She's so emotionally immature thinking life is a Disney movie. She isn't marriage material. She's a needy child who wanted a Big Wedding for the big show, the limelight and marriage status to show off to her friends. She was playing at life and ex boyfriend was a prop. Boyfriend dodged an exercet.
The fact that she was so nonchalant at getting on the dating app months before they broke up shows the natural conniving mentality of an even faithful woman even if her end goal is wanting to get married.
I never put out on the first date, but shaved for the first date and has a history of hook up buddies. Just admit you’re easy. Also, never get in a release with someone that has sex on the first date. Self discipline is essential for a strong relationship.
Every guy wants to hit it on the first date. But my thoughts are, if I can get it fairly easy, anybody can also. I'll take it but she is taken off the serious relationship list. We can continue to see each other but for me she is now a bed partner and that's all she'll ever be.
She said she didn’t sleep with those guys on the dating apps until after they broke up but still wants to call and get back with him. How is that supposed to help their or anyones situation it seems like it would only make worse. But what do I know I’m just thinking logically.
Try when she tells out of the blue she have cheated on everyone apart of you in a attempt to create trust and love again to get you back. also been promiscuous before that slips out little here and there after ending up as roommates with benefits that she wanted but you aren't interested to let her in you pants 99 times of 100, with a 3 years old child involved. she also offers one sided open relationship to have you. even tries to walk around naked to trigger you but you do the same and it backfires for her that you don't get turned on but she does and get sexually frustrated.
Neil is mature and wise beyond his years, ultimately dodging this firing squad disguised as a woman. In addition, he has the backbone to say and mean “ No “ .
Kevin Samuels said A MAN should know. Not that his WOMAN SHOULD TELL HIM WHEN. She tried to use the godfather to back up her foolishness. Thats what you get for trying to put a womanly spin on RP talking points.
Rather than waking him up to ask him to talk some more later, she banged around to wake him up so he could watch her leave. THAT is why she should NEVER get married. She lacks character.
A man should know if he wants to marry someone in six months. He should wait much more time to make sure she is right before he takes that risk. He was right to not want to marry her. Good on him for waiting.
Its not just waiting but testing to verify. Intentionally putting or going into scenario's that expose her. It does not take long to see if you are a match, meaning shared morals and goals. After that your testing to see if actions follow. Don't just casually wait around and expect time to do the work for you. That can work if your ok wasting your time if it doesn't work out
Not anymore. It used to be that way. Now all you may know is that you like who she is presenting as herself as. But it takes longer to reveal their true character. A background check, complete medical history, interviewing childhood friends, examining her parents for psych problems, scouring the internet, access to all social media, educational history (grades, sports). But even after all of that, it's still unwise to ever get married.
Her intentions are noble. After some of the toxic story’s I’ve read on here I’m not going to poo poo on this last for WANTING to get married and be a wife..but pressuring someone before they are ready is not the answer.
Yup unless she made a clause in the contract that she and AP will be punished to pay for all the divorce, no alimony or child support or uno reverse It for 5 years with 100K included for being a sl@t and cheating then maybe he'll sign up
This chick screwing up by making demands reminds me of the 80’s movie “Commando”: Kidnapper- “If you want your kid back you’re going to have to cooperate right?” John Matrix- “Wrong” 🔫💥
Neil clearly found out about the dating apps. Op says after 12 months you should know if I’m the right person to marry. Neil knew. Let us all learn from Neil gents……. Don’t stick it in crazy.
All these calculations and arbitrary expectations and not one thought on showing him why he would want him to marry her that quickly. Girl was simply looking for a wedding, not a marriage that lasts.
She pressured, snooped through his phone, ambushed him with her parents, gave ultimatums, then had emotional affairs on him with dating apps, all inside the first year! She wonders why he doesn't want marriage? She sounds exhausting and untrustworthy.
Whats the rush ? He prob has been burned once and now take it slow and easy You know he dont want to rush yet you pressure him ? You were scared he would leave you yet give him every reason to leave you ? Sound like self sabotage to me
I believe in lots of things Kevin Samuels said but that 6 months you should know if you want to marry someone is not one of them. I'm a take as much time as you need to fully vet this person you're starting a lifelong business partnership with
And the worst part of all of this in my opinion, he flat out was honest with her at the very beginning. He told her it was going to take 3 to 5 years for him to decide if he wanted to marry her or not this is a huge problem with modern women, they think they’re all and they think they can change what a man wants. You cannot ladies get that through your heads.
Opened her legs on the first date with a stranger, not marriage material thats for sure.Dating apps, tells you everything about her.She also approached him when he was with his buddies.She likes the male attention a lot.
If you pushed him to marry you and he reluctantly agreed, do you think that's a good foundation to start a marriage? NO. One year is not enough to really know someone, try at least 5 years. It should be feel natural to want to marry, not forced.
