I remember when I first re-watched South Park in my 20s and realized how clever of a show it is. Suddenly I understood all the jokes that didn't make any sense when I watched them as a kid.
I remember this feeling when I re-watch south park older episodes. The newest ones actually tie into eachother now. Which makes south park more are interesting. You have to actually pay attention to details to expect whats gonna happen next. Family guy is expecting at same time, its unexpectedly funny sometimes. But family guy is whole bunch punchlines with off topic jokes. Which makes south park more interesting. Plus easier to watch. Tbh watching to much family guy makes feel dumber.
As a kid I definitely liked Family Guy more. As an adult, I can’t stand to watch Family Guy post like 2005, but South Park still lives up and even gets better with time.
@@Schrodinger_ S6-9? South Park's so called "golden age" lasted well past season 9. Even just Season 10 alone was South Park at its peak. Make Love not Warcraft, Cartoon Wars double episode, Go God Go double episode, Manbearpig, Miss Teacher Bangs a Boy (niiiccceee). Tell me you havent seen all of the South Park without telling me you havent seen all of the South Park.
@@BL00DYME55 ok man, it's my opinion. The episodes you listed were good, but IMO they're nowhere near as good as the likes of Casa Bonita, Awesome-O, Goobacks, Christian Rock Hard, etc. Also I think the Warcraft one is highly overrated. It's just my opinion, you're free to yours too.
I think there should be a contest. Seth makes his own south park episode, Matt and Trey make their own family guy episode. I bet both would be hella funny
Both would be shit. I prefer south park's style of writing, but south park would exaggerate on the cutaway jokes way more than family guy does. Could turn it into a discord server. And family guy's take on south park would just be conversations. Could turn it on a podcast
no. Because family guy can’t tell a story and south park is a show that actually has a story. Only the south park-made family guy episode will be funny because they are actually funny.
Another huge issue with the cutaway gags in Family Guy is that if you don't understand the reference, the joke doesn't land. In South Park, even if you don't understand the reference, it's still funny as it plays of the context of the story. Since Family Guy's cutaways are completely random and almost never have anything to do with the story, they are entirely reliant on you understanding the reference.
I have that issue with family guy quite often as they use a lot of references in their jokes and I don't know a lot of the cultural landscape they are referring to.
The best/worst example of this is the cutaway where they reference an old jam commercial. Peter literally comes out and explains the reference, which is funny but many gags would need that bc the reference is so outdated.
In South Part, the ref to Marlon Brando in The Island of Dr Moreau was funny on its own even if you don't know the ref. If you know it, it's a fun touch.
I think the funniest thing that could ever happen to family guy is being divided into two compilations of absolutely no cut aways versus only cut aways and see what is longer
the reason I love south park. is because it's a time machine you can Pick a seasons episode and have a real feel of a point of time in American society year by year.
It becomes even more incredible when you learn that in order to maintain timely, when they start each season they give the team only a week to completely make and air each episode. And even crazier, they've only missed ONE deadline. And that was because of a power outage.
@@timm5362 Not to sound dismissive, but... it's South Park. Not exactly a high bar to clear. And they're paid quite a lot to animate on a show that's not really graphically intensive. I'm sure that incentive alone causes them to constantly work diligently. I'd be more surprised if they didn't work as fast as that.
Right, this show is easily bingeable as TH-cam clips, but I rarely watch a full episode and NEVER twice. South Park really wins with its rewatchability but family guy does a really good job at that more chaotic writing.
My favorite thing about South Park is when I remember a single part, I’m flooded with a dozen other funny things all related to that single part. Entire episodes are extremely memorable and impactful
It wasn't until seeing this video that I realized why I didn't like the Family Guy. I have tried watching it a number of times and the jokes never land for me. They seem cringe or forced or pedestrian. Just inserted and you feel like you are supposed to laugh but I don't like being compelled to laugh on queue. You cannot argue with their success and many people like them but the show just doesn't resonate with me. I enjoyed American Dad though it isn't half as good as south park.
Family Guy always seemed to me to have the rapid-fire, "throw it at the wall, see what sticks" approach, in that if one joke fails there really isn't time to dwell on it before the next one. For South Park, it's all or nothing: every episode (past a certain season anyway) has something to say, and there's always the risk that the audience will HATE what is being expressed. I still watch it, despite its problems, because I dunno there's just something mesmerizing about the level of detail being put into the satire. Love it or hate it, there's a lot of effort on display and I find that oddly fascinating. I've never liked Family Guy, but ironically I love American Dad, which is very different show. But to each his own.
I think one thing worth mentioning is South Parks plot nearly always centers around some recent social issue or people in real life. It’s relevancy and satire on events that most of us may have opinions on makes it hit a little deeper than family guys often entirely made up plots.
@@martyshwaartz971 As someone who did a history degree, I enjoy South Park a lot more because episodes essentially become sources on historical events. Although, at the same time, those episodes don't pack the punch of the ones I watch contemporaneously.
@@davespiller684exactly, they don’t age as well. I’m enjoying the newer episodes but if I decide to rewatch them in a few years when the topics are irrelevant I’ll just be like whatever
Except it goes in insanely stupid directions that then lose most of the connection with the current events/recent social issues it strives to parody. I understand some people love this, but to say it’s not a niche taste is just simply false. Family Guy is more mainstream, easier to jump in and out of, they will always be more commercially successful than South Park. It’s not a big deal, who cares? Certainly not the Family Guy writing staff. The snowflakes at south park however?? I’m not so sure 😂.
@@kaicenatbackupaccc True for some, but I think most of what they make has a timeless aspect to it because they are usually expressing some kind of conventional wisdom
Family guy was good for time and lots of us know this. But as an old Family Guy fan, it’s funny how accurate the South Park parody eventually became lol
If you ask me now, I get much more entertainment value out of early Family Guy than early South Park. The former was basically a neverending dart shooting contest of jokes and gags. Not all of it lands but it doesn't matter, you're going to get a laugh every two or three minutes. The latter feels like it relies on the gimmick of watching colourful characters doing adult things, and the character chemistry was basic at best. That said, I do prefer South Park as a whole. I began to fall out of Family Guy when I reached the first seasons Seth MacFarlane wasn't properly involved with, it seems like every episode has a few drawn-out gags that lose their luster very quickly, and it just got boring as a result. I'm still watching South Park today, with the Streaming Wars specials containing some of the best writing I've witnessed in adult animation yet. Whoever came up with the idea of tying the breast implants subplot to the main plot of fighting a drought deserves an award, that is cohesive storytelling at its finest.
Matt and Trey were dead on balls accurate with their description of family guy. I never thought it was a bad show, but it is definitely a bit disjointed and random at times. Simply the fact that it's so Random is more of what made me laugh rather than the jokes themselves.
Trey was just annoyed that he tears his hair out every 7 days trying to wrap up a cohesive and entertaining story when family guy can just say "Why don't we just have death show up"
@@Pretzil43 for a while when I was younger I used to record the beginning and end family guy episodes just to be like “how tf did this come from that?” There is no overarching storyline like garrson becoming president. Their formula should’ve been changed years ago but yeah fast food. It’s nice to eat when you’re lazy but you always know there’s better options
@@mrOGbobbyjohnsonI respect your opinion... but i disagree with you. i still think south park is better than s1-4 of family guy, even though i do like the first 4 seasons of family guy like u.
Both can be enjoyed. Southpark is generally sharper and more biting satire. Slapstick is more family guy's style. Trey and Matt are right that most cutaways can happen in any episode.
Also it will make the show funny for years. Meaning in thirty years are people going to even understand family guys cutaway jokes. The references will be old. In South Park. The episode is the reference.
Both are hilarious in their own right. Family guy feels like the tv equivalent of reading the Sunday morning comics to me. Grew up with it, will always love it.
Family Guy sought more cheap laughs but South Park really went all in on making a crazy ridiculous storyline be funny throughout an episode and that is why I have been addicted to watching it since I was in elementary school.
cheap laughs? So there's a problem with getting more bang for your buck? No doubt SP has deeper and admittedly more often better story telling but at the end of the day a joke is a joke and a laugh is a laugh. IF FG's jokes just aren't that funny to you, I get it but to say it's "cheap laughs" because they focus more on comedy than story telling is kind of crazy to me.
I fell like something people don’t talk about is how consistently characterized the characters are in South Park like the jokes make more sense because you can believe that they would do those things (like Randy fighting dads at his kids games)
or Cartman buying an amusement park just so he can keep everyone else out. Family Guy could probably get away with such an episode using Peter, Stewie or Chris but there's plenty of episodes that show it wouldn't be entirely characteristic of them. Cartman is a selfish asshole which has basically never been contradicted in any episode.
In south park the characters have changed a lot too, is not as linear as it may seem, but in the latest seasons they have been doing it in a much consistent way... I actually like both series but they are different types of comedy
Even in standup comedy, I really appreciate the sets where the jokes are tied to the theme. I love it when the comedian takes you down a side story and then at the end it all ties together. It’s like there’s an extra layer to each of the side jokes once you can see the complete mosaic…I think this makes you appreciate all the individual pieces more.
Depends on the comedian. Both can make me laugh, but tying jokes to a story is more satisfying. It's like reading a book, the reader gets more out of a book because their imagination is making the pictures in their head. A one liner comedian is just telling jokes. A story teller is weaving their life into yours and sharing personal experiences, and making them more relatable.
I agree, I’ve watched a lot of stand up comedy over the years, but if you asked me which one stands out I would say the one time I listened 2 hours for the guy to end with how he banged the girl from the first few jokes ending with never give up on your dreams. I wish I could remember what it was called.
the type of jokes that go like "let me tell you how i met your mother,dont worry itll all pay off in the end... and thats how I met your mother, thank you evryone for coming out..."
2:47 not a single one of those examples made me laugh and he used them to tell how effective Family Guy's cutaways can be, if that's their best defense then that's crazy!
But honestly as someone who never really got south park, (I should probably try and watch it again), none of his examples of jokes where funny from south park in this video to me either. Idk any of the characters or how they interact so without the context or full story it just didn’t really land, I think family guy is the same, just watching the gags seperate to the story none of them were funny. Like not knowing who ‘randy’ is, the drunk driver scene wasn’t funny to me but it seems like the people who are familiar with the character enjoyed the scene. So I think shows cant be judged from analysis videos that only show specific parts of them.
South Park's ability to turn entire episodes into metaphors for real world issues in ways that have clear parallels when you look for them, but are obscured with absurd humor is just straight up a grade above. Maybe more. I appreciate that their jokes are "completely diegetic" or... "in the story/world", and aren't just complete throw away scenes referenced once and then all consequences for which are disregarded. I cannot imagine how difficult it is to craft a coherent story like that while keeping it entertaining, engaging, and on topic.
I tend to like South Park more because they usually have their finger on the pulse of what's happening in the world. On particularly divisive topics, they have their characters in conflict on different sides of the issue.
Thats why i like family guy a lot more. I have depression, a stressful life and stuggles. I dont want to be reminded of all the bad shit that happens in the world all the time. Sometimes i just want to laugh without overthinking everything and i am pretty sure everyone with a different goal than that will perfer sp.
There it is!! THAT is the true genius of South Park. These dudes write, produce and animate each show the same week it is shown. They've been in the pressure cooker for almost 30 years and, in my opinion, have never produced a dud. Sure, not all episodes are as good as the others but what show is?!? South Park is on a different level as far as sophistication and raw story telling talent and they are inarguably hilarious. You've had the most relevant comment I've seen, thus far.
Both shows are great and both are more clever than what people give them credit for. However I have a slight preference for Family guy, because I’m a sucker for observational humour, a lot of people think it’s just crude, dark and silly (Same as what they think of South park) but it actually contains a lot of pretty clever and observant takes on everything from every day life to Historical events.
Family Guy has genuinely great and original type of humor, which is inappropriate sometimes, but most of the value is the unexpected and in some way unique factor, theres not another show with same humor as FG. South park on the other hand, surely has better written story, but most of the value is in everybody swearing, kids yelling at their parents, disgustingly portraied gays and humoring nazis... it's trying to be that extra cool and tough guy, who dares to do anything... but it's stale. those "inappropriate" themes are still the same after more than 15 years. And talk to me about "using only the best of their ideas" in SP, when theres a literal sausage and a poop as characters.
@@androidtalking "Family Guy has generally great and original type of humor" You must not be talking about the 10 cutaway gags Family Guy averages per episode. I literally did the math. The Family Guy writers didn't even come up with that format. It's existed berore. "Most of the value is in the unexpected and in some way unique factor" Dude... Family Guy jokes are not unexpected. Most of them are: "Boy, this is crazier than the time I" or "Gee, that's even more insane than that time (insert random celebrity name) did (insert wacky scenario)". If by "unexpected", you meant "formulaic" then hey, you win. "There's not another show with the same humor as FG" Yh, thank God! If every show had 10 cutaway gags per episode, I'd blow my brains out. There might be a good reason why writers don't want to make their show seem like FG. "South Park on the other hand, surely has better written story, but most of the value is in everybody swearing, kids yelling at their parents, disgustingly portrayed gays and humoring Nazis..." Are you saying FG doesn't have those things?? Wtf? The show where Hitler makes regular appearances? Where Chris and Meg curse all the time? The show with a gay "child enjoyer" as a character?? (I'd use the actual word but the comment might get deleted if I didn't.)
I think a big part of this too is the fact that these other shows hate family guy but they don’t hate American dad. American dad is so different from family guy and deserves more recognition and it sucks that it gets thrown in with family guy and people miss out on a really good adult animated show
@@christophertaylor9100 lol I feel bad that this is your opinion because you’ve clearly never watched too much American dad. Completely different show the animation styles are the same and so are the voices but other than that they’re written by 2 groups of completely separate writers and really aren’t that similar at all. The writing for the characters alone in American dad is enough for me to think it’s better than family guy
@@PumpkinPie__ Indeed, Family Guy is driven by non-sequiturs, and American Dad is more character driven. The writing and comedy style are quite different
I think Futurama is a show that deserves way more praise than it gets. The show is so great but it was initially promoted as "From the creators of The Simpson's". I think people were starting to get tired of The Simpsons at that point and South Park and Family Guy were stealing the spotlight, so people just figured Futurama was a Simpson's spin-off, which is definitely was NOT. TBH, I never really gave the show a chance until a few years ago and now it is one of my favorites.
and i find both styles are good in thier own right so really personal preference you could say either is funnier I like em both and don't hold a strong opinion of one over the other
One of my fave celebrity roast moments was Mike Tyson, he got up and was reading from an old Greek poem, then he said he didn’t want Seth being the only one stealing from Homer. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Politicianist true, but I think south park changed what they thought was wrong in a funny way by changing Tolkien's name from Token. Also especially recently they've cut out the genuinely offensive jokes I think.
@@watercolor1040 what the fuck ? Token name doesn't come from Tolkien at all. His name is "Token Black" because in a movie, the token black is just the black character that's here just to have one black character
@@JohnDouille I know lol you misunderstood me, they changed it FROM Token to Tolkien and now his name is Tolkien. The only one who didn't realize was stan who tells him and Tolkien is like "why would my parents name me something that means the only black person?" It was a way to change his name while still being funny, now all the captions are Tolkien.
Or instead of us simply analyzing how 'storytelling styles' differ between the two, we look at the actual talent they offer. The main point of it all. South Park ceaselessly strings together predictable jokes of episodes that are "shocking and fresh", that no one actually ever laughs at or thinks are fresh, while tons of people laugh at Family Guy's clever and subtle dynamics that are always different. Like when Brian follows Stewie hitching a ride in a semi, a flare gun fires spiraling into a massive one-minute crash, Brian sees Stewie get out and swerves to save his life, asks if he's okay what happened, and Stewie responds to finish one of the funniest and subtly crafted jokes in comedy history. South Park does what's expected to be done, and Family Guy does what no one else has the work and vision to perfect. Most of these videos are of guys pointing at all the unfunny aspects of both shows, cognitively missing the actual comedy and enormous craft of writing right in front of them with the latter, and vaguely trying to summarize a more complex issue. In essence, unfunny people prefer South Park because it doesn't tackle humor at as high of a standard, focusing on other TV aspects, however predictable and culturally repetitive. It's always fun to see another 'common opinion' on how much South Park is a masterpiece. One day we'll get a real analysis video.
@@isleohagger5455 I find family guy to be entertaining, but not overall funny. South Park is both. Of course this is my opinion. I don't see how preferring SP would make someone unfunny. No correlation.
