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Why Tory Has Changed - Character Analysis/Theory
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- "There's a difference between no honor and no mercy." Tory has certainly had an interesting arc this season, but what's in store for the future? This is Why Tory Has Changed. Let's talk about her rivalry with Sam, her path to redemption, and more.
0:00 Intro
0:34 Recap
4:28 Rivalry with Sam
7:18 Path to Redemption
11:07 Final Thoughts
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What's next for Tory?
The new "Julie Pierce"
Stryfe the Warrior: This is another amazing video that I loved every minute of. I agree at first it was really hard to relate to Tory, I mean we sympathize with her because of her mom being so sick but found it really hard to relate to her because of her actions until now. They did such amazing job humanizing Tory this season that you couldn't help but be surprised that you were actually rooting for her this season. With Kreese in Jail and if she decides to leave cobra kai for good I can actually see Chozen being a great mentor for her to have because he has been where she is now especially in terms of wanting to kill someone that she views as an enemy and finding redemption, but I also could see the possibility of her maybe turning away from Karate altogether and finding a better mentor as well as the motherly figure that she really needs and has already gotten in Amanda. As much as I hate to say this I respect the fact that Kreese defended Tory when she needed it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he is a good mentor for her because you can defend someone all you want but that doesn't mean you are helping them in the way that they need it and Kreese for all intense and purposes helped Tory, but he only helped because HE needed her and put his needs first and that's not how it works. Helping someone means putting their needs first and yours last or not at all
The fact that Kreese is now behind bars for the time being, Tory has no one else, let alone Amanda, to turn to. But, to another sensei can relate to her experience: Chozen Toguchi.
Tory is a classic case of a kid with a rough upbringing. She believes that the world is out to get her due to all her past experiences. But everything changes when people offer assistance. Tory realizes that the world isn't so ugly and she doesn't have to go through this alone. There are good people out there who will love and support you.
Aside from that, I can't get the moment out of my head. The one when Tory saw Terry Silver bribing the referee.
As Mr. Miyagi said, "Never put passion before principle. Even if win, you lose." She has to do the right thing. This the point where she has to decide, "No Mercy," or "No Honor."
Agreed, along the same lines it wouldn't surprise me if Tory comes by the LaRusso house at the start of season 5 to tell Daniel and Amanda what she witnessed.
The thing with Tory is that she got what she wanted in the end. But was it worth it? Considering her belief that you have to fight for every inch of what's yours, especially considering how she's a person growing up struggling. But the cure for suffering, is not by making others suffer. Of course, she believes that the cure is winning, because Cobra Kai teaches that winning is power, which she now has.
But that's because her dojo cheated their way to get it. They stole it. And power that unearned can be a be a very volatile force. I hope the scene when Tory saw what Silver did makes her realize that what she's become, and that power is getting the best of her.
@@osmanyousif7849 Agreed, the only way she was going to learn is if she saw what she did at the end of the season. If she didn't she wouldn't have realized that she was being manipulated. (if that makes sense)
@@osmanyousif7849 this proves that Daniel is right about Silver being a con-artist who manipulates people into becoming something they're not.
Kreese might be an amoral Social Darwinist, the fact that Robby and Tory are the people he saw as his moral compass want to see them follow on their own path. This also shows Silver is what Kreese would be like if he had no one around him to be his moral compass. Silver only sees the students as a means to an end, he pretends to be humble to gain trust and fool people with his superficial charm. Not to mention being wealthy he is able to do what he wants without facing any consequences of his actions, especially bribing.
Since Tory beat Sam I felt like the more mature person won. After Tory landed that last kick she immediately went up to Sam and ask if she was okay. I feel like if Sam won she would’ve shit all over Tory and shove it in her face
100% i feel sam will become a member of cobra kai. In season 5 not just because of sams actions and Miguel leaving without saying goodbye. but because her mom Amanda is trying to help Tory sams enemy she'll view that as a betrayal. I could be wrong that's my thoughts on sam for season 5.
