I found an interesting way to play Invoker

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  • @datohleonggez
    @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว +35

    guys! sign up and try to beat the rank 1 guy on every monthly tournament rpt.gg/dotahleondota2
    wait.. why is the link called datohleon 🤨

    • @armanillo4695
      @armanillo4695 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wish you didn't promote this dogshit betting service that promotes people to be bad actors in games in order to win some money

    • @alexreiner2658
      @alexreiner2658 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      when is the correct time to take talent?

    • @onebaliwgg8206
      @onebaliwgg8206 ปีที่แล้ว

      can you make item and skill guide for this? like torte guide

  • @null5241
    @null5241 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Babe, wake up, datoh uploaded a new vid

    • @ibrahimsalman5504
      @ibrahimsalman5504 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wake up, you dont have a girl

    • @ronaldodiaz4748
      @ronaldodiaz4748 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Literally me, from archon 5 to legend 5 almost ancient with sf build by dotaleong

    • @petkofuchalski9809
      @petkofuchalski9809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ibrahimsalman5504 projecting much?

    • @waynewynnx7976
      @waynewynnx7976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ibrahimsalman5504 Hahahaha 😂🤣

    • @nanyabiznus4738
      @nanyabiznus4738 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@petkofuchalski9809 splash of reality

  • @eiatot6455
    @eiatot6455 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I recommend casting Coldsnap before Tornado so you secure some extra stuns frames for the Meteor to land, this frames can sometimes be used by the victim to avoid a big chunk of the combo.
    Also there are basically 4 different ways to cast Deafening Blast after Tornado by changing the angle but mostly the timing you can make the Def Blast push the enemy Forwards ( without thinking, enemies taking about 80% max dmg out put, this will be affected by the enemy move speed ), Backwards ( if too early and you make them hit it with its tail ), Perfectly synced & aligned with the Meteor's rolling ( if still affected by Coldsnap, this will most likely be the case but you need to mind the timing ) or as a Cross section if u dont have access to Coldsnap and need to compensate for the enemies' most probable scape route.

    • @miglehp4592
      @miglehp4592 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he casts coldsnap after tornado but before the tornado projectile lands, meaning he gets more uptime from the coldsnap while still getting the first stun as soon as they land from the tornado.

    • @eiatot6455
      @eiatot6455 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@miglehp4592 CS first tick secures obvious or forced tornados, else people can react with a force staff.
      What u are saying is good but it all depends on what u need to prioritize

  • @arsenusthearsenalswagus4200
    @arsenusthearsenalswagus4200 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    This will less likely work if you dont have a friend that will help you lane and farm safer. Random people will outright refuse to help you lane or farm when you pick like that, because they rather believe youre throwing than believe that you are serious with your pick.

    • @vio55
      @vio55 ปีที่แล้ว

      then just play mid and pretend u are a drow mid

  • @protkeyt
    @protkeyt ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Man, I knew this was doable but it had to have a specific early build and behavior.
    THANK YOU 💕

  • @pramadanaagsha3943
    @pramadanaagsha3943 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    You know you make a good content when i only see your video popped on my feed and i already start smiling. Good job datoh!

  • @jhdivina
    @jhdivina ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Wish more people played dota. This channel is underrated af

    • @Theresnoname8876
      @Theresnoname8876 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      wow new invoker playstyle(open steam friendlist)
      My Friendlist:3999days online ago

    • @amamamiamh1619
      @amamamiamh1619 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Game is dying, not newcomer friendly as well, old player have that toxic mentality...
      Unfortunately that'll kill people in long term

    • @MinesCafeOHG
      @MinesCafeOHG ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amamamiamh1619 part of it is from "forfeit in captain mode only" so all pick or ranked, hostage in fountain farming and "comeback is real", not everyone likes sweaty ass games every single time believing there's a chance

    • @sobbiess
      @sobbiess ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I am a new player that joined 3 weeks ago, I can tell you about newcomer POV.
      - Game is toxic
      - Everyone is spamming annoying voice messages
      - Everyone inside is already quite experienced with the game and I got rekted most of the time
      - Why is there no vote based surrender like League? (Especially when DotA takes longer to end a game)

    • @jhdivina
      @jhdivina ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @sobbiess there is a mute option, which i find helpful to make my games less toxic. Also, i don't come across much toxicity, and i play in SEA. Just mute the noisy ones and play your game.

