JL Collins Explains FU Money vs. FI Money

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  • Author JL Collins shares the difference between FU Money and FI Money -- two life changing financial freedom strategies. Pathfinders (Book): amzn.to/3RRHECV (affiliate)
    JL Collins (Website): jlcollinsnh.com
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    CHAPTERS
    00:00 - Intro - JL Collins Explains FU Money vs. FI Money
    01:45 - FU Money Definition
    02:30 - Good uses for FU Money
    06:15 - JL Collins FU Money Story
    07:55 - FU Money Examples
    09:23 - Define Financial Independence
    12:15 - Lifestyle options with FI Money
    14:07 - Views on Retirement
    17:11 - Purpose During Retirement
    18:49 - Homeownership
    22:50 - First step Toward Financial Independence
    25:12 - Pathfinders
    30:36 - Final - JL Collins Explains FU Money vs. FI Money
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  • @MarriageKidsandMoney
    @MarriageKidsandMoney  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Check out Pathfinders by JL Collins here: amzn.to/3RRHECV (affiliate)

  • @CaptPicard81
    @CaptPicard81 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    My wife and I bought too much house initially, as soon as we realized we’re were spending more than we made, we put the house up for sale and bought a house where the mortgage was 1k less a month. It was the best decision we ever made, our incomes increased and now we have no worries

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Homeownership has so many emotions tied up with it. Your decision sounds like a great one for your family!

    • @Lolatyou332
      @Lolatyou332 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good job.
      I bought an extremely cheap fixer upper for my income (141k selling price @ 3% APY mortgage) and put 10% down. For all the work I put into it (most of the work by myself), it should be worth about 220k if I got it appraised again. My monthly cost is only 800$ and my income is over 100k as an individual. Could literally live on 1,800$/month if I had to and it makes it so easy to save for FI.
      Meanwhile I have friends who make less buying 300k houses when they don't even have children or anything yet.

    • @howtoinvest4yourself241
      @howtoinvest4yourself241 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The problem I see is that in this current financial climate down sizing is not possible. IE if I tried to sell my home at 450k on my 2800sqft home here in Florida. I guess I could find a trailer at about 1500 sqft but the interest rates and the location of those trailers wouldn’t make me feet very safe to live there. And if I looking for a home that was 300k or less I would be brought to fixer uppers and/or dangerous neighborhoods. And the home would still be 1500SqFt or less.. it’s a scary move unless you have enough equity in your existing home to put a huge chunk down on the smaller home. In a nice neighborhood where you don’t have to worry about being robbed to shot or the noise of party animals in all hours of the night. 😅 I don’t know these are just my thoughts am I wrong?

    • @DAL201107
      @DAL201107 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Lolatyou332 weird that you share so much information about stuff no one here really cares about. What makes people do this?

    • @DAL201107
      @DAL201107 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@howtoinvest4yourself241 this is like a back door brag that you got a good deal with a low interest rate. Once again, the propensity for people to beat their chests and yell “look at me” is unbelievable these days. Lmao. I made 3.2 million in stocks since 2013. I could buy your house 7 times over if I wanted. Doesn’t mean I’m out here in the comment section whacking my c*ck to it. 😂

  • @imdoc7872
    @imdoc7872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Im a physician. I got burned out last year. I quit. The director gave me a few options but I decided to just leave in good terms. I came back 5 months later on my terms and they did not even put up a fight. They agreed to my requests.

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Taking breaks like that can be just what you need.
      So happy to hear you were able to take care of yourself.

    • @BUDS228
      @BUDS228 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I’m a pharmacist and I did the same thing due to burnout. Went from 44 hours a week as manager to just two 8 hour shifts a month now.

    • @howtoinvest4yourself241
      @howtoinvest4yourself241 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re needed in your field of work which is great. If your a retail working you would just quit and look somewhere else to work. Cause retail workers are a dime a dozen. Low skills required, just people, organization, and hard work skills are the only things required. But I am very happy that you had those options to take a break

  • @70qq
    @70qq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    5k in 1972 would be $36,447 now in 2024 .....according to inflation calculator

  • @mrhull101
    @mrhull101 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Loved the Ben Carlson shout out. 19:13

  • @randymillhouse791
    @randymillhouse791 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I am $160K away from FU money. That will take 1.5 to 2 more years. Retiring in summer 2027 at 62 and just to be sure we have that FI topped off!