@@isleohagger5455 You sound like the Rick And Morty "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty" copypasta meme. It's really not that deep and the fact of the matter is that SP does a twisted comedic critique of social issues while Family Guy provides more care-free and isolated jokes that don't really make sense as a whole, as said in the video. I don't necessarily think any of them is 'better' than the other, it's just different approach to comedy/satire.
I am fan of random / absurd humour. So the family guy cutaways is the thing that I love most about it. I just want light hearted humour while I'm having my food. And honestly saying I tried to watch South park season 1 and I stopped.... I kinda forced myself to watch the first full season because everyone said it's good but I just couldn't. On the other hand family guy just got me hooked. I also like this fact that family guy has different types of comedy styles in individual given episode rather than simple satire irony jokes. I just love their randomness and combination of multiple different types of jokes. Other comedy stuff that I love are - broklynn 99 (max jokes/min), big bang theory, dictator (fav) and borat movie by that great actor, key and peele (their ideas are so unique and random), arrested development (very clever writing and highly underrated) and Pete holmes badman series (hahahah), and lastly with utmost respect the "Monty Python"
Well, because Family Guy was good for its first seasons till 2005, but on the other hand, South Park got better as the show went on. So season 1 of South Park was the beginning, and it was trying to figure itself but as the show went on it became bigger like season 5 onwards. Trust me give it a try
its like they don't understand that just because there's a traditional way of doing things it doesn't mean that everything has to be that way. Family guy has found its way of doing things and its great, sometimes it doesn't land but for the most part its great , i really enjoy it.
Just put it this way, I grew up watching both of these shows as a kid. Family guy got boring as I grew older while as South Park stayed funny and gets even more funnier
I grew up watching both as well, I like more South Park episodes, than Family Guy episodes. But, at least I get some good laughs in almost every Family Guy episode, but when a “bad” episode of South Park comes out, I realize, I never wanna see that episode again, when Family Guy has a “bad” episode, I’m like, “Well, the story sucked, but at least it had funny parts in it, I’ll prolly watch it again.” But I’d say about 85-90% of South Park episodes are really good, imo, where as Family Guy is prolly closer to 70-75% good episodes. So I do prefer South Park to Family Guy, but the fact about the King of the Hill writers hating Family Guy, makes no sense to me at all. King of the Hill is different than all other adult cartoons I’ve ever liked, it isn’t anything like The Simpsons, South Park, Family Guy, or Futurama, or even American Dad. My personal ratings on animated adult cartoons, is. 1.) South Park 2.) Family Guy, King of the Hill, and Futurama (all tied at 2nd) 3.) Aqua Teen Hunger Force 4.) Beavis and Butt-Head (original not the remake) 5.) The Simpsons (charity spot, because I loved playing the arcade game, and the show was a trailblazer.) (But, I literally have never watched an episode of the Simpsons that made me do anything more than just faintly chuckle) I’m currently 36 and will turn 37 in July of 2023. Love South Park, and really really really like, KotH, FamGuy, and Futurama. Wish I could go back to 2003-2007 when both Family Guy and South were almost always hilarious every single episode. King of the Hill and Futurama got replaced by, imo, dumbass shows like Rick and Morty, The Boondocks, American Dad, and The Cleveland Show. Sorry to all the Rick and Morty, Boondocks, and American Dad fans, just never liked any of those shows at all personally.
The fact the Family Guy didn't even attempt to defend or fire back pretty much settled it immediately. Not to mention Seth literally called it "funny and accurate" when asked about it by Rolling Stone later
@@obeseclownlivesmatter8306 "Pick one of the two options I just made up." I wouldn't have thought the cartoon responding to the other cartoon was any more immature than either cartoon normally is. 🙄
The door cutaway was even along the same lines as an earlier cutaway in which Peter pressed a button that said "do not push" and got karate kicked by a random guy. Both of those could have been used interchangeably
@@o-kiku3939 yeah really, truth. It like a drop down of situation followed by a drop down of whats there follow by a drop down of what happens and how. Really bruh
I think Matt and Trey’s point was, in their show, the jokes feel like extensions to the plot, and in Family guy, they’re just filler additions with not much worth that sometimes relate to the plot but barely even effect it.
I heard a rumor thar it was just to troll Fox. He gets pissed when they ask him to censor jokes so he forces them to waste money on Conway Twitty (who they don't own the rights to) The joke is he's literally making them burn money out of spite.
@William Butcher That’s mostly true but keep in mind that Seth is a student of classic American entertainment and seemingly random musical interludes like that are practically a staple of that time. So its a bit jarring if you’re unfamiliar with it - and it probably was pretty fucking annoying too lmao
@@Chineseisntalanguageapparently It's funny for those of us of a certain age, that grew up watching Conway Twitty on Hee Haw. Like he said, if it was just a few seconds it would be funnier in a absurd way
They make all of their episodes in 6 days. That’s a very non-traditional writing style that I’m sure a lot of traditional sitcom writers didn’t respect. What is a “respectable” style of writing anyway?
@@dqarqeer8603 making it in 6 days isn’t a writing style, it’s a production style. The jokes they write are inherent to the story, which is pretty common, it’s so common that when they sh*t on family guy, the Simpson writing staff sent them flowers and King of the Hill writers said “they’re doing gods work”, so it seems a lot of writers don’t respect it.
I find the Conway twitty cutaways so funny now BECAUSE they were so frustrating and a huge waste of time. It’s funny seeing them and seeing how mad I got at it
@@xionelectra They kinda regret doing those jokes and acknowledged how there were simply lazy padding. In a recent season's episode Peter gets a message from heaven saying something like "Conway Twitty has a message for you, write a fucking joke"
I think not even Family Guy fans will deny that South Park‘s writing is superior. However this does not mean that you can not enjoy Family Guy and it‘s jokes. It gave us some very memorable moments (e.g my favorite scene when Stewie and Brian try to act as Santa Claus)
South parks jokes never landed for me its weird. They try way too hard for shock value and crude, similar to family guy yet it doesn't land for me. Idk, Idrc about either shows enough to argue lmao
I have so much respect for trey parker and matt stones character. Nobody is off limits or everybody is off limits. Behind the surface crudeness is always an intelligent take on a subject. I only ever saw a couple episodes of the boondocks but that also seemed to be a show like that. Far smarter than it seems on surface. Im seeing the book of mormon for the first time next month, very exited.
I do like that way of thinking, no one is off limits but it can also be a bad thing, you can make people mad. Think both are right about this sometimes u have to think about what the consequences are of a joke.
@@wwerules000most people who can't take a joke are most likely thin skinned or just cry babies though. South park is definetly successful because it's smarter than the average modern person. Most people who don't like South park have a stick up their ass 🤷 and arent very free thinkers.
What I also feel is important, is that South Park shows you all sides of the argument. They always conclude it, but it also seems like the conclusion was pulled from both sides. Most other shows just show you exactly where they stand on an issue. Even in the cartoon wars they had people on family guys side.
My favorite example is how they turned the console wars into game of thrones/lotr with kids on both sides then switching side etc by far south park at its best
i think that's what i generally like more about south park, like, despite it's surrealist type of humor, it actually feels much more grounded in reality, showing people that think differently from each other and the conflicts that arise because of it, and how, sometimes, those conflicts are meaningless, and sometimes they're not. they generally just have a good grasp of human nature, and i can respect that.
Family Guy sometimes hits me with a good laugh out of the blue, breaking up the monotony of multiple failed jokes. On the flip side, South Park is just packed with cleverness in every line, and their jokes stick with me for years after I watch an episode.
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Very well put! That's exactly what I think but couldn't put in words!
I dunno why people keep saying this but it's the exact opposite: South park has good situational setups, but not great dialog or standalone jokes. "Cleverness in every line"? What are you talking about? Their dialog is blunt, functional, and generally just matches what we already expected a character to say. What line of theirs is memorable as an *inherently* funny line? I can't think of a single one. (Except maybe from the Sarah Jessica Parker episode.)
@vigilante8374 NO! * Spray bottle to the face 😉 -Kenny always dies -Cartman fed Scott Tillerman his parents -Sadam is gay for the Devil -Butters is a pimp -The boys sending a whale to the moon -Water Park filled with piss -"Why every time a Chinese man builds a Chineae wall the damn Mongolians tear it down." -Randy fighting all the sports dads -Barbra Streisand as Godzilla -All of season 19 which was the first time they created a story arc Dude I can keep going and going and going.
@@James_Renz I was specifically referring to what you said: "cleverness in every line". Which means specifically dialog, and that was all that I was talking about. You didn't list a single git bit of clever dialog in response. Dialog that is merely referring to a visual gag isn't "clever" dialog (particularly if it's a gag that's been done 500+ times.) I already said up front that their situational setups can be pretty good and original. But their follow-through with the dialog is usually blunt and not terribly clever.
I think Family Guy is simply a show you watch to get some laughs without wanting to put too much thought into the story. They start off with a story line, then halfway through they completely deviate to a different topic, so the first half of the episode is meaningless. South Park is also a funny show, but provides a good narrative that goes along with the jokes it tells. The story line for that show sticks with it throughout the entire episode.
i generally agree, though South Park has more often crossed the line with gross humor, not that Family Guy hasn't, but South Park showed a live sex change operation, which wasn't at all funny, and i don't believe Family Guy would ever go so low, just as South Park would never insult us with Conway Twitty, so its complicated
Cutaways are not hard to write. Let me demonstrate. "Oh God Lois, this is worse than that time I went to an arcade with Michael J. Fox." -Cut away to Peter and Michael J. Fox inside an arcade, next to a claw machine trying to grab a plushie. -MJF is maneuvering the claw and it is of course taking him way too long because of his Parkinson's. This stretches the scene for an entire minute, with Peter looking on in silence. -MJF finally activates the claw. It goes down but doesn't grab any plushie. -Peter says "Can I try now?" -End cutaway (This took me 3 and a half minutes to come up with and write. On my phone while in bed.)
As soon as that South Park episode came out, I immediately thought, yeah that's definitely true about Family Guy, I mean they can be funny and all sometimes, but South Park is more of a consistent storyline, and to me, makes it more consistently funny and meaningful.
I know in Family Guy,you don't care about the episodes but you go to You Tube videos to see the funniest Family Guy clips whereas South Park,you need to watch the whole episodes in which it has lessons in the end kind of like Jerry Springer's Final Thought.
The problem with family guy jokes is that they don't have any consequences. It makes writing the joke easier, but also less funny. I.e if Peter does something stupid and destroys half of his house, and in the next scene, the house is fine again. It would be a lot more funny if bad decisions had lasting consequences. That way, every subsequent scene would be a reminder of Peters stupidity.
@@akobozaske Kenny doesnt die in SouthPark anymore...and hasnt died for a while if i remember correctly. And, when he did, he stayed dead for the rest of the episode.
South Park is so good at its structure and writing style you begin to see their episodes as events. Then you can actually be excited for their specials,which are like movie length episodes. Then there is the South Park films, "Bigger, Longer and Uncut" and ,"Team America" which are pretty much legendary. Family guy is so random that over time you care about certain bits more than episodes. Family guy is perfect for tik tok but South Park is just perfect.
@@tomweeks7040 its still on top but family guy was like made for the medium. Tik Tok made me wanna watch Family Guy and then when i got to the episode I swear I couldn't make it through lol
I don't even remember many jokes from Family guy tbf. It seems like they write for an average mjddle aged American, who thinks Peter is funny and definitely needs that family dynamic that looks like every other sitcom. The baby and the dog were actually good characters, also Peter's friends like Quagmire were funny sometimes, though the type of jokes they make are always the same, but Peter and his family are very boring, just like every other sitcom. I always got a strong impression they even have Peter for average Americans who watch only very mainstream shows to have someone to associate with. And they have short jokes that aren't really funny and mostly namedrop celebrities because their audience has a short attention span and don't understand too obscure humor. I did watch Family guy in the past, but that was before I was aware of the choices there are and mostly because of the baby and the dog.
There's lots of room for improvement in South Park as well. A lot of the jokes are just gross-ness, especially in the old episodes, and a lot of it is super specific to current events, especially the newer episodes.
I've watched every episode of the past decade of South Park, they keep hitting it out of the park. By contrast, I haven't even watched Family Guy since around seasons 11 & 12 (but have kept up with American Dad) so if that tells you how these shows compare.... Great video!
John Cleese once said something like "Don't just put jokes in a story but make the story itself funny" and I think South Park follows that formula well.
Yeah, one should be chosen. If you're going to bother writing a story at all anything unrelated is just padding. Saw dust in your salami if you will. Sure you have more to eat, but the extra volume still isn't food. More isn't better when it's just the crap swept off the floor. The claim it's more difficult to write the cutaways is blatant nonsense. They're scraps from the office trash bin not great literary works. Funny? Yes, but cheap in the context they're used.
@@MrPortajohn I wouldn't say the majority of family guy jokes are even mildly amusing, it's just implied that they're funny so that their loyal followers blindly laugh cause they're told its funny, hence why they fill so much time with irrelevant cut aways. Its not even just lazy writing, it's just quantity over quality and substance. Seth macfarlane pumping as many episodes and different shows out that are all similar in structure (which is the one stolen from the simpsons) really emphasises this.
@@Quiyum Woah. He was one of the standout members of Monty Python. How do you not know of Monty Python? They sort of invented modern surreal comedy. Edit: Im bad with names too. Ive actually seen the guy live though. He's funny af.
I like South Park alot, but I love the zero f***s given, subversively dark approach Family Guy sometimes takes. There's nothing wrong with having a heart, but I just like and respect a good savage edge.
I think being able to tell a cohesive story while also being consistently funny is a much bigger skill, and I think that leads to a more enjoyable show.
There never has been and probably never will be a show like South Park. Unmatched in how they take the most absurd concepts, things that would be a 30-second cutaway in Family Guy, and make them feature-length episodes with compelling characters and moments and fleshed-out stories. While also being hilarious. Truly unreal.
whether you like gag comedy or not, I honestly believe it is no where NEAR as hard to write as comedy that follows a linear path and reflect back on a previous stated line, joke or action. Gags aren't necessarily badly written. They can be funny, and even, at rare times, incredibly clever, but that is often because they somehow refer back to previous established aspects of something. Like, one of the most memorable gags I remember from family is the "You guys are all stupid! They will be looking for army guys!" and I think that is hilarious because it is specifically Peter that is saying that, and he is already well established as being an absolute dumbass. Had a more serious character like Joe made that joke I don't think it would have landed, but the fact we know Peter is an absolute idiot, but the logic behind his action ALMOST makes sense is what makes it work. The same can be seen in comedy shows. I remember one very famous comedian here making a joke about someone getting his sweater stuck to a garbage truck. It was a joke in on itself, but it was mostly just a visual gag about how how people should respect the job, because some morons might get themselves hurt if not careful. It wasn't unfunny, but nothing to write home about...until he later on in the show referred back to it with "I nearly got hit by a garbage truck! Well, not by the garbage truck, by some moron hanging off the side of it by his sweater!" and that got a way bigger laugh out of me and my friends. It was unexpected, but his seeming visual and silly gag actually ended up having an impact on the story he was later telling. I would not have remembered either of those gags had they just been thrown out at random, but because they ended up getting intertwined together they made for a way better joke overall.
In regards to A and B stories I think it's one of South Parks greatest strengths, they sometimes use the a story to portray something that is not acceptable by society and then they use the b story as something incredibly similar that is accepted by society, usually pointing out the hypocrisy of people's beliefs
I remember the episode when the KFC is banned from small towns and opens a drug store that sell weed in South Park, then Randy gets cancer just to smoke and Cartman deals with addiction and become part of traffic of KFC
I like how you brought out the American Dad example to show that Seth can keep the comedy going while staying on topic of the theme. That's really important tbh. It brings home the fact that we're comparing shows..not necessarily writers.
To be honest, while I think that South Park was better written than Family Guy, I think in many episodes where Family Guy tries to seriously say something and get a point across, it shows that McFarlane is a more sensitive and principles writer, so he actually has something to say while South Park often remains stuck in its centrist nihilism. Like compare Quagmires Dad, an episode that deals with actually an interesting question when it comes to trans people, Quagmire having to come to terms with his dad who was his role model coming out as trans and the implications of it and after a honest conversation where he listens to his no female dads perspective, comes to the conclusion that she is still the person he looked up to and that he wants her to be happy. Compare that to South Park whenever they touch the subject which most of the time results in cheap shots, especially considering how passionate they had been in their early years about gay rights. And I think the fact that Seth actually has convitions really helped out with American Dad, as it allowed for Stan to have episodes where he undergoes a permanent personal progression.
