As a father of 2 daughters, I repeatedly tell them. Nothing good happens outside your home after 10pm, especially 'when alone'. Of course, I admit, I'm "old school".
You may be old school, but you are also right! At 36, I'm often told that I am old school because of the way that I think and believe! Keep telling them! It may save their lives one day!
The brutal honest truth is it isn't safe for a young woman to go out at night. Most are never harmed but there's always that exception, even in small towns.
No. I don't find these stories calming or soothing at all. Definitely, not something I would choose to fall asleep to. I like to watch them. I don't want to fall asleep and miss half the show.
No way Denise is his only victim. Such a brazen crime to be his first, and to also have a dungeon. To keep the body in a freezer along with the clothes - it's a trophy. Could be a Gilgo Beach type of dude...
This is the most heartbreaking case I have ever watched on forensic files. The horror of what poor Denise went through before she was brutally murdered. What a psychopathic monster! This is the scariest type of killer: the mild-mannered, average looking, insidious killer. I don't believe either that Denise was his only victim. You don't keep that sort of sadistic, sick, disgusting tendencies bottled up for years and only kill once.
Exactly. Killers like that seldom stop at just one victim. And with all that desert out there (I'm originally from there) is lots of space to dispose of a body. Why no one noticed the rental truck there for so long, hmmm. That would be more than what meets the eye.
That's crazy that the only reason why this monster was under the radar was because his neighbor reported him for parking his truck and the freezer running all the time
This seems like a nice area but a few cases have happened here. Beautiful young woman and glad it was solved and neighbor just had that "something is not right here" and followed the instinct.
I lived in that area and know that freeway . So sad that the first boyfriend didn’t go with her that night; And that the perp just went by at that time. Evil is everywhere. Always pray and watch. No cell phones then. I’m sorry for her and her parents. RIP to that innocent victim. ✝️
The Hubers went through hell at the hands of John Famalaro. How sick to freeze Denise's body and keep it in a freezer for 3 years. Thank God for answers and justice for her parents.
It's unbelievable the killer would just hang on to Denise and all the evidence, and leave her in a stolen truck which could easily be spotted by the Rental company. Any normal person would wonder why a Rental truck is outside someone's residence for so long.
He kept her as a trophy and a reminder of the events. To go back to and relive that night. Killers especially with a sexual component will often keep such trophies from clothing, jewelry to even hair.
My heart goes out to her parents. How awful. The pain and heartache they must have felt knowing how her life came to an end. I was close to my parents and they loved me so much. I think this would have killed them.
I think the way she was wrapped up and THEN hit, so probably dying from suffocation or even just bound. Horrid for the plastic bag to go into the wounds in her skull. What a sick POS.
@@sunnydelight5255i am currently reading the book, there was an entire section about his family, and yes his mother is a psycho and tyrant who obsessively in control of their children's life and terrified them. Once, his mother stalk his brother's girlfriend into her hotel room, and tried to choke her.
I remember this one. Thank goodness for that ladies intuition regarding the Ryder truck. Kept her in that freezer as a trophy. Her dad was so heartbroken he had a hard time speaking about it here... Ladies you have to have some sort of protection on you at all times, something (Mace, knife, bat, etc) if you can't carry a firearm. The laws in CA are terrible in regards to firearms, I couldn't live there. Go to the range and get to practice. It's way too many deranged spirits running around so we have to be really safe and careful. RIP Denise.
Obviously he thought this would keep him from getting caught whereas of the body was buried somewhere he would have absolutely no control over who stumbled over it.
He kept her as a trophy and as a way to relive the the events. To get off on the memory. Why some killers keep articles of clothing, jewelry even hair.
I think it was a conscious decision to put the freezer with the body there for someone to find it cause he was feeling guilty of what he did to that innocent girl and wanted to be caught.
@@tokolloskosana3567no he wanted a trophy. A reminder of the act so to get off on. Killers with sexual deviance often keep trophies to relive the thrill.
The most recent article about John Famalaro that I could find was from the L.A. Times in 2016. He was in prison still on death row but California hasn’t executed any death row inmates since 2006. So he will likely die of old age in prison.