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great planning! Congratulations!

    • @randymillhouse791
      @randymillhouse791 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@MarriageKidsandMoney Thank you. I must admit though... retiring to South America because the USA is no longer viable for retiring in.

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@randymillhouse791 I understand! Your money can probably go a lot farther down there. Buena Suerte!

  • @vanguardvaluist2614
    @vanguardvaluist2614 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I’m so grateful for JL Collins and Jack Bogle. Been on the path with a median income for 8 years and I can see the finish line. The numbers changed when I did!

  • @CharlesBallowe
    @CharlesBallowe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I always put FU money as a step past FI. FU money by my definition would be the point where if an employee at some company was rude to you, you can buy the company and fire the person.

    • @ms8742
      @ms8742 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Same here to some extent. To me FU money was you could leave at anytime and have an upper class lifestyle without working. That is FU money to me.

    • @hockeyguy22015
      @hockeyguy22015 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There is FU, FO, and then FI. Haha😂

    • @az21bob666
      @az21bob666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it goes FI money so you dont have to work again, to FU money were you can do stupid shit like buy a new car to crash it for fun, to F everyone money, to change the worl money like bill gate and elon musk.

  • @economicdevelopmentplannin8715
    @economicdevelopmentplannin8715 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Rather than say, "if $40k yearly is needed ..", we should discuss our actual needs.
    For us, it's 1) property taxes 2) utilities 3) groceries yearly. Everything else is optional. A luxury. Toys, at best. Wasteful, at worse. Then, back into discussions about these, where they're higher and lower. What brings more joy vs headaches. For example, Where do we get more amenities in exchange for the property taxes. Beyond the beach and mountains, I find the property taxes of being in the DC area offer more than any other places in the US. The quantity and quality of free museums. The volume of top schools. The moderate weather. Access to both beach and mountains. Generally half the cost of NYC and California.....
    Or... Does a car or unlimited transit pass bring more joy.
    I'm looking for these discussions...

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not enough thought is given to these types of discussions.
      I had a conversation specifically on this subject with Joshua Becker that you might enjoy -- th-cam.com/video/xYGyJ5Cc6t4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gIu4lWvn-wOwndPr

    • @economicdevelopmentplannin8715
      @economicdevelopmentplannin8715 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MarriageKidsandMoney awesome 😎👍😎👍😎👍

  • @nodnalkrats56
    @nodnalkrats56 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Financial advice from Optimus Prime! Love it

  • @Mary-tj5qx
    @Mary-tj5qx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    i grew up in a part of the world where opportunity and employment were not guaranteed. I've never regarded any job as permanent and once i got to a point where i was making more than just enough to survive, i put the vast majority of the surplus into retirement and cash savings. One observation. I think most people assume they are going to be able to work at their careers until full retirement age. They won't. Odds are they'll be forced out long before then. If you shave 20 years off your retirement age and consider that to be the point when your employment will become much less secure, you'll prepare accordingly. The main benefit of having financial freedom is that you build an exit door for yourself. Your employer doesn't hold your fate in their hands. Leaving that kind of work to do work or whatever you want that hold meaning for you is a good life.

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wise words right here!

    • @MN-wg8qd
      @MN-wg8qd หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      People talk about coasting and taking it easy early on (20s). And while a single sabbatical probably won't break you and will be worth it.....I feel a strong urge to strike when the iron is hot. I work in software and have done this for over a decade now and can see that my skillset and industry and overall job market just aren't what they were 4-5 years ago. I'm under no delusion that this will even be too much of a thing in 10-15 years or perhaps even less.
      I'm glad to have hit it pretty hard and earned and saved to leanFI levels because none of these jobs are guaranteed.

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MN-wg8qd Great point! I took a similar path. Earned a lot and saved a lot in my 30s. Now enjoying more time and margin while my kids are still young.

    • @andrewpizzino2514
      @andrewpizzino2514 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Weak leaders are threatened by older workers regardless of how effective you are. Trust me, I know.

  • @JosephDickson
    @JosephDickson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    The Simple Path to Wealth is an amazing book. I recommend everyone read it.

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Got it on my shelf too!

    • @JC-du6sn
      @JC-du6sn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Look up Within Heaven's Gates by Rebecca Springer. Page 64.😇

    • @patrickprendergast9589
      @patrickprendergast9589 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ok what is it

    • @DAL201107
      @DAL201107 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JC-du6snwhat’s with you and this book? Did you write it? Stop already.