I think this is why Family Guy is actually so funny on those out of context Tiktok clips. The cutaways themselves might be funny or relatable when viewed in a vacuum. Because they rarely have a solid connection to the actual plot of the episode, when viewed as part of the episode, they usually feel like a hindrance to plot progression.
Why is the plot such a focus for some people's criticism? Do you watch Family guy in the same way you're watching fuckin breaking bad? Just laugh and have fun, their intention isn't to throw you into a deep gripping story.
That wasn't the contention, observation is, explaining a joke is not the same. Like you observing a car crash, versus explaining the physics as to why the cars crashed. Acknowledging something out of context doesn't mean it was explained. Pointing out a lack of correlation isn't explaining, UNLESS it was literally a situation where you required outside knowledge of the person place or thing being referenced, otherwise WITHOUT explaining, just experiencing IN CONTEXT doesn't require an explanation, just pointing out the variables WITHOUT its history or an explanation.
@@steveperson5686 okay… but a car crash is not art. comedy is art, so it is subjective, but there are also widely accepted rules. the video is explaining that some people do like the cutaway scenes, but many don’t and many don’t get it. therefore, he’s explaining it. he wouldn’t need to explain it if it made sense from the beginning.
I think Peter fighting the chicken is a special category of aside. The first was definitely random, but now its much more of an established fact of the show that there's a chicken man out there, and its an established fact of Peter's character that they gotta fight when they cross paths
@@alexgarcia3610 I don't actually want that much relevant or relatable in my dumb cartoons. I'd rather watch something with a more serious tone and premise for relevant and relatable. I do think, however, the Chicken Man bit is actually pretty funny. Its a solid example of a manifest contradiction between its undeniably goofy premise compared to the (relatively) grim depiction of the violence itself.
@@InvictusByz I actually like the chicken. It's so random but you get used to it after some episodes. Family guy doesn't make any sense and doesn't need to, the only thing it needs to do is entertain
@@InvictusByz watch the new episode of southpark. i find the Prince of Canada and his wife wanting privacy while calling attention to themselves while doing so is a funnier example of manifest contradiction while also staying relevant with current events. Family guy is just low-brow man.
@@alexgarcia3610 South Park is also low-brow, they just string it together more tightly. As I said though. I do NOT want relevant with current events in my dumb cartoons, I have serious shows written by much smarter writers for modern commentary. And I can't agree that a non-internet example of the Streisand effect is actually a better manifest contradiction.
@@slothstudiosfacundobenitez9749 i used to watch it when i was younger for the shock factor, but now that im older i just watch it because it's entertaining
@@slothstudiosfacundobenitez9749 I love dark humour, so I do tend to like both at times, but South Park is more fun for me. It's a bit harsher as well lol
My favorite joke of self awareness on Family Guy was when Peter was hanging out with a group of women and realised they were talking shit behind his back. He set up a cutaway, it ends up being almost 2 minutes long and the first dialogue after it was: "Lois! those women are horrible!" "Oh my god! what did they say?" "I can't remember, it was a very long cutaway...but they are mean!"
The decline in quality for Family Guy for later seasons has far more to do with a change in writing staff than it has to do with the cutaway gags. Seth largely abandoned the writing team for Family Guy and most of the other good writers left. Meanwhile Matt and Trey are still the lead writers for South Park, and they have instilled their values into the rest of the current South Park writing staff.
Later seasons? It has always been a terribly bad written show. Even today's terrible Simpsons episodes have a way higher standard that the shit show that Family guy has always been.
@@joseluki That's not true at all. Has it declined? Most definitely. Show me a series that's been on 20+ years that hasn't. But FG, despite it's flaws (which this video has done a very good job of pointing out), has been a consistently funny show. Just not to the level of South Park or American Dad. There is also a lot more competition now than before (Rick and Morty, Little Demon, Digman!, etc.) so when the newer episodes are compared with fresh shows, the decline appears more obvious.
The thing is, the first few seasons of Family Guy weren’t just jokes without any substance. There were some really good episodes with well written stories where the characters weren’t just assholes for the sake of funny. I definitely miss the old Family Guy, it was way better than what we have now.
The reason most tv series shows die miserable deaths is becaue after a season or two they run out of relevance. The world outpaces them. They can't keep up. This is the fault of the writers of course. That group of elites who are fixed in their opinons and cannot change.
god yes,specially when they try to put...memes...in the episodes...i get episodes get dated but you automaticly make those jokes WAY to dated,and they do it constantly now wich is just insulting @@Varnaj42
I like the opposite. For me that make family guy so different then all other shows and its creative to come up with such jokes that does not make sense to the previous. It is easy to link the dots but to think out of the box is extremely difficult. some may say its lazy not creative but its only show that has every done such things so how a unique masterpiece is same like others and lazy.
The cutaway gag has been funny. The original knee injury scene was amazing for how unexpected it was. The problem comes with reusing this over and over again. Once you expect subversion, it's not subversion and the gag loses its impact over time.
We STILL do that joke, my girlfriend and I. Also, when Lois forgot Point Break, that literally happened to me like a year before the episode. Sand movie. Family Guy had some great cutaway jokes, really funny, but SP is just an unstoppable juggernaut of comedy genius. I think, for family guy to have kept the original hilarity that it had early on, they'd have to have Seth McFarlane directly involved in every single episode, just like Stone and Parker. They surround themselves with writers who they find funny, they get our humor, as I've said before, they're the KINGS of reading the room. They know what is funny to themselves, and to us. After Seth left FG in the hands of everyone else,they couldn't replicate his humor. They tried, the bombarded us with cutaway gags (there is great video about the amount of cutaways and the declining humor of FG, here on TH-cam) and didn't truly understand what made the fans laugh. They still have their moments, but it's because we know and love the characters. A new show, doing the exact stories and jokes, in place of FG, likely wouldn't get a second season, while a new show, doing the exact jokes of SP, would likely do well, if it wasn't targeted for cancelation by a mob of offended idiots.
@@Chris-br6xg maybe, but the knee thing was funny. It might be a lazy way to fill time but, if someone is naturally funny and has comic timing, even a lazy joke can be hilarious. I mean, look at "The Jerk" one of my favorite comedies of all time. Half of the plot devices they use to progress the story are lazy contrivances that wouldn't work at all if they were telling a real story. Lazy writing isn't necessarily bad writing, especially in comedy. Besides, sometimes less is more. They could have taken time to fill that with a long, thought out cutaway, and I'd bet that it would be forgotten, like so many others. The knee endures because it's stupid, lazy, and super funny.
I was die hard South Park for ages but I recently started watching Family Guy from the start and I gotta say it's actually a lot better than a lot of people give it credit for. South Park always tackles the biggest topics and the most taboo subject matters, and they usually succeed but sometimes it can be catastrophic (never forget manbearpig.). Family Guy's good because you can just switch off your brain, forget about everything and have a laugh. South Park is still the better and more rewatchable show overall just because it has better writing but Family Guy is still a good show. In my opinion it is actually a lot more consistent in it's quality, everyone seems to forget that there is a sizeable chunk of mediocre or even bad South Park episodes that absolutely no-one talks about. The difference being that when South Park gets it right it really, really gets it right. Family Guy is, or at least was (I haven't seen the newest seasons), more committed to fun than plot and impact, and I can respect that.
@@blaynestaleypro Not really, a show got to have some character development and storytelling, only putting jokes randomly do escape the plot is in my opinion lazy writing. If a show don't have any of this, than why remember the show itself?
I think, ultimately, it comes down to this: Shoving irrelevant "pop-up" jokes into your story results in a problem: What happens when the joke isn't funny? Well, you get pulled out. The attention called by a bad joke to itself is far greater when the joke isn't related to the immediate plot. In South Park, if a joke doesn't land, you may not even notice, because it fits with the actions of the characters in the story being told to you. In Family Guy, you feel it. A bad joke lingers in your mind because it draws so much attention to itself by popping up so suddenly and randomly. At least in South Park, if a joke isn't funny, you aren't lingering on it because the context of the joke is relevant to the plot of the story.
But the reverse issue is also true. If one Family Guy joke doesn't land, it doesn't matter as much because the next ones will be unrelated. If you don't find the core concept of a South Park episode funny, the whole episode won't be. There's merits and pitfalls of both approaches.
@@garrisonwhaley-sharp7676 I agree with this. Family Guy has so many jokes that if one completely falls for me the next one is already there and usually makes me laugh. Sometimes all South Park has is one joke and it isn't funny and it goes on and on and on because the story isn't that great if it hinges on a certain thing or joke.
yes EXACTLY! i feel like SP tosses a lot of stuff at you and it's fine to pick and choose what's funny. but in FG the jokes are in your face and bad ones just linger hard, or make you wait through them SP feels a lot more natural, and that you have a variety of things to take amusement from.
Parker and Stone clearly WORK at their craft harder. As in, they challenge themselves more, and that's probably their personality. It does remind me of earlier Simpsons, where the writers would spend hours honing in on a very short sequence of the show, to ensure that the jokes landed, and worked with themselves, to create a sequence of humorous events. McFarlane is clearly influenced by the Zucker, Abrahams, Zucker writing team, where the absurdity would sometimes be integrated into the story, but sometimes just random. Take the movie Airplane, and Ted's cutaways about Elaine. Yes, they were relevant to the story, as in giving us backstory to the relationship, but so many of the jokes IN those cutaways had nothing at all to do with the story, and instead were sight gags, or just humorous wordplay. Or the Police Squad show, where again the jokes would sometimes be integrated into the story, or sometimes just pure absurdist humor. For me, Airplane and Police Squad (the show, not so much the movie) are brilliantly funny, even when it's randomness. Seth McFarlane is really, really influenced by that humor, and I think he's had moments of approaching that level. The thing is that he had to make it work for 20+ episodes over 20+ seasons, whereas the Airplane writing team, unfortunately, couldn't sustain that level of humor. So to give McFarlane some credit, he's really giving life to a formula that doesn't have 'that' long of a life expectancy. With Parker and Stone, they don't have that kind of style, and they've really created their own brand of humor, which is groundbreaking. I think the South Park jokes resonate more, because they do end up being more insightful. Their entire take on Kanye West is STLL being frequently talked about, as is their take on Scientology, Mormonism, Censorship, Steroids, I mean, they really tackle so many topics, and do it almost flawlessly. Even if you disagree with their opinion, you have to admire their effort into making it poignant and humorous. Both great for different reasons, and I obviously prefer South Park (by quite a bit), but do like Family Guy.
Well said. South Park is not afraid to take on controversial topics and whilst a lot of its humour is very topical, as you've pointed out, the political debates they insert into their storylines is oftentimes *still* relevant, many years later.
@@davidthedeaf Yeah, it's really similar to that kind of humor. It's all very disconnected, as South Park points out. In Airplane, you have the story, which was just taken from another movie, Zero Hour!. Then the jokes are kind of around that plot, but not really IN the plot. I've been watching some earlier South Park episodes, and you can see the effort to make the jokes multilayered. Any given scene in South Park, you'll be laughing at multiple things happening on the screen. I watched the High School Musical episode, and it's like 5 hours of humor squeezed into 22 minutes.
I usually prefer when there’s just one story going on, so I will watch South Park more, but one of my favorite family guy episodes is “and then there where fewer” it’s one story, and It doesn’t get distracted from that main story
Storytelling is storytelling and Comedy is Comedy. With these two shows it really comes down to what you value more. Do you want intelligent stories that are tightly comedic, or limitless goofy comedy with a loose story? It just comes down to a viewers preference.
This hits the nail on the head for me. They are two different shoes, for two different styles, and with two different functions. I enjoy both and if I get bored with one, I will just go to the other.
As a fan of south park over family guy, I think matt and trey’s criticism also says a lot about themselves. I think their criticism is valid for criticising bad story writing, but not necessarily bad comedy writing. And I think it’s obvious that South Park has been becoming increasingly more story driven at the expense of fewer comedic beats - though whether the comedy hits harder as a result is something that can be debated.
And your exactly right. Comedy is in the eye of the beholder. While SP is technically a better show, it's longevity is shorter. I say this in the terms of how many times can you watch the same season of SP. If I want a message great, but after the message is received then it's time to move on. They both have two very different comedy styles and should be treated as such. I personally love both, but if I'm looking for a quick laugh I will turn on family guy first.
I love this comment. South Park is random, with farrrrrrrrr more continuity between jokes and main story points. However, I do believe the past few seasons/specials have been more pop culture focused, rather than concepts. Explaining Stan seeing everything turning to shit as he gets older will be easier to explain to a teenager 30 years from now as opposed to the streaming wars special.
South Park got worse over time because they started extending story lines. Imagine if Asspen was an entire season, etc. I love them to death, but the single-story bangers that aren't based on the news are by far their best work.
I think it’s also important to note that Seth Mcfarlene had stepped away from Family Guy as a writer for quite some time. He’s the creator and principal voice actor, but hasn’t contributed in the writing room for many seasons. (He’s even alluded to his own dissatisfaction with the direction the show has taken)
He stepped away cause he was filming movies and had other projects he wanted to work on. He pretty much handed the show over to Fox at that point and let the writers have full control
I love every season of SouthPark, but one of their issues with jokes I've noticed is repeatedly "Beating the dead horse". This trope is itself referenced in the episode involving Jared from Subways Aids. Basically, pretty much every episode of SouthPark has one central joke that is repeated throughout. Jared's Aids, The Police Chief having sex with clients while undercover as a prostitute, Kyles's dad cheesing, etc. This main joke of the episode is played at least 3 times an episode with slight variation. Sometimes the jokes are the same, sometimes it involves different characters, or it will subvert the joke or even take the joke to it's extreme. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, and I started to really notice this trend around Southparks later seasons where there was some continuity in the story that kind of made the dead horse beating of the jokes not really work sometimes.
Trey parkers voice performance is what sold me on south park. Cartman and randy are just too good imo. Then his singing... just awesome. The amount of overall VAs and the 6-days-to-air is what make this show the best for me. Nothing gets reworked... there just isn't time for that. And that gave us plenty of episodes that probably would've never aired if they were made in a bigger timeframe. It's just south park, that's why i love it. ^^
I want a whole episode of just them showing voice recording outtakes lol it seriously looks like it would have its fun moments working with Matt and Trey
@@Chicken_Wing91 According to them they hate second takes so maybe there aren't even that many outtakes... but i still agree. Seeing them laugh and pointing out how stupid it is puts me to the floor every time :D
@@chrisakaschulbus4903 there could be outtakes of them fumbling their lines. Their hatred of retakes is talking about the “once more, with feeling!” Kind of retakes.
Is “roasting people” really the pinnacle of comedy? South Park doesn’t even tell jokes. They just do outlandish stuff and assume the viewer will find it funny because of how absurd the situation is. As bad as family guy is, they at least have a structure to their jokes.
Seth claiming his style is more difficult is ridiculous. You can literally have writers who's sole job is to just come up with their 5-10 second cutaway gags and you can have 100's of them saved and pick and choose from them for each show.
In my opinion I wouldnt want to compare those shows. They’re both unique and have different styles. BUT they also both work in their own way. I love family guy‘s randomness but also love south park's storytelling. Both can be complicated in the creation progress
That's why Trey and Matt are wrong. Their argument isn't "Both shows are fine, ours is just better" which may be true, it's; "family guy is terrible", which is incredibly stupid
The second he starts listing similarities and showing the examples side by side, it sealed it for me. The South Park equivalents are just packed with context, backstory and layered social commentary. Family guy is just fast food, and the most IN YOUR FACE commentary I've ever seen. Never noticed it until now.
I’m at the point of the video of those comparisons. I never knew why I didn’t like family guy…this showed me. I hate South Park because I think it’s crass. I hate Family guy because it’s like listening to a conversation of high school children. Sometimes there are theme but veers of into giggles and an inside joke that only two of them understand.
@@Juicetheeunuch Irony is, Family Guy is typical of afult comedy though. Tim and Erjc and Eric Andre is like Family Guy in sense of futaway gags and the demographic who likes this are ironically older than high school.
South Park is one of the best shows to ever exist. Family Guy was my favorite show for a long time but South Park has always been better. Brilliant writing and storytelling combined with the wildest jokes they can possibly get away with involving the most controversial subject at whatever time the episode was made pretty much.
Another thing I love about South Park is that nobody is safe. Everyone (myself included) has watched an episode and secretly felt a little attacked. 🤣 😅
Kinda the problem I had as a European watching Family Guy was all the American references. I didnt know most of the stuff they were referencing. Meanwhile South Park doesn't rely on that. If you understand the reference, it makes it funnier like Tom Brady's poop being like the spice from Dune.