Op you are young, focus on yourself become a lawyer or a social, also stop pressuring any of your future bf to marry you, if the has option they would bail
Pay attention to the beginning of this gents she flat out admits, breaking all of her rules for him now I know tons of people have heard it if you listen to any channel like this channel, but they only have rules for men. They’re not interested in if they are interested in you, they will break every single one of them to try to be with you and she admits it in this video or in her story.
@ 9:12 no actually you did him a favor. Next to mentioning "financially" stable is the king's axe to your "good" woman self proclaimation and KS is shaking his head looking down from abive
Why would someone want to marry someone if the only reason they did is because you pressured them? Any self-respecting person would want someone who actually wants to marry them instead staying with someone for years who doesn't want that, but hope you can change their mind. This was likely a classic case of them not discussing their goals early in the relationship. So she hoped he'd start desiring marriage and he hoped she'd stop bringing it up. They both clearly didn't want the same things, but chose to stay together and waste time for some dumb reason.
3-5 years is reasonable as it gives time to see how each person lives, their habits, how they react to good and bad times, etc. I don't care what some relationship guru, pick up artist, life coach etc. says, but a year is not long enough to truly learn if you're ready to be in a relationship with someone. As much as OP made it sound like SHE got the better deal out of the break up, I think Neil dodged a bullet. OP is not mature enough to be in a marriage, much less a committed dating relationship, given her violation of boundaries, emotional cheating, and constant assumptions of wrongdoing on Neil's part.
And so another alpha widow is born. Neil was right to ditch her. She was pressuring him into marriage mere months into the relationship and while he was still very young
Perusing the dating apps while setting ultimatums wow. So what would she say if Neil were doing the same thing? Would she consider that cheating? We already know, ma'am forget about relationships you aren't cut out for them you are entitled, hypocritical and selfish. Neil will never come back
ohh so you decide to download a dating app just to keep other in line if he broke up with you but claim that you loved him and would have said yes immediately. and then when he broke up with you, you started sleeping with those guys you had in your back pocket. yeah. this chick wanted to be married, she didnt care to whom. ohh and im 100 percent sure he knew about the dating app.
OP: marriage in the west has no upside for the man. a wise man should spend years getting. to know the woman before he can even think of proposing. maybe he would have married you, maybe not, but you forcing the issue absolutely was a stake in the heart of the relationship. lastly; you were on a dating app? that absolutely says that you are not marriage material. if you cannot commit to one man, then no man can commit to you. good luck in the future, and i hope you learn from this
Sounds a lot my ex she is 29 and I was 27 (28 now) she truly wanted kids when we were together for like 6 months lol and whining and complaining about her biological clock it was one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever seen than cheats funny how she is the one who always thought I was cheating these women are truly out of control lol dodged a bullet though!
You don't need to be married to have a great fulfilling relationship for life ;) It's just a contract to the state trap security to not be left or if it goes to shit to get something out of it for one of them. it's just a huge unnecessarily mess if it doesn't really work for one of them. Just be careful with those that must get married. it are rarely about love for each other as a person. sad reality. barely any benefits either that are of any big value in society and the state.
Pay attention to the beginning of this gents she flat out admits, breaking all of her rules for him now I know tons of people have heard it if you listen to any channel like this channel, but they only have rules for men. They’re not interested in if they are interested in you, they will break every single one of them to try to be with you and she admits it in this video or in her story.
Yep he did the right thing, he knew she wasn't as good as she thinks
She's all over the place. Women like that, avoid them at all costs.
If a woman doesn't put out on the first date it means you aren't the guy she craves.
@@tripd4949 It's not even about sex, it's just her mind is all over the place and it's dangerous to get involved with someone like that.
Women sabotaging own relationships. Not surprised.
That have been pretty common for very long.
Great story true. Guy had the sense to walk away
She's so emotionally immature thinking life is a Disney movie. She isn't marriage material. She's a needy child who wanted a Big Wedding for the big show, the limelight and marriage status to show off to her friends. She was playing at life and ex boyfriend was a prop. Boyfriend dodged an exercet.
The fact that she was so nonchalant at getting on the dating app months before they broke up shows the natural conniving mentality of an even faithful woman even if her end goal is wanting to get married.
I never put out on the first date, but shaved for the first date and has a history of hook up buddies. Just admit you’re easy. Also, never get in a release with someone that has sex on the first date. Self discipline is essential for a strong relationship.
Every guy wants to hit it on the first date.
But my thoughts are, if I can get it fairly easy, anybody can also.
I'll take it but she is taken off the serious relationship list.
We can continue to see each other but for me she is now a bed partner and that's all she'll ever be.
Neil probably saw the signs of her getting distance when she started using those dating apps. He figured it out, and that's all he needed.
almost certainly true.
