, I use 2 Corinthians 10: 5, when I have angry thoughts about someone: we take every thought to make it obedient to Christ. And I repeat to myself I have forgiven this person. The devil will try to bring these thoughts to you. To forgive doesn't means to restore relationships. I hope this will help you.
I can relate to these, but the one my parents used on me to keep me in a very bad place was “rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft “. Being rebellious was the last thing I wanted to do, so they were able to get me to do anything for them.
The verses pertaining to forgiveness in the Bible have a caveat everyone seems to miss: the offender MUST REPENT first!!!!! IF the offender does not repent of their offense against you, then you owe them NO forgiveness. Universal blanket forgiveness is not even offered by God. Scripture is also clear that we are to judge one another according to the commandments; Lawless churches do not honor this.
I became a widow 4 years ago my husband and I were unable to have children. It has been shocking to me how many people have come out of the woodwork wanting a variety of things from me to serve their desires or needs because I have no husband or children. And using scripture to validate their request. The most frequent one is concerning money to sell all that I have- my home and my possessions and give it to the poor, of course they are the poor that they are talking about. When I asked what they thought I should do if I became penniless their reply has been they have a shed in the backyard without any electricity or running water that I could live in or some more generous- a back bedroom I could live in. Of course I laughed at such an idea . Out of sarcasm I felt like answering them that would be too good for me, don't they have a dog run I can live in but of course as a Christian I did not respond that way. Money hasn't been the only issue, some of them have been about ways in which they can fill my day being their personal assistant taking care of responsibilities for them. Again the scripture be a servant to all. I am very grateful to the Holy Spirit for giving me an answer to these people, and that is - I will ask the Lord if this is something I should do or not. And I do ask the Lord, most of the time I hear no this is a yoke they are putting on you not something I am asking of you. Some of the time I am to serve and I do it willing but with healthy boundaries.
I truly enjoyed However, don't forget to mention.Women do that also and big time!!! ( huge lies 0r Manipulations [ Talk about delusional and making up things !! )
May I ask a question ❓ I was kinda under the impression that narcissists are actually either influenced if not out right possessed by demonic spirits. Is that correct? And if so, I also maybe lacking understanding kinda thought they wouldn't or couldn't even use Christs words. Could someone please help me with better understanding this..thank you. In Christ Jesus.
Have heard 1 and 2 repeatedly. Yet they will never read the scriptures that pertain to their own bad behavior - like drinking, fighting, lewdness, etc. After several years, I think it is finally time to go "no contact." They will never change. Thanks Kris. Just started watching your videos a day ago. They are the best.
Lol. I love this. I do know the Narcissist Twisted Version! and for Almost everyday of our almost 42 years together. My self-righteous christian husband (who by-the-way says preachers are wrong to devalue the older brother of the Prodigal son, because the older brother had a right to be angry - because the older brother has done everything right) would choose a Bible verse for our daily devotions and point his finger at my nose telling me how I am not up-to-standard on this and better improve. He would do this in front of our children. It took maybe 30 years before I put a stop to this in our daily Bible devotions. Yes, I know, I am a slow learner. But then I came from a narcissistic physically, verbally and emotionally abusive childhood home to just a verbally and emotionally abusive home. I thought I did better. My concern is how it has affected my three children.
Every time my parent used the honor your parents I'd use the don't nag your kids one and they never accepted it due to that meant they'd have to back off on their inappropriate demands.
I am a firm believer in playing by the rules of your opponents while never accepting their premises. You did the right thing here, I think- you rejected their premise that you must always "honor" them by doing everything they want you to do, while showing them a passage that effectively did the same thing to them. I'm not saying you yourself was trying to distort or twist the Bible for your own sake. I'm saying that it is fair game to do so in order to show their folly. Remember Proverbs 26:4-5. I hope all is well with you and yours.
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With respect to honoring your mother and father, the Bible also says not to provoke your children to anger. I had to point that out to my narcissistic birth mother. Needless to say, that did not go over very well.
My narcisist brother just to quote the comandment of honor your parents to make me give my time and money to my mom when i didnt have any, making me feel bad about not helping out, he just to always talk about family unity and he was the first one to throw you under the bus when things didnt go well in the family
Dna-dad, successful Grandiose Narc & Mum (MoMster), Malignant COVERT RELIGIOUS NARC, my only other (older) Sibling is the Golden Child Narc which has always bullied me along with his SUPERIOR COURT JUDGEMENTAL WIFE.
Yah, disgraced ministry leader Bill Gothard said that to my face when I questioned his ministry morality. I'll never forget that interaction, even 25 years later.
Every time you say "twisted scripture" in this video it reminds me of the band Twisted Sister....and I can't help but imagine my own twisted sister getting together with other twisted sisters and forming a band called "Twisted Scripture" lol :)))....Forgive me...I didn't get enough sleep last night and I get a bit slap happy when sleep deprived.
Be interesting to hear this narcism in church leaders because people who are trying to submit to authority get confused to the limit of this submission...
#3 is a big one for my narc husband. He is constantly throwing that one at me basically telling me that no matter what I am to submit to him and let him lead even though that has lead to all our money and savings being spent and our family nearly being homeless. But it’s all my fault because I am a worthless wife who won’t submit
@@KourtneyMEmmert You would be better served not to repeat his negative words, out loud or in your head. Instead, ask Jesus to heal your memories of those evil comments and replace them with Godly things. And you please pray for your husband, especially when he says things you know are untrue about you. Learn the Hail Mary if you don't already know it. She is our spiritual mother, given to us all as Jesus was dying on the cross for all our salvation. Ask her to give him the Grace to change his ways and you to have the continuing Graces of strength and patience while she works to soften his heart. Mary is a miracle worker ... my formerly verbally abusive alcoholic husband of over 30 years is making astounding changes! I had set aside my Cradle Catholic roots to be with him and endured decades of this type of abuses (and learned to dish out some pretty awful stuff myself in misguided self defense!) But I finally was given the Grace to stand up for myself and put God first. And started praying for his conversion ... a 54 Day Novena. Along about day 52, he suddenly announced that he thought we should have a statue of Mary beside the tiny pond in the middle of our circle driveway!! You have to understand how crazy that statement was ... we're old/junk car collectors in a rural area with no real lawn and certainly no statues. We have dogs and poultry and cars! But you better believe I wasted no time helping him find a statue and there she stands, a visual reminder of her spiritually watching over his progress!!! He had given up alcohol over a year before and truly is becoming a better person daily. He also was willing to Convalidate our civil marriage in the eyes of the Catholic Church. And a few months later, thanks to Father Staples (yes, Tim Staples brother) meeting with him privately for weekly for months to Catachise him, my husband came into the Catholic Church in May of 2023! The Lord has done great things for us and Holy is His name! Hail Mary, full of Grace The Lord is with thee Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus Holy Mary, mother of God Pray for us now and at the hour of our death Amen And thanks, blessed Mother, for taking my husband by the hand and leading him to your Son!!!
Most of the narcissists i have met have been women. Yet I see so many therapists etc. only talk as if it is a man that is the narcassist. We need more info on how FEMALE narcissists manipulate. Most women want attention and seem to be reluctant to talk about that subject.
Well most modern western societies are matriarchies now, so just look at how they treat their people and you'll start to see how female narcissists work.