Ya never know when a slick defense attorney may find a hole for reasonable doubt even though here was basically impossible but better to nail the case down.
It's probably just her own mannerisms. She was obviously upset and wiped tears at one point and said she won't drive on the interstate because of this case. So no it's really not weird.
I wish Australia could illustrate it so well like forensic files so much better in many ways. Great content hence terrible crime but forensics handled it so well
Every serial killer is nice to people they don't attack.....Bundy ran for senate, went to law school and volunteered on the suicide hot line and was very well liked....
- It kind of seems that solving this case was beyond police's reach. - Only the phone call TO the police by the neighbour LONG time after the murder led to the solution. -
People who met him at a sales yard on a previous day arranged to meet him at the home to buy some paint from him. When they got on the property is when the Ryder truck situation became apparent. They were able to see things up close. Because this was a hoarder property, not many people came onto it like the paint buyers had. They were immediately suspicious of the truck and wrote down the license plate and reported it. The truck was hidden by their property fence and the Famalaros were hostile, so the paint buyers were likely the first people to see the truck situation well enough to become suspicious. This episode kind of glosses over all of that but other documentaries on this case go into better description on the whole situation.
I haven't been watching Forensic Files for some time and this evening is the first time I have. I cried like others in the FF vid. Like the PhD person that was working on Denniss's scull forensic lady as she said go home shower and cry in the shower. I'm so glad that this monster John Famolaro sentence to death. What right did he had to harm another person people like that really makes me angry...
As a trophy and reminder of the act. Remember he had sexual deviance tendencies. Killer with such tendencies will often keep trophies so to relive the events over and over again. So she was his trophy his memory.
14:27: The discovery of Denise's blood on Famalaro's clothing and the freezer is chilling. But here's my question: What kind of mindset leads someone to keep a freezer with a victim's body in their driveway for years? Do you think it’s arrogance, or something even darker?
Sure you could classify it as arrogance, but more than that , He’s proud ..She is his tropy, his souvenir. He’s basically in love with it which is why he preserved it. Like a beautifully restored muscle car, it stays in an environment to preserve its beauty . He wasn’t Even worried about getting caught… he barely hid his tracks… he was ready to be publicly proud … he probably made friends with the cops even… imagine it’s not a dead body, but your great accomplishment… yeah that’s the darker stuff🎯
He was a hoarder. Couldn’t throw away anything or clean. When detectives were executing the search warrant, they found years-old newspapers piled up in the living room and boxes and boxes of junk, never unpacked from his move.
It is better for women to keep driving on a flat tire, even if it will ruin the rim, then to risk getting out of the car and walking, or taking a strangers offer to help. In this situation, i drove slowlly home destroying my rim but i made it home. Yes it cost me alot of money, but i didnt care. I remember Denise's horror story , ill never forget her. I learned the lesson to drive on a flat from her story. Rest in God's hands dear girl.
poor Denise she didn’t deserve that to be kidnapped and killed and put in a freezer for 3 years that man is a sycophant and least now her family knows what happened and can get justice for their daughter and her parents and family can have a funeral for her and justice for any other victims and their families my condolences to Denise family 🌸💐🌹🌺🌷🕊️😕😥
Because her whole body was a trophy for him. He craved power and control over his victim and by keeping her frozen, he gained ultimate power over her. He would've kept her forever if he could.
@@BinArelcortexactly. He was a cold blooded killer with sexual deviance tendencies and when the fantasies no longer were sufficient he took the next step.
"Pray for Denise" to the god that created her killer (who know who he was before he made him), Had this all in his divine plan and did NOTHING to stop it. IT WAS HIS PLAN!! BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF!!
John 3:16 Context 13And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Thanks to an insightful neighbor she was found finally. RIP Denise and peace to her parentes.
Not a neighbor, a buyer that met him at a sales yard.
They said neighbor...?@@rockstarofredondo
She was 23 and still kinda had a curfew. I love it! Her parents seem very loving . So very sad. May she RIP 🙏🏻
As a father of 2 daughters, I repeatedly tell them. Nothing good happens outside your home after 10pm, especially 'when alone'. Of course, I admit, I'm "old school".