Also Silver reprimanding Tory like Kreese did to Johnny in Karate Kid Part 2
@@a-bomb3769 i can't see him choking Tory out almost killing her till Daniel steps in like mr. Miyagi did for Johnny. He probably will reprimand her but it'll be different. Because Tory won her tournament also Silver wants Tory on his side. You might be right anything is possible.
@@patrickmcgavin2245 yeah and after Daniel steps in and beats Silver and "honking" his nose humiliating in front of everyone in the parking lot
No she would have done neither of it
With every season the show finds ways to completely surprise me with the journey it takes these characters and challenge how I feel about them. I've honestly loved every season and because Cobra Kai debuted two seasons in 2021, it's probably my favorite show that came out last year
I find her relationship with Amanda this season rather interesting as it wasn't a direction I was execpting, given how hostile she has thought of tori since the last 2 seasons.
I wonder if tori thinks that Sam's parents grew up in a privileged background like Sam did thinking that had it easy. But in truth their history is more like hers, particularly in Amanda's case which is why she was able to help her start sorting out her life.
Since it probably due to that they were able to raise Sam to be a decent person and not the typical upper-class girl like Yasmin initially was, which tori probably thinks Sam is for the last few seasons.
Amanda > Boyfriend Miguel. Miguel does almost nothing to help her.
Miguel: Just get help (won’t help her)
Kreese: I’ll help you
Amanda: I’ll help you become a better person
I mean she is like yasmin just not as straight foward.
@@Meme-jo7uj how so because I don't really see it
Tory in Season 2 and 3: Mike Barnes version
Tory in Season 4: Johnny and Bobby in '84
Don't forget she's got Julie influence. Dark Julie.
@@antithoughtpolice7497 that too
Season 4 she had a lot of respect later on and she got helped by Amanda which is nice!
I actually love how balanced this guy's analysis of the characters and lessons of Cobra Kai 🐍 are.
He never seems to let his personal opinions of the character taint his assessment, or stop him from seeing all aspects and progression of the characters.
The teenage mellow drama is the worst part of the show to me, but seeing the breakdowns and call backs actually helped me remember some of the scenes I looked past.
Bringing it all together and giving me a better perspective as a whole, so thanks ✨
YES! My favorite female character in the series 💯
I'll defend S3 Tori on the account that most of the "important" characters need to have a really high or a really low point in their "hero's journey". Whereas Eli/Hawk was Season 2, Tori was Season 3. Part of it also playing into the overall theme of Cobra Kai as the students are a "product" from their Sensei's teachings. Until Season 2, most former Cobra Kai students where following under Johnny's mentorship. Whereas S3, Tori began to follow more under Kreese. With Kreese being more vengeful towards Miyagi-Do, it's likely Tori took more from it to heart. Kreese (initially) was more about "taking what's yours". In his case, when his Dojo lost to the "mysterious dojo" back in 84 still torments him to that day. An old man and a scared boy entering his dojo of black belt no mercy fighting students. Losing to dojo consisted of 1 person. There's no way he's gonna let that go. Rubbing that off on Tori, she'd see Sam as "that chick that took what was mine". Because Kreese had no "leash" like he did when he was with Johnny in S2, Kreese was able to use his philosophy. Both of which helped and tainted Tori.
With S4, Tori is able to talk to more people as well as confide with. While I was thinking Julie would be the one that could show Tori a better way to vent, I was surprised that Amanda filled those shoes. I believe that Amanda being another positive female role model is also what helped Tori start to see the other picture. While Kreese was the dad she never had. Amanda somewhat became the mother that's there for her. I liked it overall because it shows how much Kreese's philosophy corrupts the mind. Especially, when we see how Hawk starts to "stop drinking the kool-aid" when he's like "shit. I'm actually the bully now". Funny too, because Kreese actually softens up whenever he's around Tori. Maybe reflecting something he "could have had" with his lover back in his hayday that now turned him into such a bitter man. (wink wink) Tori probably makes Kreese think of the daughter he could have had as Johnny was the son he could have had.