The narcissist living amongst the 6 of us can quote the Bible, chapter and verse, says she is "saved" and quotes whatever passage she thinks will prove she is indeedcsaved and l, her most common target, am goingcto hell because l don't read the Bible. I actually had 3 bibles burn in a fire that burned down my house and even twistedvmy piano into a mess. Unfortunately for her, l think actions speak louder than words. My actions of generosity, caring about others wishes, and trying to fulfill their requests sounds more Christian than being able to recite the Bible if your narcissistic actons ignore the wishes of others by having to be right. I am comfortable with myself, and l wouldvNOT be comfortable in her skin. Period. Shevis going through a trying time, and tgecpoir me is getting repulsive when she decidedcl had chicken in my dinner and she said shevhad none and demanded l givevher my dinner. I said a decisive "NO"! She didn't take it well, and called the owner, crying. The owner told me to give her my dinner. I said "NO"! Had she politely said "l think you have more chicken than l do and l would like more, would you trade? I would have said sure. But l was ordered to givevher my dinner. I don't take orders from her, l know ahevis a paranoid, bellicose narcissist who has hit me in the past, despite the fact thatvl am 80 and she is 14 years younger than l am. She is still upset, and she will continue to be because l told her bluntly quite a while ago "l knowvwho and what you are, so leave me alone. Quote the Bible from memory to try and prove you are "saved", but l believe actions speak louder than words, and there is an inconsistency between your actions and your biblical quotes. I meant it. And whenbshebhas any stress, she says "l gavevitvup to God and He will handle it", she also becomes more bellicose, combative verbally and pgysically. I told her if shevhit me 1 more time, l was filing assault and battery charges. She cries to the owner. I have had it with that because she missed her calling. She is a terrific actress who lies out of both sides of her mouth at the same time. I am planning to be unavailable until she gets over tge current crisis.
People are using scripture, twisting it to suit their needs their wants. This is so good! In so many avenues of our life this happens, Narcs are everywhere! Once you see it, you can't unsee it. Literally surrounded. I'm just now starting to understand why Jesus will say depart from me I never knew you. I didn't understand how it could be possible. But never thought about it, that Satan tried to pull that with Jesus. Love these videos.
I find that narcissistic spouses also use #4 to beat you over the head with if you try to draw a boundary to protect yourself from their toxic family. Ex 1 - He told us about their 50th anniversary party 30 minutes before he was set to leave and asked us to come. Drop everything you have planned for the whole weekend and come on a moment's notice, because it's FAMILY and it's my father and mother and we have to honor them. Ignoring a boundary I'd already drawn around that relationship, and after a night out drinking with his buddies until 2 am leaving us no note and answering no one's texts, including his kids'. Ex 2 - His family participated in an attempt to use psychiatric authorities to bully me into doing what he wants. I drew a boundary saying that they are welcome back here only when they apologize for their part in it and commit to respect me as a person, as their grandchildren's mother, and any boundaries I set. Now...I don't know what he told them....he may have communicated something entirely different (probably has, truth is not one of his usual things). BUT, no go. I don't really expect an apology or a change, because these people can do no wrong in their own eyes (and as a corollary, I can do no right). However, he bangs me over the head all the time that I'm not honoring them. Well...goes both ways. And mine isn't blatant disrespect, it's a boundary. One they don't like. Anyhow...just thought I'd point out how else this scripture gets used.
My mom used the submit to each other verse on my dad all the time and never acknowledged the submit to your husband. She also isolated him using the man should leave his family upon marriage and keep only to her. Mind you these are not the proper scriptures but the versions she used. She also used reactive abuse to play the victim and then forgive us our trespasses. My grandfather told be that the devil will redefine words and means for his own means. His example was “Happy wife Happy life” The corrupt meaning is that it is a husbands job to make his wife happy. That is impossible as happiness is a choice. He told me that instead I should find a wife who was herself happy and that that would bring a happy life.
All I ask is that you be careful to direct narcissism at men. I'm still in the stages of recovery from an extremely professional narcissist woman. Emotional abuse and physical abuse is equal across the board if you can stand up and look at the many years of unbiased studies that show it goes both ways equally. Please pray to see the truth.
Oh my goodness! Yall, I've been with the Same Narcisse for 20 yrs! Like 15 yrs ago this damn man started in on me and so ofcourse he is going berserk, calls the police, so i go outside to wait on them. They arrive and one speaks to me outside and the other goes inside to talk to him. He comes back out whispers in his buddy's ear and then they tell me to turn around and put my hands behind my back!!!! Yep! He told them that I slapped his face!....I was outside the whole time when he was calling them! Yall he slapped his own face!!! ThebWrong side! Lol...I spent 4 days in there, 1st time I'd ever been! I called a mutual friend and he had already called all our couple friends that he had me arrested because I had gone crazy and was trying to kill him! I can't believe it took me 20 years to finally see and realize what the heck was I doing?? Lol...but now that he knows WhAT I finally know, he leaves town....I'm so so grateful to you dr and for fi ding this channel! I've been seeing a DV therapist for 2yrs...I put him in jail for 3 months 2yrs ago and he just now got off probation 3 weeks ago! I'm getting a restraining order Monday!! God bless
There’s a lot of people that make believe that they are genuine and believe in God and around to help humanity when all they’re out is to help themselves only. It’s very sad.
'Touch not God's anointed', and 'Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft'. I got beaten over the head with these growing up. And it wasn't just for my parents, but also people that my parents deemed as spiritual 'coverings' as well. Meanwhile I would hear my mother justify her favorite 'prophet's' latest adultery scandal or some prosperity gospel preacher's 4th Jet as no big deal. Meanwhile my failure to clean my room was 'ad the sin of witchcraft'. 🤨
"Touch not God's anointed." Man, I have heard so many "gab it and grab it" "ministers" use this to justify pretty much anything they do or say. I wonder if they have ever read Jesus's warnings in Matthew 7, where he will tell such people that he never knew them. Let's be sure we heed this warning ourselves. I hope you are well.
I got so sucked into my girlfriend's world that she was all I could think about. It got so bad I couldn't even pray period when I could finally see who she really is , I was quickly found in violation . She quickly attacked every aspect of my life including my religion
My kid told me, You need to carry my burdens. I didn't ask to be brought into this world. You need to forgive ( yet he never apologized ). That Bible ain't gonna help you. Hate the sin, not the sinner. Etcetcetcetc.... I now just pray from AFAR. Never ever will I take him back in my lufe.
Some people just don't get it. Sundays are usually terrible days. Hours sitting and watching preachers on TV or going to church only to come home and mistreat people.
my dad used scripture and said I need to honor him... ROFL!!! he hated God, it also says fathers do not raise up your children to exasperation...he was a wicked man who told me he won't be happy until I am being beaten every day in the gutter. he died a few years ago
The third verse can't be used by the narcissistic wife. She uses the one from 3 verses later to tell me I'm supposed to die for her, and she interprets that as she gets to be in charge because I'm "dead".
I am called crazy for expecting to see her just one holiday in 12 years and that, I need boundaries. She tells me anything I say she does not understand and makes no sense. Then proceeds to tell me what I meant about anything I have said and it is always the complete opposite of what I said or meant. It is usually to try and prove to my older daughter, I have said something against her. I isolate myself from everyone. Because, if I dare let my guard down and think she is being nice...oh my gosh! I pay, royally. Like being told, I didn't ask you about your Thanksgiving because I knew you wouldn't have any plans or dinner. My daughter was compassionate and loving and felt empathy before the situation with her boyfriend.
he's right on that one, but it also says his body is yours too. without full context here it's hard to know what your situation is. Neither of you have a biblical mandate to deny the other one intimacy unless you both agree to it for a time to devote yourselves to prayer and worship of God.
I think that scripture is for a couple who both love each other. The man who loves his wife would never demand sex. Evil ungodly men have been known to demand sex even when the wife has a torturing migraine headache. And he will enjoy making her suffer even more. Evil men will demand sex at the most inappropriate times. That is not love.
It’s time to stand up for yourself- because God and you say so. Be brave and be ready to face your fears. This is more than manipulation- now you know!
In addition, the same fake Christian husband types have even been known to ask for sex as soon as wife is dismissed from hospital after giving birth. Imagine if you had a major surgery, you come home and wife demands that you jackhammer that bad spot in the driveway. Hmmmm, love?
