It's funny because I LOVE Phantom of the Opera and this is nowhere near my favourite version of it, lack of pipe organs for one, lol. I'm fairly certain the original starts in Dm though, then to Gm, Em, Fm Gm before finishing in Am with the last note a high E. Nice reaction and I look forward to more Nightwish ones.
@@Doug.Helvering Tarja Turunen does this song still with her band , male vocalist do not match Marko Hietalas voice and also Tarja does not go as high at the end . Tarja Turunen - The Phantom of the Opera 2014 , in Argentina , th-cam.com/video/RYzmAQMsR2c/w-d-xo.html 6 min 54 sec , pipe organ in beginning .
For me it's Marko's singing that makes this my favourite version of the song, all the other phantom's I've heard have been too clean they don't sound like dangerous guys that have been hiding in the basement nursing their obsession for decades.
There is a version by Lacrimosa, where Thilo really sounds like the ultimate madmen. Even more than Marko. But I prefer Marko's singing as he sounds dangerous, mad, but still kind of ... attractive? I mean, the Phantom once was the star of the opera. ;-)
"I'm not going anywhere NEAR that discussion..." That's the mark of a wise man. Jokes aside, I really appreciate your stance on this. I think we could all benefit from a little less comparing and a little more enjoying excellent artists for who THEY are.
I have seen every version of the band so far (We will see what happens with Marko leaving as I have tickets to the first show in L.A. this year) and every singer and member has been amazing in their own right. Smart to stay away from the argument. It's the music world's version of "Coke vs Pepsi"
Well I'm a fan of both of them, so I get upset no matter which one someone deems "superior" to the other. Their voice qualities are so different that trying to make a competition out of it is always somewhat forced.
6:39 "I imagine that's the kinda sound that Lloyd Webber wanted to have..." Yes - Andrew Lloyd Webber has actually said on record that he heard this version and it is his favorite!
Lloyd Webber wanted the sound that Sarah Brightman had, one has to assume. Unless, like me, you think he cast Sarah Brightman because she was his partner. I never liked her voice. Actually, maybe it's just my ears, but that high D sounded just a tad flat to me.
Actually No... We don't want you to compare Floor and Tarja. We are aware that both are great, both are different with different strengths, and we are just happy that we got to enjoy these two GREAT singers sing with this band we love. Same with Marco, who's also an outstanding singer.
@@richardgoddard37 I didn't start listening to Nightwish until Annette had her second album with the band so she was the first for me. Then I backtracked to Tarja and fast-forwarded to Floor. It was like the Insidious movies 😂 for me.
@@joeysmith5086 Amaranth was the first Nightwish song I heard, and I remember loving it and just binging the back catalogue with Tarja. Annete's voice is nice, and fits Dark Passion Play well. Tarja is a great operatic singer. Then you've got Floor who is the best of both worlds imo and I actually prefer to both. Which is a shame as I haven't liked any of the music they've made with Floor.
Yeah I feel like he is not appreciated enough in these videos :D Also, compared to this era, he is often just mixed as a background vocalist when he sings next to Floor.
Marko sounds like an utter madman to a classically trained singer, especially with how he does this song. I love the contrast with Tarja's voice! They are both so fabulous. Sidenote: I would love to see a version of this with Tarja as Christine and Floor as the Phantom. Edit: Good man! I do not do singer vs wars with any vocalists either! With Nightwish and the 3 ladies they've had singing for them, it's like comparing an apple, banana, and strawberry. It's pure nonsense!
I agree 100%. Marko has to sing really high to harmonize with Tarja, which is a soprano. That's not an easy feat. So always when I see that discussion "Tarja, Anette or Floor, who's the best?" I answer "Marko". He's more than just a bass player and backup vocalist, he's really good at what he does!
I actually think that different Nightwish tracks suit different singers. I assume Tuomas wrote for the singer he had at the time to some extent. Phantom is perfect the way Tarja and Marko did it (though I suspect Florr would do it great too), GLS and Storytime the way Floor does them are absolute perfection. I really love Annette's voice for Amaranth. That lovely, bouncy quality that scandinavian singers have fits it so well.
@@waragainstsleepx2517 Floor did a great version on Beste Zangers with Henk Poort (who PLAYED the Phantom). REALLY impressive. So hard to choose; Henk is a powerful baritone, but Marko SOUNDS like a villain... and, of course, Floor and Tarja are both … incredible.
@@johnrose5482 Hard to choose ? I tell you a secret ! ;-) You dont have to choose ! Listen to both ! :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Don't be afraid to pause to talk and get out what you want to say so you don't feel rushed to keep paying attention to the music while getting your thoughts out. We're here to listen to what you have to say more than the music good sir.
I agree, every reactor should pause as much as they need for *their own* comments. Fans should go to original video or album if they just want to hear the original performance. That said, some fans seem to think that if you pause you should rewind e.g. 5 seconds (press cursor left button on your keyboard) before continuing to be sure not to miss anything.
I believe it really is 'all rise' which would make sense at least as a straight Finnish-to-English translation, calling everybody to stand up in case someone managed to stay seated during that.
It's definitely "all right". A 't' sound can be somewhat 's' sounding when you drag it out but it would have been much clearer if he actually said "rise".
Agree, People often forget Tarja is still the longest running Nightwish singer, not only by years, but also by production (Tarja 5 albums vs Anette and Floor who have only 2 albums each) and Floor is only now catching up on her on years. I wish Tarja'd get a bit more love from the reactors apart from this one song Nightwish is much more than just Floor (while she is amazing), it is a 25 year epic musical journey
That's really a reason of technology/time. There are simply more (and better) live recordings with Floor because she's recorded much later. It's way easier and cheaper to record a live concert now than it was 15 years ago, and it's also way more common to find these recordings released on the internet.
