How to Plan for a Greenhouse
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- A garden greenhouse is a dream for most gardeners. Proper planning can keep it from becoming a garden nightmare. Gardener Scott discusses some of the many factors that should be considered when deciding about adding a greenhouse in your garden. (Video #287)
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If you think it, Gardener Scott will make a video on it!
The very best channel. We have a great garden the first year, thanks to his videos. Distilled wisdom, practical knowledge, just the right amount of detail!
His voice is so relaxing!!!! And I’m learning :)
Being a zone 3 gardener in Saskatchewan Canada - getting a greenhouse makes sense! Thanks Scott for always producing an informative video!
This year has been quite a challenge. As you mentioned the weather set many of us back 2 to 4 weeks behind in the planting , the rains we had here flooded a lot of our yard and gardens, cicadas are everywhere, the bugs seem to be worse here than most years . I want a green house but I am going to try to build my own using recycled materials.
My son built a green house from pallet wood and polycarbonate sheets, it took a little longer than would have been if the polycarbonate supplier had been able to supply better, but also my husband who was in a hospital ward for 11 days then contracted COV- 19 whilst there and was fighting for his life, so the build was put to one side somewhat.
So to all out there that just keep thinking about it, go and get on with it and enjoy life and get something more for your selves whilst you can, as for my husband he is
sadly not with us any longer and we are finding it very hard trying to adjust to another way of life without him and having the greenhouse has helped a little.
Just get life and enjoy what you can, when you can, keep safe and be on your guard but also be nicer to each other as there really is too much hate around and
most people into growing are usually much more caring individuals, like Gardener Scott, who we appreciate sharing his time by making his videos available to us
thanking you Scott -keep safe.
So sorry to hear about your loss. I hope the greenhouse and garden eases your sorrow.
For windy areas, those little metal building companies will usually work with you on a frame from them with greenhouse sheets from someone else. The steel tube frame from like an rv shed. I also have a buddy that bought the little 2 car carport steel building, but he put screen door each end and screened everything in, the roof was silver steel. He put his smokers and grills and stuff, picnic table and ceiling fans. It's a pretty cool hang out
I completely agree with you. I think too many people just want a greenhouse and get one that looks good without thinking all the items you mentioned through. I built mine last year and have enjoyed it immensely but there’s a few things I wish I would have considered first. The heat inside in summer needs to be addressed as well as water and electricity. Great videos
Hi Gardener Scott… Winnemucca Nevada here✋
Great info on getting a GH! We have similar climate conditions & zoning.. you get snow, we get ice & icy roads lol.
My son built mine several yrs ago.. wood, glass, corrugated roof with entrance to my garden. He’s plumbed it & has electricity for me. Our temps have been as high as 118🔥🥵
& it was a struggle with a swamp cooler & 3fans😵💫😵💫 but got my seeds going , garden in & just working with the challenge here😉
Hope your area is safe from the fires. Nevada is literally surrounded by them😩. Smoke so bad couldn’t see neighbors house 1 acres away😳
Stay safe & always great info
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I really enjoy your videos, from a perspective of someone who is managing their first garden ever, but plans to learn and expand, with a dream of gardening for the rest of their life. This one especially helps us (mostly me 👩🏼🌾) because we’re slowly in the process of building our forever home! A greenhouse was a part of my husband’s dream, but thanks to your video, I can certainly agree that I’d give one a try that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. Who knows, maybe I can always have back-up tomatoes that aren’t suffering from the diseases that my tomatoes have now. (I also spaced the ones I have very incorrectly and haven’t been able to dedicate the time I should because I have a toddler, a long haul truck driver husband, two dogs, 7 puppies for now….and an entire house to clean. Haha!)
I would recommend a cold frame. Smaller, cheaper and give you some experience with extended season gardening before investing in a green house. My 4x8 ft cold frame gives me options for early seed starting and cool weather crops.
I would like to get a small one for starting seeds. Maybe keep some plants alive during winter
You miss the joy of sitting in a greenhouse when it is snowing. Either with a hot beverage or an adult beverage. 😋😊
I'm in suburban yard and could enjoy a green house, but I already have a Sunroom and it get morning and afternoon sun as I am located with my back of the house is where my sunroom is and it facing the south-east as being in a court and lucky with the location .