@marvthedog1972 suppose, her husband slaps her around? Suppose he is belittling and treating her badly? Before you answer, will the same answer apply to your mother and sister and daughter?
Endured this for 30 years. Never knew it was a mental condition. Always thought something was wrong with me. Now waking up to this new information and trying to heal my wounded soul. 🙏🏻
My goodness ... #3 too, "whats wrong with you submitting to your wife" I was told by this reverend. Even though she was blatantly refusing to submit - toxic mind games and passive agressively saying one thong but dont do it or dojng somerhing opposite on what was agreed.
There seems to be an odd blind spot regarding female narcissistic wives. There is far too little info out there and far too many men who, in their arrogance, assume that because the man is the leader that when his followers aren't following, he is the problem. Of course they forget that God is the ultimate leader and yet Israel failed to follow Him many a time....never once being his fault. Wives are as likely to be bad at submitting to their husbands as husbands are to be bad at loving their wives. Wives use their free will to choose to submit to their husbands and husbands sacrifice their own personal gain for the betterment of their family where necessary. Wives follow God ultimately, but God says to follow their husbands. So if a husband is not being ungodly, then wives are to submit. And yes, that does mean if their husband wants to paint the wall green and the wife blue, the wife accepts that the wall will be green! Because, who knows, maybe one day that husband will have to die to keep his wife and children alive and the green wall ensures his sacrifice didn't go to waste...who knows, the husband gets the final say (so long as he isn't choosing sin).
I'm so grateful that your video came up on my feeds. Most videos are all worldly based, and it's so refreshing to receive sound counsel based on God's Word. I can't thank you enough & pray that your reach goes far beyond what you had ever dreamed of. Blessings from Australia.
I grew up in church, and i rarely saw a wife submit to their husband. They all treated their husband like they are too stupid to know they are being disrespected.
Yes, I am a guy who has told my wife to submit to me and who has used the bible to do it. But I did it because she always wanted me to submit to her, and she never wanted to submit to me 😕. Not even a little 😕. She would love to tell me to love her just as Jesus loved the church, just to get her way with me 😕.
Wives who are disobedient to the Lord like to imagine that "submission" is mutual. But the relationship is that of Christ to the Church. Christ sacrificed Himself for the church, but He didn't submit his authority. The Church submits their entire will to Christ. It's not like you or I as a Christian gets to tell Jesus what to do! A submissive wife, as is biblically accurate, submits her will to her husband AND Christ. Meaning, she doesn't fight her husband's decisions. Sure, they have a discussion and she airs her concerns, but there's no bickering about it. Unless her husband is asking her to do something sinful (against God), she needs to accept it. If she doesn't like the arraignment of the authoritative household structure, then she shouldn't have gotten married and she should take her grievances up with God Himself as it is by His design that the husband is the head of the wife!
Heard that. “What are you always so offended and unforgiving”…. Abuse, manipulation and affairs as well as stealing form me they wonder why I’m offended?! I do forgive but I’m not fool enough to let them back blindly
my parents are narcs and use the phrase you have to respect thy mother and father. so they can say do anything they want regardless the consequences and not be accountable.
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Beware the false prophet.
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No
For the forgiveness part, I also would like to add that they view forgiveness as a freepass to keep up their mistreatment of you.
Forgiveness is an act of kindness towards self, my abusers can’t come back until they are ready to reconcile, reconciliation requires accountability for one’s own actions and that is something they’re not capable of doing because they don’t have a repentant heart, we are commanded to forgive not reconcile.
So so true! Mine too...i cant get thise wirds out his mouth fOR ANYTHING! thats really crazy! I @lakevahopps7120
Jordan Peterson said something along the lines of “You don’t have to forgive someone because they say sorry, you forgive someone when they repent of their actions and actually change”. But also it seems like most folks don’t have the guts to actually change
They typically believe the once saved always saved myth as well. License to commit all sin.
“Repentance is change of action”- Narcissists don’t understand this concept. If they’re seeking forgiveness, they should change their actions. If they’re not repenting, what’s there to forgive?
Now, we can forgive on our end, but we don’t have to forget. If they don’t repent; if they don’t change their actions, then we can hold our boundaries and set up new boundaries to protect ourselves.
God doesn’t require anyone to remain under oppression. It’s our God-given right to remove ourselves from oppression. And narcissistic abuse is one type of oppression.
Amen, Amen!!!! The narcissists accuse us of not loving but are the meanest people of all.
So true and so unfortunate.
My husband always tells me I don't know how to love neither how to be loved😊. The last time he said it to me I told him...yes, I don't know. Please teach me how
@@mayruthuganda1910 smart answre!
@@mayruthuganda1910this is almost word for word what mine says.
So true Whoever they can use to get what they want they will
They want you to forgive but they never admit that they did anything wrong. What, then, is there to forgive? Repentance is required.
@@sleeperno1215 and to recognize their actions and stop repeating repeatedly repeating…
BuT if there is no repentance, it must be on you solely to forgive them. The forgiveness they want won’t ever be reached anyhow, so you have to break off to the side, and learn what forgiveness truly looks like, & then do it…bc God forgave us.
They won’t ever repent, so your future can’t ride on what they do. It’s what they want anyhow, bc if you don’t actually forgive them, then God will hold you truly accountable. And to some extent, from my experience, I’ve learned that I have an enemy in my narcissist. He truly made me his enemy, and has treated me as such, like I’m a sibling rival. It’s sad and sick. But that’s why I say YOU have to control the forgiveness YOU give. ✌🏼🩶🇺🇸
My former husband and pastor always controlled me with the 'wives obey your husbands''. Even the elders said but God says 'love your wives as Christ loved the church!' but it was like talking to a wall.
They sure do love to ignore that other part of the verse 😅
@@myunknownland9272 ... My first husband was a pastor also and used this also. And used my faith against me all the time. He was definitely a wolf
My ex-husband would tell me I needed to submit to him and obey him anytime we disagreed about something. He said we wouldn’t have anything to argue about if I just obeyed him and submitted. He was so unhappy and did anything to try to take my joy!!! If he knew I loved something, he would withhold it. If I told him something he did hurt me, he would keep doing it. I was never hurt by anyone in my life more than him. I’d rather be single, celibate, alone and at peace my whole life than be with him!
The standard of Godly perfection can never be met, so not supporting your husband is a REJECTION of Christ unless he's a SINNER Wich there is no standard and all that she says is mostly true but if he's trying to live by God's word then what she says is Contrary to the Bible.
@@mrk4972 really he beat me in bed while I slept! He cheated with other women, he left me because I wouldn't undue his shoelaces when he came home from work, while
I struggled with two children under 18 months. He left me and has a 22 year old daughter to a woman he has never married. From being a pastor (fully qualified) to not believing in God or the devil. I'll trust in the Lord as I know I loved and obeyed him. But he was and is a psychopath as he also tried to poison me 8 weekends in row. God have mercy on you if you support this behaviour. Love your wife like Christ loves the church. You must be a monster yourself to support this!!!
They twist scripture for control.
Sounds like most American Charismatic Pastors. !🙄
Yes, yes, yes! I’m SO glad someone else has pointed out the last “twisted scripture,” the “Honor thy father and thy mother.” That is the most misused of them all. In fact, they may have the “honor thy father and mother part down” (or think they do), but they do not read the line that comes AFTER that verse, which is “Do not provoke thy children to anger.”
They twist the word “ honor” to mean “obey,” even fir their adult married children. John Bevere wrote a book called Honors Reward. He says, after much study on honor, he concluded it basically means “to show value.”
Giiirll! I inwardly crack up when people attempt to use this one against me and I mentally quote 'THAT ONE'.
😂😂😂😂😅😆😆
Also, the original reading states Obey ... "In the Lord".