This my favourite version of Phantom. Tarja is absolutely incredible. I really think you are doing right thing staying out the vocalist preference. Annette never gets any love, but her style as a soloist doing her thing is better suited than Nightwish. If you do another Nightwish track, Ever Dream is fantastic. I know you'll scoff at the progression already 🤣
#Annette_Olzon is flawless in the studio Storytime & Meadows of Heaven. She owns both imho. I don't think Floors variances help Storytime much. And she doesn't seem to sing Meadows.
No, we Nightwish fans don't ask that question. Each one of the three singers have their own style, and each is very good at what she does. We usually stay away from this specific question, and praise each and every one of them. Kudos for not answering that. :)
@@Paintiron About NW we could call a lot of things "a mistake", so, we better not discuss that, in fact, in my opinion, Anette doesn't have the best voice, betwen the 3, but the worst albums were made with Floor, even that her voice is amazing, so, better not talk about it like our friend Thomas said above hahah
@@isab.c.6702 I disagree about worse albums but that's not what I'm talking about. Being good or bad singer is one thing. Being singer who just stops singing and goes off stage is terrible. For me and many more NW fans Anette could never be part of the band and nothing would change. Question that is never asked among NW fans is for example - if Marco will be missed.
there's nothing special about that one. and "Pink Floyd cover" is kind of an oxymoron to begin with, the originals are just too fricking great. better do your own thing then.
if you'd like to hear how Floor sings Phantom of the Opera. She does an amazing duet with Henk Poort, who is the Dutch Phantom. They duet together on a Dutch TV show called Beste Zangers.
Please do Iron Maiden - Phantom of the Opera - this isn't by the way, anything to do with the Lloyd Webber tune.... Love these reaction vids by the way - really interesting, cheers.
I would like to suggest one more performance with Tarja. Please react to "The siren", a live performance recorded on the DVD "End of an era". Thank you so much for also giving Tarja space on your channel!
One thing you should know about this performance, and why Tarja sounded a little out of breath at times and why she left the stage so quickly, was that she had a terrible case of the flu. Between just about every song she ran out to the dressing room to throw up, and still she managed to sing like that with such energy.
The main reason I've never been a fan of the males part of the Phantom on broadway and such, is because they didn't have a sinister sound, which I've always thought it should've been. This version is by far the better version.
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I love Nigtwish, and I won't mince any words. In my opinion Tarja has the most beautiful voice out of the three female singers. Floor is great, but I think Tarja is a cleaner singer. Anntte Olzon is also a great singer. She was also one of the lead singers. Not sure if you listened to these NW songs, but here you go just in case: The Poet and the Pendilum Ghost Love Score Story TIme The Greatest Show On Earth
This Nightwish version is the best version to me. Just listened to the Brightman/Banderas version on YT for comparison. Was not so impressed, but that's just me, matter of taste.
Oh yeah... First I saw the Nightwish version, then I wanted to know how they sing it Broadway style. I chose the version Brightman/Banderas. I was so disappointed! I stopped it halfway.
To me, this is the best Phantom of the opera there is. And I love her voice. So beautiful. Thank you for the reaction. Please react to Tarja with Mien Herr Marquis and Oasis. Here are the links: mein herr marquis th-cam.com/video/761qOzEdl8E/w-d-xo.html oasis th-cam.com/video/K3QmQN7VSNI/w-d-xo.html Stay safe.
As a classical composer it would be really, really, REALLY interesting to get your reaction to, and thoughts on, the song "Keeper of the Seven Keys" by german metal band Helloween (the United Alive live version on TH-cam is excellent). Also, you should check out some of the (neo-classical inspired) stuff by Finnish band Stratovarius (the songs Black Diamond, Destiny or Will the Sun Rise are good starting points) and German/international supergroup Avantasia (too many good tracks to pick just one...). Keep up the good video-work!
With Tarja...❤ That was Fall, Helsinki, Finland 2005, "End of an Era" Tour concert. I was 18 then, I'm now 37. Marko said "Well alright" in a slow roll of the tongue at the end. This was the last time we heard the Siren, the Viking, the Pirate, the Vampire & the Zombie all perform together. I'll never forget it... Cheers from Portland, OR! 🍻😎 Thank you for sporting this reaction vid!!!
I am huge Nightwish fan and this was my introduction to the band. I really like Marco's take on the Phantom. It's they way it should be. The Phantom is a deranged madman, a homicidal maniac. Give it that color is perfect.
Same. Someone linked the video for this song for me a few years back. I really liked it and looked for other Nightwish stuff.Then I discovered Sleeping Sun, then Ghost Love Score, then Shoemaker, then Gethsemane, then... well, you get the idea! Nightwish has been my favourite band ever since!
Smart man not falling into the comparison/which is better trap. I think what happened needed to happen all those years ago to get the music we have from their collection of singers. It sucks that all the backlash occurred that caused some wounds that will always be scars, but from a music standpoint, it brought forth different approaches that are for the better.
Won't compare Floor and Tarja, but everyone forgets about Annette :( Definitely don't miss out on their work with the 2nd vocalist, Imaginaerum is an amazing album. Highly recommend the live version of "Scaretale" as a reaction.
I guess Anette isn't as talented vocalist as Floor and Tarja, or perhaps as highly trained vocalist? I am no way an expert and I can only say that Anette is without a doubt better singer than I ever hope to be. For me the songs I have heard her sing, haven't really made an impression to me, that i would listen to them again. Perhaps that is just a preference of style than talent, I wouldn't know.
I guess Doug already told that he wants to stay away from that discussion for good reasons. And I fully agree with Doug on that. Both ladies are phenomenal singers ... full stop.
