The Ultimate Sourdough Starter Guide

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  • @JoshuaWeissman
    @JoshuaWeissman  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3145

    Thank you guys for all of the support on this video! I appreciate all of you so much! Leave a comment letting me know if you want more sourdough bread videos.

    • @pacifysoothingvibe9761
      @pacifysoothingvibe9761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Joshua Weissman 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍💜

    • @pschiu1771
      @pschiu1771 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Joshua Weissman hi Joshua,I love your video. It's very useful! I'm in the process of day 3, I can see some bubbles so I think is a good sign.
      However I have a question of the how to store the sourdough starter, as I can't keep feeding it forever 😂 . Can you make a video to cover for this as well? Thank so much!! Bless you.

    • @AlexanderAMY
      @AlexanderAMY 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Joshua Weissman more breed recipes

    • @JoshuaWeissman
      @JoshuaWeissman  6 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      PS Chiu Yes to all of this! I actually keep getting a lot of the same questions in the comments here so I've decided I'm going to put out a follow up to this video in the near future. I was originally going to post a chocolate babka video this week but I may veto that and actually put up the follow up sourdough starter video. With all of that said, the answer to your first question is yes. Once your starter is completely active (meaning it's rising and falling on a schedule and has been going for at least 7 days.) then you can store it in the refrigerator and feed it once a week.

    • @pschiu1771
      @pschiu1771 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's a typo mistake on your day 4, the water temp was typed in 80°F instead of 85°F

  • @robinholbrook6576
    @robinholbrook6576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13251

    I’m a 73 yr old Gramma who is learning some new cooking cooking methods: sourdough, croissants, to name two! And you, dear boy, are my mentor! Lead me on!!! Lol 🌹

    • @worldreformmedia6593
      @worldreformmedia6593 5 ปีที่แล้ว +218

      hey that's great, I can't believe I didn't find out about making bread without yeast packets until last year haha... I had never even considered how it may have been done before yeast packets... but I've been really enjoying making these sour dough loaves and pizza crust, so much fun.

    • @robinholbrook6576
      @robinholbrook6576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      large baguette um...a HOLBROOK thing? Lolol

    • @dafuck1899
      @dafuck1899 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      A gramma named robin, 🤔 hmm

    • @toasterdrippings
      @toasterdrippings 5 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      @@dafuck1899 Robin has been a name since the 1300's (and maybe even earlier!) - It's hardly a modern one :)

    • @visbytheproducer
      @visbytheproducer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@toasterdrippings he means it sounds like a masculine name, which it isn't necessarily one

  • @rodneysmart9774
    @rodneysmart9774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2370

    I've had my starter for over twenty years and I take it camping with me all the time. My mom's starter is like 100 years old, it was started by my grandma and bits of it now live in dozens of kitchens.

    • @Gerrardsoccer
      @Gerrardsoccer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      wow!

    • @Gerrardsoccer
      @Gerrardsoccer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      just wow

    • @spearageddon3279
      @spearageddon3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Wow ... that's hardcore dedication right there. 👊

    • @rodneysmart9774
      @rodneysmart9774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      @@spearageddon3279 and my Dutch oven has been in service in my family for 100 yrs. It's served hundreds of people, thousands of meals, up and down the coast from Canada to Mexico and all over the Sierras.

    • @spearageddon3279
      @spearageddon3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@rodneysmart9774 👍👍 I do use the heck out of my Dutch oven, love it. Just can't imagine how I would keep a starter going when I can barely keep a few plants alive LoL

  • @carolinaoliveira9011
    @carolinaoliveira9011 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +153

    This is a 5 years old video and you probably wont see this message, but I just wanted to thank you for this video. After 4 failed attempt to start my own starter, Ive followed your step by step here and guess what? It worked. On the second day I could see the difference already and I kept going and now I have a beautiful starter. Im watching your "No Knead Beginner Sourdough Bread" video now and I had to come back here to thank you for this one. So again, thank you.

  • @Q_The_Rabbit
    @Q_The_Rabbit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    My sour dough starter came from my aunt's crockery after her funeral. That was 1996. She got hers on her wedding day in 1952 from my Granny. My Granny got hers from her Granny in 1923. The flour has always been fresh ground, soft white wheat & malted barley flour. I use the starter reduction/feed cull to start my Sunday boule fermenting Thursday.

    • @emilybouth4262
      @emilybouth4262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Wow- a 100 year old starter! I bet the bread is amazing

    • @samanthanorman8702
      @samanthanorman8702 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amazing, 🙌❤

    • @jennisauld
      @jennisauld ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Insaneeee

    • @leea24354
      @leea24354 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Privilege ☺️to be able and purchase this dough starter

    • @hermitwatcher8997
      @hermitwatcher8997 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The immortal life of granny’s sourdough starter

  • @Cycke86
    @Cycke86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9365

    Isolation day 21, I started watching a guy who talks to a kitchen cabinet about feeding my imaginary yeast pet.

    • @ashwiniarun6666
      @ashwiniarun6666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      I'm doing this on day 14

    • @athenac2696
      @athenac2696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I really enjoyed your fun personality on your video! You helped perk up my day and put a smile on my face!

    • @funnyanimalshorts643
      @funnyanimalshorts643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      LOL first time I laughed today

    • @niklas5948
      @niklas5948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Tried to bring mine to life and it died day 11

    • @dnielgr
      @dnielgr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I don't know what day I'm on but yeah, same

  • @stevethetree1991
    @stevethetree1991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +849

    To anyone for whom feeding this thing every day is a dealbreaker: YOU DON'T NEED TO FEED IT EVERY DAY.
    I keep mine in the fridge. If I'm not baking with it, I just pull it out every 7 days, feed it and put it straight back in (feeding every 7 days keeps it active enough to be ready to use any time).
    Also: YOU WON'T KILL IT IF YOU DON'T FEED IT EVERY 7 DAYS IN THE FRIDGE. I have forgotten about my starter for 2-3 months on end and it still survived. I just fed it up again and it came right back to life.
    If you think you will likely forget about it for long enough to kill it, spread out a very active portion of starter on parchment paper and put in front of a fan to dry it until brittle. Break it up into flakes and store in a small airtight container. If you kill your main starter, you can simply hydrate this one, feed it, and it will come back to life. Stores for 6 months to a year so date the container and make a new one of those every 9 months or so. It's foolproof.
    Edit: I have successfully revived the dried starter after 1 year. But a 5 year old dried starter could not be revived (found it in the back of a cupboard). 5 years is too long, it turns out.

    • @timetravellingbunny3952
      @timetravellingbunny3952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Yes, and see "Bake with Jack" video number 115 for a more intelligent, reasonable, and less wasteful approach to sourdough starter.

    • @greeneyedcatwink
      @greeneyedcatwink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      GREAT INFO! How do you get the starter to be more and more sour, like SFO sourdough?

    • @stevethetree1991
      @stevethetree1991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@greeneyedcatwink That will depend largely on the way you make your dough, not just the starter. Fermenting at low temperatures (fridge) or high temperatures (28-32 degrees C), will both create a more complex/sour flavoured product. Also, a longer fermentation will do that as well. So in your recipe, you could reduce the amount of levain used so that fermentation takes longer. You can also do the bulk ferment in the high temperature range to develop that type of flavour, then do a long final proofing in the fridge to develop that type of flavour (different fermentation temperatures create different yeast/bacteria byproducts with slightly different flavours). The mildest flavours come when there is little production of byproducts (efficient fermentation) - which would typically be in the 21-28 degree C range. So, somewhat counterintuitively, you want an inefficient fermentation in order to create more flavour because efficient fermentation doesn't result in as much of those flavourful byproducts.
      I'm sure there are more variables but these are a good way to start experimenting.
      Good luck!

    • @balagtas1020
      @balagtas1020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can even put it in the freezed

    • @matthiasbigl
      @matthiasbigl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is there anything u can do with the dough u have to tough away in order to feed it

  • @AN-jw2oe
    @AN-jw2oe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +355

    For those concerned about starter discard waste-I collect mine in a sealed container in the fridge, and then use it to easily whip up some sourdough fry bread... mmm so good with just some salt, and even better with salt, green onions, and sesame seeds.