Yeah it’s not even American(born and raised on the west coast) it’s more east coast/New England references which unless you lived in that area you won’t get,hell even I don’t get it sometimes
Yep I'm Australian so a lot of the jokes don't land with me, where as south Parks jokes seem timeless and there's just so many little things that even if I don't get a reference, there's other jokes packed in that I can laugh at
ive been watching both shows since i was a teenager. Im 37 now. i grew out of family guy in my 20s but i still watch south park to this day because the show grew up too.
same here, i still think some of the jokes and gags Family Guy had were funny, i never thinking about rewatching an episode from it (still watch American Dad sometimes though) but South Park i can pretty much always go back to and still laugh at something
@@frodofraggins Why would they try to write for a show that their better than? Family Guy got these grown writers in their feelings just by existing. Seth could care less about South Park, Simpsons, and King Of The Hill. These shows on the other hand are obsesed with Family Guy.
@@frodofraggins And yet, its so successful, they got you bitching about it, got TH-camrs makin 30+ minute videos dissecting it, and got other popular cartoon tv shows making the series the center of attention in their own universe. For something that's supposedly trash, you seem to be obsessed with it. lol
Seth always said family guy was never meant to be anything more than a show that makes you laugh as much as possible in 30 minutes. I like both South Park and family guy but I don’t see why some people think one should not exist or is less legitimate than the other. I think they both have earned their place
The difference is family guy is like a bunch of one liners thrown together as part of a story to be funny and south park is an entire story that's funny
I think people are forgetting that family guy was making those numbers, if it sells it sells, And you can't tell me south park is the more quote-un-quote "intelligent" show with as many poop jokes they've got, south park can be a silly show too
@@PalomasMusic666 I think you haven't actually watched south park if you think they make a bunch of poop jokes. They literally make a parody of people with you exact comic for many of the first few seasons
There's something that should be focused on more in all of this and that is Seth McFarlane's own role in Family Guy. Whether or not you believe that Seth is funny, there is no doubt that he is EXTREMELY self-aware. This comes through in several ways - some jokes breaking the fourth wall to criticize the show/its audience or even using the joke itself to criticize its own construction (such as the Conway Twitty Jokes) - but most interestingly through the character Brian. Brian, being the only character of the many that Seth voices that uses Seth's natural speaking voice, is an ironic depiction of the writer in his own world. In Season 8, Seth eventually brings the self-hatred of his character to the forefront of the show through the episode on 'Wish it, Want it, Do it' where Brian, a writer, is humiliated when he creates a shitty yet very successful work. This is an obvious self-commentary on Family Guy's own criticisms. What's more, this character trait of Brian's is never resolved - Seth never goes "well actually I am a good writer!" or tries to redeem Brian in any way. Brian becomes a figurehead for all of Seth's own self-criticisms/awareness. So where does he go from there? Well, by the 11th season as Seth wishes to divorce himself from Family Guy and Fox, he makes the choice to kill Brian i.e. kill himself in his own show. It turns out that it was 'coincidentally' Seth's plan to hang up Family Guy after Brian's death, but Fox had other plans and forced Family Guy to keep being milked (just as they did with the Simpsons). Today, Seth plays very little part in Family Guy other than the iconic voices, and the edge, wit and genuine humor that characterized much of the first four seasons is long gone as Seth disappears. It cannot be understated just how much of an impact Seth had on what make Family Guy Family Guy.
@@papasmurf9205 for me, when Brian died it was the end of what made family guy good. After that, the jokes weren’t funny to me and family guy was like any other crappy adult cartoon. No uniqueness, no rebellious or risky writing, it’s just a few left leaning jokes and physical comedy and no good storyline
I do remember that episode and your theory makes tons of sense. I wonder if Simpsons have the same quality from before. Its been a while since I watched South Park but I love professor PC and so on
Few people consider the educational nature of South Park. I've learned a great deal from South Park. I always watched it with Dutch subtitles, and one day I noticed that the subtitles were turned off without me realizing it. Thanks to South Park, I learned English! Besides English, I also learned a lot about American customs, trends, and cultural aspects. For example, I knew nothing about Mormonism. After an episode, I would Google to what extent their satire was based on truth. I am forever grateful to Trey Parker and Matt Stone.
I like to think of Family Guy like a conversation you have with your friends, you may have a theme on which all of you can learn something, but the main point is just having a fun time and laugh a bit. The conversation is constantly deviating from the point and you may find yourself on a whole another theme, but that’s what makes it fun most of the time. South Park is like a lesson being given by a really fun and crazy teacher, it keeps a theme throughout all of its duration that will make you question or learn about something and is constantly being taught in the form of jokes. It may lack that chaotic energy that makes you feel like your having a good time, but it makes up for it by being funny in a smart-built structure that is able to entertain just as much. In the end it comes down to viewer preference, I prefer having dumb fun so I enjoy Family Guy the most, but I can appreciate South Parks more smartly told comedy.
I always loved South Park for it's (often missed) intelligence and perceptiveness. I could tell I wouldn't feel that way about Family Guy when I first heard about it and saw bits and pieces. This just confirms how I've always felt.
the fact of the matter is most people are too young or whatever else you may say to actually understand south park, i started watching when i was like 15 and am now 19 and i still go back and say like oh i understand this now or i find humor in new things because i am actually learning stuff about society, the past in general (i mean south park is predicated to the current news of its timeframe since the 90s) and just stories that actually get you thinking
Don't recall ever laughing whilst watching Family Guy- though I never go out of my way to watch it. The Simpsons was excellent for the first 200 episodes, then it just died straight off- no drawn out death- just very good to bad. Corporate greed demanded an episode a week when it was infinitely better when it was seasonal. The Seth Macfarlane set up is the same throughout all of his cartoons- talking baby- talking dog, talking alien- talking goldfish, talking bear... You get the point. Short memory small laughs.
@@awesomemohawk4511 That's how I feel about Calvin and Hobbes. I understood very little of it when I was 6 or so, and loved going back throughout my childhood and slowly understanding more and more of it. South Park is the Calvin and Hobbes of adult cartoons
@@awesomemohawk4511 I think you are right, I felt I was too old when it came out I was 19 and I just felt too mature to watch something that looked like it was more for kids. If as a 19 or now 44 year old I would get a lot of story, but at younger age I wouldn't have. From what little I have seen it has quite good writing but with a sensibility that is going to repel many with the IQ to actually appreciate that intelligent writing.
The Simpsons did cutaway gags really well between around season 4-9, they solved the issues mentioned here. In $pringfield Homer has a false memory about Marges reaction to the proposed casino, it's cutting away to something else, but it is still relevant to the story. One of the most funniest jokes in the entire series, is in the Cartridge Family, where the section of the story that showcases Homer acting irresponsible with his new gun. He walks into the Kwik-E-Mart twirling it around, Apu assumes it is a robbery, Homer is about to explain before he stops and thinks about what would happen if he did rob the place which triggers the cutaway. However instead of going back to the story like it never happened, Homer makes up his mind only to realise that he is now leaving the Kwik-E-Mart.
Yes, Simpsons cutaways are just fantasies or daydreams that are directly related to what the character is doing, not some random "imagine if" - showing something not funny or clever, just really weird.
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Family Guy - you remember jokes.
South Park - you remember episodes.
You nailed it
What's your preference? Do you prefer memorable jokes or episodes?
@@michaelfryers1914 Episodes obviously
Very true 🤔
@@michaelfryers1914 *EPISODES*
I remember when I first re-watched South Park in my 20s and realized how clever of a show it is. Suddenly I understood all the jokes that didn't make any sense when I watched them as a kid.
Yes same. Liked family Guy as a kid more for that reason.
Now South Park is just utterly genius and you always watch it with the biggest grin 😂
I remember this feeling when I re-watch south park older episodes. The newest ones actually tie into eachother now. Which makes south park more are interesting. You have to actually pay attention to details to expect whats gonna happen next.
Family guy is expecting at same time, its unexpectedly funny sometimes. But family guy is whole bunch punchlines with off topic jokes.
Which makes south park more interesting. Plus easier to watch. Tbh watching to much family guy makes feel dumber.
You were allowed to watch South Park as a kid?
@@Rose-hh7mk I was home alone a lot
@@Rose-hh7mk i wasn't allowed to watch family guy until I turned 12. But watched south park all I can remember haha.
This might be unpopular but Randy Marsh > Peter Griffin
I don’t think that is unpopular at all
@@wephilips6651 that’s a hot-hot-hot take
Pretty sure Randy could kick Peter's ass, too. Peter may know how to fight a cock, but Randy's cock is literally magic
Not unpopular
I think almost everyone would agree. Randy may be overused in recent seasons but most people would agree he's a much better character.
As a kid I definitely liked Family Guy more. As an adult, I can’t stand to watch Family Guy post like 2005, but South Park still lives up and even gets better with time.
South Park definitely has the lasting power (though it had some very weak seasons a few years ago), but it never repeated its S6-9 golden age IMO.
@@Schrodinger_ S6-9? South Park's so called "golden age" lasted well past season 9. Even just Season 10 alone was South Park at its peak. Make Love not Warcraft, Cartoon Wars double episode, Go God Go double episode, Manbearpig, Miss Teacher Bangs a Boy (niiiccceee). Tell me you havent seen all of the South Park without telling me you havent seen all of the South Park.
@@BL00DYME55 all of THE south park...............
The golden age is like season 4-20 lol
@@BL00DYME55 ok man, it's my opinion. The episodes you listed were good, but IMO they're nowhere near as good as the likes of Casa Bonita, Awesome-O, Goobacks, Christian Rock Hard, etc. Also I think the Warcraft one is highly overrated. It's just my opinion, you're free to yours too.
I think there should be a contest. Seth makes his own south park episode, Matt and Trey make their own family guy episode. I bet both would be hella funny
YESS OMG I WAS LITERALLY THINKING THE SAME THING
Both would be shit. I prefer south park's style of writing, but south park would exaggerate on the cutaway jokes way more than family guy does. Could turn it into a discord server. And family guy's take on south park would just be conversations. Could turn it on a podcast
no. Because family guy can’t tell a story and south park is a show that actually has a story. Only the south park-made family guy episode will be funny because they are actually funny.
@@Yesiloveburritos dumb
Only one would be funny wtf you mean 🤣
Another huge issue with the cutaway gags in Family Guy is that if you don't understand the reference, the joke doesn't land. In South Park, even if you don't understand the reference, it's still funny as it plays of the context of the story. Since Family Guy's cutaways are completely random and almost never have anything to do with the story, they are entirely reliant on you understanding the reference.
I have that issue with family guy quite often as they use a lot of references in their jokes and I don't know a lot of the cultural landscape they are referring to.
The best/worst example of this is the cutaway where they reference an old jam commercial. Peter literally comes out and explains the reference, which is funny but many gags would need that bc the reference is so outdated.
In South Part, the ref to Marlon Brando in The Island of Dr Moreau was funny on its own even if you don't know the ref. If you know it, it's a fun touch.
@@michaeldavid6832 see that's truly masterful
Family Guy went Cut-A-Way happy after Seth left ....and it shows, it's done to replace real thought or writing, it's nothing but filler.
I think the funniest thing that could ever happen to family guy is being divided into two compilations of absolutely no cut aways versus only cut aways and see what is longer
How in the world would the cutaway compilation be longer when it takes up like ten percent of every episode? 😭 simple math says this is easy
@@mr.womack3638 you forget sometimes they make the cut aways long for basically no reason
@@digitalsquid6031 There is always a reason. It could be all shitty reasons, but they all have a reason to exist.
@@SporkyMcFlyfr bro. sometimes the longer they go for make it seems dumb n jus funny since it's dumb
Since s1 exists it would easily be more actual episode but I think that cutaways probably take up around 30% of the entire series
the reason I love south park. is because it's a time machine you can Pick a seasons episode and have a real feel of a point of time in American society year by year.
In addition to this, more often than not, the “point in time” will *still* be relevant, even now.
South Park I like.
So far I've watched up to the start of season 13 and this couldn't be more accurate 😂😂
It becomes even more incredible when you learn that in order to maintain timely, when they start each season they give the team only a week to completely make and air each episode. And even crazier, they've only missed ONE deadline. And that was because of a power outage.
@@timm5362 Not to sound dismissive, but... it's South Park. Not exactly a high bar to clear. And they're paid quite a lot to animate on a show that's not really graphically intensive. I'm sure that incentive alone causes them to constantly work diligently. I'd be more surprised if they didn't work as fast as that.
I always say Family Guy is funniest in random, out of context clips that are perfectly cut. Watching full episodes is never as funny.
Right, this show is easily bingeable as TH-cam clips, but I rarely watch a full episode and NEVER twice. South Park really wins with its rewatchability but family guy does a really good job at that more chaotic writing.
Agreed 100%
@@waterspigot8404 Agreed 100%
100% truth. Family guy funny moments clips are the only way to get enjoyment out of newer family guy episodes lmao
only some episodes, where they redo popular movies, or the murder mystery they did. these ones where good
My favorite thing about South Park is when I remember a single part, I’m flooded with a dozen other funny things all related to that single part. Entire episodes are extremely memorable and impactful
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It wasn't until seeing this video that I realized why I didn't like the Family Guy. I have tried watching it a number of times and the jokes never land for me. They seem cringe or forced or pedestrian. Just inserted and you feel like you are supposed to laugh but I don't like being compelled to laugh on queue. You cannot argue with their success and many people like them but the show just doesn't resonate with me. I enjoyed American Dad though it isn't half as good as south park.
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Family Guy always seemed to me to have the rapid-fire, "throw it at the wall, see what sticks" approach, in that if one joke fails there really isn't time to dwell on it before the next one.
For South Park, it's all or nothing: every episode (past a certain season anyway) has something to say, and there's always the risk that the audience will HATE what is being expressed. I still watch it, despite its problems, because I dunno there's just something mesmerizing about the level of detail being put into the satire. Love it or hate it, there's a lot of effort on display and I find that oddly fascinating.
I've never liked Family Guy, but ironically I love American Dad, which is very different show. But to each his own.
That's a really good point. The effort put into writing each episode is palatable.
"But to each his own" ... best comment on here! So is comedy in general.
I think one thing worth mentioning is South Parks plot nearly always centers around some recent social issue or people in real life. It’s relevancy and satire on events that most of us may have opinions on makes it hit a little deeper than family guys often entirely made up plots.
Follow up on that: I often aren’t up to date on current events, and as a result enjoy family guy more cause anyone can watch it without context.
@@martyshwaartz971 As someone who did a history degree, I enjoy South Park a lot more because episodes essentially become sources on historical events. Although, at the same time, those episodes don't pack the punch of the ones I watch contemporaneously.
@@davespiller684exactly, they don’t age as well. I’m enjoying the newer episodes but if I decide to rewatch them in a few years when the topics are irrelevant I’ll just be like whatever
Except it goes in insanely stupid directions that then lose most of the connection with the current events/recent social issues it strives to parody. I understand some people love this, but to say it’s not a niche taste is just simply false. Family Guy is more mainstream, easier to jump in and out of, they will always be more commercially successful than South Park. It’s not a big deal, who cares? Certainly not the Family Guy writing staff. The snowflakes at south park however?? I’m not so sure 😂.
@@kaicenatbackupaccc True for some, but I think most of what they make has a timeless aspect to it because they are usually expressing some kind of conventional wisdom
Family guy was good for time and lots of us know this.
But as an old Family Guy fan, it’s funny how accurate the South Park parody eventually became lol
Yeah. South Park improved a lot over the years for satirizing the current events like an editorial comic strip on newspapers comes to life.
If you ask me now, I get much more entertainment value out of early Family Guy than early South Park. The former was basically a neverending dart shooting contest of jokes and gags. Not all of it lands but it doesn't matter, you're going to get a laugh every two or three minutes. The latter feels like it relies on the gimmick of watching colourful characters doing adult things, and the character chemistry was basic at best.
That said, I do prefer South Park as a whole. I began to fall out of Family Guy when I reached the first seasons Seth MacFarlane wasn't properly involved with, it seems like every episode has a few drawn-out gags that lose their luster very quickly, and it just got boring as a result. I'm still watching South Park today, with the Streaming Wars specials containing some of the best writing I've witnessed in adult animation yet. Whoever came up with the idea of tying the breast implants subplot to the main plot of fighting a drought deserves an award, that is cohesive storytelling at its finest.
@@fictionalmediabully9830 boring comment for a boring taste
@@alcyonae
Okay, care to elaborate why I reek of boredom?