  • @sturat18
    @sturat18 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’ve been out of debt most of my adult life. I had a VERY high stress and low work/life balance career, and one day (with the support of my wife) I just quit. The key? No debt and a pile of FU money. Now I work remote for less, but through budgeting and long-term planning, still achieved paying off the mortgage and now in the best spot we’ve ever been in.
    Upgrade cars? Start a small business? The world is our oyster.

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love it! Congratulations on this smart life decision!
      My wife pushed me to quit too.

  • @LtColDaddy71
    @LtColDaddy71 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mi was really aggressive in real estate as a young guy, always using other peoples money. Technically, at 32, I could have retired. I’m 52 now, had a great 20 yr career as an airline pilot, and I farm at scale. I’ll qualify for a reserve retirement and benefits soon. I never stopped investing, I work on aircraft as a side gig.
    It is and was always the FU factor for me. I was never beholden to the military, my airline, the farm, or fixing and fabricating things. The farming operation is set up as a legacy item. My mark on the world long after I’m gone. It’s set up to where I can’t even sell it. It’s it’s own being.

  • @bobbytheblade2550
    @bobbytheblade2550 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I crossed the FU stage about 9 years ago. I said it would not make a difference - HUGE LIE!
    No, I started telling everybody what I actually thought about everything, and it's been GREAT!
    FU is a great philosophy of life!

    • @private464
      @private464 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How much is this?

  • @user-li2vl4yd1x
    @user-li2vl4yd1x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I love this man. He has a gorgeous voice and a no nonsense approach, which is clearly a double bill. Thank you both. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @typorter-pp6lh
    @typorter-pp6lh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    A year before I quit my last office job (have been self-employed for 10 years now) I told my boss I wanted to reduce my work to 32 hours a week. I wanted to devote more time to my side hustle to see if I could eventually make that my full time job. I could tell he didn’t like the idea, but he agreed to it because in his words “we don’t want you to quit.” He knew I had enough FU money to walk if he didn’t reduce my hours. I have friends who live paycheck to paycheck and they end up being hostages to their employer. FU money is FREEDOM.

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What a great testimonial for the power of FU Money!

  • @jh26pt2
    @jh26pt2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I’m new to your channel and had heard of Collins in passing, but had never looked further into his work. He has a lot of good thoughts - now I want to check out his books. Thanks for a good interview!

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So glad you enjoyed the chat!
      I'd recommend checking out The Simple Path to Wealth first -- amzn.to/3UqMoAK (affiliate)

  • @mitchellhallan5903
    @mitchellhallan5903 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    So glad to have stumbled on JL’s blog back in 2012, his mission to provide simple guidance to investing helped set us up for financial success. Just today (first of the month) I updated our monthly portfolio tracker and was looking back to 2012 when we first started compared to our portfolio today… simply incredible the difference. Thanks JL and LOVE Pathfinders. I share my copy with whoever will read it!

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love your story! He shared a simple path when everyone else was complicating it!

  • @ninerknight5351
    @ninerknight5351 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    JL: I am struggling with respect for my parents. I love my parents but as I gain financial literacy I’m starting to have trouble respecting people with terrible priorities. As I make all the sacrifices for my family it’s become evident that my parents did the exact opposite. It’s getting hard to respect anyone who has terrible, childish priorities. Who threw their life away because of car commercials.

    • @qwerty1994ize
      @qwerty1994ize 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s just how it goes.

  • @vikasd.7139
    @vikasd.7139 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    20's FU Money < FI Money

  • @25Soupy
    @25Soupy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    17:00 minutes of the video: Yes, calling it FI opposed to FIRE is probably a better use of the acronym. I have to constantly tell people "retire early" means retired from being an employee. I'm barista FIRE working 2 days a week for the last 2 years. Working 2 days a week including stat holidays covers all my monthly expenses and I even save some money on top of that. Currently, I'm not interested in starting my own business or anything like that at this point and find leanFIRE/barista FIRE works great for me. I did spend the last 2 years playing the options trading and high yield dividend investing. I've quit all that for collecting 5.11% interest in money markets, which is great for the 4% rule. I hope that interest rates don't go any lower but we all know they will and I'll have to go back into the stock market and further out on the risk curve.

  • @chrisniner8772
    @chrisniner8772 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Im living 6 pack to 6 pack.