Sunroom isn't a green house but it's sunny and full of sun and although not heated in zone 6 Columbus Ohio I've never seen temperature below the fourths and going to try to keep Peppers in this winter,I believe it going to be okay.
Lots of good advice and information on your video once again.
Seeing your greenhouse series will be interesting. And seeing it action as well.
Thank you Gardner Scott!
I'm excited to see this happen! I'm making plans on converting an old shed into a greenhouse and have wondered about things to consider. This is going to be great!
Me too 😊... Good luck and God Bless you and your family from middle GA 🙏 Kendra
Excellent summation. Thanks.
I had a wood structured greenhouse covered with 6 mil greenhouse poly. The poly lasted 8 years. The only drawbacks I had was heat build up even though I had three windows and a screened door. Temperatures got very hot during the summer! Also the other drawback was the sun deteriorated certain plastics I had in the greenhouse. The UV rays were very strong and broke down the plastics. My next greenhouse will have circulation fans and roof vents too. We moved thus I have to buy a new greenhouse.
Hey I did a small green house in ontario in a heavy tree area....the green house helped but I took most of my bottom coverings off and worked amazing
Very nice discussion. I keep thinking I want a greenhouse, but every time I do pro and con evaluations, I would have to give up spring - summer & / or fall growing beds. My active beds win out.
Good luck with your greenhouse! Definitely don't forget about heating and cooling your greenhouse. I thought I could put off those decisions until after my Harbor Freight 6x8 greenhouse was built but it would have been better to have planned ahead. I wanted to save on electricity so I opted for a geothermal solution. It would have been so much easier to dig the hole for the air pipes before it was built.
We built a cattle panel greenhouse and I love it.
I saw a vid on how someone built those. It was awesome actually. I had a greenhouse in Mich. I sure don’t need one here in FL with the heat. But I have used cattle panel on my raised beds here & made the “Gardner Scott” hoops out of it! And it’s awesome. My shade cloth or whatever I want or need to drape them with. Is very sturdy. I bet your cattle panel greenhouse is awesome. How big is it? I think for the $$$ in comparison to how much its used. Is really a brilliant idea. I was impressed with the video I saw making one.
@@FloridaGirl- we used supplies we had from our farm so cost was minimal. I just wish it would be bigger now.
@@FloridaGirl- we had severe storms and straight line winds recently and it held up fine.
@@kristinel6352 yes those panels are great. We had hard DOWNPOURS and wind gusts for 1.5 days when Elsa went by. We got some side gusts. Not one plant of mine was effected being in those hoops. 🤣 Yah we always want a bigger one! You can eventually extend it maybe. Cool! Happy gardening ! Too bad you can’t post pics. 👍
Great video for those considering a greenhouse! We built one last year from cattle panels and plastic. It has lower walls of wood and galvanized metal panels. Has a door in front and windows in back. Door and windows were repurposed. Shelving inside is repurposed closet shelving. The purpose behind ours was to expand our growing season. Love our greenhouse! I have no doubt you will lobe yours too. Looking forward to following how yours does. We may just want to add a second one here on our mountaintop in SE Tennessee.
Zuke not Luke. And I am ready to start broccoli from seed for the fall. and more radish. Some of these veggies hate the hot season so I have to learn when to grow and when not to grow. eg I sowed a cucumber seed in April by mistake, it grew and I picked one large cuke today, but that may be all from that plant. They grow better if sown in August, which I have done with 4 seeds.
I live in CT with nor’easter snow and wind storms, this was very helpful
Great advice. Can't wait to see what you have come up with.
I have a row of catlepanel arbor trellises that I put plastic on in the spring I use it as a nursery and if it gets cold at night I can use a space heater overnight.
No need for permits and it's super easy to put up and take down.
Congratulations on getting your new greenhouse!
