Kyle Klein and the boys STRUGGLE on a brand new course | Austin Practice Round F9 | Jomez
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Tournament: 2023 The Open at Austin
Course: The Open Course at Harvey Penick | Austin, TX
BigSexyBarri: Jeremy "Big Jerm" Koling, Paul “Uli” Ulibarri, Nate "Sexy" Sexton
Guest: Kyle Klein
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@jomezpro So how does one find one of those hockey sweaters for purchase??
14:52 Kyle: “Is this foot golf? Foot golf!?”
Nate: “Second coolest golf. Disc golf gets third.”
Nate is hysterical 😂
Are we just glossing over the fact that Big Jerm stated "I wish more pants had big toe holes" ?! What kind of madness is that?
Yes. I am in fact going to pretend I didn't hear that
Let me vent.
So I keep seeing pros bring up the topic of holes on certain courses that are very tough for them to birdie such as hole 1, 6, 9 - and they come across as disappointed/frustrated/and confused. Now, don't get me wrong I am not a pro disc golfer and don't play these courses. BUT as a fan (especially as one coming from traditional golf) I DO enjoy watching pros play for par when par is very difficult to achieve. Those holes bring back the standard definition - the philosophical idea if you will - of what Par is. Par is supposed to be based on the standard amount of strokes a golf expert would require to take to complete a hole. Now, in my opinion, not only does this make par more exciting to watch but it also adds so much more value to what a Birdie is. I can understand when a hole is just flat out designed poorly, but to disregard a hole due to it being exceptionally hard/impossible to bridie is lame. I know some will say that the score doesnt matter and it is all relative, but based on my argument above I do think that lower birdies and more pars better suit the nature of the game. This is all my opinion, but I'd be glad to know what others think.
I think there's two different, but hard to disentangle criticisms. On the one hand, you have holes where pros will just say the par is "wrong" and they should increase it. On that I agree with you, and it's just sort of grousing.
On the other hand, you can have a hole design that makes par very straightforward, while making birdie incredibly difficult to impossible. You still hear the same thing "it's hard to birdie this hole", but now imo that's a much more legitimate complaint about course design. Think about something like a wide-open, no OB, 700 ft par 3. That's going to create little to no score separation for touring pros, so why even play it.
My counter argument is that par is not hard to achieve in these holes at all. When birdie is nearly out of the question, par becomes the birdie and when it is incredibly easy to achieve the par the hole presents a multitude of issues
I think the problem is when par is easy to achieve, but birdie is unrealistic. Then everyone just lays up and it's boring and lame. This course looks like a lot of that to me.
@@bigjermdg Fair! And I appreciate the discussion. I do think the others that commented bring up great points that easy par & impossible birdie is boring. I would agree. I will have to disagree with you though that when birdie is out of the question, par becomes birdie. I don’t see why that is the case. Holes with challenging par (and impossible birdie) still make for exciting holes with separation potential.
The definition of good hole design from these guys is “normal or clear idea of what the shot is”. Idk if this course is good or not, but making people (supposed professional disc golfers) make choices to throw shots outside of your comfort zone is the future IMO. I like the old guard, but based on their perspective it made me wonder if the current game is passing them by
Would be nice to see the Tee Sign overlayed when describing the whole, especially on the new course. Brody and Ezra have it on their practice rounds. Make it easier to visualize
After this I think I’ve realized how much I want to watch the guys announce tournaments on courses they’ve never been to before.
Sometimes I've played a course I've never seen better than any time after. (for a while, at least)
Its cool to see one or two brand new courses we've never seen before on the tour each year
Agreed
That course Dylan Cease is building in Tuscaloosa needs to be a stop as soon as it opens
I agree, but it seems like this course kind of sucks ass. Maybe the back 9 is better
These guys never gave it a shot. They came here w a poor attitude of the course. I actually like watching the pros being pushed to make different shots. Not watching the same boring spike hyzer over & over. I haven’t enjoyed watching them react this negatively
@@toby1691 I agree on the different shot shapes but par 3s should be reachable for most of the field and par 4s/5s need landing zones that aren’t hemmed in by artificial OB. I want to see the pros throw aggressive shots accurately and be rewarded for them, not lay up a ton to avoid going over a painted line.