    • @jenc893
      @jenc893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I was wondering about that, thank you!

    • @mykitchentidar5382
      @mykitchentidar5382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, I was about to ask Joshua and then I read your comment. Thank you 😊

    • @006607
      @006607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you add anything to the starter or just flatten it out and fry? Thank you.

    • @aracelibarajas5254
      @aracelibarajas5254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Debbie Freireich this is what Mike from ProHomeCooks does with his. He just pours the starter straight into the pan with some olive oil.

    • @MohamMad-ul4zk
      @MohamMad-ul4zk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aracelibarajas5254 Exactly!

  • @svjetlixoxo2648
    @svjetlixoxo2648 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Hello. This is me, a person who has without success tried to replicate german style sourdough bread. It had haunted my dreams and I could sometimes even smell it in the air, but I could never ever make it myself. Not to lack of trying. But I just failed so gloriously every time, for yearsss. But this time I didn't. This time I followed your recipe, step by step, for the starter and then for the bread and there it was.. a few months later it was in the air. The familiar smell of sourdough bread. And I want to thank you. From the bottom of my heart. I thank you for bringing this recipe into my kitchen. It is as I remember it, fresh from the bakery when I was a child, and even better. I thought it wasn't possible, but you made it possible, so thank you. Thank you soooo much.

    • @O3oel2owlek
      @O3oel2owlek 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      W comment

  • @DatsiKxModz
    @DatsiKxModz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1527

    Here’s a tip! Instead of throwing out the starter mixture each day… put it in a separate jar each time to create another whole starter to give away/use or use it as a batter for frying things

    • @imluctor5997
      @imluctor5997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +182

      i was like waiting for him to tell me what i should do with the waste and there you go, thanks xD

    • @lonewolfe2502
      @lonewolfe2502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      🤯 GENIUS

    • @mrs.garcia6978
      @mrs.garcia6978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      You fry “things” in it? Do tell! I need some examples

    • @jktl386
      @jktl386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@imluctor5997 q aww

    • @luzcampos4817
      @luzcampos4817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      How about feeding it? I feel like I wouldn’t know how much to give it

  • @letstalkkennel
    @letstalkkennel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +270

    FINALLY a starter video that actually has information that a beginner like me can follow and understand! Never seen anyone talk about it having to be a glass container either. Thanks!

    • @JoshuaWeissman
      @JoshuaWeissman  6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Levi so happy to read this!

    • @markvecchiarello4169
      @markvecchiarello4169 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same for me too!!

    • @giuliocellocco3154
      @giuliocellocco3154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JoshuaWeissman What do you do with the remaining starter that you throw away? I saw you put it in a container so I wondered whether we needed it!

    • @sarah05111
      @sarah05111 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Giulio Cellocco you can make bread or any recipe you need starter!

    • @viethuongvothai686
      @viethuongvothai686 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Giulio Cellocco i’ve heard that people can make another starter from it

  • @WhimsicalFungi
    @WhimsicalFungi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1578

    "do not use bleached flour"
    Me, living in Germany, where you are not even allowed to sell bleached flour, absolutely confused about wtf bleached flour is supposed to be, untill I looked it up.

    • @VinnyGjokaj
      @VinnyGjokaj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +225

      Spike AMERCIA FUCK YEAH!! Sell anything even if it’ll kill you!!! But for real, bleaching flour kills all living bacteria to ensure the exact same rise for dough making! This way pizza places, bread shops, etc can get identical properties! It’s a totally horrible and unhealthy flour which causes people to have digestive properties. In America it’s common for people to say “they are gluten intolerant” when it’s really using extremely processed flour when does not even resemble natural ground flour anymore. Been here for 20 years now... trust me

    • @eCouchPotatoe
      @eCouchPotatoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@VinnyGjokaj I'd like a resource on that information if you have it.

    • @nuray9748
      @nuray9748 4 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      Me, from Germany, went yesterday to buy flour to do this recipe and was searching everywhere on the package for information in whether the flour is bleached on not 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @WhimsicalFungi
      @WhimsicalFungi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@nuray9748 We had a lot of flour at home and not really anything to do with it, so I thought I could start getting into bread making since I'm also bored because of this whole Corona lockdown thing.
      Looked through all the packages of flour we had if they are bleached or not and then asked myself what the hell "bleached flour" even is.

    • @jeffallinson8089
      @jeffallinson8089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@nuray9748 I live in England and I looked on the packaging as to whether the flour I buy is bleached and I have no idea.

  • @dthomascful
    @dthomascful ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Thanks to you, I’m now producing the best bread I’ve ever done in my 30 years of baking! Thank you Josh. You’re adorable!

  • @TrueSkyblueClouds
    @TrueSkyblueClouds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1052

    Pro tip: you don't even have to feed it every day once it's done. If you're not baking every day, you can just keep it in the fridge and take it out once a week (or a few hours before you use it for baking) to feed it. Just give it a few hours on top of the fridge to "digest" its meal and then slap it back in the fridge.

    • @andrewdoesyt7787
      @andrewdoesyt7787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Quick question does it get better on days past 7?

    • @TrueSkyblueClouds
      @TrueSkyblueClouds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@andrewdoesyt7787 Sourdough starters tend to get more complex flavor as time passes. But I don't know exactly what you mean by "better"

    • @andrewdoesyt7787
      @andrewdoesyt7787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TrueSkyblueClouds oh I was just curious but just like what you would think tastes better lol.

    • @TrueSkyblueClouds
      @TrueSkyblueClouds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@andrewdoesyt7787 Yes, I (and most people, as far as I can tell) love sourdough better the longer it's been going. But your opinion might differ.

    • @andrewdoesyt7787
      @andrewdoesyt7787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TrueSkyblueClouds well thank you for sharing your experience with others!

  • @honestchin621
    @honestchin621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2533

    Since my mom won't let me get a dog, this will be my pet

    • @jerseyhudson27
      @jerseyhudson27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      No litter box.. and you dont have to go to the vet

    • @honestchin621
      @honestchin621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@jerseyhudson27 yes, that's the good thing about it

    • @MohamedAhmed-zi1ru
      @MohamedAhmed-zi1ru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@jerseyhudson27 4:13 litter box

    • @honestchin621
      @honestchin621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dosing Psychedelics I'm Chinese so this is very fitting lol

    • @MohamedAhmed-zi1ru
      @MohamedAhmed-zi1ru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@honestchin621 did u just troll ur self 😅

  • @terrierickson439
    @terrierickson439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +453

    I must have watched 25 sour dough videos but yours was the most detailed, confidence building and included the feeding chart. I’m on day 3 and “Clint” looks great! Yes! More sour dough content please. Love your videos!

    • @darja25
      @darja25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Clint 🙇🏻‍♀️😂😂👏🏼 i’m dead

    • @ronitreddy9623
      @ronitreddy9623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How did it go

    • @rainnewu7341
      @rainnewu7341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      OMG another person who names their starter! Mine is named Perchta!

    • @Thetrilingualreader
      @Thetrilingualreader 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WE NAMED OURS CLARA!! We got an overflow in the jar on day 2!!! Which is insane!!!!! I had to change the jar to a bigger one (a 1 kg one) and it still overflowed!!

    • @missharmon
      @missharmon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha, I named mine John Brown.

  • @oylc
    @oylc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    i started learning how to make my own bread. kinda funny cause what you said reminded me of something. you said if you can brush your teeth, you can feed your sourdough. depression and anxiety have been kicking my butt for a while now and making bread has been a way to help me through it. im definitely trying this out and i hope i wont let it die.

    • @karyslillie8653
      @karyslillie8653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey man! I hope all is going well!! With you and your sourdough!

