The harsh truth about starting a glamping business (don't make my mistake)
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The evolution of an AirBnB host:
1. Hotels suck, I'm going to host my own house as an alternative.
2. This is great, I'm going to buy and rent more homes.
3. This is hard to manage. I'll buy a big piece of land and rent out a bunch of fancy tents.
4. I could make more money if the tents were actual real rooms. I'll build a giant building with lots of individual AirBnBs!
5. They now own a hotel. Start process over.
Hotels have always been a great investment so it's a win win
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As someone who’s setting up their 2nd Glamping biz, this is super, super on point. Incredible free advice 👏
Crazy how big the government has gotten. Hard to do anything now.
"Stameped engineering plans "... For a tent. The world is too effed up to even bother with this.
5:22 "amenities, like parking lots, swimming pools, parks, semi-nude bocce ball, gyms and laundry facilities." Ok, hold up. I'm gonna need more detail on the bocce ball.
Bocce ball is like a fun game where you roll big, colorful balls on a special court. You try to get your balls as close as possible to a smaller ball called the "jack." It's like rolling and aiming, and whoever gets their balls closest to the jack wins!
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This is a great video! I could talk glamping rules and regulations all day! LOL
There's so much to think about and consider. We should definitely do a follow up conversation!
Texas has plenty of unrestricted land with no zoning :)
We got in just in time and are now grandfathered, about 35 minutes from Rob's Sevierville property. Different county, different rules. Took us 10 weeks to build 1 unit, 1 year to build 5 glampsites. Not the same resale value as other counties but glad we got it done before they quickly passed new laws on zoning and permits. A friend in Sevierville has also had major time delays due to county laws
Really important timing advice here! We've been working through permitting on a ground-up 30-unit project upstate NY and are closing in on the 3 yr mark. I never imagined it would take so long in my wildest dreams! We also encountered resistance from the neighbors, even after a lot of education and outreach. The NIMBY attitude is very common and I think everyone should be prepared to simply endure that! We even had to do an Archaeological Survey of our property to satisfy some outrageous claims of prehistoric aquifers...planning and zoning is purgatory. If I had to start over I would seriously consider the 'buy old and refurbish' strategy - comes with its own thorns but a MUCH faster route to being operational.
Dealing with bureaucracy is exhausting. Their job (made up job that is) is to make your life miserable so you give up on your business ideas. Not exaggerating
can i see your project in upstate NY?
I'm starting on year 3 with my permitting for my cabin compound in the Adirondacks
@@slin4013 part of the process is designed to wear you down, and convince you to downscale your plans. It's an orchestrated sort of compromise that you eventually come to with the planning commission. Once the assigned staff know you're serious and in it for the long haul, they usually become more informative and helpful in preparing teh application materials.
Id love to see a video on buying a campground and fixing it up.
Let’s see a ground up video! I am doing a ground up new construction Campground in Monteagle, Tennessee on 15 acres with 20 RV pads called Everwild Park. We’re 18+ months (purchased end of May 22’) in and it’s currently in Engineering with St. John’s Engineering out of Manchester. I will have been working on the project 2 years before we’re “shovel ready” with State soils/septic permits and 1+ acre ground disturbance etc. No local jurisdiction to permit with in Grundy Co. They have not adopted zoning or IRC building codes.
Remind us when it’s finished! I would love to stay as I frequently travel between Nashville and Atl.
Yes, please do a video on this
😮 good to know!
Isn’t he supposed to be interviewing her? He’s doing 90% of the talking
OMG, Rob! You have walked the walk, man. I'll be in front of the commissioners in El Paso County in January. I've got a posse of opposition, too!
Thanks for the fantastic video, as well as the openness and honesty about the rigor of the entire process! I was in negotiations for a property in the NC Smoky Mtns that initially seemed like a win. Once we dove into the logistical, engineering and permitting aspects, we quickly realized that the property would not support 30+ units (A-frames, yurts, etc.) and the infrastructure costs (cutting roads and enhancing existing roads, septic, etc.) would have cost over $500k and blown the entire budget.
Please do a Part 2 for a ground-up build!
