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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- There's a new endgame mode in Genshin, so of course I had to see if I could beat it on my Polearms Only account. Annoyingly, it is not particularly straightforward to do, though...
I will be occasionally streaming non-genshin stuffs on my Twitch! (maybe, my internet kinda garbo rn) / soruruna
Polearms Only Playlist: • Polearms Only
#imaginariumtheater #confusesmealot #polearmsonly #genshinimpact #hoyocreators - เกม
How to beat the theatre:
Step 1: Lose
Step 2: Level up characters and equip them with artifacts
Step 3: Win
Step 4: Forget whos artifacts you put on your characters
Step 5: Confusion
Step 6: Rebuild all your characters
Step 7: Cry
Step 8: Grab a rope
Step 9: Grab a chair
Step 10: Go to the nearest tree
Step 11: Make a swing
Step 12: Be happy :D
How do i make a swing with a whole chair?
Holy what a comment lol
@@SrtaElaineOh boy...
@SrtaElaine I don't think that's what they meant...😳
Tbh it would be nice if there were a way to save build loadouts
Amazing how this mode forces certain elements, so you have to change your builds if you havent built for overload but we still don't have artifact loadouts
Indeed. It’s incredible how they managed to make this mode highlight the lack of loadouts even more
This gamemode just tests if you have your characters leveled up
Yep pretty much
I dont even have the characters needed why did they straight up lock the mode behind gacha😭
The main thing I like about this gamemode is that sometimes I end up using characters in unorthodox ways. I do wish they allowed us to enter each stage with fewer than 4 characters. The previous limited time event that used this same vigor system allowed for that - I feel like the flexibility would be a positive. I understand they're trying to get us to "use" almost all the characters, but in the case that we roll our strongest characters in the early pool, we might prefer to run smaller parties to save certain characters for later stages.
Also I had a similar reaction to the water critters, thinking it would be good for reaction damage and then struggling with how much constant damage they dealt to me.
Yeah this is the main fun of it that they should lean into with more generic buffs that do something relevant lol
HOLY CRAP, THATS MY XIAO!! I'm glad to know he was useful!! little guy was my first 5 star :)
Lol ty
as someone who really ONLY levels and builds characters I like, imaginarium theater is really annoying cause I can only get through the easy mode. So now I’m forced to build and level characters I would never care about before. And the element limitation is also annoying for the future I have so few for certain elements. I’m not joking when I say I have 4 hydro characters and only 1 of them is a 5 star.
The hardest part of this mode is gacha all the characters you need and then level them to 70. This mode is such a disappointment both in fun factor (since boons are worthless and irrelevant, not to mention the lack of decisions around teams) and difficulty wise (enemies are so low HP feel like level 8 of abyss).
Looking at how many polearm characters there are in each element currently
5 Pyro, 3 Cryo, 2 Geo, 2 Electro, 2 Dendro(if we count Emilie), 1 Anemo and 1 Hydro.
I think we might have problem if the restricted element be Anemo, Hydro and Geo/Electro/Dendro.
The next one is anemo/hydro/cryo which I honestly think it’s the worst combo possible for the account. I guess Geo would be worse than Cryo, but Geo/Dendro has a mix of dmg dealing (yunjin buff, Emilie) and survivability (zhongli/yaoyao) which could be relevant to clear Theater.
Rosaria, Shenhe, and Mika, on the other hand. With only Candace and Xiao on top of that, Id basically need to solo every single act with one of those 4 characters. Mika may unironically be useful for a few, but Rosaria and Shenhe are not very strong on their own-they need a specific team around them. And this gameplay mode doesnt offer relevant enough buffs to make powering them up to a level enough that makes up for the lack of a real team.
@@Solunerra I think it's possible that they might make buffs bigger and flashier in the future but at the same time, they would make enemies stronger to match up those buffs. So, I guess it would pretty difficult for weapon only account to do real weapon only run. Unless they release more characters in faster rate.
Them letting you not take enough characters would be interesting especially for challenge runs. Like having Required number but then have a max number you can take. Add it to the simple tweak list!
Also the thing with the forced 4 characters in a party, i was using my friends c6 freedom sworn kazuha and i was like “oh cool! Itll be fun to atleast try to solo this” but nope you HAVE to have 4 characters in a party. So incredibly dumb
It was done to specifically prevent scenario like this, or people would solo all 8 battles with 4 hyperinvested charcters only .
