Thank you for this story well researched video!. What happens if Brittany's dad were to die? Also, what if she really is deeply unhinged, as in she would buy a hot coffee just to throw it into someone's face etc.?
Wileyfox No1Fan Some person said it would probably be her sister or brother getting the guardianship instead. I dont think they necessarily go to court to review the case if it had been in the nearest past. I dont know anything about it though, but considering how corrupt this issue is, it is what I would consider could happen.
once again ' the land of the free' proves it is not. there is no equivalent process in the UK , short of someone remaining on an Mental Health Act Section
I cannot remember who said it but there is a famous quote and I know I’m paraphrasing but it’s along the lines of “that which you cannot criticize is what controls you”. So if Britney isn’t allowed to speak up about the conservatorship that was done absolutely for a reason. The same goes for a job where you have to sign “happiness contracts” stating that you’ll never say anything bad about the business and they’ll sue you or fire you if you do, or oppressive governments where people are not allowed to speak out, or demonstrate against those in power for fear of violence. They have her voice under lock and key for a reason.
Doesn't it really say everything about what the mentality is of those around her? They've basically gaslit her into control and submissivness based on minor things like being a bad driver. Other celebrities have killed people with cars. He said "Is she going to make reservations for herself?" as if every other celebrity doesn't have an assistant to do that for them.
He’s never gone to the west part of the world. There’s men driving like idiots behind the wheel of a mustang. My mom said that two men died in front of her apartment complex bc they were acting like idiots behind a wheel. Passenger flew out of the car dead at the scene, the driver was dead in his seat. Bad drivers are all over the place.
I'm 38, just like Britney, and my son was taken from me because of my then undiagnosed autism. I've been trying to get him back for 9 years now, but the diagnosis which was supposed to (and did to an extent) help me get better is now standing between me and my child. Anything I say in my defense can be waved away with "oh she doesn't know what she's saying, poor dear". This is disregarding how I'm pretty much single-handedly taking care of my mother who is sick with cancer, how I have always handled myself in every single other aspect of life, and how my son cries with grief every single time I'm forced to send him back to his carers after his home visits. So. Free Britney. And give all of us a more hopeful future.
Lady Drace I’m so sorry to hear that. I sincerely hope you’ll get him back. Why can’t your capacity be evaluated by an unbiased expert?! The system is so flawed.
The fact that she A) can’t speak about the conservatorship, B) can’t do interviews that aren’t pre-scripted and C) can’t hire her own lawyer scream that there’s something very fishy and very illegal going on behind the scenes, and it’s utterly disgusting
Nope, perfectly legal. The laws and system are wrong. The attorneys wrote the laws. This can happen to anyone, including you , tomorrow. You don't need to have any disability, just assets. th-cam.com/video/AebToS5erkE/w-d-xo.html www.blogtalkradio.com/hiddentruthrevealed stopguardianabuse.org/
The baby on her lap situation was when Britney was leaving a shopping centre, with no security. Her car was surrounded by paparazzi and she was alone with her baby. She fleed the situation by holding her baby on her lap. It’s not as if she was out for a leisurely cruise. She was harassed by dozens of men surrounding her with cameras. She had to act quickly for the safety and well-being of herself and her child. That’s important to include when reciting the incident.
Also her uncle shared this story about Britney's father being drunk and deciding to drive his car with 4 year old Britney on it, her uncle had to fight Jamie to stop him while baby Britney screamed and cried. Britney's sister let her daughter drive a ATV which almost resulted in her death and nobody questioned Britney's father or her sister. It's infuriating.
Same with the incident where she was lambasted for "almost dropping" her baby. Yeah, she almost dropped the baby while literally fleeing a mob of paparazzi, who then sold the footage of it to tabloids who turned it into 'Britney is a terrible mother' rather than 'our photographers almost injured an infant due to their harrassing its mother.
She can’t even tell anyone what’s happening because she can be sent to jail.... that should not be a thing. Also the fact that she can’t hire a lawyer.... that’s absurd!
Also, her appointed lawyer, Sam Ingham, whom she cannot fire, has a lawsuit against him for conspiring to kill US radio legend Casey Kasem for financial gain. According to Billboard, he showed up at the Kasem's house with an armed guard to force Kasem, who was in his eighties and living with dementia, into a conservatorship. His wife vehemently protested his being taken away (and they call her crazy, of course), but less than a month later when Kasem's daughter was able to visit him, his health had declined so rapidly that he was close to death. His widow filed the lawsuit accusing Ingham of conspiring with his older children to isolate him so he would die for their financial gain. Ingham made large amounts of money off of the family in legal fees. This is the person who was chosen as Britney's lawyer. He's never going to let her go willingly
Serial killers don't make boatloads of money for people like Britney does. And yeah, they definitely have more rights than she does. She's basically a very productive milk cow.
@@purplekittigaming it’s disgusting honestly this is not what Britney deserves!! She didn’t write slave for u to be a golden goose for people praying on her downfall
Wait, if she had early onset dementia, at that age, she should be incapacitated now. I smell something fishy... That diagnosis needs to be contested and she needs to have her rights restored immediately.
It's more likely she had memory issues rather than alzheimer's from either mental illness or possibly a B12 deficiency, which mimics alzheimer's to the point doctors misdiagnose low B12 as alzheimer's
@@impishrebel5969 Alzheimer's Disease isn't the only form of dementia, just so you know. I'd wager a lot of "regular" doctors aren't really aware of the B12 problem, at least in the US, because very few American doctors are taught anything about nutrition.
@@jwb52z9 Which is ironic because any odd behaviour, pain, etc in young healthy looking women and teenage girls in the UK is typically treated with a round of deficiency blood tests (Iron, B12, vitamin D) followed by supplements and/or a hormonal contraceptive. You need to clearly have a proposed condition in order to get a real diagnosis or even move towards one first time.
The poor girl isn't even allowed to discuss politics on her own social media (her handlers made her delete a pro-Hillary post). Even literal children have that right! But Brittany isn't allowed to publicly express an opinion!
My wife admires you greatly. She is blind in right eye and losing her hearing. As a gay disabled woman she thinks you are amazing and you are a great inspiration to her.
I've always found it sketchy the men who live off her money can tell the court she's not capable of taking care of her own money. Seems like a conflict of interest at the very least.
Not to mention that lawyer saying he did well, by growing her fortune by $20m. But he worked for her (dad) for years! She earned over $100m a year. Where did all of that money go? Saying her fortune has grown by $20m is a bad thing when it should I’ve grown by hundred of millions in that time.
I have some distant relatives who are using their disabled grandpa with brain damage to get his money for stuff and he is usually left hungry and unwashed. Since he has brain damage (I think it's from stroke but I totally forgot) he personally has a thing that he fixates on and that's traveling from town to town and they leave him unmonitored and once he was missing for 2-3 days and they found him on the road, almost dead from freezing. I'm so disgusted by ableism in my country....
"Her estate is hugely wealthy and very complicated to manage." So is that of many wealthy people. That's why financial advisors exist. You don't need a legal guardian to calculate the income from national tours and albums sales and movies. You need an accountant.
Yep. Also the whole "oh, she doesn't know how to drive or do this and that". Well, she can hire a driver. Or hire somebody to teach her to drive better. She can hire people to help her. Also, if it was really about helping her, then why not slowly teach her after she got better? Her father could have just slowly get her into the business side until she was actually capable of managing it. And if she happened to hire a bad person at some point for something? Well, that sucks, but that's also how you learn. You reflect on what possible red flags you missed, what you should have looked for and you learn.
So Britney has supposedly has had ~early onset dementia~ since her twenties without having any break in her work schedule??? That's absolutely ridiculous. #FreeBritney
Early onset dementia yet miraculously can memorize lyrics and choreography for financially successful world tours and sold out shows in Vegas. It’s so upsetting.
And I don’t get why her team really doesn’t seem to get that the worse off they try to make her look mentally, the more incompetent it makes them look. Like who tf lets someone with dementia SO severe that she can’t pick her own boyfriend do years long residencies in Vegas and work nonstop for over a decade? They’re either frauds or grossly incompetent, there is no in between where they look good in this.
@@AN-bo5ej typically. But there are cases of early onset dementia setting in a person's 30s. I watched a terribly sad documentary of a woman who died when she was 32. That being said OBVIOUSLY she doesnt have dementia. Maybe severe mental illness caused by trauma/family abuse (dissociation) but that is not dementia. Her father is pure evil!
Yeah, if she has dementia, I want to know what super drug they've got her on because she's doing better than any other patient on the planet. I have known people with early onset dementia - they can go from still being able to hold a coherent conversation, and needing some supervision but not 24/7 care, to not being able to walk, being aggressive, unmanageable and needing round the clock watching in a matter of years, sometimes less. And while my grandmother wasn't early onset, she went from 'confused' to 'danger to herself' in a year or two. It's been what? 20 years? And Britney's performing, interviewing, coherent. At this point that's not even 'slow going' dementia, that's 'miracle cure'.
I'm autistic, dyslexic and have PTSD/depression: I don't drive because people seem to resist the idea of driving properly. So I just use public transportation.
My brother has an acquired brain injury and isn't able to wash his hands without help, is under our mothers guardianship, and he still has his basic human rights, because mum listens to him and considers what he wants as a priority. Britney is not respected by her so called father at all, it makes me so angry.
What I don't understand is that under a conservatorship her Dad can actually take a salary. This should be ABSOLUTELY illegal. It puts any person in danger of being exploited. All the proceeds that she earns should be put into a trust for her and all proceeds should be used for her medical care. The person in control of her assets should not make a dime of her. This rings of how in the past husbands could have their wives committed to steal their inheritance.
Yeah that confuses me too. I can understand a conservator being in charge of the person's finances. I can understand the conservator perhaps being reimbursed by the government or someone if they need to give full time care and thus can't bring in enough income to support themselves and the person they are caring for. But how on earth is it legal to draw an income from someone whose finances you have complete legal control over? And then get to dictate how much your income should be on top of that? It seems like a pretty serious flaw in the system.
Or in the instance where a salary is needed (since I’d imagine there are genuine conservatorships where caring for that person is basically a full time job) it has to be a regulated, established rate that can only be adjusted using legal pathways, proving that its necessary due to a, b, or c reason. Getting to establish your own salary, give yourself raises, etc is out of the question and unacceptable.
fun fact: often it was sons who were committed in order to get inheritance. Women too, but men with money and instability were a target too. There’s some great books about aslyum history out there worth reading.
@@PrettyPinkPeacock Yeah, probably mostly a woman who was married already was under full control of her husband, and unless her money was legally protected from her husband there was no way for her to keep anything from him.
Due to some disability you are forced to either lose your medical coverage if you work or have a conservatorship and have a trust in someone else’s name
HELLO??? Is that not EVERY EARTHLING? Know I'm "DISABLED" but... Isn't EVERY LIFE in NEED of this? Is it ONLY THE "DISABLED" ??? Can ANYTHING LIVE without a PROPER SUPPORT SYSTEM? Sorry, just seems BASIC to me but maybe I'm missing something?
Renay E some dont need to rely on ppl daily so no. Well most people do well with a support system there are many people who are a support system or someone else or do not really rely on someone or a group of people daily and weekly or monthly to get by
Britney Spears treats her children with such respect because she doesn't want her children to experience what she did and she can't even see her children.
100% This situation reeeeally reminded me of historical situations where women were fraudulently incarcerated in mental hospitals under supposed "hysteria" diagnoses, in order for their families or spouses to grab their inheritances or financial assets. It's frankly horrifying.
The fact that Britney's father is able to get away with this even under scrutiny and backlash, is genuinely scary for all disabled people living in the US, and just for all people in general.
This sounds dangerously like ownership over a person. Being able to say who they see, what happens with their money, their time, their property, ect, is wholly ownership. Britney, or anyone, shouldn't be punished as such for poor mental health- especially when that mental health is made poor because of this messed up system we live in.
And this is happening to so many people who are not in a position to get public support. It’s a sad thing that many abusive family members do to other families members. Not to mention the host of domestic situations involving financial abuse.
Not having her own lawyer is my one big flapping red flag. It should be 100% illegal for a person in this circumstance to not have either their own counsel or a fully independent lawyer or advocate appointed by the Court.
Clearly this is comparable to someone with depression being punished for a suicide attempt. You never, ever, EVER punish someone for having a mental illness or disability.
Well, thank heavens we have someone who knows better than her family...or the courts...or doctors -- all without having spoken to her, or having any known psychiatric training -- here to save the day.
@@floraposteschild4184 there's been so much data on this topic from those in her inner circle, and that's what's now being discussed more broadly so it's not just a baseless opinion
She was a pageant and show kid to make money for her poor parents. She has always been a cash cow IMHO. Also, her original soulful deeper voice was amazing. Would be great if she could find it again. I love Britney and still rooting for her
She tried to release an album with her original voice (especially because the fake one she's been doing has caused her damage!) but when the record companies found out it was going to be her real voice they refused to release it. Its pretty awful that she can't even release the music she wants to release.
this conservatorship mumbo jumbo feels an awful like victorian era womans rights to manage their own estate and must have some sort of male guardian to open a bank account, manage property etc. its crazy!
