Hi Matt, Thank you for the review. I have a WiiM Amp in my secondary system, paired with my old Monitor Audio Bronze B4 floorstanders. I'm satisfied with the sound I'm getting out of this pairing. Not a hi-end sound by any means, but there's not too many things missing, either. Having an issue with the HDMI loudness level, as some of your commenters here pointed out, too. It seems it is a common problem. All in all, if you know what you've bought and if you don't have some extreme expectations, this amp can be all you need, ever
I really like your concise reviews. Nice to hear about reasonable options. I di try the Wiim amp with a pair of CSS Tori'snd using HDMI and had serious volume issues, lack there of. I went to a Bluesound Powernode Edge and no issues. I also want to compliment your Criton build very nice! I have built every Criton model and now am building their 1TDX with the wave guide tweeter. Just finished the 3TDX and holy crap are they incredible. I sure would like to see you review the 1TDX's you built?! Keep 'em coming and I'll keep watching!
I have some CSS 1TDs, and based on my experience with them, they have proven to be rather inefficient and power hungry speakers. Takes something beyond a low budget class d amp to get the best out of them.
Matt, you are one of the best reviewers on YT, hands down. And let's hope WiiM starts easing its way into the higher end audio market. And so true about Play-Fi! I did not realize they are still around. Oh, how are you liking the Rivo? Do you have it paired up with a better power supply? And I have to suggest picking up a Roon Nucleus One and pairing it with the Rivo. The Nucleus One took the Rivo, and my WiiM Ultra to another level. You would be amazed at what the Ultra and the Nucleus One can do, surprised the heck out of me.
Thanks for the info. I like the way you present. Never had anything with bass management. When you adjust the crossover point, do you also adjust the subs' own frequency knob?
I have a WIIM Amp and recently acquired a Bluesound Node 2i. Decided to do a A/B comparison between the Amp and the Node hooked up to my Rotel A11 Tribute. Driving B&W 603 S1 floors, the Rotel had significantly better power and the speakers opened up. The Amp would be fine for a smaller set up.
Thank you for this comment! It's immensely helpful. Most reviewers only cover these tiny class D chip amps. And I honestly believe that even the cheapest AB amplifier under $400 from a big brand sounds better with more headroom.
Great review, Matt. Ready to pull the trigger on the Amp Pro. Should be perfect in our home gym, driving stand-mounted B&W CDM-1 speakers and an SVS PB10 subwoofer. Subscribed.
With you on this stuff, started with the mini. Then pro Plus and now Ultra. Using a pair of Fosi audio monos… and an old JBL ES sub…sounds pretty good, for the money..👍😊
Hello Matt. That 60 watt power rating seems to indicate a 36 volt power supply. The TPA3255 itself is capable of over 100wpc at 8 ohms, 200 at 4, but that requires a more comprehensive cooling solution (big heatsinks, fans, etc). This strikes me as a nicely conservative design that should last a good few years.
Apple Music subscriber here. I really wanted the Ultra but no Airplay is a deal breaker. I’m using an Arylic S10+ with an SMSL PS200 dac running into a 20yo old Pioneer Elite avr. It kicks so much ass and the combo is still cheaper than the Pro Amp or Ultra.
I am an Apple Music subscriber too. Using a 2nd gen Atv airplay from my IPad. The Atv is connected to SMSL SU1 dac using toslink cable and connected to a Arcam A5 plus amplifier. Sound good.
@@dlimkh1964 I’m using my iPad or my iPhone with the photo adapter (iPhone only) direct connected using USB to my DAC so I can utilize the highest resolution which you can’t get using the Apple TV optical out connected to the DAC.. This had nothing to do with the WiiM, it’s just the way I stream my Apple Music 🎶
Thanks for pointing out the speaker impedance matching issues regarding frequency response when using these low-cost class D amps. Many people who aren't "techies" don't understand what is going on and how critical the right pairing can be to the sonic performance they get. I really see these low-cost devices more as a desktop or small room solution than for playing in a large den or living room. But nothing wrong with that at all. It's just about setting realistic expectations. I'm still thinking of getting a WiiM Ultra streamer though for my living room and pairing it with a good external DAC. The fact that it has USB output opens up using the better clock circuit in the external DAC to "do the driving". Not sure if I've seen any other price comparable streamers offer a USB output. I've not investigated the new offerings from Bluesound.