  • @Bob-yh7ir
    @Bob-yh7ir 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love it ! Have had FU money for decades now. It allowed me to take some chances, switch jobs or move within a company to things that may or may not work out, etc. Take longer vacations working with my mgmt team to do so. And of course when a couple places I worked went dark ( out of business ), it was now a buffer and allowed me to take some time to look for what I wanted to do next. Now have hit FI and going into the RE part of it with early retirement.

  • @theadamblock
    @theadamblock 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    JL's good people

  • @FABM27
    @FABM27 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Where I live, there is no capital gains on real estate profit (provided you live in the property for 2 years), hence borrowing to buy property makes sense!!!

  • @Antandthegrasshopper
    @Antandthegrasshopper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +189

    I'm 58 and was burned out from the job. Told my boss I quit and he asked me what can he do to keep me? I said 1 year of sabbatical leave to travel. He came back in two days and said OK... Woo hoo! Leaving in 3 weeks for Asia, Europe, Central/South America trip!

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Incredible! You must be a major asset to the company!
      Well deserved!

    • @JC-du6sn
      @JC-du6sn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Awesome. Read the autobiography Within Heaven's Gates by Rebecca Springer on your flight.Gift.😇

    • @travis1240
      @travis1240 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Nice. I doubt you're going to want to go back after the year though.😊

    • @Antandthegrasshopper
      @Antandthegrasshopper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@travis1240I do think the same! LOL

    • @sethdickson94
      @sethdickson94 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      29 saved 162k thinking of doing this.

  • @Tinaluvsdc
    @Tinaluvsdc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Thanks for having JL share his insights! I love both of his books❤

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's an incredible guest and I learn so much from every time we chat.

  • @thesytch
    @thesytch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love some JL! Looking forward to watching this video.

  • @masoncnc
    @masoncnc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Ran portfolio visualizer on my house payment for the last 20 years. My Monthly payment put into VOO would have gained 20% more than current house equity. Interesting

    • @yestohappiness2721
      @yestohappiness2721 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But you would have slept outside on Wall Street 😂

    • @masoncnc
      @masoncnc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yestohappiness2721 therein in lies the problem. 🤷🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @johnyang1420
      @johnyang1420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where can I find this portfolio visualizer?

    • @agentsnorlson7913
      @agentsnorlson7913 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Did you subtract the rent you'd be paying? You'd really only be investing the difference between the mortgage payment and rent. Also, rent would be forever, a mortgage eventually is paid off and you have an asset.

    • @digitalat2
      @digitalat2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Adjusted for purchasing power parity, also known as adjusting for M2… the money supply divisor… the S&P index and housing, after taxes, etc., both only maintain purchasing power. They do not get us ahead in a purely financial sense…

  • @MichaelChengSanJose
    @MichaelChengSanJose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve always bounced around seeking whatever job challenged me so FU money was a rather foreign concept until I started a family. Then, it was about $1M net worth, which took me until age 33 to reach, for the second time.
    For FI, I’d only heard about that in the past few years. I figured that’s what everyone was naturally aiming for and didn’t need to be stated. I don’t agree with the generally stated rule of 4% draw per year. That doesn’t cover rapid inflation or potentially explosive health costs in later years when the main reserves are gone. I live by -4% draw per year. That mean each year, after I take my 4-6% for living expenses from passive investment returns, I would still add 4% to the reserve funds. This way, I can build up a sufficient base to sustain myself in case I have huge health bills.

  • @bendimiero380
    @bendimiero380 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @15:49 RE = recreational employment is my preferred terminology

  • @Lolatyou332
    @Lolatyou332 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @14:30 Very true. How many people who actually accomplish FI (not inheritance) don't have the drive to continuously improve? You have to have a good income while also significant drive to accomplish FI and many people can't even comprehend how people get wealthy and think it's 100% income based.
    When I invest my money I see it as a way to immediately increase my overall income rather than just saving it for retirement. Having 1x salary saved is basically like increasing my income by 10%, if you save 25% of your income you're basically increasing your income 2.5% every year, 50% is 5% per year, etc.
    Just can't imagine not wanting to put money into things that build you as an individual through appreciation, rather than buying things to show off that depreciate.

  • @StackingBenjamins
    @StackingBenjamins 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Achieving financial independence is indeed a journey, and your practical insights provide valuable guidance for those looking to take control of their financial future. Keep empowering others with your wisdom!