Some verses omit it and the devils jump on it.
Yep describes my experience growing up and into adulthood...i got yelled at by my dad in my 30's that i wasn't honoring my father or mother every time I had an alternate thought, feeling, opinion, Likes or dislikes, or just tried to maintain my own boundaries and independence separate from their control. They just wanted 100% obedience and subservience, a robot. He'd tell me how disrespectful I was and not honoring them. Heaven forbid i ever said "no". That was blasphemy that unleashed wrath and punishment.
Honor them with what you give to them, not what you have to take from them ;)
Going on 27 years of Narc abuse. Two suicide attenpts (many years ago) 2 mental breakdowns, plathora of health issues and an awakening to the truth that almost broke me mentally, im climbing out of the madness. Scripture is the help and healing that is mending the mind mess that has been created. One day I pray to be free fully and thriving. Praying for each person who faces this horror, male or female. We all have endured hell on earth.
Praying for you earnestly..be encouraged your not alone in your battle. Not only is Jesus with you others are enduring similar trials..in Christ
I know exactly what you are going through, 12 years of deep darkness & Spiritual Negativity by my baby mother. I also know witchcraft is involved. God Awakened me with the darkness & brought me into his Marvelous Light & Salvation. He Chose me.
God bless you
@Daniel-lv6fl thank you truly thank you for the prayers and words of encouragement
@DivineIntervention777 praying for you, for us all who have endured this hell on earth
My ex used to leave notes all around the house for me to find which said "the truth shall set you free" as if he knew something I didnt or trying to imply that I had something to confess to him when in actual fact it turned out he had three other women he was sleeping with behind my back. Funny thing is when I found out this information the Truth actually did set me free, we dont even speak anymore and when I see him I cant even imagine why I was ever interested in the first place, Thankyou Jesus for Setting me free for you are the way the TRUTH and the life and I love you so much Lord Amen
Yes! Whatever they accuse you of, they are usually doing!
I had a similar situation
sorry, that does sound like you weren't listening.... men who F around like that are Angry - at you !!!
Sometimes what they say to you to manipulate you backfires on them. My ex used to constantly say I was selfish, a bad commutator, that I was illogical. He would blame all our arguments on my period.
Well, over time I became generous, good at communication, and very logical.
@@sherrydickie8459exactly
Truth n lies mixed together... Satan's favorite pastime and weapon.
That is so true...
Yeah, I've heard it said that 90% of what the devil tells you is true...so that he can deceive you with the remaining 10%!
"Scripture should be in love not a sledgehammer" 💯💯💯
TRUE!!!!!
I'm aware of a situation where the wife is the narcissist and the husband is the victim. And this was a military guy! I'm in prayer all the time for this family!!
Just met my estranged step daughter in law . She was abusive and some one stole my medication. She’s moving to the area. She wanted to camp in the driveway while she builds a house. Nooooo . Boundaries needed. Hod showed me she’s a theif , liar, and sadly she adopted a child to cure her empty nest syndrome. That child is ignored when she’s not showing her off.
@@rosalindr4975 so sad...
Prayers 🙏🏾
My son in law - my daughter is a narcissist and so was her father.
I think you're talking about me. I met my wife in the military she was military, too. Controlled me like an R/C car. I had a child's cell phone so she could monitor everything and would block my phone from calling her or anyone when she got upset.
When a narcissist tries to manipulate scripture for their benefit against me, I prayed about it. I found Isaiah 41:11-12.
That is their fate unless they repent, accept responsibility for their actions, and submit to the Almighty God.
Loved it. Thank you❤
I got Commandment 9 thrown at me when I went to some people at church for advice.
Rebuke Leviathan and Jezebel
@@NikkiGRocks4Ever also 13 🥰😇🥰
@@ashleyhuxley3422 Psalm 37 too
Of course when I was walking away from a narcissist I got the "and you call yourself a Christian " I turned smiled and said "judge not lest you be judged" she had a look of pure shock on her face as I turned and walked away.
I had a similar encounter with the one I gotta deal with, but their response was a sinister smirk followed by them saying "you're finally learning how this game is played."
@@flintwestwood3596 oof! That's way creepy.
@@ingridgallagher1029 Yeah, I wanted to use Morse code to tell them not to be like that - that is, Morse code using my fist on their face. I controlled myself though so they got nothing from me (grey stone I think the therapists call it).
Grey rock, actually@@flintwestwood3596
Cool video, My relationship of 5 years ended a month ago. The love of my life decided to leave me, I really love her so much I can’t stop thinking about her, I’ve tried my very best to get her back in my life, but to no avail, I’m frustrated, I don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts of her, but I can’t, I don’t know why I’m saying this here, I really miss her and just can’t stop thinking about her.
its difficult to let go of someone you love, i was in a similar situation, my relationship of 12 years ended, but i couldnt just let him go i did all i could to get him back, i had to seek the help of a spiritual counselor who helped me bring him back
Amazing, how did you get a spiritual counselor, and how do i reach her?
Her name is Shelly renee white , and she is a great spiritual counselor who can bring back your ex.
Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked her up now online. impressive
I'm sorry about what you're going through. Praying for peace & reconciliation. I sincerely hope for the best for each of you, regardless of what God's plan is for each of you. God Bless. Be the light that washes away the darkness. 💕🙏🏼😇
“Honor thy father and mother AND provoke not your child to wrath” Ephesians 6:2-4
Hello?
When my marc ex wife got exposed for having a three year affair she told me "you can't judge me because you're a sinner too."
Same.
Respond back to her, “Takes one to know one.” The difference is which sinners have repented and surrendered to Christ Jesus?
Also, Jesus tells believers to judge among believers and test the spirits. We absolutely are taught and commanded to deal with sin within the Church(Body of Believers). How else can one be cast out of the Church if they refuse to repent? This is a lie from Satan that silences many believers. We are not to condemn another but we most certainly should be aware of what spirit is operating in them. Some will be restored to the Lord or else, at least, they are no longer being allowed into fellowship to spread their evil. A little leaven spoils the loaf.
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My husband always came with biblical advice to me to shut me up. Thanks to knowing Jesus and the scripture I had good arguments I could stand against his manipulations. But he never would have let me convince him from anything that would have lead in repentence. No way! Instead he ghosted me every time he ran out of arguments. While I waited for him to return for talking about our issues and prayed for guidance and wisdom, he came back saying nothing pretending nothing had happened. It is useless discussing. You can't reach out to their twisted mind. You can't encounter a sick attitude in a healthy way of discussion. Just God can convince and heal them. Everything else is throwing pearls to the pigs. Shake the dust of the feet and leave the narcissist up to God.
This is the crazy making they do!
Mark Drischoll is my favorite of all the big online preachers. Mark said that a narcasist uses scripture to convict you, but never themselves. I agree 100% with his statement. My deceased mother in law was an absolute narcky, and every time my wife and I would visit her mother, she always had a list of the peoples who had wronged her in the last week or so. She never looked inwards to herself, no personal analaysis at all.
His past mistakes that needed to be left in the past since he didn't like talking about them can be as far back as 1 minute..."it is in the past, forget about it already!"
"Leave and cleave" was used repeatedly by my soon to be ex-wife to try to convince me that I was commanded to cut off all ties to my family and previous relationships. It was a pathetic attempt to isolate me.
In Mark 3: 35 Jesus says “ for whoever does the will of God is my brother, sister, and mother”. In Mathew 10:36 Jesus states “ a man’s enemies will be members of his own household”. Narcissists, who are people of the lie and creatures of chaos, do Satan’s bidding in order to keep others from their God given destiny by engineering perpetual turmoil. Focus on Jesus and not on the storm and pray like your life depends on it because it does. God absolutely will carry you through and bring you out from under their controlling influence and the narcissist will become ensnared in the traps they set out for others. Have faith, do not despair, believe and it will be done, for we worship a mighty and just God who detests evil. Jeremiah 29:11 “For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to give you hope and a future”.