I favor them for smaller spaces or desktop use as well, the ultra is a bit different and can really be incorporated wherever but that's a different story. Settings expectations really is the key here.
Great video as usual. I was admiring your Record Album rack as shown in the background in this video. Is that something you purchased? Made yourself? Any info appreciated. Thanks!
Something simple i'd like them to add is a coaxial input. Most cd/ dvd/ bluray players (the cheaper ones at least) have (and most only have) this digital output so it would be really useful (at least to me) More power, a better dac section and balanced inputs could also be a part of the next step imo. The ultra should follow a similar path. (better dac, balanced outs and coaxial in). i2s wouldn't hurt either. Hypex might make it too expensive. Maybe partner or make a colaboration with Topping? They have their new line of amps that seem like really good value (La90d, B200 are ab for example). Pa7+ and b100 seem like good options too.
I wouldn't doubt we see some of these upgrades on the next model, not sure if they will go as far as i2s but I wouldn't doubt we see input options and balanced connections. Would be great if they timed this up with an amp upgrade as well.
@@MattCoykendall1 i2s isn't essential but if they keep upgrading and make the upgrades mentioned they'll definitely start creeping into audiophile world. That means audiophile features. 😀
For people on a budget but with really hard to drive speakers (e.g. Magnepan) the Wiim Pro plus combined with a Crown XLS1002 amp (ca. USD 400) might be an affordable solution. 500W on 2 ohms, 200W on 8 ohms, not too shabby for the price.
I have the WiiM Ultra, I absolutely love it and have been very impressed with all the features offered by it for the price point. I know it's just a streamer/DAC and not an amp, but I didn't need that.
@MattCoykendall1 This thing has to be in the running for product of the year. Some of these other manufacturers will need to step up their game to compete with the Ultra's price point.
WiiM Ultra paired with dual V3 monos into RP Klipsch 600 mii with no sub in my sunroom setup, rarely listen to loud, mainly to relax or morning coffee, but perfect.
@@alwayspushing2031Got my Ultra paired with the V3 Monos to. But with the Kef R7s and KC62 sub. Once room correction is used using the Umik-1 mic and REW it's heaven.
I'm really sad abou the lack of airplay, and that's a feature I use a lot, especially on something like this. I have a primary stereo, and a primary headphone setup and this doesn't belong in those spaces, but for other rooms where I just need something in the background, or aren't doing dedicated listening, this seems amazing. But I'm in Apple's ecosystem, and don't currently have the time to try and switch, so lack of support there is a deal killer sadly. I hope they can bring it back, even if it's extra.
But could you still use your iPhone and connect via Bluetooth to the WiiM Amp Pro? Bluetooth can generally give you similar or even better fidelity than the current implementation of Airplay which is lossy and converts everything to 320 Kbps .AAC at best.
@@rosswarren436 I find that bluetooth is kind of grabby and kind of a pain when I need to manage multiple sources or switch between multiple targets. With Airplay, I can just select the target from the source that I want and just go. So it's great for wireless earbuds that I use with one device, but not for an inhome device I'll use sometimes, and with different devices.
Question: you also reviewed the wiim ultra, if you compare its sound quality to the cambridge audio. Is it similar? And to the denon avr3400 if used as a streamer via heos? I currently have a denon 3800h with dirac live and the pre outs feed a good quality integrated amp for 2 channel stereo (so in that set up its a pre amp and streamer). Wondering if the wiim ultra direct on the integratrd amp will be an upgrade vs the denon dirac/heos route.
Reviewers should really pay more attention to system matching when reviewing these kinds of products, so people know what to expect. Just looking at sensitivity isn't enough. Big floor standers often have higher sensitivity but to get the low end going they still need current to move the cones, smaller bookshelves with 90+ sensitivity should all be ok, but down to 87 DB is possible depending on the specific speaker. I wouldn't go over a thousand for a set, for pairing though. For medium to large rooms a sub would have to be part of the equation.