  • @bloppdota2
    @bloppdota2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    i played nearly exactly that item build on invoker 10 years ago back in dota 1 & only used forged spirits/meteor/alacrity & sometimes sunstrike😄

    • @Gabriel.Q
      @Gabriel.Q ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Don't forget the alacrity cold snap + MOM build. That shit was broken once upon a time

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      invoker's recent talents made him a beast at carrying

    • @yoink9148
      @yoink9148 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      back in the day its bad, its only good now because of the changes and talents that amps his orbs.

    • @mrhs-oe4mu
      @mrhs-oe4mu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@yoink9148 invoker hitter build is so common back days 😅 you just need to set up with ghost walk and buy mom + bkb/orchid + cold snap + forge spirit

    • @mirceadanila865
      @mirceadanila865 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This type of voker was op since dota 1 days, when i also played ss+ fs + exort + alacrity and buriz + mom + ac..good old 10+ years old s**t

  • @kaelxeth
    @kaelxeth ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This was quite popular years ago, especially with the AC - Forge Spirit right click is underated, back then we used to build basilus just to strengthen the spirits, nice content as always!

    • @beoptimal8650
      @beoptimal8650 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      forge spirits+necrobook+forcestaff

    • @kaelxeth
      @kaelxeth ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beoptimal8650 good old days, where invoker is a furion with spells

  • @kuysrengkuo7042
    @kuysrengkuo7042 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He is like the Ph. D of dota writing a paper about hero and skills. Intro, theory and example, evidence and conclusion. Win or lose, he proved it convincingly.

    • @MegaPhill93
      @MegaPhill93 ปีที่แล้ว

      this deserve more like

  • @Kuantatmeng709394
    @Kuantatmeng709394 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much fun seeing this type of invo again, last time i have a friend that play the exact playstype but still midlane, rushing sb, burize, bkb, skadi and AC, and cold snap alacrity is his friend, it was fun seeing him melting the opponents, just that us supports have to play all the fat heroes

  • @tobovikiho1538
    @tobovikiho1538 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tat first pick got me 🤣🤣🔥 lucky u!!

  • @roy-ic8ok1dt4f
    @roy-ic8ok1dt4f ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had to say I love your videos! they are super funny and helped me get from 2k to 4k mrr

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      thank god cuz most ppl will say they lose after using it haha

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine being 4k mmr lol your so bad noob 😊

  • @gandammuu4063
    @gandammuu4063 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my friend use to play invoker like this back in dota 1, he goes helm of dominator to bring cents and lifesteal then buriza for damage then cuirass and deso for armor melter

  • @danver555
    @danver555 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is crazy! ^^ Im gonna try this build rn

  • @justinlavelle9353
    @justinlavelle9353 ปีที่แล้ว

    was looking for some tips on my void vs ember mid....that was like 6 vids ago. love your stuff m8. your videos i mean o.o;

  • @natosen
    @natosen ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You know something is wrong if you play in SEA but everyone are nice to you

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ikr, i expect to hvae ppl flame me but most people trust me idk why

  • @eyriemalevoire
    @eyriemalevoire ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I did play invoker safe lane back then. It was on 1-4-4 build that has Madness and Crystalys, with Alacrity and Cold Snap to start team fight, you just right click stuff.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's unlikely to work now, double forge too valuable 😅

    • @alexkroeger4113
      @alexkroeger4113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it could work if you have your support to stack for you, so you can take it with meteor and deafening blast.
      if you want to fight, you can buy Diffusal blade and use ghostwalk, it's fast bcs of Wex. Diffu > Meteor > Alacrity would be enough. You don't wanna use Cold snap bcs it's bad at lvl 1 Quas.
      you keep farming until you get gleipnir. After this everything is the same regular invoker.