Thank you ❤️
So good. And here's yet another scripture that needs to be heeded. Thou shalt not have any other gods before Me. Narcissist demand worship. They like their father the enemy, want/demand worship. They want to enslave people.. to bow down to them. For the Christian, this is Idol worship. Idolatry. They're aligned with their father like you say. Continuing to entertain the Narcissists will definitely keep one from completing their God appointed assignment on the earth which is the enemy's goal.
Amen.
I think that is the bible my mother reads. She has said all of those twisted scriptures to me many times. Just two weeks ago she texts me saying God calls us to forgive... and forget...I have been struggling on how to honor her. I don't like her. she is evil and downright mean to me! she cuts off communication with me to punish me, I'm tired of it... I am 60 years old and still a sad hurt child... I am a Christian, I just need to focus on the Lord and stay in His word daily... Sometimes I just get stuck in a cloud of depression. Thank you, I certainly needed to hear this today... The twisted bible verses were spot on.
Be like the Bereians. Always double check in your own Bible what she says and seeks solace in Jesus not a human.
Cheryl read Psalm 50:16-21 that's the type of persons God HATES.
Psalms 27 I think... I had fainted unless I had believed...
Forgive... from a distance. Turn your face away from her to Jesus and the Father, who love you best!
"A fool in error is always fast to quote Scriptures".
Satan knows the word too
Narcissist will judge you harshly for no reason but will say that you accuse them...
Every. Single. Time. 😢
Thank you for bringing up “Honour your Mother & Father”. I moved away from my parents with my husband and kids at 38 years of age. I was constantly told I’m not honouring and that I was selfish for moving away. I needed this 🩷
You got away!!!
🙏🏼🙏🏼 know the Truth to detect the lies.
John 8:32. You will know the truth. The truth will make you free.
But being able to detect the lies is only 1/2 of the battle. The other 1/2 is understanding how to respond to these lies. In this, the most effective scripture is “Answer not a fool, according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool, according to his folly lest he be wise in his own eyes.” Prov 26:4-5
It takes great discernment to be able to do this effectively, and to know when to apply the answering of the fool in this case, the narcissist, and when not to answer the narcissist in their continuous and never ending lies.
So true🙏🙏
No one expects to discover they were deceived into a marriage by a wolf disguised in sheep's clothing. To discover that is what has in fact occurred, is incredibly traumatising on so many levels. Unfortunately, there are some denominations that totally rely on these exact twists of scripture, in order to keep women and children in bondage to manipulative abusers, because it suits those in power within those very churches to keep it that way. THANK YOU for posting this video.
So true.
Oh my goodness! He used number 3 every day! Claiming that it was written in that specific order so that the man cannot honour the woman until she submits to him. She must submit first before he will show her respect or honour! This in conjunction with women being the weaker/lesser vessel, the clone, that through which sin entered the world. That being said, I did submit and he still didn't respect me. So glad to be out of that! Thank you so much for this video, I wasn't crazy!
Bless you sister. Women aren't clones, we literally were taken out of Adam's body-"So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." (Genesis 1:27). Also, "So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
The man said,
“This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called ‘woman,’
for she was taken out of man.”
(Genesis 2:21-23).
Another thing, sin entered the world through one MAN, Adam, not a woman. Eve was deceived but Adam commited high Treason against The Lord-"Because of this, just as sin entered into the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death passed to all men, because all sinned." ( Roman's 5:12).
Remember, we are all supposed to be ONE in Christ Jesus, where there are no males that are better than women." There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." (Galatians 3:28). Some men want to use your gender against you (which is an offense to the God who made you) and
submit to them the way they perceive what submit means from their spirit of control lense. Our first priority is to submit to God before man, even ones own husband. 🙏
Twisting the Bible is simply put a person can have a one sided relationship so they can have the best of both worlds. Example They use forgiveness mercy grace love and compassion from the Bible to avoid consequences and do not get what they deserve.
My golden child narcissist sister does this, she will throw the forgiveness quote at me to try to deflect her accountability for her wicked actions
This tactic is old as the devil 😂
The first documented Narcissist.
They also want to lead you into sin. My ex told me he wanted to be the kind of husband that if he came home and caught me in bed with another man, he'd still want to stay together. I was so shocked and disgusted.
That's a hallmark of the personality of an unclean spirit. Filthy. That's a part of how unclean spirits in the Narcissist moves. Always Always some aspect of sexual impurity however it manifest. Perversion of God's design for s#x / sexuality.
That's bc he wanted you to give him the permission back so he could do it!!
How terrible
I thought it was only my soon-to-be ex who said this. "If I come home and find you in bed with another man, I would close the door, and hope he satisfied you." What?!?!? He said it with a complete straight face and honest tone. Didn't not hear himself? What twisted thinking! He was trying to give me permission to cheat so he would feel better about it himself.
@@sukru6797 they are sick in the head!
I filed for legal separation because I am trying to leave without harm. My abusive husband bashes me with the Bible verse, “God hates divorce.” He can’t stand that I refuse to backdown from my decision to leave him.
He also hates abuse. He hates the actions that lead to divorce.
Paul’s epistles list numerous acceptable reasons for divorce. If a believer is engaged in ongoing unrepentant sin of any kind then you may treat them as an unbeliever. If you married to an unbeliever you are allowed to divorce them and remarry. Therefore, if your spouse is engaged in ongoing unrepentant sin against you then you can treat them like an unbeliever. You can divorce them and, if you choose, remarry.
“God hates divorce.” Is not the only relevant scripture.
@@Dagnymarie1I had some in laws say this to me. And I said God hates liars abusers manipulators infidels...and all of a sudden, I heard so you see we have all sinned😂....
I said wow... no wonder their brother isnt moved by my pains. They just wanted me to go back to his house.
After the scripure thing wasnt working (thank God for Kris and counselling), it got to mix of culture and scripture also- honour elders we have begged you over and over. 😳
Then I am asked, whether I even bother about how he is feeding..I was shocked , my mental.gealth that almost got me to a dangerous point was less important... They need me to go care for his sexual appetite ( am I a prostitute 😢)
@@patienceoyeleye5736 Leslie Vernick is a great resources for Christians in destructive relationships. (Anyone could benefit from her info but she addresses what the Bible really says)
@@patienceoyeleye5736 I’m so sorry.
“Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. Honor thy father and mother (which is the first commandment with promise), that it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.”
… failing to scroll down to the next verse which states: “PARENTS PROVOKE NOT YOUR CHILDREN TO WRATH” …
the hypocrisy is real!
@@franco2b145 , yes, yes, yes, yes!!!
Thank you
Yeah I called out my mom saying that you also should not provoke me to anger according to the Bible and then instead of accepting that mistake she proudly screamed at me and accused me of calling her S*!**. She was basically projecting herself to me. And my dad is the same thing. I forgive them but I don’t live with them anymore.
Yes two way street
Except when your parents wants you to lie. That's not grounds to obey
my ex used to say "for the marriage to work, one should always put the other person first", meaning, the other person was always him
We're supposed to forgive them just so they can feel better about themselves and then they can do it all over again and then lay all the blame on us and pount out and twist every single thing from our past since childhood.
This 100000% grace grace grace. Turn the other cheek a million times and let them do it again and again and again.
When you get sick and tired of being sick and tired. It's time to walk far away and stay away
FANTASTIC Insight and assessment of scripture violations, Kris Reece. You’ve nailed my parents. Thank you.
Dito. You nailed my husband.
Understanding Narcissism
A narcissist lives in a fantasy world where he is a king in his court of slaves. He is superior and in control of them. So, any nonsubmission, disobedience, inattention, opposition, criticism, competition, defeat, disrespect, or even trying to be an equal is not tolerated and he will react with “narcissistic rage”.