Old School is never a bad quality.
Mom always told me the same thing! Never a bad piece of advice
After 10pm or after 2 beers.
You may be old school, but you are also right! At 36, I'm often told that I am old school because of the way that I think and believe! Keep telling them! It may save their lives one day!
That’s good advice for highschoolers. My mom told me that as well.
She suffered every woman's worst nightmare. Poor sweetheart. Bundy monster.
The brutal honest truth is it isn't safe for a young woman to go out at night. Most are never harmed but there's always that exception, even in small towns.
Women shouldn't go through any horror!!!
Who else falls asleep to this
No. I don't find these stories calming or soothing at all. Definitely, not something I would choose to fall asleep to. I like to watch them. I don't want to fall asleep and miss half the show.
Me
Me lol
I'm completely interested in these stories, it has to be the tone of his voice and those little background bells that put me to sleep. Dang him!!😂😂
I also fall asleep to this.
No way Denise is his only victim. Such a brazen crime to be his first, and to also have a dungeon. To keep the body in a freezer along with the clothes - it's a trophy. Could be a Gilgo Beach type of dude...
Agreed
This is the most heartbreaking case I have ever watched on forensic files. The horror of what poor Denise went through before she was brutally murdered. What a psychopathic monster! This is the scariest type of killer: the mild-mannered, average looking, insidious killer. I don't believe either that Denise was his only victim. You don't keep that sort of sadistic, sick, disgusting tendencies bottled up for years and only kill once.
I’m 😮yy
You are right. This case is the worst. Kept the body after 3 yrs..😢
Exactly. Killers like that seldom stop at just one victim. And with all that desert out there (I'm originally from there) is lots of space to dispose of a body. Why no one noticed the rental truck there for so long, hmmm. That would be more than what meets the eye.
I do agree watching from Houston 6:54am
I love forensic files
We all do ❤
@@thomasshannon2741my father and I used to binge watch this tv show
me too
That's crazy that the only reason why this monster was under the radar was because his neighbor reported him for parking his truck and the freezer running all the time
My thoughts too
Exactly lucky
“Under the radar” MEANS….REMAINING UN-DETECTED….DUMBBELL!!!
@@Tryp-j9d Touch grass, jerkwad. I said, "WAS UNDER THE RADAR". Have a reading comprehension.
@@Tryp-j9d WOW.....We BOW to you GENIUS!!! Another EINSTEIN folks!
There's something super satisfying about how the narrator flatly states "he was sentenced to death" 👍🎉
Too bad he was convicted in California. They've pretty much banned capital punishment
If only he was convicted in a RED state. He will never get put down in CA
In loving memory of,
Peter Thomas
God bless
Thank you 💕...
This seems like a nice area but a few cases have happened here. Beautiful young woman and glad it was solved and neighbor just had that "something is not right here" and followed the instinct.
A monster. So sad. Poor Denise, poor parents.
This man looks like a college professor. Wouldnt ever imagine he could do this. But goes to show evil has no specific appearance.
I lived in that area and know that freeway . So sad that the first boyfriend didn’t go with her that night; And that the perp just went by at that time. Evil is everywhere. Always pray and watch. No cell phones then.
I’m sorry for her and her parents. RIP to that innocent victim. ✝️
My fathers favorite tv show😍
The Hubers went through hell at the hands of John Famalaro. How sick to freeze Denise's body and keep it in a freezer for 3 years. Thank God for answers and justice for her parents.
Thank SCIENCE for the answers!
@@justincredible.Thank the neighbor , police, forensics etc
It's unbelievable the killer would just hang on to Denise and all the evidence, and leave her in a stolen truck which could easily be spotted by the Rental company. Any normal person would wonder why a Rental truck is outside someone's residence for so long.
God only knows what he did to her dead body......absolutely disgusting
There are people who buy them and make RVs or storage units out of them....they don't normally keep deceased people in them
He kept her as a trophy and a reminder of the events. To go back to and relive that night. Killers especially with a sexual component will often keep such trophies from clothing, jewelry to even hair.
Absolutely dark and terrifying case. Agree with the medical examiner. I knew that would be his outcome.