    • @LisaTurner-d1b
      @LisaTurner-d1b 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea I know this comment is at least a year old but I had to respond. You will find such things as gardening and cooking to be very soothing for the soul and in both cases allow you to share the efforts of your work. Who doesn't like fresh baked bread or fresh vegetables form a friends kitchen or garden. It brightens your day and theirs. It also gives you a sense of accomplishment.

  • @jamma246
    @jamma246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3409

    Sourdough starters. The new Tamagotchis for 30 year olds.

    • @danielsay9842
      @danielsay9842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      i feel attacked. you absolute bastard.

    • @sorry2104
      @sorry2104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Except you can get delicious bread from them

    • @anarchist_parable
      @anarchist_parable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      You came for us. You came for us all.

    • @jennhoff03
      @jennhoff03 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha!

    • @TamarLitvot
      @TamarLitvot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And 70 year olds

  • @NLtrickNL
    @NLtrickNL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1613

    I didn't know that skrillex made cool bread

    • @NicMG
      @NicMG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Young Mike Patton more like!

    • @reynetteventura2072
      @reynetteventura2072 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ffs

    • @saegerrr
      @saegerrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      there it is! I know I've seen that guy somewhere before

    • @ambercrystal419
      @ambercrystal419 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lemonades 🤣

    • @tivicantsleep
      @tivicantsleep 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What? He literally looks nothing like sonny lol

  • @Tintin-wo4wc
    @Tintin-wo4wc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    Protip: you can use basically any unblesched flour. Yes, rye is best, but it doesn’t matter that much in the long haul. Also, after the first 7-10 days you can keep it in the fridge and only feed it once a week or when youwant to bake something. It’ll be fine :)
    Source: i’ve been baking sourdough for a year

    • @indah3985
      @indah3985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      feed the discard or the remaining starter? and for the unbleach flour is it has to be bread flour or just ap flour?

    • @Tintin-wo4wc
      @Tintin-wo4wc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@indah3985 feed the starter so it stays active, i’m swedish so i don’t really know the difference between ap and bread flour but plain white flour works well!

    • @Stellaaa1989
      @Stellaaa1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So is discard really a discard like I have to actually throw them away?

    • @indah3985
      @indah3985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tintin-wo4wc feed it once a week as the same ratio as you feed them once a day?

    • @indah3985
      @indah3985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Stellaaa1989 i heard you can use them to make another dish but idk i never made them lol cmiiw

  • @tee_sees6579
    @tee_sees6579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I made this about a year ago, and the dough smelled soo good. I baked mines in a ceramic crockpot and when I tell you that thing was cracking when it was done, I mean it. My fam ate it right up! Perfect with a bit of Nutella and It wasn’t too much work too, so I’ll probably make it again 👍🏾 thanks for this!!!

  • @melissapowers3270
    @melissapowers3270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Used this guide to make 2 sour dough starters back on 2/2/22. One was called Odo, a control following this recipe. The other was called Patricia, using a 50/50 mixture of bread flour & unbleached AP. Both survived the first week, Patricia made an excellent sandwich bread, but was noticeably more runny (runnier? English is weird). They have since combined into Patrodo & has been doing really well with a 1:1:1 starter, flour, & water ratio. Thanks so much for your informative videos Josh!

    • @evam4182
      @evam4182 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Omg, Odo 💛

  • @Turd_Ferguson666
    @Turd_Ferguson666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +860

    Your starter shares my birthday. I'm much older and more sour though.

    • @eduulloa98
      @eduulloa98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      This comment is so underrated

    • @issajt
      @issajt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eduardo Ulloa right lol it’s pure gold

    • @malvszukaguza4797
      @malvszukaguza4797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      "I'm much older and more sour DOUGH." ;)

    • @simbbam
      @simbbam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      best comment of the year

    • @oreo5892
      @oreo5892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good joke don’t repeat it

  • @norash7777
    @norash7777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    instead of throwing out the yeast when doing feedings, fry it and put some (equal parts) thyme, basil, oregano, sesame seeds, lemon zest (and a pinch of salt) on it. Fry in olive oil. the most delicious thing you will ever eat. also, dip in some sour cream or tzatziki!

    • @meowmep1366
      @meowmep1366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Noruh I was just wondering what I could do with it, thank you!

    • @felixhushpup2545
      @felixhushpup2545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      You dont want to do this in the beginning because the ph is getting established and before the lactic acid creates an acidic environment bacteria like e. Coli and other nasty bugs will still be able to live there and cooking doesn't necessarily kill them all

    • @norash7777
      @norash7777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@felixhushpup2545 good to know. I... may have not known that, oops. However, with the acidic environment from fermentation--I thought you didn't want this, as it is a sign of the yeast running out of food and fermenting/eating other things and overall not being a healthy, active starter? I know there were times where there was just a layer of clear alcohol-y liquid on top (I've looked it up and essentially read what I just said)

    • @chris1275cc
      @chris1275cc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You can also give it to friends or create different batches that you can experiment with.

    • @felixhushpup2545
      @felixhushpup2545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Steve Craine not all strands some actually survive pretty high temps

  • @dbryceman
    @dbryceman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is a critically important recipe for people. In the absence of yeast, leavening can be acquired from the flour and even the air in your home. It might sound gross, but this is how bread and beer really got started. Thanks, Josh!

    • @yentreb
      @yentreb ปีที่แล้ว

      I need more answers 😅 I feel like I’m in a rabbit hole. Will google in the meantime.

  • @stellamantikou4978
    @stellamantikou4978 5 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    My grandmother used to make sourdough bread every week for the whole family for years.
    First she made the bread keeping a piece of dough separately in a bowl as a starter. She then left the piece of "starter" dough in a bowl covered with flour for a week, until it was time to make bread again. She then took the piece of "starter-dough", dusting off the excess flour and she rehydraded with some warm water (as you would with the packaged yeast) eaving it for a while to activate. She then made the bread keeping a new piece of "starter-dough" and so on.. This is a traditional way of making bread all over Greece, with various results as many as the women that made bread!
    Unfortunately by the time I was born my grandma had stopped making bread due to old age, but I always wondered how it would compare to the "everyday feeding" method. Unfortunately sourdough is my Holy Grail, and I am a new home baker with no time so.. I just wanted to share this knowledge in case someone thought it would be useful!

    • @cynhwon
      @cynhwon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Stella Mantikou wow...it is very interesting to know. I‘d like to try it some time later:)

    • @Nagutama
      @Nagutama 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This works just as well :D this is how my grand granmother did It

    • @phlox3848
      @phlox3848 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Que fait on de ce qui n' a pas été prélevé ??.c est jeté ?? Ce serait dommage !

    • @gioknows
      @gioknows 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We're Italian and that is how my Mom used to bake sour dough bread but I think I'm going to try this method which looks really good.

    • @childesinthev.761
      @childesinthev.761 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@phlox3848 Cherchez des recettes qui vous permettent d'utiliser le levain enlevé les jours où vous ne faites pas de pain, sans avoir besoin de trop cuisiner. Crêpes, gaufres par exemple, ou même directement à la poêle avec quelques ingrédients pour enjoliver un peu.

  • @michaeld277
    @michaeld277 5 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    Keep it in the fridge if you bake sporadically, feed once a week. Mine has been living that way for years

    • @InfectiousWellness
      @InfectiousWellness 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So if you put it in the fridge at the day 7 state and only feed it once a week it keeps?!

    • @izzy4reel
      @izzy4reel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@InfectiousWellness yup. I keep mine in the fridge too.

    • @thepunkisnotdead6760
      @thepunkisnotdead6760 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Im sorry about my bad english.
      When I put it in the fridge should I close tight the jar?
      and in the video while I am on day 1-7 should I never tighten the jar?
      its hard to keep up with him, hes talking very fast 😉

    • @izzy4reel
      @izzy4reel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thepunkisnotdead6760 people have different views on this. I close mine tight. Never had a problem with it.

    • @thepunkisnotdead6760
      @thepunkisnotdead6760 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@izzy4reel thank you!