The Narcissist’s true self is broken and disgusting, and he sees this. This causes him intolerable shame and pain when he thinks of it or if others recognize it. This makes him chronically miserable, and envious of other “normal” people. This second false self of a king is a fake one he invented to mask the true one and stop the pain and shame. Its characteristics are the opposite of what he sees in his true self. It is omnipotent, great, all-knowing, highly successful, beautiful, unique, infallible, enviable, indispensable to others, in control, and charming. This second self is so fragile because it is fake. And he is willing to do anything even murder to hide the true self and show the other false one.
Narcissistic supply is the continuous supply he needs from people to prop up this fake image and numb his pain. He needs it to prove to himself and to others that this second false self is real and to hide the true one. Every situation for him is a struggle to get this supply.
Having a slave provides him with narcissistic supply. It is in his own interest that you become isolated, weak, afraid, dependent, inferior, broken, and a failure so that you conform to the role of a slave to the king. So, he studies you and then manipulates you to trap and destroy you to conform to that role. To do so he uses isolation, intimidation, gas lighting, Scapegoating, idealization (love bombing)/devaluation/discard cycles, criticism, projection, displacement, physical abuse, humiliation, lying, insults, judging, boundary violation, bragging, smearing, triangulation or giving you the silent treatment. In his eyes you are not a human with feelings, dignity and rights; you are just a source of supply. He lacks any empathy towards you.
Imagine a hot air balloon on which an image of a king is drawn with an ugly deformed monkey hiding inside the balloon. It needs continuous inflation, which your job in life is to provide, or what’s inside would be seen.
Wow, great explanation.
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EXCELLENT content Kris!! Thank you so much. They truly have an alternate reality. They are empty vessels.
Alternate Reality!
Thanks for watching !
I had this. She told me, “I have the Holy Spirit, and if you contradict me, you will go to hell.”
and I had to obey everything she said.
Hey Kris, I have a question. How do you stop having negative thoughts throughout the day about how your parents have wronged you. Are there any strategies that you use to win over these negative thoughts.
We forgive but only God can forget. So we forgive “70x 7”
Hi Julianna, I use 2 Corinthians 10: 5, when I have angry thoughts about someone: we take every thought to make it obedient to Christ. And I repeat to myself I have forgiven this person. The devil will try to bring these thoughts to you. To forgive doesn't means to restore relationships. I hope this will help you.
This really good. Thanks, Kris for allowing God to continue to use you. Many blessings and God’s protection to you
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I can relate to these, but the one my parents used on me to keep me in a very bad place was “rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft “. Being rebellious was the last thing I wanted to do, so they were able to get me to do anything for them.
The verses pertaining to forgiveness in the Bible have a caveat everyone seems to miss: the offender MUST REPENT first!!!!! IF the offender does not repent of their offense against you, then you owe them NO forgiveness. Universal blanket forgiveness is not even offered by God. Scripture is also clear that we are to judge one another according to the commandments; Lawless churches do not honor this.
I became a widow 4 years ago my husband and I were unable to have children. It has been shocking to me how many people have come out of the woodwork wanting a variety of things from me to serve their desires or needs because I have no husband or children. And using scripture to validate their request. The most frequent one is concerning money to sell all that I have- my home and my possessions and give it to the poor, of course they are the poor that they are talking about. When I asked what they thought I should do if I became penniless their reply has been they have a shed in the backyard without any electricity or running water that I could live in or some more generous- a back bedroom I could live in. Of course I laughed at such an idea . Out of sarcasm I felt like answering them that would be too good for me, don't they have a dog run I can live in but of course as a Christian I did not respond that way. Money hasn't been the only issue, some of them have been about ways in which they can fill my day being their personal assistant taking care of responsibilities for them. Again the scripture be a servant to all. I am very grateful to the Holy Spirit for giving me an answer to these people, and that is - I will ask the Lord if this is something I should do or not. And I do ask the Lord, most of the time I hear no this is a yoke they are putting on you not something I am asking of you. Some of the time I am to serve and I do it willing but with healthy boundaries.
I truly enjoyed However, don't forget to mention.Women do that also and big time!!! ( huge lies 0r Manipulations [ Talk about delusional and making up things !! )
May I ask a question ❓ I was kinda under the impression that narcissists are actually either influenced if not out right possessed by demonic spirits. Is that correct? And if so, I also maybe lacking understanding kinda thought they wouldn't or couldn't even use Christs words. Could someone please help me with better understanding this..thank you. In Christ Jesus.
Have heard 1 and 2 repeatedly. Yet they will never read the scriptures that pertain to their own bad behavior - like drinking, fighting, lewdness, etc. After several years, I think it is finally time to go "no contact." They will never change. Thanks Kris. Just started watching your videos a day ago. They are the best.
Lol. I love this. I do know the Narcissist Twisted Version! and for Almost everyday of our almost 42 years together. My self-righteous christian husband (who by-the-way says preachers are wrong to devalue the older brother of the Prodigal son, because the older brother had a right to be angry - because the older brother has done everything right) would choose a Bible verse for our daily devotions and point his finger at my nose telling me how I am not up-to-standard on this and better improve. He would do this in front of our children. It took maybe 30 years before I put a stop to this in our daily Bible devotions. Yes, I know, I am a slow learner. But then I came from a narcissistic physically, verbally and emotionally abusive childhood home to just a verbally and emotionally abusive home. I thought I did better. My concern is how it has affected my three children.
Every time my parent used the honor your parents I'd use the don't nag your kids one and they never accepted it due to that meant they'd have to back off on their inappropriate demands.
I am a firm believer in playing by the rules of your opponents while never accepting their premises. You did the right thing here, I think- you rejected their premise that you must always "honor" them by doing everything they want you to do, while showing them a passage that effectively did the same thing to them.
I'm not saying you yourself was trying to distort or twist the Bible for your own sake. I'm saying that it is fair game to do so in order to show their folly. Remember Proverbs 26:4-5.
I hope all is well with you and yours.
Why do victims of narcissistic abuse defend and look like narcissists too?
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With respect to honoring your mother and father, the Bible also says not to provoke your children to anger. I had to point that out to my narcissistic birth mother. Needless to say, that did not go over very well.
My narcisist brother just to quote the comandment of honor your parents to make me give my time and money to my mom when i didnt have any, making me feel bad about not helping out, he just to always talk about family unity and he was the first one to throw you under the bus when things didnt go well in the family
Dna-dad, successful Grandiose Narc & Mum (MoMster), Malignant COVERT RELIGIOUS NARC, my only other (older) Sibling is the Golden Child Narc which has always bullied me along with his SUPERIOR COURT JUDGEMENTAL WIFE.
That is defenitely a hard fate!
The one time he said he was as sorry.., it was soon over and back to his old self. Twisted manipulation. And it was so distorted. To serve him!
I had parents like narcissists. Both never cared but themselves and tried to make me feel bad for stuff thier bad behavior.
What about "touch not my anointed one"? That one is commonly used by narcissists.
Yah, disgraced ministry leader Bill Gothard said that to my face when I questioned his ministry morality. I'll never forget that interaction, even 25 years later.
Every time you say "twisted scripture" in this video it reminds me of the band Twisted Sister....and I can't help but imagine my own twisted sister getting together with other twisted sisters and forming a band called "Twisted Scripture" lol :)))....Forgive me...I didn't get enough sleep last night and I get a bit slap happy when sleep deprived.
My ex told me “I’m the man and I’ll tell you what is a sin and what’s not a sin”.
You only need to follow those who are obedient to God.
Whenever I tried to stand up for myself, I was given Proverbs 12:1
Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but whoever hates correction is stupid.