Hi Rob! Loved this video! We had quite a journey opening our tiny home glampground near the Grand Canyon too. We bought a 9 acre dilapidated campground on US Hwy 89 north of Flagstaff, Ariz. But because it had been closed for more than six months, the property had lost its grandfathering! So we had to start from square one with Coconino County Planning and Zoning in Arizona -- the same folks you're dealing with. It took about a year and a new HUGE septic system to get six RV spaces open. But last April, they approved our request for a rezone to Commercial on all 9 acres! So now we don't have a Conditional Use Permit (which is a relief because being dependent on your neighbors for your business success can be risky), and we can have up to 12 sites per acre. Yay! Now we have six tiny homes -- four on Airbnb -- and can't wait to add more! We love your channel and learn a lot from you. We would be happy to share with you what we've learned in working with Coconino County on this process.
I was thinking about doing something out there in Coconino county and ran into a ton of walls with the government. I want to live on the land and either put up tipis or yurts as well as a disc golf course.
Hey rob! I love your content and keep up with every new video, I am an electrician in the East Tennessee area I have actually worked in Gatlinburg in Sevierville for the last 10 years. I'm up to date on all local codes and have built a relationship with most local inspectors. I worked for sun electric for 7 years and I worked with the Cherokee group for 3 years, you can Google those companies and check out their credentials. I run my own business now as Webb's electrical services. I would see it as privilege to work for you if you ever ran into an electrical issue at one of your rentals. I really liked your comment in a previous video about how no one answers their phone in the Smoky mtns, unfortunately this is unbelievably true but I do my best to pick up my phone any time it rings!
Keep the content coming man! I'm trying to build generational wealth and you've taught me alot
since you do both glamping and normal residential STR’s, which would you say is better in terms of risk, beginner friendliness, start up cost, and dealing with customers etc? this might be a good video idea as well
Great video. Do not agree with 3-5 year plan to begin. I’m sure the experiences different for everyone. There are definitely barriers. But…
Do the break down part two otherwise I will sacrifice my subscription to you to the gods!
I would really appreciate more information or a part 2 to this very helpful video! Thanks Rob for once again digging into the real issues and offering answers, ideas and just being honest about the work involved-I am really not able to listen to other pods or You-tube videos because it’s rare that they give such honest insight-
And…. They are just not very funny- unlike you Rob:)
My siblings and I will inherit 11 acres in a rural and honestly depressed area. But it is beautiful and has a natural spring. It is completely undeveloped farm land and I had the idea of putting a glampsite on it since it is an easy one hour drive from Raleigh. So a “from the ground up “ video would be greatly appreciated!
Yes to part 2!!! This is super valuable content. Another great video. Thanks Rob!
Informative but misleading thumbnail.
Any advice on where to find a good selection of high quality glamping tents in the USA? There are amazing looking tents available from Chinese manufacturers, but the shipping costs are twice as much as the tents themselves.
Yes! Amazing content and guest. I would LOVE to see a ground up video on this topic. I've interested in this topic for YEARS but find it daunting.
We are a year and a half into our permit in Joshua Tree. CEQA can bight me, but I'd rather not be shut down
I'm really glad someone is doing an educational video on this. I can't tell you how many clients we have that have no idea that these issues can occur
If you think he wants to help YOU...the competition..you are gullible.
@soonernation37 you sir have a very cinical way of looking at the world and have obviously never met a wealthy investor. I know many of them, and they all love to help people on their way up because it increases their business opportunities
Should you arrange for permits without being ready to build?
What goes first?
I'm 2 years into permitting my small glamping compound, 3-5 years till completely done is accurate
How do you make sure the property you are researching doesn’t sale while you are your due diligence??
not mentioned but helpful if possible get a local engineer familiar with the local code enforcement and requirements
small hipcamp ? I seen all kinds of place. It is small stuff. I have camped at places in California and all over the country. Definitely not big ones. More like farms or ranches. I am interested in Okeechobee Fl area or North Florida Springs areas.
This is a long the lines of what I'd like to do too. Maybe a tent or two as things go along.