That's fair, I just wanted to lightly touch on the sensitivity because people sometimes see 120 watts and think thats a green light to run any speaker and as we know it's really not. A sub is almost always a plus in my opinion as well.
Matt try out the Marantz Model M1 on your Buchardt S400 Mk2 speakers and you will be amazed how they come to life. I have this combination at it’s absolutely amazing. 😊
I wish I still had the s400 mk2’s, those were on loan from Buchardt, fantastic speaker in my opinion. I do hear a lot of good things about the M1, I need to reach out to them.
Hmmmm….maybe I better buy another Wiim Mini before they upgrade it and take away AirPlay? Makes no sense to me but probably some kind of riff between the two companies.
Hi Matt, nice job as usual, my only complaint about my WiiM amp is a slight lack of power, now I need an excuse to get the pro model, maybe I need a bathroom system???
It should work just fine. Just don't expect your speakers to go very loud. I wouldn't even bother. There are so many used AB amps on the market for cheap. The Cambridge Audio A1 is an underrated gem for $100 or less. Buy refurbished with a warranty. That leaves you with $300 to buy a Wiim Ultra. You'll get a better experience. Trust me.
@@wickedlammy Amplifier specifications are confusing as heck. There are a thousand ways to measure output. Class D amps have overblown numbers. Class A and Class AB have conservative numbers. Any 40W AB amp should crush your typical 200W class D chip amp from Wiim, Fosi, Ayima or SMSL.
Hi! Can you please review something like a Cambridge Audio CXA35 or a bargain used AB amplifier? I am very sure that it's a better investment in the long run. Just add a Wiim streamer and you're done.
So, this is 2 WiiM products in a row that no longer support Airplay? Don't like the direction that is going. I'll have to stick with earlier WiiM products I guess.
Not sure I can justify one of these for mu guest bedroom studio monitors. At $80, how much better is the cheapest than my echo aux out? For $30 more you can get a qudelux 5k with parametric eq and ldac...the next model is up against a topping d50iii.... I wish they made a "pure" line that just focuses on a stereo out with screen and dropped another $20-30. I'd be swapping out my small echoes in an instant and getting one with a screen for my bedroom and my home theater
I’m curious how the pro and regular amp sound compared to the Sonos amp that I currently have. I’ve been tempted to switch over to Wiim for their room correction and EQ. Does anyone here have any experience comparing the two amps?
It would have been super cool if they made this with DUAL 3255 chips running in PBTL. The power output would remain the same because it’s already running in BTL so going to PBTL just means Parallel bridge mode instead of Bridge mode. The 3255 chip is actually a 4 channel chip so all these amps we are seeing that use it bring it down to 2 channels but it can be run as mono in PBTL. You don’t get more voltage but you get better current delivery at low impedances. You can see this with the mono versions from Fosi and Ayima. That configuration in this amp would be extra impressive.
@MattCoykendall1 Serious problem? Maybe, maybe not. With the right expectations, maybe an opportunity to enjoy music on the cheap. The platform will get better, but won’t get to be a premium sound product, probably ever. Still, love the WiiM platform. Sitting on two Mini’s until things mature a bit. Love your channel my friend, keep it going.
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Hi Matt,
Thank you for the review.
I have a WiiM Amp in my secondary system, paired with my old Monitor Audio Bronze B4 floorstanders. I'm satisfied with the sound I'm getting out of this pairing. Not a hi-end sound by any means, but there's not too many things missing, either.
Having an issue with the HDMI loudness level, as some of your commenters here pointed out, too. It seems it is a common problem.
All in all, if you know what you've bought and if you don't have some extreme expectations, this amp can be all you need, ever
I really like your concise reviews. Nice to hear about reasonable options. I di try the Wiim amp with a pair of CSS Tori'snd using HDMI and had serious volume issues, lack there of. I went to a Bluesound Powernode Edge and no issues. I also want to compliment your Criton build very nice! I have built every Criton model and now am building their 1TDX with the wave guide tweeter. Just finished the 3TDX and holy crap are they incredible. I sure would like to see you review the 1TDX's you built?! Keep 'em coming and I'll keep watching!