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Be interesting to hear this narcism in church leaders because people who are trying to submit to authority get confused to the limit of this submission...
#3 is a big one for my narc husband. He is constantly throwing that one at me basically telling me that no matter what I am to submit to him and let him lead even though that has lead to all our money and savings being spent and our family nearly being homeless. But it’s all my fault because I am a worthless wife who won’t submit
@@KourtneyMEmmert You would be better served not to repeat his negative words, out loud or in your head. Instead, ask Jesus to heal your memories of those evil comments and replace them with Godly things. And you please pray for your husband, especially when he says things you know are untrue about you. Learn the Hail Mary if you don't already know it. She is our spiritual mother, given to us all as Jesus was dying on the cross for all our salvation. Ask her to give him the Grace to change his ways and you to have the continuing Graces of strength and patience while she works to soften his heart. Mary is a miracle worker ... my formerly verbally abusive alcoholic husband of over 30 years is making astounding changes! I had set aside my Cradle Catholic roots to be with him and endured decades of this type of abuses (and learned to dish out some pretty awful stuff myself in misguided self defense!) But I finally was given the Grace to stand up for myself and put God first. And started praying for his conversion ... a 54 Day Novena. Along about day 52, he suddenly announced that he thought we should have a statue of Mary beside the tiny pond in the middle of our circle driveway!! You have to understand how crazy that statement was ... we're old/junk car collectors in a rural area with no real lawn and certainly no statues. We have dogs and poultry and cars! But you better believe I wasted no time helping him find a statue and there she stands, a visual reminder of her spiritually watching over his progress!!! He had given up alcohol over a year before and truly is becoming a better person daily. He also was willing to Convalidate our civil marriage in the eyes of the Catholic Church. And a few months later, thanks to Father Staples (yes, Tim Staples brother) meeting with him privately for weekly for months to Catachise him, my husband came into the Catholic Church in May of 2023! The Lord has done great things for us and Holy is His name!
Hail Mary, full of Grace
The Lord is with thee
Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus
Holy Mary, mother of God
Pray for us now and at the hour of our death
Amen
And thanks, blessed Mother, for taking my husband by the hand and leading him to your Son!!!
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
- 1 Timothy 5:8
Most of the narcissists i have met have been women. Yet I see so many therapists etc. only talk as if it is a man that is the narcassist. We need more info on how FEMALE narcissists manipulate. Most women want attention and seem to be reluctant to talk about that subject.
Well most modern western societies are matriarchies now, so just look at how they treat their people and you'll start to see how female narcissists work.
The narcissist living amongst the 6 of us can quote the Bible, chapter and verse, says she is "saved" and quotes whatever passage she thinks will prove she is indeedcsaved and l, her most common target, am goingcto hell because l don't read the Bible. I actually had 3 bibles burn in a fire that burned down my house and even twistedvmy piano into a mess. Unfortunately for her, l think actions speak louder than words. My actions of generosity, caring about others wishes, and trying to fulfill their requests sounds more Christian than being able to recite the Bible if your narcissistic actons ignore the wishes of others by having to be right. I am comfortable with myself, and l wouldvNOT be comfortable in her skin. Period. Shevis going through a trying time, and tgecpoir me is getting repulsive when she decidedcl had chicken in my dinner and she said shevhad none and demanded l givevher my dinner. I said a decisive "NO"! She didn't take it well, and called the owner, crying. The owner told me to give her my dinner. I said "NO"! Had she politely said "l think you have more chicken than l do and l would like more, would you trade? I would have said sure. But l was ordered to givevher my dinner. I don't take orders from her, l know ahevis a paranoid, bellicose narcissist who has hit me in the past, despite the fact thatvl am 80 and she is 14 years younger than l am. She is still upset, and she will continue to be because l told her bluntly quite a while ago "l knowvwho and what you are, so leave me alone. Quote the Bible from memory to try and prove you are "saved", but l believe actions speak louder than words, and there is an inconsistency between your actions and your biblical quotes. I meant it. And whenbshebhas any stress, she says "l gavevitvup to God and He will handle it", she also becomes more bellicose, combative verbally and pgysically. I told her if shevhit me 1 more time, l was filing assault and battery charges. She cries to the owner. I have had it with that because she missed her calling. She is a terrific actress who lies out of both sides of her mouth at the same time. I am planning to be unavailable until she gets over tge current crisis.
People are using scripture, twisting it to suit their needs their wants. This is so good! In so many avenues of our life this happens, Narcs are everywhere! Once you see it, you can't unsee it. Literally surrounded. I'm just now starting to understand why Jesus will say depart from me I never knew you. I didn't understand how it could be possible. But never thought about it, that Satan tried to pull that with Jesus.
Love these videos.
Great video! I call it "Dodge Bible" like the game "Dodge Ball". Catching and throwing the ball/bible verses at one another..
I find that narcissistic spouses also use #4 to beat you over the head with if you try to draw a boundary to protect yourself from their toxic family.
Ex 1 - He told us about their 50th anniversary party 30 minutes before he was set to leave and asked us to come. Drop everything you have planned for the whole weekend and come on a moment's notice, because it's FAMILY and it's my father and mother and we have to honor them. Ignoring a boundary I'd already drawn around that relationship, and after a night out drinking with his buddies until 2 am leaving us no note and answering no one's texts, including his kids'.
Ex 2 - His family participated in an attempt to use psychiatric authorities to bully me into doing what he wants. I drew a boundary saying that they are welcome back here only when they apologize for their part in it and commit to respect me as a person, as their grandchildren's mother, and any boundaries I set. Now...I don't know what he told them....he may have communicated something entirely different (probably has, truth is not one of his usual things). BUT, no go. I don't really expect an apology or a change, because these people can do no wrong in their own eyes (and as a corollary, I can do no right). However, he bangs me over the head all the time that I'm not honoring them. Well...goes both ways. And mine isn't blatant disrespect, it's a boundary. One they don't like.
Anyhow...just thought I'd point out how else this scripture gets used.
My mom used the submit to each other verse on my dad all the time and never acknowledged the submit to your husband. She also isolated him using the man should leave his family upon marriage and keep only to her. Mind you these are not the proper scriptures but the versions she used. She also used reactive abuse to play the victim and then forgive us our trespasses.
My grandfather told be that the devil will redefine words and means for his own means.
His example was “Happy wife Happy life”
The corrupt meaning is that it is a husbands job to make his wife happy. That is impossible as happiness is a choice. He told me that instead I should find a wife who was herself happy and that that would bring a happy life.
All I ask is that you be careful to direct narcissism at men. I'm still in the stages of recovery from an extremely professional narcissist woman. Emotional abuse and physical abuse is equal across the board if you can stand up and look at the many years of unbiased studies that show it goes both ways equally. Please pray to see the truth.
Oh my goodness! Yall, I've been with the Same Narcisse for 20 yrs! Like 15 yrs ago this damn man started in on me and so ofcourse he is going berserk, calls the police, so i go outside to wait on them. They arrive and one speaks to me outside and the other goes inside to talk to him. He comes back out whispers in his buddy's ear and then they tell me to turn around and put my hands behind my back!!!! Yep! He told them that I slapped his face!....I was outside the whole time when he was calling them! Yall he slapped his own face!!! ThebWrong side! Lol...I spent 4 days in there, 1st time I'd ever been! I called a mutual friend and he had already called all our couple friends that he had me arrested because I had gone crazy and was trying to kill him! I can't believe it took me 20 years to finally see and realize what the heck was I doing?? Lol...but now that he knows WhAT I finally know, he leaves town....I'm so so grateful to you dr and for fi ding this channel! I've been seeing a DV therapist for 2yrs...I put him in jail for 3 months 2yrs ago and he just now got off probation 3 weeks ago! I'm getting a restraining order Monday!! God bless
There’s a lot of people that make believe that they are genuine and believe in God and around to help humanity when all they’re out is to help themselves only. It’s very sad.