From a Nightwish fan from when she was 13 (like.. 20 years ago..): Later in the years I learned of a band called After Forever where the leadsinger was Floor Jansen. I always thought, if I could have the perfect band, it would be Nightwish, which Floor Jansen. Now I have that. But the first 3 albums with Tarja. Golden. Love them for ever as they are. Tarja Turunen is the only one who could entice me away with Sleepwalker (as a teenager, my first _ever_ metal song and Nightiwish-song. And it as great.). Also, totally understand the "not going near the discussion", as.. I wouldn't either. They both have their strengths. For me, with this one comment, I'm trying to bring notice to Tarja Turunen as the lead singer for Sleepwalker...
Doug may not be willing to compare the singers, but I will. Studio: Anette Live: Floor Muse: Tarja All of them are awesome and comparisons aren't automatically an either or.
Nice you didn't take a side on that "Floor vs. Tarja" discussion. It's pointless. Anette Olzon (the 2nd Nightwish vocalist) was also awesome on her own way. And so is Marko (the bass player/Phantom on this video). For more Tarja era songs, I found weird the Nightwish army didn't recommend "Nemo", one of their most famous songs. And if you're interested on Anette's singing, "Amaranth" is a cool song.
Nightwish The Siren from the same concert and if you want to try Tarja as a Solo Artist then go for Supremacy live i'll live the links of the songs. th-cam.com/video/LUy8T_3kieI/w-d-xo.html - The Siren th-cam.com/video/6qSuCMKF2n4/w-d-xo.html - Supremacy
If you want more Tarja, I highly recommend checking out some recordings from her solo career, particularly the live recording of "Undertaker". Also, you should check out "Bismarck" by Sabaton-Floor is married to their drummer.
That thought at the end of what a singer adds to a song and why they shouldn't be compared is just beautiful! In between of Tarja and Floor, there was another singer: Anette. She was very criticized because she doesn't have an operatic voice style like Tarjas (she has her own style and I'm sure she has some vocal training, of course, but the focus of Anette was to sound very different from what Tarja's voice added to the band), and there has always been a very hard and cruel opinion of what Anette added to the band, its a shame. I'm not sure if you would like to review her or just listen to her for fun, I recommend the song Amaranth or Scaretale, there isn't an official live video with her unfortunately, but you should give her a shot, just for fun Thank you, big fan!
Doug You need to know about a Brazillian melodic metal band called "Angra" the old band of Kiko Loureiro ( new megadeath guitar player ), it's just amazing!!!!!! This particular album is a MASTERPIECE !! th-cam.com/video/28ESt3FnJ7I/w-d-xo.html
if you love nightwish, I suggest the rhapsody of fire or Luca Turilli's Rhapsody is like the same think. the best mix between classic and metal mix. suggest Of Michael the Archangel and Lucifer's Fall part 1 and 2.
Oh come on, you can say that you prefer Tarja, no one will blame you!!! :p Joking. I have a soft spot for Tarja because I've known the band with her in 2001 but Floor is awesome! And keep in mind that Floor and Tarja are actually friends! More Tarja with NW please: from the live "from wishes to eternity" : "deep silent complete", "the pharaoh sails to Orion", "Swanheart", "Dead boy's poem", "Walking in the air" (yes, the cover). From the live "End of an Era" : "The siren", "sleeping sun", "Wish I had an angel". And with Floor, "shoemaker" obviously but for this one, do some research first. Spoiler alert: it's not about a man who makes shoes!!!!!! lol
First, have some happy news to make sure you are aware of -- Floor and Tarja are great friends, speak often, and as recently as December 9, 2020, Tarja hosted an Instagram "livestream" where she interviewed Floor (see "Instagram Live With Floor Jansen", at th-cam.com/video/rdF1AdCOxBA/w-d-xo.html). Always great to know the two singers themselves get along well (and no doubt share some "singing tips" in the process)! Tarja's best video, I feel, is "Until My Last Breath", available at th-cam.com/video/G-i4wUTtkZc/w-d-xo.html, currently with about 11 million views. Beautifully staged and shot, the composition is one of her best -- in recent live shows she was using it as the climax to her performance. Finally, yes I agree with all of the other commenters that you absolutely MUST watch Floor and Henk's "Phantom of the Opera" at th-cam.com/video/plCScjvDOJM/w-d-xo.html. The Beste Zangers series has an advantage over the recordings of many live concert performances, as it was filmed in a TV studio specifically equipped to highlight the vocal mix. Keep well ...
I'm not a huge fan of that genre of metal in general, but I like that version of this song. Please, react to "Czesław Niemen - Bema pamięci żałobny rapsod" ;) . th-cam.com/video/CgkWs5p6Nk0/w-d-xo.html
If only Nightwish had been the Phantom house band...that musical would have been a success! jk. I agree with you -- it would have been more of a *musical* success. Try Unleash The Archers: Awakening or Cleanse the Bloodlines
BTW - a lot of people have been recommending Phantom of the Opera by Iron Maiden. That is a sublime song that 100% should be covered. Maybe Doug got confused, I don't know.
Probably already written, but it was performed at the very last show with Tarja. She was the only member who didn't know she was fired this night. Strange to see knowing it. About another performance with Tarja and Nightwish, their most iconic song with her is Wishmaster, even if they already release Ghost love score. You will not find it complex, but it will stick in your brain. It is Tarja song and she still sing it without the band.
Of course you don't want to compare the Nightwish vocalist because that would piss off the neo-Nightwish fans. but let's be honest Floor as great as she may be, could not have rendered this song like this. Floor is great in her own way, but she's more of a rock/metal style singer. Tarja is a more classical influenced singer and that is what shaped the original Nightwish and made them unique and special. Sure, they are still a great band, but they aren't that same unique blend they originally were and Tarja was a large part of that. In fact, by tuomas own words, she was the inspiration behind the entire original concept. His initial plan was supposedly to go in a more Folk inspired direction like his Auri project.