Exactly he got his answer
And she did him a favor
She said she didn’t sleep with those guys on the dating apps until after they broke up but still wants to call and get back with him. How is that supposed to help their or anyones situation it seems like it would only make worse. But what do I know I’m just thinking logically.
Try when she tells out of the blue she have cheated on everyone apart of you in a attempt to create trust and love again to get you back. also been promiscuous before that slips out little here and there after ending up as roommates with benefits that she wanted but you aren't interested to let her in you pants 99 times of 100, with a 3 years old child involved. she also offers one sided open relationship to have you. even tries to walk around naked to trigger you but you do the same and it backfires for her that you don't get turned on but she does and get sexually frustrated.
When women vote out the family courts and no fault divorce laws they voted in, then they can expect marriage.
Neil is mature and wise beyond his years, ultimately dodging this firing squad disguised as a woman. In addition, he has the backbone to say and mean “ No “ .
Kevin Samuels said A MAN should know. Not that his WOMAN SHOULD TELL HIM WHEN.
She tried to use the godfather to back up her foolishness. Thats what you get for trying to put a womanly spin on RP talking points.
This.
Doesn't mean the man has finished his vetting process. 3-5 years as Neil was saying is about right.
Damn, she was crazy as hell. She wanted a proposal after less than a year.
Rather than waking him up to ask him to talk some more later, she banged around to wake him up so he could watch her leave. THAT is why she should NEVER get married. She lacks character.
Shes incredibly immature
A man should know if he wants to marry someone in six months. He should wait much more time to make sure she is right before he takes that risk. He was right to not want to marry her. Good on him for waiting.
Its not just waiting but testing to verify. Intentionally putting or going into scenario's that expose her. It does not take long to see if you are a match, meaning shared morals and goals. After that your testing to see if actions follow. Don't just casually wait around and expect time to do the work for you. That can work if your ok wasting your time if it doesn't work out
Not anymore. It used to be that way. Now all you may know is that you like who she is presenting as herself as. But it takes longer to reveal their true character. A background check, complete medical history, interviewing childhood friends, examining her parents for psych problems, scouring the internet, access to all social media, educational history (grades, sports).
But even after all of that, it's still unwise to ever get married.
Notice they pick and choose what Kevin Samuel said to suit their needs.
The OP is crazy! Niel is a hero!
Yes, because a year is long enough to determine the next 50-60 years of life after a woman has suddenly thought she should be your manager.
So she is seeing others.. but that not cheating 🤣🤣🤣
She starts cheating on him with other guys, he finds out, and tells her she is not wife material.
Her intentions are noble. After some of the toxic story’s I’ve read on here I’m not going to poo poo on this last for WANTING to get married and be a wife..but pressuring someone before they are ready is not the answer.
Neil dodged a massive bullet
Yup unless she made a clause in the contract that she and AP will be punished to pay for all the divorce, no alimony or child support or uno reverse It for 5 years with 100K included for being a sl@t and cheating then maybe he'll sign up
This chick screwing up by making demands reminds me of the 80’s movie “Commando”:
Kidnapper- “If you want your kid back you’re going to have to cooperate right?”
John Matrix- “Wrong” 🔫💥
This story sounds like it was written by 16 year-old
Adult children these women are
Neil clearly found out about the dating apps. Op says after 12 months you should know if I’m the right person to marry. Neil knew. Let us all learn from Neil gents……. Don’t stick it in crazy.
God, you are exhausting. Niel dodged a bullet.
That's her fault for giving him a ultimatum and he chose the best and financial ✈️✈️✈️
All these calculations and arbitrary expectations and not one thought on showing him why he would want him to marry her that quickly. Girl was simply looking for a wedding, not a marriage that lasts.
Is she a good person when she says things like
Men can’t say no
She pressured, snooped through his phone, ambushed him with her parents, gave ultimatums, then had emotional affairs on him with dating apps, all inside the first year! She wonders why he doesn't want marriage? She sounds exhausting and untrustworthy.
Whats the rush ?
He prob has been burned once and now take it slow and easy
You know he dont want to rush yet you pressure him ?
You were scared he would leave you yet give him every reason to leave you ?
Sound like self sabotage to me
I believe in lots of things Kevin Samuels said but that 6 months you should know if you want to marry someone is not one of them. I'm a take as much time as you need to fully vet this person you're starting a lifelong business partnership with
And the worst part of all of this in my opinion, he flat out was honest with her at the very beginning. He told her it was going to take 3 to 5 years for him to decide if he wanted to marry her or not this is a huge problem with modern women, they think they’re all and they think they can change what a man wants. You cannot ladies get that through your heads.
Opened her legs on the first date with a stranger, not marriage material thats for sure.Dating apps, tells you everything about her.She also approached him when he was with his buddies.She likes the male attention a lot.
