In my experience the Blitz rating is like 70% luck as your impact on the games is pretty irrelevant compared to Shuffle, no matter how well you do everything right if you have a team of brainless people you are going to lose. The last 2 seasons of Dragonflight I was at 2400-2500 rating on shuffle playing Boomkin and 2000-2100 as Feral, this expansion I started playing Blitz as Boomkin and got stuck at 1500 with a 50% winrate, then I switched to feral (which I don't know how to play too much) and had a winning streak getting to 1800 pretty fast. So, I think you shouldn't take the Blitz rating too seriously, just enjoy the game.
I have heard/seen thousands of players say something to this effect, everyone else is a bot but not me, I play well and should be 2400+ but I have bad team mates. You gotta take a bit of responsibilty even if you feel you are playing well there will be several ways you can improve, focus on improving those things and the rating will follow
@@GardenisLife fair enough, Ive q'd around 100 matches at 2200mmr and pretty much stayed at that rating/mmr since getting it, seems like a decent enough sample size. I get shit games thrown in there but good ones thrown in there evening it all out. I've had people at all ratings from 1300-1900 in solo shuff say the same thing in the start rooms, "Im at 1400 becuase my partners suck but Im doing everything right" sorta talk. If you've played 100+ matches its extremely likely the game has found the rating you belong at.
Just keep playing games. Remember the goal isn’t to win every game. The goal is to see your win loss ratio go up. If you are doing everything you are supposed to be doing, you will still lose some games but you will win more than you lose.
@Endless10ppp Best thing to do is ping the kill target and hope you are playing with people that respond to pings. All you can do really. If the other team is focusing targets and you’r team isn’t you will lose the team fight every time.
@@GardenisLife Sorry, This is typical “I want a rating let me just buy it” cry baby BS. If it were not, then nobody would be at these high ratings. But of course, there are people who are. Everybody wanted rated bgs… this is what it looks like. You are one of 8 people, and have 1/8th of the chance to make an impact.
Honestly beyond stupid that they didn't nerf Monk flag carrier for Blitz. They're acting like it's the same as regular RBG, which is very much not the case. I have yet to lose a single flag carrier map where my team was the only one that had a monk.
I dont know hat happened with the blitz MMR. It feels like the blizz deflated it to "match" with other rated brackets. I'm fighting at around 2000-2200 mmr and 1600 cr, gaining 15-20 rating at the most. I know for a fact there are many many people already at 2400 (some of them I know personally and they've never been anywhere near that rating in arena and not for the lack of trying). Something has changed in terms of MMR. It feels like that school situation where a student complains that he got a worse grade than the same classmate who got a better grade - then the teacher just downgrades the other guy as well, instead of upping the other student's grade. I feel like this happened with people complaining about blitz MMR being too different to shuffle/3s, hoping that they'll inflate the two.
When I do not play a BL class in Blitz, i usually end up begging ppl to use their BL ability, since you can have 2 uses in a Blitz game and can help you win a teamfight or clean up any fight somewhere. It's crazy how many ppl refuse to use BL/TW/Hysteria/dragonBL, or maybe i am just jinxed when it comes to that :D.
its basically "Dont get the team with the 1500cr idiots that somehow exploded their mmr". When i finally started playing in 2300mmr, got to 2050cr, i lost 4 in a row because started getting 1500cr ppl in my teams, and now im at 2kCR and my mmr is like 1900, and my team is full of 1500 1600, and if i win, get 7 points, if i lose, -20
I understand being a good team player and playing for the objective, CC'ing, focusing enemy healer, etc., but sometimes who just get a bad team. Dudes fighting on the roads like it's team deathmatch. It gets better at higher ratings, but getting out of the 1200-1500 range is miserable. Get the team where half the dudes are blowing themselves in the corner of the map.
i play Survival and im having trouble getting out of 1500 in blitz despite reaching 1800 in previous seasons on 10v10 rated bg’s as a shotcaller, dont know if ive gotten worse or what but it feels pointless right now.
Im just trying to get the saddle… almost every game is a loss with some exceptions.. (outlaw rogue) myself and other ppl know what their doing but I have a feeling that so many people that que into rated blitz bg just want to kill and doesn’t really know what their doing.. really depressing after a while.
most unlucky streak playing lock. 1 - 6 as destro even though i really do a lot in terms of teamfighting but usually just end up on the more undergeared side. rerolled back to horde and insta started winning again. kinda sucks but thats how it is i guess
could u make a tier list for games with healdruids afk all game in stealth and 7 guys in EOTS going mid just to run around with the flag and no base? ^^
as a boomie, people at 1600 always expect me to fc no matter what and hold the flag the entire game as if boomy isnt the easiest target to kill in the entire game. I always help out flag carrying just to cross the map with it because thats easy but when people expect me to sit bear form in flag room, I tell them its not a good idea. I tried dropping to a disc priest one time and he got so mad that he messages me for like an hour in rage. He said he almost reported me lol. Am i crazy @Supatease?