  • @Cmonmanny
    @Cmonmanny ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you Josh! I followed your instructions precisely and today is my 7th day and the starter is active and thriving! I’ll make bread with this sometime next week. This is my first time making a starter. So thank you for this video.

  • @michealcox7236
    @michealcox7236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    Never go on a trip.
    "Yeah, house sitter, I need you to feed my darlings."
    "Your dogs?"
    "No, I need you to feed my jar."

    • @rebeccan7276
      @rebeccan7276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      it can be kept in the fridge for a few weeks, you just have to wake it up for a day or so before baking with it again

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’d prefer that to picking up dog sh*t! Plus, they would owe you a favor 😉 just let me try the end product!

  • @lydialindsay7448
    @lydialindsay7448 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    After my previous starter collapsed several times I am thrilled that this method works brilliantly. I’m about to bake my first loaves with my new starter. Thanks so much for posting.

  • @billysteiger7092
    @billysteiger7092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1182

    Alternate universe where Heath Ledger's Joker becomes really good at baking sourdough bread instead of robbing banks and hating Batman.

    • @Tiragron99
      @Tiragron99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      "Wanna know where I got this starter?"

    • @hemprope4326
      @hemprope4326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@Tiragron99 We live in a society
      Where they make lousy bread

    • @annamota12
      @annamota12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      cryiNNGGG

    • @missredhead5995
      @missredhead5995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      If you’re good at something never do it for brie

    • @jonathanschmidt3595
      @jonathanschmidt3595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Maybe baking is his passion and he robs banks to pay for yeast

  • @cmak08
    @cmak08 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mixing it by hand, and also adding an additional hand mixing stage in between feedings helps it develop a lot. Your hands contain some of the microbes needed for it to grow. Also helps you understand and get a feel for your starter and different stages.

  • @JeremyBransford
    @JeremyBransford 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1136

    We have a 70+ year old sourdough starter. It's family. Began in the gold rush of 1949 and has traveled the globe.
    P.S. Don't take starters on airplane trips or BOOM! goes your carry on bag.

    • @JoshuaWeissman
      @JoshuaWeissman  6 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      Wow, that is so incredible!

    • @mamarosey1
      @mamarosey1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +157

      Edit: Great grandma has the starter, the rest of us have killed our children starters...so we get some every family reunion.

    • @JeremyBransford
      @JeremyBransford 6 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      True. And since grandpa was the daily sourdough flapjack maker, I think it may be time to take feeding the starter seriously.

    • @JoshuaWeissman
      @JoshuaWeissman  6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Haha, that's wonderful! Yay sourdough reunion!

    • @lindap2663
      @lindap2663 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Joshua Weissman when I was a tadpole in culinary school we had a 100 year old starter that my pastry professor inherited. Her name was Audrey 2 (Little Shop of Horrors reference) and we all had to take turns feeding her. For thanksgiving one year I got to take some of her home and make fresh bread for dinner. Good memories! ☺️

  • @nadiazakaria8036
    @nadiazakaria8036 5 ปีที่แล้ว +680

    It is day 232... I am still happy living in his cupboard.

    • @Smfournier
      @Smfournier 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neya Za Omar do you feed daily and have you missed ?

    • @afek1835
      @afek1835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i’m sure that he feeds you well...

    • @timetravellingbunny3952
      @timetravellingbunny3952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The approach in this video creates too much starter to begin with.
      See "Bake with Jack" video number 68 for a more intelligent, reasonable, and less wasteful approach to sourdough starter.
      Even if we were not in the midst of a pandemic, the process described in this video is wasteful. It generates an excess of starter which then somehow needs to be dealt with. If you are baking a dozen loaves of sourdough, this video may work for you. However, it’s better to not generate the excess to begin with. I strongly suggest you don't waste your time with this man's complicated, wasteful, discouraging process. See "Bake with Jack" video number 68 for a more intelligent, reasonable, and less wasteful approach to sourdough starter. Jack has other informative videos regarding sourdough starter and sourdough baking.

    • @tinadujic9375
      @tinadujic9375 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, but can You wright wich kind of flour to use. I am from croatia and he speak to fast for me. Thank you!

    • @wcpportfolio
      @wcpportfolio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tina Dujić any unbleached, whole grain flour

  • @RDrakeSans1
    @RDrakeSans1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    I started my sour dough starter when I was 12. I'm 56 now. I started it with bleached flour, and have continued using bleached type "00" flour from Italy to this day. I keep it in the refrigerator, and often forget about feeding it for several months at a time. It may take some time to reactivate it, but it comes back every time. I've even spread a bit out on some waxed paper to dry, and tossed out the majority. Then I reactivated it once I'd moved across the country. :)

    • @valeriamontanari975
      @valeriamontanari975 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      congrats!
      so you haven't use rye flour??

    • @RDrakeSans1
      @RDrakeSans1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@valeriamontanari975 nope! I don't particularly care for rye. I've made a whole wheat, though.

    • @vanessa.garcia13
      @vanessa.garcia13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ive just made mine with while wheat but the smell is pretty bad but rose really well. i was wondering if that’s how it’s meant to smell ?

    • @RDrakeSans1
      @RDrakeSans1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@vanessa.garcia13 Yep!! Smells beer-y, right?

    • @vanessa.garcia13
      @vanessa.garcia13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      R. Drake Sansone yes it does ! i didn’t know if that was good or bad bc nobody in my family has ever made a starter. i’m the only one that enjoys baking and cooking. thank you soo much for letting me know !

  • @masticatedaily1
    @masticatedaily1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is it. This is the one.
    I went through at least 5 youtube guides, one of which was a masterclass, and a book. Always had lackluster starter. Maybe double the growth after feeding and not much activity during the baking process.
    Now I'm getting at least 3x rise and even after setting aside starter that overflowed, there's it rises like 2x more at least. My starter seems more lively than ever.

  • @nickc2802
    @nickc2802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    I can't get my starter to take. I follow the directions exactly and I even use the same flour (down to the brand!). Day one and two seem normal, the starter even seems to get a few bubbles and a sheen on the top. By day three it seems to start darkening in color, and by day four It starts to whisper to me. I woke up day 5 with a thick web of black starter covering my hallway and into the kitchen. I couldn't get through so I just threw some flour and water at it and went back to bed. Day 6 It woke me up suddenly. It told me it didn't like being called starter. Starter implied it had a beginning. I tried to start fresh but every time I walked towards the kitchen I woke up in my bed.
    Day 7. The sun never came up. Clocks all stopped at 10:13 this morning. I fed it. Feeding it makes me so tired. I don't remember falling asleep
    Day 8 The light is gone. In the void his voice is loudest. We understand us now. I feed myself to us.

    • @Nerdperior
      @Nerdperior 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      genuinly the funniest comment ever

    • @cherrybomb3098
      @cherrybomb3098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      please write a book and publish that masterpiece

    • @quantumphantasm6354
      @quantumphantasm6354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love this.

    • @orangeapprentice7634
      @orangeapprentice7634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wonderful.

    • @Jarrettmonty99
      @Jarrettmonty99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      not sure what your inspiration is for this, but coincidentally up to day 4 or 5 resonated with me as mine eventually just molded instead of growing lmao. Frankly, a black mold outbreak in the house, given enough time, may lead to psychosis quite like this lmao

  • @marcelkrijger86
    @marcelkrijger86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Great video!
    FYI producing and selling bleached flower is forbidden in Europe (since the late 50's), so there only UNBLEACHED flour for sale in every shop in Europe. Do not get ripped of by purchasing expensive flower because the word unbleached is on the package...

    • @SpoonsForks
      @SpoonsForks 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      flour*

    • @somatia350
      @somatia350 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Temi Christine I hope you’re joking

    • @taradead
      @taradead 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did not know that.