It takes a year to know if a person should be your partner it takes at least around five to know if they should be your permanent partner.
Notice how they only take what's convenient from everything that "The Godfather" KS said?
Neal..nah he's neo 😎
9:56 damn straight true, unless they pay you 300K+ a year to tolerate it LOL
If you pushed him to marry you and he reluctantly agreed, do you think that's a good foundation to start a marriage? NO. One year is not enough to really know someone, try at least 5 years. It should be feel natural to want to marry, not forced.
Are ww just gonna avoid the favt she wanted to kill them both in the car on the way home???!!! And take innocent people out with them!!!!!
Ultimatum's are a fools game
12 months lol wtf 😂
12 Months? Not even close these days you need serious time to find out who you're dealing with remember the movie "fatal attraction"😮🤔
10 years is more appropriate
by that point, she’s past her window for child bearing, so unless they start dating when she’s 15…
She showed why you don’t get engaged after a year. She was sweet until he didn’t do what she wanted, when she wanted. then showed her true self.. 😂
Op you are young, focus on yourself become a lawyer or a social, also stop pressuring any of your future bf to marry you, if the has option they would bail
Pay attention to the beginning of this gents she flat out admits, breaking all of her rules for him now I know tons of people have heard it if you listen to any channel like this channel, but they only have rules for men. They’re not interested in if they are interested in you, they will break every single one of them to try to be with you and she admits it in this video or in her story.
@ 9:12 no actually you did him a favor. Next to mentioning "financially" stable is the king's axe to your "good" woman self proclaimation and KS is shaking his head looking down from abive
skater boy took you to steak and shake! no wonder you wanted a keeper like that! bahahahahahahahaha
Think he knows u were on dating apps
6 months isn’t enough time. 😂
Why would someone want to marry someone if the only reason they did is because you pressured them? Any self-respecting person would want someone who actually wants to marry them instead staying with someone for years who doesn't want that, but hope you can change their mind.
This was likely a classic case of them not discussing their goals early in the relationship. So she hoped he'd start desiring marriage and he hoped she'd stop bringing it up. They both clearly didn't want the same things, but chose to stay together and waste time for some dumb reason.
3-5 years is reasonable as it gives time to see how each person lives, their habits, how they react to good and bad times, etc. I don't care what some relationship guru, pick up artist, life coach etc. says, but a year is not long enough to truly learn if you're ready to be in a relationship with someone. As much as OP made it sound like SHE got the better deal out of the break up, I think Neil dodged a bullet. OP is not mature enough to be in a marriage, much less a committed dating relationship, given her violation of boundaries, emotional cheating, and constant assumptions of wrongdoing on Neil's part.
And so another alpha widow is born. Neil was right to ditch her. She was pressuring him into marriage mere months into the relationship and while he was still very young
Sounds reasonable to me. A Woman shouldn't have to invest more than a year in her lifetime pension plan..
Perusing the dating apps while setting ultimatums wow. So what would she say if Neil were doing the same thing? Would she consider that cheating? We already know, ma'am forget about relationships you aren't cut out for them you are entitled, hypocritical and selfish. Neil will never come back
ohh so you decide to download a dating app just to keep other in line if he broke up with you but claim that you loved him and would have said yes immediately. and then when he broke up with you, you started sleeping with those guys you had in your back pocket.
yeah. this chick wanted to be married, she didnt care to whom.
ohh and im 100 percent sure he knew about the dating app.
OP: marriage in the west has no upside for the man.
a wise man should spend years getting. to know the woman before he can even think of proposing.
maybe he would have married you, maybe not, but you forcing the issue absolutely was a stake in the heart of the relationship.
lastly; you were on a dating app? that absolutely says that you are not marriage material. if you cannot commit to one man, then no man can commit to you.
good luck in the future, and i hope you learn from this
Chads don't marry.
Drama queen
OP thought her boyfriend was Soft. Well, like Homeboy said in Back To The Future III:
"You Thought Wrong, Dude." 💵💵
Sounds a lot my ex she is 29 and I was 27 (28 now) she truly wanted kids when we were together for like 6 months lol and whining and complaining about her biological clock it was one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever seen than cheats funny how she is the one who always thought I was cheating these women are truly out of control lol dodged a bullet though!
You don't need to be married to have a great fulfilling relationship for life ;)
It's just a contract to the state trap security to not be left or if it goes to shit to get something out of it for one of them. it's just a huge unnecessarily mess if it doesn't really work for one of them.
Just be careful with those that must get married. it are rarely about love for each other as a person. sad reality. barely any benefits either that are of any big value in society and the state.
Pay attention to the beginning of this gents she flat out admits, breaking all of her rules for him now I know tons of people have heard it if you listen to any channel like this channel, but they only have rules for men. They’re not interested in if they are interested in you, they will break every single one of them to try to be with you and she admits it in this video or in her story.