I think new courses are a good addition. Pros should be able to dissect a new course in a few rounds and come up with a game plan. Planning is a big part of the game that I think gets overlooked, instead of just playing basically the same courses year after year. Puts everyone basically on the same level at the start. No real advantage for players who've played an event for years or are a local to the area.
The best part of these practice rounds is watching Jerm be such a headcase on the greens that even player B misses the exact same way
I enjoy seeing the learning of a new course. Fun change of pace compared to classic course and breaking down just a few new updates. Excited to watch this weekend to see how things shake out and where people place.
Lets see how it plays out
Jerm shouting out Roy G was dope that is a really amazing course. Welcome to Austin guys!
13:41 Brad walking around the mandatory like a boss WHILE Jerm is explaining why to walk through it
True!
@@samueldaniel9584 I KNOW RIGHT
pecans in my personal platoon
wonderful reply bennett niemeyer, you really supplemented my enjoyment of this video. Thanks! Hooray!
@@harrytran5119 I love pecans
I really like practice round for the guest appearances of the other players out practicing, always like a little treat seeing or hearing some of my other favorite players. This time it was Ella and Thomas. The funniest ones are always when it's Eric Oakley.
Ella and Thomas running while Jerm chucks discs at them reminded me of that Bruce Willis movie, I think it was The Jackal. where he has the auto aiming turret or whatever.
Love you Uli. Season isn't starting as you wanted but you mean so much to so many. Thank you for everything you do for the sport.
I love the dripping distain for this course. They were making me laugh so bad. Sometimes that's how I feel at a course.
Yeah I'm glad they found a way to have fun with it, had me bust out laughing a couple times. Could have been a boring video otherwise.
The vibe seems a little uneasy on this one. Good on Nate for trying to keep it light-hearted.
Exciting having a new course. Also I really like how honest and analytical the guys get about what they like and don't like when playing this course
I loved the getting to the moon joke. Even better is that Nate was literally 1ft away from touching the moon at 44:38
Thanks for the extra cool shots on this one!!!We love when you guys try different shots for us.. roller, forehand, backhand on holes that might not be them 👍
Hope they keep this course open to the public for 1-2 weeks after the tournament. love playing golf and footgolf out at Harvey. Welcome to Austin!!!!
I wonder if they will keep the tee boxes. The look pretty solid.
The hole 6 shenanigans that totally broke all the guys had my dying alongside them XD
I like the champion groove. It helped me learn how to forehand
Yes Thomas Gilbert sneaking in a Jomez video.
Thomas sneaks into every video ever lol
I know he's struggled a bit on the green, but I love to see Big Jerm throw huge backhand shots - remember when Caroline was saying "Learn a backhand, it's your job" - well I guess he did!
Missed Mando - Best explanation of the rule that I've ever heard, done by Big Jerm at 13:32 (to 13:48).
Some of the holes are weird.. And I love it! Looking forward to see how the pros play this course.
Gotta Love those Wait a minute vines
Does not appear that anyone’s loving this one. Very curious to see how it plays out in the tournament.
They should have just used the local courses IMO. Roy G, Met Center, North Town, East Metro or even Old Settlers could have easily been used and Roy G Met and East Metro are basically Pro Ready right now. It is what it is. I'm still gonna be out there Saturday.
This is the only group not enjoying “themselves”? besides kyle, he really kept it together amongst the ignorance. Any of the other practice rounds I’ve watched seemed fun and I couldn’t wait to see the tourney start, today big germ big worm n big sexy seemed to be on the rag….take it easy fellas lighten up
The boys tend to get feisty when a new layout/course bites their style. I just don't think the good ol' 430ish feet of power is enough nowadays. 550+ or bust.
@@scottsharp1763watched brodie and ezra seemed to be iffy on holes i think in general its a new course so its mixed feelings some holes do seem slightly wonky in terms of what shots required and how
@@jonathanmodisette6997 wait till next year 👍🏼
48:22 best jerm hole breakdown yet 😂😂
Austin has plenty of legit disc golf courses, not sure why they chose to build a new temporary one for this event
Why not Roy G.?? I think it would be so fun to watch the pro tour try their hand at that houck classic
Simple, no other courses offer adequate room for live spectators.