Blitz just feels bad all games are Dks hunters fury warrior warlocks disc priest and pres dragons. Teams treat it as pugs and just fight in the middle with little to no chance to come back. Im 1800 and see this every game there arè no close matches just a stomp win or loss.
I think maybe clarifying what you mean by 'Team Fight' would be good, I see a lot of people just fighting mid and doning nothing else, that doesn't help anyone win...
Mate I keep getting shit team mates that throw the game or flat out don't know how to play and I've lost 200 ratting what should I do I'm losing my mind , Fury warrior here , HELP PLEASE
I don't like the culture of Tier List videos. I think they are toxic and overall diminish the quality of a streamers content. So when I faced Supa yesterday and held a base down while he was screaming Kill the MG Uwu Ret, I said "Put this in a tier list." imagine my surprise when I opened TH-cam and he did...
I queued my first blitz games last night. I’m a disc priest. I went 25-5. I’m currently at 1711 rating at around 2550-2600 mmr. Is the blitz mmr super inflated or what’s going on with the mmr? Seems kind of high for only 30 games played
Bro I went from 1878 on balanced druid to 1626 the mmr system is broken by people not playing objectives etc almost the same with my dh it's hell in the 1600 to 1800 bracket
Yeah, it's almost better to get 2 win and 1 loss instead of winning 10 in a row and lose 7after that.. At some point mmr stabilize though. I don't think I've loss rating except when I got dced and got the deserter buff.
Got main to 2250 and chilling. Working on alts... got further alt to 1900 second alt got it to 1542 with a 10 win 1 loss record... second loss in a row I lose 26 points... then third loss I lose 21 points.... third loss in a row I lost 24 points.... and then I win a game and it gave me +1 rating.... are you freaking kidding me... 1.... not 2 not 3 not 15..... 1 freaking rating point. And im carrying soooo hard. Top damage top objectives completed. And it gave me 1 rating after losing 50+ rating. This system is broken badly.
As a healer, I love Blitz far more than SS. Super fun games that aren't insanely stressful or dps ragey for me.
I hear you especially the part about those raging dps
Literally ! I can finally play a rank PvP mode, without friends that is not arena based. Game changer for me and the only reason I got tww
Funny because blitz is way more stressful to me. More players and they don't play objectives xdd
100% I don't get whispers from angry dps after I kept them alive for 10 mins and the couldn't kill anyone in blitz.
In my experience the Blitz rating is like 70% luck as your impact on the games is pretty irrelevant compared to Shuffle, no matter how well you do everything right if you have a team of brainless people you are going to lose. The last 2 seasons of Dragonflight I was at 2400-2500 rating on shuffle playing Boomkin and 2000-2100 as Feral, this expansion I started playing Blitz as Boomkin and got stuck at 1500 with a 50% winrate, then I switched to feral (which I don't know how to play too much) and had a winning streak getting to 1800 pretty fast. So, I think you shouldn't take the Blitz rating too seriously, just enjoy the game.
i have lost all faith in wow players some still don't understand objectives and the amount of people I've had troll my games is crazy
I have heard/seen thousands of players say something to this effect, everyone else is a bot but not me, I play well and should be 2400+ but I have bad team mates. You gotta take a bit of responsibilty even if you feel you are playing well there will be several ways you can improve, focus on improving those things and the rating will follow
lol nah, a lot of it is luck.
Boomkin was beyond broken last 2 seasons ond df and now its mid of the pack :p
@@GardenisLife fair enough, Ive q'd around 100 matches at 2200mmr and pretty much stayed at that rating/mmr since getting it, seems like a decent enough sample size. I get shit games thrown in there but good ones thrown in there evening it all out.
I've had people at all ratings from 1300-1900 in solo shuff say the same thing in the start rooms, "Im at 1400 becuase my partners suck but Im doing everything right" sorta talk.
If you've played 100+ matches its extremely likely the game has found the rating you belong at.
im stuck in the rating dumpster and cant escape its hell. it feels like even now some people dont understand the objectives
Just keep playing games. Remember the goal isn’t to win every game. The goal is to see your win loss ratio go up. If you are doing everything you are supposed to be doing, you will still lose some games but you will win more than you lose.