Where do you go about finding old camp sites for sale
round 2 please! thank you for all the great info and vids!
If I own private property. I will do whatever it is that I wish.
What’s semi-nude bocce ball?😂
i'm so glad they have zoning laws for where people can glamp because imagine you build up a sight and then someone builds a giant neighborhood next to it.
I would love to see part 2 and 3
Rebuilt would you be interested in joining my wife and I's plan of building an airbnb community. All the permits and town hall meetings do not apply. We have 20+ and 30+ acres that we've had airbnbs on for 3÷yrs (that are netting a good chunk). You could be a silent or active partner.
Gotham Chess is a real estate investor now?
You say to do all of this before you buy the land, but im seeing a problem here. If you find land that is in a good location, has some nice terrain, views, and features, it sells really quick. How do you do all this due diligence before it gets snatched up from under your feet? Are you making private deals with land owners that don't have their land publicly listed for sale?
i remember when Rob was like....ya....50 sites in elevated pizza tree houses and by that stream, he was going to cut the bank away and have a glassed in site right into the hill by the creek.
The guy was a good promoter....not really a developer of anything....and learned along the way.....now that site will have 5 glamp sites....I wonder what he did with the air stream he parked by the stream when it flooded?
I want to start a Glamping AirBnB here in New York State. Been looking at a bunch of videos and don’t really know where to start but I can’t wait to continue this journey
Do you know the laws when it comes to owning themed Airbnbs? For example a Disney or Nintendo themed house. Is it legal do I need permission? I can’t find any answers online
Oms I just enlarged and read your campsite plan list. Cracked me up. Emotional support cacti. 😂. Barber on site. 😂
My husband and I are builders, landlords and STR operators. We run into these issues all the time. It is hard to build in the mountains. We have to put in Fire Department roads with a deeded turnaround for them.
When she mentioned reading the minutes or watching the videos ahead of time I knew this is good advice. I used to do the same thing before traffic court. Go to a court session beforehand and see what pisses the judge off and what works. Plus you are more relaxed when you are there.
I’ve been in the Red River Gorge area (KY) for a few years now and I definitely see a huge market. Good luck to his student.
Semi-nude bocce ball is the easter egg that you keep planting in this video. Hmmm.
Thankyou so much for this video. I'm in Australia and have no idea about regulations etc
This is why it's important to hire a good architect or designer to help you with the process. My wife and I have been looking to get into the education space to educate investors on these types of things.
Ouwh yes! Please make a video on avquiring an existing site and getting some sweet grandfathered permitting.
What did the person who bought back the property in Seiverville, do with it?
Yes to a part 2!❤
Informative discussion. Looking forward to the next convo #TheBreakDown
Is there a part 2?
Hi Rob! Long time subscriber here. At 13:44, what did you mean when you said that you learned that you shouldn't appear as yourself on permit applications anymore? Can you use another identity?
Maybe a business name?
Please yes!! More campground info!
Would love a video on more about this!
PLEASE DO AN EXTENDED VIDEO ON THIS. PLEASE!!!!!
Yes - ground up video, please.
Host camper here: does the civil engineer you use need to be from the area where your potentially going to develop ?
They’re likely referring to a civil that has a “professional engineer” stamp for your state. Local laws would dictate if you need stamped plans or not. Source: I’m a civil without stamp and we built our own home.
Htown? Heroin town? San Francisco?
I would love to see more, please do it!
Please Please Please part deux!!!
Yes I need more information
Do a more in-depth video
Yes please do more of these videos!!
yes part 2 definitely
Part 2 please
Please do another one.
Do you have a lender that loans on land that you recommend in California?
Land loans are very difficult to get and usually require half down with building plans for 1-2 years. Try a local bank first
Part 2!
Def need more episodes on this!
Thank YOU for this!!!
Do a part 2 please!!!!!
Part 2 please.
Super helpful.
Excellent content! 🙌
A what?
DO IT
Semi nude bocce ball is really taking over
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@@toniescaife All your questions shall be revealed in the video, my dear Tonie
What video?
Thanks!
Wow thank you so much!