Back in the day, Seth would defend his writers. But now? I don’t think so.
Matt and Trey were dead on balls accurate with their description of family guy. I never thought it was a bad show, but it is definitely a bit disjointed and random at times. Simply the fact that it's so Random is more of what made me laugh rather than the jokes themselves.
Yeah the randomness is really what made the show so great for me.
Trey was just annoyed that he tears his hair out every 7 days trying to wrap up a cohesive and entertaining story when family guy can just say "Why don't we just have death show up"
@@Pretzil43 for a while when I was younger I used to record the beginning and end family guy episodes just to be like “how tf did this come from that?”
There is no overarching storyline like garrson becoming president.
Their formula should’ve been changed years ago but yeah fast food.
It’s nice to eat when you’re lazy but you always know there’s better options
I actually find the Family Guy episodes with less cutaways to not be as interesting. There is an art to eclectic zaniness.
its a pretty stupid show to be honest. they both kind of are.
but southpark is better
There is no universe where family guy beats Southpark.
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Season 1-4 will beat any SP episode 🤣
@@mrOGbobbyjohnsonI respect your opinion... but i disagree with you. i still think south park is better than s1-4 of family guy, even though i do like the first 4 seasons of family guy like u.
Both can be enjoyed.
Southpark is generally sharper and more biting satire.
Slapstick is more family guy's style. Trey and Matt are right that most cutaways can happen in any episode.
finally someone with an actual functioning brain
South Park’s writing is exponentially superior. The stories are relevant, consistent and funny af.
You got to have discipuine. HAHAHAHAHA, nothing beats South Park in my opinion. The only show i can watch continuously and still laugh at.
I strongly prefer South Park, but you don't know what exponential means.
Futurama>South Park>Simpsons>Family Guy
@@GagsAnimationfuturama is trash
American dad
I think Southpark's style of comedy helps establish an episode's identity, helping it as a show and as a comedy in separate ways.
Family guy is the only show where you can't tell the episodes because it's that random. I even remember big bang theory episodes.
Like the prince Harry episode was about "working on your brand" etc
Also it will make the show funny for years. Meaning in thirty years are people going to even understand family guys cutaway jokes. The references will be old. In South Park. The episode is the reference.
The quote "ive learned something today" was a game changer
Both are hilarious in their own right. Family guy feels like the tv equivalent of reading the Sunday morning comics to me. Grew up with it, will always love it.
Family Guy sought more cheap laughs but South Park really went all in on making a crazy ridiculous storyline be funny throughout an episode and that is why I have been addicted to watching it since I was in elementary school.
cheap laughs? So there's a problem with getting more bang for your buck? No doubt SP has deeper and admittedly more often better story telling but at the end of the day a joke is a joke and a laugh is a laugh. IF FG's jokes just aren't that funny to you, I get it but to say it's "cheap laughs" because they focus more on comedy than story telling is kind of crazy to me.
nah, family guy better
you've been watching south park since elementary? jeez, how did you even understand what you were watching?
about the same for me tbh. Sounds like me and bob weren't monitored very much when we was knee high to a grasshopper.@@keane6
@@willykellum7668 a jumpscare still gets a reaction out of the audience but everyone knows it’s a cheap way to do it
I fell like something people don’t talk about is how consistently characterized the characters are in South Park like the jokes make more sense because you can believe that they would do those things (like Randy fighting dads at his kids games)
i mean that's the key. Funnily the suggested south park cutaway would work fine. Family guy just has stuff you are supposed to laugh.
I feel like Randy is the one South Park character that could do anything, often random stuff, much like a cutaway gag.
or Cartman buying an amusement park just so he can keep everyone else out. Family Guy could probably get away with such an episode using Peter, Stewie or Chris but there's plenty of episodes that show it wouldn't be entirely characteristic of them. Cartman is a selfish asshole which has basically never been contradicted in any episode.
In south park the characters have changed a lot too, is not as linear as it may seem, but in the latest seasons they have been doing it in a much consistent way... I actually like both series but they are different types of comedy
They do the same thing in family guy
Even in standup comedy, I really appreciate the sets where the jokes are tied to the theme. I love it when the comedian takes you down a side story and then at the end it all ties together. It’s like there’s an extra layer to each of the side jokes once you can see the complete mosaic…I think this makes you appreciate all the individual pieces more.
So which one is your choice of the 2?
Depends on the comedian. Both can make me laugh, but tying jokes to a story is more satisfying. It's like reading a book, the reader gets more out of a book because their imagination is making the pictures in their head. A one liner comedian is just telling jokes. A story teller is weaving their life into yours and sharing personal experiences, and making them more relatable.
I agree, I’ve watched a lot of stand up comedy over the years, but if you asked me which one stands out I would say the one time I listened 2 hours for the guy to end with how he banged the girl from the first few jokes ending with never give up on your dreams. I wish I could remember what it was called.
I like funny things.
the type of jokes that go like "let me tell you how i met your mother,dont worry itll all pay off in the end... and thats how I met your mother, thank you evryone for coming out..."
2:47 not a single one of those examples made me laugh and he used them to tell how effective Family Guy's cutaways can be, if that's their best defense then that's crazy!
Exactly
But honestly as someone who never really got south park, (I should probably try and watch it again), none of his examples of jokes where funny from south park in this video to me either. Idk any of the characters or how they interact so without the context or full story it just didn’t really land, I think family guy is the same, just watching the gags seperate to the story none of them were funny.
Like not knowing who ‘randy’ is, the drunk driver scene wasn’t funny to me but it seems like the people who are familiar with the character enjoyed the scene. So I think shows cant be judged from analysis videos that only show specific parts of them.
South Park's ability to turn entire episodes into metaphors for real world issues in ways that have clear parallels when you look for them, but are obscured with absurd humor is just straight up a grade above. Maybe more.
I appreciate that their jokes are "completely diegetic" or... "in the story/world", and aren't just complete throw away scenes referenced once and then all consequences for which are disregarded. I cannot imagine how difficult it is to craft a coherent story like that while keeping it entertaining, engaging, and on topic.
Yeh im not reading all that
@@TYLOTYLOTYLO k, have a nice day
@@TYLOTYLOTYLO it isn't even that long, attetion spans are really going extinct
@RaniaIsAwesomeand its usually not that well hidden what the parralells are now a days
@@biggiecurls1686 ah yes, family guy, my favorite non-political comedy show.
It's never been a problem for me. I love both shows. The fact the styles are way different, it's what makes them each good in their own ways.
PREACH!!
I’m a family guy hater, but that shouldn’t stop you from enjoying what you feel like!
@@MetroplexBias i dont even rlly like family guy but the hole in my soul needs to be filled somehow after finishing south park 😂😂
@@MetroplexBiaswhy? No hate just wondering ?
I tend to like South Park more because they usually have their finger on the pulse of what's happening in the world. On particularly divisive topics, they have their characters in conflict on different sides of the issue.
They used to but not anymore. They’re too rich
Thats why i like family guy a lot more. I have depression, a stressful life and stuggles. I dont want to be reminded of all the bad shit that happens in the world all the time. Sometimes i just want to laugh without overthinking everything and i am pretty sure everyone with a different goal than that will perfer sp.
There it is!! THAT is the true genius of South Park. These dudes write, produce and animate each show the same week it is shown. They've been in the pressure cooker for almost 30 years and, in my opinion, have never produced a dud. Sure, not all episodes are as good as the others but what show is?!? South Park is on a different level as far as sophistication and raw story telling talent and they are inarguably hilarious. You've had the most relevant comment I've seen, thus far.
@@jiveshdonode1271 it’s only South Park relax 😭
South Park shouldn’t be making fun of Family Guys jokes when half South Parks shit is being edgy and offensive vs making actual jokes
Both shows are great and both are more clever than what people give them credit for. However I have a slight preference for Family guy, because I’m a sucker for observational humour, a lot of people think it’s just crude, dark and silly (Same as what they think of South park) but it actually contains a lot of pretty clever and observant takes on everything from every day life to Historical events.
South Park has genuinely great and well written stories and jokes, and family guy has funny slapstick humor that's basically it for me.
I think both have their own place in entertainment. I've laughed at and enjoyed both.
Family Guy has genuinely great and original type of humor, which is inappropriate sometimes, but most of the value is the unexpected and in some way unique factor, theres not another show with same humor as FG.
South park on the other hand, surely has better written story, but most of the value is in everybody swearing, kids yelling at their parents, disgustingly portraied gays and humoring nazis... it's trying to be that extra cool and tough guy, who dares to do anything... but it's stale. those "inappropriate" themes are still the same after more than 15 years.
And talk to me about "using only the best of their ideas" in SP, when theres a literal sausage and a poop as characters.
@@androidtalking "Family Guy has generally great and original type of humor"
You must not be talking about the 10 cutaway gags Family Guy averages per episode. I literally did the math. The Family Guy writers didn't even come up with that format. It's existed berore.
"Most of the value is in the unexpected and in some way unique factor"
Dude... Family Guy jokes are not unexpected. Most of them are: "Boy, this is crazier than the time I" or "Gee, that's even more insane than that time (insert random celebrity name) did (insert wacky scenario)". If by "unexpected", you meant "formulaic" then hey, you win.
"There's not another show with the same humor as FG"
Yh, thank God! If every show had 10 cutaway gags per episode, I'd blow my brains out. There might be a good reason why writers don't want to make their show seem like FG.
"South Park on the other hand, surely has better written story, but most of the value is in everybody swearing, kids yelling at their parents, disgustingly portrayed gays and humoring Nazis..."
Are you saying FG doesn't have those things?? Wtf? The show where Hitler makes regular appearances? Where Chris and Meg curse all the time? The show with a gay "child enjoyer" as a character?? (I'd use the actual word but the comment might get deleted if I didn't.)
They say @Grabble is a wise person. Apparently has degrees in several fields.
@@bodyrumuae2914 The second half of your comment does not in any way support the first half of your comment. Try again.
I think a big part of this too is the fact that these other shows hate family guy but they don’t hate American dad. American dad is so different from family guy and deserves more recognition and it sucks that it gets thrown in with family guy and people miss out on a really good adult animated show
American Dad is Family Guy with an alien instead of a dog.
@@christophertaylor9100 lol I feel bad that this is your opinion because you’ve clearly never watched too much American dad. Completely different show the animation styles are the same and so are the voices but other than that they’re written by 2 groups of completely separate writers and really aren’t that similar at all. The writing for the characters alone in American dad is enough for me to think it’s better than family guy
@@PumpkinPie__ Indeed, Family Guy is driven by non-sequiturs, and American Dad is more character driven. The writing and comedy style are quite different
@@christophertaylor9100 And many other characters along with a different approach to storytelling and humor
I think Futurama is a show that deserves way more praise than it gets. The show is so great but it was initially promoted as "From the creators of The Simpson's". I think people were starting to get tired of The Simpsons at that point and South Park and Family Guy were stealing the spotlight, so people just figured Futurama was a Simpson's spin-off, which is definitely was NOT. TBH, I never really gave the show a chance until a few years ago and now it is one of my favorites.
Let's think of it this way: You're at a party. Is it more funny for someone to build jokes off the situation or just tell random puns.
actually yeah that is a pretty good way to think about it
and i find both styles are good in thier own right so really personal preference you could say either is funnier I like em both and don't hold a strong opinion of one over the other
This is actually a really good analogy.
@@theotherguy4456 but surely you have to concede that the former requires considerably more skill?
None I’m at a party to get fucked up not hear dad jokes tf🤣🤣
One of my fave celebrity roast moments was Mike Tyson, he got up and was reading from an old Greek poem, then he said he didn’t want Seth being the only one stealing from Homer. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
One thing I appreciate about the older cutaways is how they occasionally tied into the story. Like that bull in the china shop one for example
i red it as glass in the bull shop lmao
“I know what you’re thinking”
Or when Peter was a police sketch artist.
One of my favorites was Hitler juggling on a unicycle.
South Park standing up for their morals is showing their strength. Even in the face of being 'wrong' they continued.
lol!
@@Politicianist true, but I think south park changed what they thought was wrong in a funny way by changing Tolkien's name from Token. Also especially recently they've cut out the genuinely offensive jokes I think.
@@watercolor1040 what the fuck ? Token name doesn't come from Tolkien at all. His name is "Token Black" because in a movie, the token black is just the black character that's here just to have one black character
@@JohnDouille Yeah, this shows much Tray and Matt has changed from what they used to be known for.
@@JohnDouille I know lol you misunderstood me, they changed it FROM Token to Tolkien and now his name is Tolkien. The only one who didn't realize was stan who tells him and Tolkien is like "why would my parents name me something that means the only black person?" It was a way to change his name while still being funny, now all the captions are Tolkien.
It's not the amount of punches you throw, it's the power behind them. Family Guy throws a lot of jabs, but South Park's just hit harder.
Or instead of us simply analyzing how 'storytelling styles' differ between the two, we look at the actual talent they offer. The main point of it all. South Park ceaselessly strings together predictable jokes of episodes that are "shocking and fresh", that no one actually ever laughs at or thinks are fresh, while tons of people laugh at Family Guy's clever and subtle dynamics that are always different. Like when Brian follows Stewie hitching a ride in a semi, a flare gun fires spiraling into a massive one-minute crash, Brian sees Stewie get out and swerves to save his life, asks if he's okay what happened, and Stewie responds to finish one of the funniest and subtly crafted jokes in comedy history. South Park does what's expected to be done, and Family Guy does what no one else has the work and vision to perfect. Most of these videos are of guys pointing at all the unfunny aspects of both shows, cognitively missing the actual comedy and enormous craft of writing right in front of them with the latter, and vaguely trying to summarize a more complex issue. In essence, unfunny people prefer South Park because it doesn't tackle humor at as high of a standard, focusing on other TV aspects, however predictable and culturally repetitive. It's always fun to see another 'common opinion' on how much South Park is a masterpiece. One day we'll get a real analysis video.
You would lose a boxing match
@@isleohagger5455 I find family guy to be entertaining, but not overall funny. South Park is both. Of course this is my opinion. I don't see how preferring SP would make someone unfunny. No correlation.
Meh can’t we enjoy both? I mean I prefer FG lol any day but gotta enjoy and respect South Park for sure.
@@isleohagger5455 You sound like the Rick And Morty "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty" copypasta meme. It's really not that deep and the fact of the matter is that SP does a twisted comedic critique of social issues while Family Guy provides more care-free and isolated jokes that don't really make sense as a whole, as said in the video. I don't necessarily think any of them is 'better' than the other, it's just different approach to comedy/satire.
I am fan of random / absurd humour. So the family guy cutaways is the thing that I love most about it. I just want light hearted humour while I'm having my food. And honestly saying I tried to watch South park season 1 and I stopped.... I kinda forced myself to watch the first full season because everyone said it's good but I just couldn't. On the other hand family guy just got me hooked. I also like this fact that family guy has different types of comedy styles in individual given episode rather than simple satire irony jokes. I just love their randomness and combination of multiple different types of jokes.
Other comedy stuff that I love are - broklynn 99 (max jokes/min), big bang theory, dictator (fav) and borat movie by that great actor, key and peele (their ideas are so unique and random), arrested development (very clever writing and highly underrated) and Pete holmes badman series (hahahah), and lastly with utmost respect the "Monty Python"
Well, because Family Guy was good for its first seasons till 2005, but on the other hand, South Park got better as the show went on. So season 1 of South Park was the beginning, and it was trying to figure itself but as the show went on it became bigger like season 5 onwards. Trust me give it a try
South Park gets a lot better after season 3. Season 1 was not great but highly recommend watching even their newer episodes
its like they don't understand that just because there's a traditional way of doing things it doesn't mean that everything has to be that way. Family guy has found its way of doing things and its great, sometimes it doesn't land but for the most part its great , i really enjoy it.
Just put it this way, I grew up watching both of these shows as a kid. Family guy got boring as I grew older while as South Park stayed funny and gets even more funnier
Great point. I grew out of family guy, but I'm still a 30 something year old that watches SP lol
I grew up watching both as well, I like more South Park episodes, than Family Guy episodes. But, at least I get some good laughs in almost every Family Guy episode, but when a “bad” episode of South Park comes out, I realize, I never wanna see that episode again, when Family Guy has a “bad” episode, I’m like, “Well, the story sucked, but at least it had funny parts in it, I’ll prolly watch it again.” But I’d say about 85-90% of South Park episodes are really good, imo, where as Family Guy is prolly closer to 70-75% good episodes. So I do prefer South Park to Family Guy, but the fact about the King of the Hill writers hating Family Guy, makes no sense to me at all. King of the Hill is different than all other adult cartoons I’ve ever liked, it isn’t anything like The Simpsons, South Park, Family Guy, or Futurama, or even American Dad. My personal ratings on animated adult cartoons, is.