    • @orven_lou
      @orven_lou ปีที่แล้ว

      1-4-4 is not a good build, double forge will always be better not to mention cold snap with lvl 1 quas is too weak

  • @gamingpapajohn
    @gamingpapajohn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You deserve way more than 95k subs dude.

  • @rifwann
    @rifwann ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is how i play it first time, its morphling but simpler.. i was afraid to do it again due to the pubs expectation.

  • @bxrxxy
    @bxrxxy ปีที่แล้ว

    5:04 tide be like: heeey, be careful man!

  • @Philosjutsu
    @Philosjutsu ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember using this a long time ago. I remember using Eul's to shore up the combo and give bonus move speed for regen. I tell people invoker can basically play any role. Noobs don't know.

  • @kuro91000
    @kuro91000 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    1. Watch this video
    2. Gets hype
    3. Find match
    4. Feed
    5. Get reported
    This is me every time DATOHLEONG post a new video.

    • @ronaldodiaz4748
      @ronaldodiaz4748 ปีที่แล้ว

      U dont know how to play bruv

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว

      6. get out of low prio
      7. watch next video

  • @aysargha
    @aysargha ปีที่แล้ว

    nice plays. commenting for the algorithm

  • @nathan2964
    @nathan2964 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now im inspired to play pos1 invoker in my ranks and ruin my team’s day :)))) tnx for the content

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว

      nOOO its play to win! 😅

    • @nathan2964
      @nathan2964 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@datohleonggez bro the problem is, not every player has the same lvl of game skills you have to win these games XD
      But yeah I understand ure doing it for content. Im a fan!

  • @haihi877
    @haihi877 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I don't know who you are but your vids keep showing and I always click every single one of em.
    Not only you're entertaining to watch, you're actually very good at the game.
    +1 fan

  • @azy3929
    @azy3929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good guide on voker

  • @onixforrealnow
    @onixforrealnow หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:40 that chess simp collab is crazy

  • @lolmoe
    @lolmoe ปีที่แล้ว

    Right click invoker is underrated. His physical attacks hurt so much with just the alacrity and forged spirits.

  • @teddyfot692
    @teddyfot692 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    long time fan here, datoleong have you tried boots of bearing? its perfect with certain matchup on invoker + synergy with forge spirit. You should check it out with enemies who likes to slow

  • @alexmurraypreece7405
    @alexmurraypreece7405 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well thanks for this I just had my invoker go 0-8 as pos1 in my game :D

  • @Troubledsham
    @Troubledsham ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool drow ranger build.

  • @jangofficial1571
    @jangofficial1571 ปีที่แล้ว

    Right Click build is here..love it🤭

  • @ursa81
    @ursa81 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video

  • @Moins
    @Moins ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content, keep it up

  • @jacktruong7151
    @jacktruong7151 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very entertaining to watch, just don't let my future teammates see this xD

  • @lukestclairmaitland3003
    @lukestclairmaitland3003 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I had very little success with your SF offlane idea, but im 2-0 so far with this build with most hero dmg both games. 500 games on invo is also helping ;D

  • @kei5149
    @kei5149 ปีที่แล้ว

    cant wait to see this on my pubs

  • @ciddhere
    @ciddhere ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wake up son, it's time for datohleong video

  • @raprap543
    @raprap543 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just in time for that Invoker cache set, for me to start ruining ranked pubs

  • @jcl1ent
    @jcl1ent ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay here we go!!!

