Set up looks good but you should check on the code for the gas line. It looks like galvanized pipe coming down the wall of the house feeding your generator. I believe you need to use black pipe and not galvanized.
I Just finished putting together my set up. I would like to thank you for your post and some great tips. Looking forward to ERCOT dropping the ball again this winter. 👍😜
Kevin, for people who want a generator shed on the cheap, a plastic garden shed is the way to go. It is so easy to blow out your budget on a project like this. Your install is neat and clean. Your video got hung up on sound treatment. If you are serious about sound control I would suggest that you install a sound barrier against the wall (MLV) and then on top of this re-install your sound absorbent material. Also consider a hood over the intake and exhaust also insulated to redirect the sound waves as they like to travel in straight lines and think about a muffler on the exhaust. You really need to think about inside compartment temperatures. Buy a wireless thermometer and check the operating temperatures inside. If, in warmer weather it goes above say 110F I would be concerned. It is hard to find info on max ambient temperatures for air cooled generators online, but the weak links are the cylinder head and windings on the alternator. I have just gone thro this on my install and temperatures inside got to 125F inside the compartment before stabilizing. I freaked out and am in the process of upgrading from a 14 to a 16 inch fan with 3,000 cfm (variable speed). These generators pump out a lot of heat and when I see people with a 10-12 inch fan putting out 300-500 cfm I shudder. I shutter because most don't think about operating temperatures inside the compartment because you rarely see it discussed on TH-cam. I just met a man who told me he used an 8 inch fan and ran it 6 hours without a problem. He just assumed it was okay and when I questioned him he responded that it it still works but for the question is for how long? In defense of what you have done, it is for emergency use only and who knows, it may never be used. However these machines are not cheap and are not easy to fix so it is better to be safe. I did not notice if you put a shutoff valve on your gas line close to the generator; if not consider it.
Thank you for all those tips! Its very helpful! I will probably change to a 14 fan. I also have a wireless thermostat in the shed now. I can see the temp in the shed in the summer months. As far is the sound, it actually doesn't sound that bad, i can barely hear in in the house. The intention is emergency use so even if we hear it, its ok too. Agian thank you for the feedback. Means a lot.
You sounds like you know how to make perfect shed for generator, can you make a Video? It would be really helpful when someone makes it without a single correction.
You can drop that sound more with some sound deading insulation for vehicles like trunks and floor boards inside vehicles. I highly recommend getting some of the peel and stick kind for your generator shed.
Kevin the plastic base that the gen is sitting on will allow for a lot of noise transfer. I found this out with a swimming pool pump the customer complained was too loud as it was right under her bedroom window. That base is probably the same type used for HVAC units? It might have some Styrofoam under it but it doesn't really seem to matter, they are still pretty noisy. A solid base of some sort on the ground will quiet it down a little more. Great job on the video!
Great job with the enclosure, may want to consider applying some sound deadening foam inside the box or bedding egg crate, that will cut the noise down bigtime.
What gauge of wire did you use from the transfer switch to the breaker? Did you install a 50 amp breaker at the panel? Is the Firman capable of running your central AC unit for your house (3 ton or 4 ton)? Thanks
Hi Kevin, what parts did you purchase to connect to the generator exhaust vent? You mentioned dryer vent but I noticed a black pipe. How did you connect it to the generator? Any links would be appreciated.
Your generator is only able to put out 22.9Amps @ 240v running NG. I believe that all connections to your house should be done for a 30A connexion. Do you plan on running gasoline?
Nice video. After starting are you sure you’re not supposed to move the chock over to run? It sounds to be running rough and not at 3600RPM/60Hz. That will probably make your noise levels better and let you run more of your houses electrical loads.
@@kevinh125 thanks. I’m between the Firman and Champion Tri Fuel and trying to decide. Any chance you can show it running and how it does with your window unit adds load to it on natural gas? Cool set up.
Probably needs a muffler and I don't think that U turned the chock to run position. My firman run on gas and propane, so I would need a pad for the propane tank. Where is the power hooked inside the panel? 50A might too much.
you need to remove the ground wire if it goes to your breaker box you can only have one ground wire. the breaker box is already grounded. adding another ground wire goes against code
Kevin, what is the ambient temperature in your shed with the generator running (on load)? Is there a safe temperature range that this generator needs to be in, to prevent premature failure? I have the same generator.
