My Thoughts on the Haslab Cantina & its Impact on Figure Prices

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  • The Star Wars Vintage Collection Haslab Cantina is nearing its end and I have thoughts! From the crazy price to the secondary market impact and the product itself, we have a lot to talk about!
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  • @Nerdzoic
    @Nerdzoic  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Are YOU backing the Cantina?

    • @Knowledgeispowersheep
      @Knowledgeispowersheep 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I backed the 499.99 on day one.

    • @ciscodeer9094
      @ciscodeer9094 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      No I don't have enough room

    • @master_grey_wookie2877
      @master_grey_wookie2877 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      No, to me it should have just been a retail playset

    • @Collector_Phil
      @Collector_Phil 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Hell yeah - two for loose figures & sell the diorama pieces. This is a 22 year old dream for me personally, since I started collecting Star Wars figures

    • @ebenfoster9587
      @ebenfoster9587 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Nope

  • @andrewtaylor940
    @andrewtaylor940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    No Bea Arthur figure? Instant pass

    • @bcatalogrecords
      @bcatalogrecords 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Golden girls figures will be through the roof if this funds.

    • @JUSLOFI
      @JUSLOFI 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait till the Holidays.

    • @godofzombi
      @godofzombi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably comming in a marvel legends 2 pack with Deadpool.

  • @Robin0928
    @Robin0928 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Also, I think that one thing Hasbro did really well for this campaign was saying "Hey, next year, TVC is going to have Tattooine Figures that make sense with the cantina" in the announcement. Just reassuring everyone that, even if they arent in the initial package, that other tvc things will be coming to flesh out that display i think helped more than waiting until the last week like the Giant Man campaign

  • @blockbusterunderground
    @blockbusterunderground 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Great review....I brought up a lotta similar points. For myself, being in Canada I cannot justify the nearly $800 Canadian it would cost

  • @xiaocatmaster3754
    @xiaocatmaster3754 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love the way you're back to regular videos. Appreciate your hard work for the hobby!

  • @tigerclaw4537
    @tigerclaw4537 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Said it before and I’ll say it again. This is a HazLab money grab and those that support this overpriced scheme are supporting this behavior for future offerings. The set should have been pushed for about 350 and all the figures should be non-exclusive offerings. Using the sisters and bartender as bait is total BS.

  • @falcongunner33
    @falcongunner33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I see your point on 3D printing. But consider that you can get a really good 3D printer for $500. I got into 3D printing last year and haven’t done any 3D modeling, I just use designs from the very talented artists in the community.
    You might sacrifice some detail in a 3D printed piece as well as additional post processing time, but now you can print an Endor or Hoth diorama. All for maybe a few spools of $20 filament. To me that’s totally worth it. I don’t need crazy high detail to convey the cantina.

    • @carn1fex_
      @carn1fex_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thats the point. I know thats not 'legal' and such but a friend of mine is printing Warhammer 40k and many other things like crazy for himself.
      He even did 'upscaled' version by himself of some MOTU Figures.
      You can get a decend printer for 500$ and you don't need to know anything about '3d modeling' - You can just download the files from the community and print your own stuff - Like the Cantina.

    • @Darthvegeta8000
      @Darthvegeta8000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@carn1fex_ oh yes. Heck for statues I paint of IP's that don't get that much I love picking up 3D printed stuff from Etsy.
      For wargaming as well I pick up 'alternative' models at times.
      Hasbro like GW is way too expensive nowadays for me to go all in on their stuff.

    • @SlashTheWeasel
      @SlashTheWeasel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I 3D print too. I have printed out great deal of Transformer sets and I love my sets so much. So much fun. I support Patreon, Funbie Studios for about $5 month for it. Printers have gotten better over last couple of years. Personally I'm surprised we haven't seen more playsets as STL files to print like for TMNT, Voltron castle of Lions, Thundercats, etc. I've not looked for them personally but be cool.
      I do see the value in HasLab Cantina. The amount of time to print, paint and also the fine details like glasses.

    • @falcongunner33
      @falcongunner33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SlashTheWeasel Yeah 3D printing is a ton of fun. And I totally understand the customer base that wants their stuff to come completed without the need for post processing work. But for me that’s half the fun.

