yeah, only it won't happen. Zoom already has a video chat software, why on earth would they put money into giving keybase a video chat feature (effectively making it a free and open source competitor to its own closed source commercial product)?
Zoom is a dumpster fire. Zoom bought a fire extinguisher company, and threw the engineers into the dumpster fire. Will they put the fire out, or be consumed by it? We'll find out next time, on Dumpster Fire Z!
Wow this is interesting news, i first heard of Keybase on your channel and started using it earlier this year because it filled a need to chat with my team securely, I hope Zoom doesnt ruin it like other large companies have done with some products. Like yourself I will keep using it but we'll have to keep an eye on it.
Matrix network has clients RiotX for Android and Riot.im for web browser and desktop. RiotX recently turned on encryption cross-signing by default. If you need something simple to replace Zoom there is also Jitsi Meet. When you video conference from any Matrix client the Jitsi video conference component is the most common way it connects anyways. If you don't need the groupware features of Matrix you can just do a simple Jitsi Meet videoconference. Either one uses the Jitsi technology. Most important are the Jitsi and Matrix technology are open standards and can be self-hosted. The Matrix developer team has regular streamed video meetings: th-cam.com/channels/VFkW-chclhuyYRbmmfwt6w.html
@@kexec. Riot web client is just a static page that connects to a Matrix instance. It stores everything on local storage, you can even self-host the client, and you can even self-host your own instance.
I agree with most of what you say. But you've missed the fact that while the clients are open source, their server code is all proprietary. We need them to open source the servers. See the petition and the discussion at github.com/keybase/client/issues/24105
Saying that Keybase is open-source is a bit misleading. The clients are open-source, but the back-end is proprietary and closed-source. Although the clients, as you mentioned, are designed to not trust the server.
@6:18 If that were to happen you'll hopefully make a video update about it right? Hopefully it doesn't change though, change as in doing away with its privacy and encryption, or you know, they start charging $ for it; positive changes as in improvements for the users and more features will always be welcome of course, I think.
Yeah, let's not mention Zoom's terrible "video encyption"... :D Hopefully Zoom makes their product actually do what they say it's supposed to do. I won't touch it with a 40' pole...
Wally Hunt ?? This makes literally no sense lmfao. Maybe brush up on your crypto my guy. If Keybase doesn’t have access to your per user keys, why would a zoom acquisition change that? No priv key? No access to “all your data”. Maybe uh, do some research before pushing out sinophobic rhetoric. This might help you brush up: book.keybase.io/docs/teams/puk
All of Zoom’s servers and software developers are in China and the CCP mandates they store all of your data for at least a year or for as long as the CCP says, if your data is particularly interesting. Now they have an encryption tool to promote and exploit.
Paul Surinamo cool, and what does that have anything to do with Keybase which if I am not mistaken is built on Stellar’s Lightning network which leverages an algo called consensus. If a batch of new validation nodes suddenly appeared on the network in China, you’d be able to see it, adding to that, the consensus algo is resistant to 51% attacks. Going even further than that, keybase avoids issues that arise with Trust-On-First-Use. Not sure if there is any evidence that support your claims there bud. No evidence that servers are being relocated to China, and no evidence to suggest that keybase even could share your private/paper keys that they do not have access to in the first place. Do more research before pushing out anti-Chinese rhetoric. Also, if you’re scared about privacy laws, methinks this should be of greater concern to you: www.eff.org/nsa-spying
I really like the encrypted git repo's. Adding voice/video chat will make keybase.io nearly an all in 1 collaboration tool.
yeah, only it won't happen. Zoom already has a video chat software, why on earth would they put money into giving keybase a video chat feature (effectively making it a free and open source competitor to its own closed source commercial product)?
Zoom is a dumpster fire.
Zoom bought a fire extinguisher company, and threw the engineers into the dumpster fire.
Will they put the fire out, or be consumed by it? We'll find out next time, on Dumpster Fire Z!
I don't allow zoom on my network.
Yes please use anything else, WebEx, Google Meeting, Teams, Skype.
Zoom has too much weirdness around it that throws up red flags for me.
Wow this is interesting news, i first heard of Keybase on your channel and started using it earlier this year because it filled a need to chat with my team securely, I hope Zoom doesnt ruin it like other large companies have done with some products. Like yourself I will keep using it but we'll have to keep an eye on it.
I don't think Zoom will fund development of Keybase and ruin it. It might go deprecated..