Appreciate the kind words! That wave guide CSS build is really tempting... enjoy the builds. I will put out a review on the 1TDX I built as well.
I have some CSS 1TDs, and based on my experience with them, they have proven to be rather inefficient and power hungry speakers. Takes something beyond a low budget class d amp to get the best out of them.
@@toddt5562 agreed, my primary system uses a pair of Rogue M180 monos
Matt, you are one of the best reviewers on YT, hands down. And let's hope WiiM starts easing its way into the higher end audio market. And so true about Play-Fi! I did not realize they are still around. Oh, how are you liking the Rivo? Do you have it paired up with a better power supply? And I have to suggest picking up a Roon Nucleus One and pairing it with the Rivo. The Nucleus One took the Rivo, and my WiiM Ultra to another level. You would be amazed at what the Ultra and the Nucleus One can do, surprised the heck out of me.
Thanks for the info. I like the way you present. Never had anything with bass management. When you adjust the crossover point, do you also adjust the subs' own frequency knob?
I have a WIIM Amp and recently acquired a Bluesound Node 2i. Decided to do a A/B comparison between the Amp and the Node hooked up to my Rotel A11 Tribute. Driving B&W 603 S1 floors, the Rotel had significantly better power and the speakers opened up. The Amp would be fine for a smaller set up.
Replace filter board DC5v 😊
Thank you for this comment! It's immensely helpful. Most reviewers only cover these tiny class D chip amps. And I honestly believe that even the cheapest AB amplifier under $400 from a big brand sounds better with more headroom.
Great review, Matt.
Ready to pull the trigger on the Amp Pro. Should be perfect in our home gym, driving stand-mounted B&W CDM-1 speakers and an SVS PB10 subwoofer.
Subscribed.
With you on this stuff, started with the mini. Then pro Plus and now Ultra. Using a pair of Fosi audio monos… and an old JBL ES sub…sounds pretty good, for the money..👍😊
Thanks for sharing! Sounds like you’re having fun with it too!
Hello Matt.
That 60 watt power rating seems to indicate a 36 volt power supply. The TPA3255 itself is capable of over 100wpc at 8 ohms, 200 at 4, but that requires a more comprehensive cooling solution (big heatsinks, fans, etc). This strikes me as a nicely conservative design that should last a good few years.
Time will certainly let tell right, I can’t say I have heard much on the front of failures on these.
Hi Matt. Well done here. I have a Wiim Pro Plus coming. Pairing that into one of my vintage systems. Take care.
I am a big fan of mixing with vintage, so many good pieces of good gear out there that go to waste.
Apple Music subscriber here. I really wanted the Ultra but no Airplay is a deal breaker. I’m using an Arylic S10+ with an SMSL PS200 dac running into a 20yo old Pioneer Elite avr. It kicks so much ass and the combo is still cheaper than the Pro Amp or Ultra.
I am an Apple Music subscriber too. Using a 2nd gen Atv airplay from my IPad. The Atv is connected to SMSL SU1 dac using toslink cable and connected to a Arcam A5 plus amplifier. Sound good.
@@dlimkh1964
I’m using my iPad or my iPhone with the photo adapter (iPhone only) direct connected using USB to my DAC so I can utilize the highest resolution which you can’t get using the Apple TV optical out connected to the DAC.. This had nothing to do with the WiiM, it’s just the way I stream my Apple Music 🎶
Thanks for pointing out the speaker impedance matching issues regarding frequency response when using these low-cost class D amps. Many people who aren't "techies" don't understand what is going on and how critical the right pairing can be to the sonic performance they get. I really see these low-cost devices more as a desktop or small room solution than for playing in a large den or living room. But nothing wrong with that at all. It's just about setting realistic expectations. I'm still thinking of getting a WiiM Ultra streamer though for my living room and pairing it with a good external DAC. The fact that it has USB output opens up using the better clock circuit in the external DAC to "do the driving". Not sure if I've seen any other price comparable streamers offer a USB output. I've not investigated the new offerings from Bluesound.
I favor them for smaller spaces or desktop use as well, the ultra is a bit different and can really be incorporated wherever but that's a different story. Settings expectations really is the key here.
your room looks really nice!! what are those speakers ps?