Good! I can’t wait to see your kit built! For your area with the wind. I would say polycarb was a great choice.! You have good advise, AS ALWAYS! I had an 8 x 15 ghouse in Mich . Kinda Gothic shape and it had automatic heat vents in roof. I loved it. A great “learning” curve too. I loved that I was ITCHING to get outside way before I could actually plant outside. Start playing in dirt and start seedlings. And it was a GREAT place to use the containers for dirt I had. Then emptied, to dry out my catnip and things in later. i always grew dipper gourds, would harvest them. Drill some holes in certain spots. Set them on racks. And let them dry in the ghouse all winter. Then in Feb. I’d go retrieve them. Clean them up. Do woodburning on them or make birdhouses. Personally, I loved having one. Here in FL the last thing I need is a greenhouse with the heat. BUT. i am SO HAPPY I watched and used your vids on the “hoops” for raised beds, which I have here in FL. I made the cattle panel ones. And they are AWESOME. The shade cloth stays on them so well. they are SO sturdy. Even when we got some of that tropical storm Elsa that came through, and it POURED HARD & had some wind gusts. With those panels and the cloth was like mini greenhouses. Not one plant was blown out. And some water still get through the cloth. So I’m so happy with those hoops. Am the only one I know growing veggies in this heat ! 👍🤣
Thanks for this topic. Helps my questions in my small garden
I'm really looking forward.
Very timely video. Thanks!
Very helpful. Really appreciate the comprehensive checklist. These considerations have been floating around my head - now they are organized. Thanks!
I've been going back and forth on this, looked at soooo many online. Looking forward to more info on yours. Thanks for sharing. 💚✌
Very good details of the greenhouse do's and don'ts.
I live in a very windy area: just slightly east of the Altamont. Winds are very strong and will destroy just about anything. I broke down and spent about &1K on lumber and corrugated clear pvc sheets. This is far sturdier than anything I’ve found available commercially.
Very windy where I am also. I really just want to start seeds in spring so I think I'm going with coldframes.
My son built mine… lower half wood, upper glass & corrugated roof. It stops the wind but the heat is another issue. Dry hot desert area… put in a swamp cool & 3 fans with some windows open. Took awhile to learn how to use it in our climate but doing pretty good. All from seed 👵🏻👩🌾❣️
@@deecooper1567 Thanks!
Jonathan Gordon Yup same here.We got the lumber in early Jan (thank goodness), then downloaded a greenhouse plan from Ana White.Step-by-step directions and cut list.(think it was $14.99).Its almost completed...I'm so excited.
Must have been a while ago. Lumber is SKY HIGH. I'm getting my greenhouse this fall. Im doing a blend of metal pipes and lumber frame with a corrugated plastic roof and plastic sheeting for the next couple years before i finish it totally with the corrugated plastic. I'm hoping that the southern exposure has taller trees well behind it to help block hurricane winds but not the sunlight.
Thankuou for this I was thinking of getting one small one.but this helped me a lot.
Thank you for posting! We are anxious to see your upcoming experiences with the new greenhouse, as we have been thinking of getting one for our large garden here in NW wisconsin...
Great tips. Enjoy your green house G-Scott
I agree with Megan Arner! It seems that Gardener Scott is a mind reader! I love the timely videos! I wish I had the room for a greenhouse.Thank You for all the greenhouse information.
Thank you.
Perfect timing to find this! I’m going to get one this fall.. I’m in 5b southern maine. I haven’t done much research yet.
Very helpful. We're currently building a 26' dome in our back yard.
Very excited to see the greenhouse!! Ours will have to wait until next summer 😞
Definitely need one its great for seedlings in 4 in. Pots until ready for the garden.
I live in Colorado zone 5b and hail destroyed our house, we saved our old windows and built a greenhouse. I love it!!!
I found out very quickly that a plastic greenhouse will not work in my area. The one I had couldn't even hold up to 30mph winds. It not only got shredded, it tried to fly away multiple times.
Great video! Perfect timing because I’m getting ready to purchase a greenhouse. I have a southern tree line on my property. Now I’m going with the east/west alignment instead of south/ north alignment. Thanks!!!
I looked at all your comments and read your looking at a Planta greenhouse. Love the fact they have a front and back door in their greenhouse. Getting ready to purchase.