    • @scourgemeltface
      @scourgemeltface 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@carn1fex_does your friend happen to be the guy doing the giant he man display that was featured on toy federation?

  • @shincedon655
    @shincedon655 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I backed it, but I thought after the Ghost fully funding this would be easier to get all extra tiers. But looks like I'm wrong at 7 days left.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Consumer

    • @WompaStompaCyn
      @WompaStompaCyn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@fillerbunnyninjashark271 ... We're all consumers, genius.

    • @Philvis77
      @Philvis77 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think they don't release the foreign sales until the end, which means a big bump.

    • @attacktoaster6274
      @attacktoaster6274 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@Philvis77 not a 8k bump. Very unlikely

  • @perceivedvelocity9914
    @perceivedvelocity9914 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I stopped collecting Star Wars a long time ago. The Black line has been impossible to collect. Unwanted figures are overproduced. High demand figures are under produced. A lot of things are exclusive.

    • @jasond.471
      @jasond.471 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They ALL come off exclusivity sir. Its like..a 90 day contract. And..No figure ive wanted in the Black Series?? Have I ever missed. Of crs? I been at this 4.5 decades. So? Ive learned a thing or two. 😉

  • @LordRockington83
    @LordRockington83 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have zero interest in this Haslab, but I LOVE these breakdowns and just general insight into the toy/adult collectibles business. Keep em coming BN!

  • @StarWarsSanta
    @StarWarsSanta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I'm going to get the Cantina for my Mando collection. I'll be selling the figures in the set to make the Cantina itself very affordable for my Mando set!

    • @lewis17297
      @lewis17297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Knowing us collectors and the crazy prices we pay, I can see each figure going for $100+ each so the cantina may end up being free! 😂😂

    • @johndunlap7670
      @johndunlap7670 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lewis17297 probably more than that since only 15,000 were sold and when people see the sisters aren’t released in the main line they will pay 500 or more for each when they could of had both in the basic set for 400

  • @graefx
    @graefx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's a cool set though I can't help but think that there was a point where this would have been a collect and build diorama type deal. Figures coming with booths or the bar in a 4 pack.
    Not a vintage criticism, but one of my issues with BS has been the articulation changes. Step forwards and steps back. I'll never get over that they made the Mandalorian Armorer unable to do her signature kneeling pose thanks to the single jointed knees.
    Marvel Legends had been bothering me for a while but it seems like they're starting to step up. I don't know if Star Wars due for an upswing or if hindered by the Disney release schedule and IP restrictions. Marvel can dip into obscure or interesting characters but I don't see star wars doing a lot of EU. I'd love some Legacy figures like Cade or new jedi era like Darth Cadeus or historic characters like Exar Kun

  • @frankschuler2867
    @frankschuler2867 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If Hasbro is smart, they'll pump out new versions of those old cantina characters. There's no question as to whether or not it will fund in my mind...curious about how many tiers it will hit. I suspect it will at least hit the Greedo tier. I don't collect TVC, but if I did and if I had the space, I could see myself backing this...at least the basic version.

  • @ForgeMaciejewski
    @ForgeMaciejewski 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think it's way overpriced. I like the stretch goals, but they aren't worth the price of admission

  • @Knowledgeispowersheep
    @Knowledgeispowersheep 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Here’s the bottom line. Too many Star Wars enthusiasts are what makes this line suck. They whine and complain about everything coming out or not coming out. No one is making you buy any Hasbro products regardless of line. I pray this Hazlab makes it to 8001. Not because you whiners but the generations beyond you.

  • @Gaffy05
    @Gaffy05 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Weekly Nerdzoic videos being back is freaking awesome.

  • @VictoriasCantina
    @VictoriasCantina 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanos would be an accurate comparison. Thanks, Nerdy!

  • @wasabi-in-my-eye3134
    @wasabi-in-my-eye3134 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They can keep increasing the price I'll just keep buying less. That's all there is to it. I've been buying toys for decades and I know I can do without them.

  • @squirreltactics
    @squirreltactics 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So, are the figures the actual Tonnika Sisters, or are they Karoly D'ulin and Shada D'ukal dressed as the sisters? The sisters weren't in the cantina scene according to established canon.