I'm sure she'll stay with Cobra Kai but more like a "secret agent". Visiting Kreese to keep tabs on Silver. At the same time, tension between her and Silver may rise. When you think about it, Silver actually gets scary intimidating when you start questioning his methods as hinted from Karate Kid 3 when Daniel began bringing up about "illegal contacts". The line that stood out to me was that "Are you here to teach or to be taught?" Kinda annoys me how critics said "he was too goofy" when it turns out that Terry's scary af. He has that polite, welcoming air, but when something's not going his way, that switch clicks fast. I feel that Tori would have to be careful around Silver when it comes to questioning or going against his teachings. Even if she was to interrogate/confront Stingray, she'd have to make sure that Silver doesn't catch wind of this or catch her in the act. As for S5 Tori, she'd be on some thin eggshells if she stays with Cobra Kai.
As for S5; honestly, I'd like to see Chris, Mitch, Nate, and Bert get more Ws. I know they're side characters, but, I'd like to see them get some rise to. Like, Bert finally beating someone who towers over him. Chris got a W during S2. Hell, Kenny was introduced in S4 and already got 5 Ws.
I can't wait to see a role-reversal in season 5. Because of Amanda helping Tory, Sam could most likely go down to a darker path and Silver manipulating her into joining Cobra Kai. Honestly, Sam is better off under Silver.
@@PatrickBautista_RR3Gamer I would guess Sam will have the "fallen/wayward hero" path since she lost, but, I think joining CK would be too drastic of a step. Given how much her being attacked by CK students for 3 seasons straight. Robby joining had a better narrative flow given his upbringing and his lineage with his dad.
@@JnGArtimation Robby's time with CK was compelling in and on itself. Sadly, like what Johnny's teachings having inadvertently corrupted Hawk and Miguel in S1, history just repeated itself when Kenny is corrupted by the dojo's no mercy creed.
I think Sam joining Cobra Kai is a good thing coinciding with Tory leaving since she knew her match was rigged. Because Amanda had helped Tory turn her life back on track, and Sam protesting against lifting Tory's expulsion from school makes sense. And Silver will that to get into Sam's head and convince her that she's been living under Daniel's shadow and Amanda favoring Tory because they both share the same experience.
@@PatrickBautista_RR3Gamer I feel Sam be would worst than Tory, action wise. Something like attacking Miguel or Daniel while to get Tory and acting a victim about it. And Tory helps them. Reconciling with Miguel, so they could becomes best friends this time. apologizes/try to help her get away from Silver and his teachings
@@BLe-uw3vy with Miguel out of town, Sam has no one to turn to. She is still vulnerable to Silver's manipulations, and Silver will use Samantha's insecurities and her loss to Tory into seducing her to joining Cobra Kai also as a means to have both her and Anthony fighting each other.
Tory’s going to have a moment in season 5
While I still don't like Tory as a character, I do admit that she had a decent character arc and would like to see her have more of a redemption arc next season since she no longer wants to fight dirty.
I really enjoyed that Tory had someone that wanted to help her. It was great writing that they made Amanda that person. Maybe she'll eventually join Myagi-Do since it's clear that Terry Silvers Cobra Kai is going to be really unhinged. Also looking forward to see if Kreese might change his attitudes towards Daniel and Johnny now that he sees what Silver is capable of.
At the beginning, I loved Tory. And even during the school fight, until the moment she used a weapon, and tried to murder Sam, that I couldn't except. So I started hating her. And prior to season 4, I wished death/lifetime prison for her, and who would have believed, now, I love her all over again. I don't care that she never truly defeated Sam, to me she is the better fighter, the real champion, and yes I know, Terry bribed the ref, I meant her personality, is that of a true champion.
I feel like next season, Sam would be as worst than Tory was, maybe even while Tory is better than what Sam was.
Sam would join Cobra Kai Terry becomes a very bad influence on her, making ruthless. She’s tried pick fights with Tory but physically hurts everyone she loves in the process.