Given that disabled people are 2-4 times more likely to be abused, and a disturbing amount of that is from family or guardians, the thought that abusers can literally set it up so that it's illegal for the victim to escape them in any way is so deeply terrifying.
Sounds like nothing more than a criminal operation run by narcissistic, sociopathic, psychopathic sadists aimed at exploiting a rich, influential person.
My dad was more sick than she currently is and has more rights. My mom is in charge of a lot of things for him but he still has a lot of autonomy. Passing out in the middle of the store and being in a fog 24/7 for 8 years and still has more rights than Britney.
Ace Pixie Same goes for my aunt. She is under a much needed guardianship, and has more rights than Britney does. I know we will never get the full story, but I do hope the situation for Britney is evaluated and changed for the better.
My grandmother has dementia to such a degree that she sometimes doesn't even recognise her own daughters and she has a lot more liberty and rights than Britney Spears.
My uncle has a severe mental disability, making his ability to make desisions comparable with a todler. Nothing wrong with that, he is a great person and very happy with his life. He also is under guardianship, but he still has the right to vote..
I'm just gonna explain this since I spoke to my dad about this today: the guardianships where the person still has rights it's because the guardianship is done out of a place of love, respect, and concern. In the case of Britney it was most likely done out of a place of wanting power, money, or both.
F E but it’s the truth hopefully the more people who know the more help people like Brittney can get to get out of these toxic conservatorships The family only cares about the cash she will bring in and if she quits they’ll lock her up for no longer being useful
Honestly it’s ableist but it’s also very misogynistic. If any similarly able bodied famous man were put into someone else’s control like this the courts wouldn’t hesitate to free him. This makes you realize how easy it is for even powerful women to be seen as “incompetent” for even the suggestion of mental impairment, meanwhile a comparable man would be (and often is) seen as “eccentric”.
She was a child star. Her father has made money off of her since she was 4 years old and then when she has a breakdown that's the man they choose as her guardian?! Her kids will be adults soon, hopefully they can at least get the guardianship. We don't know her mental state maybe she does need someone to take care of her finances but that someone should not be the one person who has made her a celebrity before puberty.
it's the fact that her own children has a restraining order against him, he gets a pay check for this, and that Britney's mother said that the conservatory that makes me very uncomfortable. How can the court allow this and I had no idea that this is what is going on in my own country.
", and that Britney's mother said that the conservatory that makes me very uncomfortable." and that Britney's mother said that the conservatory ... that makes me very uncomfortable I think there's something missing in your statement and I'd like to know what it was you were intending to write.
My biodad threatened to do this when I accepted a marriage proposal from a guy who -- GASP -- hadn't asked his permission first. So glad my in-laws (who I now see and refer to as my adoptive parents) stepped in and stood up for me. I would not have survived this kind of situation. Would not.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 I mean there are people who can't get restraining orders against people who actively threaten to physically harm them. The amount of time, money, and paperwork to probably just get rejected isn't really worth it for me. I just refuse to go to family functions that he attends, and have a ride ready to leave ASAP if he shows up.
@@camelopardalis84 Half of them were there when he made the threat. Biomom, ever the obedient conservative housewife, blocked my exit so he could finish his tirade. I came out to some more extended family members a couple years ago about several things ranging from my orientation to my history of abuse, and their response to every point was basically, "Yeah, we already knew that". Like, they didn't have details, but apparently he regularly tries his crap with them and they just look at him like, "We're older than you. You don't have any actually power over us. No. Back off." I'm not sure it occurred to them how bad he gets when he actually //does// have power over someone, but in any case they weren't surprised. They just generally keep their mouths shut to avoid drama.
If she does have "early onset dementia" she shouldn't have been "allowed" to go on tour or release albums. She should have carers and rights that every other human being should have.
Early onset dementia happens in your 50s or 60s. That is "early" compared to regular dementia where onset is more like at 80. "Early" doesn't mean onset is at any age lmfao so tired of seeing people throw this diagnosis around.
@@AN-bo5ej not to mention that even if it were possible to have early onset dementia in your 20s, we’d expect to see at least one sign of it within 12 years!
This whole thing is disgusting. I personally don’t listen to Britney’s music, but what she has been through has been nothing short of hell. Poor thing is a puppet.
I don't see how that is legal! Like...if Brittany is beaten, raped, etc while in her father's "care", she could get in trouble for calling the cops? Thats insane! I've met disabled adults under conservatorship because they had the mental capacity of a toddler. And they had more autonomy and rights than Brittany does!
But where is the psychologist/neurologist/doctor that has to say what is the extent of her disability and what help she needs?? No judge or relative should do that! It's insane.
The point on this: yeah we should be looking to doctors to make this judgement, and review them, and get second opinions. But we rely on judges with legal experience but nothing else. This is a huge problem in the states. I don't know about anywhere else. But we don't rely on the right people
@@seaborgium919 thing is, she got very convenient diagnose of dementia, which is degenerative (gets worse) and non-reversible. A transitory psychotic episode for example might have required periodic assessment. Dementia is definitive. But the system should have never allowed that to happen on the first place, there should be many evaluations across years. I'm afraid yes, sounds like it's corrupt and can be used to some people's benefit.
Under HIPAA laws, a doctor isn't legally allowed to discuss someone's medical history, without express consent given by the person being treated.And Britney isn't allowed to consent to anything without her FATHER'S consent, which if she isn't actually unstable, he obviously wouldn't give. And even a doctor he tries to pay off would likely not accept, as it would mean losing his license to practice and possible jail time if it ever came out that Britney HAD NOT consented to that doctor speaking to her medical history. Basically- Britney's Real Doctor: Get's permission from Britney to speak on her medical history. Father denies this permission and forbids the doctor from speaking. If the Doctor speaks out, they are in violation of HIPAA law, as the Father didn't consent to the information being revealed, Doctor loses his license and gets arrested. Fake Doctor: Gets paid by Father to lie about Britney's mental state and abilities. Britney herself never consents to this doctor speaking about her medical history. Even though the father gave his consent- his consent is only permission for BRITNEY HERSELF to consent. He cannot consent to releasing her medical history on her behalf. If Britney reveals she did not consent to the medical information being released, Doctor is in violation of HIPAA, etc etc, can no longer practice medicine. HIPAA is taken VERY seriously- peoples medical histories are one of the most protected things about them in the US. Basically the most any other doctor could do would be speculate from the outside about Britney's stability and ability to function. The moment they actually speak to her and ask her any questions about her mental health, that conversation is protected by HIPAA.
I feel that there's also a gender issue here. Many (MANY) male artists have had huge breakdowns and they weren't treated like children because of that. But, of course, women must always behave properly, lest they be considered 'crazy' or 'unstable' (sorry for using these words). P.S. Of course this is a complex issue, but I felt that gender may also be a factor taking part in it. By no means do I think being 'unstable' is inherently bad, nor do I believe the only reason for this is Britney being a woman.
This kind of ultimate power over someone's life in guardianship is a blatant human ownership to me. It's like being in prison for having disability. Having no freedom is horrible.
Some people need guardians though. I support adults with learning difficulties, they can’t even count, let alone look after month. They need to have legal guardians to keep them safe. It’s only an issue when the people who have legal guardians don’t actually need them.
@@mcbusted1985 That still doesn't mean that people should be legally forbidden to even talk about their conservatorship or hire a lawyer (if someone isn't able to, they won't do it, if they are, they should be allowed to).
As someone who has experienced psychosis first hand, Britney's story and struggle is one that has always struck me to my core. The notion that a family member could just decide to remove my autonomy and exploit poor mental health laws is terrifying. Especially since they're the reason I am so fucked up to begin with! Thank you, I'm so happy to have found this channel.
Absolutely we must save Britney, even if she has a disability she's still human and deserves rights like any other person, her father is abusing her for doing this
@@yttrxstein4192 how idiotic... Thats not how it works. The law is actively stopping her from being saved. It's sick, and not as simple as you seem to think.
@@yttrxstein4192 so no one's allowed to be vocal about problems they can't directly solve all by themselves? Being vocal about something can raise awareness and get the right people who can do something on the job. Staying silent in the face of injustice does literally nothing and is much worse. Yes, more can be done than just talking about it, but you're also allowed to express your opinion about a serious topic that you're passionate about even if you aren't sure how to help.
@@yttrxstein4192 Ok? Never said you couldn't comment, man. You were mocking someone for "impotently whining" as you said. And I told you my opinion on it. So you're going to tell me to "stop that" right before saying we can both say whatever we want? Yeah, I agee. That's why I commented.
@@yttrxstein4192 lol ok. I don't need your permission. just thought you were being unnecessarily rude to a stranger online because they wrote a comment about an issue they cared about. Why waste your time? No offense meant man but don't you have something better to do? sure, you could say the same thing about me, but you were rude first so I just felt like chiming in. have a good day (:
Many US states will let a 15 year-old drive on their own with nothing more than a written exam and a 1-hour driving lesson. Even if Britney hasn't driven in 12 years, she could take driving lessons, maybe even take her driving license again. Teenagers haven't driven EVER and they are still trusted behind a wheel.
It shouldn’t matter if she can drive or not ..she has money and can hire transportation and even if she didn’t have loads of money there are other ways she could get around. my grandfather is blind and for many years would leave the house and go into town by cab everyday by himself it wasn’t until he was put on oxygen and that he needed someone to go with him.
I feel like conservatorship would exacerbate a mental health problem, not ease it. Like, you want to put person with mental health problems even more on edge? Take away their freedoms.
In Denmark, people with a mental diagnosis can not be officially 'cured / healthy', and struggle to: adopt a child, become a pilot, fireman, police officer, sailor, or au-pair. People literally loose rights if they choose to seek help and get diagnosed.
I'm a big criticism of guardianship, but why on earth would there be a national registry for something that's largely decided based on a person's health status in some way? That's incredibly invasive.
@@autumnsirens To keep track of who is currently bound so severely by the court, for how long, and how their guardian is functioning? Allowing a person that level of control over another person is something that requires intense monitoring by a third party (and even a fourth party) to prevent abuse.
I genuinely feel bad for Britney I went through a similar thing where I had a major breakdown where I was unable to look after myself temporarily. I had spent all my money, owed the bank money, was dangerous to myself, etc. My parents took control of my bank and other elements of my life BUT the difference to what's going on with Britney is that my parents steadily gave me control back as I got better. When I was in recovery they started by allowing me to manage my own food, then going out, steadily increasing my allowance until I had complete control over my bank again. That's how the system is meant to work but it's true that far too many times that it's easy for people to corrupt for their own gain. I was really lucky my parents wanted the best for me and to support me to get better. But I genuinely worry for others who are now in a more stable place but can't get control of their lives back because of legal loopholes.
This does not surprise me in the slightest. In a country that legalised slavery the fact that you can legally make someone sub-human is not at all shocking. And yes, all prisoners are legally considered slaves.
A form of this exists in every country as I understand it, though sometimes by different names. I'm struggling with in Australia under Power of Attorney.
@@iliveonatropicalisland6086 the american prison system is a for profit system that pays judges with insentives to convict and harshly sentence even minor offences.
I'm not a guardian, but I work at a group home for people with neuropsychiatric and developmental disabilities, and my job is to communicate with their guardians about their economy, dentist appointments, hair dresser appointments, doctors appointments, medicine etc. My job is to do all that - and more - so that our klients can live a happy and fulfilling life and be as indepentent as possible. Denying someone their basic human rights and locking them away for months, just for buying a hamburger, ain't it.
I’m horrified and furious about this situation. If she’s able to earn millions every year, she’s capable of paying a good accountant to manage it and spending it as she damn well chooses. She’s been held captive and exploited in plain sight for so long now.
Ouch. I'm a middle aged man with power of attorney for my mother. I try hard to make the best decisions I can on her behalf. I have once had to make a decision against her will but it was to ensure her safety and well being. I hope I never have to do that again. While technically I am allowed to charge for my services in my opinion that's just not something you do to a family member.
OMG Im autistic with depression and anxiety and this sounds terrifying to me. Because of my experiences with ptsd and no one believing me when I say I can't do stuff I intend to make the law change, and finding out that they can have the power to take all my ability just to say that is terrifying, let alone my chances of actually getting people to listen, believe me, and then actually change it. Thank you for talking about this. I didn't know about it (and though I'm really scared now) it's good that I know. We love you Jessica!
I'm afraid for my little brother who lives with similar conditions. Our mother is currently his power of attorney and makes decisions he can't with input from him.
I'm a very non-expressive autistic individual. I'm otherwise "high-functioning" (of course, the exact level of 'functioning' can vary based on the day) and I can take care of myself fairly well. Still, the 'mood monitoring' thing just... damn.
During the documentary released in Feburary, the lawyer who Britney attempted to use during the beginning of the conservatorship said that during their meetings before the case Britney said she'd accept the temporary conservatorship as long as it wasn't her father controling it, practically begged for it not to be her father controlling it back then. They were not told til they got to the court date that she was not allowed to choose her own lawyer even pre-conservatorship which is also so suspicious
This is sad and scary to me as a person in general, but even more so as a person with a mental illness. I've always been terrified of having a breakdown so bad I'm no longer allowed to have my own autonomy. The chances of that happening to me are probably not that high, but just imagining what Brittney goes through is awful.