So question does it sound warmer or noticeably better ? Is it worth the upgrade if you already have a Wiim amp ?
Your room looks great Matt! 👏🏼
Thanks! Getting a closer, a few upgrades on the way.
Great video as usual. I was admiring your Record Album rack as shown in the background in this video. Is that something you purchased? Made yourself? Any info appreciated. Thanks!
Something simple i'd like them to add is a coaxial input. Most cd/ dvd/ bluray players (the cheaper ones at least) have (and most only have) this digital output so it would be really useful (at least to me) More power, a better dac section and balanced inputs could also be a part of the next step imo. The ultra should follow a similar path. (better dac, balanced outs and coaxial in). i2s wouldn't hurt either. Hypex might make it too expensive. Maybe partner or make a colaboration with Topping? They have their new line of amps that seem like really good value (La90d, B200 are ab for example). Pa7+ and b100 seem like good options too.
I wouldn't doubt we see some of these upgrades on the next model, not sure if they will go as far as i2s but I wouldn't doubt we see input options and balanced connections. Would be great if they timed this up with an amp upgrade as well.
@@MattCoykendall1 i2s isn't essential but if they keep upgrading and make the upgrades mentioned they'll definitely start creeping into audiophile world. That means audiophile features. 😀
For people on a budget but with really hard to drive speakers (e.g. Magnepan) the Wiim Pro plus combined with a Crown XLS1002 amp (ca. USD 400) might be an affordable solution. 500W on 2 ohms, 200W on 8 ohms, not too shabby for the price.
Crown is shitty equipment , magnepan need quality amps
I have the WiiM Ultra, I absolutely love it and have been very impressed with all the features offered by it for the price point. I know it's just a streamer/DAC and not an amp, but I didn't need that.
Yeah spot on, I really like the ultra as well.
@MattCoykendall1 This thing has to be in the running for product of the year. Some of these other manufacturers will need to step up their game to compete with the Ultra's price point.
WiiM Ultra paired with dual V3 monos into RP Klipsch 600 mii with no sub in my sunroom setup, rarely listen to loud, mainly to relax or morning coffee, but perfect.
@alwayspushing2031 It's a very versatile product, and I still don't think another product comes close to it at $320.
@@alwayspushing2031Got my Ultra paired with the V3 Monos to. But with the Kef R7s and KC62 sub. Once room correction is used using the Umik-1 mic and REW it's heaven.
You don't say it directly, but it's important. You can connect UMIK-1 directly to your phone and calibrate the room in the wiim app.
I'm really sad abou the lack of airplay, and that's a feature I use a lot, especially on something like this. I have a primary stereo, and a primary headphone setup and this doesn't belong in those spaces, but for other rooms where I just need something in the background, or aren't doing dedicated listening, this seems amazing. But I'm in Apple's ecosystem, and don't currently have the time to try and switch, so lack of support there is a deal killer sadly. I hope they can bring it back, even if it's extra.
I get it, really no clear indication if it will return or not yet.
But could you still use your iPhone and connect via Bluetooth to the WiiM Amp Pro? Bluetooth can generally give you similar or even better fidelity than the current implementation of Airplay which is lossy and converts everything to 320 Kbps .AAC at best.
WiiM mini here for AirPlay. Works great, though not bit-perfect. Still sounds great through it's optical out, into my external DAC.
@@rosswarren436 I find that bluetooth is kind of grabby and kind of a pain when I need to manage multiple sources or switch between multiple targets. With Airplay, I can just select the target from the source that I want and just go. So it's great for wireless earbuds that I use with one device, but not for an inhome device I'll use sometimes, and with different devices.
@@andyreichert499 got you on that. I had similar issues with Bluetooth until I got rid of a Logitech audio device.
Invaluable information. My thanks for your efforts. Cheers!
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No pineapples on Wiim please !!! LOL
Another fantastic review and commentary, Matt!
I can’t lie, usually I am the supreme type of person all the meats and veggies but occasionally a good Hawaiian hits the spot haha
@@MattCoykendall1
If you haven't already, you'll need to try Roundtable Pizza's "Maui Zaui" with extra Polynesian sauce on the side. ;)
An excellently presented and informative review, well done.