    • @abelcasillas1853
      @abelcasillas1853 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Good for Europe, wish it was like that in the Americas

    • @cecilyvanv4115
      @cecilyvanv4115 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      but not in the US

  • @0xstev3
    @0xstev3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    TL;DW:
    Day 1:
    1L Jar + loose lid, record jar weight
    100g wholegrain, unbleached flour
    150g 85F water
    Day 2:
    Stir
    Leave 70g starter behind
    Add 50g wholegrain
    Add 50g whole purpose flour
    115g 85F water
    Day 3: Repeat day 2
    Day 4: Repeat day 2, Water = 100g
    Day 5: Repeat day 4
    Day 6: Repeat day 4, Leave 50g starter
    Day 7: Repeat day 4, Leave 25g starter
    Day 8+: Repeat day 7
    Fridge: Remove a day before use.

    • @hellokittybg93
      @hellokittybg93 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn't say to put it in fridge?

    • @0xstev3
      @0xstev3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hellokittybg93 I must have noted that down from a different video. If you just bake once a week you don't need to leave it out every day, which would require a lot of extra feedings.

    • @cl9080
      @cl9080 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do I need to feed it (repeat day 7 or day 8, essentially the same) after I remove it from the fridge and before use?

    • @suzannenichols6900
      @suzannenichols6900 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thx.😁

    • @elitestudios8106
      @elitestudios8106 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Steven - on days 1-6 what do you do with the leftover starter? Can it be used or only thrown away?

  • @mythicalmim
    @mythicalmim 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm baking a bread I've never baked before for every month of this year. Very excited to try sourdough for the first time! This video made it seem a lot less daunting

  • @Rowdeegolf
    @Rowdeegolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    When I first started making sourdough, making the starter seemed like a daunting task. Then it wasnt. Just do it. Making actual bread is the real task. Just read, watch, try and it will happen. After all, the smell of baking bread, priceless.

    • @alexandrevaliquette1941
      @alexandrevaliquette1941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a nice comment. I just started tonight: took me less than a minute!

    • @TheApplianceDirect
      @TheApplianceDirect 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexandrevaliquette1941 how is your starter going?

  • @rwz
    @rwz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    For the long haul and reduce discarded starter, keep it in the fridge and you can take it out the day before baking, feed it to get the amount of starter needed plus having starter remaining to keep in the fridge.

    • @twowheeleddaydreams4291
      @twowheeleddaydreams4291 ปีที่แล้ว

      in your usage what kinda mileage are you getting out of storing it in the fridge? is there a min/max amount of days before you need to take it out and feed it?

    • @rwz
      @rwz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@twowheeleddaydreams4291 for me and my fridge, which is set to "2", 6 das worked fine. So I only ever feed it in preparation for the next bake.
      But i stopped now for baking, due to lack of time and energy cost.

  • @terriabowling
    @terriabowling 6 ปีที่แล้ว +716

    Seriously sounds like I'll need a babysitter for my starter when I go on vacation.

    • @JoshuaWeissman
      @JoshuaWeissman  6 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      Soaps by Terri Ann actually that does exist. There are people you can hire to feed your starter. With that said you can also place it in the refrigerator when you go on vacation and feed it when you get back.

    • @dvdny
      @dvdny 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you. How long will it keep in the fridge?

    • @stoddski
      @stoddski 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Generally you want to feed it once a week if you keep it in the fridge, but I just left it for three weeks without feeding and it bounced back after a few days of feeding

    • @JoshuaWeissman
      @JoshuaWeissman  6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Check out my video on Sourdough starter mastery. I talk about all of these things: th-cam.com/video/ASD3uu2N5UE/w-d-xo.html

    • @christophermitchell359
      @christophermitchell359 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I have a starter that I have been using for about a year. I leave mine in the fridge for 2 weeks at a time. Take it out, let it warm up, throw out half, feed it, 12 hours its ready to use.

  • @MothmanBaddie
    @MothmanBaddie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    I’m finally accumulated the tools necessary to make proper homemade sourdough, and I just began the starter making process this morning! I must have watched this video 25 times over in preparation!😂 Please wish me luck! You make it seem so easy, and I will be following your directions to the t, so I remain hopeful. Thank you, Josh! If my fist loaf turns out half as beautiful as yours I will be satisfied. Sending you love. ♥️🥹

  • @eagleflies8681
    @eagleflies8681 5 ปีที่แล้ว +763

    just a tip: lower the background music a lil bit

    • @mojotex357
      @mojotex357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Turtle Human nah it’s a little loud

    • @Islending
      @Islending 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      For people with a hearing issue (and there are really many different kinds of hearing problems) the music can be a problem.

    • @biannkbya
      @biannkbya 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I didnt even realize there was music until I read ur comment lol

    • @andreawinn3249
      @andreawinn3249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Agreed. Too distracting. Leaving the video now. ✌🏻

    • @toddbaker7554
      @toddbaker7554 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, and I was also going to add that he get some zit medicine. But that would be mean, so I won't say that. And get a haircut. And get off of my lawn!

  • @luisamendoza986
    @luisamendoza986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thank you so much for this starter recipe ! I am your follower since I got marry almost 2 years ago, I ve cooked some of your bread recipes before and they all came out amazing! I cook Challos every week and I am planning to use this starter as a new way to feed and pray for my family and friends. Wish me good a luck since I will include you as one of them! I will be posting pics of my first sourdough loaf! Lots of blessings to you !

  • @florapattybull
    @florapattybull 6 ปีที่แล้ว +776

    I clicked on this video and was totally unprepared for his fabulous hair. You go, sourdough fabio.
    Also this worked out great, my starter was about a day off but so good. Thanks !!

    • @JoshuaWeissman
      @JoshuaWeissman  6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Flora Fogel so happy to read this! Glad it worked out well for you! I think I’m gonna get a trim soon. 🙏😭

    • @SettOfTheBrightSky
      @SettOfTheBrightSky 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Literally same!
      #sourdoughfabio

    • @beesnuts
      @beesnuts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Fabidough

    • @johnNJ4024
      @johnNJ4024 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You don't need a trim. You either need to wash it or not use so much product in it. Just my 2 cents worth, sorry.

    • @SettOfTheBrightSky
      @SettOfTheBrightSky 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@johnNJ4024 maybe a little trim for split ends but agree! Wash only every 2nd day with products and brush nightly to redistribute oils and you're sweet!

  • @mixit2me688
    @mixit2me688 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Just posting here lol this right here was my first introduction to you Joshua, we share the same name too. Was watching a oldie from 3 years ago on making your Owe flour and the Nostalgia of you hitting your 100,000 Subscribers was making me feel so bloody happy for you. Been a long way for you to get where you are now and I’m so happy I Experience it all with you.

  • @robfj3414
    @robfj3414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant. For a while, I kept coming back to this video for myself. Now I come back to it to pass the link on to friends and family. Great stuff! This is the first time I've had a starter not only work out perfectly but also stay alive for a long time!

  • @shtzweak
    @shtzweak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    Someone grew up watching Alton brown, the way he opens the cupboard and talks to the camera is exactly what Alton used to do

    • @cosmic-fortytwo
      @cosmic-fortytwo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Alton is a cooking God. All Hail Alton! (We're not worthy!)

    • @annaharding6084
      @annaharding6084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, I thought so too! Young Alton

    • @anthonyz9197
      @anthonyz9197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's the first thing I thought of

    • @arcticspeedo
      @arcticspeedo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Alton B. Is back on the air with Good Eats and Good Eats Reloaded. He also has a channel here on TH-cam

    • @momatmusic
      @momatmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yo I’m asking everyone what’s the standard feeding after day 7?

  • @TLJM007
    @TLJM007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Joshua, thank you for inspiring me to bake! I am proud to say that my 'starter' has come on leaps and bounds because of your clear method.

  • @mental508
    @mental508 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This recipe is wonderful! I just found a recipe online for pancakes with sourdough discard because I didn't like the idea of throwing it away and they turned out nicely so I'll experiment more with what you can do with it instead of throwing away. The bread is great, I love the smell and taste of it.