God I do not envy Britney at all. Regardless of what her mental health is like at a baseline, going through the things she did would take a massive toll on anybody. One of my worst fears is losing agency and control over my own decisions, so my heart absolutely goes out to her. She’s effectively a prisoner in her own home, with a conservator who clearly doesn’t have her interests at heart. I’m very glad you brought this up, Jessica. Mental health is such an important subject, and while she’s obviously a celebrity, she’s still human. She still has to struggle with mental health issues like the rest of us, and it’s unfair that she’s mocked and demonised as she has been. #FreeBritney
@@frijofrojsdeern9545 Just wanted to say that this comparison "get taken food away from them like children" is a pb because children shouldn't be treated like either.
Britney's situation breaks my heart.she is so abused just because of mental health problems that just need assistance not this total removal of her rights as a person. It also terrifies me,that here we have a huge public figure treated like this, so what chance do any other people have. The system is so badly stacked against people with disabilities and mental health problems. Especially mental health seems to remove your basic rights potentially forever.
As an attorney in the states, I just wanted to say in most states a conservatorship deals with the financial assets of a person and a guardianship deals with the person. Although a conservatorship can be extremely limiting as it robs the person of financial resources, it cannot force unwanted medical care or imprisonment on a person the way a guardianship has the power to do. A conservator can financially blackmail a person in unwanted situations. Often time a conservatorship is much easier to obtain. In my practice I have seen some real abuses of the conservatorship law. Thanks for making this video!
Rebekah Squires Yes you can file for both at the same time. That is often what happens which makes separating the two harder. The Court can even choose to grant one and not the other. Usually a conservatorship is granted rather than guardianship as burden of proof is lower. I had a case were the person demonstrated a lack of ability to understand math and the running of the rental properties her deceased husband left her, but she was still taking care of her personal self and therefore a conservatorship was granted but a guardianship was denied. A power of attorney can be a great tool as it can be narrowly tailored to the needs of the person. Generally a guardianship will void any power of attorney dealing with medical or personal matters and a conservatorship will void any power of attorney having to do with fiscal matters. Neither will void a will made before being declared incompetent. In my state, a person holding a power of attorney is given precedence under the law when the court appoints a guardian or conservator. Also in my state, the alleged incapacitated person must be represented by an independent attorney paid by the state before anything can happen. Each state has different rules.
terestand I have a question. How can there be a gag order against Britney speaking out about her guardianship/conservatorship? Isn’t that violating free speech?
Elena, #1 Bernie Bro I don’t practice in California. Everything I am about to say is generally applicable, but each state is free to make laws contradicting. Both conservatorships and guardianships are limits on your fundamental rights. It is well established that if there is a compelling state interest the government can abridge your freedoms. The normal example is yelling fire in a theater is illegal. Generally conservatorship and guardianships are sealed proceedings. Meaning no one can access the file or discuss details of the case outside the court unless ordered by the court or necessary for the progression of the case. This is seen as protecting the privacy of the individual being protected. Generally even with a sealed case the protected person and the guardian/conservatory are allowed to talk about the case just not any other party or the court. Under a guardianship the guardian can restrict access to the protected person and in doing so effectively limit their speech. Under a conservatorship I could see a lawyer making the argument that if she was allowed to speak freely she could say something that might damage her brand and earning opportunities and therefore she should be barred from making any public statements without approval. Without seeing the case file and reading the actual orders in place, I can’t say for certain what restrictions are in place and the court’s reasoning.
My cousin, who is a 23 year old man, is severely mentally disabled and there is not much he can do for himself outside of what a toddler is capable of. His mother is his caretaker and makes all important decisions for him but he still, somehow, has more rights than a 30 year old woman who is fully capable of making her own choices! My cousin doesn't even need a conservatorship, I don't think anyone does, honestly.
Remember in "the girl with the dragon tattoo" where Lizbeth basically had conservatorship placed on her and we were all appalled? This is that in real life!
"She can't drive." In the age of Uber and Lyft and Via and a million other such services. (I also don't drive. I live in New York. So I don't have to. lol)
Im always asked if im going to start driving (im 27) and i have a file on my phone that compairs the price of a convered car that i would be physacally able to drive + ensurance and all of the stuff that comes with car ownership with how much i spend a year on buss passes and the odd taxi and the fact is the buss to and from work is my alone time
Roni stitch I’m 27 too. My dad pays for a lot of stuff for me (his choice; it’s a long story) and he was super relieved that he wouldn’t be paying car insurance for me. Lol
I'm 27 and my disabilities would make it SUPER dangerous for me to drive. Guess what? I. CAN. STILL. TAKE. CARE. OF. MYSELF. Humans are fucking unbelievable
Exactly. I can't get my license due to my disability and I take the bus everywhere or ride my bike. My friends who drive told me that they're jealous because I do know how to take the bus.
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Yay. New Jessica video! And I am excited to learn more :) The only thing I never understood, if she was so sick she needed to be stripped off her rights...then why was she okay to go on tour, record albums and be at Vegas for like 4 years? It's not like she does simple shows like sitting on a chair and singing. She dances so it's a lot of work and you have to remember a lot. Also, I've worked with hundreds of people of dementia in all stages. None of them could carry a concert without getting confused, even the ones who have just been diagnosed once, let alone for years. So I find that hard to believe that she has dementia. One of it's hallmarks is that is effects memory but somehow she was able to learn her new album lyrics, her world tour routine and her vegas routine mmmm k? Also, if she wastes/spends a couple of thousands a month randomly... she is rich enough for it not to matter and could easily make millions through one album. So just let her spend her coin Jamie!
That's my main concern, is she ok to do all that work or has she been exploited for profit? Because I understand that she may be perfectly fit to run her own life but if she is not, how did the vegas show happened?
I think that it can probably be confidently stated that Britney most probably does not have dementia; she was supposedly diagnosed 12 or 13 years ago yet has been able to create new material & perform both new & old material for sustained periods, like on world tour & throughout a 4 year residency with no noticeable cognitive issues or deterioration? It's just not plausible. The entire situation sounds like a huge piece of manipulation & an abuse of her agency that benefits her father & enables him to continue scam her.
@@DavyHulme Yes. I think it's not plausible at all but I obviously don't have her medical notes. I know what dementia is and how it effects people. Like you said, it's been 13 years so you'd be able to tell she has it or see the signs when she is on video these days. Dementia is not a invisible disease. If you know the symptoms and signs, you can easily pick up when you're dealing with someone who has it. There have been many times that I've advised family members because a person is showing very early signs so they might need a check up to test for that or they might have a uti etc. I think her father is gross and is enjoying playing the millionaire with her money.
If I was judged based solely on my worst meltdown I'd come out looking pretty bad. At one point after going through periods of heavy disassociation and anxiety attacks basically any time I left my house I thought it would be a good choice to set my hair on fire ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ luckily I did not, but my fiance had to talk me out from under the kitchen table where I was hunkered down convinced my childhood abuser had somehow tracked me down. Two years later and I haven't had an episode in like a year and a half and I went through group therapy and am with a therapist I like a lot. If I was to be judged on the whole of these last two years that breakdown, while awful, was only one part of my life and the progress I've made since then. I think Britney has been used as a cash-cow by her father since she was a child and that man will do anything possible to keep her from having autonomy over her life.
@@adriennedoyle4482 my great grandmother was lobotomized. She died young of cervical cancer because she (understandably) was terrified of going to the doctor.
This reminds me of the Eugene Landy situation with Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys. He took advantage of Brian’s mental health struggles and abused his finances and over medicated Brian.
It's funny, I've never thought about my bipolar disorder as a disability, even though it has limited my life a lot for years, and I depend on aids (medication in my case) to live functionally. Makes sense It's actually good to put it in that light, because it emphasize how this is not me being lazy and coming up with excuses, but something real
Been in the 'I'm just lazy, not disabled'-mentality for a large portion of my life. Almost getting a burnout trying to keep up with my peers forced me to reassess a lot. Just because other people don't see the work you do in your head doesn't mean it isn't exhausting. I hope you are kind to yourself in that regard.
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ it can be hard to admit to, because I always felt like other people had things so much worse than me and that I was just using it as an excuse and wasn't trying hard enough, I know exactly where you are coming from ❤️❤️❤️ it's a different condition to your situation but I completely resonate with what you are saying ❤️❤️❤️
I've always thought of my bipolar disorder as a disability because it impairs my life at random, even if meds help 90% of the time. You are def not lazy or making excuses because we struggle with things not everyone has to.
Being told by my psychiatrist that my cyclothymia (bipolar type 3) was making me disabled, helped me a lot too. Like, no I'm not a failure because I can't be as productive, and participate to society the way non mentally ill/physically disabled persons, I'm just walking at my own pace, and that is ok. We always think about people who are physically paralyzed when we think "disability", but mental illnesses can paralyze you just as much.
I just watched the New York Times documentary on this topic and I just wanted to say while I do not condone driving with a baby on her lap, she was chased into the car by paparazzi who were banging on her windows. She just wanted to get away from them.
TW: trauma connected with medical personnel A few years ago I worked for an abusive man who liked to scream at me for "not doing my job" or not doing it properly, especially when I was reading a book or doing crosswords during the time when there were no clients. I was never very healthy in the mental health department. The year prior I was hospitalised for a suicide attempt, so I still had some leftover problems to work through. I am very prone to dissociation, so when I finally broke and went into a non-responsive, the worst dissociative episode of my life because he screamed at me one too many times the ambulance was called. When they arrived, they treated me like an animal. Mocked me, searched me for drugs, accused me of doing this for attention, openly laughed at me when I couldn't respond. Berated me during the drive to the hospital. I'm not scared of medical workers in general, but ambulance staff always terrifies me and since that moment when I had an emergency I never called an ambulance, preferring to call a cab or ask a friend. They genuinely cause me to have a panic attack.
It was honestly the most humiliating experience in my life. Medical staff tends to treat you like garbage if your illness is not noticeable, but then it treats visibly disabled people like trash too. It can be discouraging to look for help when it is that way
I don't know how to feel about ambulance workers. I found a woman throwing up blood when my mom and I were on a walk years ago. We sat her down and got her some water. I asked her if she wanted an ambulance and she was hesitant to say yes, but clearly she needed medical help. My mom talked with her while I called. The responders didn't take her seriously. They said she's homeless and just using services for a bed at night. But it was morning and I saw bloody vomit. She needed help. The job they chose is to help, not judge her circumstances. I understand empathy burn out, but now I wonder if some don't just take the job for a bit of a power trip.
That sounds horrible. I’m sorry you had to go through that. I’ve seen similar things, and worse. I hope things change to make people and medical professionals, more accountable and compassionate.
My dad has chronic back pain. It doesn't get too bad often, but one time he was literally howling from pain. We called an ambulance to transport him so that he could get the treatment he needed. Unsurprisingly, ambulance workers didn't treat it seriously, they told him TO STAND UP and at the end when he was literally crying from pain he just got a painkiller shot that did fuckall and they pissed off, didn't even take him for an evaluation. My cousin who is a nurse got him anti-inflammatory shots and he was so much better after that. If they bothered to take him there he would get them instantly, but apparently they like to specialize in dehumanizing people.
I don't get how a man with a criminal record is allowed to care for a vulnerable person? This would (hopefully) never happen if she was say, being cared for by a nurse, why is family different?
Agree with you on the first point, but people who are nurses are entirely capable of abusing people. Britney's family and financial situation is fairly unique. But I promise you, there are disabled people being abused by nurses.
Doctors have no more real understanding of mental illness than anyone else. It's all guesswork, as I discovered with my own daughter. They're idiots with a title won via an academic degree. All bollox. Poor Britney.
@@steenystuff1075 but I’m sure most doctors could easily recognise the fact that Britney does not have dementia. The problem is that it’s not that difficult to pay off a doctor to say whatever you want- like the one who lied and said she had early onset dementia.
I highly recommend watching the "Guardians, Inc" episode of Dirty Money on Netflix. It is absolutely heartbreaking to see the level of organised exploitation being facilitated by the corrupt and broken guardianship / conservatorship system.
Sadly, this happens to disabled people in the U.S. who are able to be independent, with just a little help. Conservatorships have so much corruption, and they seem to be causing more harm than good.
There need to be people who are in charge of other people's finances and personal decisions (only in cases where this is necessary, of course, and only to the degree this is necessary) who don't benefit from it financially apart from being paid for the actual work they do. It cannot be a lucrative thing apart from it being your normal job to for example support maybe four rather mildly mentally disabled people in their everyday life if this, in fact, leads to that much work. It's an important task to help someone live as independently as possible. And there should be oversight to make sure that people don't help others more than necessary just so they can make more money. No nonsense like "helping" someone for four hours if the actual help they need only keeps you busy for 25 minutes. (I know that social workers working in certain areas tend to way more "help" than necessary so they don't risk losing their cushy job ...) I think it would be absolutely correct if I could earn a living assisting four (mentally) disabled people for about six to ten hours each week with things they actually need help with. Sometimes more, sometimes less help depending on what these people happen to need that week. And since I'd be ready to help each of them ten hours a week, I think I should be paid full-time. But officially, with a set salary that isn't affected by the wealth of the people I assist.