I cant do a greenhouse but I use walls of water to get warm weather plants 2-3 weeks before my frost free date. I don't get earlier production but I sure do get more robust plants. Tomatoes, peppers, squash, eggplant.
Mr Leon is the man if your trying to find tricks to keep it from blowing away
Interesting video. I am weighing pros and cons of a greenhouse versus adding windows to an area next to my house under a deck … gets a fair bit of sun and would be protected along side against garage
I'm going to watch your choice of the green house with a lot of interest. I'm also thinking about getting one, an I am in the same zone as you 5b, i also live on a mountain in the Pocono mountains, not as high as you do, an I get a lot of strong winds also. Will be watching for your choice.
We built an enclosed garden, 12.5'x33.5'. We are looking for a media to make removable panels, so it can be a green house in the spring/fall, and a regular garden in the summer. We're trying to decide between multi layered polycarbonate and solar cover for a pool. It may be another year before we get it finished. Excited to see what you get, how you use it, and how it benefits you. Oh our tomato plants, did recover from the flooding rains. And have been producing about 15 tomatoes a day, for the last week or so!
We are building a 6x6 glass and wood greenhouse this year. Looking around on market place I found tempered glass for $20 per sheet and red cedar for a $1.00 per board foot. That works out to a $2000 (canadian) savings on material. The total cost to build should be around $800.
It will add resale value (hoping not to ever sell) to the house, extend the growing season a few weeks, harden plants, and protect some plants over winter/store pots, gardening equipment, etc... It also provides a space free from birds, raccoons, and squirrels.
I am in Chilliwack BC which is a growing season 8a. But we are at the begining of the mountain range and can have some strange weather patterns although not as bad as Colorado. Last fall we got 220 mil of rain in 24 hours.
Thank you for your channel....
Those harbor freight versions went way up in price to. My 6x8 is still holding up. The panels might last a few years more with these hot temperatures baking everything. I put the length of mine north and south. Realistically if I don't have a way to provide some heat at times in the early spring plants will freeze. Then the other extreme of plants getting fried because the auto vents may not be enough to promote adequate air flow. Then there is the chance the autovents don't close soon enough and you loose heat before a colder night, or the heater turns on with the vents still open. If you only have manual vents then you will be on your toes alot. I don't regret getting mine although I only use it for maybe 1 month in the spring.
I dream of a greenhouse 😉🤗
In zone 9b Sacramento I can say no to the cost of a greenhouse. I start some seeds (peppers/tomatoes) in my garage in January under lights on seed heat mats and by April they go out in the garden. Thank goodness for our weather. Most other seeds do not need heat mats. I am picking cucumber, zucchini and squash right now and picking at least 4 dozen cherry tomatoes every day. I have cuke more Luke and more squash seeds growing in the planters for the cooler season (Sept/Oct) as I type.Thanks for sharing your info.
Informative video. I liked how you touched on all the aspects to think about when planning for a green house. Maybe when you get it you can do a compare and contrast with a hoop house or cold frame?
Thanks. Great idea. I am planning to build a hoop house and do a comparison video in the future.
Ventilation is very important as well. Going to have solar power and use a raspberry pi to regulate the ventilation and temps inside the greenhouse. I decided using a car port frame without a roof. Structure the sides at waist high with stones that absorb heat very well. Like soapstones, to keep heat on cold nights a little longer. Will have a small wood stove or some kind of heated water system to boost the heat in the cold nights, plus through winter months. I was going for the double barrel of plastic with air blow between. But might switch that to Polycarbonate panels. I do harvest rain water and it will be close to the greenhouse. Won't be doing it this year, funds are just not there yet. Hoping by next year get this project started.
I don't need a greenhouse, but I WANT one😁
I can’t wait to see which one you have. I’ve been looking and pricing one for the last few years. Can’t decide. Now I think I’m getting too old to be able to put on up 😢
He never did say did he?
One day I'll get around to sorting out the slope, clearing all the stumps/weeds and sorting the foundations on my future location. I'll remember this video.