I'm not keen on the original production, but it's better than this. It's too over the top. Yeah, the original would benefit from being a little heavier but this is too much. The woman is good, but the guy is the wrong opposite to her. They are supposed to be 'lovers'. I mean, good effort but it just doesn't work.
LOL "no cell phones". Those were the days. Then again, if they had cell phones at that show, all their screens would probably have cracked when Tarja hit those high notes😁.
Tarja has very deep, dark voice. If you want to hear her low notes, you should listen something from her solo career. Can you react her song "Victim of Ritual" live from Woodstock 2016?
Thank you! I've always felt like this version with its fire, punch and intensity sounds "more right" than the original or those that follow the original more closely.
Amen, what you said about the singers is straight up right on. They are both fantastic singers and each brings a different and unique tone and take on each song they perform.
It's funny because I LOVE Phantom of the Opera and this is nowhere near my favourite version of it, lack of pipe organs for one, lol.
I'm fairly certain the original starts in Dm though, then to Gm, Em, Fm Gm before finishing in Am with the last note a high E.
Nice reaction and I look forward to more Nightwish ones.
I had to check this...you're right! Kudos and thanks for the correction.
@@Doug.Helvering Thanks, I had to double check myself - paused the video and got my copy of the score, lol.
Glad you liked this song.
@@laalratty I just remember playing the main riff in C minor in high school...old memories die hard...
@@Doug.Helvering Tarja Turunen does this song still with her band , male vocalist do not match Marko Hietalas voice and also Tarja does not go as high at the end .
Tarja Turunen - The Phantom of the Opera 2014 , in Argentina , th-cam.com/video/RYzmAQMsR2c/w-d-xo.html 6 min 54 sec , pipe organ in beginning .
@@Doug.Helvering do a Reaction to Nightwish "Shoemaker" Official Video
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For me it's Marko's singing that makes this my favourite version of the song, all the other phantom's I've heard have been too clean they don't sound like dangerous guys that have been hiding in the basement nursing their obsession for decades.
There is a version by Lacrimosa, where Thilo really sounds like the ultimate madmen. Even more than Marko. But I prefer Marko's singing as he sounds dangerous, mad, but still kind of ... attractive? I mean, the Phantom once was the star of the opera. ;-)
@@AleDrinkingSpirit will check that out.
"I'm not going anywhere NEAR that discussion..." That's the mark of a wise man. Jokes aside, I really appreciate your stance on this. I think we could all benefit from a little less comparing and a little more enjoying excellent artists for who THEY are.
Agreed 100%.
I have seen every version of the band so far (We will see what happens with Marko leaving as I have tickets to the first show in L.A. this year) and every singer and member has been amazing in their own right.
Smart to stay away from the argument. It's the music world's version of "Coke vs Pepsi"
@@HauntSlider Only difference is that Floor and Tarja are both great... Pepsi not so much. :P
By the way, Floor and Tarja are friends in real life.
Well I'm a fan of both of them, so I get upset no matter which one someone deems "superior" to the other. Their voice qualities are so different that trying to make a competition out of it is always somewhat forced.
6:39 "I imagine that's the kinda sound that Lloyd Webber wanted to have..."
Yes - Andrew Lloyd Webber has actually said on record that he heard this version and it is his favorite!
Can you tell me the source? I've heard of it, but I never actually found where he said it.
Lloyd Webber wanted the sound that Sarah Brightman had, one has to assume. Unless, like me, you think he cast Sarah Brightman because she was his partner. I never liked her voice.
Actually, maybe it's just my ears, but that high D sounded just a tad flat to me.
@@NickBR57 no - not the voice, we meant the instruments.
@@andrewawakened628 Ah, sorry, misunderstood
@@NickBR57 A.L.W. had said a few times and even magazine interviews in print that he wished he wrote and recorded the song the way NIGHTWISH did it.
Actually No... We don't want you to compare Floor and Tarja. We are aware that both are great, both are different with different strengths, and we are just happy that we got to enjoy these two GREAT singers sing with this band we love. Same with Marco, who's also an outstanding singer.
Well said!
I liked Annette too. She was fantastic on the albums.
@@richardgoddard37 I didn't start listening to Nightwish until Annette had her second album with the band so she was the first for me. Then I backtracked to Tarja and fast-forwarded to Floor. It was like the Insidious movies 😂 for me.
@@joeysmith5086 same
@@joeysmith5086 Amaranth was the first Nightwish song I heard, and I remember loving it and just binging the back catalogue with Tarja. Annete's voice is nice, and fits Dark Passion Play well. Tarja is a great operatic singer. Then you've got Floor who is the best of both worlds imo and I actually prefer to both. Which is a shame as I haven't liked any of the music they've made with Floor.
Marko and Tarja. Best version ever. Still gives me goosebumps.
One answer to the question of "Which Nightwish singer is the best?" that is fair, safe, and close to the truth is: Marco.
Yeah I feel like he is not appreciated enough in these videos :D Also, compared to this era, he is often just mixed as a background vocalist when he sings next to Floor.
No.
he used to be the best for me also now he left nightwish and i can say NW is rip to me
its true, LOL
They were at their peak with Tarja and Marco
Marko sounds like an utter madman to a classically trained singer, especially with how he does this song. I love the contrast with Tarja's voice! They are both so fabulous. Sidenote: I would love to see a version of this with Tarja as Christine and Floor as the Phantom. Edit: Good man! I do not do singer vs wars with any vocalists either! With Nightwish and the 3 ladies they've had singing for them, it's like comparing an apple, banana, and strawberry. It's pure nonsense!