    • @JerJerRod1
      @JerJerRod1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's not canon anymore, so these are the actual Tonnika Sisters.

  • @MattCNormand
    @MattCNormand 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Don’t worry about filling out the cantina. I guarantee, GUARANTEE, if the cantina gets funded Hasbro will start trickling out the cantina patrons in future figure assortments because it’ll be easy money. Some of the major, popular characters they’ll remake from the ground up, and others they’ll just reprint and put into smaller sets of 4-6 patrons. There’s precedent of Hasbro doing this. With Galactus they rereleased Tarrax with a new Fallen One, and with Giant Man they made a brand new Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne set up, and most similarly, we’ve seen various releases to go along with Jabba’s Sail Barge over the last several years. If the Cantina funds, the patrons will be easy money for them.

    • @ondrejm5042
      @ondrejm5042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Easy money ? What ? A market of like 5000-10 000 people who would buy a figure they need to sell much much more of via standard channels to make a profit. Sail Barge barely is getting some aliens.

  • @zforce4399
    @zforce4399 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Man I love my BS snow speeder! Would love to see them do the A wing. Probably the smallest ship in the fleet. A little longer than the snow speeder. I would be all over that. But I also wouldn't want to pay more than like $120 for it tops.

  • @starlord157
    @starlord157 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    From a retailer perspective is not worth it at all. You buy it for $400 which is already high, and then trying to resell it for $600 is crazy…

    • @ondrejm5042
      @ondrejm5042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and it would take a lot of storage space, while the same profit could be done be multiple smaller items which would be easier to sell

  • @Arufonsa1
    @Arufonsa1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Yea it’s just going to keep going up. Inflation, oil, and general corporate need for limitless expansion that’s just the way of it.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Corporations will get away with what that consumer allows. No one should have lifted a finger when a multi billion international corporation put the production costs on you

    • @Arufonsa1
      @Arufonsa1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@fillerbunnyninjashark271 We haven’t had the power to influence businesses in the better part of a century. Even “voting with your wallet” has worked a minute amount of times in recorded history.
      I’m not defending the actions clearly made out of greed. But one let’s remember this is about our first world luxury consumer goods. So the stakes have never been lower and the rubicon of entry was probably when this conversation was about insulin. But during those higher stakes conversations effort was made by consumers not to allow this to happen. Well seeing as how people still pass away because they can’t afford it nothing has changed.
      I’m not saying you are wrong to be angry. Just it’s a symptom of a greater issue that requires greater change.

    • @Tim85-y2q
      @Tim85-y2q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then this stuff would never be made. Some people want it bad enough to pay the price and that's their prerogative.

    • @Arufonsa1
      @Arufonsa1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tim85-y2q I’m sure it is and I’m not faulting them in any capacity. It just sucks that it is the way it is right now is all.

  • @pauldouglas9999
    @pauldouglas9999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was under the impression that the stretch goals would be released with different card art?
    Also, I got huge fomo for the Ghost when I happened to see the Razorcrest and Jabba’s sail barge in person. Just beautifully detailed ships with so much presence.
    I think the Cantina should have been released in parts as retail items. Each piece could have included a new figure. I think Haslab should be focused on vehicles. My dream Haslab is a huge Sandcrawler. As it is, I really don’t see the value in the Cantina, I’m passing on it. The only part that hurts is missing out on the figures.

  • @robertott9083
    @robertott9083 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    FYI they did say that the stretch goal figures might be sold at a later date if not unlocked and they'd be on different cards though. The sisters and bar tender are only available with this Haslab.

    • @scockery
      @scockery 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They said if they are unlocked, they could be offered on different cards later.
      We all know they'd remake Greedo anyway.

    • @jimjam51075
      @jimjam51075 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wasn't there some weird licensing problems with the sisters for decades? Like the actresses didn't sign certain releases upon filming and that's why they never made figures all that time?

  • @tydiriumhanger1320
    @tydiriumhanger1320 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would like to hear you thoughts on how collectors handle getting a tax form if they sell an extra one of these down the road for $600 now. Most collectors have never had to deal with that issue but you deal with it every day

  • @jamestaylorjr2521
    @jamestaylorjr2521 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    With display space being a premium at my house. Where do I put it? I don't think a normal shelf will hold it. Do I want it on my coffee table? Maybe just leave it in the box.