1.) South Park
2.) Family Guy, King of the Hill, and Futurama (all tied at 2nd)
3.) Aqua Teen Hunger Force
4.) Beavis and Butt-Head (original not the remake)
5.) The Simpsons (charity spot, because I loved playing the arcade game, and the show was a trailblazer.) (But, I literally have never watched an episode of the Simpsons that made me do anything more than just faintly chuckle) I’m currently 36 and will turn 37 in July of 2023. Love South Park, and really really really like, KotH, FamGuy, and Futurama. Wish I could go back to 2003-2007 when both Family Guy and South were almost always hilarious every single episode. King of the Hill and Futurama got replaced by, imo, dumbass shows like Rick and Morty, The Boondocks, American Dad, and The Cleveland Show. Sorry to all the Rick and Morty, Boondocks, and American Dad fans, just never liked any of those shows at all personally.
When I was 11 I watched ALL of family guy until I heard about south park and now im on season 22 and its way better than family guy
@@davesmith4839 I mostly agree with you. Also, R&M were good for two seasons. Since then they have just sucked
You grew up to what 9? Your grammar is abhorrent!
The fact the Family Guy didn't even attempt to defend or fire back pretty much settled it immediately. Not to mention Seth literally called it "funny and accurate" when asked about it by Rolling Stone later
Ah haha I didn't know that 😅
@@lauramac90 Honestly, that makes them seem a little more down to earth.
and if they had fired back on south park you wouldve been saying family guy people are immature. pick one
@@obeseclownlivesmatter8306 no.... we wouldn't lol
@@obeseclownlivesmatter8306 "Pick one of the two options I just made up."
I wouldn't have thought the cartoon responding to the other cartoon was any more immature than either cartoon normally is. 🙄
The door cutaway was even along the same lines as an earlier cutaway in which Peter pressed a button that said "do not push" and got karate kicked by a random guy. Both of those could have been used interchangeably
Nah, bruh really?!💀
The funniest 😂😂😂
Peak humor
@@o-kiku3939 yeah really, truth. It like a drop down of situation followed by a drop down of whats there follow by a drop down of what happens and how. Really bruh
@@salintium Wow.
I think Matt and Trey’s point was, in their show, the jokes feel like extensions to the plot, and in Family guy, they’re just filler additions with not much worth that sometimes relate to the plot but barely even effect it.
So? As long as it's funny
@@reek4062 Rarely.
@@locosword3985 South Park is rarely funny nowadays
@@reek4062 their quality control is still better than Family guy and there are still shreds of the south park everyone fell in love with.
@@locosword3985 It's just consistently unfunny and boring. The shreds are just that: shreds.
The fact that I can remember specific south park episodes I haven’t seen in years and only gags from family guy says a lot
His rant about the Conway twitty gag is funnier than the gag itself
I heard a rumor thar it was just to troll Fox. He gets pissed when they ask him to censor jokes so he forces them to waste money on Conway Twitty (who they don't own the rights to)
The joke is he's literally making them burn money out of spite.
I'm pretty sure the Conway Twitty gag was intended to be annoying rather than funny
Remind me again what was so funny about it? In fact can you explain the joke?
@William Butcher That’s mostly true but keep in mind that Seth is a student of classic American entertainment and seemingly random musical interludes like that are practically a staple of that time. So its a bit jarring if you’re unfamiliar with it - and it probably was pretty fucking annoying too lmao
@@Chineseisntalanguageapparently It's funny for those of us of a certain age, that grew up watching Conway Twitty on Hee Haw. Like he said, if it was just a few seconds it would be funnier in a absurd way
Trey and Matt made it pretty clear that they get why people like it, they just don’t respect it from a writing standpoint
You should look up how they handle criticisms of their writing styles…
Honestly they kinda soud butthurt. And i love southpark mind you.
@@Rui301 they guys who wrote episodes making fun of Phil Collins cause he won the Oscar over them hold grudges or hate people just cause? No way.
They make all of their episodes in 6 days. That’s a very non-traditional writing style that I’m sure a lot of traditional sitcom writers didn’t respect. What is a “respectable” style of writing anyway?
@@dqarqeer8603 making it in 6 days isn’t a writing style, it’s a production style. The jokes they write are inherent to the story, which is pretty common, it’s so common that when they sh*t on family guy, the Simpson writing staff sent them flowers and King of the Hill writers said “they’re doing gods work”, so it seems a lot of writers don’t respect it.
The Conway Twitty cutaways are usually a song that relates to whatever situation Peter is trying to distract Lois from
I find the Conway twitty cutaways so funny now BECAUSE they were so frustrating and a huge waste of time. It’s funny seeing them and seeing how mad I got at it
@@xionelectra THEIR NOT FUNNY AT ALL AND LAZY AS HELL
@@bigt100exactly the point😂
@@xionelectra They kinda regret doing those jokes and acknowledged how there were simply lazy padding. In a recent season's episode Peter gets a message from heaven saying something like "Conway Twitty has a message for you, write a fucking joke"
No dude: they’re still lazy as hell
I think not even Family Guy fans will deny that South Park‘s writing is superior. However this does not mean that you can not enjoy Family Guy and it‘s jokes. It gave us some very memorable moments (e.g my favorite scene when Stewie and Brian try to act as Santa Claus)
I can’t think of a joke that I laughed to. I only got hyped when Meg finally stands up for herself or Stewie defending her
Brian gets run over by a car and a squirrel kicks him
South parks jokes never landed for me its weird. They try way too hard for shock value and crude, similar to family guy yet it doesn't land for me. Idk, Idrc about either shows enough to argue lmao
@@Garmin316 You cared enough to comment
@@mesotolioma5089 Because.. the video is literally comparing the two and their comedic value. lol, what the fuck man?
I have so much respect for trey parker and matt stones character. Nobody is off limits or everybody is off limits. Behind the surface crudeness is always an intelligent take on a subject. I only ever saw a couple episodes of the boondocks but that also seemed to be a show like that. Far smarter than it seems on surface. Im seeing the book of mormon for the first time next month, very exited.
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I do like that way of thinking, no one is off limits but it can also be a bad thing, you can make people mad. Think both are right about this sometimes u have to think about what the consequences are of a joke.
@@wwerules000most people who can't take a joke are most likely thin skinned or just cry babies though. South park is definetly successful because it's smarter than the average modern person. Most people who don't like South park have a stick up their ass 🤷 and arent very free thinkers.
Love the boondocks comparison. Those two shows are the pinnacle of animation comedy and writing.
You're wrong. Biden is clearly off limits.
What I also feel is important, is that South Park shows you all sides of the argument. They always conclude it, but it also seems like the conclusion was pulled from both sides. Most other shows just show you exactly where they stand on an issue. Even in the cartoon wars they had people on family guys side.
I think you are describing nuance & how much more nuanced south park is than family guy
Yes, thank you
My favorite example is how they turned the console wars into game of thrones/lotr with kids on both sides then switching side etc by far south park at its best
i think that's what i generally like more about south park, like, despite it's surrealist type of humor, it actually feels much more grounded in reality, showing people that think differently from each other and the conflicts that arise because of it, and how, sometimes, those conflicts are meaningless, and sometimes they're not. they generally just have a good grasp of human nature, and i can respect that.
Honestly, SP is more likely to rip on both sides than it is to show you both sides.
South Park wins, not even a competition!!
You don’t even believe that
@@BooskiWooski how u gonna tell him what HE believes 😂😂 gtfo
Not with old family guy
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If it wasn't a competition, why does this video exist? Also Family Guy is better.
Family Guy sometimes hits me with a good laugh out of the blue, breaking up the monotony of multiple failed jokes. On the flip side, South Park is just packed with cleverness in every line, and their jokes stick with me for years after I watch an episode.
Very well put! That's exactly what I think but couldn't put in words!
I dunno why people keep saying this but it's the exact opposite: South park has good situational setups, but not great dialog or standalone jokes. "Cleverness in every line"? What are you talking about? Their dialog is blunt, functional, and generally just matches what we already expected a character to say. What line of theirs is memorable as an *inherently* funny line? I can't think of a single one. (Except maybe from the Sarah Jessica Parker episode.)
@vigilante8374 NO! * Spray bottle to the face
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-Kenny always dies
-Cartman fed Scott Tillerman his parents
-Sadam is gay for the Devil
-Butters is a pimp
-The boys sending a whale to the moon
-Water Park filled with piss
-"Why every time a Chinese man builds a Chineae wall the damn Mongolians tear it down."
-Randy fighting all the sports dads
-Barbra Streisand as Godzilla
-All of season 19 which was the first time they created a story arc
Dude I can keep going and going and going.
@@James_Renz I was specifically referring to what you said: "cleverness in every line". Which means specifically dialog, and that was all that I was talking about.
You didn't list a single git bit of clever dialog in response.
Dialog that is merely referring to a visual gag isn't "clever" dialog (particularly if it's a gag that's been done 500+ times.)
I already said up front that their situational setups can be pretty good and original. But their follow-through with the dialog is usually blunt and not terribly clever.
@@vigilante8374 Okay... goodbye 👋
I think Family Guy is simply a show you watch to get some laughs without wanting to put too much thought into the story. They start off with a story line, then halfway through they completely deviate to a different topic, so the first half of the episode is meaningless. South Park is also a funny show, but provides a good narrative that goes along with the jokes it tells. The story line for that show sticks with it throughout the entire episode.
Well said.
i generally agree, though South Park has more often crossed the line with gross humor, not that Family Guy hasn't, but South Park showed a live sex change operation, which wasn't at all funny, and i don't believe Family Guy would ever go so low, just as South Park would never insult us with Conway Twitty, so its complicated
@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 I thought the sex change scene though vile was hilarious
@@hounsdjentlow3074 to each their own, it was too graphic and horrifying to me, but then i'm not usually one for gross out humor
With a b story in the background lol
Cutaways are not hard to write. Let me demonstrate.
"Oh God Lois, this is worse than that time I went to an arcade with Michael J. Fox."
-Cut away to Peter and Michael J. Fox inside an arcade, next to a claw machine trying to grab a plushie.
-MJF is maneuvering the claw and it is of course taking him way too long because of his Parkinson's. This stretches the scene for an entire minute, with Peter looking on in silence.
-MJF finally activates the claw. It goes down but doesn't grab any plushie.
-Peter says "Can I try now?"
-End cutaway
(This took me 3 and a half minutes to come up with and write. On my phone while in bed.)
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Omg thats fucking hilarious 😢 I'm convinced it was actually on family guy. Making fun of celebrities and someone whose crippled 😅
And its funny. I dont see your point.
Ok, now I’ll write a South Park scene;
Vomit, diarrhea, AIDS joke
The end
I hate how this would 100% fit in a family guy episode
What I'd like is Themed cut aways, spread over a seasion. How the cut aways, tell a story on it's own.
As soon as that South Park episode came out, I immediately thought, yeah that's definitely true about Family Guy, I mean they can be funny and all sometimes, but South Park is more of a consistent storyline, and to me, makes it more consistently funny and meaningful.
Which is exactly what makes it flawed, like going too far with Randy's weed storyline
they are completely continuing the story line on purpose because it makes fans angry that they are doing this bit for so long-
@@Officialboss3000lol I’m pretty sure that’s not what he’s referring to
I know in Family Guy,you don't care about the episodes but you go to You Tube videos to see the funniest Family Guy clips whereas South Park,you need to watch the whole episodes in which it has lessons in the end kind of like Jerry Springer's Final Thought.
The problem with family guy jokes is that they don't have any consequences. It makes writing the joke easier, but also less funny. I.e if Peter does something stupid and destroys half of his house, and in the next scene, the house is fine again. It would be a lot more funny if bad decisions had lasting consequences. That way, every subsequent scene would be a reminder of Peters stupidity.
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Very insightful.
Like how that one kid in that one show dies in every episode.
@@akobozaske Kenny doesnt die in SouthPark anymore...and hasnt died for a while if i remember correctly. And, when he did, he stayed dead for the rest of the episode.
I like that it reminds me spongebob
South Park is so good at its structure and writing style you begin to see their episodes as events. Then you can actually be excited for their specials,which are like movie length episodes. Then there is the South Park films, "Bigger, Longer and Uncut" and ,"Team America" which are pretty much legendary. Family guy is so random that over time you care about certain bits more than episodes. Family guy is perfect for tik tok but South Park is just perfect.
If tic Tok didn’t exist South Park would be on top
@@tomweeks7040 its still on top but family guy was like made for the medium. Tik Tok made me wanna watch Family Guy and then when i got to the episode I swear I couldn't make it through lol
I don't even remember many jokes from Family guy tbf. It seems like they write for an average mjddle aged American, who thinks Peter is funny and definitely needs that family dynamic that looks like every other sitcom. The baby and the dog were actually good characters, also Peter's friends like Quagmire were funny sometimes, though the type of jokes they make are always the same, but Peter and his family are very boring, just like every other sitcom. I always got a strong impression they even have Peter for average Americans who watch only very mainstream shows to have someone to associate with. And they have short jokes that aren't really funny and mostly namedrop celebrities because their audience has a short attention span and don't understand too obscure humor. I did watch Family guy in the past, but that was before I was aware of the choices there are and mostly because of the baby and the dog.
Peter griffin reminds me of Homer if Homer was a scitzofrenic and could never stick to the main theme of the episode
There's lots of room for improvement in South Park as well. A lot of the jokes are just gross-ness, especially in the old episodes, and a lot of it is super specific to current events, especially the newer episodes.
I've watched every episode of the past decade of South Park, they keep hitting it out of the park. By contrast, I haven't even watched Family Guy since around seasons 11 & 12 (but have kept up with American Dad) so if that tells you how these shows compare.... Great video!
John Cleese once said something like "Don't just put jokes in a story but make the story itself funny" and I think South Park follows that formula well.
Yeah, one should be chosen. If you're going to bother writing a story at all anything unrelated is just padding. Saw dust in your salami if you will. Sure you have more to eat, but the extra volume still isn't food. More isn't better when it's just the crap swept off the floor. The claim it's more difficult to write the cutaways is blatant nonsense. They're scraps from the office trash bin not great literary works. Funny? Yes, but cheap in the context they're used.
@@MrPortajohn I wouldn't say the majority of family guy jokes are even mildly amusing, it's just implied that they're funny so that their loyal followers blindly laugh cause they're told its funny, hence why they fill so much time with irrelevant cut aways. Its not even just lazy writing, it's just quantity over quality and substance. Seth macfarlane pumping as many episodes and different shows out that are all similar in structure (which is the one stolen from the simpsons) really emphasises this.
and who tf is John Cleese and why does his opinion even matter lmfao
@@Quiyum He is one od the original Monty Python actors and writers. He knows a thing or two about comedy writing.
@@Quiyum Woah. He was one of the standout members of Monty Python. How do you not know of Monty Python? They sort of invented modern surreal comedy. Edit: Im bad with names too. Ive actually seen the guy live though. He's funny af.
I used to like family guy way more when I was younger. But as I got older I started to appreciate south park’s story telling better
Same here.
Get rid of Cartman or make him less of a prick. Or reduce his relevance to the show. Theen we'll talk.
I like South Park alot, but I love the zero f***s given, subversively dark approach Family Guy sometimes takes.
There's nothing wrong with having a heart, but I just like and respect a good savage edge.
@@davidcatlett4052 south park gives zero fucks dark aproaches every episode
South Park stories are better. Family Guy gets me howling with laughter more though.
I think being able to tell a cohesive story while also being consistently funny is a much bigger skill, and I think that leads to a more enjoyable show.
Agreed
There never has been and probably never will be a show like South Park. Unmatched in how they take the most absurd concepts, things that would be a 30-second cutaway in Family Guy, and make them feature-length episodes with compelling characters and moments and fleshed-out stories. While also being hilarious. Truly unreal.
southpark hasnt been able to do that in a while. they are much more consistently preachy then funny.
@@nullakjg767 Tell me you are trans without telling me you are trans.
@@kevinathans4191 ? I dint get how trans relates?/gen
whether you like gag comedy or not, I honestly believe it is no where NEAR as hard to write as comedy that follows a linear path and reflect back on a previous stated line, joke or action.
Gags aren't necessarily badly written. They can be funny, and even, at rare times, incredibly clever, but that is often because they somehow refer back to previous established aspects of something.