I agree 100%. Marko has to sing really high to harmonize with Tarja, which is a soprano. That's not an easy feat. So always when I see that discussion "Tarja, Anette or Floor, who's the best?" I answer "Marko". He's more than just a bass player and backup vocalist, he's really good at what he does!
I actually think that different Nightwish tracks suit different singers. I assume Tuomas wrote for the singer he had at the time to some extent. Phantom is perfect the way Tarja and Marko did it (though I suspect Florr would do it great too), GLS and Storytime the way Floor does them are absolute perfection. I really love Annette's voice for Amaranth. That lovely, bouncy quality that scandinavian singers have fits it so well.
@@waragainstsleepx2517 Floor did a great version on Beste Zangers with Henk Poort (who PLAYED the Phantom). REALLY impressive. So hard to choose; Henk is a powerful baritone, but Marko SOUNDS like a villain... and, of course, Floor and Tarja are both … incredible.
@@johnrose5482 Hard to choose ?
I tell you a secret ! ;-)
You dont have to choose ! Listen to both !
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Oddly, that IS my choice... I DO have preferences of course, but Phantom and Ever Dream are two of the "damn, BOTH ladies do SUCH a good job" songs...
Don't be afraid to pause to talk and get out what you want to say so you don't feel rushed to keep paying attention to the music while getting your thoughts out. We're here to listen to what you have to say more than the music good sir.
agree! BUT i think he might evade a little copy righ by speaking over the song, we have heard all this songs plenty of times.
@@chilesuicmez That's just old ladies story. TH-cam Content ID can successfully detect the audio no matter how much you pause.
I agree, every reactor should pause as much as they need for *their own* comments. Fans should go to original video or album if they just want to hear the original performance. That said, some fans seem to think that if you pause you should rewind e.g. 5 seconds (press cursor left button on your keyboard) before continuing to be sure not to miss anything.
If you want to See Marco's clear vocal, please do Nightwish - The Islander (Live At Tampere)
Yes, or Kiss while your lips are still red, live at Wembley.
In my opinion, "High Hopes" was his best performance
Marko said Alright!
Yep, but I first heard it as "all rise!" Which is some how far cooler
I believe it really is 'all rise' which would make sense at least as a straight Finnish-to-English translation, calling everybody to stand up in case someone managed to stay seated during that.
It's definitely "all right". A 't' sound can be somewhat 's' sounding when you drag it out but it would have been much clearer if he actually said "rise".
@@adamtaylor9617 or "ohhhh riiisssse"
It's nice to see a review of Tarja. I love Floor with her range/technique but I feel like Tarja is left out in reaction/analysis videos.
Agree, People often forget Tarja is still the longest running Nightwish singer, not only by years, but also by production (Tarja 5 albums vs Anette and Floor who have only 2 albums each) and Floor is only now catching up on her on years. I wish Tarja'd get a bit more love from the reactors apart from this one song
Nightwish is much more than just Floor (while she is amazing), it is a 25 year epic musical journey
Everyone forgets or doesn't want to react to Annette
@@HurtboxTV There aren't that many good quality live videos with her.
Only for the lack of HQ/HD live videos, as the Helsinki show is not nearly as nicely done as Wacken, Wembley, Tampere, or Buenos Aires...
That's really a reason of technology/time. There are simply more (and better) live recordings with Floor because she's recorded much later. It's way easier and cheaper to record a live concert now than it was 15 years ago, and it's also way more common to find these recordings released on the internet.
I kinda wish Tuomas would write a proper rock musical some day :)
?? we thought he had =P
Didn't he already do that..??!!
"Imaginareum" and "life and adventure of Scrooge"...?!
@@emmaofdragons2720 - that is precisely what i was thinking...
This my favourite version of Phantom. Tarja is absolutely incredible. I really think you are doing right thing staying out the vocalist preference. Annette never gets any love, but her style as a soloist doing her thing is better suited than Nightwish.
If you do another Nightwish track, Ever Dream is fantastic. I know you'll scoff at the progression already 🤣
#Annette_Olzon is flawless in the studio Storytime & Meadows of Heaven. She owns both imho. I don't think Floors variances help Storytime much. And she doesn't seem to sing Meadows.
I love what Anette is doing with The Dark Element. She has the perfect voice for that kind of metal.
No, we Nightwish fans don't ask that question. Each one of the three singers have their own style, and each is very good at what she does. We usually stay away from this specific question, and praise each and every one of them. Kudos for not answering that. :)
Not true at all. We Nightwish fans don't ask that question because we know that Anette Olzon was a mistake.
@@Paintiron About NW we could call a lot of things "a mistake", so, we better not discuss that, in fact, in my opinion, Anette doesn't have the best voice, betwen the 3, but the worst albums were made with Floor, even that her voice is amazing, so, better not talk about it like our friend Thomas said above hahah
@@isab.c.6702 I disagree about worse albums but that's not what I'm talking about. Being good or bad singer is one thing. Being singer who just stops singing and goes off stage is terrible. For me and many more NW fans Anette could never be part of the band and nothing would change.
Question that is never asked among NW fans is for example - if Marco will be missed.
@@Paintiron but I think NW fans where very bad to Anette, I feel bad for her, think she could be better if she had some support.
@@Paintiron Please don't start the Tarja vs Anette flame wars again. 5 years of it was more than enough.
Hey, you should definitely check out nightwish Pink Floyd high hopes cover same show, awesome thanks 😎
I 2nd that! Spoiler alert: NW kills it!
@@brewswillis9783 I will 3rd that cos its fabulous.
4thed!
there's nothing special about that one. and "Pink Floyd cover" is kind of an oxymoron to begin with, the originals are just too fricking great. better do your own thing then.