  • @pSyberGamin
    @pSyberGamin ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats your take on witch blade? It provides mana att speed and works well with cold snap

  • @Serfdomftw
    @Serfdomftw ปีที่แล้ว

    Instead of getting falcon get urn, similar mana regen and stats, but gives urn effect that combo with coldsnap.

  • @snowyowlgaming6690
    @snowyowlgaming6690 ปีที่แล้ว

    last game was great one. I watched every single sec.

  • @JohnSancti
    @JohnSancti ปีที่แล้ว

    7:58 when you wololoo enemy Tusk and is your side now...

  • @K1NNN
    @K1NNN ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you play pos 4 earth spirit?

  • @laiaa9178
    @laiaa9178 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10 games later
    -2k behavior score

  • @krstffrtejada6025
    @krstffrtejada6025 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still thanking for the meepo strat 💕 playing over a years. And now this 😈

  • @CultKosmosa
    @CultKosmosa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank god there are subtitles

  • @Andytlp
    @Andytlp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is a more advanced sf pos 1 and not as easy to pull off. Although just alacrity, forge spirits and cold snap can work in low pubs

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah basically sf/drow but with spells

  • @mrsmile5009
    @mrsmile5009 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes, the good old invoker, magician on steroids.

  • @wyvern5400
    @wyvern5400 ปีที่แล้ว

    imagine if Mask of madness doesnt silence the user like years ago, my calendar would go back to the first dota days lmao

  • @orangoon1
    @orangoon1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yea dude whenever I went into exort I always thought like it's a waste building into spell heavy items with all these right clicks

  • @walkhardwalk
    @walkhardwalk ปีที่แล้ว

    team dk/burning ran safelane invo back in the days, I don't know why it was never used in tournaments again

  • @filteroxic
    @filteroxic ปีที่แล้ว

    13:08 me too bro . . . me too

  • @mrlicht2454
    @mrlicht2454 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im doing this build way back when playing dota 1

  • @chynarasan9924
    @chynarasan9924 ปีที่แล้ว

    time to watch my team doing similar thing but with rapier feed

  • @rize8393
    @rize8393 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is really very interesting

  • @thisisjeff2817
    @thisisjeff2817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i remember dota 1 AI invoker use manta and deso

  • @aouka6060
    @aouka6060 ปีที่แล้ว

    you miss the desolator, im often used this kind of build AND YES wit this build i met am with black mail

    • @aouka6060
      @aouka6060 ปีที่แล้ว

      *blade mail

  • @pisonetcoin5012
    @pisonetcoin5012 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna see you play Weaver pos 1.

  • @nowalk7590
    @nowalk7590 ปีที่แล้ว

    LET'S GOOOOO!!! NEW DATOH VIDEO!!

  • @moonyou.
    @moonyou. ปีที่แล้ว

    datohleong ,i hope to see a '10 plays you missed at the TI 11 Finals' or something like that soon. I hope u read my comment as i really enjoy ur content.💕

  • @krozilow
    @krozilow ปีที่แล้ว

    when i play dota 1 using invoker, i just using alacrity coldsnap and forgespirit, and early item is midas dominator pt, coz dominator in dota 1 give 20damage and lifesteal

  • @hardn8251
    @hardn8251 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remind me the old auto attack invoker during Dota 1 era

  • @johnbryandelacruz3200
    @johnbryandelacruz3200 ปีที่แล้ว

    not only invoker tho but any hero u can use core items just like dota 1

  • @Crixxtachi868
    @Crixxtachi868 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would adding wraith pact be a good move too?

  • @tomato2699
    @tomato2699 ปีที่แล้ว

    im going to try this at unranked :D

  • @Bastawesy
    @Bastawesy ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally I was getting bored playing invoker normally

  • @jassonsatria7737
    @jassonsatria7737 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 4:38 u also got bonus attack speed from drow ult right?

  • @SomeKrazyDude4
    @SomeKrazyDude4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude you are so good 🙂

  • @sorenyuki9303
    @sorenyuki9303 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched this for guilty pleasure.