This is a terrible situation, I was a struggling teenager when she had her breakdown and I remember being terrified of how I would be treated if I were to have my own. How she was treated definitely impacted my trust and my ability to open up about mental health. She is an inspiring woman and I'm glad people are standing up for her, I'm so glad the attitude towards mental illness is shifting! Her treatment is unacceptable, she deserves to be treated like a human like everyone else. We all deserve rights.
This is eye opening as I previously had no idea. Her social media posts seemed so awkward, knowing this now it makes perfect sense she would look so uncomfortable and be so "memeable"... It's saddening and not funny at all.
I super lucked out when I had my “mental break,” in that the psych hospital I was at was run super ethically and had doctors and staff that were kind, empathetic and not condescending. I felt way more humanized in the hospital than I did in my life leading up to everything falling apart, and I decided to stay longer because of how much progress I was making. I felt so much more emotionally safe there than in the care of friends and family at the time. I have literally never heard of anyone else having a similarly positive experience. As for weird legal shenanigans, my dad was recently redoing his will and trust, and realized in the paperwork it said his children could not inherit if they are disabled. It just said disabled, no clarification of severity or category. I have a significant physical disability, but in every way I am capable of handling my own affairs. Needless to say he was horrified and immediately had that corrected. I mention this because I expect this language is standard in all wills and trusts. He never would have requested that language himself. When you or a family member are producing this kind of document, make sure they have carefully read and removed all such language. I can’t imagine what would have happened if he had died before fixing this. I could have literally lost my home.
I'm disabled and my mom and sister have gardenship of me but if I go to court or find someone to marry in Cort they sign I sgin they would lose the over the person part of the gardenship over me I would have to go to court for financial to get that
I really hope something changes for her. I just wish the best for her. Its just so incomprehensible as well that with all those resources she couldn’t get the therapy and help to organize her own life. Its so clear she doesn’t get help but just gets milked for money. Honestly there is really not much you can’t heal from in such a long time. The whole industry is disgusting. Edit: the dementia thing is such a ridiculous lie. No way she could have hid that on TV shows etc. this all makes me so angry 😡
This was a great video. During the time of the publicity of Britney's breakdown, I was sayiing over and over again that she needs help and it's awful to mock her at this time, and literally no one responded positively to it. Everyone just laughed or joked about it. I was genuinely worried about her. Child stars often struggle and I'm not particularly a fan of hers but she is a human. Anyone who has read/seen the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo series knows about legal guardianship - it can be a joke. Free Britney is as important as Free Kesha.
I work in a group home for people with really severe mental illnesses and cognitive impairments and they all have vastly more rights than Britney right now. It's so messed up that she's being treated this way and it drives me up a wall that she was made into this gigantic laughingstock when she was in crisis. I'm so glad that people are raising awareness, because hell, better late than never, but it should never have been a joke in the first place. Thank you for this rundown of the situation so I have something palatable to link to people who don't think this is as serious as it is. Your reporting style always seems to make hard pills easier to swallow and I'm grateful.
If i were placed under conservatorship, i would be completely unable to prove i shouldnt be, because of my crappy mental health. And i have a full time job, my own place, a degree....
Britney's struggle is something I relate to on a personal level. While my experience was nowhere near as cripplingly limited, I know what it feels like to be restricted by a conservatorship. When I was a child, I was statemented, which basically means I was under a child psychologist and monitored periodically as they tried to figure out what was going on with my mental health. It was very laid back and relaxed monitoring, not clinical, and it didn't really affect my life until much later. After 11 years, from the age of 5 to the age of 16, my monitoring ended with inconclusive results and, as a result, no extra steps were taken. I didn't find out that my mother's guardianship of me stretched past my 18th birthday, as I was a legal adult and supposed to be in control of my own finances. Against my own wishes, my mother had full control over grants and scholarship awards and bursaries linked with my education, my bank account and my legal rights. As a result, I was unable to make any decisions myself and I never saw any of my money. What made it worse was that nobody ever made me aware of any of this and it wasn't until I was made redundant from my job when I was 19 and ended up having to sign up for government support that I learned just how much power my mother had over my life. I wasn't legally allowed to talk to the Department of Work and Pensions directly, as my mother was listed as appointee. I brought this to her attention and she was pretty much forced to admit that I had been under a conservatorship and that she hadn't wanted that knowledge to affect my life and had opted not to tell me anything. All of the money I had brought in from my bursaries and grants had been redirected to my mother's personal account and had been spent on educational necessities, which I had never known before because I hadn't been the one signing up for them. I was lucky in the fact that, after I was properly diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder the following year and was stabilised properly with therapy and medication, I was allowed by my mother to have the conservatorship ended and we had to meet with solicitors and go to court to prove me capable of running my own life. I had my conservatorship officially closed just before my 21st birthday. One thing that has always annoyed me about the British government though is how slow they are to pick up on changes because, even now when I have to speak to the DWP, they will occasionally ask me if my appointee" is available to speak to them on my behalf and I have to e-mail a new copy of the letter pertaining to the results of my conservatorship dissolution as proof that I am in control of my own person and need no assistance. 😖
I am glad that this all worked out in the end. You are clearly a very intelligent, well-spoken woman. I was wondering what conservatorship looked like in Britain.
It's ridiculus that the courts belived your behaviour & symptoms were severe enough for you to not be able to care for yourself. Yet the mental health services didn't seem alarmed or notice enough symptoms to diagnose you with any medical condition. I am glad you received an accurate diagnosis then appropriate & sucsessful treatment as an adult. Also relived that your mother let you have control over your life but lying to you about it is a huge abuse of trust, that I couldn't forgive. My sister had bad care from CAMHS & by talking to others I know her experience is not rare. It's a shame that they are waisting early intervention by seemingly minimizing most childrens emotional/mental distress & hoping it will magically dissappear by the time they turn 18. Not that adult mental health services are perfect but actual diagnosis seem more common. My sister got her autism diagnosis, along with more recognition how low much her anxiety impacts her life eventually in her late 20's.
Also, after the judge issued the investigation, Britney’s doctor was first up to give his report. He died days before he was set to deliver it to the courts. Since his sudden death, there has been no update on any other findings..... amuck.
What I find so crazy is that in many states Brittany would have never even been considered for a "Conservatorship". I've worked a lot with adults with disabilities in Pennsylvania where I live and there is almost never a Guardianship granted, the criteria are simply too high you literally have to be labelled as "incapacitated." Additionally the person must be given preference in choosing the guardian (they also can't stand to benefit from a will so it's rarely a family member) It also can't be a "business" only non-profits and individuals are usually granted them. (Obviously law and reality are different) But most importantly it just like almost never happens. More likely than not people are placed in a Power of Attorney position. It's appalling to hear about the vast number if situations across the US and the widespread abuse.
I've been in a psychiatric unit 3 separate times and although I was a teenager then I look back at the way the media treated in her in 2007 and I am heartbroken. It's the scariest, most disorientating and lonely experience. I was losing myself in those moments and I can't fathom how it must be to feel that way and have the world turning that into a spectacul.
I'd advice anyone to stay away from that sick system. Mental health diagnosis is like branding and you can never get rid of it, even if it is a one of breakdown. It allows people to mistrust you disbelieve you and dismiss you. Fuck psychiatry and all that crap, it literally does more harm to people than help.
I always wondered how, if she’s able to hold down a job, have this amazing career, do a residency in Vegas...why is she still under this conservatorship? I’m not saying for sure there’s shady business, but all the money people are making off of her, the courts should take it into account and seriously consider whether or not they are infringing upon her basic human rights.
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Jessica Kellgren-Fozard Thank you for this review spreading awareness❤️
Thank you!
Thank you for this story well researched video!. What happens if Brittany's dad were to die? Also, what if she really is deeply unhinged, as in she would buy a hot coffee just to throw it into someone's face etc.?
Wileyfox No1Fan Some person said it would probably be her sister or brother getting the guardianship instead. I dont think they necessarily go to court to review the case if it had been in the nearest past. I dont know anything about it though, but considering how corrupt this issue is, it is what I would consider could happen.
Wileyfox No1Fan If she was that unhinged would she be able to do the work she does?
The fact she isn't allowed to talk about her conservatorship should be all people need to know to realize there's something deeply wrong here
EXCELLENT point.
once again ' the land of the free' proves it is not. there is no equivalent process in the UK , short of someone remaining on an Mental Health Act Section
I cannot remember who said it but there is a famous quote and I know I’m paraphrasing but it’s along the lines of “that which you cannot criticize is what controls you”. So if Britney isn’t allowed to speak up about the conservatorship that was done absolutely for a reason. The same goes for a job where you have to sign “happiness contracts” stating that you’ll never say anything bad about the business and they’ll sue you or fire you if you do, or oppressive governments where people are not allowed to speak out, or demonstrate against those in power for fear of violence. They have her voice under lock and key for a reason.
Very true. The only time she spoke about it in an interview it was cut out when it aired
Or hire her own lawyer/fire her appointed lawyer who’s sketchy as hell
“She’s the worst driver” so are half the people on the road, Bryan, that has nothing to do with conservatorship
Right? So let her have a chauffeur or something? If we put every bad driver under conservatorship, hardly anyone would have rights.
if someone is a dangerous driver, you take away their licence, not all their civil rights!
Like Jessica said, Britney certainly has the means to hire a chauffeur.
Doesn't it really say everything about what the mentality is of those around her? They've basically gaslit her into control and submissivness based on minor things like being a bad driver. Other celebrities have killed people with cars. He said "Is she going to make reservations for herself?" as if every other celebrity doesn't have an assistant to do that for them.
He’s never gone to the west part of the world. There’s men driving like idiots behind the wheel of a mustang. My mom said that two men died in front of her apartment complex bc they were acting like idiots behind a wheel. Passenger flew out of the car dead at the scene, the driver was dead in his seat. Bad drivers are all over the place.
I'm 38, just like Britney, and my son was taken from me because of my then undiagnosed autism. I've been trying to get him back for 9 years now, but the diagnosis which was supposed to (and did to an extent) help me get better is now standing between me and my child. Anything I say in my defense can be waved away with "oh she doesn't know what she's saying, poor dear".
This is disregarding how I'm pretty much single-handedly taking care of my mother who is sick with cancer, how I have always handled myself in every single other aspect of life, and how my son cries with grief every single time I'm forced to send him back to his carers after his home visits.
So. Free Britney. And give all of us a more hopeful future.
Lady Drace I’m so sorry to hear that. I sincerely hope you’ll get him back. Why can’t your capacity be evaluated by an unbiased expert?! The system is so flawed.
Oh my gosh I'm so very sorry for your and your son. 😭 The system is so broken
From this comment alone it's very clear this situation should be reassessed. I'm so very sorry for your heartache. 💕
I truly hope things get better for you and your son ♡♡♡
Oh, that is horrible. Both for you and your child. I hope things get better for yourself and Britney.
The fact that she A) can’t speak about the conservatorship, B) can’t do interviews that aren’t pre-scripted and C) can’t hire her own lawyer scream that there’s something very fishy and very illegal going on behind the scenes, and it’s utterly disgusting
Nope, perfectly legal. The laws and system are wrong. The attorneys wrote the laws. This can happen to anyone, including you , tomorrow. You don't need to have any disability, just assets.
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The baby on her lap situation was when Britney was leaving a shopping centre, with no security. Her car was surrounded by paparazzi and she was alone with her baby. She fleed the situation by holding her baby on her lap. It’s not as if she was out for a leisurely cruise. She was harassed by dozens of men surrounding her with cameras. She had to act quickly for the safety and well-being of herself and her child. That’s important to include when reciting the incident.
Also her uncle shared this story about Britney's father being drunk and deciding to drive his car with 4 year old Britney on it, her uncle had to fight Jamie to stop him while baby Britney screamed and cried. Britney's sister let her daughter drive a ATV which almost resulted in her death and nobody questioned Britney's father or her sister. It's infuriating.
I did not know that information, very helpful indeed
Wow. I had no idea of the context. All I ever saw were the pictures and the judgement. It makes a lot more sense now.
Same with the incident where she was lambasted for "almost dropping" her baby. Yeah, she almost dropped the baby while literally fleeing a mob of paparazzi, who then sold the footage of it to tabloids who turned it into 'Britney is a terrible mother' rather than 'our photographers almost injured an infant due to their harrassing its mother.
Sounds like yet another attempted Lady Diana style homicide by papparazi
She can’t even tell anyone what’s happening because she can be sent to jail.... that should not be a thing. Also the fact that she can’t hire a lawyer.... that’s absurd!
Also, her appointed lawyer, Sam Ingham, whom she cannot fire, has a lawsuit against him for conspiring to kill US radio legend Casey Kasem for financial gain. According to Billboard, he showed up at the Kasem's house with an armed guard to force Kasem, who was in his eighties and living with dementia, into a conservatorship. His wife vehemently protested his being taken away (and they call her crazy, of course), but less than a month later when Kasem's daughter was able to visit him, his health had declined so rapidly that he was close to death. His widow filed the lawsuit accusing Ingham of conspiring with his older children to isolate him so he would die for their financial gain. Ingham made large amounts of money off of the family in legal fees. This is the person who was chosen as Britney's lawyer. He's never going to let her go willingly
@@colettelee1162 OMG
Even people in jail are allowed to hire their own lawyers! 😞
I know, right? What happened to the bill of rights
isn't that literally against freespeech this system is insanely stupid
It is rather strange to me that a serial killer has the right to choose their own lawyer while britney can't.