While Tory joins Miyagi do. Daniel doesn’t like a first, but thanks to Amanda, he willing to give her a chance and she became quickly his best and favorite student. Tory tries to apologize to Sam for hurting her, and tries to deescalate any fight. Daniel and Miguel got hurt the process. Tory helps them. Tory expresses how she’s going help Sam get away from of Terry’s hands and reconcile with Miguel for the pain she put him through and she and Miguel become good friends. And Miguel trains her in eagle eye too.
Then Sam and Tory have final fight, combining Miyagi do, Cobra Kai, and Eagle eye styles and, it ends with Tory won, but shows mercy to Sam.
This channel deserves way more views. Keep up the great videos.
Honestly, Tory has become one of my favorite characters in the entire series. I mean she goes through a lot and she learns a lot of things, but she still has a lot to learn because at the same time she’s still young. And honestly, her character arc is one of the most interesting character arc’s in my opinion. She’s just honestly one of the more interesting characters in the entire show.
Can you rank the Cobra Kai Fighters? (Robby, Eli, Miguel, Sam, Tory, and Demetri)
He has a vid on it, actually
@@Gold_Gamer_100 what's the video?
@@itzdavidramos8630 my mistake, it was a video on another Cobra Kai content creator, Tylearn, just search up Cobra Kai tier list Tylearn and youll see it, its like 10 minutes long or so...
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
She could join miyagi do because in season 5 there's only way Daniel and chozen are the keys to help her to find her balance.
I think that she’s joining Eagle Fang or Miyagi-Do. I don’t think she’s gonna stay in Cobra Kai, unless Silver blackmails her.
Thanks this what I been waiting for now I want to see the character Analysis and Continuation of Daniel love you’re videos
Robby&Tory are best couple 😎👍
Could you talk about the potential (in therms of strength) of each characters ? cause it's not always clear.
It's Amanda, she truly found an adult who actually cares. Kreese does care but since he brainwashes the kids into doing stupid things, it's what helped lead her into being far more aggressive that what you wanted. Amanda though didn't need to help the girl who twice almost permanently injured or even killed her daughter but she did. Remember when Tory had that conversation with her aunt and got threatened by her, she went strait to Amanda because she thought she could help. Without Amanda's influences Tory would still be in the same place she was.
I hope Tory joins Miyagi Do next Season
Honestly miyagi do isn't for her , she is a badass character , an natural attacking type so eagle fang would be better choice , making her go for deffence will be completely out of her character
@@anjan17 more precisely, the _offensive_ aspect of Miyagi-do. Chozen is the master of that. And Chozen is one of the few characters whose experience relatable to Tory, the other being Kreese.
@@PatrickBautista_RR3Gamer right now its called miyagi fang and i think jonny will be a good sensei for her but we also cant be sure cause out of all sensei she respect kreese the most since he support her in many way so there could be a chance about she freeing kreese from jail
@@anjan17 Tory can't do anything about Kreese yet even if she found out his arrest. Unless if she visits him in prison. Also, Johnny (and Robby) will be out of town to find Miguel.
Basically, having Tory to go Miyagi-do is the opposite of Daniel being trained with Cobra Kai in the third film, thus this making Chozen as the opposite to Silver.
I'm torn between Tory having a redemption story and not.
On one hand Tory is my favorite female character, the other they've had two already.
And look to have two others with Kreese and Robbie. It's too many my biggest worry is it'll feel tiresome and stale.
It would be better if it was just Tory because they spent more time with Torys redemption arc.
With Kreese and Robbie it was more subtle. Who knows maybe they'll do it right and i'll be happy. I have for all four seasons.
Tory and Sam are having a role reversal in this season. I just hope season 5 Sam goes down a dark path, much like how in The Karate Kid Part III with her dad. Meaning, Silver will manipulate Sam into joining Cobra Kai and cause a rift in the LaRusso family.
Thank you for this analysis great video 👏👏
Damn the upload timing lmao
In season 5 of Cobra Kai Tori Nichols turn to the good side.
Eagle Fang and Miyagi Do aren’t going to exist in season 5. Remember the deal? Cobra Kai was the winner therefore they have to close down. It’ll be Chozen Karate vs Cobra Kai. Chozen will take in the members of those respective dojos
The deal is now rendered moot with Kreese arrested. Also, Silver had nothing to do with the agreement made between Daniel, Johnny, and Kreese. Daniel will still continue teaching as he summed up in the season finale: "what's the point of honoring an agreement with men who have none?"