My heart goes out to her parents. How awful. The pain and heartache they must have felt knowing how her life came to an end. I was close to my parents and they loved me so much. I think this would have killed them.
This was most disturbing case I ever watched. She didn’t deserve to die like that
You must not have seen many of these then
@@baravas666true but this hit different for me also and not sure why.
I think the way she was wrapped up and THEN hit, so probably dying from suffocation or even just bound. Horrid for the plastic bag to go into the wounds in her skull. What a sick POS.
@@baravas666I agree, this case is the worst..The fact of preserving the body for 3 yrs.. 😢
@@marcosperez2145 That's true. The preservation part was different than the other cases. Good point.
Interesting but very painful and frightening. Serves as a good cautionary tale for women. Thank you.
I think Forensic Files is great.
People kept to their own back in the day, especially in Arizona. Poor lady may she rest in peace ♥️
Ladies if you car brake down at night lock yourselves in the car and call for help.
There were no cel phones back then and she had no choice......
@@mightymouse1005 Yes, there were. Since 1980. Car phoes since 50s. You just had to pay for airtime and it wasn't cheap.
I don't know, but it seems a bit creepy for that mother to sit in her chair and watch the police investigate her son for murder.
Her son wasnt murdered he is the murderer
@@jennifermaddy2442 Oops! Good catch.Thank you. I meant the investigation into the murder perpetrated by her son. I'll edit my comment.
@@jennifermaddy2442The comment says investigate her son for murder not that he was murdered
I thought that too. Like mother like son. You can tell where he gets his creepy darkness from.
@@sunnydelight5255i am currently reading the book, there was an entire section about his family, and yes his mother is a psycho and tyrant who obsessively in control of their children's life and terrified them. Once, his mother stalk his brother's girlfriend into her hotel room, and tried to choke her.
I remember this one. Thank goodness for that ladies intuition regarding the Ryder truck. Kept her in that freezer as a trophy. Her dad was so heartbroken he had a hard time speaking about it here... Ladies you have to have some sort of protection on you at all times, something (Mace, knife, bat, etc) if you can't carry a firearm. The laws in CA are terrible in regards to firearms, I couldn't live there. Go to the range and get to practice. It's way too many deranged spirits running around so we have to be really safe and careful. RIP Denise.
18:09 this made me so sad to hear 🥺
I just don’t understand what was the point of him keeping her body; and then stealing a truck to keep her in a freezer. Smh
An unhealthy brain that doesn’t function properly.
Apparently, he was a hoarder...he wouldn't throw anything away. Really.
I know that's just weird keeping the body. Why?!
Obviously he thought this would keep him from getting caught whereas of the body was buried somewhere he would have absolutely no control over who stumbled over it.
He kept her as a trophy and as a way to relive the the events. To get off on the memory. Why some killers keep articles of clothing, jewelry even hair.
Thank you 😊 Cape Town, South Africa ..
Excellent forensics
Poor girl.. but also I had no idea bout 'call boxes' .. thats amazing even now in areas with little cell service .
It's scary how he could have easily gotten away with it if he hadn't kept her body and just buried her somewhere. She would have never been found 💔
I think it was a conscious decision to put the freezer with the body there for someone to find it cause he was feeling guilty of what he did to that innocent girl and wanted to be caught.
I think that he felt that he could Keep Control of the Crime if it stays with him frozen. 😳
@@tokolloskosana3567nah, he was just a mentally unwell hoarder that couldn’t get rid of the freezer. His entire fam is “off” like that.
@rockstarofredondo do you personally know them?
@@tokolloskosana3567no he wanted a trophy. A reminder of the act so to get off on. Killers with sexual deviance often keep trophies to relive the thrill.
Thank God, for the promise of the resurrection, and Judgment Day!
The most recent article about John Famalaro that I could find was from the L.A. Times in 2016. He was in prison still on death row but California hasn’t executed any death row inmates since 2006. So he will likely die of old age in prison.
Hope they speed that up
Son of the Devil.
Love that music playing in the background when they start showing her pictures
What a sick individual
RIP Peter Thomas!