Damn. Well put.
Serial killers don't make boatloads of money for people like Britney does. And yeah, they definitely have more rights than she does. She's basically a very productive milk cow.
@@BigEyesSmallMouth She's a slave. That's all I see to it. Infuriating.
@@purplekittigaming it’s disgusting honestly this is not what Britney deserves!! She didn’t write slave for u to be a golden goose for people praying on her downfall
Wait, if she had early onset dementia, at that age, she should be incapacitated now. I smell something fishy... That diagnosis needs to be contested and she needs to have her rights restored immediately.
It's more likely she had memory issues rather than alzheimer's from either mental illness or possibly a B12 deficiency, which mimics alzheimer's to the point doctors misdiagnose low B12 as alzheimer's
@@impishrebel5969 Alzheimer's Disease isn't the only form of dementia, just so you know. I'd wager a lot of "regular" doctors aren't really aware of the B12 problem, at least in the US, because very few American doctors are taught anything about nutrition.
She didn't have early onset dementia, they got that from up their asses. There was no time to diagnose anything
@@jwb52z9 Which is ironic because any odd behaviour, pain, etc in young healthy looking women and teenage girls in the UK is typically treated with a round of deficiency blood tests (Iron, B12, vitamin D) followed by supplements and/or a hormonal contraceptive. You need to clearly have a proposed condition in order to get a real diagnosis or even move towards one first time.
@@emjenkins464 Very often the case here in Denmark too.
BRITNEY CANT EVEN VOTE?! what the hell! My grandfather with Alzheimer’s voted in the 2016 presidential election
The poor girl isn't even allowed to discuss politics on her own social media (her handlers made her delete a pro-Hillary post). Even literal children have that right! But Brittany isn't allowed to publicly express an opinion!
@@MsBrendalina A lot of the ways they control Britney is to keep raking in the money. Politics and tweeting doesn't work well
It's beyond disgusting!
That explains how trump won lol
My wife admires you greatly. She is blind in right eye and losing her hearing. As a gay disabled woman she thinks you are amazing and you are a great inspiration to her.
That's so sweet!
I've always found it sketchy the men who live off her money can tell the court she's not capable of taking care of her own money. Seems like a conflict of interest at the very least.
Totally. She should at the least have an advocate. Even children get advocates in court.
Not to mention that lawyer saying he did well, by growing her fortune by $20m. But he worked for her (dad) for years! She earned over $100m a year.
Where did all of that money go? Saying her fortune has grown by $20m is a bad thing when it should I’ve grown by hundred of millions in that time.
It’s sick that her dad using her disability to have her money. It’s seems like a working scheme, which is terrifying.
She's been being blatantly exploited since she was a teenager 😔 It's so sad
Bears some similarity to Bryan Wilson’s exploitation
@@daylightbright7675 even before then! She started working at about 5 years old
I have some distant relatives who are using their disabled grandpa with brain damage to get his money for stuff and he is usually left hungry and unwashed. Since he has brain damage (I think it's from stroke but I totally forgot) he personally has a thing that he fixates on and that's traveling from town to town and they leave him unmonitored and once he was missing for 2-3 days and they found him on the road, almost dead from freezing. I'm so disgusted by ableism in my country....
There is no evidence of this.
"Her estate is hugely wealthy and very complicated to manage." So is that of many wealthy people. That's why financial advisors exist. You don't need a legal guardian to calculate the income from national tours and albums sales and movies. You need an accountant.
Yep. Also the whole "oh, she doesn't know how to drive or do this and that". Well, she can hire a driver. Or hire somebody to teach her to drive better. She can hire people to help her. Also, if it was really about helping her, then why not slowly teach her after she got better? Her father could have just slowly get her into the business side until she was actually capable of managing it. And if she happened to hire a bad person at some point for something? Well, that sucks, but that's also how you learn. You reflect on what possible red flags you missed, what you should have looked for and you learn.
So Britney has supposedly has had ~early onset dementia~ since her twenties without having any break in her work schedule??? That's absolutely ridiculous. #FreeBritney
Early onset dementia yet miraculously can memorize lyrics and choreography for financially successful world tours and sold out shows in Vegas. It’s so upsetting.
And I don’t get why her team really doesn’t seem to get that the worse off they try to make her look mentally, the more incompetent it makes them look. Like who tf lets someone with dementia SO severe that she can’t pick her own boyfriend do years long residencies in Vegas and work nonstop for over a decade? They’re either frauds or grossly incompetent, there is no in between where they look good in this.
Early onset dementia doesn't occur until your 50s or 60s.
@@AN-bo5ej typically. But there are cases of early onset dementia setting in a person's 30s. I watched a terribly sad documentary of a woman who died when she was 32.
That being said OBVIOUSLY she doesnt have dementia. Maybe severe mental illness caused by trauma/family abuse (dissociation) but that is not dementia. Her father is pure evil!
Yeah, if she has dementia, I want to know what super drug they've got her on because she's doing better than any other patient on the planet. I have known people with early onset dementia - they can go from still being able to hold a coherent conversation, and needing some supervision but not 24/7 care, to not being able to walk, being aggressive, unmanageable and needing round the clock watching in a matter of years, sometimes less. And while my grandmother wasn't early onset, she went from 'confused' to 'danger to herself' in a year or two. It's been what? 20 years? And Britney's performing, interviewing, coherent. At this point that's not even 'slow going' dementia, that's 'miracle cure'.
Funny story: I'm blind and so can't drive, yet somehow I still manage to retain my basic human rights
Funny story: my sister has elongated muscles and dysgraphia so she can’t write well, yet she still manages she maintain her basic human rights
@@otterstarwarriorcats889 Wow, it's almost like these skills aren't essential requirements for being treated like a person!
I have uncontrolled epilepsy, dyslexia, diabetes, and brain trauma. AND I still have my basic human rights.
I'm autistic, dyslexic and have PTSD/depression: I don't drive because people seem to resist the idea of driving properly. So I just use public transportation.
My brother has an acquired brain injury and isn't able to wash his hands without help, is under our mothers guardianship, and he still has his basic human rights, because mum listens to him and considers what he wants as a priority. Britney is not respected by her so called father at all, it makes me so angry.
What I don't understand is that under a conservatorship her Dad can actually take a salary. This should be ABSOLUTELY illegal. It puts any person in danger of being exploited. All the proceeds that she earns should be put into a trust for her and all proceeds should be used for her medical care. The person in control of her assets should not make a dime of her. This rings of how in the past husbands could have their wives committed to steal their inheritance.
Yeah that confuses me too. I can understand a conservator being in charge of the person's finances. I can understand the conservator perhaps being reimbursed by the government or someone if they need to give full time care and thus can't bring in enough income to support themselves and the person they are caring for. But how on earth is it legal to draw an income from someone whose finances you have complete legal control over? And then get to dictate how much your income should be on top of that? It seems like a pretty serious flaw in the system.
Or in the instance where a salary is needed (since I’d imagine there are genuine conservatorships where caring for that person is basically a full time job) it has to be a regulated, established rate that can only be adjusted using legal pathways, proving that its necessary due to a, b, or c reason. Getting to establish your own salary, give yourself raises, etc is out of the question and unacceptable.
@@Silentgrace11 Agreed. Obviously, this is a much more complicated issue. But there should be SOME sort of oversight.
fun fact: often it was sons who were committed in order to get inheritance. Women too, but men with money and instability were a target too. There’s some great books about aslyum history out there worth reading.
@@PrettyPinkPeacock Yeah, probably mostly a woman who was married already was under full control of her husband, and unless her money was legally protected from her husband there was no way for her to keep anything from him.
"It doesn't mean I need to be under a conservatorship. It just means I need to be empowered to help myself." Well said!!!!!
Yesssss!!!!!
Due to some disability you are forced to either lose your medical coverage if you work or have a conservatorship and have a trust in someone else’s name
@@tinycomedian That's absolutely terrible. It shouldn't be that way. ☹
HELLO???
Is that not EVERY EARTHLING?
Know I'm "DISABLED" but...
Isn't EVERY LIFE in NEED of this?
Is it ONLY THE "DISABLED" ???
Can ANYTHING LIVE without a PROPER SUPPORT SYSTEM?
Sorry, just seems BASIC to me but maybe I'm missing something?
Renay E some dont need to rely on ppl daily so no. Well most people do well with a support system there are many people who are a support system or someone else or do not really rely on someone or a group of people daily and weekly or monthly to get by
Britney Spears treats her children with such respect because she doesn't want her children to experience what she did and she can't even see her children.
Love your profile photo ☺️
@@blueberry-ki9ok I agree. **Happy ace noises**
@@aussie_mozzie Same
@@blueberry-ki9ok Same
@@aussie_mozzie same haha
The world is so quick to jump on the "women are crazy" assumption it's sick that people still enforce these misogynistic views
100% This situation reeeeally reminded me of historical situations where women were fraudulently incarcerated in mental hospitals under supposed "hysteria" diagnoses, in order for their families or spouses to grab their inheritances or financial assets. It's frankly horrifying.
Society hasn’t progressed as much as we’d like to think it has. Misogyny indeed.
Jessica's barely concealed rage when she turns to the other camera and goes, "...by middle-aged men!" is a big honest to God mood.
It was the moment I decided to subscribe Haha
It's the mood I've been in for over 30 years...
“Well, we weren’t able to hear wether this person deserves rights, better default to continuing to restrict those rights.” Yikes.
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@@leegornik8656 25:02
It's a catch-22.
There's a hearing on the 19th, and then again on the 22nd. Show up to the rally if you're in LA
The fact that Britney's father is able to get away with this even under scrutiny and backlash, is genuinely scary for all disabled people living in the US, and just for all people in general.
Read about The Beach Boys' Brian Wilson and how he was publicly manipulated by dr. Landy.
This sounds dangerously like ownership over a person. Being able to say who they see, what happens with their money, their time, their property, ect, is wholly ownership. Britney, or anyone, shouldn't be punished as such for poor mental health- especially when that mental health is made poor because of this messed up system we live in.
That's actually slavery. It fit's the definition i think.
And this is happening to so many people who are not in a position to get public support. It’s a sad thing that many abusive family members do to other families members. Not to mention the host of domestic situations involving financial abuse.
*domestic partnerships
Conservatorship the new form of slavery.
Jaime spears sees Britney as a possession not a person :(
Not having her own lawyer is my one big flapping red flag. It should be 100% illegal for a person in this circumstance to not have either their own counsel or a fully independent lawyer or advocate appointed by the Court.
They do in my state. The laws vary by state in the US and I really wish that had been pointed out in the video.
Clearly this is comparable to someone with depression being punished for a suicide attempt. You never, ever, EVER punish someone for having a mental illness or disability.
Well, thank heavens we have someone who knows better than her family...or the courts...or doctors -- all without having spoken to her, or having any known psychiatric training -- here to save the day.
@@floraposteschild4184 It's a youtube comment, get over it.
@@lilrhia Ignore that person, they've been rude in several other comments as well. They're just a low-life troll.
@@floraposteschild4184 there's been so much data on this topic from those in her inner circle, and that's what's now being discussed more broadly so it's not just a baseless opinion
Yes I agree
She was a pageant and show kid to make money for her poor parents. She has always been a cash cow IMHO.
Also, her original soulful deeper voice was amazing. Would be great if she could find it again.
I love Britney and still rooting for her
She tried to release an album with her original voice (especially because the fake one she's been doing has caused her damage!) but when the record companies found out it was going to be her real voice they refused to release it. Its pretty awful that she can't even release the music she wants to release.
this conservatorship mumbo jumbo feels an awful like victorian era womans rights to manage their own estate and must have some sort of male guardian to open a bank account, manage property etc. its crazy!
ABSOLUTELY!
This is so true
It's frightening when you listen to this isn't it and yes I agree very Victorian.
💯
So true
Given that disabled people are 2-4 times more likely to be abused, and a disturbing amount of that is from family or guardians, the thought that abusers can literally set it up so that it's illegal for the victim to escape them in any way is so deeply terrifying.
WTF
She’s not even allowed to look at her bank statements without fearing that her dad will put her in a mental institution....
Sounds like nothing more than a criminal operation run by narcissistic, sociopathic, psychopathic sadists aimed at exploiting a rich, influential person.
My dad was more sick than she currently is and has more rights. My mom is in charge of a lot of things for him but he still has a lot of autonomy. Passing out in the middle of the store and being in a fog 24/7 for 8 years and still has more rights than Britney.
Ace Pixie Same goes for my aunt. She is under a much needed guardianship, and has more rights than Britney does. I know we will never get the full story, but I do hope the situation for Britney is evaluated and changed for the better.
My grandmother has dementia to such a degree that she sometimes doesn't even recognise her own daughters and she has a lot more liberty and rights than Britney Spears.
My uncle has a severe mental disability, making his ability to make desisions comparable with a todler. Nothing wrong with that, he is a great person and very happy with his life. He also is under guardianship, but he still has the right to vote..
I'm just gonna explain this since I spoke to my dad about this today: the guardianships where the person still has rights it's because the guardianship is done out of a place of love, respect, and concern. In the case of Britney it was most likely done out of a place of wanting power, money, or both.