Yeah I agree. The fact that I can just solo with high investment characters for most of it illustrates how pointless it is imo. I am fine with forced 4 characters if they removed the level 70 requirement though. Just too many layers of restrictions with character use
Arlecchino is so crazy it literally looks like you're popping balloons w her
I think with how its seen as fine to use Sucrose's passive in crafting enemy drops on these challenge accounts that the penalty of having to raise unused characters to 70 doesnt invalidate it being an "x weapon only" account.
I don’t think it invalidates it, but it’s against the philosophy still. I’d rather pretend I’m playing a game where none of the other characters exist. It’s fine as it is, but unsatisfying to me. Also the resource cost is really bad potentially, so Id really like to see the level 70 requirement removed
Tbh I feep bad for people that have challenges like: mono pyro, mono hydro, etc. They just can't do theater => they get not so many primos as they used to before theater
If you were on Europe I would have loved to give you my physicak Thoma 😭 he does 15k charge attack so he prolly would have managed to solo.
Physical thoma probably would’ve been better in hindsight lol
Actually I believe Thoma is principal cast so you can’t actually share him. Go check your friends’ shares and see if you can find a single principal cast member in there to verify, I didn’t find a single one on mine. Sucks because I have built C6 Faruzan (and C4 Wanderer and C6 Thoma) that no one gets to use and gets stuck with the shitty C0 trial version of that I doubt would have enough ER.
@@a-non6238 ohhhhh, so that's why he was missing when I did it for my friend.... thanks for explaining
7:08 emilie is in the second phase 💀
I think where it went a little wrong was the monolith one. You worried a bit much about the big hilichurls, which A) have more hp and the shield so take longer to kill and B) will happily target you instead of the monolith. So you could have focused mostly on the little ones, and doing so probably have done it with Cyno + a pyro polearm user. Which would have saved a dose of Arl vigor for later. Though using up Thoma's vigor early also hurt a bit, since he's one of your few defensive options. Sucks he's one of the starting 6 in a way.
Yeah I agree, I definitely undervalued Thoma. And I actually cut out quite a bit of stuff with the hilichurl defense stuff. It was enough of a struggle that I decided to just use Arle to clear it.
I guess if it's primarily a matter of your own enjoyment, it doesn't make sense to try this mode again, especially when you'll have to do so with an elemental roster that doesn't favour polearms.
Still, I did enjoy this video. How you actually seriously try to navigate the restriction as part of the challenge is what sets Polearms Only apart from some similar single weapon challenge accounts on youtube.
I'm pretty sure this is only possible when pyro is allowed. I don't think polearms only can do it without pyro.
I think it will depend on the enemies too a bit, but yeah most likely its only doable with pyro lol
gg!
Next theaters, you can just ignore this mode in Polearms Only, imo. Or you can just do some highlights if there is anything you'd like to show. But I think having to level up characters you don't use is a waste of resources. So probably not doing it is better, I guess? And the content is not exactly challenging, right?
The most difficult part is getting your characters, but imagine if they make a Dendro/Hydro/Geo one, what could you do?
Indeed, I will probably tackle the normal difficulty mode during livestreams in the future, and only would consider future edited videos if Theater gets significant changes
I cant wait for the burning comps youll do cuz in second half of 4.8 Emilie who is a dendro burning polearm is coming out
idk how to star rail team pumps out incredible new endgame modes every few months and genshin had 3 years to cook up this clunky mess of a game mode lmao
Yet I hear plenty people calling apocalyptic shadow and the new divergent universe mid and easy. Funny how that works.
You mean the same way ToF came out and people started saying genshin is bad? Oh yeah it's like People's initial impression of something isn't always that accurate...