Why do you need more evidence except to identify the victim - he’s got the stolen truck, freezer with a dead body, plugged in and running.
Arizona is a leftie state. They always favor the criminals.
Ya never know when a slick defense attorney may find a hole for reasonable doubt even though here was basically impossible but better to nail the case down.
I remember seeing a crime show about this case as a kid in the 90s, and it traumatized me. I just noticed that Denise and I share the same birthday.
In memory of,
Peter Thomas 😢
God bless
Thank you 💕...
Heartbreaking💔
The smirk and laughs of Ann Bucholtz, the forensic pathologist is weird and so disturbing.
Oh yes it's really weird
It's just her nervous manner, I think. She wipes tears at one point when she says she won't even travel on the interstate bc of this case.
Almost as weird as focusing on that of all things, especially in this episode.
Probably just how she deals . But I see what u r saying.
It's probably just her own mannerisms. She was obviously upset and wiped tears at one point and said she won't drive on the interstate because of this case. So no it's really not weird.
14:32 that bloody “Wobegon” shirt is iconic as hell
As usual, it’s a handyman 😖
Well, yeah, he's got tools.
I wish Australia could illustrate it so well like forensic files so much better in many ways. Great content hence terrible crime but forensics handled it so well
They described the demon monster as a very polite...I can't believe it.
Disgusting creature.
Many Serial killers have been described as polite. We never truly know those we meet or what they are capable of.
Pretending to be polite, decent people is how these kinds of criminals remain under the radar. They are acting.
Every serial killer is nice to people they don't attack.....Bundy ran for senate, went to law school and volunteered on the suicide hot line and was very well liked....
Many of them are polite, you don’t suspect them.
@@marys4565Politeness is a huge red flag when meeting a stranger. The world is a scary place.
- It kind of seems that solving this case was beyond police's reach. - Only the phone call TO the police by the neighbour LONG time after the murder led to the solution. -
Amo profundamente forensic files
this monster deserves the death penalty.
My dad taught me how to shoot and ive been armed my entire adult life...
Why nobody reported it before 3 years
i know
People who met him at a sales yard on a previous day arranged to meet him at the home to buy some paint from him. When they got on the property is when the Ryder truck situation became apparent. They were able to see things up close. Because this was a hoarder property, not many people came onto it like the paint buyers had. They were immediately suspicious of the truck and wrote down the license plate and reported it. The truck was hidden by their property fence and the Famalaros were hostile, so the paint buyers were likely the first people to see the truck situation well enough to become suspicious. This episode kind of glosses over all of that but other documentaries on this case go into better description on the whole situation.
A monster he is!
His electric bill had to be stupid!
Why would it? We have a freezer on 24/7, and it doesn't take much electricity
@ turn that freezer off for a month, then look at your usage charge.
This case is unforgettable man . What a beautiful girl , what a way to go
Imagine ppl calli g u a nosey karen neighbor, but then this happens. So glad for that neigh or being nosey
I find it too hard to watch
This is worse than a horror movie.
I haven't been watching Forensic Files for some time and this evening is the first time I have. I cried like others in the FF vid. Like the PhD person that was working on Denniss's scull forensic lady as she said go home shower and cry in the shower. I'm so glad that this monster John Famolaro sentence to death. What right did he had to harm another person people like that really makes me angry...
Rip denice 😢
Evil evil person
It doesn't make sense why he kept the body and all those bloody clothes.
It made sense to him......thats what matters because nothing people like this do makes sense to normal people
As a trophy and reminder of the act. Remember he had sexual deviance tendencies. Killer with such tendencies will often keep trophies so to relive the events over and over again. So she was his trophy his memory.
@@williamsweeney3215 Yeah. I guess.
Credit goes to the person who notified police about the strange truck situation.
"The Morrissey rock band"😂. You mean "Morrissey" an individual singer that in no way is a rock singer.
There are no news reports on John Famalaro...
He is waiting for his execution, this is what I read on Google
I love The Morrissey Rock Band.
The Morrissey rock band is my favorite! I especially love their lead singer, Dee Smiths.
Funny when he said 'the band'
I remember that concert in 91' I had a ticket but was grounded and didn't go. ....I was 15.