Thank you kindly!
Thanks for this Matt. It helps greatly in buying decision. Much appreciated. 👍🏼🎶😎
You bet
The real trouble comes if/when the wiim amp will deliver 200watts or more at 4ohm which is technically supported by the very same chip amp
USB out to a good DAC and very hard to beat, not even talking about the features but sound quality wise
I know there is a big price difference, but can this amp be compared with a lyngdorf tdai 1120?
I bought my Wiim Mini mostly because of your review. Wiim is making value Hi Fi great.
Hey Mike!
Love my ultra and I enjoy watching your reviews keep up the good work 👍
Awesome review Matt, extremely thorough. Thank you very much for another great informative review….
You bet!
Question: you also reviewed the wiim ultra, if you compare its sound quality to the cambridge audio. Is it similar? And to the denon avr3400 if used as a streamer via heos? I currently have a denon 3800h with dirac live and the pre outs feed a good quality integrated amp for 2 channel stereo (so in that set up its a pre amp and streamer). Wondering if the wiim ultra direct on the integratrd amp will be an upgrade vs the denon dirac/heos route.
Is the Android room correction now available in the Wiim Ultra too?
Sure is
How would these work drive say an electrostatic speaker like Quads ? These don’t require much power (tubes are great) but they are “difficult” ?
I have the pro that hooked up to my Bose T4S mixer + 2 Bose L1 Pro16 speakers. Is it worth to upgrade to this ultra?
Reviewers should really pay more attention to system matching when reviewing these kinds of products, so people know what to expect. Just looking at sensitivity isn't enough. Big floor standers often have higher sensitivity but to get the low end going they still need current to move the cones, smaller bookshelves with 90+ sensitivity should all be ok, but down to 87 DB is possible depending on the specific speaker. I wouldn't go over a thousand for a set, for pairing though. For medium to large rooms a sub would have to be part of the equation.
That's fair, I just wanted to lightly touch on the sensitivity because people sometimes see 120 watts and think thats a green light to run any speaker and as we know it's really not. A sub is almost always a plus in my opinion as well.
Matt try out the Marantz Model M1 on your Buchardt S400 Mk2 speakers and you will be amazed how they come to life. I have this combination at it’s absolutely amazing. 😊
I wish I still had the s400 mk2’s, those were on loan from Buchardt, fantastic speaker in my opinion. I do hear a lot of good things about the M1, I need to reach out to them.
What are the requirements for streaming my own ripped CDs?
Hmmmm….maybe I better buy another Wiim Mini before they upgrade it and take away AirPlay? Makes no sense to me but probably some kind of riff between the two companies.
Definitely hyped or even better purifi amp is in order !
That would be something
I just picked up two Fosi monoblocks on prime day. Could I run the amp into them, or is there a different product that’s the better match?
You need the Wiim Pro+ or Wiim Ultra...
Seconding what Steven 2809 said. I've an ultra connected to two Fosi ZA3s and it sounds very nice indeed.
Hi Matt, nice job as usual, my only complaint about my WiiM amp is a slight lack of power, now I need an excuse to get the pro model, maybe I need a bathroom system???
Yeah, me too. I'm running out of storage space. With the room correction feature the product upgrades are running at warp speed...
wiim amp and amp pro put out the same power
Hi Matt, would the amp pro pair well with Q Acoustic concept 30’s?
It should work just fine. Just don't expect your speakers to go very loud. I wouldn't even bother. There are so many used AB amps on the market for cheap. The Cambridge Audio A1 is an underrated gem for $100 or less. Buy refurbished with a warranty. That leaves you with $300 to buy a Wiim Ultra. You'll get a better experience. Trust me.
@ don’t they only push out 30 watts?
@@wickedlammy Amplifier specifications are confusing as heck. There are a thousand ways to measure output. Class D amps have overblown numbers. Class A and Class AB have conservative numbers. Any 40W AB amp should crush your typical 200W class D chip amp from Wiim, Fosi, Ayima or SMSL.