Yeah, my rambling stuff I cut out at the end included a bit at how confused I was about how they have done so much with HSR that is not all amazing, but nothing that felt this bad, and its all stuff theyve added in a little over a year lol. Do the different teams at Hoyo just not talk to each at all? Its kinda crazy to me just how different the approach seems to be, so it has just left me confused. I saw their hoyolab post about Theater feedback, but tbh what they said in it doesnt really acknowledge much of the core issues to a degree that gives me confidence they will make it more interesting, remove arbitray restrictions, or whatever. We shall see though
hsr endgame is overheated is just moc variants ,the new su is fun
i really love starrail but apocalyptic shadow is NOT a good endgame mode and is a bit dissapointing
Funny thing... emilie, the character coming out in the first half of 4.8 is indeed a polearm character
she is in the 2nd half
I know lol, she is who I was referencing, but she is second half, which gives me time to prefarm (no need for fragiles)
@@Solunerra hey buddy, I was wondering if I could contact you for one of your fixing accounts thing, I tried to do it myself but I apparently suck at it
Nooo, I think that it was interesting! Its very meaningful that you were able to clear it using just polearm characters cause it shows how doable ImgTheater really is for everyone thats complaining. It isnt hard.
Yeah right now I dont think the mode is hard, it just is uninteresting because despite it seemingly being designed around incentivizing building and using many different units, the easiest method for success is just using hyperinvested units anyways lol. Its so fundamentally flawed in its design that its uninteresting to play to me. The first time clearing is interesting-hence why I made the video-but after that? I dont want to have to level a ton of non polearm units to 70 in a combat mode that doesnt even have any fun buffs going on that can make these unoptimal teams (as a side effect of rng, not just the polearms restriction) more fun to play. I would love to continue doing every Theater at the highest difficulty on polearms only if they removed the level 70 requirement though
@@Solunerrabased on the dev blog, they should hopefully iterate and improve it
This series has motivated me to try polearms only. I was thinking of trying to beat abyss with only guaranteed/starter characters but I think that’s too difficult. I’ve made a rule for myself that I can’t make a second account until I get my first 36 stars and since I’m really close to it, I’m going to start preparing. Hopefully we get a hydro polearm in Natlan so I’m not forced to pray for Candace’s return!!
I’m hopeful your Emilie pulls go well considering you’re not lacking in Pyro polearms but could use a Dendro that isn’t Yaoyao, and at least there’s a chance you’ll get Kachina for free so you won’t have to worry about pulling for her on a banner without a 5* polearm user (unless Zhongli and Kachina are in the same half of the patch but then again idk if you want his cons? I got his C2 by sheer accidental luck and it makes his shielding somehow even easier than it was before but it’s definitely not necessary)
6:26 no, it's 2.55 per boss
14:05 it's partially because you kept bursting too late to catch the particles from your skills since Xiao consumes the energy late into his burst animation
Also you can change builds during the theater but not after you selected a fight but you can say : I will choose this fight with these enemies so let me build X character accordingly and then you select the fight, what it means is that if your build doesn't work, you can't change once you've tried it
they should add invite 3 people in hard mode for newer players
Beat it: Easily, it's like floor 9 with randomizer except you've leveled the characters
You qualifying for it: As expected...
Pretty much yeah
Try turning on brief describtions when reading the boosts. Saves a lot of time
Hmm fair, usually brief is worse but since they barely matter anyways it probably is better to just read them faster lol
I would love to play in Imaginarium Theater to the end, but I don't have enough characters to use, especially since most of them are still super weak. If I could play with my strong characters all the time it wouldn't be a problem 😑
btw, if I invite a guest player and then cancel him, I can no longer invite other characters from this player ... Only next month, Hoyo is such a .... >:
Hey just a question. I have a ar37 acc with arlecchino and alhaitham as my only 2 5 stars. Want to do a vape team for arle so going to pull for yelan but furina is out rn and I have the wishes Is it worth the pull for alhaitham?
woo polearms only
I am missing 2 charactes to do the hardest difficulty bc I don't want to lvl up any characters that I don't use last lvl 69
You use them in this mode, filler character theatre
Maybe make a video everytime they update the elements required? If you want to obviously. It doesn’t seem like you like this gamemode much so no pressure.
24:03 frog eating chevreuse's brain😁
that arle is CRAZY.
this is a pretty fair solution
I was thinking of doing it on my Catalyst only account. But tbh i'm not sure if it's possible, because there aren't many dps in these elements.