Like, one of the most memorable gags I remember from family is the "You guys are all stupid! They will be looking for army guys!" and I think that is hilarious because it is specifically Peter that is saying that, and he is already well established as being an absolute dumbass. Had a more serious character like Joe made that joke I don't think it would have landed, but the fact we know Peter is an absolute idiot, but the logic behind his action ALMOST makes sense is what makes it work.
The same can be seen in comedy shows. I remember one very famous comedian here making a joke about someone getting his sweater stuck to a garbage truck. It was a joke in on itself, but it was mostly just a visual gag about how how people should respect the job, because some morons might get themselves hurt if not careful. It wasn't unfunny, but nothing to write home about...until he later on in the show referred back to it with "I nearly got hit by a garbage truck! Well, not by the garbage truck, by some moron hanging off the side of it by his sweater!" and that got a way bigger laugh out of me and my friends. It was unexpected, but his seeming visual and silly gag actually ended up having an impact on the story he was later telling. I would not have remembered either of those gags had they just been thrown out at random, but because they ended up getting intertwined together they made for a way better joke overall.
In regards to A and B stories I think it's one of South Parks greatest strengths, they sometimes use the a story to portray something that is not acceptable by society and then they use the b story as something incredibly similar that is accepted by society, usually pointing out the hypocrisy of people's beliefs
I remember the episode when the KFC is banned from small towns and opens a drug store that sell weed in South Park, then Randy gets cancer just to smoke and Cartman deals with addiction and become part of traffic of KFC
@@yaakovbarrokion7650 a great example
I like how you brought out the American Dad example to show that Seth can keep the comedy going while staying on topic of the theme. That's really important tbh. It brings home the fact that we're comparing shows..not necessarily writers.
Different writers...
@@killerluuk Yep
To be honest, while I think that South Park was better written than Family Guy, I think in many episodes where Family Guy tries to seriously say something and get a point across, it shows that McFarlane is a more sensitive and principles writer, so he actually has something to say while South Park often remains stuck in its centrist nihilism. Like compare Quagmires Dad, an episode that deals with actually an interesting question when it comes to trans people, Quagmire having to come to terms with his dad who was his role model coming out as trans and the implications of it and after a honest conversation where he listens to his no female dads perspective, comes to the conclusion that she is still the person he looked up to and that he wants her to be happy.
Compare that to South Park whenever they touch the subject which most of the time results in cheap shots, especially considering how passionate they had been in their early years about gay rights. And I think the fact that Seth actually has convitions really helped out with American Dad, as it allowed for Stan to have episodes where he undergoes a permanent personal progression.
@@shizachan8421 anime profile pic, typical stupid opinion.
@@Mezaph Can you elaborate or are you butthurt because I hurt the target of your paraosocial fixation?
I think this is why Family Guy is actually so funny on those out of context Tiktok clips. The cutaways themselves might be funny or relatable when viewed in a vacuum. Because they rarely have a solid connection to the actual plot of the episode, when viewed as part of the episode, they usually feel like a hindrance to plot progression.
Family guy has always been about jokes it’s never been about a plot, the ones that try to be about the plot accomplish that very well
@@fiveyup Such as the episodes in which some of the town is invited to that mansion for dinner then it turns into a murder mystery
Why is the plot such a focus for some people's criticism? Do you watch Family guy in the same way you're watching fuckin breaking bad? Just laugh and have fun, their intention isn't to throw you into a deep gripping story.
@@DsgSleazy I never said it's a focus but for an episode to exist on any level whatsoever there's got to be a plot of some sort.
@@Bluefire397 theirs a reason why it’s so successful lol i think family guys fine
You are an amazing analyzer. A real pleasure 🙏
Your analysis of Family Guy is a great example of "If you have to explain a joke, it's not funny..."
Exactly how I felt watching those stupid clips being overanalyzed lol
As the Joker once said, “If you have to explain a joke, THERE IS NO JOKE!”
They are trying to add onto the joke.. that’s the joke.. if they explain it it’s “weird and goofy”
That wasn't the contention, observation is, explaining a joke is not the same. Like you observing a car crash, versus explaining the physics as to why the cars crashed. Acknowledging something out of context doesn't mean it was explained. Pointing out a lack of correlation isn't explaining, UNLESS it was literally a situation where you required outside knowledge of the person place or thing being referenced, otherwise WITHOUT explaining, just experiencing IN CONTEXT doesn't require an explanation, just pointing out the variables WITHOUT its history or an explanation.
@@steveperson5686 okay… but a car crash is not art. comedy is art, so it is subjective, but there are also widely accepted rules.
the video is explaining that some people do like the cutaway scenes, but many don’t and many don’t get it. therefore, he’s explaining it. he wouldn’t need to explain it if it made sense from the beginning.
I think Peter fighting the chicken is a special category of aside. The first was definitely random, but now its much more of an established fact of the show that there's a chicken man out there, and its an established fact of Peter's character that they gotta fight when they cross paths
its not even funny .. relevant ot relatable..
its something you watch while you're high...
@@alexgarcia3610 I don't actually want that much relevant or relatable in my dumb cartoons. I'd rather watch something with a more serious tone and premise for relevant and relatable.
I do think, however, the Chicken Man bit is actually pretty funny. Its a solid example of a manifest contradiction between its undeniably goofy premise compared to the (relatively) grim depiction of the violence itself.
@@InvictusByz I actually like the chicken. It's so random but you get used to it after some episodes. Family guy doesn't make any sense and doesn't need to, the only thing it needs to do is entertain
@@InvictusByz watch the new episode of southpark.
i find the Prince of Canada and his wife wanting privacy while calling attention to themselves while doing so is a funnier example of manifest contradiction while also staying relevant with current events.
Family guy is just low-brow man.
@@alexgarcia3610 South Park is also low-brow, they just string it together more tightly. As I said though. I do NOT want relevant with current events in my dumb cartoons, I have serious shows written by much smarter writers for modern commentary.
And I can't agree that a non-internet example of the Streisand effect is actually a better manifest contradiction.
South Park is naturally funny they don’t have to make jokes while family guy makes countless jokes during each episode
I've never in my life laughed at south park i used to watch it because of shock value lol
@@slothstudiosfacundobenitez9749 just not ur humor ig. Ive never laughed at family guy but laughed at south park a lot
*respect my authorit'a!*
@@slothstudiosfacundobenitez9749 i used to watch it when i was younger for the shock factor, but now that im older i just watch it because it's entertaining
@@slothstudiosfacundobenitez9749 I love dark humour, so I do tend to like both at times, but South Park is more fun for me. It's a bit harsher as well lol
My favorite joke of self awareness on Family Guy was when Peter was hanging out with a group of women and realised they were talking shit behind his back. He set up a cutaway, it ends up being almost 2 minutes long and the first dialogue after it was:
"Lois! those women are horrible!" "Oh my god! what did they say?" "I can't remember, it was a very long cutaway...but they are mean!"
The decline in quality for Family Guy for later seasons has far more to do with a change in writing staff than it has to do with the cutaway gags.
Seth largely abandoned the writing team for Family Guy and most of the other good writers left. Meanwhile Matt and Trey are still the lead writers for South Park, and they have instilled their values into the rest of the current South Park writing staff.
Later seasons? It has always been a terribly bad written show. Even today's terrible Simpsons episodes have a way higher standard that the shit show that Family guy has always been.
Meat canyon “trapped in a family guy cutaway”
@@joseluki No it wasn't it became popular for a reason.
@@joseluki That's not true at all. Has it declined? Most definitely. Show me a series that's been on 20+ years that hasn't. But FG, despite it's flaws (which this video has done a very good job of pointing out), has been a consistently funny show. Just not to the level of South Park or American Dad. There is also a lot more competition now than before (Rick and Morty, Little Demon, Digman!, etc.) so when the newer episodes are compared with fresh shows, the decline appears more obvious.
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The thing is, the first few seasons of Family Guy weren’t just jokes without any substance. There were some really good episodes with well written stories where the characters weren’t just assholes for the sake of funny.
I definitely miss the old Family Guy, it was way better than what we have now.
I agree. The last cuople of seasons arent that good and if they keep going like that, the show will die for the.... third time?
The reason most tv series shows die miserable deaths is becaue after a season or two they run out of relevance. The world outpaces them. They can't keep up. This is the fault of the writers of course. That group of elites who are fixed in their opinons and cannot change.
The first few season were indeed good. After that it got really lazy.
god yes,specially when they try to put...memes...in the episodes...i get episodes get dated but you automaticly make those jokes WAY to dated,and they do it constantly now wich is just insulting @@Varnaj42
I like the opposite. For me that make family guy so different then all other shows and its creative to come up with such jokes that does not make sense to the previous. It is easy to link the dots but to think out of the box is extremely difficult. some may say its lazy not creative but its only show that has every done such things so how a unique masterpiece is same like others and lazy.
The cutaway gag has been funny. The original knee injury scene was amazing for how unexpected it was. The problem comes with reusing this over and over again. Once you expect subversion, it's not subversion and the gag loses its impact over time.
Yeah, that's why shows maybe shouldn't have 400 seasons
@@MrRedpanda2442it has 22 seasons my guy
Crying laughing the first time I saw that 😂
We STILL do that joke, my girlfriend and I. Also, when Lois forgot Point Break, that literally happened to me like a year before the episode. Sand movie.
Family Guy had some great cutaway jokes, really funny, but SP is just an unstoppable juggernaut of comedy genius. I think, for family guy to have kept the original hilarity that it had early on, they'd have to have Seth McFarlane directly involved in every single episode, just like Stone and Parker. They surround themselves with writers who they find funny, they get our humor, as I've said before, they're the KINGS of reading the room. They know what is funny to themselves, and to us.
After Seth left FG in the hands of everyone else,they couldn't replicate his humor. They tried, the bombarded us with cutaway gags (there is great video about the amount of cutaways and the declining humor of FG, here on TH-cam) and didn't truly understand what made the fans laugh. They still have their moments, but it's because we know and love the characters. A new show, doing the exact stories and jokes, in place of FG, likely wouldn't get a second season, while a new show, doing the exact jokes of SP, would likely do well, if it wasn't targeted for cancelation by a mob of offended idiots.
@@Chris-br6xg maybe, but the knee thing was funny. It might be a lazy way to fill time but, if someone is naturally funny and has comic timing, even a lazy joke can be hilarious. I mean, look at "The Jerk" one of my favorite comedies of all time. Half of the plot devices they use to progress the story are lazy contrivances that wouldn't work at all if they were telling a real story. Lazy writing isn't necessarily bad writing, especially in comedy. Besides, sometimes less is more. They could have taken time to fill that with a long, thought out cutaway, and I'd bet that it would be forgotten, like so many others. The knee endures because it's stupid, lazy, and super funny.
I was die hard South Park for ages but I recently started watching Family Guy from the start and I gotta say it's actually a lot better than a lot of people give it credit for. South Park always tackles the biggest topics and the most taboo subject matters, and they usually succeed but sometimes it can be catastrophic (never forget manbearpig.). Family Guy's good because you can just switch off your brain, forget about everything and have a laugh.
South Park is still the better and more rewatchable show overall just because it has better writing but Family Guy is still a good show. In my opinion it is actually a lot more consistent in it's quality, everyone seems to forget that there is a sizeable chunk of mediocre or even bad South Park episodes that absolutely no-one talks about. The difference being that when South Park gets it right it really, really gets it right. Family Guy is, or at least was (I haven't seen the newest seasons), more committed to fun than plot and impact, and I can respect that.
Whats wrong with Manbearpig? It's a great episode.
@@BL00DYME55 They denied climate change in that episode. Yes they apologised for it later but they did make a mistake
I'm convinced that the cutaway gags are to just make the episode run longer so they don't have to actually write more of the story.
as long as it's funny who even cares? As long as it's funny.
@@blaynestaleypro Not really, a show got to have some character development and storytelling, only putting jokes randomly do escape the plot is in my opinion lazy writing. If a show don't have any of this, than why remember the show itself?
@@blaynestaleyproProblem is most of it's not funny or it's forgettable.
@@Lcartner_because it was funny.
@@PvtPartzz then you will be remebering the jokes not the show, get it?
I think, ultimately, it comes down to this: Shoving irrelevant "pop-up" jokes into your story results in a problem: What happens when the joke isn't funny? Well, you get pulled out. The attention called by a bad joke to itself is far greater when the joke isn't related to the immediate plot. In South Park, if a joke doesn't land, you may not even notice, because it fits with the actions of the characters in the story being told to you. In Family Guy, you feel it. A bad joke lingers in your mind because it draws so much attention to itself by popping up so suddenly and randomly. At least in South Park, if a joke isn't funny, you aren't lingering on it because the context of the joke is relevant to the plot of the story.
Very well stated. I haven't liked Family Guy for years, since I stopped getting most of the pop culture references in the pop-up jokes.
In South Park if the main joke of the episode is not funny to you, the whole episode becomes a slog to get through
But the reverse issue is also true. If one Family Guy joke doesn't land, it doesn't matter as much because the next ones will be unrelated. If you don't find the core concept of a South Park episode funny, the whole episode won't be. There's merits and pitfalls of both approaches.
@@garrisonwhaley-sharp7676 I agree with this. Family Guy has so many jokes that if one completely falls for me the next one is already there and usually makes me laugh. Sometimes all South Park has is one joke and it isn't funny and it goes on and on and on because the story isn't that great if it hinges on a certain thing or joke.
yes EXACTLY! i feel like SP tosses a lot of stuff at you and it's fine to pick and choose what's funny. but in FG the jokes are in your face and bad ones just linger hard, or make you wait through them SP feels a lot more natural, and that you have a variety of things to take amusement from.
Parker and Stone clearly WORK at their craft harder. As in, they challenge themselves more, and that's probably their personality. It does remind me of earlier Simpsons, where the writers would spend hours honing in on a very short sequence of the show, to ensure that the jokes landed, and worked with themselves, to create a sequence of humorous events.
McFarlane is clearly influenced by the Zucker, Abrahams, Zucker writing team, where the absurdity would sometimes be integrated into the story, but sometimes just random. Take the movie Airplane, and Ted's cutaways about Elaine. Yes, they were relevant to the story, as in giving us backstory to the relationship, but so many of the jokes IN those cutaways had nothing at all to do with the story, and instead were sight gags, or just humorous wordplay.
Or the Police Squad show, where again the jokes would sometimes be integrated into the story, or sometimes just pure absurdist humor.
For me, Airplane and Police Squad (the show, not so much the movie) are brilliantly funny, even when it's randomness. Seth McFarlane is really, really influenced by that humor, and I think he's had moments of approaching that level. The thing is that he had to make it work for 20+ episodes over 20+ seasons, whereas the Airplane writing team, unfortunately, couldn't sustain that level of humor. So to give McFarlane some credit, he's really giving life to a formula that doesn't have 'that' long of a life expectancy.
With Parker and Stone, they don't have that kind of style, and they've really created their own brand of humor, which is groundbreaking. I think the South Park jokes resonate more, because they do end up being more insightful. Their entire take on Kanye West is STLL being frequently talked about, as is their take on Scientology, Mormonism, Censorship, Steroids, I mean, they really tackle so many topics, and do it almost flawlessly. Even if you disagree with their opinion, you have to admire their effort into making it poignant and humorous.
Both great for different reasons, and I obviously prefer South Park (by quite a bit), but do like Family Guy.
Yeah and it's very visible
Well said. South Park is not afraid to take on controversial topics and whilst a lot of its humour is very topical, as you've pointed out, the political debates they insert into their storylines is oftentimes *still* relevant, many years later.
You just showed me why I hate Family Guy. I hate Airplane and Police Squad too.
@@davidthedeaf Yeah, it's really similar to that kind of humor. It's all very disconnected, as South Park points out. In Airplane, you have the story, which was just taken from another movie, Zero Hour!. Then the jokes are kind of around that plot, but not really IN the plot.
I've been watching some earlier South Park episodes, and you can see the effort to make the jokes multilayered. Any given scene in South Park, you'll be laughing at multiple things happening on the screen.
I watched the High School Musical episode, and it's like 5 hours of humor squeezed into 22 minutes.
The Naked Gun movies are the pinnacle of comedic creation.
I usually prefer when there’s just one story going on, so I will watch South Park more, but one of my favorite family guy episodes is “and then there where fewer” it’s one story, and It doesn’t get distracted from that main story
Storytelling is storytelling and Comedy is Comedy. With these two shows it really comes down to what you value more. Do you want intelligent stories that are tightly comedic, or limitless goofy comedy with a loose story? It just comes down to a viewers preference.