@ I’m after something for my av setup with a sub out. Will also be looking at the Marantz m1 and Powernode
@@wickedlammy The Marantz M1 is more than powerful enough. But I personally prefer the sound of class AB. It's a safe choice however
Matt I’m confused. Will I be able to stream to wiim amp pro via Spotify connect ( without airplay ) ?
Spotify connect won’t depend on airplay in this case
I'll maybe wait for the WiiM Amp Pro+ or the WiiM Amp Ultra. 😂😂
Im a total newb. I bought the wiim ultra and kef q150 speakers. Not knowing i need an amp :(? Can i a get a wiim amp pro and use it with those 2?
Easy on the acronyms Matt!
Hi! Can you please review something like a Cambridge Audio CXA35 or a bargain used AB amplifier? I am very sure that it's a better investment in the long run. Just add a Wiim streamer and you're done.
Can confirm, not all pizza is good.
No bass management when using usb out to external DAC.
Really hoping that’s a firmware update away, they seem to be on top of things like this in reasonable amounts of time.
@@MattCoykendall1 I hope so too.
They’re working on it - check out the WiiM ultra roadmap
@@sneakyds nice to see that it’s in the wiim amp roadmap as well. Thanks for sharing.
So, this is 2 WiiM products in a row that no longer support Airplay? Don't like the direction that is going. I'll have to stick with earlier WiiM products I guess.
I feel the same way!
Blame Apple....
Probably.
I do have a feeling they would be adding it if they were able but hard to say what is going on behind the scenes.
Who knows? I will buy another on the next Amazon Prime Day around the holidays for about $75, not to chance it.
Not sure I can justify one of these for mu guest bedroom studio monitors. At $80, how much better is the cheapest than my echo aux out? For $30 more you can get a qudelux 5k with parametric eq and ldac...the next model is up against a topping d50iii....
I wish they made a "pure" line that just focuses on a stereo out with screen and dropped another $20-30. I'd be swapping out my small echoes in an instant and getting one with a screen for my bedroom and my home theater
I’m curious how the pro and regular amp sound compared to the Sonos amp that I currently have. I’ve been tempted to switch over to Wiim for their room correction and EQ. Does anyone here have any experience comparing the two amps?
Hi, I own the WiiM pro and working fine. But I can't make used of the Preset functions. Any one know how to solve? Much appreciate.
Sea food does not belong on pizza!
Ok fine I kind of agree
I would buy one if they added a PC USB connection.
I like BLT but will settle for PBJ. A lot of acronyms flying around an otherwise excellent review.
Thanks and noted!
No USB B input,its insane they didn't add this,ill keep my Ifi Signature One.
It would have been super cool if they made this with DUAL 3255 chips running in PBTL. The power output would remain the same because it’s already running in BTL so going to PBTL just means Parallel bridge mode instead of Bridge mode. The 3255 chip is actually a 4 channel chip so all these amps we are seeing that use it bring it down to 2 channels but it can be run as mono in PBTL. You don’t get more voltage but you get better current delivery at low impedances. You can see this with the mono versions from Fosi and Ayima.
That configuration in this amp would be extra impressive.
Yes it would. As you say... same power, but less load dependency.
big let down not enough inputs
Nice!
Indeed
thnx
Except they took away Airplay… sigh…
Dude, do you say what PFFB means? Communicate brother! 😢
i've had my wiim amp for about 3 months. i love it. my only gripe is i just wish it was a bit louder.
Agreed, depending on the pairing it could use a bit more.
BS Node N130 cheap on eBay 😮
Is this item a new device model of the Wiim Amp?
Yes it is, more of a version 2 than a full refresh
@MattCoykendall1 Serious problem? Maybe, maybe not. With the right expectations, maybe an opportunity to enjoy music on the cheap. The platform will get better, but won’t get to be a premium sound product, probably ever. Still, love the WiiM platform. Sitting on two Mini’s until things mature a bit. Love your channel my friend, keep it going.
Sometimes the titles have to push the limits a bit for clicks, lots of competition out there! One this is for certain, the price is right.
@@MattCoykendall1 Your titles are a lot more modest than some others. (not naming names 🙃)