There're only 2 pyro characters (i don't have Klee, so i'll have to take her from any of my friends assuming some one has her with good build and all. My Yanfei is top4% on Europe, she'll be fine), 2 electro characters (I built my Lisa as a burst support dps, so i'm not sure if it's possible with her alone, she's also only c4, and that's a huge loss on dps from her E, because i don't have extra levels on it. Yae is good as a reactor tbh, so soloing with her would be tough, probably will have to get her on emblem set), and 4 anemo characters (Wanderer is fine at least mine. Xianyun can play as a dps if needed. Problem lies with Heizhou, because mine is not properly built and is c0, and with Sucrose who is not a dps, like at all). This makes it 8 + i can claim Baizhu and Wriothesley as additional characters = 10. Thinking that probably i'll need either Baizhu or Xianyun survive till the end + 1 electro + either Yanfei or Klee, it'll be like hell mostly. The only one that can heal himself is Wriothesley. I dunno what strategy to use here, and of course it makes me sad that i need to lvl up some non-catalyst characters on the account (i believe i have Xiangling, Bennet, Beidou and Fischl, i have Diluc and Jean as a 5*, but honestly i don't remember who else i have, because frankly speaking my account was kinda lucky with catalyst characters, so i overall got duplicates of those i already have be it those i need or don't need, i don't have that many characters on the account). I think i'll try to beat it, but catalyst characters are less agile than polearm are, i doubt it'll be easy.
i always thought it was crazy that people chose water critters 😂 those things have mad aoe dmg in groups
personally there’s a lot of things i really like about imaginarium theater, but the gameplay itself is kinda the least interesting thing about it to me. i’m much more here for the cool set dressing and new music and character voicelines lmao
I'm new so I didn't have enough characters leveled up to play so i spent a bunch of resources getting some characters up and now I kinda ended up using most of my resources and i will probably need to grind for some lmao. it hurts.
I really wish you could enter certain stages with less than 4 characters, not just for polearms only but it feels so restrictive. It’d be nice to make one stage “harder” so your next cycle has more options
23:48 I really wish we would be able to change artifacts after each act
for the nearly 4 years that this game has been out the only thing you needed was 2 good teams to beat the hardest content. Only 8 characters. The logical thing to do was to just pull cons and weapons for the 8 characters you use in abyss and you don't need anything else, but if you did that and invested all those primogems, you are just completely screwed over in this new mode despite the game never incentivizing you to have a wide variety of built characters. Luckily I don't pull for cons and weapons so I can manage but it's just frustrating that the players who did what was optimal for 3+ years are now punished for it.
Glad you had enough characters to naturally get into the first stage, but still upset for you that you can’t bring just your well built polearms further than easy. Tho the struggle on hard after leveling some undesirables is entertaining to watch.
As for my own challenge account, yah I’m never getting in which is sooooooo obnoxious cuz Abyss has been here the whole time but isn’t gatekept by all these BS do nothing rules so I can get through with at least 18-21 stars consistently. That doesn’t seem like a lot so I should mention the gimmick of the account is I can’t use bursts (genuine question would Kirara’s C4 be cheating to activate? I think it might be…), I’m f2p, and the big one no level up books. I can ONLY level up by fighting monsters. Mainly activated shrooms to save time and sanity; I’ve hit 9999 of the green drop more than once and have had to combine them.
This “endgame” mode is so easy my main account did hard mode in like 7 minutes of actual combat. But I can’t even challenge this joke on a challenge account where it had the potential to be somewhat of a test because Hoyo decided to add a level cap and force full 4 party teams. Like bruh the teams can end up so random anyway you might only use 1/4 of the characters so it’s not gonna matter if the Amber you throw in just to fill out a slot is level 70 or level 2. It’s just completely arbitrary.
A character not being as leveled on any account doesn’t mean they won’t have access to a solid build of artifacts and weapons. My highest characters currently are only 2 at level 40 yet I have reached AR 58 and have farmed fairly decent artifacts. My level 33 Nahida has a top 1% build on Akasha. Hell my Diluc even has a better build here than my main at top 3% over top 4%. I haven’t even had to rely on a co-op friend to help me out in farming for quite some time. I’m totally fine doing events and getting a fair share of awards at my character levels. The only thing I’m normally gatekept by is only having 1 Sac Frag between Kokomi, Barbara, and Sucrose.