  • @artofficialjoe
    @artofficialjoe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Expensive? Yes. Overpriced? No. Now if you’re not a Star Wars collector this will mean very little to you. The three figures included are going to be insanely valuable going forward. They will be worth way more than the total cost of the entire Haslab. The cantina itself could be 3D printed but it would cost you anywhere from $400 to $700 for something comparable to this Haslab. Plus it would be made of cheaper materials and way less in quality. This is not even counting the the 3 or more figures.
    Also the run of this looks like it’s going to be around 12,000 max. This will be super rare and closer to Barge level numbers than it will be to the ghost or razorcrest. The Tonnika sisters will be end up being two of the most valuable modern figures in the line. Any serious Star Wars collector would agree with that.
    So is it worth $4-500? Unequivocally yes. The value of this Haslab will probably be double the minute it ships and the figures especially will continue to increase in value.

  • @RecklessDeck
    @RecklessDeck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think you SLIGHTLY misrepresented the price of the item by saying it was $500 over and over. I think the base price is $400, and the "deluxe" option is $500. I'm glad that overall you were positive about it, and that you said you were psyched by their presentation and backed it yourself. As someone who also skipped the Ghost (but has zero FOMO about it) I'm excited for this one. I think the cantina is about as classic, "core" Star Wars as you can possibly get, I think the end result looks awesome, and I'm very psyched about the figures. I also love playsets, even more than vehicles, and I want it to do well, so we'll see more HasLab playsets in the future.

    • @Eljunkiedelplastico
      @Eljunkiedelplastico 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Base price after taxes is 450-550 don't try to justify and sugar coat it lol

  • @imnotryuu6391
    @imnotryuu6391 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hasbro/Disney know they can get away with charging insane amount of money for barely nothing to Star Wars fans.. did you guys forget about the galactic starcruiser?

  • @georgewaters2533
    @georgewaters2533 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can’t justify the $500.
    Oh, if you’re doing background music, please lower the volume. It felt like your voice was in competition and not always winning.
    Great content, as always!

  • @agathavincent9487
    @agathavincent9487 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People can really print all day long, but it doesn't they know what to do with the prints when they're done. Some people or rather, most people just don't have the talent, and it's just a lot of wasting three d prints and people thinking that they've accomplished something

  • @johntk1140
    @johntk1140 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hasbro’s problem is Lucas film and Disney. I think Disney has way too much control over what gets made and Hasbro going that’s not gonna sell but Disney goes we want it and this is what happens. I think you’d see a lot more vehicles not necessarily new I think you see a lot more original trilogy or prequel trilogy figures that people have been looking for that sort of thing.

    • @omegashenron8
      @omegashenron8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's how I see it too. Lucasfilms is probably VERY controlling.

  • @amazingspidermew
    @amazingspidermew 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    People commenting on having to fill in the set are kinda missing the point of collecting. Yes, having the stuff is the end goal but the journey of building your collection is also an important aspect

    • @scockery
      @scockery 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those are mostly the people who weren't collecting when the released cantina figures came out or were focused on making armies of stormtroopers and clones at the time. (All of which are outdated molds now by "standards" set by collectors). Most people didn't collect 'em all. Some of the cantina aliens were peg warmers and I recall hearing some were even removed from certain stores by Hasbro, and sadly probably destroyed, because they were glutting up the line.

    • @ondrejm5042
      @ondrejm5042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, people who have some of the older figures are more inclining to back it that people who just started collecting. Also it would be different to see this cost a 250-300eur instead of 500 or 600eur for the whole cantina.

    • @ondrejm5042
      @ondrejm5042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scockery In my local toychain the Myo, Feltipern and Danik were pegwarmers, i purchased them like for 2eur or maybe less just for the figure stands to use with other figures which were not sold with a stand.

  • @brew1234567891
    @brew1234567891 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It is awesome. BUT $500 is ridiculous. $350 yes. But this is stupid. I hope it doesn’t make its numbers, not because I don’t want people to have it but Hasbro needs a message sent. Crowd funding from major companies makes me sick anyway.