More time needed to be spent on how to hook it up instead of wasting time on how quite or loud it is. What size is the Firman? Is it 9500watt? The rest was fair..... but thanks for the info.
I was so excited as I was going to do the same thing with my Firman. Then I realized that whoever wired my main breaker panel in the 90s, did not really install a main breaker lol. They installed the 100A main breaker which controls the main breaker panel inside my garage, but that 100A main breaker does not control my HVAC breaker nor another breaker on the outside panel. So there is no "main" breaker that literally shut everything off to the house at once. So there is no way I can install an interlock.
Best site I've found: www.geninterlock.com/ They have manufacturer specific models and even pictures to be sure it will fit your panel. They do have an Amazon store as well.
@@kevinh125 i just bought one the other day. a black and grey one. i have to also look for a way to put some type of exhaust pipes that point up and away from the generator because i heard a lot of ppl are having problems with the co sensor turning off their generator because it is a sensitive sensor and it happens while having it outside.
@@raybees72 I'm talking about the generator output, it's a 50A plug on a 31A circuit. The generator can put out a maximum of 31A @ 240 on gasoline, he's running on NG which only provides a maximum of 5500w @240v which in turn is 22.9A. I didn't just become an electrician yesterday!
@@raybees72 Sorry to burst your bubble but there is no way anyone is getting more that 31A per leg out of the T07051 from either the L6-50R, the L14-30R or a combination of both receptacles, reason being is that the main circuit is protected by a 31A breaker.
Que legal gerador a gas , nós aqui no BRASIL não temos um gerador que funcione no gás que seja novo diretamente da fábrica. Nós aqui temos que adaptar um carburetor comprado no aliexpress. , não é da cultura do brasileiro se prevenir e se antecipar aos problemas e as faltas de energia. Eu gostaria de ter um gerador desse novo e moderno mas pra nós é caro pois nosso governo cobra impostos extraordinários em nossas importações. Devia ter um representante dessa marca aqui no nosso país
That’s not a transfer switch, that is an interlock setup. Buyer beware that some states, interlocks are illegal and require a real transfer switch not an interlock setup.
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Set up looks good but you should check on the code for the gas line. It looks like galvanized pipe coming down the wall of the house feeding your generator. I believe you need to use black pipe and not galvanized.
I Just finished putting together my set up. I would like to thank you
for your post and some great tips. Looking forward to ERCOT dropping
the ball again this winter. 👍😜
Glad it help!
Kevin, for people who want a generator shed on the cheap, a plastic garden shed is the way to go. It is so easy to blow out your budget on a project like this. Your install is neat and clean. Your video got hung up on sound treatment. If you are serious about sound control I would suggest that you install a sound barrier against the wall (MLV) and then on top of this re-install your sound absorbent material. Also consider a hood over the intake and exhaust also insulated to redirect the sound waves as they like to travel in straight lines and think about a muffler on the exhaust.
You really need to think about inside compartment temperatures. Buy a wireless thermometer and check the operating temperatures inside. If, in warmer weather it goes above say 110F I would be concerned. It is hard to find info on max ambient temperatures for air cooled generators online, but the weak links are the cylinder head and windings on the alternator. I have just gone thro this on my install and temperatures inside got to 125F inside the compartment before stabilizing. I freaked out and am in the process of upgrading from a 14 to a 16 inch fan with 3,000 cfm (variable speed). These generators pump out a lot of heat and when I see people with a 10-12 inch fan putting out 300-500 cfm I shudder. I shutter because most don't think about operating temperatures inside the compartment because you rarely see it discussed on TH-cam.
I just met a man who told me he used an 8 inch fan and ran it 6 hours without a problem. He just assumed it was okay and when I questioned him he responded that it it still works but for the question is for how long?
In defense of what you have done, it is for emergency use only and who knows, it may never be used. However these machines are not cheap and are not easy to fix so it is better to be safe.