But now 4 years into the game Hoyo decided they didn’t want to make a new endgame mode, they wanted to make a new cash grab. Lock just enough new character dialogues and camera poses for the casuals, teapot mains, and lore enthusiasts who might ignore Abyss behind it and they’ll now want in. Players who need more characters to do this game mode get locked out and can’t get the primos from it. Aka go swipe. Players who have a decent amount of characters but need to level them all at once get spread thin. Aka go resin refresh with your primos to keep up aka go swipe. Players who have spent enough time and/or money to meet the check, go take a nap (if you aren’t in the like 30-50%+ that quit already), your monthly refreshing game mode’s done in under 10 minutes.
Hate to be that person but in comparison WuWa’s Depths of Illusive realm has built in incentive to do it more than once, let’s you exchange for more valuable rewards, will warn you if your character is under leveled but still let you in, and has solid enough builds on the trial ones if your own characters are too weak. It’s not a team check but I had a lot more fun going through the different stages for around 2 hours than the yawn of a 7 minutes I had on my Genshin main where the highlight was seeing what bratty line my Wanderer (who’s C4 & well built but I can’t share with anyone because he’s principal cast -_-“) would say between stages.
I threw out this analogy on another chat but it’s like if Hoyo suddenly decided that, “In order to access any of Natlan and future regions, you now can’t even step foot in til you have 100% exploration in all previous regions down to the last chest and side quest. Should’ve logged all your chests in the official interactive map we totally didn’t just steal the design of off the fan made one and now launched lil bro. That’s ok you can exchange genesis crystals to send your (select few RNG) characters (you may or may not have) out to hunt those missing chests. You get 1 single new dialogue when they come back at the end of week with a single common chest! If you’re extra special (get lucky with the .03% odds) your waifu might even give you an exclusive cute wink! No there’s no skip button in the stories still, enjoy left clicking yourself into early onset arthritis. Oh did we say no skip button, we meant for f2p. You can buy the monthly skip subscription for $20 a month, no we didn’t test it to see if it’s buggy or not.”
Not an entirely exact replica of Hoyo dialogue because I skipped the patronizing customer service emoticons but you get the idea. Really consider this. How much outrage or at least annoyance would something like this cause and why? Would it mainly be that it’s super restrictive to people who don’t have time or who’d rather dedicate themselves to different aspects of the game? Would it be because this is not AT ALL how exploration has worked for the earlier parts of the game and now they changed it to THAT? Would it be that it’s such a stupid reason to prevent you from progressing something you could otherwise do? Would it be those few elitists saying, “well you should have just been doing exploration all along, what’d you expect? It’s supposed to be the end regions, Hoyo’s totally in the right to make sure you’re fully caught up on all the lore from before.” or the other side of the coin I’ve seen before, “just top up.” or “just quit.”
Even on my normal account, that stage with the water elementals can f*** right off. So much annoying damage everywhere.
It’s a cool idea YK but the bad thing is that it’s more towards pay 2 win players since most people who are f2p probably don’t have all characters.
I am stuck on satge 3 act 3 i tried this for several tyms and still not promoting for stage 4😢😢
Seeing this after the 4.8 stream:
I feel bad for you cuz of Emilie being a 5* dendro polearm 💀
She's coming second half so Ive got plenty of time to prefarm
Seeing you not taking advantage of Cyno's burst properly made me cry.. you press his e when that symbol appears and it does so much more damage and AOE 😭
I know… Im used to using TF on him (you use more skills, not just when the eye appears), but was not triggering it with consistency. I shouldve just ignored it and played him boring style (when the eye pops up only vs using additional skills in between with TF). And I was hoping he would trigger TF decently enough in the situations I used him in, hence why I tried.
TLDR: No, you can’t beat it with polearms only
You don't need to lvl them up to 70. 60/60 is enough since the game let me use characters that are 60/60
Just double checked in game, it doesnt show my level 60 diluc/keqing as available to select on my main account. They are available on Normal/Easy (which says level 60 as a requirement), but with Hard they are not available because it requires level 70. Im guessing you were not playing the Hard difficulty with the full 8 acts. Even lowering the requirement from 70 to 60 would be a big help resource wise though
@@Solunerra oh, then I'm dumb because I lvl up 2 characters to 70 before stopping at 60 with the rest thinking it was at 70 in every difficulty.