  • @mechamanblade8465
    @mechamanblade8465 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I liqidated my TVC collection a long time ago. I only collect a little Star Wars. Literally. I like all the space ships, so my focus is on the Micro Galaxy Squadron.

  • @Atlas-hu9wk
    @Atlas-hu9wk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    $150 seems the correct price.

  • @MaximumWarp2099
    @MaximumWarp2099 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I’m flummoxed that Hasbro went with the cantina for a Haslab. $500 is ridiculous for that set. Now if it was a highly detailed Deathstar, Bespin, or Hoth set I can see it being worth that much. Not for a bunch of tables, chairs, and cups.

  • @zufalllx
    @zufalllx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Time to dig out my cantina patrons for the shop 😁

  • @limpx336
    @limpx336 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lol no wasn't the sail barge like 600? This is ridiculous. 😂

  • @edwardstevens80
    @edwardstevens80 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Black Series Haslab Bad Batch 3.75 upscale Omicron Attach Shuttle..... Complete and utter No Brainer 😮💪🔥🔥

  • @keithquirk9823
    @keithquirk9823 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree that the stretch goals bum me out because I just want those figures. And for $500 cool ones, I wish there was more ‘play-ability’ with this set. From the pictures and things, it looks pretty stiff and bland. It’s a few notches above cardboard playset. I would’ve loved to see things like secret doors or other things to give it a PLAYset feel. Different brand but I’m a little bummed by my Super7 turtle van because it lacks any real play features. It’s like 95% perfect to me, but it’s lacking that function that makes it feel like something I MUST play with. Like it just sits on my shelf and collects dust. Looks pretty. But I don’t want to get on the floor and play with it like I do with a Jurassic Park toy or my original turtle van. Vintage SW play sets and vehicles always had play features and I wish they’d bring that back. But hey, maybe I’m the outlier on this

  • @lofiwire7917
    @lofiwire7917 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the content, excellent as always

  • @Collector_Phil
    @Collector_Phil 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You said everything I wanted to hear being said about the situation now with this Haslab and all surrounding it- Bravo🎉

  • @QUINNCOMICSHOP
    @QUINNCOMICSHOP 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great information Matt!!! Thanks for all you do my friend!!! =)

  • @edwardjohnson6744
    @edwardjohnson6744 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It looks WAY too bare bones to be $500

    • @zaboknowsbest13
      @zaboknowsbest13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What do you mean the 75 cups that will be lost instantly don't do it for you??

  • @cejaprime
    @cejaprime 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This haslab is not offering any bang for your buck.

  • @Stygian360
    @Stygian360 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's overpriced for a modular playset. If they had made it a fold-out set where pieces could be pulled off and plays however you want but ultimately it all connects, I think it would have felt more like a thing versus a bunch of disconnected things. I know collectors like to joke about the number of cups and how much of a big deal they made about that but that isn't the central issue. It's really just the fact that it's such a disconnected bunch of things that I don't think people are bridging the Gap in their minds that this thing is worth $500.

  • @paisano777
    @paisano777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    2:58 right?! I was pumped and I don't even do 375s

  • @Chris23513
    @Chris23513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The problem with Haslabs is that we are still treated as the consumer and are paying retail instead of being treated like the retailer. If this went to retail, Wal-Mart would need to buy 20,000 sets and they would not be selling it for $799 they would be selling it for the $399 while buying them for around $180 a pop. 20,000 x$180= $3.6 Million. Haslab needs 8,000 sets bought to cover the costs which is essentially the retail buy in 8,000 x 400= $3,200,000 which covers all costs and anything over the 8k sells is profit and much more profit then they would make a retail. And every sell is a guarantee sell which is a shame why Haslab over charges us by so much. The regular Cantina should of been $350 with all 6 figures included as bonuses no matter if we hit the goal or not plus an extra 3 figure add on pack of cantina patrons in a special action figure 3 pack box set for $49 to make the $399 price tag- 450 for the "complete" cantina and $499 with all 9 figures included (Special Action figure set would include: walrus man (reissued), dr. Everzan (sp?) (reissued) and hammerhead (new Sculpt) so we have plenty of characters to inhabit the bar when we get it

    • @ondrejm5042
      @ondrejm5042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a very good point. The question is only how big are the regular retail runs for such big toys.