  • @jamesnetusil9297
    @jamesnetusil9297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    “If you have 15 minutes to curl and brush your hair like I do, you have 5 minutes to feed your bread baby!“ - Josh Weissman, 2019

    • @zeroomens9438
      @zeroomens9438 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      buffoon

    • @TheNYgolfer
      @TheNYgolfer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      nothing worse than a foot long hair in your bread

    • @MissMal92
      @MissMal92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This dude has natural God hair, don't be jelly 😂

  • @tzisorey
    @tzisorey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    I like how he gives the weight in grams, and the water temperature in farenheight.

    • @JoshuaWeissman
      @JoshuaWeissman  6 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Tzisorey Tigerwuf ohhh good point. Totally have been missing that. I’ll start making conversions for that as well moving forward. Thanks!

    • @MaryMagdaleneMagdalene
      @MaryMagdaleneMagdalene 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      🤣yeaaaa I thought u were saying 85degree CELSIUS at first!!!! Lol

    • @steevo9656
      @steevo9656 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It annoyed me lol.

    • @ameliapozzi3766
      @ameliapozzi3766 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Joshua Weissman its great concidering american and alaska are the only places on the planet the use farenheight

    • @orongosadlier8546
      @orongosadlier8546 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I Believe I Can Fly Believe I Can Fly really lucky guy Believe I Can Fly

  • @keziaturuze6687
    @keziaturuze6687 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2437

    Who is here because of COVID-19? After this pandemic I am going to be a Master

    • @timetravellingbunny3952
      @timetravellingbunny3952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The approach in this video creates too much starter to begin with.
      See "Bake with Jack" video number 68 for a more intelligent, reasonable, and less wasteful approach to sourdough starter.
      Even if we were not in the midst of a pandemic, the process described in this video is wasteful. It generates an excess of starter which then somehow needs to be dealt with. If you are baking a dozen loaves of sourdough, this video may work for you. However, it’s better to not generate the excess to begin with. I strongly suggest you don't waste your time with this man's complicated, wasteful, discouraging process. See "Bake with Jack" video number 68 for a more intelligent, reasonable, and less wasteful approach to sourdough starter. Jack has other informative videos regarding sourdough starter and sourdough baking.

    • @LegionMizzy1
      @LegionMizzy1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@timetravellingbunny3952 Is the excess that he's scooping off and "discarding" every day before re-feeding being used to make bread? I'm a complete noob so I'm not really sure as to what he's doing with it. I would assume that it's being used for that purpose and not just going in the trashcan, but I don't know.

    • @timetravellingbunny3952
      @timetravellingbunny3952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LegionMizzy1 I don't know what he is doing with it either. The point is, he creates more than is needed. I don't think it is worth our time to attempt to understand what he does with it if there are other approaches such as "Bake with Jack".
      Two, more detailed Bake with Jack videos are number 115 regarding sourdough starter and 101 regarding baking a sourdough loaf. If nothing else, Jack answers many questions in his other videos regarding baking bread.

    • @LegionMizzy1
      @LegionMizzy1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timetravellingbunny3952 I'll check that channel out. Thank you for the suggestion.

    • @saialiyas614
      @saialiyas614 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Me. Run out of yeast and bread seems impossible to buy. Making my own starter

  • @ciaradawn8603
    @ciaradawn8603 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for posting this video! I have attempted to make a sourdough starter several times, and I could never figure it out. Thanks to your video, I rolled up my sleeves determined to make this work. I'm now at day 9 since starting this process, and your video taught me so much.
    I named my starter Clyde, and he is now part of the family. he's just our little "Addams family Thing." I feed him morning and night. When I fed him every 24 hours, he just smelled like alcohol, so I decided every 12 hours, and that did the trick. I made my first batch of discard onion bagels today and blueberry bagels tomorrow.
    I'm practicing for my new career as a professional sourdough artist. 😂 thanks again. I'm having a lot of fun learning this new hobby. Always a big fan of yours. 👍

  • @el1322
    @el1322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    5:30 bro spits straight fire. Listen to his beat

  • @ambermagnolia216
    @ambermagnolia216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +870

    Can you imagine going on vacation and asking someone to feed your sour baby every day?

    • @KnuxSD
      @KnuxSD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Maybe you can take it with you

    • @ginat.8064
      @ginat.8064 5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      You can keep it in the fridge and only feed it every 7 days and it will be fine.

    • @prccap
      @prccap 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      We bring it with us

    • @DawnKellyMedia
      @DawnKellyMedia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂

    • @LaurelCanyonMojo
      @LaurelCanyonMojo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      been there .. it died I was gone 3 weeks. S'ok started a new one

  • @djsadbean
    @djsadbean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Transcribed for me :D
    Supplies: Jar, Spatula, Scale, Thermometer
    Ingredients: Dark Rye Flour, All-Purpose Flour
    Day 1: Record weight of jar without a lid, 100g rye flour, 150g water at 85°F, mix with a spatula until all hydrated, cover with a loose-fitting lid.
    Day 2: Leave 70g of starter, add 50g rye flour, add 50g all-purpose flour, add 115g of water at 85°F, mix and cover.
    Day 3: Leave 70g of starter, add 50g rye flour, add 50g all-purpose flour, add 115g of water at 85°F, mix and cover.
    Day 4: Leave 70g of starter, add 50g rye flour, add 50g all-purpose flour, add 100g of water at 85°F, mix and cover.
    Day 5: Leave 70g of starter, add 50g rye flour, add 50g all-purpose flour, add 100g of water at 85°F, mix and cover.
    Day 6: Leave 50g of starter, add 50g rye flour, add 50g all-purpose flour, add 100g of water at 85°F, mix and cover.
    Day 7 (and forever): Leave 25g of starter, add 50g rye flour, add 50g all-purpose flour, add 100g of water at 85°F, mix and cover.
    Feed once a day forever and ever :]

  • @Cheyennejoy_
    @Cheyennejoy_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this video is old prob never see this Josh. but I just got into Starters and sourdough recently and I was having trouble with my starter bc I followed someone else's recipe. for 5 days I didn't see any action then I tried THIS AMAZING recipe and BOOM he's alive! already one night and I see a massive progress. Thank you so much Josh!

  • @angiebarbikon
    @angiebarbikon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    You deserve more subs, like your videos,skills and humor are on point. Keep up with it 👏🏻

    • @JoshuaWeissman
      @JoshuaWeissman  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Andjela Obradović thank you so much! 🙏😭

  • @hugodevos3515
    @hugodevos3515 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you a lot for this recipe. Was of great help to me and took away my fear for sourdough.
    If I may, I came up with an alternative procedure that made the feeding process even more easy than it already is. You only need a second jar:
    Instead of clearing all but 25 g of starter from your jar, I transfer 25 g to a second jar and feed it in there. Then I just totally clear out the first jar and clean it (thoroughly) with my daily dishes. The next feeding I just transfer 25 g back into the first jar and so on...
    As far as I could notice this procedure did not harm the quality of my culture so far (I am using this method for around 3 weeks now). I just make sure that before transferring to the second jar I briefly stir the starter in order to make sure I get a homogeneous spoonful of starter.
    Of course, everyone needs to find out themselves what works for them, but because to me this method works better for me I would like to share it.

    • @phlox3848
      @phlox3848 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      J' avais posé une question plus haut je pense que j' ai eu ma réponse.. merci

  • @magencrisis1682
    @magencrisis1682 5 ปีที่แล้ว +565

    It´s 1 AM and I'm making my first sourdough starter because I've just found this video and I have nothing else to do

    • @magencrisis1682
      @magencrisis1682 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Okay so it's been a week and its looking pretty good.

    • @mendy5453
      @mendy5453 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What about now?!!

    • @lightningbug3189
      @lightningbug3189 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What about now?

    • @ErdnußRiegel6969
      @ErdnußRiegel6969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And now?