Did you catch Marko at 3:45 making the “eye glass spectacle” as The Phantom. 👌🏻 He portrays this “crazed / demented phantom” perfectly!
Honestly I think that we Nightwish fans are blessed to have three amazing lead female vocalists
2*
3*
And then to also have/have had Marco.
Anette was horrible singer in Nightwish. She was just like a ABBA singer.
@@ACorpseWithoutSoul Abba singers are great. And I guess you don't know anything about singing cause Anette in her style was amazing.
Do Clansman from Iron Maiden, Rock in Rio
if you'd like to hear how Floor sings Phantom of the Opera. She does an amazing duet with Henk Poort, who is the Dutch Phantom.
They duet together on a Dutch TV show called Beste Zangers.
Yea, Henk has a pretty cool voice too.
@@GAIS414 Yep, he even goes metal for a moment....
Floor is absolutely amazing.
I know the clip... it's a very good performance too, with Henk singing with distortion for the first time.
Floor and Henk Poort where amazing in their duet, Henk Poort was the Phantom in the Dutch musical.
Totally agree, Doug"s overall respect to musicians.
You looked up the pronunciation of Tarja's name! Nice touch
All rise (for Tarja). If you know the history, you understand the significance.
Interestingly, both Tarja and Marco were sick with the flu at this concert. Just shows what professionals can do when they have to!
Mad respect for not falling into the bottomless pit that is Tarja vs Floor debate.
LOVE THIS 🤘😁🤘
Ayy, it's the man, the myth, the legend himself!
It's the modern day Red Beard the Pirate!
so this I why you revisited it haha fuck ya \m/
Haven't expected to see ya here 😄Love your content.
We all know who the best Nightwish singer is.... Marko! 😊❤️
Unfortunately was and hopefully will be again.
Devil & The Deep Dark Ocean sounds nice, but i never really tried listening to them much though.
Please do Iron Maiden - Phantom of the Opera - this isn't by the way, anything to do with the Lloyd Webber tune....
Love these reaction vids by the way - really interesting, cheers.
I agree 🤘🏽🤘🏽
he has done it by now
do EPICA - design your universe live retrospect, i really want to see what you think
Epica absolutely deserves a review from Doug... I guess he'll like Simone's voice very much.
@@eddys.3524 And not like Marks growling..lol
Marko will be missed so much!!
I would like to suggest one more performance with Tarja. Please react to "The siren", a live performance recorded on the DVD "End of an era". Thank you so much for also giving Tarja space on your channel!
Andrew Lloyd Weber said that this was his favorite version. As a side note, the keyboardist, Toumas Holopainen's favorite composer is Hans Zimmer.
Really? When did ALW say that?
@@davguev Very unlikely. ALW literally set up the original and subsequent productions.
@@davguev It's my understanding that he informed Nightwish of that.
Ah.... that explains the use of the main theme from King Arthur years ago at the end of their shows.
@@eddys.3524 You can definitely hear hints of Hans Zimmer in Tuomas' works.
One thing you should know about this performance, and why Tarja sounded a little out of breath at times and why she left the stage so quickly, was that she had a terrible case of the flu. Between just about every song she ran out to the dressing room to throw up, and still she managed to sing like that with such energy.
My favorite era of Nightwish by far, and what a POWERFUL version of the Phantom of the Opera.
Never get tired of this version. It´s awesome. Good to you, Doug, for discovering this gem.
Hey Doug please react to Haggard Eppur si muove this band is Classical music with metal and you'll really enjoy it!
The main reason I've never been a fan of the males part of the Phantom on broadway and such, is because they didn't have a sinister sound, which I've always thought it should've been.
This version is by far the better version.
React to Angra - Stand Away featuring Tarja and Fabio Lione
What a great song! And nobody has ever react to it yet
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Amazing song! I'd love to see a reaction of this video.
Please...Nightwish - "Beauty of the beast"
For an other Tarja song do Wishmaster
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I love Nigtwish, and I won't mince any words. In my opinion Tarja has the most beautiful voice out of the three female singers. Floor is great, but I think Tarja is a cleaner singer. Anntte Olzon is also a great singer. She was also one of the lead singers. Not sure if you listened to these NW songs, but here you go just in case:
The Poet and the Pendilum
Ghost Love Score
Story TIme
The Greatest Show On Earth
Nemo is a Tarja classic
This Nightwish version is the best version to me.
Just listened to the Brightman/Banderas version on YT for comparison. Was not so impressed, but that's just me, matter of taste.
Oh yeah...
First I saw the Nightwish version, then I wanted to know how they sing it Broadway style.
I chose the version Brightman/Banderas.
I was so disappointed! I stopped it halfway.
React to "Wintersun - Sons of winter and stars - Live rehearsal @ Sonic Pump Studios"
The World needs „ The Day That The World Breaks Down by Ayreon“ in these times.
Regards
To me, this is the best Phantom of the opera there is. And I love her voice. So beautiful. Thank you for the reaction. Please react to Tarja with Mien Herr Marquis and Oasis.
Here are the links:
mein herr marquis
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oasis
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Stay safe.
Love this arrangement. Marko kills it. Tarja's vocals are so good and that D6 she hits at the end is spot on
Creepy phantom Marco claims another.
And now Iron Maiden's own original take on the subject matter, please :-)
Live with Paul Dianno
Please react to Phantom of the Opera by Iron Maiden
Wow......Tarja is nailing it, what a great opera voice. And Marko is awesome
As a classical composer it would be really, really, REALLY interesting to get your reaction to, and thoughts on, the song "Keeper of the Seven Keys" by german metal band Helloween (the United Alive live version on TH-cam is excellent). Also, you should check out some of the (neo-classical inspired) stuff by Finnish band Stratovarius (the songs Black Diamond, Destiny or Will the Sun Rise are good starting points) and German/international supergroup Avantasia (too many good tracks to pick just one...).