    • @Chris23513
      @Chris23513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ondrejm5042 I don't know but if Walmart has over 4,000 locations and target has nearly 2,000 from just those two big box stores you can assume at least 24,000 total units would be produced and that is only 4 set per store... Look at the Barbie dream house during Christmas in the 2010s- every Walmart had at least 12 of them so that's like a production run of at least 50k for only Walmart every year and that cheap unpainted plastic house that kept getting reissued year after year with minor differences went for like $129/$149.

  • @havocdogg
    @havocdogg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Plain and simple, Haslab's a scam and Hasbro admitted it. Stretch goals were always factored into the initial offering price. Whether they get unlocked or not you have paid for them. That doesn't even factor in how unfinished it looks with all the structural plastic showing. This is not what they told us Haslab would be. This is far from a dream product, it looks like any other almost plain plastic offering they have had on shelves before

  • @Paragon132
    @Paragon132 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    As someone who's made a side hustle of 3d printing, a modern Bambu printer could easily print this for 1/3 of the price. Sure the files may not all be there but it's more than possible

  • @jime6688
    @jime6688 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I refuse to crowd fund ANY big corporation. They should make it and offer it in stores for a reasonable price(at least more reasonable than THIS!).

    • @ondrejm5042
      @ondrejm5042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thare is no profit in such move. No retailer would purchase this at that price and then hope to sell it a make few bucks out of it. Crowdfunding / preordering is OK method for such product, just the price or the offer for the price is not right here.

    • @jime6688
      @jime6688 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ondrejm5042 still will never do it for a big company. Hasbro should be ashamed.

  • @BrappyHour
    @BrappyHour 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:15
    Never underestimate the power of fandom.

  • @pg_too
    @pg_too 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m still baffled by this choice. I think they executed it very well, I just don’t see the value at the price point. I really feel like SW fans continue to be taken advantage of at the highest price point for HLs. 🤷‍♂️

  • @robertdickson9319
    @robertdickson9319 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with you on the price - $500 is steep, but it was for the Ghost too and I think that has far less "playability" than the Cantina does. Yet it sold 21K pcs. I'll be getting it. I think this one is struggling primarily due to the bonus tiers - other than an exclusive piece of cardboard there is no incentive there. These will almost assuredly be released at a later date, in another pkg. IMO they should have rethought the bonuses.

  • @raymondjones5909
    @raymondjones5909 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Definitely over priced like most haslabs

  • @sci-fi.tsunami
    @sci-fi.tsunami 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A New Hope was released when I was 5. I've seen it a million times. And there was never 1 time in my entire life that I was sitting there watching the cantina scene and said "I want a toy of that" I didn't even want the original cantina playset.

    • @mikeygROCNY
      @mikeygROCNY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But you want the toys of the characters in the scene? 😂

  • @Thrawns_Office
    @Thrawns_Office 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm thinking of picking this up as a companion for the Ghost. There's nothing to say that they couldn't have stopped in there on one of their many adventures

    • @xancypillosi9497
      @xancypillosi9497 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don’t u wish u had the sail barge

    • @Thrawns_Office
      @Thrawns_Office 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xancypillosi9497 it would be cool to have for sure

  • @CVMGAM
    @CVMGAM 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I prefer a lower production vs. getting the unlocks.

  • @darancampbell2672
    @darancampbell2672 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lego is cheaper and better.

  • @princenamor1939
    @princenamor1939 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did they charge you at the end of the campaign or when it ships?

  • @jbbarnes1067
    @jbbarnes1067 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't get the GI Joe Dragonfly. Of course, now I'm collecting GI Joe! So, I guess I'll pay double!! FOMO

  • @UsualmikeTelevision
    @UsualmikeTelevision 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice one Big Nerdy! I have backed the cantina 💪

  • @mr.nobody5669
    @mr.nobody5669 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When the cantina was revealed the 3d printing artists i follow on patreon have bben posting Cantina diorama STL files. Im going to attempt a Black Series scale eventually. But likely ill be done before the TVC release in fall 2025.