Also, it's made worse with Silver bribing the ref. Making Tory's win a tainted one.
I love thia show
Peyton is better actress, she is the GOAT actress
Peyton List does a good job because i despise her character
Make one for Miguel
Tory was inspired by Glimmer in Hunger Games
Are you doing Miguel next?
Influence of amanda and robby , i think robby and tory are eliminating each other weakness , robby is a kind guy no matter how he is so he is helping tory with her short temper and as per robby he is always lonely and want someone to support him and tory is exactly doing same , supporting him , belive him they 2 are better for each other
Tory so cold bro she beat sam using sams signature move. Shorty too icy 💯
She has never beaten Sam
And if you want to know what I think about this I think the only way for her is to do is leave, Kai then go to the house of the LaRusso‘s and apologize to the family and talk with them about the library then apologize to Samantha LaRusso in private just because that she has a sad story to does not give her the right to go after Sam and want to hurt her just because she’s told Miguel Diaz back and plus he would know that Tori never had McGill Diaz at all that was Sam LaRusso she had him first so I think that rivalry well and somehow the guy said
Will Tory Nichols get better or worse or give up and apologize to the family of Doug Lorusso and not just that apologize to Sam LaRusso herself and just let it go because I think it’s either that she gets better or will she get worse that’s why I want to see not just from the show it’s either both of them will have to find forgiveness they don’t have to become friends you do remember in season four where Sam said this
You want that psycho back in school does not make us best friends and you want us to be in the same school is not going to change a damn thing of what she did and you expect me to be happy about it and nobody listens to wha I have to say about it
Suns off and the mom says thanks for the back up which means is the mom wants Sam and Tori just to be friends as if the rivalry doesn’t exist it will always will exist I thought her back at school again but the question is this will Tori will she get there or will she just get worse over time when she sees Sam around nowadays she acts like that she’s not even there and her mom is just being held as excuse of letting the rivalry to continue that’s the question will she get better or will she get worse or is she going to just give up and break down as if the world is out to get her
I want that answered and video long with chronological lysing the rivalry where she is of now
Tori should have been that girl who ended up with Miguel she was so genuinely scared for him when he fell off the railing at school
Could Tory be Mike Barnes Daughter?
Of course not, because Mike Dmitry's father
I hope tory doesn't get redeemed too quickly or easily. I want her to suffer greatly for her redemption. She caused too much pain and I absolutely hate her. She instigated the school fight which almost ruined miguel and robby's life. And then she attacked sam in her own home. All the while she only saw her own problems and never considered others. And when faced with the consequences of her actions she pretends to be the victim. She deserves painful punishment for her to be redeemed.
In s5 episode 9 I think, she told Sam that she did not lose the all valley. That shows that Tory has changed her attitude towards Sam and maybe wants to talk to her about why she did not lose the all valley because Silver and Master Kim was manipulating kids and torturing them and she kinda needed that help by going to Sam so she can get away from Cobra Kai so she can team up with Sam and help take down Cobra Kai. Sam goes to Tory’s apartment and they talk about Cobra Kai and Silver. Sam tells Tory that Stingray told her that Silver assaulted him and Tory believed Sam and I’m glad she did because she needs to be on Miyagi Do side. So Tory starts to change and team up with Sam and Miyagi Do so they can expose Cobra Kai and show the world that Cobra Kai is not a good karate dojo. It’s a dojo for manipulating and hurting kids for nothing just to turn them into an angry person. I’m also glad Tory isn’t on Silver’s side no more because he made Master Kim break her hand by watching her break that hard stone and what really pissed me off is how Master Kim, Silver, and them other sensei’s left her there crying in pain knowing that she broke her hand on that hard stone. Then Silver going to have the audacity to talk about her in front of Master Kim that Master Kim really broke her down. That’s not right first all for an adult to do that to a child. Tory’s a child on her way into becoming a woman. And I’m mostly glad that Sam saved her from Master Kim in s5 episode 10, because Master Kim was hurting her by stepping on her hand knowing that her hand is in pain and go laugh at her like that’s even funny when it is not funny because she probably fractured her hand when breaking that stone. I’m happy to see Tory and Sam friends now and I hope it continues in s6 whenever the season is released, I don’t think they’ve confirmed a date yet. But I hope Tory and Sam start to develop more and become friends and train each other a lot more about karate. Even if I hated Tory at first, I’d just had to defend her because Master Kim and Silver were truly wrong for doing that to her knowing that she’s a child and they’re adults and way much older than her. They’ve came a long way in life. Tory still got her whole life ahead of her and I hope she doesn’t go to Cobra Kai EVER again!!!. So that’s basically it.