I had the same thoughts but it’s also why they may be taking Waco (partially) to a golf course next year: a lot more flexibility for hole design on private land than public courses. Also Roy G still has some construction/improvements going on so I could see it coming in the picture in a few years if the Tour decides to consistently come back to Austin.
I feel like the main concern was making sure they could charge spectators. Austin is a discs golf mecca, and this layout suuuuuucks.
Would the homeless camps be in bounds or out?
On a serious note - none of the great courses in the Austin area provide a good environment for spectators and the logistics of running a pro tour event with hundreds of players.
39:14 You can go to the moon, but you can't go to this pin 🤣🤣🤣🤣absolutely had me rolling on the floor laughing!
It’s 27 degrees in Chicago today. In this video I’m hearing the early morning birds chirping, everything is green, the sun is shining… I need to move
I’ve been wondering when I’d spot Thomas Gilbert this season on Jomez. Love it ❤
So interesting because Brodie and Ezra liked this course during their practice round.
Ezra likes any course where he doesn't have to hit gaps in the woods
"Foot golf, second coolest golf. Disc golf gets 3rd". That fact that the rest of the crew didn't hear that and was not rolling on the ground was so disappointing. Hilarious stuff Nate
@BigJerm thanks for the putting tip! Now that I know the rule about getting as close to the basket as you can from your lie before putting, my putting has drastically improved!
27:53 The " OHHHHHHH THATS RUNNING RIGHT " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Those jump putts on hole 5 had me dying. Love to see it.
Completely agree with the sentiment of the Jomez boys. Disc golf was born in the woods lets keep it that way!
So flipping happy to see a new course!!!!
I remember the first time me and my buddies played we also thought you got to take as big of a step towards the basket as possible. Really made putting easy 😂
Paul HATES this course 😂😂😂
I want one of those hoodies or hockey sweaters or whatever they are.. I didn’t see them on the website..
same!
How do I get one of those JomezPro Hockey Jerseys!!??
Can we just watch Kyle and his extra shots next time? 😂
Is there somewhere where I can see Nate Sexton’s INNOVA Llama that he keeps showing to everyone in these practice rounds? Inquiring llama llovers want to know.
With Met Center and Roy G right there, making this course the Austin Open's inaugural course seems like a tragedy.
Love the coverage Jomez! I just wish Austin was showing off their better disc golf courses.
Pros would make Mets boring, and Roy G is overrun by homeless camps
@@xHesienberg Not anymore. They got cleared out.
@@xHesienberg First off, this isn't even true. Second, please explain why Met would be "made boring" by the pros. There's a very good argument for Met Center to be the course for this event since the DPGT wants spectators. It's a perfect course for spectating as almost every hole can be seen from safe areas around the park. Third, let me know why this course is instead the best choice. I'd love to hear a salient argument for it because I've seen many of these course previews (from touring professionals) that give me the opposite opinion.
Honestly the most fun I’ve had watching a practice round in a long time 😂😂😂😂
Hole #9 is awkward, a mandatory that puts another basket in clear line of sight is bizarre. That being said, I like the shot that it forces.
Their disdain for this course really shows lol
In a dream world I'd wish for these guys on their practice round, and then the two hot geese on an actual practice round where they bring other fpo players and get their thoughts on the course
This is a great idea! They definitely need to do this!
If the back 9 is anything like the front I think a hot round is MAYBE -6 or 7. I doubt we'll even see a double digit under round. I'm sure some will definitely double digits on the + side though
the hole #6 commentary is the best of the year so far.. I'm literally in tears
Very cool to see Kyle Klein hanging out with the crew. That was a great win for him and Discmania. Kyle has a little Michael Cera vibe going on.
watching them go through hole 6 is amazing. great coverage jomez!
I like this course a lot. Great variety of shots and holes.
@jomezpro You don't have to keep auto exposure on. Set it manually and let the sky get blown out. Some of these shots are so dark as to be useless.
37:49 What a sick roller laying it down at that angle
48:23 Jerm is having so much fun :Dd
For hole 6 I think they gotta try what Eagle did during his practice round, high hyzer but with a super flippy disc so it gets all the glide it needs to get to the hole
Agreed, he thought about it and came up w/ a solution. These guys just went all negative calling it un-gettable
honestly this course didn't seem all that different from other golf courses on tour (not saying I like them but seems pretty similar to all the other ones)
we need more camera shots like this 24:20
Thomas and Ella sighting!