  • @madaabdo1700
    @madaabdo1700 ปีที่แล้ว

    I promise i will try this

  • @dsr3b
    @dsr3b ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to do this alacrity build with madness and malevolence. It was pretty nuts. Really high dmg. Glass cannon tho.

    • @melancholy9236
      @melancholy9236 ปีที่แล้ว

      it was so good with bloodthorn

  • @ApexFungi
    @ApexFungi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i hal also being asking higher rank players why nobody use invo spells as utility not as main dmg deal.
    Thank you for this.

  • @GameSplained
    @GameSplained ปีที่แล้ว

    Invoker Attack Range/animation is nuts as well as the quas exort abuse. Ive seen ppl do this but it literally will not work in 4k lower due to the mentality of the trench goers.

  • @delmoneto
    @delmoneto ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG THANK YOU! O always have a fucking invoker in my team making my game hell, mid, sup 4,5, offlane, and now im going to have a fucking CARRY INVOKER, THANK YOU SIR

  • @itzbrilliant8386
    @itzbrilliant8386 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bei solchen Themen frage ich mich immer ob man nicht in der falschen Zeit geboren ist.
    Wir sind zu spät geboren um die unentdeckten Orte der Erde zu entdecken, aber zu früh geboren um das Weltall zu erkunden. In 1000 Jahren könnte die Venus bewohnbar sein oder in 100 Jahren vielleicht die erste Stadt auf dem Mars stehen. Doch mit Blick auf die Informatik denke ich, dass wir genau in der richtigen Zeit leben.
    Wir bekommen gerade hautnah die Technologiesierung unserer Erde mit. Und nicht nur das. Laut Prognosen werden wir miterleben, dass die Intelligenz von KI die der Menschen übertrumpfen wird. Wenn das nicht unglaublich spannend ist, weiß ich auch nicht weiter :D
    Wir leben nicht in der falschen Zeit, wir müssen einfach nach Genialität ausschau halten... Genialität, die wir zu häufig einfach mit Alltag verwechseln!
    Jede Zeit ist spannend!

  • @DevilPissedOff
    @DevilPissedOff ปีที่แล้ว

    The only problem I have with many of your strats, is that I don´t play as well as you xD. Don´t think i can pull them of. Nice video though

  • @Klimbo93
    @Klimbo93 ปีที่แล้ว

    i mean cool, but most times the hero doesnt shine by itself
    the build works cause you get tuskm legion and marci to buff you hard time, while pulling everyone's attention

  • @miglehp4592
    @miglehp4592 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should revisit this now that invoker is universal this will probably be even stronger now.

  • @frostyd0052
    @frostyd0052 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is dota 1 build for kar-el. but nice video , good explanation and good effort on finding higher damage compared to standard build invoker

  • @aadishankar3474
    @aadishankar3474 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wish i can play voker like this

  • @VongolaSekundes
    @VongolaSekundes ปีที่แล้ว

    could we replace the daedelus with bloodthorne? which is better?

  • @toshiiscrazy
    @toshiiscrazy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay, back to playing.

  • @DVSchool
    @DVSchool ปีที่แล้ว

    shadowblade first item and gank with forge spirits is op

  • @whalehacker2431
    @whalehacker2431 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this was made in herald unranked dont try yourself at home

  • @jromeeyjaidin5339
    @jromeeyjaidin5339 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do meme in 11k mmr gme..u really the real content creator..I done subscribe

  • @loz1610
    @loz1610 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People will just straight throw or tilted when they see unfamiliar hero in some certain role.
    You will lose a lot. And thats not because hero is not good but the people are just too closed-minded.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that use to happen but recently i don't get many pubs cry about hero picks. mayb because a lot of heroes are slowly getting figured out to play differently, it becomes more accepting? idk