  • @AlphamagnusCreations
    @AlphamagnusCreations 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not into this scale at all. Just wanted to drop this. Your email at midnight last night got me to buy a cosmic legion figure from you, BBTS just announced the same sale😅. Way to hustle and gain a customer. Your order already shipped, my pile of loot from last week hasn’t shipped yet… so maybe changing some preorders!

  • @jasond.471
    @jasond.471 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also?. I have this crazy cardboard set of the cantina.. That unfolds...and snaps into place! From the middle Bar...to the booths and tables!(so detailed? You know where to sit your Han and greedos) its a work of art! And..Was gifted to me at a toy con! What a day! And..What a Amazing piece!😊 all set on this thAng

  • @SlashTheWeasel
    @SlashTheWeasel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope HasLab Cantina is funded. I see the value of this set and I'm not huge into HasLab. I 3D print and printed my own Transformers play sets which is lot of work and I would hate to put price tag on my stuff. But I really enjoy putting my TFs in it. To fill out the Cantina, use whatever figures from whatever fandom. Jem, Aliens, X-Men, whomever can come in for drink. Local stores and cons are great places. Hasbro will probably release bar patrons for this too within the year.

  • @Barada73
    @Barada73 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even if the Haslab doesn't make it, Hasbro still needs to find some way to get those figures out to fans.
    As for me, I would have to put the entire thing on a credit card, which I could do easily, but I'm currently trying to pay off my credit cards. Plus, I have no space for it. I was 50/50 on whether I would back it, when it was announced. Now the chances that I will back it are more like 5-10%.

  • @paulschaefer5485
    @paulschaefer5485 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    2 dollars worth plastic 20 dollars worth of labor equals 500 dollars

  • @ADAM_COLLECTS
    @ADAM_COLLECTS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People complain about space for the cantina, but black series are just a little too large for beasts and vehicles, honestly, speeder bikes fit on shelves, but would a X wing? Maybe. AT ST. probably not. Millennium Falcon? NFW.

  • @ondrejm5042
    @ondrejm5042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No yet. I could have the funds but im not convinced on the offer. I have a LEGO UCS cantina which has even outer walls and a nearby building and vehicles still in box waiting to be build and displayed. I dont feel like i need to have it no matter what. And im not a big fan of preorder and wait a year to get your stuff. Also there is no good market for the 3.75" figures here in Europe. With lego i can get on BrickLink and order anything i need for a reasonable price and there are tons of sellers from Europe, even from my country. Maybe if SW collecting had such a dedicated marketplace (not eBay, thats not like it) i would see more value in this thing.
    I also like the Nabrun and Arleil more that the Tonikas and for not its clear we wont get it.
    Ill wait for a possible better offer from Hasbro, if they come up with something worth the money ill back it, or if all of a sudden there is 17K backers and i would get all the figures with the purchase.

  • @FenrirFire18
    @FenrirFire18 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Starting to get burnt-out on collecting, again. If you like TMNT for example, you'd know how much money you'd need just to collect the new figs put out by different brands this year, alone.
    Now we have to cough $ up for these weasels?

  • @mrcydonia
    @mrcydonia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Star Wars figure collecting isn't a game for people who don't have much money. I'm glad I'm finally at a point in my life when I can afford it. I'm really wondering if the cantina is going to get to 8000 backers. It's at 6603 with a week left. I hope I'm wrong.

  • @DaBigCheeso
    @DaBigCheeso 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The DDPY joke popped me :)

  • @MaximumSpdr
    @MaximumSpdr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For a collector, why is this needed?? Like the Rancor, it doesn’t hold any significance in the overall story of Star Wars. It’s just something that appears in the films. You don’t need figures of background characters or play sets of every single location of every single scene of these movies.

  • @CowleyStudentJ
    @CowleyStudentJ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think 5he price is based on how much they had to pay for the rights to the sister's likeness. They're passing that cost onto us. I believe the entire cantina set shouldn't be more than $350-400 at the most.

  • @normanf.diazbelot7657
    @normanf.diazbelot7657 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Matt, I would love to back it, but right now it is impossible for me, but I hope it funds. Also, I have been gradually getting out of 3.75 collecting.