This hits the nail on the head for me. They are two different shoes, for two different styles, and with two different functions. I enjoy both and if I get bored with one, I will just go to the other.
Underrated comment.
People love to pretend every single episode of south park aged well
@@longforgotten4823 stewie giving birth episode
Yes. It’s either you’re smart or you’re dumb. South Park = smart. Family = dumb
As a fan of south park over family guy, I think matt and trey’s criticism also says a lot about themselves. I think their criticism is valid for criticising bad story writing, but not necessarily bad comedy writing. And I think it’s obvious that South Park has been becoming increasingly more story driven at the expense of fewer comedic beats - though whether the comedy hits harder as a result is something that can be debated.
And your exactly right. Comedy is in the eye of the beholder. While SP is technically a better show, it's longevity is shorter. I say this in the terms of how many times can you watch the same season of SP. If I want a message great, but after the message is received then it's time to move on. They both have two very different comedy styles and should be treated as such. I personally love both, but if I'm looking for a quick laugh I will turn on family guy first.
Don’t start every sentence with “I think”
I love this comment. South Park is random, with farrrrrrrrr more continuity between jokes and main story points. However, I do believe the past few seasons/specials have been more pop culture focused, rather than concepts. Explaining Stan seeing everything turning to shit as he gets older will be easier to explain to a teenager 30 years from now as opposed to the streaming wars special.
South Park got worse over time because they started extending story lines. Imagine if Asspen was an entire season, etc. I love them to death, but the single-story bangers that aren't based on the news are by far their best work.
I think it’s also important to note that Seth Mcfarlene had stepped away from Family Guy as a writer for quite some time. He’s the creator and principal voice actor, but hasn’t contributed in the writing room for many seasons.
(He’s even alluded to his own dissatisfaction with the direction the show has taken)
He was definitely the head writer in 06 though
He stepped away cause he was filming movies and had other projects he wanted to work on. He pretty much handed the show over to Fox at that point and let the writers have full control
@@phillipmorgan4627 he's only ever written 3 full episodes
@@phillipmorgan4627 He stopped of work in the show at the season 6 please
And you can say me who is the fucking writer who wrote this episode where Quagmire killed the Simpson family
I love every season of SouthPark, but one of their issues with jokes I've noticed is repeatedly "Beating the dead horse". This trope is itself referenced in the episode involving Jared from Subways Aids.
Basically, pretty much every episode of SouthPark has one central joke that is repeated throughout. Jared's Aids, The Police Chief having sex with clients while undercover as a prostitute, Kyles's dad cheesing, etc. This main joke of the episode is played at least 3 times an episode with slight variation. Sometimes the jokes are the same, sometimes it involves different characters, or it will subvert the joke or even take the joke to it's extreme.
Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, and I started to really notice this trend around Southparks later seasons where there was some continuity in the story that kind of made the dead horse beating of the jokes not really work sometimes.
Trey parkers voice performance is what sold me on south park. Cartman and randy are just too good imo.
Then his singing... just awesome. The amount of overall VAs and the 6-days-to-air is what make this show the best for me.
Nothing gets reworked... there just isn't time for that. And that gave us plenty of episodes that probably would've never aired if they were made in a bigger timeframe. It's just south park, that's why i love it. ^^
I want a whole episode of just them showing voice recording outtakes lol it seriously looks like it would have its fun moments working with Matt and Trey
@@Chicken_Wing91 According to them they hate second takes so maybe there aren't even that many outtakes... but i still agree.
Seeing them laugh and pointing out how stupid it is puts me to the floor every time :D
@@chrisakaschulbus4903 there could be outtakes of them fumbling their lines. Their hatred of retakes is talking about the “once more, with feeling!” Kind of retakes.
How is this even an argument, South Park is without even a Doubt king of roasting everyone.
Yeah but it’s strange that they seem to have a big ego around the show. Seth Macfarland had nothing but good things to say about the show.
@@Afterasilence ego is big amongst everyone, Seth is maybe more humble about it then we realize.
Is “roasting people” really the pinnacle of comedy? South Park doesn’t even tell jokes. They just do outlandish stuff and assume the viewer will find it funny because of how absurd the situation is. As bad as family guy is, they at least have a structure to their jokes.
@@Go_away_loser I think the pinnacle is what it is for you. Sure sometimes are funnier in general but it's still subjective.
@@Go_away_loser Dude are you having a stroke? South Park is way more clever than family guy lol
Seth claiming his style is more difficult is ridiculous. You can literally have writers who's sole job is to just come up with their 5-10 second cutaway gags and you can have 100's of them saved and pick and choose from them for each show.
It's so ridiculous that it's offensive. It's me struggling to draw stick figures saying it's harder than Rembrandt making some masterpiece.
Exactly, you can literally just have a funny thought at any moment of the day then jot it down and save it for time filler when you need it
You think that's bad, what about the time I hired a writer and instead got Gary Coleman dancing the mamba on Mars?
why dont you do it then
Bro uses 5 looping animations and calls it difficult
The worst episodes of South Park are still better than the best episodes of Family Guy.
In my opinion I wouldnt want to compare those shows. They’re both unique and have different styles. BUT they also both work in their own way. I love family guy‘s randomness but also love south park's storytelling. Both can be complicated in the creation progress
Exactly
That's why Trey and Matt are wrong. Their argument isn't "Both shows are fine, ours is just better" which may be true, it's; "family guy is terrible", which is incredibly stupid
The second he starts listing similarities and showing the examples side by side, it sealed it for me. The South Park equivalents are just packed with context, backstory and layered social commentary.
Family guy is just fast food, and the most IN YOUR FACE commentary I've ever seen. Never noticed it until now.
One sided video for simple minded individuals
@@coolkid7151 not really, they were compared in a pretty fair way imo
@@abrupta bad comparison…
I’m at the point of the video of those comparisons. I never knew why I didn’t like family guy…this showed me.
I hate South Park because I think it’s crass. I hate Family guy because it’s like listening to a conversation of high school children. Sometimes there are theme but veers of into giggles and an inside joke that only two of them understand.
@@Juicetheeunuch
Irony is, Family Guy is typical of afult comedy though. Tim and Erjc and Eric Andre is like Family Guy in sense of futaway gags and the demographic who likes this are ironically older than high school.
South Park is one of the best shows to ever exist. Family Guy was my favorite show for a long time but South Park has always been better.
Brilliant writing and storytelling combined with the wildest jokes they can possibly get away with involving the most controversial subject at whatever time the episode was made pretty much.
I’m sorry one of the best shows have you every heard of always sunny or the wire stop trying to prop up as South Park as one of the best shows ever
@@caseycostello4357o show could even hope to have a chance at competing with South Park
Watch boondocks
@@caseycostello4357🤡
Family guy was better, for the first three seasons and then never again.
Family Guy is like a kids show but the innuendos for the adults watching are on the nose
Another thing I love about South Park is that nobody is safe. Everyone (myself included) has watched an episode and secretly felt a little attacked. 🤣 😅
Me and Scott Makinson have something in common. A lisp😂
@@grantrobey4997 “I’m Scott Malkinson and I have diabetes” lol.
I might have no self-awareness but i cant remember ive tried that. I can relate to Nathan though xd
Everybody gonna catch these hands.
When Token was first introduced
Kinda the problem I had as a European watching Family Guy was all the American references. I didnt know most of the stuff they were referencing. Meanwhile South Park doesn't rely on that. If you understand the reference, it makes it funnier like Tom Brady's poop being like the spice from Dune.
Yeah it’s not even American(born and raised on the west coast) it’s more east coast/New England references which unless you lived in that area you won’t get,hell even I don’t get it sometimes
That’s a great point I love family guy to this day but I still don’t get every reference living in the states does help understanding most
Yep I'm Australian so a lot of the jokes don't land with me, where as south Parks jokes seem timeless and there's just so many little things that even if I don't get a reference, there's other jokes packed in that I can laugh at
some jokes i got more lost in south park than family guy ever. like when they are telling a guy is a fish.
@@OuroBoros_Games fish sticks.
ive been watching both shows since i was a teenager. Im 37 now. i grew out of family guy in my 20s but i still watch south park to this day because the show grew up too.
Well said
I used to love family guy, and the older I got, the worse the show seemed. I really hate it now, and I can't stand the cutaway gags.
Whereas Family Guy aged like an oyster locked in a car on a hot day.
American Dad, on the other hand... classic
same here, i still think some of the jokes and gags Family Guy had were funny, i never thinking about rewatching an episode from it (still watch American Dad sometimes though) but South Park i can pretty much always go back to and still laugh at something
Same here I grew out of family guy. But South Park is lived here and I’m in my 40’s
It's pretty clear the South Park creators could easily replicate a Family Guy episode. Good luck to Seth and his team doing the opposite.
Seth hasn't worked on family guy's writing since I was a baby, lmao.
@@DsgSleazy the point is even if he did they'd have no chance.
@@frodofraggins Why would they try to write for a show that their better than? Family Guy got these grown writers in their feelings just by existing. Seth could care less about South Park, Simpsons, and King Of The Hill. These shows on the other hand are obsesed with Family Guy.
@@x-man9473 LOL. Family Guy is trash with maybe one funny segment or skit per episode. It has the laziest writing of the shows you've mentioned.
@@frodofraggins And yet, its so successful, they got you bitching about it, got TH-camrs makin 30+ minute videos dissecting it, and got other popular cartoon tv shows making the series the center of attention in their own universe.
For something that's supposedly trash, you seem to be obsessed with it. lol
Seth always said family guy was never meant to be anything more than a show that makes you laugh as much as possible in 30 minutes. I like both South Park and family guy but I don’t see why some people think one should not exist or is less legitimate than the other. I think they both have earned their place
The difference is family guy is like a bunch of one liners thrown together as part of a story to be funny and south park is an entire story that's funny
Just not quite *as* funny.
@@villiamo3861 so jokes with a purpose instead of jokes to just be funny. If you think family guy is funnier then I guess you IQ is below 90 😂😂
Yeah duh that's what the entire video is about. Useless comment
@@madamebutterfly851 Hahha
@@madamebutterfly851youtube commenter finds out about summarizing
How to write a Family Guy episode:
"Hey Louis, remember when i did X thing?"
And rinse and repeat
strawman argument go brrrr (south park is still better than family guy but at least view family guy correctly)
I dont get why this do this, as the have american dad which is a much better show...
Bro didnt even watched the video 💀
I think people are forgetting that family guy was making those numbers, if it sells it sells,
And you can't tell me south park is the more quote-un-quote "intelligent" show with as many poop jokes they've got, south park can be a silly show too
@@PalomasMusic666 I think you haven't actually watched south park if you think they make a bunch of poop jokes. They literally make a parody of people with you exact comic for many of the first few seasons
There's something that should be focused on more in all of this and that is Seth McFarlane's own role in Family Guy. Whether or not you believe that Seth is funny, there is no doubt that he is EXTREMELY self-aware. This comes through in several ways - some jokes breaking the fourth wall to criticize the show/its audience or even using the joke itself to criticize its own construction (such as the Conway Twitty Jokes) - but most interestingly through the character Brian. Brian, being the only character of the many that Seth voices that uses Seth's natural speaking voice, is an ironic depiction of the writer in his own world. In Season 8, Seth eventually brings the self-hatred of his character to the forefront of the show through the episode on 'Wish it, Want it, Do it' where Brian, a writer, is humiliated when he creates a shitty yet very successful work. This is an obvious self-commentary on Family Guy's own criticisms. What's more, this character trait of Brian's is never resolved - Seth never goes "well actually I am a good writer!" or tries to redeem Brian in any way. Brian becomes a figurehead for all of Seth's own self-criticisms/awareness. So where does he go from there? Well, by the 11th season as Seth wishes to divorce himself from Family Guy and Fox, he makes the choice to kill Brian i.e. kill himself in his own show. It turns out that it was 'coincidentally' Seth's plan to hang up Family Guy after Brian's death, but Fox had other plans and forced Family Guy to keep being milked (just as they did with the Simpsons). Today, Seth plays very little part in Family Guy other than the iconic voices, and the edge, wit and genuine humor that characterized much of the first four seasons is long gone as Seth disappears. It cannot be understated just how much of an impact Seth had on what make Family Guy Family Guy.
Watching the newer episodes I did think that the writing changed
@@papasmurf9205 for me, when Brian died it was the end of what made family guy good. After that, the jokes weren’t funny to me and family guy was like any other crappy adult cartoon. No uniqueness, no rebellious or risky writing, it’s just a few left leaning jokes and physical comedy and no good storyline
I do remember that episode and your theory makes tons of sense. I wonder if Simpsons have the same quality from before. Its been a while since I watched South Park but I love professor PC and so on
Seth mcfarlane doesn’t even write for family guy
@@Ikram-pb8wb I think he probably has some input despite what might be said around
Few people consider the educational nature of South Park. I've learned a great deal from South Park. I always watched it with Dutch subtitles, and one day I noticed that the subtitles were turned off without me realizing it. Thanks to South Park, I learned English! Besides English, I also learned a lot about American customs, trends, and cultural aspects. For example, I knew nothing about Mormonism. After an episode, I would Google to what extent their satire was based on truth. I am forever grateful to Trey Parker and Matt Stone.
I like to think of Family Guy like a conversation you have with your friends, you may have a theme on which all of you can learn something, but the main point is just having a fun time and laugh a bit. The conversation is constantly deviating from the point and you may find yourself on a whole another theme, but that’s what makes it fun most of the time.
South Park is like a lesson being given by a really fun and crazy teacher, it keeps a theme throughout all of its duration that will make you question or learn about something and is constantly being taught in the form of jokes. It may lack that chaotic energy that makes you feel like your having a good time, but it makes up for it by being funny in a smart-built structure that is able to entertain just as much.
In the end it comes down to viewer preference, I prefer having dumb fun so I enjoy Family Guy the most, but I can appreciate South Parks more smartly told comedy.
Well said
Yes laugh laugh at all the abuse and people being complete shitholes to meg for no reason the griffins just as aren't good people
@@flamebreaker7318 dubious opinion
I always loved South Park for it's (often missed) intelligence and perceptiveness. I could tell I wouldn't feel that way about Family Guy when I first heard about it and saw bits and pieces. This just confirms how I've always felt.
the fact of the matter is most people are too young or whatever else you may say to actually understand south park, i started watching when i was like 15 and am now 19 and i still go back and say like oh i understand this now or i find humor in new things because i am actually learning stuff about society, the past in general (i mean south park is predicated to the current news of its timeframe since the 90s) and just stories that actually get you thinking
Don't recall ever laughing whilst watching Family Guy- though I never go out of my way to watch it. The Simpsons was excellent for the first 200 episodes, then it just died straight off- no drawn out death- just very good to bad. Corporate greed demanded an episode a week when it was infinitely better when it was seasonal. The Seth Macfarlane set up is the same throughout all of his cartoons- talking baby- talking dog, talking alien- talking goldfish, talking bear... You get the point. Short memory small laughs.
@@awesomemohawk4511 That's how I feel about Calvin and Hobbes. I understood very little of it when I was 6 or so, and loved going back throughout my childhood and slowly understanding more and more of it. South Park is the Calvin and Hobbes of adult cartoons
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@@awesomemohawk4511 I think you are right, I felt I was too old when it came out I was 19 and I just felt too mature to watch something that looked like it was more for kids. If as a 19 or now 44 year old I would get a lot of story, but at younger age I wouldn't have. From what little I have seen it has quite good writing but with a sensibility that is going to repel many with the IQ to actually appreciate that intelligent writing.
The Simpsons did cutaway gags really well between around season 4-9, they solved the issues mentioned here. In $pringfield Homer has a false memory about Marges reaction to the proposed casino, it's cutting away to something else, but it is still relevant to the story.
One of the most funniest jokes in the entire series, is in the Cartridge Family, where the section of the story that showcases Homer acting irresponsible with his new gun. He walks into the Kwik-E-Mart twirling it around, Apu assumes it is a robbery, Homer is about to explain before he stops and thinks about what would happen if he did rob the place which triggers the cutaway. However instead of going back to the story like it never happened, Homer makes up his mind only to realise that he is now leaving the Kwik-E-Mart.
I have a photographic memory!
i dont really enjoy the simpsons as much as i used to
Yes, Simpsons cutaways are just fantasies or daydreams that are directly related to what the character is doing, not some random "imagine if" - showing something not funny or clever, just really weird.
Before I watch the vid for me it...
Family Guy. you remember skits.
South Park.... Make a memorable skit an entire episode.