  • @kazazaky2397
    @kazazaky2397 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its just too bad i can't PLay Invoker XD ,Good play as always man

  • @winkythepooh
    @winkythepooh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    may i ask a genuine question? in this build, is witchblade not better? seems like this build wants to fight more as a carry rather than sitting on jungle farming?
    this video is very fun might try to improve my invo skills and try it out sometime.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      witch blade is commonly seen on mid, my idea is the have lance eventually become pike for more mobility. then most items are build to carry late game. high physical burst can melt buildings/rosh and scale, the rest of the items are build to be really tanky so i can stand my ground and fight

  • @darkdemon1676
    @darkdemon1676 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Datohleong wey is at revelation level, nota mere way.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว

      i like to find new ways to play old heroes

  • @Hung4086
    @Hung4086 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's me in the video

  • @potpot439
    @potpot439 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouldn't wraith band instead of null talisman also be an option(like depending who you lane against? i mean voker has already pretty decent rightclick damage, and the asp bonus and the armor from wb might be usefull for him if he has to sustain alot of physical damage harrass, especially against armor reduction, or controlled units or something. Just food for thought.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i tried before, wraith band right clicks are stronger but usually get run down when I don't have enough mana to fight back, 1 null usually gives enough mana for early fights.(I could ice wall + sunstrike + cold snap + forge + occasionally meteor) i compared both builds and having mana is more valuable than having slightly more attack speed/right clicks

    • @potpot439
      @potpot439 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@datohleonggez Oh alright then, great build anyways :D I'd try it if i wouldn't have quit dota a few weeks ago haha

  • @ReSV1
    @ReSV1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was wondering why not Revenant's Brooch as well for invoker. Since it also deal damage and give slow for 4 secs

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      because i wanna build high physical burst + tank. can't get one shotted as a carry so most items are build to stand my ground and fight

    • @ReSV1
      @ReSV1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@datohleonggez Seen Topson playing that build as a right-click DPS similar to your style of play, but he went Brooch and Bloodthorn instead of the pure physical DPS like yours. Wondering if there is any difference

  • @muchammadyusuf2728
    @muchammadyusuf2728 ปีที่แล้ว

    instead go for middas, u should try miracle invoker mjolnir build, its old but maybe works

  • @jiegs9363
    @jiegs9363 ปีที่แล้ว

    SEA players watching this:
    Write that down, write that down!

  • @fadhlanrifaldi1664
    @fadhlanrifaldi1664 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to play this kind of build, but still suck mixing speel till now

  • @jaquinite
    @jaquinite ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My firend had a similliar build, but instead of falcon blade, he just bought the sage mask, to THREE GLOVES OF HASTE, that turns into threads and midas

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว

      that's not very tanky, safe lane voker are up against 2 heroes so need more health early

    • @jaquinite
      @jaquinite ปีที่แล้ว

      @@datohleonggez he still goes for sticks and null

  • @paperstars9078
    @paperstars9078 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can you make support alchemist work, maybe with 3 venge? Also carry/offlane maiden? her lvl2 is insanely strong!

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ye i think support alche is possible

    • @paperstars9078
      @paperstars9078 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@datohleonggez I have given this some thought, and I think a reasonable goal is to have the enemy be so afraid of you that you can just hide in the trees/to the side of the lane and the enemy is to afraid to even pull aggro.
      I learnt that most of the time a slow is enough, because keeping enemies in acid longer is really strong. Your other hero needs to be somewhat tanky or you have to be very careful with them(venge/cm are strong but might die too quickly)
      A strong aghanim hero on your lane doesnt matter because chances are mid or carry will have a strong aghanim upgrade.
      You always want to get blink before aghanims since it allows you to stay relevant for a really long time.
      Basi + Mana boots into wraithpact is very playable although you might not get as many kills so it might not be as much fun(but still very fun)
      It doesn't really matter if the enemies have high armor, it only matters if they can avoid the stun.