Its my first time hearing Wael. I absolutely 💯 ♥️ him and concur with his understanding of modernity. Its a strong pivot from where we are But what we're doing now is only destroying humanity and our world. We need to hear more from him and introduce him to many others. Thanks for doing interview.
What thought? He whitewashed Islamic history and demonized all of the rest of humanity. The Islamic Caliphate was killing its own within a single generation. Who killed Uthman and Ali? The Quran is entirely devoted to telling Muslims to fight, that the disbelievers are out to get them. It's a terrible ideology that leads to constant chaos and bloodshed.
I wouldn’t call it “Sharia law”. From my understanding, one of the points of his works is highlighting how language is weaponized, and how the understanding of Sharia was reduced to being just a source of legal rulings. It’s called Sharia not Sharia law, as Sharia is a vast discipline covering the discursive practice where the social, political, economic etc. intersect with the moral and epistemological. And then jurisprudence and rulings out of that is called fiqh, as you know. Glad you brought Hallaq on :)
Thanks from you and your efforts and happy to hear from that type of knowledgeable Prof.Hallaq just fabulous and thanks I pray for peace and healing. 👍👌🙏🤲💐💐
Excellent, excellent interview. Wael Hallaq has a deep understanding of the problems of the modern world and he exposes the issues in a very logical way. Very insightful. No sugar-coating. It is time for all of us to wake up. Thank you for the interview.
Dr Hallaq is the most patient scholar I’ve ever heard, read. This interview is but one proof of that impossible patience. He is a genius of our times and it will be decades of absorbing this great mind in approaching a world that needs an ethical and moral foundation.
The last metaphor was perfect. it almost summarisedRestaing Orientalism. Wael Hallaq has explained the life I have lived and the world around me. I am a different person now. Im from Pakistan writing my Mphill thesis in which incorporate his works. Im so grateful to him.
I love Hallaq’s uncompromising style. It’s impossible to miss the moral implications of his political analysis. He reunites fact and value, to put it in his terms.
Of course you are helping Professor , the first step is targeting the routed perceptions of modernity that makes us think and see ourselves and the others in this world,then that will have to push us to figure out the system that better fit our lives and the world we live in, and that will be a long process !! First just admit this needs absolutely to change !!
amazing talk, seriously, this man's writings like "An introduction to Islamic law" are the english resources we just need to dissmenate important understandings
At about 28:00, Dr Hallaq points out a very seminal point about our current “modernity”, and that is the fragmentation that is subspecialization in Academia (and I can only speak about the Western Academy). What is needed ( I would say required) is a consistent means of interdisciplinary communication rather than the emphasis on subspecializing with an occasional interdisciplinary emphasis -which is the model I have experienced. The disciplines - like the individuals- need to speak to each other a lot more.
Dear Wael, I listened to some of your interviews online and I found you fascinating intelligent individual who could build a better future for our middle eastern and nation-wide values. I need you to remember that its your duty to spread your words around the globe, because they should build an amazing culture we strive to in our dreams instead of going back forward old thoughts and actions. You inspire creative people to build a new practical systems based on what worked on the past. Currently, the middle east is living the past and keep living it again and again till they reach the heaven they dream about. But, people like you create heaven on earth, because this earth was like heaven before humanity started their own selfish plans. Keep doing what you are doing, I believe that The Islam should be upgraded to the next level by innovating Mathab researches that is not controlled by any power. A new Modern Islam Mathab needs to be built to save the lives and this religion.
I wanted to learn particularly about the Middle-East Arab's general view on Modernism, I was excited that he touched upon it in the beginning while defining Modernism but I think it then became general. In Sha Allah, next time, I would to learn more about that as an outsider.
Brilliant interview and amazing intellect. If (like me) you need the books broken down a little to understand them better, you might like the series on the Blogging Theology channel with Tom Facchine who has a very good take on Dr Hallaq's works.
the Islamic state is impossible for certain reasons but the choice to chose being ethical is eternal and almost personal, a practice that offers what a islamic state stands for.
Loved how @afikra pried on the question: How is modern state different from empires? Historically speaking, one can argue that societies were more exploitative and more violent in medieval and ancient world than the modern state. Emperors ruled the empire like they owned it taxing farmers to death and enslaving people who couldn't pay taxes. I did not see convincing answer to the question about how the past was NOT "bad". If someone is criticizing modern state system, then we cannot the escape the question whether the past was really that great and peaceful? Looking forward for part-2!