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks SB! JL continues to impart valuable wisdom to us all!

  • @gameplayer1980
    @gameplayer1980 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video came just at the right time. Definitely "feeling trapped" right now.

  • @howtoinvest4yourself241
    @howtoinvest4yourself241 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hear you loud and clear

  • @LJernegan
    @LJernegan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    FU money has allowed me to choose my clients. I have run across a true criminal who treated his employees with awful contempt. On average people still worked for him for a year. I was out in 2 months, and I was mad I stayed that long.

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      FU Money gives you confidence and strength to make the best decisions for you!

  • @ryanbaileyboxing
    @ryanbaileyboxing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👏🏾🔥

  • @erdrick22
    @erdrick22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Awesome that John Goodman could stop by, Just kidding, this was great nice to see JL Collins he is awesome.

  • @ollietron128
    @ollietron128 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love this guy

  • @bcusaaus4749
    @bcusaaus4749 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Pure wisdom!!! Lots of lessons I’m learning

  • @eikoGoldstein
    @eikoGoldstein 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    FU and FI are initialisms, not acronyms. An acronym is a pronounceable word created from the first letter of several words.

  • @GruncleJohn
    @GruncleJohn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love that guy! JL rocks!

  • @howtoinvest4yourself241
    @howtoinvest4yourself241 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will be working on FU money to open opportunities for me to take a leap if needed. But I would keep building to get to FI

  • @mnmaddict37532
    @mnmaddict37532 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great advice about not buying the most expensive house. You will become a slave to your house and even worse...your employer.

  • @daralynx2
    @daralynx2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Been FI a while and love this. Excellent video👍

  • @christinab9133
    @christinab9133 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    ❤❤❤

  • @scootermcgooginhime2464
    @scootermcgooginhime2464 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish I would have started this before having kids . I’m a work from home dad now and would have loved to be FI so I could homeschool but they are young we will see how fast we can do this

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I understand how you feel. I never reached Financial Independence, but hitting Coast FIRE then using FU Money to transition into part-time work allowed me to buy more family time.
      Have you heard of Coast FIRE?
      th-cam.com/video/B33AH4hGltQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0sz4Zu1JQbDI5SkI

  • @SweetPotatoBall
    @SweetPotatoBall 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love his calm voice.

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed! He's meant for the audiobook hall of fame

  • @apridarappanan7624
    @apridarappanan7624 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh my god, i love his voice...( remind me to Jack Bogle)....

  • @rsstnnr76
    @rsstnnr76 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm 46 with 4 kids. The building up FU train left long ago.

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I feel ya! Life with kids can become quite expensive.

    • @ERidesOn2
      @ERidesOn2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have 3 kids. If you save something and never touch it you'll be that much ahead in your old age. I worked 46 years in trucking. Got them all through college with no debt. No dumb ivy league costs to become a school teacher. Never, ever a new car, unless your income allows it. You have choices. BTW... I did work way too many hours, but my wife was able to stay home with the kids until they were grown. I plan to fully fund a Roth IRA for each untill their 30+. Good luck, always save something & invest wisely. You'll be surprised.

  • @Growth_Stock_Life
    @Growth_Stock_Life 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Even better buy closed ends funds that yield 10%. Take profits constantly and reinvest into CEFs on discount. That should boost your returns to 15% approx P/A then live off 8%.

  • @jordankendall86
    @jordankendall86 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Although I hate using the term FU money, I see it as the level of wealth where I can say and do almost whatever I want to do and I don't care about pissing off others because their actions have little to no impact on me. Of course I wouldn't commit a crime, but with FU money I have the freedom to communicate any opinion, live wherever makes me feel comfortable, and sue whoever pisses me off. FI is being able to live the typical standard of living you planned to live without working, but you still have to play by society's and government's rules, systems, and norms. Essentially with FI you still have to bend to those with much greater power and authority than you.

  • @midwestcannabis
    @midwestcannabis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

  • @brisca3301
    @brisca3301 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anything is negotiable. I've been in my company for 26 yrs. I have taken 2-4 months unpaid (FU money) leaves and looking fwd for a 3rd leave soon. Never gotten push back from mgt team except for cutting it short (ie getting 4 months instead of 6)

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Incredible what FU money and the confidence to ask can do!