@Endless10ppp Best thing to do is ping the kill target and hope you are playing with people that respond to pings. All you can do really. If the other team is focusing targets and you’r team isn’t you will lose the team fight every time.
@@GardenisLife Sorry, This is typical “I want a rating let me just buy it” cry baby BS. If it were not, then nobody would be at these high ratings. But of course, there are people who are.
Everybody wanted rated bgs… this is what it looks like. You are one of 8 people, and have 1/8th of the chance to make an impact.
Honestly beyond stupid that they didn't nerf Monk flag carrier for Blitz. They're acting like it's the same as regular RBG, which is very much not the case. I have yet to lose a single flag carrier map where my team was the only one that had a monk.
Great video, it's super neat seeing all the specs broken up into this and explained why! 👏
I hit 2200, got an unlucky L streak and fell to 1900, then somehow grinded my way up to 2450
Living proof that BGB rating doesn't exist, it's made up and doesn't matter. RNG.
bro how , I got an insane L streak and went from 2166 to 1988, I'm struggling to go past 2k again cause of unbelievably bad players
@@filipposstavro1233 Because BGB is like 80% RNG and sometimes there's 0 personal responsibility.
@@Earthfurry717 ah my luck at work again :/
I wasn't expecting this kind of tier list...I like it.
I dont know hat happened with the blitz MMR. It feels like the blizz deflated it to "match" with other rated brackets. I'm fighting at around 2000-2200 mmr and 1600 cr, gaining 15-20 rating at the most.
I know for a fact there are many many people already at 2400 (some of them I know personally and they've never been anywhere near that rating in arena and not for the lack of trying). Something has changed in terms of MMR.
It feels like that school situation where a student complains that he got a worse grade than the same classmate who got a better grade - then the teacher just downgrades the other guy as well, instead of upping the other student's grade. I feel like this happened with people complaining about blitz MMR being too different to shuffle/3s, hoping that they'll inflate the two.
The first 3 days, it was super easy to gain rating, and lose nearly none, they stealth hotfixed it afterwards
When I do not play a BL class in Blitz, i usually end up begging ppl to use their BL ability, since you can have 2 uses in a Blitz game and can help you win a teamfight or clean up any fight somewhere. It's crazy how many ppl refuse to use BL/TW/Hysteria/dragonBL, or maybe i am just jinxed when it comes to that :D.
its basically "Dont get the team with the 1500cr idiots that somehow exploded their mmr". When i finally started playing in 2300mmr, got to 2050cr, i lost 4 in a row because started getting 1500cr ppl in my teams, and now im at 2kCR and my mmr is like 1900, and my team is full of 1500 1600, and if i win, get 7 points, if i lose, -20
None of this matters if most of your team is incompetent. Best advice is to just duo queue.
Love the video. Could you post a NA AWC Hype Moments!
I understand being a good team player and playing for the objective, CC'ing, focusing enemy healer, etc., but sometimes who just get a bad team. Dudes fighting on the roads like it's team deathmatch. It gets better at higher ratings, but getting out of the 1200-1500 range is miserable. Get the team where half the dudes are blowing themselves in the corner of the map.
i play Survival and im having trouble getting out of 1500 in blitz despite reaching 1800 in previous seasons on 10v10 rated bg’s as a shotcaller, dont know if ive gotten worse or what but it feels pointless right now.
There's only so much you can do if the teams are clueless. mostly ally from my experience
Im just trying to get the saddle… almost every game is a loss with some exceptions.. (outlaw rogue) myself and other ppl know what their doing but I have a feeling that so many people that que into rated blitz bg just want to kill and doesn’t really know what their doing.. really depressing after a while.
most unlucky streak playing lock. 1 - 6 as destro even though i really do a lot in terms of teamfighting but usually just end up on the more undergeared side. rerolled back to horde and insta started winning again. kinda sucks but thats how it is i guess
The answer is simple
Classes with stealth, good cc and self sustain can go objectives. Rest only team fight
Locks also have curse of exhaustion.
could u make a tier list for games with healdruids afk all game in stealth and 7 guys in EOTS going mid just to run around with the flag and no base? ^^
What to do vs healers? They are absolutely unkillable and no one focus them enough. So to do in this case?
Cry because bliizzard thinks a healer should be worth 2.5 players.
Roll warrior, it's the oldest lesson in the game
Only 2 healers, so they are easy to CC, especially with being split up on many maps.
i have your what to target tier list on my 2nd monitor background for when im doing solo shuffle. love u
as a boomie, people at 1600 always expect me to fc no matter what and hold the flag the entire game as if boomy isnt the easiest target to kill in the entire game. I always help out flag carrying just to cross the map with it because thats easy but when people expect me to sit bear form in flag room, I tell them its not a good idea. I tried dropping to a disc priest one time and he got so mad that he messages me for like an hour in rage. He said he almost reported me lol. Am i crazy @Supatease?