Thanks for the answer, I will now proceed to cry because I'm not getting those resources back😔
25:32 Thats why I prefer Crimson Witch
Yeah normally her burst isnt as necessary on the account, but in the future I will tweak her build for Theater most likely (not to crimson thats a bad set for a non vaporize Tao build lol)
@@Solunerra Now that you say it, I realize that I dont know how a Mono Pyro Hu Tao build would look like. It would be a 4pc lavawalker or 2pcCrimson, right???
just call this series "Polearm Mains" or something similar instead of "... ONLY" that might give you less headaches for such occurences, they will happen again eventually
I wish genshin had the same team as hsr man- even ZZZ has a better endgame and its new rip. Had to delete it, zzz,wuwa and hsr are way more than enough for a student like me xD
I dunno if I could handle even 3 gachas as a student lol. 2 is near my limit as is
dps thoma my eyes😫😫😁😁
Your voice reminds me of technoblade.
I see this often enough that I am starting to think we are long lost twins!
This gamemodes like way too difficult for me
Honestly ur c6 Arlechino is too strong, even w lvl0 healing cap she's just shred everything within 10 sec like omg. To be kinda of a challenge u should try trial's Arlechino or ur own w 3* artifacts n 4* weapon
It was functionally a C3 Arlecchino, which is where most of her constellation value is. I also have *very* good artifacts on her now too lol. C2 made more of a difference than anything, but I dont think it wouldve been all that much harder without it. Maybe will try clearing with the trial arlecchino on stream sometime
Tbh I also don't think it would be hard but at least would not be so easy. I would definitely watch that
Are you gonna pull Emile ?
"Are you gonna pull a Polearm character on a Polearm acvount" oh I wonder what the answer is going to be.
I mean it's either he pulls emilie or wait 4months for the next new pole arm character lol
Yeah lol
@@Thomsn_Gazelle I said it mainly since he doesn’t have a lot of options for teams with her kit
@@LauraJinkins-pi8sv yeah, but why would he not pull her, even if she has a bad kit
me and the homies hate coeanid
If u don’t have bennet built up def should he’s RLLY GOOD
Polearms _only_ lol
Part of the fun IS Bennett not existing
Make Soluna Use Cyno on the Polearms Only Challenge
I will likely use him more with Emilies release :)
I feel this is a horrible thing to be forced into you to pass haha
Maybe allow you to use all characters BUT no polearms have everything lvl1?
should allow you to still use their elements and some other minor buffs
What was the point of pulling for C6 Arlecchino if you’re just going to keep nerfing her?
@@broccolithoughts To prove that a C3 Arlecchino is far more than enough still lol. I keep her fully powered for fun during livestreams usually if you want to see C6 more, but theres not that much thats interesting about it tbh. For Theater it literally makes 0 difference.
Early
Its way too ez
Hey can you rewiew my account i only have one good team and i dont know what to do pls help
This mode is more fun that abyss is kind sad that people heated because they only thinking about primos 😒
Primogems are nowhere near my primary issue with the gamemode, personally. Reward wise I think its a bit rough that they split it up for some players, that do not have many characters leveled because they hyperinvested in specific units. But its basically the same amount of primos as we got full clearing abyss before. But its easier in some ways and harder in others
Hoyo finally cancel weapon only accounts (lol)
>_
Ngl this seems rather annoying .... even more if you happen to not have certain meta (5*) characters built or at all
it kinda hurts how you play cyno... sorry....
Would you like to play 4pc TF Cyno when he is not getting skill cooldown procs and has no shielder?
Change name to polearm "mostly"
Genuinely who or even how was this mode approved. Its so bland and boring, it has terrible rewards, its way too easy while trying REALLY hard to restrict your options and they nerfed abyss rewards for it? Imagine if every time star rail added a new end game they removed rewards from previous ones
they buffed abyss rewards ???? by 200
How are the rewards terrible? Pretty standard amount you see for every hoyo endgame mode. Across abyss and this the total rewards shot up as well.
They are increasing rewards and adjusting the difficulty. If you don't like it, wait and see if they'll change it before yapping.
The rewards are fine tbf. This is coming from an avid genshin hater
Don't like the mode itself