    • @brisca3301
      @brisca3301 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MarriageKidsandMoney FU very important but so are relationships and excellent work ethics. I seldomly get asked by co-workers how hard it would be to get a leave of absence approved.. I reply it should not be too hard (if a hard worker asking) then the usual follow up question is "a paid leave?" :-)

  • @josephjuno9555
    @josephjuno9555 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Retirement Police Are so adamant, if you do Anything for money after quitting your job. YOU ARE NOT RETIRED! I Rretired🎉 took 6 months OFF and then went back to work Part-time as I had planned. Easing into Retirement. But if someone retires; and then does something else that may be their choice? Work as volunteer? Work PT At golf course or learn the beach? You don't have to stay in your rocking chair

  • @bgr007
    @bgr007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Pathfinders is a great read 👍

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So glad you enjoyed it! Love the stories and the author

  • @kevinfreimarck3301
    @kevinfreimarck3301 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Middle class that I am a part of pays the most taxes and doesn't get the breaks the wealthy or poverty do.

  • @curtissouth916
    @curtissouth916 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Although I like and agree with JL Collins, i disagree with his definition of FU money. FU money is not a step above paycheck to paycheck. In fact it’s more money than FI. FU money is defined by urban dictionary as “The point at which an individual, after acquiring absurd wealth, ceases to care about his/her reputation, and ceases to be concerned with the economic repercussions of his/her future actions. Otherwise know as "f*** you money". Most people think of FU money is like Elon Musk buying twitter. He didn’t like it, it wasn’t for sale, but he bought it to prove a point. Or using your money to get retribution. Someone won’t let you buy their business? You buy the building they work in. It’s having so much money you can waste it just to spite someone else.

    • @agentsnorlson7913
      @agentsnorlson7913 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree, but what he's describing is *still* a different kind of FU, just a lot less dramatic and powerful.
      This is also a useful step between paycheck 2 paycheck and FI. But either it or the situation you describe should have a new name to distinguish them.

    • @zsi
      @zsi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      FU money is defined by the extent of the influence and impact you wish to achieve. For most, it means possessing sufficient funds to avoid having their daily, weekly, monthly, or yearly time strictly controlled by an employer. Employers, accustomed to holding the upper hand, often take for granted that employees rely on them for survival. Essentially, FU money grants individuals the freedom to decline requests or opportunities that they would otherwise accept out of financial necessity.

    • @freedomlife3623
      @freedomlife3623 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That explained why Elon Mush is so irrational & full of himself.

    • @SuzanneU
      @SuzanneU 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think of it as WOW money - Walk Out Whenever.

    • @arichamberlin3160
      @arichamberlin3160 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I Agree that FU money gives the freedom to not Need to just do anything an employer want. It's having a 3 months - 1 year run way. This is way different than FI . Fi is when your money is working so you don't need to.

  • @jwetzel3141
    @jwetzel3141 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Taxes and insurance are putting fire out of reach for many of us.

  • @RogerMKE
    @RogerMKE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I enjoy listening to Collins, but I always find his advice on homeownership to be cringey. Renters do not escape what he calls "ancillary expenses" like taxes and repairs. Rather, they are just baked into your rent. Also, once your house is paid for, it becomes far cheaper than renting. My parents live comfortably off their social security because their home is paid for.

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Good points here. I prefer combining the mortgage-free lifestyle with the FIRE lifestyle.
      It feels good.

    • @BrianK-zz4fk
      @BrianK-zz4fk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends on the individual. If you like to change locations often renting is far cheaper. If you founda place you can see living for a long time buying would be better. Closing costs will eat away at any equity gains. Your primary home is not an investment but can be a great savings vehicle.

    • @James_36
      @James_36 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, it is the only thing I think he needs to re-look at properly... Renting is an inflation risk and you get less house per monthly cost of rent vs mortgage cost... mortgages don't go up with inflation, that is never factored into the thinking and like you say, how much maintenance cost is hidden in the rent? also maintenance costs are small if you look after your house properly.

  • @daveycrocker4466
    @daveycrocker4466 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Im poor, i have f-me money.

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      New Stages of Financial Independence
      1. F Me Money
      2. FU Money
      3. FI Money
      In all seriousness, your new stage one starts with slowly growing the gap between your income and expenses.
      Then you can build up your emergency fund, eliminate high-interest debt, and begin saving for retirement.
      These are the important steps you can start today. And then you go for bigger goals like financial independence.
      And while you’re at it, find some people who are on the same path as you. Community makes this FI game so much better.