Dr. Hallaq says that "we can live without states without living in anarchy", this may just be a semantic misalignment, however what most social anarchists ( contrasted with individualist anarchists ) would advocate for is exactly what Dr. Hallaq says in that quote, a form of collective stateless living with a strong focus on ethics and values other then profit ( the modernist capitalist episteme ). Anarchy is commonly derided and semantically confused with chaos as opposed to a legitimate political orientation that has existed for thousands of years alongside the development of what would eventually dialectically synthesize into the modern nation state form. I think that there is a surprising amount of overlap between anarchy and islam, the notion of non state polycentric law is evidently appealing.
This is NOT a critique of Dr. Hallaq, but people in a position to impact a change will NOT read a 400-page book (the new book he's working on). I hope it will include a summary chapter "For National Leaders" (For Dummies).
Modernity includes many components: science, technology,philosophy,secularism, democracy, geopolitics etc. For Muslims , science and technology are to be taken back , while others are just references and most of them to be discarded into trash bin. That means modern Muslims have to hold full Islam and assimilate modern science to build up independence and strength to bring justice and peace and prosperity to the humanity!
He had no concrete answers for what sharia-inspired solutions for all-humanity would look like in today’s world. He is understandably consumed by his anger against colonialism and the modern state. But he channels that energy into desperately trying to beautify the history of Islam in contrast, excusing the jizyah (non-Muslim tax) as the price of protection under the Islamic empire in his interview with Radio Thamanya. And here criticising all secularisms without offering real and inclusive alternatives, other than I’m optimistic Islam *one day* could be reinterpreted in less ugly ways than it has often lent itself to. While he’s dreaming of that and enjoying his popularity among nostalgic Islamists, women, queers, and apostates are left to grapple with the reality of Sharia-inspired laws and culture on the ground, which he cowardly valorises from his comfortable Columbia office. I want to be optimistic too about my Muslim community reinterpreting their religion, but we’re losing our lifetimes waiting for them and his discourse only feeds their self-righteousness. We are sick of waiting for Islamic reform and romanticising its past . We want a secular state. Call it dawla madaneyya if it makes you feel better.
Allaah has condemned theft and decreed an appropriate punishment for it. The hadd punishment for a thief is to cut off his hand. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And (as for) the male thief and the female thief, cut off (from the wrist joint) their (right) hands as a recompense for that which they committed, a punishment by way of example from Allaah. And Allaah is All Powerful, All Wise” [al-Maa’idah 5:38] The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The hand should be cut off for (the theft of) a quarter of a dinar or more.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-Hudood, 6291) This Shariya punishment for theft must be implemented in America, for all Muslims of America, under the able guidance of the professor of Columbia University
I’m sorry to say but I doubt you are able to follow the conversation. Your comment shows your ignorance clearly and no “Dr.” Title, fake or real can distract from that.
These are the types of guests that we need. You should def make a part 2 with him.
Its my first time hearing Wael. I absolutely 💯 ♥️ him and concur with his understanding of modernity. Its a strong pivot from where we are But what we're doing now is only destroying humanity and our world.
We need to hear more from him and introduce him to many others. Thanks for doing interview.
Nothing more thought provoking than the issues raised by Professor Hallaq, please do a part 2
What thought? He whitewashed Islamic history and demonized all of the rest of humanity. The Islamic Caliphate was killing its own within a single generation. Who killed Uthman and Ali? The Quran is entirely devoted to telling Muslims to fight, that the disbelievers are out to get them. It's a terrible ideology that leads to constant chaos and bloodshed.
I only discovered this gem of a scholar a few hours ago and am so psyched to read his work. Thank you for posting this interview.
I wouldn’t call it “Sharia law”. From my understanding, one of the points of his works is highlighting how language is weaponized, and how the understanding of Sharia was reduced to being just a source of legal rulings. It’s called Sharia not Sharia law, as Sharia is a vast discipline covering the discursive practice where the social, political, economic etc. intersect with the moral and epistemological.
And then jurisprudence and rulings out of that is called fiqh, as you know.
Glad you brought Hallaq on :)
finally another podcast with Pr wael, another wisdom to consume
Please do a part 2! There is so much need for these kinds of discussion! MashaAllah!
He’s a visionary, thank you for the podcast
Thanks from you and your efforts and happy to hear from that type of knowledgeable Prof.Hallaq just fabulous and thanks I pray for peace and healing. 👍👌🙏🤲💐💐
This show should have millions of views.
Excellent, excellent interview. Wael Hallaq has a deep understanding of the problems of the modern world and he exposes the issues in a very logical way. Very insightful. No sugar-coating. It is time for all of us to wake up. Thank you for the interview.