I did not notice if you put a shutoff valve on your gas line close to the generator; if not consider it.
Thank you for all those tips! Its very helpful! I will probably change to a 14 fan. I also have a wireless thermostat in the shed now. I can see the temp in the shed in the summer months. As far is the sound, it actually doesn't sound that bad, i can barely hear in in the house. The intention is emergency use so even if we hear it, its ok too. Agian thank you for the feedback. Means a lot.
You sounds like you know how to make perfect shed for generator, can you make a Video? It would be really helpful when someone makes it without a single correction.
@@AJ-ds9xq if you like you can go to Eng-Tips and then check out "Generator temperature in an enclosed compartment". That might be of interest to you.
Dude stfu. Mr know it all is what you sound like
@@kevinh125 Well Done man and good setup 👍
Great job. Very impressive but shut off the choke after you start it and it will get alot more quiet and run smoothly.
Yes, I forgot to switch the choke. Got to excited on the video.
Auto shut off for choke, just by the way. 😊
You can drop that sound more with some sound deading insulation for vehicles like trunks and floor boards inside vehicles. I highly recommend getting some of the peel and stick kind for your generator shed.
Nice set up. Very detailed! (if you switch to gasoline be mindful of carbon monoxide vapors getting in windows & over hangs of your roof)
I bet the neighbors are going to love that
The neighbors will be without power, and asking him to plug in their extension cord, they won't care about the noise.
Good video. I have this exact model. Makes me want to run this same setup
Kevin the plastic base that the gen is sitting on will allow for a lot of noise transfer. I found this out with a swimming pool pump the customer complained was too loud as it was right under her bedroom window. That base is probably the same type used for HVAC units? It might have some Styrofoam under it but it doesn't really seem to matter, they are still pretty noisy. A solid base of some sort on the ground will quiet it down a little more. Great job on the video!
I use MDF wood as for my shed and painted black.
Great job with the enclosure, may want to consider applying some sound deadening foam inside the box or bedding egg crate, that will cut the noise down bigtime.
Thanks for the tips!
Great job Kevin !! I grounded mine too
Just make sure it’s up to code. Usually generator needs to be vetting feet away from your home.
Very helpful!
Thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!
This is a good set up boss
Great Job. Very nice setup
This is a great setup. Pls share links of the various parts you used. Thanks,
Will do soon
Very nice. That's an Interlock kit tho. Not a transfer switch.
Well done! Do you put a heater in the box in case you need to start the generator in the dead of winter?
It doesn't get that cold here
Great job Kevin!!
What gauge of wire did you use from the transfer switch to the breaker? Did you install a 50 amp breaker at the panel? Is the Firman capable of running your central AC unit for your house (3 ton or 4 ton)? Thanks
Hi, I'm not sure on the gauge. The breaker is a 125 amp got from HD. It does power up my 3.5 ton Goodman AC.
Good demo, TNX... on a constructive note; your 5 feet seems like a major miscalc??? Looks like about double +
Hi Kevin, what parts did you purchase to connect to the generator exhaust vent? You mentioned dryer vent but I noticed a black pipe. How did you connect it to the generator? Any links would be appreciated.
I spray paint it with high heat black
Your generator is only able to put out 22.9Amps @ 240v running NG. I believe that all connections to your house should be done for a 30A connexion. Do you plan on running gasoline?
No plan for running gasoline.
nice installation and video!
Thanks!
Thanks for the idea bro..
No problem 👍
Nice video. After starting are you sure you’re not supposed to move the chock over to run? It sounds to be running rough and not at 3600RPM/60Hz. That will probably make your noise levels better and let you run more of your houses electrical loads.
You are correct. I move it to Run but forgot to say it in the video.
@@kevinh125 thanks. I’m between the Firman and Champion Tri Fuel and trying to decide. Any chance you can show it running and how it does with your window unit adds load to it on natural gas? Cool set up.
@Shawn L yes, next time i start the generator, i will show you.
"A" for thought n design...
We done young man!
Thank you
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You might want to check the chattering shutters.They all add up.
Where did you get the shed from? Nice I may build one for my generator
I got it on Wayfair
So u dont have ATS? Can u show ur electrical wiring?