Hope she stays in cobra kai
Sam should join Cobra Kai instead and Silver will gaslight her into doing so.
Sam is just an itch that I've never liked out of all of this series the character is just a stroppy needy brat. She plays victim, antagonises cobra kai and plays Miguel and robby against each other where is the mercy of miyagi do. If anything Sam and tory should be in the opposit martial arts school. Tory has had changes, Sam has just gotten more and more rotten
playing Miguel and Robby against each other? I don't think you watch the show. Just because Tory is changed doesn't mean she is forgivable because she still hasn't taken accountability for her actions
Are you okay Sam joining Cobra Kai in season 5? Because she'd be better off trained by Silver.
@@PatrickBautista_RR3Gamer I think it would be an interesting arc but I don’t think it is plausible
I think this show would have been better with better acting Sam is pretty and they try to write her in but to me she is just not a good actor. The Miguel character is good actor same with all the old characters but most of these young characters can’t act worth a shit but I still somewhat like the show
I really like Tori’s character in season four I didn’t like her in the previous seasons I liked her more in season four. I think if Tori‘s mom dies in season five I think she will join Daniel and chosen because kris will be in jail she does not trust silver and Johnny will be a Mexico. I also think when she finds out Chris is in jail I think she’ll come to the Larosa’s house and tell them that silver paid the raft. another reason why I think she’ll join chosen and Daniel is because she was getting close to Amanda and so I think she would rather be with Daniel chosen then Silver. I don’t even think they will have eagle fang in season five since Johnny will be in Mexico so the other dojo Tori could join is Miyagido then cobra Kai. maybe the riders will put in season five only cobra Kai and Miyagido we know silver is opening cobra Kai dojo’s all over the valley. maybe for the first time we will see in season five Tori Robbie Miguel Eli Dimitri Sam all fighting for Miyagido be all against cobra Kai and trying to take them down in season five I cannot wait till season five comes out
Season 4 was definitely the weakest season out of the whole series, however one of the high point was Tory's character change. I've been in Tory's corner since day one. She's not evil her heart is just frozen due to everything in her life that she has to deal with. Now her heart is healing and she's starting to see that not everyone in the world is against her. Her character got even better in Season 5 granted Season 5 is the best Season since Season 2.
I love Tory.. But... Sam needs to admit her faults. Sam never takes responsibility for her actions. The fight at the after Prom fight Sam had no right to get mad seeing Robby with Tori. She cheated on both Miguel and Robby. I really want Tory to stay with Robby. She has had it tough.
Tory never admitted a single fault of hers . Also Sam never cheated on Miguel
Sam acts like she's so innocent but she isn't she's done some pretty horrible things one of them accusing Tori of stealing then didn't even have the decency to apologize
She tried to manipulate Miguel into changing dojos because her father won't approve of her dating someone who is associated with Cobra Kai and on top of that when Daniel asked her who she was talking to on her laptop
She said nobody she called Miguel a nobody the only boy who ever stood up for her when she was being disrespected by Kyler she didn't even tell her father or what Miguel did for her in the cafeteria if she had done that then Daniel would have seen Miguel in a different light
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They need to get rid of Sam and Miyagi Do. Zzzzzz
Without Sam and Miyagi Do this show wouldn’t have existed