My dad too, before he died my mom and I shared power of attorney over him but he still had all his civil rights
That family has made money off of Britney for her entire life. That's what this guardianship is all about.
Well... Yea she's only had 8 years of legal independence in he whole life
F E but it’s the truth hopefully the more people who know the more help people like Brittney can get to get out of these toxic conservatorships The family only cares about the cash she will bring in and if she quits they’ll lock her up for no longer being useful
Honestly it’s ableist but it’s also very misogynistic. If any similarly able bodied famous man were put into someone else’s control like this the courts wouldn’t hesitate to free him. This makes you realize how easy it is for even powerful women to be seen as “incompetent” for even the suggestion of mental impairment, meanwhile a comparable man would be (and often is) seen as “eccentric”.
You mean like Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys?
You mean like no one's talking about how crazy Elon Musk is?
yeah Kanye West is clearly more unstable than her right now
Like Kanye
look at kanye west
She was a child star. Her father has made money off of her since she was 4 years old and then when she has a breakdown that's the man they choose as her guardian?! Her kids will be adults soon, hopefully they can at least get the guardianship. We don't know her mental state maybe she does need someone to take care of her finances but that someone should not be the one person who has made her a celebrity before puberty.
it's the fact that her own children has a restraining order against him, he gets a pay check for this, and that Britney's mother said that the conservatory that makes me very uncomfortable. How can the court allow this and I had no idea that this is what is going on in my own country.
", and that Britney's mother said that the conservatory that makes me very uncomfortable."
and that Britney's mother said that the conservatory ... that makes me very uncomfortable
I think there's something missing in your statement and I'd like to know what it was you were intending to write.
The US is not one country, it's 50 countries in a trenchcoat. That's why our laws vary from state to state
Somebody finally phrased it right!
@@mistressdante1824 would that I could say I came up with the phrasing myself. I read it on Tumblr
I need to remember that phrasing.
Yes so true!
The military is certainly big enough for 50 countries 🤦
My biodad threatened to do this when I accepted a marriage proposal from a guy who -- GASP -- hadn't asked his permission first. So glad my in-laws (who I now see and refer to as my adoptive parents) stepped in and stood up for me. I would not have survived this kind of situation. Would not.
Please, please, please tell me you got a restraining order or a formal disownment against that despicable creature.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 I mean there are people who can't get restraining orders against people who actively threaten to physically harm them. The amount of time, money, and paperwork to probably just get rejected isn't really worth it for me. I just refuse to go to family functions that he attends, and have a ride ready to leave ASAP if he shows up.
@@SystemofEleven Do the people who attend family functions with him know what he did to you?
@@camelopardalis84 Half of them were there when he made the threat. Biomom, ever the obedient conservative housewife, blocked my exit so he could finish his tirade. I came out to some more extended family members a couple years ago about several things ranging from my orientation to my history of abuse, and their response to every point was basically, "Yeah, we already knew that". Like, they didn't have details, but apparently he regularly tries his crap with them and they just look at him like, "We're older than you. You don't have any actually power over us. No. Back off." I'm not sure it occurred to them how bad he gets when he actually //does// have power over someone, but in any case they weren't surprised. They just generally keep their mouths shut to avoid drama.
@@SystemofEleven I'm so sorry this happened to you. That's so terrible. ☹💔
If she does have "early onset dementia" she shouldn't have been "allowed" to go on tour or release albums.
She should have carers and rights that every other human being should have.
Early onset dementia happens in your 50s or 60s. That is "early" compared to regular dementia where onset is more like at 80. "Early" doesn't mean onset is at any age lmfao so tired of seeing people throw this diagnosis around.
@Daisy Shayne 😀 That makes me so happy! I really hope she gets her freedom soon.
@@AN-bo5ej not to mention that even if it were possible to have early onset dementia in your 20s, we’d expect to see at least one sign of it within 12 years!
This whole thing is disgusting. I personally don’t listen to Britney’s music, but what she has been through has been nothing short of hell. Poor thing is a puppet.
She literally has a gag order ...she cant talk about her abuse
That’s what’s crazy!!! What happened to freedom of speech!!!!
I had no idea about that until watching this video. How utterly horrifying. I can't believe that's even legal.
Ellie #BernieIsKing money speaks louder than reason
That's honestly one of the most disturbing things about the entire situation. ☹
I don't see how that is legal! Like...if Brittany is beaten, raped, etc while in her father's "care", she could get in trouble for calling the cops? Thats insane!
I've met disabled adults under conservatorship because they had the mental capacity of a toddler. And they had more autonomy and rights than Brittany does!
But where is the psychologist/neurologist/doctor that has to say what is the extent of her disability and what help she needs?? No judge or relative should do that! It's insane.
The point on this: yeah we should be looking to doctors to make this judgement, and review them, and get second opinions. But we rely on judges with legal experience but nothing else.
This is a huge problem in the states. I don't know about anywhere else. But we don't rely on the right people
Not only insane but wildly unethical on multiple fronts
I’d assume the judge makes this decision with advice from a doctor as witness, but you never know in some of these situations...
@@seaborgium919 thing is, she got very convenient diagnose of dementia, which is degenerative (gets worse) and non-reversible. A transitory psychotic episode for example might have required periodic assessment. Dementia is definitive. But the system should have never allowed that to happen on the first place, there should be many evaluations across years. I'm afraid yes, sounds like it's corrupt and can be used to some people's benefit.
Under HIPAA laws, a doctor isn't legally allowed to discuss someone's medical history, without express consent given by the person being treated.And Britney isn't allowed to consent to anything without her FATHER'S consent, which if she isn't actually unstable, he obviously wouldn't give.
And even a doctor he tries to pay off would likely not accept, as it would mean losing his license to practice and possible jail time if it ever came out that Britney HAD NOT consented to that doctor speaking to her medical history.
Basically-
Britney's Real Doctor: Get's permission from Britney to speak on her medical history. Father denies this permission and forbids the doctor from speaking. If the Doctor speaks out, they are in violation of HIPAA law, as the Father didn't consent to the information being revealed, Doctor loses his license and gets arrested.
Fake Doctor: Gets paid by Father to lie about Britney's mental state and abilities. Britney herself never consents to this doctor speaking about her medical history. Even though the father gave his consent- his consent is only permission for BRITNEY HERSELF to consent. He cannot consent to releasing her medical history on her behalf. If Britney reveals she did not consent to the medical information being released, Doctor is in violation of HIPAA, etc etc, can no longer practice medicine.
HIPAA is taken VERY seriously- peoples medical histories are one of the most protected things about them in the US.
Basically the most any other doctor could do would be speculate from the outside about Britney's stability and ability to function. The moment they actually speak to her and ask her any questions about her mental health, that conversation is protected by HIPAA.
I feel that there's also a gender issue here. Many (MANY) male artists have had huge breakdowns and they weren't treated like children because of that. But, of course, women must always behave properly, lest they be considered 'crazy' or 'unstable' (sorry for using these words).
P.S. Of course this is a complex issue, but I felt that gender may also be a factor taking part in it. By no means do I think being 'unstable' is inherently bad, nor do I believe the only reason for this is Britney being a woman.
Seems like it to me too
~cough~KANYE~cough~
@@wmdkitty EXACTLY!!!! This is happening at the very same time than the Kanye thing but Kanye is free and trying to run a political career.
miye Kanye has a lot of yes men in his life, it's scary.
definitely the fact that her Mom disagrees with it, and the conservatorship is restricting her right to give birth is some patriarchal MESS
This kind of ultimate power over someone's life in guardianship is a blatant human ownership to me. It's like being in prison for having disability. Having no freedom is horrible.
It's slavery more than prison tbh
@@kaworunagisa4009 Prison is modern day slavery.
Some people need guardians though. I support adults with learning difficulties, they can’t even count, let alone look after month. They need to have legal guardians to keep them safe. It’s only an issue when the people who have legal guardians don’t actually need them.
@@mcbusted1985 That still doesn't mean that people should be legally forbidden to even talk about their conservatorship or hire a lawyer (if someone isn't able to, they won't do it, if they are, they should be allowed to).
Émile Show me where I said it should be?
As someone who has experienced psychosis first hand, Britney's story and struggle is one that has always struck me to my core. The notion that a family member could just decide to remove my autonomy and exploit poor mental health laws is terrifying. Especially since they're the reason I am so fucked up to begin with! Thank you, I'm so happy to have found this channel.
I have schizoaffective disorder and am deeply afraid of someone deciding i am not worth human rights
Remembering the video of that guy cry-screaming 'Leave Britney alone!' really hits differently now we see where things have ended up.
Absolutely we must save Britney, even if she has a disability she's still human and deserves rights like any other person, her father is abusing her for doing this
@@yttrxstein4192 and how do you propose the average person do so?
@@yttrxstein4192 how idiotic... Thats not how it works. The law is actively stopping her from being saved. It's sick, and not as simple as you seem to think.
@@yttrxstein4192 so no one's allowed to be vocal about problems they can't directly solve all by themselves? Being vocal about something can raise awareness and get the right people who can do something on the job. Staying silent in the face of injustice does literally nothing and is much worse. Yes, more can be done than just talking about it, but you're also allowed to express your opinion about a serious topic that you're passionate about even if you aren't sure how to help.
@@yttrxstein4192 Ok? Never said you couldn't comment, man. You were mocking someone for "impotently whining" as you said. And I told you my opinion on it. So you're going to tell me to "stop that" right before saying we can both say whatever we want? Yeah, I agee. That's why I commented.
@@yttrxstein4192 lol ok. I don't need your permission. just thought you were being unnecessarily rude to a stranger online because they wrote a comment about an issue they cared about. Why waste your time? No offense meant man but don't you have something better to do? sure, you could say the same thing about me, but you were rude first so I just felt like chiming in. have a good day (:
Many US states will let a 15 year-old drive on their own with nothing more than a written exam and a 1-hour driving lesson. Even if Britney hasn't driven in 12 years, she could take driving lessons, maybe even take her driving license again. Teenagers haven't driven EVER and they are still trusted behind a wheel.
It shouldn’t matter if she can drive or not ..she has money and can hire transportation and even if she didn’t have loads of money there are other ways she could get around. my grandfather is blind and for many years would leave the house and go into town by cab everyday by himself it wasn’t until he was put on oxygen and that he needed someone to go with him.
I feel like conservatorship would exacerbate a mental health problem, not ease it. Like, you want to put person with mental health problems even more on edge? Take away their freedoms.
Totally!!!!
I have bad anxiety disorder but if I can't get a coffee, guarantee I'll be even worse off!
In Denmark, people with a mental diagnosis can not be officially 'cured / healthy', and struggle to: adopt a child, become a pilot, fireman, police officer, sailor, or au-pair.
People literally loose rights if they choose to seek help and get diagnosed.
Sooo it’s basically America over there. LOL burn 😂
@@marilynl335 I think we get more help, but it is not perfect.
Most people aren't even aware of this rights issue.
So sad #mentalhealthawareness #disabilityawareness
I wonder about Amanda Bynes too. She's reportedly being released from conservatorship this month. That girl has been through a ton.
The fact that there isn’t a registry of people under guardianship says everything
It's like this system was made to create loopholes for abusive people to take utter control of someone's entire life.
and they have even less rights than prisoners, dafuq?
Well said. Can't believe they'll let anybody take on so much responsibility
I'm a big criticism of guardianship, but why on earth would there be a national registry for something that's largely decided based on a person's health status in some way? That's incredibly invasive.
@@autumnsirens To keep track of who is currently bound so severely by the court, for how long, and how their guardian is functioning?
Allowing a person that level of control over another person is something that requires intense monitoring by a third party (and even a fourth party) to prevent abuse.
I genuinely feel bad for Britney
I went through a similar thing where I had a major breakdown where I was unable to look after myself temporarily. I had spent all my money, owed the bank money, was dangerous to myself, etc.
My parents took control of my bank and other elements of my life BUT the difference to what's going on with Britney is that my parents steadily gave me control back as I got better. When I was in recovery they started by allowing me to manage my own food, then going out, steadily increasing my allowance until I had complete control over my bank again.
That's how the system is meant to work but it's true that far too many times that it's easy for people to corrupt for their own gain. I was really lucky my parents wanted the best for me and to support me to get better. But I genuinely worry for others who are now in a more stable place but can't get control of their lives back because of legal loopholes.
I wish you all of the best and hope things continue to get and stay better for you. 💕🌸
This does not surprise me in the slightest. In a country that legalised slavery the fact that you can legally make someone sub-human is not at all shocking.
And yes, all prisoners are legally considered slaves.
The fact that they work to make license plates and other odd jobs for almost no money makes this very accurate.
@@Kaalokalawaia and they are not allowed to refuse to do the work, plus it is even called slavery in the legislation that made it law.
@@Kaalokalawaia ok wow wtf is up with your prison system
A form of this exists in every country as I understand it, though sometimes by different names. I'm struggling with in Australia under Power of Attorney.
@@iliveonatropicalisland6086 the american prison system is a for profit system that pays judges with insentives to convict and harshly sentence even minor offences.
Britney's dad belongs in prison, tbh.
Yep. Normally I'm against putting people behind bars who aren't dangerously violent but here I'd be so okay with him just being punished like that.