Why did not use a 50amp transfer switch since you have a 50amp plug in on your generator??
that is a 50amp transfer switch.
Probably needs a muffler and I don't think that U turned the chock to run position. My firman run on gas and propane, so I would need a pad for the propane tank. Where is the power hooked inside the panel? 50A might too much.
you need to remove the ground wire if it goes to your breaker box you can only have one ground wire. the breaker box is already grounded. adding another ground wire goes against code
Do you have information on the type shed you purchased? Great video
Keto Shed on Wayfair
Super job and how much did the shed cost
About 130 on wayfair
good instruction on operation of the generator. i have one
Kevin, what is the ambient temperature in your shed with the generator running (on load)? Is there a safe temperature range that this generator needs to be in, to prevent premature failure? I have the same generator.
More time needed to be spent on how to hook it up instead of wasting time on how quite or loud it is. What size is the Firman? Is it 9500watt? The rest was fair..... but thanks for the info.
I was so excited as I was going to do the same thing with my Firman. Then I realized that whoever wired my main breaker panel in the 90s, did not really install a main breaker lol. They installed the 100A main breaker which controls the main breaker panel inside my garage, but that 100A main breaker does not control my HVAC breaker nor another breaker on the outside panel. So there is no "main" breaker that literally shut everything off to the house at once. So there is no way I can install an interlock.
Would the 50 amp generlink solve that problem it transfers the power at your meter box
@@jeffroman2352 I would love to have one of those. But our electric company does not allow them.
Nicely done.. what was the approx cost for the shed ??
the shed i got on wayfair for $130
Building code Say at least 6 feet away from the Window and the House...😧😳
Kevin where did you find that specific interlock plate I need the same one?
I had a friend ordered it for me since we got the same thing. not sure where he got it.
@@kevinh125 ok cause my main disconnect is on the same on positive as yours and I bought one that didn’t work out.
Best site I've found: www.geninterlock.com/
They have manufacturer specific models and even pictures to be sure it will fit your panel. They do have an Amazon store as well.
@@jerbo74 thanks
Do you think this generator is better than the Predator 9000 watt from harbor freights?
It's good for my house. 1900Sq house.
@@kevinh125 i just bought one the other day. a black and grey one. i have to also look for a way to put some type of exhaust pipes that point up and away from the generator because i heard a lot of ppl are having problems with the co sensor turning off their generator because it is a sensitive sensor and it happens while having it outside.
Why didn't you use the 50amp plug?
I am using the 50amp. I have a 50amp extension core as well.
Why run a 50A when it can only put out 22.9A? Even on gasoline this thing can put out a maximum of 31.2A
@@jonsgarage3859Not sure what you're talking about but on a 50A at 80% load you can get 40 amps per leg, so really you can get 80A out of it.
@@raybees72 I'm talking about the generator output, it's a 50A plug on a 31A circuit. The generator can put out a maximum of 31A @ 240 on gasoline, he's running on NG which only provides a maximum of 5500w @240v which in turn is 22.9A. I didn't just become an electrician yesterday!
@@raybees72 Sorry to burst your bubble but there is no way anyone is getting more that 31A per leg out of the T07051 from either the L6-50R, the L14-30R or a combination of both receptacles, reason being is that the main circuit is protected by a 31A breaker.
Que legal gerador a gas , nós aqui no BRASIL não temos um gerador que funcione no gás que seja novo diretamente da fábrica. Nós aqui temos que adaptar um carburetor comprado no aliexpress. , não é da cultura do brasileiro se prevenir e se antecipar aos problemas e as faltas de energia. Eu gostaria de ter um gerador desse novo e moderno mas pra nós é caro pois nosso governo cobra impostos extraordinários em nossas importações. Devia ter um representante dessa marca aqui no nosso país
Nice
You don’t need to ground all that stuff dude
Yea I probably didn't have too but since the ground is close by, I might as well use it.
That’s not a transfer switch, that is an interlock setup. Buyer beware that some states, interlocks are illegal and require a real transfer switch not an interlock setup.
Still a little too noisy!!
Doesn’t sound right
Nice setup.... great job
Thanks!