Forgive from a distance.
my mother !!! ..She has my son now 😢
Amen!!!!! Just like saying Jesus was here to love and bring peace and acceptance. He came as a sword.
'Touch not God's anointed', and 'Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft'. I got beaten over the head with these growing up. And it wasn't just for my parents, but also people that my parents deemed as spiritual 'coverings' as well. Meanwhile I would hear my mother justify her favorite 'prophet's' latest adultery scandal or some prosperity gospel preacher's 4th Jet as no big deal. Meanwhile my failure to clean my room was 'ad the sin of witchcraft'. 🤨
"Touch not God's anointed." Man, I have heard so many "gab it and grab it" "ministers" use this to justify pretty much anything they do or say. I wonder if they have ever read Jesus's warnings in Matthew 7, where he will tell such people that he never knew them.
Let's be sure we heed this warning ourselves.
I hope you are well.
I got so sucked into my girlfriend's world that she was all I could think about. It got so bad I couldn't even pray period when I could finally see who she really is , I was quickly found in violation . She quickly attacked every aspect of my life including my religion
My kid told me,
You need to carry my burdens.
I didn't ask to be brought into this world.
You need to forgive ( yet he never apologized ).
That Bible ain't gonna help you.
Hate the sin, not the sinner.
Etcetcetcetc....
I now just pray from AFAR.
Never ever will I take him back in my lufe.
The one last night was
"Do not Judge"
The other day is was "forgive".
You are describing my phony Christian narc housemate to a T!
When Satan tried to tempt Jesus, he used scripture.
What about blaming the devil when something is not going their way
The devil doesn’t want me to…
The devil is trying to…
Some people just don't get it. Sundays are usually terrible days. Hours sitting and watching preachers on TV or going to church only to come home and mistreat people.
my dad used scripture and said I need to honor him... ROFL!!! he hated God, it also says fathers do not raise up your children to exasperation...he was a wicked man who told me he won't be happy until I am being beaten every day in the gutter. he died a few years ago
The third verse can't be used by the narcissistic wife. She uses the one from 3 verses later to tell me I'm supposed to die for her, and she interprets that as she gets to be in charge because I'm "dead".
If you want to find a narcissist, look no further than an alcoholic or a pastor.
My husband isn’t abusive. He drinks daily. He was in combat.
Joseph Prince Ministries always says ya take the "text" out the "context" you're left with a "con!"
I am called crazy for expecting to see her just one holiday in 12 years and that, I need boundaries. She tells me anything I say she does not understand and makes no sense. Then proceeds to tell me what I meant about anything I have said and it is always the complete opposite of what I said or meant. It is usually to try and prove to my older daughter, I have said something against her. I isolate myself from everyone. Because, if I dare let my guard down and think she is being nice...oh my gosh! I pay, royally. Like being told, I didn't ask you about your Thanksgiving because I knew you wouldn't have any plans or dinner. My daughter was compassionate and loving and felt empathy before the situation with her boyfriend.
Oh yes. My sex-on-demand husband says I have no right to ever say no for any reason because the Bible says My body is HIS.
he's right on that one, but it also says his body is yours too. without full context here it's hard to know what your situation is. Neither of you have a biblical mandate to deny the other one intimacy unless you both agree to it for a time to devote yourselves to prayer and worship of God.
I think that scripture is for a couple who both love each other. The man who loves his wife would never demand sex. Evil ungodly men have been known to demand sex even when the wife has a torturing migraine headache. And he will enjoy making her suffer even more. Evil men will demand sex at the most inappropriate times. That is not love.
It’s time to stand up for yourself- because God and you say so. Be brave and be ready to face your fears. This is more than manipulation- now you know!
In addition, the same fake Christian husband types have even been known to ask for sex as soon as wife is dismissed from hospital after giving birth. Imagine if you had a major surgery, you come home and wife demands that you jackhammer that bad spot in the driveway. Hmmmm, love?
@marvthedog1972 suppose, her husband slaps her around? Suppose he is belittling and treating her badly?
Before you answer, will the same answer apply to your mother and sister and daughter?
Endured this for 30 years. Never knew it was a mental condition. Always thought something was wrong with me. Now waking up to this new information and trying to heal my wounded soul. 🙏🏻
1st Corinthians 5 is seriously heavy duty.
My goodness ... #3 too, "whats wrong with you submitting to your wife" I was told by this reverend. Even though she was blatantly refusing to submit - toxic mind games and passive agressively saying one thong but dont do it or dojng somerhing opposite on what was agreed.
There seems to be an odd blind spot regarding female narcissistic wives. There is far too little info out there and far too many men who, in their arrogance, assume that because the man is the leader that when his followers aren't following, he is the problem.
Of course they forget that God is the ultimate leader and yet Israel failed to follow Him many a time....never once being his fault. Wives are as likely to be bad at submitting to their husbands as husbands are to be bad at loving their wives.
Wives use their free will to choose to submit to their husbands and husbands sacrifice their own personal gain for the betterment of their family where necessary. Wives follow God ultimately, but God says to follow their husbands. So if a husband is not being ungodly, then wives are to submit. And yes, that does mean if their husband wants to paint the wall green and the wife blue, the wife accepts that the wall will be green!
Because, who knows, maybe one day that husband will have to die to keep his wife and children alive and the green wall ensures his sacrifice didn't go to waste...who knows, the husband gets the final say (so long as he isn't choosing sin).
I'm so grateful that your video came up on my feeds. Most videos are all worldly based, and it's so refreshing to receive sound counsel based on God's Word. I can't thank you enough & pray that your reach goes far beyond what you had ever dreamed of. Blessings from Australia.
I grew up in church, and i rarely saw a wife submit to their husband. They all treated their husband like they are too stupid to know they are being disrespected.
Respect is needed.
To submit is to give.
Wives give respect to their husbands.
Men of honor respect women.
Husband love your wife.
Yes, I am a guy who has told my wife to submit to me and who has used the bible to do it.
But I did it because she always wanted me to submit to her, and she never wanted to submit to me 😕.
Not even a little 😕.
She would love to tell me to love her just as Jesus loved the church, just to get her way with me 😕.
Wives who are disobedient to the Lord like to imagine that "submission" is mutual. But the relationship is that of Christ to the Church.
Christ sacrificed Himself for the church, but He didn't submit his authority. The Church submits their entire will to Christ. It's not like you or I as a Christian gets to tell Jesus what to do!
A submissive wife, as is biblically accurate, submits her will to her husband AND Christ. Meaning, she doesn't fight her husband's decisions. Sure, they have a discussion and she airs her concerns, but there's no bickering about it. Unless her husband is asking her to do something sinful (against God), she needs to accept it. If she doesn't like the arraignment of the authoritative household structure, then she shouldn't have gotten married and she should take her grievances up with God Himself as it is by His design that the husband is the head of the wife!
Sometime they say you have “the spirit of offense”.
Heard that. “What are you always so offended and unforgiving”…. Abuse, manipulation and affairs as well as stealing form me they wonder why I’m offended?! I do forgive but I’m not fool enough to let them back blindly
Granted! So how does a female narcissist use Ephesians 5:25, what I deduced is a male narcissist using same. Just saying though!
my parents are narcs and use the phrase you have to respect thy mother and father. so they can say do anything they want regardless the consequences and not be accountable.
Thank you for this, Kris!!!!!!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 This was an absolute blessing, and it gave me so much more assurance. May God continue to bless you and your ministry!!!! Keep building up the Kingdom Of God!! ⚒️⚔️🗡🛡📖🙏🏾🙏🏾✨️✨️
Sad but true.
The scripture that was used very often by a Christian boss is slaves submit to your master, being a pastor you have to submit us