Keep up the good video-work!
I agree!
YES to "Keeper of the seven keys"!
Yes to Keeper! Also it would be interesting if he reacts to some of the over-ten-minutes Rhapsody songs.
@@MattSamma i think he will enjoy “The Dark Tower of Abyss” by Rhapsody. Heavily influenced by baroque classical
Yes! Doug should react to Keeper of the seven keys!!!
More Tarja reacción I recommend wishmaster and dark chest of wonders with tarja 🖤
Please react to Tarja's version of Supremacy live at Woodstock!! Blown away!!
With Tarja...❤ That was Fall, Helsinki, Finland 2005, "End of an Era" Tour concert. I was 18 then, I'm now 37. Marko said "Well alright" in a slow roll of the tongue at the end. This was the last time we heard the Siren, the Viking, the Pirate, the Vampire & the Zombie all perform together. I'll never forget it... Cheers from Portland, OR! 🍻😎 Thank you for sporting this reaction vid!!!
I am huge Nightwish fan and this was my introduction to the band. I really like Marco's take on the Phantom. It's they way it should be. The Phantom is a deranged madman, a homicidal maniac. Give it that color is perfect.
Same. Someone linked the video for this song for me a few years back. I really liked it and looked for other Nightwish stuff.Then I discovered Sleeping Sun, then Ghost Love Score, then Shoemaker, then Gethsemane, then... well, you get the idea! Nightwish has been my favourite band ever since!
Smart man not falling into the comparison/which is better trap. I think what happened needed to happen all those years ago to get the music we have from their collection of singers. It sucks that all the backlash occurred that caused some wounds that will always be scars, but from a music standpoint, it brought forth different approaches that are for the better.
Won't compare Floor and Tarja, but everyone forgets about Annette :(
Definitely don't miss out on their work with the 2nd vocalist, Imaginaerum is an amazing album. Highly recommend the live version of "Scaretale" as a reaction.
Annette wasn't fit but she's amazing and she's great in Dark Element. Their albums are even better than Nightwish's latest albums!
I guess Anette isn't as talented vocalist as Floor and Tarja, or perhaps as highly trained vocalist? I am no way an expert and I can only say that Anette is without a doubt better singer than I ever hope to be. For me the songs I have heard her sing, haven't really made an impression to me, that i would listen to them again. Perhaps that is just a preference of style than talent, I wouldn't know.
@@SorbusAucubaria It's a very different style, but it fit the sound of Imaginaerum perfectly
I love your thoughts on the Floor V Tarja discussion. :)
I guess Doug already told that he wants to stay away from that discussion for good reasons. And I fully agree with Doug on that. Both ladies are phenomenal singers ... full stop.
The answer is clearly "Marco".
Just say Elize and walk away.
From a Nightwish fan from when she was 13 (like.. 20 years ago..): Later in the years I learned of a band called After Forever where the leadsinger was Floor Jansen. I always thought, if I could have the perfect band, it would be Nightwish, which Floor Jansen. Now I have that. But the first 3 albums with Tarja. Golden. Love them for ever as they are. Tarja Turunen is the only one who could entice me away with Sleepwalker (as a teenager, my first _ever_ metal song and Nightiwish-song. And it as great.). Also, totally understand the "not going near the discussion", as.. I wouldn't either. They both have their strengths. For me, with this one comment, I'm trying to bring notice to Tarja Turunen as the lead singer for Sleepwalker...
Doug may not be willing to compare the singers, but I will.
Studio: Anette
Live: Floor
Muse: Tarja
All of them are awesome and comparisons aren't automatically an either or.
Tarja is even better in her solo career... My opinion...
Nice you didn't take a side on that "Floor vs. Tarja" discussion. It's pointless. Anette Olzon (the 2nd Nightwish vocalist) was also awesome on her own way. And so is Marko (the bass player/Phantom on this video).
For more Tarja era songs, I found weird the Nightwish army didn't recommend "Nemo", one of their most famous songs. And if you're interested on Anette's singing, "Amaranth" is a cool song.
Tarja- Nightwish The Siren..
"vast improvement"..... Please react to the Nightwish cover of Pink Floyd "High Hopes"....
Nightwish The Siren from the same concert and if you want to try Tarja as a Solo Artist then go for Supremacy live i'll live the links of the songs.
th-cam.com/video/LUy8T_3kieI/w-d-xo.html - The Siren
th-cam.com/video/6qSuCMKF2n4/w-d-xo.html - Supremacy
If you want more Tarja, I highly recommend checking out some recordings from her solo career, particularly the live recording of "Undertaker".
Also, you should check out "Bismarck" by Sabaton-Floor is married to their drummer.
That thought at the end of what a singer adds to a song and why they shouldn't be compared is just beautiful!
In between of Tarja and Floor, there was another singer: Anette. She was very criticized because she doesn't have an operatic voice style like Tarjas (she has her own style and I'm sure she has some vocal training, of course, but the focus of Anette was to sound very different from what Tarja's voice added to the band), and there has always been a very hard and cruel opinion of what Anette added to the band, its a shame.
I'm not sure if you would like to review her or just listen to her for fun, I recommend the song Amaranth or Scaretale, there isn't an official live video with her unfortunately, but you should give her a shot, just for fun
Thank you, big fan!
Doug You need to know about a Brazillian melodic metal band called "Angra" the old band of Kiko Loureiro ( new megadeath guitar player ), it's just amazing!!!!!!
This particular album is a MASTERPIECE !!