Morressey is a musician/singer, not really a band.
Literally how I fall asleep 😂
She had good taste in music. Morrissey's great. RIP Denise 💔💛🤍
It's an old one
Yep, saw this years ago. Also saw another or two more versions of it. Horrific.
John thought he was so smart yet he set himself up. Like he murdered her yesterday.😂
"Sorry honey, can't get off from work". I gotta try that next time the lady wants me to take her to see Morrissey. Eeps.
Oh, this poor woman; may she RIP
I fall asleep withis every night
So sad stories!!!!!!!!!!!!
Inglewood always up to no good :(
That freezer looks so gross
14:27: The discovery of Denise's blood on Famalaro's clothing and the freezer is chilling. But here's my question: What kind of mindset leads someone to keep a freezer with a victim's body in their driveway for years? Do you think it’s arrogance, or something even darker?
Sure you could classify it as arrogance, but more than that , He’s proud ..She is his tropy, his souvenir. He’s basically in love with it which is why he preserved it. Like a beautifully restored muscle car, it stays in an environment to preserve its beauty .
He wasn’t Even worried about getting caught… he barely hid his tracks… he was ready to be publicly proud … he probably made friends with the cops even… imagine it’s not a dead body, but your great accomplishment… yeah that’s the darker stuff🎯
How funny we didn't have a blood sample...
How did the police already have Hubers finger prints?
Why in the hell did he keep the body so long Somebody explained that to me. What a trophy so we can see what he did every day
He was a hoarder. Couldn’t throw away anything or clean. When detectives were executing the search warrant, they found years-old newspapers piled up in the living room and boxes and boxes of junk, never unpacked from his move.
Exactly. To get off on the memory of the act.
To have control! A control freak‼️
It is better for women to keep driving on a flat tire, even if it will ruin the rim, then to risk getting out of the car and walking, or taking a strangers offer to help. In this situation, i drove slowlly home destroying my rim but i made it home. Yes it cost me alot of money, but i didnt care. I remember Denise's horror story , ill never forget her. I learned the lesson to drive on a flat from her story. Rest in God's hands dear girl.
People be safe in the night 😭
Why he kept the body in the freezer for so long?
His mother knew.
poor Denise she didn’t deserve that to be kidnapped and killed and put in a freezer for 3 years that man is a sycophant and least now her family knows what happened and can get justice for their daughter and her parents and family can have a funeral for her and justice for any other victims and their families my condolences to Denise family 🌸💐🌹🌺🌷🕊️😕😥
A sycophant 😂
i would not relie on the fbi, thet are a joke😂
Wasn't her body found in the rental van
He was given the death sentence, guess what ? people hes still alive ; the death sentence was just a joke.
14:50 glued😢
Wy would he keep the body by the freezer all those years
Weird though
I wonder how naive could be girls so easy going to make fun with this or that man, as if the world is like paradise
Sad
Why did he keep her for so long
Cuz he's a sicko
Because her whole body was a trophy for him. He craved power and control over his victim and by keeping her frozen, he gained ultimate power over her. He would've kept her forever if he could.
@@BinArelcortexactly. He was a cold blooded killer with sexual deviance tendencies and when the fantasies no longer were sufficient he took the next step.
21:48 so true what mamá said
"Pray for Denise" to the god that created her killer (who know who he was before he made him), Had this all in his divine plan and did NOTHING to stop it. IT WAS HIS PLAN!! BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF!!
He didn't create a killer. This man was just born and God didn't intervene as he doesn't in other disasters and crimes.
Listen to yourself... If He didn't create the killer, then He's not the omnipotent God He should be. @@marion5198
I just keep thinking of Norm Macdonalds bit about Denise. Not very appropriate.
Darn that pesky 8th amendment
Forensics'⭐instigative docs.tough task,.how to solve heinous,murder,crimes even if it's cold,frozen cases in yrs.
John 3:16 Context
13And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Bible thumper
Indoctrination ⚠️ alert....
i knew her,she was a cool lady.
May want to rephrase that
@@williamsweeney3215 her boyfriend said she could be as cold as ice.