    • @vanessa.garcia13
      @vanessa.garcia13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      hey i have a question. so when you made your starter did is smell bad ?? bc i’ve just made mine, it rose really well but smells pretty bad and i was just wondering if that’s normal

  • @Youraveragefoodiee
    @Youraveragefoodiee 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I’m commenting this on day 7 - everything worked out perfectly even though I thought it wouldn’t - I’m so excited to start baking with my starter 😍😍😍

  • @rosybee8566
    @rosybee8566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I have watched this many, many, m a n y times. I have come to the conclusion I shall never feel ready and so it’s now or never. Good luck to me and papa bless.

    • @stankyrearend
      @stankyrearend 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Foot Soldier over here lol

    • @chrisz.9974
      @chrisz.9974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How’s it going?

    • @rosybee8566
      @rosybee8566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrisz.9974 Terrible 😂
      It was going so well and then it got mouldy so I had to trash it.

    • @oliviajimenez1404
      @oliviajimenez1404 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rosybee8566 Watch Ben Starrs videos on sour dough starter. Simpler and he covers issues like spoiling and when to feed it.

  • @RichardKnocker
    @RichardKnocker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This young man is a genius! Super simple, well communicated. I hope I can resuscitate my ailing starter now and give it the attention it so richly deserves

  • @_brittrr
    @_brittrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am just now starting my bread making journey! My love for bread is insane and I've put this off for years because I know once I get it, I won't stop LOL Thank you for this video! Exactly what I was looking for was something like this with the right information! you are awesome!

  • @TheTboarder
    @TheTboarder ปีที่แล้ว +6

    First time making a starter and my first time making sourdough bread, in fact, I'm a complete beginner in baking and this was an absolute success, thank you!
    It's colder weather here at the moment, but the starter was up and crazy active by the end of the 3rd day. I kept the feeds up on a 24-hour schedule using wholegrain and bread flour but had to change the ratio of flour to accommodate for an overly active strain which was creating potent-sour-smelling acid faster than I could feed it. Had huge success with my first loaf, once I was happy the sour acidity had leveled out on day 7. Thanks Joshua!

  • @shi90s
    @shi90s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I can confirm, wet flour mixtures like that do in fact turn into bombs. I learned the hard way when no one wanted pancakes, I didn't want to waste the batter, and it was forgotten about. I still occasionally find a spec of dried batter and that was like almost two years ago. It went everywhere. 😂

    • @Jarrettmonty99
      @Jarrettmonty99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Like you just let it sit in a mason jar and the glass and everything exploded?? I could see you know unscrewing the lid and it pops off early, but that sounds kind of awesome

    • @blackhawkswincup2010
      @blackhawkswincup2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Reminds me of my mother-in-law. She once cooked three chickens in a pressure cooker, and the relief valve jammed. Good thing no one was in the kitchen when it blew up. They cleaned forever, but found pieces of chicken for years...

    • @shi90s
      @shi90s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Jarrettmonty99 It was in a glass container with a metal lid and when I went to dispose of it the lid exploded out of hand, and it sprayed everywhere like a shaken whine bottle.

    • @Escapeofthebride777
      @Escapeofthebride777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh my! I’m still cleaning out our garage refrigerator from where my son stashed his extra pancake batter! It was an explosion in there and I’ll never get it all cleaned out!

  • @LK-on6rw
    @LK-on6rw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Omg when I was younger (under age of 10 probably) (I’m saying “I” but my sisters did it too) I used to make “at home play doh” with flour and water (It obviously wasn’t actually like play doh but it was fun to play with) and I would put it in a jar to play with the next day and it would always grow like 3x and smell AWFUL the next day and now I have more of a knowledge on gluten/yeast etc and this video reminded me of that memory omg

    • @lauratownsend6850
      @lauratownsend6850 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      hahahah. That's pretty funny. You were a little mad scientist and didn't even know it.
      I remember my cousin and me sneaking some of her mom's real sugar for our "mud cakes." Then of course we had to actually taste them. (We were deprived, raised by parents who didn't believe in letting their kids eat sweets.)

    • @neildavidson4102
      @neildavidson4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      All that added bacteria from your hands made it smell rotten!

  • @Sean-mr2vs
    @Sean-mr2vs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    “It’s like a son but way better”
    I took that personally

    • @lobodo988
      @lobodo988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol, i ignored that. My son taught me how to play mmo's. Sourdough can't do that HA

  • @Wisienka558
    @Wisienka558 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have followed your steps, and my starter is perfect. I have made few breads so far using it, and they were like from the real artisan bakers shop.
    Super thank you! 🎉

  • @stchung449
    @stchung449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've been watching this vid for more than 10 times and I'm trying to make my starter now! But I still come back here every single day after i fed my starter to make sure I'm doing it right!

    • @108wee
      @108wee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hows your starter?

    • @stchung449
      @stchung449 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@108wee it went great! Just follow his recipe. It works perfectly

  • @nickbert11
    @nickbert11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You are easily my favorite new youtuber find of 2021! You have extremely good content and it’s very apparent that you try very hard at your job. Thank you.

  • @eringoody
    @eringoody 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This video is exactly the explanation I was looking for. I had followed a starter recipe from the kitchn that had said regular bleached AP flour was fine so I am def starting over with this new info. Thanks and keep at 'er! This was great!

    • @JoshuaWeissman
      @JoshuaWeissman  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      eringoody Thank you so much for letting me know that! Sounds like it’s time to start afresh! So happy to help! 😁

  • @renam9296
    @renam9296 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I started one 3 days ago and dude within the first 24 hours we had massive growth, and a ton of bubbles. And we actually forgot to feed it till today (the third day) and it's doing great. It's probably 2/3rd the size of the initial stage. Just did the first feeding and I have a feeling by day 7 we're gonna have a great little starter. Thank you, that was really easy.

  • @ninb9
    @ninb9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve watched so many videos and got tired after 2 minutes. Yours however, very fun to watch and amazingly thorough explanation got me to start my starter! Thank you and best wishes! X

  • @thatjerseyb
    @thatjerseyb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I just started my own sourdough starter last month. with bleached allpurpose flour not knowing it was bleached... it worked out perfectly fine.

    • @mariaclaire9388
      @mariaclaire9388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mine is also bleached all purpose and my little Jimmy loves me! He giggles and bubbles non-stop 🥰
      I always tell him not to pay attention to haters & snobs.
      He is no different from anyone else! 🤣

    • @hrodvithit
      @hrodvithit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's not that it's impossible, it's just that it's less likely. I had a starter take about a week to get started using bleached, and it never saw the type of gains this guy has.

    • @thatjerseyb
      @thatjerseyb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hrodvithit nobody said it was?

    • @Jarrettmonty99
      @Jarrettmonty99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what kind of temp did you keep it at (or location in your house)?

    • @thatjerseyb
      @thatjerseyb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jarrettmonty99 my house stays between 68 and 73. I kept it on my kitchen island or on top of my fridge

  • @hayleynachtigal338
    @hayleynachtigal338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    I was on day 3 with my first starter and she was bubbly, I was excited, going to feed her for the first time and my husband preheated the oven to 400 with my starter in there 🥲 (I keep it by the light bc my house is cold and I’m in WI). I was so upset. Here’s to #2! 😂

    • @gemrouf
      @gemrouf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      He was probably jealous of the love and attention you gave your starter. Find a new husband, they are easier to replace.

    • @RastaPilot737
      @RastaPilot737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      F

    • @tlynn7043
      @tlynn7043 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh no. This is my worst fear. I made signs and taped them on the oven. DON’T KILL THE STARTER!!!!
      The oven is the only place my starter seems happy.

    • @lindastradley9788
      @lindastradley9788 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​, Thank goodness my husband hasn't figured out how to use the double oven on my new stove!

    • @SAM57119
      @SAM57119 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm still in my "research" mode RE: all things sourdough bread. My house is cold so I did an experiment yesterday ... my microwave with door resting to close so the light is on is 75° (no towel) and 79° with a kitchen hand towel hanging over to cover the gap from door not being closed. That's the ideal temp range to start starter or wake up starter to use out of the fridge, correct?