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if you love nightwish,
I suggest the rhapsody of fire or Luca Turilli's Rhapsody is like the same think.
the best mix between classic and metal mix.
suggest Of Michael the Archangel and Lucifer's Fall part 1 and 2.
Maybe you should also do "Phatom of the Opera" by Iron Maiden, which is completely different song?
Oh come on, you can say that you prefer Tarja, no one will blame you!!! :p Joking. I have a soft spot for Tarja because I've known the band with her in 2001 but Floor is awesome! And keep in mind that Floor and Tarja are actually friends! More Tarja with NW please: from the live "from wishes to eternity" : "deep silent complete", "the pharaoh sails to Orion", "Swanheart", "Dead boy's poem", "Walking in the air" (yes, the cover). From the live "End of an Era" : "The siren", "sleeping sun", "Wish I had an angel". And with Floor, "shoemaker" obviously but for this one, do some research first. Spoiler alert: it's not about a man who makes shoes!!!!!! lol
First, have some happy news to make sure you are aware of -- Floor and Tarja are great friends, speak often, and as recently as December 9, 2020, Tarja hosted an Instagram "livestream" where she interviewed Floor (see "Instagram Live With Floor Jansen", at th-cam.com/video/rdF1AdCOxBA/w-d-xo.html). Always great to know the two singers themselves get along well (and no doubt share some "singing tips" in the process)!
Tarja's best video, I feel, is "Until My Last Breath", available at th-cam.com/video/G-i4wUTtkZc/w-d-xo.html, currently with about 11 million views. Beautifully staged and shot, the composition is one of her best -- in recent live shows she was using it as the climax to her performance.
Finally, yes I agree with all of the other commenters that you absolutely MUST watch Floor and Henk's "Phantom of the Opera" at th-cam.com/video/plCScjvDOJM/w-d-xo.html. The Beste Zangers series has an advantage over the recordings of many live concert performances, as it was filmed in a TV studio specifically equipped to highlight the vocal mix.
Keep well ...
Wishmaster is the forever Tarja song
But if you saw the misheard lyrics version the lyrics Will never be the same :p
Also Phantom and Nemo and Walking in the Air. All Tarjas.
I'm not a huge fan of that genre of metal in general, but I like that version of this song.
Please, react to "Czesław Niemen - Bema pamięci żałobny rapsod" ;) .
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If only Nightwish had been the Phantom house band...that musical would have been a success! jk. I agree with you -- it would have been more of a *musical* success.
Try Unleash The Archers: Awakening or Cleanse the Bloodlines
BTW - a lot of people have been recommending Phantom of the Opera by Iron Maiden. That is a sublime song that 100% should be covered.
Maybe Doug got confused, I don't know.
Team Tarja here. Have to admit that some what NW have done with Floor is good, but Tarja will always win my vote.
Probably already written, but it was performed at the very last show with Tarja. She was the only member who didn't know she was fired this night. Strange to see knowing it.
About another performance with Tarja and Nightwish, their most iconic song with her is Wishmaster, even if they already release Ghost love score. You will not find it complex, but it will stick in your brain. It is Tarja song and she still sing it without the band.
Beauty and the beast mood.
Of course you don't want to compare the Nightwish vocalist because that would piss off the neo-Nightwish fans. but let's be honest Floor as great as she may be, could not have rendered this song like this. Floor is great in her own way, but she's more of a rock/metal style singer. Tarja is a more classical influenced singer and that is what shaped the original Nightwish and made them unique and special. Sure, they are still a great band, but they aren't that same unique blend they originally were and Tarja was a large part of that. In fact, by tuomas own words, she was the inspiration behind the entire original concept. His initial plan was supposedly to go in a more Folk inspired direction like his Auri project.
Smart man avoiding the Tarja/Floor discussion. I completely agree, they're both incredible.
I think Marco screams “Well, alright!!” at the end.
All rise.
And Arja says "kiitos!" (thank you) as they are at home in Finland.
@@KristiinaBerg Agreed. Sounds like "All rise".
@@Benobot99 its "what a rush"
All rise
I'm not keen on the original production, but it's better than this. It's too over the top. Yeah, the original would benefit from being a little heavier but this is too much.
The woman is good, but the guy is the wrong opposite to her. They are supposed to be 'lovers'. I mean, good effort but it just doesn't work.
LOL "no cell phones". Those were the days. Then again, if they had cell phones at that show, all their screens would probably have cracked when Tarja hit those high notes😁.
Wise man! Music is not a competition and where it is, the awards they give have very little to do with talent.
Next why not Iron Maiden - phantom of the opera with the original singer Paul Dianne???
No need to compare Floor and Tarja... we all know everyone's favorite is Marko!
Tarja has very deep, dark voice. If you want to hear her low notes, you should listen something from her solo career. Can you react her song "Victim of Ritual" live from Woodstock 2016?
Another fantastic Tarja's performance is "Supremacy" from Woodstock 2016
Yesss or Act II that's amazing !!
Another one from End of an Era, Ever dream !
This version made the song more haunting (as I think Webber wanted) my 2nd favourite after this is Antonio Banderas and Sarah version.
Marko’s the best singer Nightwish ever had.
You should really check out awakening or apex by unleash the archers
I recomend Slaying the dreamer with Tarja,check that out!
Please check out the live version of "Ever Dream" with Tarja from the same show. It's completely different to how Floor approached this song.
Thank you! I've always felt like this version with its fire, punch and intensity sounds "more right" than the original or those that follow the original more closely.
Amen, what you said about the singers is straight up right on. They are both fantastic singers and each brings a different and unique tone and take on each song they perform.
Another awesome cover from Nightwish is High Hopes
You should react to Iron Maiden - Phantom of the Opera
Doug...Would you ever consider doing a reaction video for Yngwie Malmsteen’s “Far Beyond The Sun?”