Camelopardis - The Green Giraffe I mean, he was dangerously violent to her kids so 🤷🏼♀️
@@marilynl335 Yes, and he was/is violent - just not in a direct and physical way - towards Britney. So my comment really wasn't that great.
I'm not a guardian, but I work at a group home for people with neuropsychiatric and developmental disabilities, and my job is to communicate with their guardians about their economy, dentist appointments, hair dresser appointments, doctors appointments, medicine etc. My job is to do all that - and more - so that our klients can live a happy and fulfilling life and be as indepentent as possible. Denying someone their basic human rights and locking them away for months, just for buying a hamburger, ain't it.
I’m horrified and furious about this situation. If she’s able to earn millions every year, she’s capable of paying a good accountant to manage it and spending it as she damn well chooses. She’s been held captive and exploited in plain sight for so long now.
"by middle aged men"
loved that part so much
Ouch. I'm a middle aged man with power of attorney for my mother. I try hard to make the best decisions I can on her behalf. I have once had to make a decision against her will but it was to ensure her safety and well being. I hope I never have to do that again. While technically I am allowed to charge for my services in my opinion that's just not something you do to a family member.
LesNewell I wish your mother (and you) the best. I hope you make her life from then on worthwhile.
@@LesNewell dont worry you're a good middle-aged man keep being awesome :)
LesNewell keep being a king and know the middle aged drag wasn’t meant for you or any particular man
OMG Im autistic with depression and anxiety and this sounds terrifying to me. Because of my experiences with ptsd and no one believing me when I say I can't do stuff I intend to make the law change, and finding out that they can have the power to take all my ability just to say that is terrifying, let alone my chances of actually getting people to listen, believe me, and then actually change it. Thank you for talking about this. I didn't know about it (and though I'm really scared now) it's good that I know. We love you Jessica!
I'm afraid for my little brother who lives with similar conditions. Our mother is currently his power of attorney and makes decisions he can't with input from him.
I'm a very non-expressive autistic individual. I'm otherwise "high-functioning" (of course, the exact level of 'functioning' can vary based on the day) and I can take care of myself fairly well. Still, the 'mood monitoring' thing just... damn.
During the documentary released in Feburary, the lawyer who Britney attempted to use during the beginning of the conservatorship said that during their meetings before the case Britney said she'd accept the temporary conservatorship as long as it wasn't her father controling it, practically begged for it not to be her father controlling it back then. They were not told til they got to the court date that she was not allowed to choose her own lawyer even pre-conservatorship which is also so suspicious
This is sad and scary to me as a person in general, but even more so as a person with a mental illness. I've always been terrified of having a breakdown so bad I'm no longer allowed to have my own autonomy. The chances of that happening to me are probably not that high, but just imagining what Brittney goes through is awful.
God I do not envy Britney at all. Regardless of what her mental health is like at a baseline, going through the things she did would take a massive toll on anybody. One of my worst fears is losing agency and control over my own decisions, so my heart absolutely goes out to her. She’s effectively a prisoner in her own home, with a conservator who clearly doesn’t have her interests at heart. I’m very glad you brought this up, Jessica. Mental health is such an important subject, and while she’s obviously a celebrity, she’s still human. She still has to struggle with mental health issues like the rest of us, and it’s unfair that she’s mocked and demonised as she has been.
#FreeBritney
@@frijofrojsdeern9545 Just wanted to say that this comparison "get taken food away from them like children" is a pb because children shouldn't be treated like either.
Frijo Frojsdeern Okay, you’re disgusting to even say that medication is worse than rape, etc. I definently don’t feel bad for you. 🤮
@@oliviavanallen9935 okay, let me get this straight you ONLY dont feel bad for tvis person because she said something you disagree with?
@@frijofrojsdeern9545 That comparison of medications to rape is disgusting and minimizes rape.
Britney's situation breaks my heart.she is so abused just because of mental health problems that just need assistance not this total removal of her rights as a person.
It also terrifies me,that here we have a huge public figure treated like this, so what chance do any other people have. The system is so badly stacked against people with disabilities and mental health problems. Especially mental health seems to remove your basic rights potentially forever.
Her disability is being used as a technicality; the reality is she's being controlled for her money and because she's a woman.
As an attorney in the states, I just wanted to say in most states a conservatorship deals with the financial assets of a person and a guardianship deals with the person. Although a conservatorship can be extremely limiting as it robs the person of financial resources, it cannot force unwanted medical care or imprisonment on a person the way a guardianship has the power to do. A conservator can financially blackmail a person in unwanted situations. Often time a conservatorship is much easier to obtain. In my practice I have seen some real abuses of the conservatorship law. Thanks for making this video!
Can any one person hold both? What about living power of attorneys? Would those come up in these situations?
Rebekah Squires Yes you can file for both at the same time. That is often what happens which makes separating the two harder. The Court can even choose to grant one and not the other. Usually a conservatorship is granted rather than guardianship as burden of proof is lower. I had a case were the person demonstrated a lack of ability to understand math and the running of the rental properties her deceased husband left her, but she was still taking care of her personal self and therefore a conservatorship was granted but a guardianship was denied. A power of attorney can be a great tool as it can be narrowly tailored to the needs of the person. Generally a guardianship will void any power of attorney dealing with medical or personal matters and a conservatorship will void any power of attorney having to do with fiscal matters. Neither will void a will made before being declared incompetent. In my state, a person holding a power of attorney is given precedence under the law when the court appoints a guardian or conservator. Also in my state, the alleged incapacitated person must be represented by an independent attorney paid by the state before anything can happen. Each state has different rules.
terestand that’s interesting thanks so much for the information.
terestand I have a question. How can there be a gag order against Britney speaking out about her guardianship/conservatorship? Isn’t that violating free speech?
Elena, #1 Bernie Bro I don’t practice in California. Everything I am about to say is generally applicable, but each state is free to make laws contradicting. Both conservatorships and guardianships are limits on your fundamental rights. It is well established that if there is a compelling state interest the government can abridge your freedoms. The normal example is yelling fire in a theater is illegal. Generally conservatorship and guardianships are sealed proceedings. Meaning no one can access the file or discuss details of the case outside the court unless ordered by the court or necessary for the progression of the case. This is seen as protecting the privacy of the individual being protected. Generally even with a sealed case the protected person and the guardian/conservatory are allowed to talk about the case just not any other party or the court. Under a guardianship the guardian can restrict access to the protected person and in doing so effectively limit their speech. Under a conservatorship I could see a lawyer making the argument that if she was allowed to speak freely she could say something that might damage her brand and earning opportunities and therefore she should be barred from making any public statements without approval. Without seeing the case file and reading the actual orders in place, I can’t say for certain what restrictions are in place and the court’s reasoning.
My cousin, who is a 23 year old man, is severely mentally disabled and there is not much he can do for himself outside of what a toddler is capable of. His mother is his caretaker and makes all important decisions for him but he still, somehow, has more rights than a 30 year old woman who is fully capable of making her own choices! My cousin doesn't even need a conservatorship, I don't think anyone does, honestly.
Remember in "the girl with the dragon tattoo" where Lizbeth basically had conservatorship placed on her and we were all appalled?
This is that in real life!
"She can't drive." In the age of Uber and Lyft and Via and a million other such services. (I also don't drive. I live in New York. So I don't have to. lol)
Im always asked if im going to start driving (im 27) and i have a file on my phone that compairs the price of a convered car that i would be physacally able to drive + ensurance and all of the stuff that comes with car ownership with how much i spend a year on buss passes and the odd taxi and the fact is the buss to and from work is my alone time
Roni stitch I’m 27 too. My dad pays for a lot of stuff for me (his choice; it’s a long story) and he was super relieved that he wouldn’t be paying car insurance for me. Lol
@@laurenconrad1799 ensurance is crazy expecnive , add in a life long illness to spice it up and its just not worth driving
I'm 27 and my disabilities would make it SUPER dangerous for me to drive. Guess what? I. CAN. STILL. TAKE. CARE. OF. MYSELF. Humans are fucking unbelievable
Exactly. I can't get my license due to my disability and I take the bus everywhere or ride my bike. My friends who drive told me that they're jealous because I do know how to take the bus.
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The only thing I never understood, if she was so sick she needed to be stripped off her rights...then why was she okay to go on tour, record albums and be at Vegas for like 4 years? It's not like she does simple shows like sitting on a chair and singing. She dances so it's a lot of work and you have to remember a lot.
Also, I've worked with hundreds of people of dementia in all stages. None of them could carry a concert without getting confused, even the ones who have just been diagnosed once, let alone for years. So I find that hard to believe that she has dementia. One of it's hallmarks is that is effects memory but somehow she was able to learn her new album lyrics, her world tour routine and her vegas routine mmmm k?
Also, if she wastes/spends a couple of thousands a month randomly... she is rich enough for it not to matter and could easily make millions through one album. So just let her spend her coin Jamie!
That's my main concern, is she ok to do all that work or has she been exploited for profit? Because I understand that she may be perfectly fit to run her own life but if she is not, how did the vegas show happened?
I think that it can probably be confidently stated that Britney most probably does not have dementia; she was supposedly diagnosed 12 or 13 years ago yet has been able to create new material & perform both new & old material for sustained periods, like on world tour & throughout a 4 year residency with no noticeable cognitive issues or deterioration? It's just not plausible.
The entire situation sounds like a huge piece of manipulation & an abuse of her agency that benefits her father & enables him to continue scam her.
@@DavyHulme Yes. I think it's not plausible at all but I obviously don't have her medical notes. I know what dementia is and how it effects people. Like you said, it's been 13 years so you'd be able to tell she has it or see the signs when she is on video these days. Dementia is not a invisible disease. If you know the symptoms and signs, you can easily pick up when you're dealing with someone who has it. There have been many times that I've advised family members because a person is showing very early signs so they might need a check up to test for that or they might have a uti etc.
I think her father is gross and is enjoying playing the millionaire with her money.
If I was judged based solely on my worst meltdown I'd come out looking pretty bad. At one point after going through periods of heavy disassociation and anxiety attacks basically any time I left my house I thought it would be a good choice to set my hair on fire ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ luckily I did not, but my fiance had to talk me out from under the kitchen table where I was hunkered down convinced my childhood abuser had somehow tracked me down. Two years later and I haven't had an episode in like a year and a half and I went through group therapy and am with a therapist I like a lot. If I was to be judged on the whole of these last two years that breakdown, while awful, was only one part of my life and the progress I've made since then.
I think Britney has been used as a cash-cow by her father since she was a child and that man will do anything possible to keep her from having autonomy over her life.
I feel like Britney is our generation's Rosemary Kennedy.
True. we need to save her :(((
Oh god. Reading this broke my heart. This is so fucked up.
That's a good comparison, and it's a good thing lobotomies aren't done today.
@@adriennedoyle4482 my great grandmother was lobotomized. She died young of cervical cancer because she (understandably) was terrified of going to the doctor.
@@adriennedoyle4482
Drugs are reversible but hardly better.
This reminds me of the Eugene Landy situation with Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys. He took advantage of Brian’s mental health struggles and abused his finances and over medicated Brian.
poor brian, first his father, then that user
absolutely, I’m so glad he’s still with us and sharing his music 💛
Yes, it's very similar. Brian even developed an illness due to the antipsychotics overmedication.
This sounds like the most bizarre thing-like all of those rules are so weird
It's funny, I've never thought about my bipolar disorder as a disability, even though it has limited my life a lot for years, and I depend on aids (medication in my case) to live functionally. Makes sense
It's actually good to put it in that light, because it emphasize how this is not me being lazy and coming up with excuses, but something real
Been in the 'I'm just lazy, not disabled'-mentality for a large portion of my life. Almost getting a burnout trying to keep up with my peers forced me to reassess a lot. Just because other people don't see the work you do in your head doesn't mean it isn't exhausting. I hope you are kind to yourself in that regard.
My parents refuse to accept my ADHD diagnosis. They'd rather me be lazy than disabled. Group hugs
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ it can be hard to admit to, because I always felt like other people had things so much worse than me and that I was just using it as an excuse and wasn't trying hard enough, I know exactly where you are coming from ❤️❤️❤️ it's a different condition to your situation but I completely resonate with what you are saying ❤️❤️❤️
I've always thought of my bipolar disorder as a disability because it impairs my life at random, even if meds help 90% of the time. You are def not lazy or making excuses because we struggle with things not everyone has to.
Being told by my psychiatrist that my cyclothymia (bipolar type 3) was making me disabled, helped me a lot too. Like, no I'm not a failure because I can't be as productive, and participate to society the way non mentally ill/physically disabled persons, I'm just walking at my own pace, and that is ok. We always think about people who are physically paralyzed when we think "disability", but mental illnesses can paralyze you just as much.
The lyrics to “Toxic” are now hitting me quite differently...
"Slave For You" too
And Overprotected.
I am a slave to you, Baby hit me one more time? 🤔Or have I got the lyrics wrong I am not a Britney expert..
Also Lucky
I just watched the New York Times documentary on this topic and I just wanted to say while I do not condone driving with a baby on her lap, she was chased into the car by paparazzi who were banging on her windows. She just wanted to get away from them.