I lost it when Sexton said to step on the "no step" area haha
I like this course... we just came off the shortest course of the year.
Did they not see Kyle’s 2nd shot (forehand) on hole 8? Even closer than Nate’s and almost hit chains but nobody said anything
Thomas Gilbert is the disc golf Waldo. Is he there? Somewhere....always somewhere. Find him!
It’s seems like DGPT forgot to schedule The Open and had to scramble to put together this course. There are so many championship courses in Austin and this is what they came up with!?
Jeff Spring said at the press conference that they had scheduled Roy G, but there were issues from the city and this was a backup.
Another ball golf course. Yayyy! When will the dgpt stop trying to be ball golf?
Would LOVE to see a macked out temp course at MOODY'S!
There might be nothing I dislike more in disc golf than putting green OB. I know it's a personal thing, but I'm so glad to live on the east coast every time I see courses like this.
Hey Nate, the thumbies are still very cool, can confirm
THAT JOMEZ HOCKEY JERSEY IS SICK
Nates Safeton mode kicked in so hard even the throller was the safe shot inbounds
If jerm is really throwing a groove I may have to put mine back in the bag.
The ULI commentary at 33:50 was well delivered. Simple but direct; firm yet encouraging. Well said.
Also I love the Charlotte Pound Bag
That Jomez hockey jersey is sick!!
This is great. Difficult courses for these guys where a birdie is a true premium and a bogey can be detrimental. Although I think a couple of these were a tad TOO long, but generally I think it's fine. We all know there will be a few players that manage to get super impressive birdies
Theyre used to seeing -10 or more every round from the top players, but a course like this requires a different mindset. Nothing wrong with a par and picking your spots. It requires a lot of consistency and focus
It seems like these guys partied late night before. I love it.
Thank you for included all the shots for hole 6 🤣🤣🤣
Really hoping this is Kyle’s breakout season. All the best to him
I will say, though everyone is hating the course, I'm loving the fact that this isn't a regular golf course. This is adding in that parody in the division we needed and wanted.
Y’all need to take it easy on Kyle. I was rooting for Calvin as his Destroyer has been my forehand disc for half of my two year disc golf career, but it’s your job to build up the new disc golfers: not to prove you’re more seasoned than them when they’re snagging W’s. I’m 33, but could almost hang with y’all after two years whereas this 20 year old is talented in what I understand is the new era of discs. He, Gannon, Isaac, etc are the future of the sport. Don’t try to take them down but build them up gentlemen. Much respect for all of you, but too much talking down to Kyle for my preference.
Also, I get it’s a practice round but stop talking while people are shooting
This has been a treat of an episode!
I've seen Jerm pissed, I've seen him lose his head, I've seen him go bonkers... I've never seen him so broken as when he did the hole 9 breakdown.
Sheesh, it was exhausting listening to these dues complain about everything. God forbid you have to throw something other than a stock 350 foot hyzer backhand.
Are these new cameras? This footage looks exceptionally good
Nice shout out to Roy G! That's where the tourney should have been held
Tough Course...what score do you think we will tournament??
Every time I see Nate's shoes, I always remember that unforgivable Adio ad with Nate in it
Let's be honest here. Those greens look like stepping on them would only improve them.
So at like 20:16 what’s up with the “went ob and taking it back”? I thought you were only allowed one meter from where the disc crossed into OB
so excited for Kyle Klein!!!!
I like thumbs holes. One of my favorite hoodies has them! 😎🤘🏻
Has Germ been working out? He’s looking Great!
A new course would be a great time to bring back Ulibari's safari, no?
I think the pro tour has platued to the point that if they are forced to throw low and do a difficult shot shape, they just default to rollers and spike hyzer and wonder why they are ob.
Was Jerm ready for lunch on that hole 9 intro? 🤣
I love these videos, and I watch every one. Over the last year I’ve been getting stuck behind people who are playing a practice round, throwing 3-4 drives, 3-4 approaches, and 3-4 putts. I value a good practice round, but could you start letting people know that they need to let people play through? I feel like so many people don’t understand simple etiquette , and you teach a large enough audience that you could change this issue.
Jerm's sad intro was my favorite