I live in a hurricane area so i want to build a bull strong greenhouse. I would love to hear your ideas on my plan prior to me building it this fall( when it's cool enough to be outside during daylight hours). I want to build a typical house shaped building with wooden ends that are covered in polycarbonate panels and 6mill plastic wraparound sides with rollup sides. The north side will be wood covered 1/2 way up with a screened 3 ft bottom. I live in 8b/9a coastal Alabama. With wooden 1×4 or 6 run top center and bottom of roof to be able to screw the poly down and a 2×4 running down each side top mid and around the entire bottom to staple plastic to or wiggle wire if i can afford to use. I will cement the bottom of the north and south walls to build built in planters down the east and west walls. I would like to make it at least 16ft × 20ft possibly up to 25 ft. It's an odd size so I'm going to have to build it myself( well have it built
One factor u really to take in consideration is ait flow(fams)
Link to the greenhouse kit you got? I'm in Colorado Springs and would love to know.
I ordered a Planta greenhouse, but will hold off a link until I know all is good.
Interesting. Would like to know more about ventilation options, plumbing, electricity, supplemental heat systems.
I'll discuss all of that in future videos. Thanks.
@@GardenerScott great looking forward to it. Have a great weekend!!
Thanks for the thoughtful considerations to make about a greenhouse. I’m looking at evolving my current standalone design to something more sturdy like the kit design you’ve selected per your other videos. Now that you’ve had it up and put it to use per what I’ve seen in the other videos, can you share the source? Plus, living in Colorado just south of you, will the polycarbonate hold up to the large hail?
It's a Planta greenhouse. Polycarbonate is more than strong enough for hail.
Gosh I've been "putting my greenhouse together" for months now. I am however really trying to get the foundation just right, too big of an investment not to!
Use 8mm polycarbonate works great over p.t. wood frame
Very interesting and informative video. Thank you! I just can't understand how the greenhouse or raised bed should be placed according to sun path!? Perpendicular or paralel? To get max sun exposure
Thanks. Parallel to the sun path tends to provide more sun during spring and fall.
Really appreciate the timing of this video. My wife and I want one and your insights are going to be so helpful. I really look forward to seeing your las you build it. Your video brought up one question as both my wife and I are just new this year to gardening. Can seedlings not be started in a greenhouse? Again, thanks Gardener Scott.
Thanks. It depends on the seedlings and time of year, but they can often be started in a greenhouse. The unheated dome greenhouse I grew in would drop to the 20s F inside in February and early March. That is too cold to start seeds. But it would stay above freezing soon after and we could start some plants while it was too cold outside.
@@GardenerScott I appreciate the reply. I am going to make a request that I hope isn’t considered too much. When you get your kit and build your greenhouse can you add into the content the best way to utilize them? The reason I’m asking is because I - as well as others I believe - thought the reason for a greenhouse was to take the seedling growing outdoors and being able to use actual sunlight instead of grow lights. So if you could just give some tips about the best way to utilize one it would be helpful to many of us. Thanks Gardener Scott for all you do to help us beginners.
I am planning videos like that. A common misconception is that actual sunlight is better. In winter months there isn't enough natural light to support plant growth even if they're warm enough.
@@GardenerScott thank you very much
This Canadian is very curious which company you went with.
It's weird because you seem to have almost identical weather and season conditions to here in the UK, all our growing was a few weeks later than usual due to unexpected cold weather
It's similar but also not really. He has far hotter summers and far colder winters. We can grow cool weather crops earlier and later but cannot grow summer veg like tomatoes as well. Also obviously we get about 100x the rain.
My tip for harvesting tomatoes is to paint your nails the exact color of a perfect tomato, so you can compare each one to the color on your fingers, and never again pick an underdone tomato. Soon you can recognize gardeners by their tomato orange fingernails, it's a challenge so pass it on~
I'm sure Kiri and the grandkids would love to help you paint your nails, it'll be fun, come to the dark side~
Hello Mr. Scott! Thanks for your videos. I'm starting now and I'd like to grow only hot peppers. I live in Belgium where winters are cold. Should I use a greenhouse? Thanks!