  • @everything3_3.4or18scale
    @everything3_3.4or18scale 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seriously black series vehicles are going to be much larger, as large as the cantina, and if you don't want to fund the cantina because of size. Well you might as well quit. Black series are awesome figures but you can't really do alot with them. Small dioramas nothing major world building.

  • @britmiller1489
    @britmiller1489 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your pronunciation has me in tears!!

  • @JTpopCULT
    @JTpopCULT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t want it for that price but if people want it I hope it getsfunded. I never got the “if we don’t buy it Hasbro will start dropping prices!” No. They won’t. Also the 3d print thing sure you can make it but to me it’s like buying a cheap print at a swap meet of a mondo poster. I don’t really want them.

  • @Rancorkeeper117
    @Rancorkeeper117 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why can’t Hasbro focus more on the retro nostalgia vintage collection with action figures, different world playsets, and never released larger ships.

  • @popculturehero
    @popculturehero 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    From within the 3.25 inch star wars community there are custom diorama buildings that can be $300 but their unique, painted and sculpted with multiple elements and lighting.
    Granted its not a scene from the movies. But I kind of prefer the originality. The Cantina is a bit of an old trope, and it looks like a dated toy because they have made smaller sets like it before.

  • @mustang_orbit170
    @mustang_orbit170 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Given that it is such a high end item, all the Alcove Outer Walls should be textured/weathered. Not just the main entrance.
    Dioramas could extend to outside of the cantina, using the textured/weathered walls.

  • @divisionwolpertinger579
    @divisionwolpertinger579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video and very thoughtful opinion, you convinced me and gained a subscriber.
    Thanks and greetings from Germany.

  • @IsaacLong-jv9xr
    @IsaacLong-jv9xr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Matt I just have a question for you do you know if you will get Neca tmnt last ronin splinter instock??? I have literally looked everywhere on the internet and when I say everywhere I mean everywhere and I can’t find it

  • @jaritime1406
    @jaritime1406 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The reason the Razorcrest and other Disney Star Wars has no value .. its NOT Star Wars its Disney Star Wars people really need to stop dead naming Star Wars the Bigots ;')

  • @JustTiisLeague
    @JustTiisLeague 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toys aren’t fun anymore. Kids don’t buy it, the adults do. If they’re meant to be displayed on shelves and not played with, there’s no sense playing with them and calling them toys.

  • @miklawson211
    @miklawson211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All that money and no floor! I might have been able to afford to buy if given more time but seeing as i don't have the same to display it, i might have considered buying but then as some one pointed out there were 96 aliens iin the Bar scene.I have none.

  • @grrrraffe
    @grrrraffe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keclar..... 😢
    Hope all the figures unlock for those backing this thing. Good luck!

  • @netacid11
    @netacid11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I knew a guy who made his years ago. Its not hard and looks just like that. But some people want to spend half a grand on a Star Wars restaurant, I guess. Not me, though.

  • @markoutwithmark
    @markoutwithmark 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel bad for Hasbro because Kathleen Kennedy has systematically destroyed most of the appetite for Star Wars merchandise.

  • @thelunaist2014
    @thelunaist2014 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a Lego set you can still get that's 400, which is crazy expensive for Lego but is really large.

  • @adamlw7181
    @adamlw7181 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the c3po you show is worth 300 dollars and hasnt been available since the ice age lol. Talk about easy to get eh? You dont have a clue;

  • @mikey9906
    @mikey9906 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey i have an idea for black series, give us more jedi and sith characters, and characters from the video games. Or remake that shitty general grievous

  • @BobbyCoolBreeze
    @BobbyCoolBreeze 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Figures will fetch $$$ and I’ll sell the base cantina under price to bring the cost down for figure.

  • @diyapia
    @diyapia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just want the Star Whores but in retro 1978 molding….I’ve waited way too long….

  • @codyerickson3550
    @codyerickson3550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like the offerings should be about $100 less than what they’re listed for: $300 for the base version and $400 for the deluxe sounds reasonable

  • @mikey9906
    @mikey9906 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really want marvel legends to make a 12 inch sentinel, i know its not properly to scale but i think it would still be cool

  • @darthlazlo
    @darthlazlo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    $500 should include all the figures and maybe even 2 or 3 more at 8K backed.