  • @msMJ64
    @msMJ64 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy crap! So a little back story, I got a starter from my boyfriend family for Christmas. It wasn't very active, but liked being in my oven with the light on. Well... I killed it. Turned on the oven to bake a pie crust and forgot it was in there. Fast forward, I needed a new starter. I ran to Josh's manual here. I am getting ready to do my 3rd feed today but Holy crap! This one is so active! It had a huge rise and fall the first night, and last night it more than DOUBLED. I was afraid the jar wasn't gonna be big enough! This new one is super active, and I'm not even using the rye. I'm using organic whole wheat!!! Thank you so much for this guide josh!!!

  • @sergioonofrejunior927
    @sergioonofrejunior927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm watching this for the third time. I believe I'm going to start my starter tomorrow. Fingers crossed it works! Thanks man, for the videos.

  • @McSabbie11
    @McSabbie11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just started mine this week. I know this is a old video but this makes me feel like my starter is normal. I was reading a ton of forums of how it should look and got me concerned til I watched this

  • @heykyu5892
    @heykyu5892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    “How to take care of pet yeast”

    • @billiev8705
      @billiev8705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HEY KYU Sourdough Tamagotchi!

  • @LD-qj2te
    @LD-qj2te 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not long winded at all !! 20 minutes for a new thing in your life is so cool. i have been into artisanal breads so cool

  • @whenfahbakes500
    @whenfahbakes500 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    OMG!! Not only that i love the details explained in the video, but i also love the color grading, the composition, background music, everything actually! Keep up the good work!!

  • @candylyman6429
    @candylyman6429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Worked great! Best starter ever. The first day was so active, maybe because I ground my own rye flour. I had it in the oven with the light on. It was too cold in the house. The second day it was over flowing the jar.
    Who knew how easy it was to make a starter! Thanks so much!

  • @thespicyrose
    @thespicyrose 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Joshua, I can’t tell you how much this video has helped me. Thank you for being so thorough! My sourdough is finally successful!! 🙏

    • @asiaborucka8634
      @asiaborucka8634 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello :) How old was your starter when you made your first loaf? 7 days or older?

  • @michaelcarabello4065
    @michaelcarabello4065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    62 year old; been cooking for years, first endeavor into the world of making home made bread.
    5 out of 5 Stars on your method; teaching style and of personality.
    Thanks for making my journey so much more enjoyable!!!!!

  • @blueowl9327
    @blueowl9327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Big fan of your channel, for a pretty long time now. Just a suggestion, please lower the volume of the background music, it's hard to hear you. Keep going, can't wait for the 500k subs!

    • @busybeenation
      @busybeenation 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      agree. Just turn off the background music. And hold steady on the face zoom. I am here for the information. Not your complexion. I also think it could be less tech and more simple for my tiny brain. But seriously thankyou . good information.

    • @blueowl9327
      @blueowl9327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@busybeenation I like this guy and it's entertaining to watch but I hear you about the editing... However the background music is my first (only) problem because I have to strain my ears to hear the words. He's great though, love the content to bits!

  • @joanneleblue6549
    @joanneleblue6549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    As someone that is hearing impaired it is really hard to hear you over the music. Love the detail in the video.

    • @madelineslater1679
      @madelineslater1679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I generally turn on subtitles

    • @cathytrunek1430
      @cathytrunek1430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree that the music and rhythm is too loud and distracting

    • @emilymcintosh2675
      @emilymcintosh2675 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. I usually have subtitles on and thought they would be my saving grace, but no dice. The music is so loud that the auto-generated captions can’t detect human speech

  • @julietaylor1835
    @julietaylor1835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What can I say. Have been waited by to make my own sourdough bread forever - NOW I CAN. Will be toasting you with a good Merlot. THANK YOU SO MUCH Joshua - I’m sure your mums very proud of you - I’m a great grandmother and I’m proud of you too. 😘

  • @effacalorie
    @effacalorie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Awesome video ☺️ worked in a bakery that made sourdough and we kept ours in a big plastic tub, added lukewarm water eyeballed straight from the tap and a scoop of flour, also not measured. Stir with gloved arm. Haha. They're pretty resilient!

  • @groovydakota
    @groovydakota 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    this has been 100% helpful in a quarantine when all the dry yeast has been sold out everywhere 👌👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 thank youuuu

    • @93midnightsunrise
      @93midnightsunrise 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Literally about to post that same comment. I'm down to my last ounce of yeast and everywhere is OUT!

    • @JNYC-gb1pp
      @JNYC-gb1pp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All the flour is gone too.

    • @SiegePerilousEsauMaltomite
      @SiegePerilousEsauMaltomite 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I still have old ass yeast in the fridge that still works

    • @craigmouldey2339
      @craigmouldey2339 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rural Haliburton Ontario. First it was the toilet paper. Now there is no yeast to be found. Ok, so it isn't hard to make it. I have to find out how to use it. Happy camping.

    • @haraldschuster3067
      @haraldschuster3067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With sweet things, sourdough isn't quite the best. You can easily make yeast with yeast water from water, organic dried fruit and organic honey. After 3 -4 days you have something you can bake with and the slightly sweet and fruity note usually goes well with Brioche or other wheat doughs meant for sweet things.

  • @benthacker4164
    @benthacker4164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My starter was doing ok but i started to follow your method straight from day 5 and its flourishing now compared to before 😁

  • @PossumMedic
    @PossumMedic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +384

    My dad missed my graduation... he said he had to feed his sour dough 😥

    • @emv1237
      @emv1237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That sucks😂😂😂

    • @stankyrearend
      @stankyrearend 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol what?

    • @lokisg3
      @lokisg3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Bro, your father is taking care his favorite son. You're own brother!

    • @justine8955
      @justine8955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bro hahaha

    • @nancee8888
      @nancee8888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hilarious. Sourdough is more important than you. Cruel 😝😂

  • @BK-zy6lw
    @BK-zy6lw ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so thankful to have just received a starter that is over 100 years old, we baked with it yesterday and it was the best bread I have ever had and it was our first loaf

  • @trabajaba
    @trabajaba 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks for explaining that the starter basically replaces the dried yeast. Ever since I saw the b99 episode I thought sourdough starter was the dough. Also the editing slayed me ded

    • @JoshuaWeissman
      @JoshuaWeissman  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cindy Wong so happy I could make it a little more understandable! That was definitely one of my goals for this video. 😊

  • @maxnoerenberg6370
    @maxnoerenberg6370 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I used to make sour dough .....back at my first place it was too cold to get the dough to ferment and then rise.....so it didnt work!
    I never heated my place even in winter.
    But when I worked at a coffeeshop I brought a batch of my sour dough mix to work and let it sit all day.......and sure the miracle happens....within one day the bubbles formed! And the sour dough was made!
    So having a warm place is key to grow your sour dough!!

    • @scharscharbinks4239
      @scharscharbinks4239 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it is winter where I live and I had no activity leaving my starter out, but after 5 hours under the oven light, it started to bubble and rise.

    • @nutriformbynicoleeid8964
      @nutriformbynicoleeid8964 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool info thank uu was just wondering...

  • @PaniasPantry
    @PaniasPantry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This video came at the perfect time. I'm making my very first starter today. Valuable informational! Thank you!

  • @Theultrazombiekiller
    @Theultrazombiekiller ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Remember to not give up if your starter is slow to get going. Sometimes it can take 15 days or so before its ready. Mine rose on the second day drastically with the false start (bad bacteria) and then it took 12 days of feeding before it rose again signaling it was ready. 12 days of just minimal bubbling, you will think you messed up. But then one day you walk into your kitchen and it has blown the lid off and smells like sourdough :)

    • @leobergstrom893
      @leobergstrom893 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am on my second day now and it has risen so much so I thought maybe I could just skip to the seventh day and be done but maybe it isn’t that easy.

    • @Theultrazombiekiller
      @Theultrazombiekiller ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leobergstrom893 Its not ready, that is whats called a false start. Basically it means it has the wrong type of bacteria. You need to keep feeding it daily for at least a week. It would make terrrible bread if you tried it right now.