@@discy12345 I think Zoom would sell Keybase if it didn't want it, instead of trashing it, and I think Stellar would be a potential new owner.
@@ivanavalos3911 how do you sell an open source project? Everyone who wants it can get its source code from github.
I'm a Keybase user. I'll get a try to Riot.im. Mozilla Firefox teams use this tool since last year.
Or Mattermost
Matrix network has clients RiotX for Android and Riot.im for web browser and desktop. RiotX recently turned on encryption cross-signing by default. If you need something simple to replace Zoom there is also Jitsi Meet. When you video conference from any Matrix client the Jitsi video conference component is the most common way it connects anyways. If you don't need the groupware features of Matrix you can just do a simple Jitsi Meet videoconference. Either one uses the Jitsi technology. Most important are the Jitsi and Matrix technology are open standards and can be self-hosted. The Matrix developer team has regular streamed video meetings: th-cam.com/channels/VFkW-chclhuyYRbmmfwt6w.html
@@kexec. Riot web client is just a static page that connects to a Matrix instance. It stores everything on local storage, you can even self-host the client, and you can even self-host your own instance.
I agree with most of what you say. But you've missed the fact that while the clients are open source, their server code is all proprietary. We need them to open source the servers. See the petition and the discussion at github.com/keybase/client/issues/24105
Yesterday, I received an email from Mozilla, who said they had been “helping Zoom with security & accountability”...
Fudge, we all know what that means....
Mozilla is a pretty decent company, that seems like good news?
Saying that Keybase is open-source is a bit misleading. The clients are open-source, but the back-end is proprietary and closed-source. Although the clients, as you mentioned, are designed to not trust the server.
@6:18 If that were to happen you'll hopefully make a video update about it right? Hopefully it doesn't change though, change as in doing away with its privacy and encryption, or you know, they start charging $ for it; positive changes as in improvements for the users and more features will always be welcome of course, I think.
that's where I come in
Zoo had a security problem
Unfortunately the server side is NOT open source github.com/keybase/client/issues/24105
Hello.Write a tutorial on Bigbluebutton in conjunction with Pfsense
Thanks
I don't have a choice but my school is finally making better security settings compulsory.
Good explanation Tom!
Do you still use keybase? Do you recommend it?
I think the project is completely dead now.
Funny enough I asked infenet about this the day the news dropped
I thought this was an April fool's joke... :-(
Same, I woke up to this new and thought I was dreaming or it was sort of a joke. I was so sad an upset.
Yeah, let's not mention Zoom's terrible "video encyption"... :D Hopefully Zoom makes their product actually do what they say it's supposed to do. I won't touch it with a 40' pole...
The problem with zoom is that CCP can have its hands on all the conversation. ZOOM is CCP funded from behind.
hahahahaha x7 likes!
Second and a half
Omg! I'm speechless. This sux! I'm devastated. I'm not using keybase anymore.
Great! Now the Red Army can securely get all my data...
Wally Hunt ??
This makes literally no sense lmfao.
Maybe brush up on your crypto my guy. If Keybase doesn’t have access to your per user keys, why would a zoom acquisition change that? No priv key? No access to “all your data”.
Maybe uh, do some research before pushing out sinophobic rhetoric.
This might help you brush up:
book.keybase.io/docs/teams/puk
@@gh0stificati0n They can make the clients closed-source, so you would never know if your private keys were being shared.
@@gh0stificati0n right...because open source software cannot be exploited
All of Zoom’s servers and software developers are in China and the CCP mandates they store all of your data for at least a year or for as long as the CCP says, if your data is particularly interesting. Now they have an encryption tool to promote and exploit.
Paul Surinamo cool, and what does that have anything to do with Keybase which if I am not mistaken is built on Stellar’s Lightning network which leverages an algo called consensus.
If a batch of new validation nodes suddenly appeared on the network in China, you’d be able to see it, adding to that, the consensus algo is resistant to 51% attacks. Going even further than that, keybase avoids issues that arise with Trust-On-First-Use.
Not sure if there is any evidence that support your claims there bud.
No evidence that servers are being relocated to China, and no evidence to suggest that keybase even could share your private/paper keys that they do not have access to in the first place.
Do more research before pushing out anti-Chinese rhetoric. Also, if you’re scared about privacy laws, methinks this should be of greater concern to you:
www.eff.org/nsa-spying
Oh wow. I deleted my Keybase account before Zoom acquired Keybase.
First!
Yep