Hello, Linda. Much depends on the variety of pepper and how long your growing season is. I have difficulty growing sweet peppers outside and a greenhouse does better for me. But my hot dry summer is ideal for many hot peppers and they do well for me outside. I harvest before the frost comes and kills the plants. If you need a longer season, a greenhouse may be better for you.
@@GardenerScott thank you! I’ll consider that.
My question is, which is the best direction in which to orientate a greenhouse? I've read to place a greenhouse running from north to south so you can get the best sun during the day from east to west. Would this be correct? But overall a very informative greenhouse video for beginners. Thank you
That is true during the summer, but as I mention in the video, you'll get more sun with east-west orientation during the spring and fall months.
Great Video Scott. Me and my family here in zone 6 New Hampshire have been strongly considering putting a green house up this fall so this is great timing. My biggest concern is the heating of it in the cold..and whether or not I would be able to actually grow anything with how weak the sun gets during the winter months. Do you expect to be able grow tomatoes,for instance, through the winter months?
Your concerns are valid. Without extra lighting the plants grow too slowly in winter. I have tried spinach, beets, chard, and carrots over winter and there is almost no noticeable growth with the limited sun. I'm not planning to grow much during those months.
Hi gardener Scott!
I live in New York Westchester I have green house
32x48 feet direction place north &south ,just I purchased 20 rise beds
3x8 feet ready to put in green house
What is the better rise beds to put in side cross or direction are built green house !
Thanks really I’m join your video are very interesting
@@prekeujkaj1625 I've found that the direction is not as important inside the greenhouse. They should be placed so you can move and work easily in the beds with enough space for rows between them.
@@GardenerScott
Thank you very much mr.Scott
May I please make some more considerations for prospective greenhouse buyers? 1. Why do you want a greenhouse? Some people will grow things in greenhouses that do not grow well in their climate, cacti or orchids where they don't grow naturally. 2. Is there enough ventilation in the greenhouse? The difference between a greenhouse and a hothouse is how well it's ventilated. 3. You get what you pay for. I have a cheap one that I use only for storage. 4.How will you water inside your greenhouse? You mention this but they fog up fast. 5. Don't trust the pictures.
What Canadian company did you go with for your greenhouse? I like the design.
It is a Planta greenhouse.
I need a green house because I'm growing salad leaves, lettuces, Rocket and some others, but my weather is too hot, so they end it up going to seed to fast. So I needed to lower down their temperature..
Ventilation and shade cloth can help.
@@GardenerScott thanks for replying, yeah I wasn't sure which one to get. I guess with the shade cloth and the green house will be enough. Hopefully the shade cloth minimize the temperature inside, and Rockets, lettuces and radishes can thrive nicely.. perhaps it will help me out also with this worm that always kills my zucchinis. You know it's kind of dumb, I have great weather for them, but that pest is very annoying. great video btw, Scott, 👍🏻
A man 50 miles south of me built a greenhouse with 12 mil plastic. It stood up to 120 mph gusts. We don't get much hail here and just a little bit of snow. I have heard that polycarbonate windows have to be replaced as often as every 4 years so sunlight can still get through.
Does anyone have experience with 12 mil plastic vs 6, 8 and 10 mil which are commercially available. I want to build climate battery greenhouses. Still in planning stages.
I'm in a similar situation to you, where I'm in Canada, so the growing season is short. I'm thinking about doubling up on the greenhouse plastic. Would this be good or bad? I would absolutely love to be able to have peppers all year round staying alive in the greenhouse. Would putting two layers of the plastic help? Or will that cause problems?
Doubling the plastic should add a few extra degrees of protection. It may not be enough to grow peppers year-round without additional heat.
I am looking to get a greenhouse kit as well. I am in Canada. Who is your greenhouse kit supplier? Thanks
I ordered from Planta Greenhouses.
The main thing you forgot are the companies you are considering so other people can make a decision. Also find companies they might have not known existed.
My guess is, he will once he gets the unit he bought and tapes it.
Have you put together your greenhouse?
I have and show it in other videos.
wife says "no". End of my greenhouse story.