This Integral Will Surprise You

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ค. 2024
  • An absolutely filthy integral.

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  • @learn-with-vince
    @learn-with-vince  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To see me check my work take a look at this derivative: th-cam.com/video/KaY2grN7HYk/w-d-xo.html

  • @harshilshah3891
    @harshilshah3891 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    You forgot to add +c

  • @chaosinsurgency884
    @chaosinsurgency884 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Ok now derivate the answer. Lets see it turn back into 1/(x^6 +1)

    • @learn-with-vince
      @learn-with-vince  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Here you go: th-cam.com/video/KaY2grN7HYk/w-d-xo.html

    • @chaosinsurgency884
      @chaosinsurgency884 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@learn-with-vince Thank you, I actually wanted to see that monster return to its humble beginnings

  • @sagaraharikumar2562
    @sagaraharikumar2562 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Ah, so thats how it is. Hmm. Ah.

  • @bn3121
    @bn3121 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    love the quick format also love "lawn" 😅

  • @user-og4zx7zf6e
    @user-og4zx7zf6e 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great format !

  • @SamuRai-de1dm
    @SamuRai-de1dm 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    had to retake a math course and ill probably just use this as my study guide. thanks vince.

  • @maburwanemokoena7117
    @maburwanemokoena7117 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    To think a derivative and an integral are related but one is extremely hard compared to the other

  • @acekingbones
    @acekingbones 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “+C”: am I a joke to you

    • @learn-with-vince
      @learn-with-vince  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes... no but really I did just forget it that's on me.

  • @ale4462
    @ale4462 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why not use series?

  • @chadchampion7985
    @chadchampion7985 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    lawn

    • @learn-with-vince
      @learn-with-vince  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      LAWN

    • @osu7389
      @osu7389 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@learn-with-vince mower

  • @abdousekhi4933
    @abdousekhi4933 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    can we use partial fraction with complex root?

    • @learn-with-vince
      @learn-with-vince  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't see why not

    • @abdousekhi4933
      @abdousekhi4933 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@learn-with-vince thnks this will make it hell of much easier

  • @ativanexpidetfan
    @ativanexpidetfan 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where is the c? Zero point

  • @itachu.
    @itachu. 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i am daed

  • @MichaelRothwell1
    @MichaelRothwell1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a nice exercise in integrating a rational function.
    For me, the surprise was the way you factorised the quartic x⁴-x²+1:
    x⁴-x²+1=x⁴+2x²+1-3x²=(x²+1)²-3x²
    =(x²+1+√3x)(x²+1-√3x)
    =(x²+√3x+1)(x²-√3x+1)
    How did you come up with this "trick"?
    Here is my method (without using your trick) which is rather longer.
    We note that x⁶+1=(x²+1)(x⁴-x²+1).
    (This comes from the standard factorisation x³+1=(x+1)(x²-x+1), replacing x by x²)
    On the other hand,
    x⁶+1=0 ⇔x⁶=-1
    which, as -1=cis(π), has solutions x=cis(±π/6), cis(±3π/6), cis(±5π/6).
    cis(±3π/6)=cis(±π/2)=±i leading to factors x-i, x+i with product (x-i)(x+i)=x²+1.
    So x=cis(±π/6), cis(±5π/6) are the solutions of x⁴-x²+1=0.
    The roots cis(±π/6) have sum 2cos(π/6)=√3 and product 1, so satisfy the quadratic equation x²-√3x+1=0.
    The roots cis(±5π/6) have sum 2cos(5π/6)=-2cos(π/6)=-√3 and product 1, so satisfy the quadratic equation x²+√3x+1=0.
    Hence x⁴-x²+1=(x²+√3x+1)(x²-√3x+1).
    Now, once I know this, I can write
    (x²+√3x+1)(x²-√3x+1)
    =(x²+1+√3x)(x²+1-√3x)=(x²+1)²-3x²
    =x⁴+2x²+1-3x²=x⁴-x²+1
    Now I can run the argument backwards to get what you wrote!
    So my question is: did you also follow this route to arrive at your "trick", or is there some easy way to reach it?

    • @ashvanthvijai7220
      @ashvanthvijai7220 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That is not a "trick" it is one of the general methods used to factorize bi quadratics. We will complete the square and then use difference of squares. If you are interested I've got a algebra problem based on this technique
      Find summation r going from 1 to 20 r/(r⁴ + 1/4)

    • @learn-with-vince
      @learn-with-vince  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I actually did do this using Rothwell's longer way

    • @MichaelRothwell1
      @MichaelRothwell1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ashvanthvijai7220 I've checked my notes on solving quartics, and was reminded of Ferrari's method:
      The aim is to factorise the quartic (with real coefficients) into the product of two quadratics (with real coefficients), which is possible by the conjugate root theorem.
      To do this, we rewrite the quartic equation as the square of a quadratic equals the square of a linear expression.
      (Or, equivalently, rewrite the quartic expression as the square of a quadratic minus the square of a linear expression).
      Start by rewriting the quartic as
      x⁴=x²-1
      Since the quartic is monic and depressed (i.e. has no x³ term), our quadratic must be of the form x²+m.
      Since (x²+m)²=x⁴+2mx²+m²,
      adding 2mx²+m² to each side of our quartic equation we get the equivalent equation
      (x²+m)²=2mx²+m²+x²-1
      or (x²+m)²=(2m+1)x²+m²-1
      The RHS will be a perfect square iff m²=1, and as we want 2m+1≥0 (to get the square of a linear expression with real coefficients) we take m=1:
      (x²+1)²=3x²
      (x²+1)²-3x²=0
      which is what was obtained in the video.
      Is that what you had in mind? When you said "a general method to factorise biquadratics" I'm not sure whether you were referring to a technique for quartics in general or for the easy case of quadratics in x² which appears in the video.
      I look forward to having a go at the problem you suggested.

    • @MichaelRothwell1
      @MichaelRothwell1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@learn-with-vince Lol! Algebra, algebra, algebra!
      But I took on board @ashvanthvijai7220's suggestion about using the difference of two squares to factorise quartics, as you can see from my reply above.

    • @ashvanthvijai7220
      @ashvanthvijai7220 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MichaelRothwell1 yeah it can't be used to factorize every bi quadratic. It can be used to factorize depressed ones.