    • @alvingarcia458
      @alvingarcia458 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

  • @BitsOfInterest
    @BitsOfInterest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The truth is, if you don't save anything you'll never be able to retire. Now if you want to be financially independent in 20 or 40 years is up to you and you can save accordingly. Your options are to make more or spend less, preferably both 😜

  • @Well_Earned_Siesta
    @Well_Earned_Siesta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love this! But "FU money" already has a different meaning. I propose "FI, FO, FUM"
    FI: Financial Independence (4% rule, etc)
    FO: "F*** Off" money (what JL described here. You can't "retire" at this level, but you're not in debt, not paycheck to paycheck, and have enough to hold you over for 6-12 months if you want to walk away from a bad job/boss/situation... You can "f*** off" for a while, but not forever)
    FUM: "F*** yoU Money" (This is a level far above FI. You have enough to live fully at the lifestyle level of your choosing without being dependent on any job or business or even market conditions).
    Group these together into the mnemonic, "We FI, FO, FUM"... a twist on the Giant's saying from Jack and the Beanstalk. As in "We" are each striving for one of these levels at any given time.

  • @CampsitePyro
    @CampsitePyro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe getting a month of without pay is possible while they hold your job, but i doubt much longer than that.

  • @anthonys5568
    @anthonys5568 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What is FU and FI money?

    • @abclawnworks9127
      @abclawnworks9127 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Financial Independence as opposed to FU baller $

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      F@ck you money vs financial independence.
      “FU money” means you can “give the finger” to your boss and walk away anytime, because you have enough money to maintain your lifestyle until you get another job. Financial independence is even better. It means you don’t need to work anymore.
      What country do you live in?

    • @RogerMKE
      @RogerMKE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/video/rJjKP8vYjpQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @ypey1
      @ypey1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Its all very relative... i know homeless guys with no money saying FU to their boss annyway 😂

  • @MJIKS22
    @MJIKS22 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    FU money is not just the amount but the makeup of your money and how you make money going forward. When you can say FU to anyone and your $$ is safe then you have achieved FU money

  • @02nupe
    @02nupe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    to be honest the Godfather of Fire is Financial Samurai Sam Dogen, he dates back to 2009 with all due respect. with that clear, quality content here!

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sam is awesome for sure!
      I had a chance to interview him recently too -- th-cam.com/video/UTMGdNUow5E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vu2jsWpgg0VgqfH6

    • @brianmcg321
      @brianmcg321 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No he isn’t.

    • @alcanford4495
      @alcanford4495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not a big fan. Too much clickbaity content, which is certainly not the case with JL.

  • @jle92708
    @jle92708 วันที่ผ่านมา

    FURY 👊🏼 > FIRE 🔥

  • @myklgylmata1801
    @myklgylmata1801 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is FI Money?

  • @private464
    @private464 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought FI money is being able to buy whatever you reasonably need to live,
    while FU money is being able to buy whatever you want even if it's unreasonably expensive

  • @Jim-Greek
    @Jim-Greek หลายเดือนก่อน

    Go up your boss and say F U I’m outta here.
    Next day the markets crash.
    Walk straight back into the office.
    “I’m back!
    Yea that FLU was pretty bad huh”

  • @JC-du6sn
    @JC-du6sn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Look up the autobiography Within Heaven's Gates by Rebecca Springer. Page 64.😇

  • @amyx231
    @amyx231 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think of FI and FU $ oppositely. FI means I can leave my job. Maybe work part time (leanFIRE, BarristaFIRE). FU money means I can say, F U boss, I quit! Instantly unhirable in my field. No job reference. So… you have to be able to live without a job ever again.

  • @a55tech
    @a55tech 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    fi: 2M
    fu: 10M

  • @abetteryou2025
    @abetteryou2025 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YOU COULD BE A CARTOON VOICE :)

  • @lionrock2023
    @lionrock2023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    fu must mean something else inhere you are from.

  • @supermills03
    @supermills03 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Right now I'd say I have F Me money.

  • @HankColter
    @HankColter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "The Office" theme song background music has to go

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      haha! I'm always looking to improve. Any suggestions?

    • @HankColter
      @HankColter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MarriageKidsandMoney Something with Steve Vai type guitar work maybe?