TW: trauma connected with medical personnel
A few years ago I worked for an abusive man who liked to scream at me for "not doing my job" or not doing it properly, especially when I was reading a book or doing crosswords during the time when there were no clients. I was never very healthy in the mental health department. The year prior I was hospitalised for a suicide attempt, so I still had some leftover problems to work through. I am very prone to dissociation, so when I finally broke and went into a non-responsive, the worst dissociative episode of my life because he screamed at me one too many times the ambulance was called. When they arrived, they treated me like an animal. Mocked me, searched me for drugs, accused me of doing this for attention, openly laughed at me when I couldn't respond. Berated me during the drive to the hospital.
I'm not scared of medical workers in general, but ambulance staff always terrifies me and since that moment when I had an emergency I never called an ambulance, preferring to call a cab or ask a friend. They genuinely cause me to have a panic attack.
I’m sorry to hear that happened to you
It was honestly the most humiliating experience in my life. Medical staff tends to treat you like garbage if your illness is not noticeable, but then it treats visibly disabled people like trash too. It can be discouraging to look for help when it is that way
I don't know how to feel about ambulance workers. I found a woman throwing up blood when my mom and I were on a walk years ago. We sat her down and got her some water. I asked her if she wanted an ambulance and she was hesitant to say yes, but clearly she needed medical help. My mom talked with her while I called. The responders didn't take her seriously. They said she's homeless and just using services for a bed at night. But it was morning and I saw bloody vomit. She needed help. The job they chose is to help, not judge her circumstances. I understand empathy burn out, but now I wonder if some don't just take the job for a bit of a power trip.
That sounds horrible. I’m sorry you had to go through that. I’ve seen similar things, and worse. I hope things change to make people and medical professionals, more accountable and compassionate.
My dad has chronic back pain. It doesn't get too bad often, but one time he was literally howling from pain. We called an ambulance to transport him so that he could get the treatment he needed. Unsurprisingly, ambulance workers didn't treat it seriously, they told him TO STAND UP and at the end when he was literally crying from pain he just got a painkiller shot that did fuckall and they pissed off, didn't even take him for an evaluation. My cousin who is a nurse got him anti-inflammatory shots and he was so much better after that. If they bothered to take him there he would get them instantly, but apparently they like to specialize in dehumanizing people.
I don't get how a man with a criminal record is allowed to care for a vulnerable person? This would (hopefully) never happen if she was say, being cared for by a nurse, why is family different?
Agree with you on the first point, but people who are nurses are entirely capable of abusing people. Britney's family and financial situation is fairly unique. But I promise you, there are disabled people being abused by nurses.
@@emilypaigeballou4869 I think what she meant is that a nurse with a criminal record would never be able to care for others
Lol I was your 1k like- but ikr!
He's also been to rehab. You know who picked him up while the paparazzi invaded their privacy? His daughter. She sure wouldn't have kept him locked up
Why is this decided by a judge and not a doctor? 🤔 Or at least with oversight of an actual doctor.
There are I believe drs usually involved during but a judge decides on the overall. Lawyers and doctors oversee throughout I think
Daddy must approve the doctors, I'm sure.
Doctors have no more real understanding of mental illness than anyone else. It's all guesswork, as I discovered with my own daughter. They're idiots with a title won via an academic degree. All bollox. Poor Britney.
@@steenystuff1075 but I’m sure most doctors could easily recognise the fact that Britney does not have dementia. The problem is that it’s not that difficult to pay off a doctor to say whatever you want- like the one who lied and said she had early onset dementia.
#FreeBritney
If she really needs help with things in her daily life, she could EASILY afford to hire people to help her👏👏👏
She isn't allowed to? Did you watch the video. If she does that, her dad could send her to jail
@@BuinidhMoChridheDoAlba I meant that if she was free she could do so🙄
The fact that she can go on tour should in and of itself prove she doesn't need a conservatorship, let alone one this severe
I highly recommend watching the "Guardians, Inc" episode of Dirty Money on Netflix. It is absolutely heartbreaking to see the level of organised exploitation being facilitated by the corrupt and broken guardianship / conservatorship system.
Sadly, this happens to disabled people in the U.S. who are able to be independent, with just a little help. Conservatorships have so much corruption, and they seem to be causing more harm than good.
There need to be people who are in charge of other people's finances and personal decisions (only in cases where this is necessary, of course, and only to the degree this is necessary) who don't benefit from it financially apart from being paid for the actual work they do. It cannot be a lucrative thing apart from it being your normal job to for example support maybe four rather mildly mentally disabled people in their everyday life if this, in fact, leads to that much work. It's an important task to help someone live as independently as possible. And there should be oversight to make sure that people don't help others more than necessary just so they can make more money. No nonsense like "helping" someone for four hours if the actual help they need only keeps you busy for 25 minutes. (I know that social workers working in certain areas tend to way more "help" than necessary so they don't risk losing their cushy job ...) I think it would be absolutely correct if I could earn a living assisting four (mentally) disabled people for about six to ten hours each week with things they actually need help with. Sometimes more, sometimes less help depending on what these people happen to need that week. And since I'd be ready to help each of them ten hours a week, I think I should be paid full-time. But officially, with a set salary that isn't affected by the wealth of the people I assist.
This is a terrible situation, I was a struggling teenager when she had her breakdown and I remember being terrified of how I would be treated if I were to have my own. How she was treated definitely impacted my trust and my ability to open up about mental health.
She is an inspiring woman and I'm glad people are standing up for her, I'm so glad the attitude towards mental illness is shifting!
Her treatment is unacceptable, she deserves to be treated like a human like everyone else. We all deserve rights.
This is eye opening as I previously had no idea. Her social media posts seemed so awkward, knowing this now it makes perfect sense she would look so uncomfortable and be so "memeable"... It's saddening and not funny at all.
I may not care much about Britney, but this sounds absolutely horrifying- worse than any horror film.
I super lucked out when I had my “mental break,” in that the psych hospital I was at was run super ethically and had doctors and staff that were kind, empathetic and not condescending. I felt way more humanized in the hospital than I did in my life leading up to everything falling apart, and I decided to stay longer because of how much progress I was making. I felt so much more emotionally safe there than in the care of friends and family at the time. I have literally never heard of anyone else having a similarly positive experience.
As for weird legal shenanigans, my dad was recently redoing his will and trust, and realized in the paperwork it said his children could not inherit if they are disabled. It just said disabled, no clarification of severity or category. I have a significant physical disability, but in every way I am capable of handling my own affairs. Needless to say he was horrified and immediately had that corrected. I mention this because I expect this language is standard in all wills and trusts. He never would have requested that language himself. When you or a family member are producing this kind of document, make sure they have carefully read and removed all such language. I can’t imagine what would have happened if he had died before fixing this. I could have literally lost my home.
I just can’t deal with the fact that they’re using this power over here to stop her from being with her children
I can't imagine how many disabled people aren't speaking up due to this kind of treatment.
Most of the time they're being scared to submission and threat of jail.
I'm disabled and my mom and sister have gardenship of me but if I go to court or find someone to marry in Cort they sign I sgin they would lose the over the person part of the gardenship over me I would have to go to court for financial to get that
I really hope something changes for her. I just wish the best for her. Its just so incomprehensible as well that with all those resources she couldn’t get the therapy and help to organize her own life. Its so clear she doesn’t get help but just gets milked for money. Honestly there is really not much you can’t heal from in such a long time. The whole industry is disgusting. Edit: the dementia thing is such a ridiculous lie. No way she could have hid that on TV shows etc. this all makes me so angry 😡
This was a great video. During the time of the publicity of Britney's breakdown, I was sayiing over and over again that she needs help and it's awful to mock her at this time, and literally no one responded positively to it. Everyone just laughed or joked about it. I was genuinely worried about her. Child stars often struggle and I'm not particularly a fan of hers but she is a human. Anyone who has read/seen the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo series knows about legal guardianship - it can be a joke. Free Britney is as important as Free Kesha.
If she’s “well enough” to perform giant performances, she “well enough” to live her own life unimpeded.
I work in a group home for people with really severe mental illnesses and cognitive impairments and they all have vastly more rights than Britney right now. It's so messed up that she's being treated this way and it drives me up a wall that she was made into this gigantic laughingstock when she was in crisis. I'm so glad that people are raising awareness, because hell, better late than never, but it should never have been a joke in the first place. Thank you for this rundown of the situation so I have something palatable to link to people who don't think this is as serious as it is. Your reporting style always seems to make hard pills easier to swallow and I'm grateful.
If i were placed under conservatorship, i would be completely unable to prove i shouldnt be, because of my crappy mental health. And i have a full time job, my own place, a degree....
Britney's struggle is something I relate to on a personal level. While my experience was nowhere near as cripplingly limited, I know what it feels like to be restricted by a conservatorship. When I was a child, I was statemented, which basically means I was under a child psychologist and monitored periodically as they tried to figure out what was going on with my mental health. It was very laid back and relaxed monitoring, not clinical, and it didn't really affect my life until much later. After 11 years, from the age of 5 to the age of 16, my monitoring ended with inconclusive results and, as a result, no extra steps were taken. I didn't find out that my mother's guardianship of me stretched past my 18th birthday, as I was a legal adult and supposed to be in control of my own finances. Against my own wishes, my mother had full control over grants and scholarship awards and bursaries linked with my education, my bank account and my legal rights. As a result, I was unable to make any decisions myself and I never saw any of my money. What made it worse was that nobody ever made me aware of any of this and it wasn't until I was made redundant from my job when I was 19 and ended up having to sign up for government support that I learned just how much power my mother had over my life. I wasn't legally allowed to talk to the Department of Work and Pensions directly, as my mother was listed as appointee. I brought this to her attention and she was pretty much forced to admit that I had been under a conservatorship and that she hadn't wanted that knowledge to affect my life and had opted not to tell me anything. All of the money I had brought in from my bursaries and grants had been redirected to my mother's personal account and had been spent on educational necessities, which I had never known before because I hadn't been the one signing up for them. I was lucky in the fact that, after I was properly diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder the following year and was stabilised properly with therapy and medication, I was allowed by my mother to have the conservatorship ended and we had to meet with solicitors and go to court to prove me capable of running my own life. I had my conservatorship officially closed just before my 21st birthday. One thing that has always annoyed me about the British government though is how slow they are to pick up on changes because, even now when I have to speak to the DWP, they will occasionally ask me if my appointee" is available to speak to them on my behalf and I have to e-mail a new copy of the letter pertaining to the results of my conservatorship dissolution as proof that I am in control of my own person and need no assistance. 😖
Solidarity. That sounds absolutely infuriating.
I am glad that this all worked out in the end. You are clearly a very intelligent, well-spoken woman. I was wondering what conservatorship looked like in Britain.
You don't sound as if you're mad at your mother ... Are you actually not or am I misreading something?
It's ridiculus that the courts belived your behaviour & symptoms were severe enough for you to not be able to care for yourself. Yet the mental health services didn't seem alarmed or notice enough symptoms to diagnose you with any medical condition.
I am glad you received an accurate diagnosis then appropriate & sucsessful treatment as an adult. Also relived that your mother let you have control over your life but lying to you about it is a huge abuse of trust, that I couldn't forgive.
My sister had bad care from CAMHS & by talking to others I know her experience is not rare. It's a shame that they are waisting early intervention by seemingly minimizing most childrens emotional/mental distress & hoping it will magically dissappear by the time they turn 18. Not that adult mental health services are perfect but actual diagnosis seem more common. My sister got her autism diagnosis, along with more recognition how low much her anxiety impacts her life eventually in her late 20's.
Also, after the judge issued the investigation, Britney’s doctor was first up to give his report. He died days before he was set to deliver it to the courts. Since his sudden death, there has been no update on any other findings..... amuck.
What I find so crazy is that in many states Brittany would have never even been considered for a "Conservatorship". I've worked a lot with adults with disabilities in Pennsylvania where I live and there is almost never a Guardianship granted, the criteria are simply too high you literally have to be labelled as "incapacitated." Additionally the person must be given preference in choosing the guardian (they also can't stand to benefit from a will so it's rarely a family member) It also can't be a "business" only non-profits and individuals are usually granted them. (Obviously law and reality are different) But most importantly it just like almost never happens. More likely than not people are placed in a Power of Attorney position. It's appalling to hear about the vast number if situations across the US and the widespread abuse.
Oh man I never knew Britney Spears was disabled, thank you for making this video
I've been in a psychiatric unit 3 separate times and although I was a teenager then I look back at the way the media treated in her in 2007 and I am heartbroken. It's the scariest, most disorientating and lonely experience. I was losing myself in those moments and I can't fathom how it must be to feel that way and have the world turning that into a spectacul.
Part of the reason I'm, scared to get a formal diagnosis of autism is that I'm afraid they will put me under guardianship
Is there any necessity for you to get formally diagnosed? If not, why not just forego doing it?
I'd advice anyone to stay away from that sick system. Mental health diagnosis is like branding and you can never get rid of it, even if it is a one of breakdown. It allows people to mistrust you disbelieve you and dismiss you. Fuck psychiatry and all that crap, it literally does more harm to people than help.
I always wondered how, if she’s able to hold down a job, have this amazing career, do a residency in Vegas...why is she still under this conservatorship?
I’m not saying for sure there’s shady business, but all the money people are making off of her, the courts should take it into account and seriously consider whether or not they are infringing upon her basic human rights.