Winning isn't so much an issue as actually getting into games.
15-18 minute queues for a match that lasts like 5-7 minutes is inexcusable.
This is only a thing on fresh characters after that they’re not that long. You are also probs playing late at night
I wait like 4-5min as dps
Play a match and then u will get 4m ques, u have 0 rating rn.
Blitz just feels bad all games are Dks hunters fury warrior warlocks disc priest and pres dragons. Teams treat it as pugs and just fight in the middle with little to no chance to come back. Im 1800 and see this every game there arè no close matches just a stomp win or loss.
Appreciate the info
love this lol help these ppl help me up outta elo hell
I play dev and, though I'd like to team fight, everyone always runs mid, and I have to go off doing objectives
also i hope they NERF drakthyr and monk movement into the ground and burry it.
I think maybe clarifying what you mean by 'Team Fight' would be good, I see a lot of people just fighting mid and doning nothing else, that doesn't help anyone win...
first step get the que to pop.... Ive legit sat in que for almost 1 hour. and just gave up lol.
For blitz ? Never happened to me and I play both dps and healer.
Low cr it's basically instant for healer and 5 mins for dps.
I don't play DPS because I got used to the instant Q's and I don't want to have to wait now lol
Play at "peak" times and you will get quite quick queue pops
i’ve never waited more than 10 minutes for a blitz to pop. i think your game might be bugged.
Mate I keep getting shit team mates that throw the game or flat out don't know how to play and I've lost 200 ratting what should I do I'm losing my mind , Fury warrior here , HELP PLEASE
hunter is both I 100% disagree with them being only team fight. at 2.4 mmr I've seen mm easily solo take a base
I don't like the culture of Tier List videos. I think they are toxic and overall diminish the quality of a streamers content. So when I faced Supa yesterday and held a base down while he was screaming Kill the MG Uwu Ret, I said "Put this in a tier list." imagine my surprise when I opened TH-cam and he did...
Helps the FOTM players decide what they're going to main this season xD
buff arms warrior
I’ll save you 20 min , make sure you queue with a healer and it’s gg
Nah
I queued my first blitz games last night. I’m a disc priest. I went 25-5. I’m currently at 1711 rating at around 2550-2600 mmr. Is the blitz mmr super inflated or what’s going on with the mmr? Seems kind of high for only 30 games played
Damn 30 gsmes in a night. You are a savage.
cap
I'm 21-4 and getting like 7 pts a game at 1700 and losing 14 points. Wtf is this mmr system
Bro I was 1878 on balanced druid I went from that rating to 1626 the MMR is extremely broken
Bro I went from 1878 on balanced druid to 1626 the mmr system is broken by people not playing objectives etc almost the same with my dh it's hell in the 1600 to 1800 bracket
Yea I feel you I’ve won a match earlier and got 0 points
Yeah, it's almost better to get 2 win and 1 loss instead of winning 10 in a row and lose 7after that..
At some point mmr stabilize though. I don't think I've loss rating except when I got dced and got the deserter buff.
F Blizzard and there buggt mmr, BG Blitz rewards no lifer that spam play ZERO skill involved, BG BLitz exp = number of random Bgs played
Got main to 2250 and chilling. Working on alts... got further alt to 1900 second alt got it to 1542 with a 10 win 1 loss record... second loss in a row I lose 26 points... then third loss I lose 21 points.... third loss in a row I lost 24 points.... and then I win a game and it gave me +1 rating.... are you freaking kidding me... 1.... not 2 not 3 not 15..... 1 freaking rating point. And im carrying soooo hard. Top damage top objectives completed. And it gave me 1 rating after losing 50+ rating. This system is broken badly.
1 ratings? Yes, you are lucky. I already have a bunch of games where I was given 0 rating for winning.
BG Bliz is trash the team RNG is so bad...if you dont get the RNG GOD Roll team you loose..
How to win any type of pvp aside from arena.
Step 1: don’t be horde
but blitz is random faction....
@@evan-quinnphotography8898 I didn’t stutter, don’t be horde
@@Q_to_Tumble it doesn't matter what faction you are, teams are a random combo of any faction
You can’t. Mmr is broken.
First!
Why are people allowed to q rated bg when they dont even have pvp Trinkens?!
Dps should need atleast 1600 cr in arenas to be able to q bg blitz
Pretty silly take but go off
hard agree anyone below 1600 arena just sucks at the game