  • @Neckwerk2
    @Neckwerk2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There’s no way anyone can live on $20k-$40k a year. That’s poverty. I think the new formula should be $300,000 as a base X 25= $7,500,000. This formula will create both FI and FU money

    • @MarriageKidsandMoney
      @MarriageKidsandMoney  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hear ya! Everyone has a different lifestyle.
      Our family of four lives comfortably on around $80k per year, but we have no mortgage and we live in Michigan.

  • @lodianthorpe6445
    @lodianthorpe6445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jnj

  • @michaelcope2329
    @michaelcope2329 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Let me provide you with a FU money story. Buying a 1,500 acre farm, (with cash). prior to closing you contact that tenant farmer (the farmer leasing the farm that your buying). You inform him your about to buy it and do not plant any new ground, as your about to buy it, and are going to do something else with it, and to save him some money on wasted fuel, seed and time. That tenant farmer says, the deal hasn't closed and might not, I'm planting it. He plants, sale closes, you fly in your helicopter and find the tenant farmer on another nearby farm that he also tenant farms. You inform you bought the place and since he planted it, your now going to contact every land owner he from which he tenant farms and buy all the farms and run him out of business. Then you fly off and proceed to do exactly that, all in cash. THATS FU money, in the literal sense of the word and requires that you have at least 10 million liquid. Minimum this guys are not talking about that kind of money.

    • @zsi
      @zsi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      FU money is relative to income. If you're flying around in helicopters and buying up farm land, the amount ofFU money you need is much higher than the typical working person. FU money still has the same meaning at all 8ncome levels.

    • @michaelcope2329
      @michaelcope2329 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No FU isn't relative to income. That's the point of my story. FU money, do you know what that stands for? The guys on this video or merely talking about financial independence money which is by no means FU money. FU money is the kind of money where you can use it to F someone or something up and do it legally where there are no consequences are repercussions, again within the legal system. Now if someone wants to come after you for ruining their life, then so be it, but FU money and financial independence or financial freedom are not even in the same universe when it comes to income. If someone is flying in helicopters and buy huge tracts of farm land in cash, they have FU money, that's the whole point. Good grief

    • @bigbubba4314
      @bigbubba4314 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@michaelcope2329seems your definition involves the potential to be an asshole, and ruin peoples lives. Most won’t agree with you. But of course, some will.

    • @SuzanneU
      @SuzanneU 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To me, that's horrible. It's malicious and all about arrogant display of vindictiveness.

    • @michaelcope2329
      @michaelcope2329 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When you say FU to someone, or you being nice. NO, FU means FU, so these guys talking about FU money as if its being financially independent is not the definition of FU money. I know several people that have true FU money, and that is how they all define it. FU money and having enough money to be financially independent are 2 totally and completely different things. I'm sorry the poster of the video doesn't understand that. @@SuzanneU

  • @personnesenki4521
    @personnesenki4521 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unless you can live with your parents until you're 40, you will never be able to afford a house with cash.

    • @bigbubba4314
      @bigbubba4314 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Sounds like you have given up already. Good luck with that methodology.

    • @personnesenki4521
      @personnesenki4521 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bigbubba4314 If your parents let you live with them until you can buy a house with cash that's awesome.

    • @bigbubba4314
      @bigbubba4314 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@personnesenki4521 indeed, that is awesome.

    • @personnesenki4521
      @personnesenki4521 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bigbubba4314 TBH I wish more parents would help their kids out that way instead of throwing them out at 18 with no job and little life training. I hope we become the rule and not the exception. Imagine seeing your own kids not waste their money on rent and go right into building home equity.

    • @bigbubba4314
      @bigbubba4314 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@personnesenki4521 I think this is an issue way more complex that your statement indicates. There are both good and bad parents, and good and bad kids, and many more somewhere in between.

  • @Hdianvciadpei
    @Hdianvciadpei 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    5 minutes in, and I am having a hard time to not lose this guy’s credibility. $37K vacation money and a free 4-month pass from a job (without adding that he most likely paid a few hundred for his university). This guy is not you, you are not in his super privilege position. Get somebody real.

    • @Hdianvciadpei
      @Hdianvciadpei 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah F this guy. You are most likely to get more wisdom reading Nassim Taleb, or Charlie Munger.

    • @brianmcg321
      @brianmcg321 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You have no idea what you’re talking about.