We're happy you found the episode insightful!
Dr Hallaq is the most patient scholar I’ve ever heard, read. This interview is but one proof of that impossible patience. He is a genius of our times and it will be decades of absorbing this great mind in approaching a world that needs an ethical and moral foundation.
We're happy you found the episode insightful!
Amazing interview! Great questions from the host.
Thanks 😊
Happy you found it informative!
The last metaphor was perfect. it almost summarisedRestaing Orientalism. Wael Hallaq has explained the life I have lived and the world around me. I am a different person now. Im from Pakistan writing my Mphill thesis in which incorporate his works. Im so grateful to him.
We're happy you enjoyed the episode!
I love Hallaq’s uncompromising style. It’s impossible to miss the moral implications of his political analysis. He reunites fact and value, to put it in his terms.
Amazing conversation thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
One of the most fascinating conversations about islam and the modern world! ❤
Of course you are helping Professor , the first step is targeting the routed perceptions of modernity that makes us think and see ourselves and the others in this world,then that will have to push us to figure out the system that better fit our lives and the world we live in, and that will be a long process !! First just admit this needs absolutely to change !!
Terrific interview!! Thank you for hosting Prof. Hallaq. I'm waiting for a part 2!
We're happy you enjoyed it!
Looking forward to episode 2!
@@afikra I led a discussion group on the book over May/June this year. It's posted on the Middle Nation channel. Do check it out
Thank you for this invaluable interview…
اتمنى يكون في جزء ثاني، هذا أفضل شي سمعته من فتره طويلة! كل التوفيق للجميع 👏🏼
!يسرنا أن الحلقة نالت إعجابكم
amazing talk, seriously, this man's writings like "An introduction to Islamic law" are the english resources we just need to dissmenate important understandings
I need more of this, I think I understood like one percent of this. Please do a part two and three.
Assalamu alaikum
I love islamic sharia law ❤❤❤
From India 🇮🇳
I was searching for Hallaq and I found this...eye opener..
Glad you found it useful!
At about 28:00, Dr Hallaq points out a very seminal point about our current “modernity”, and that is the fragmentation that is subspecialization in Academia (and I can only speak about the Western Academy). What is needed ( I would say required) is a consistent means of interdisciplinary communication rather than the emphasis on subspecializing with an occasional interdisciplinary emphasis -which is the model I have experienced. The disciplines - like the individuals- need to speak to each other a lot more.
A part two please 🙏
Loved the podcast . Amazing discussions and much needed discussion . Need to have more meaningful conversations like this ❤
We're glad you found this useful!
A great video, very interesting and helping understand these ideas for lay people like me
Glad it was helpful!
Dear Wael, I listened to some of your interviews online and I found you fascinating intelligent individual who could build a better future for our middle eastern and nation-wide values. I need you to remember that its your duty to spread your words around the globe, because they should build an amazing culture we strive to in our dreams instead of going back forward old thoughts and actions. You inspire creative people to build a new practical systems based on what worked on the past. Currently, the middle east is living the past and keep living it again and again till they reach the heaven they dream about. But, people like you create heaven on earth, because this earth was like heaven before humanity started their own selfish plans. Keep doing what you are doing, I believe that The Islam should be upgraded to the next level by innovating Mathab researches that is not controlled by any power. A new Modern Islam Mathab needs to be built to save the lives and this religion.
Alhamdulillah for these ever evolving minds! If Islam truly seeks to transcend the state, Austrian economics shares that hope for humanity.
Great interview.
We're happy you enjoyed it!
This man is a genius 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
Love Dr waels art! And idea! Dr neil postman said same thing, I think?
Wow mind bending. Thank you
I wanted to learn particularly about the Middle-East Arab's general view on Modernism, I was excited that he touched upon it in the beginning while defining Modernism but I think it then became general. In Sha Allah, next time, I would to learn more about that as an outsider.
Brilliant interview and amazing intellect. If (like me) you need the books broken down a little to understand them better, you might like the series on the Blogging Theology channel with Tom Facchine who has a very good take on Dr Hallaq's works.
What professor of islamic law is he referring to that taught at Columbia when Said was there?
the Islamic state is impossible for certain reasons but the choice to chose being ethical is eternal and almost personal, a practice that offers what a islamic state stands for.
Loved how @afikra pried on the question: How is modern state different from empires? Historically speaking, one can argue that societies were more exploitative and more violent in medieval and ancient world than the modern state.
Emperors ruled the empire like they owned it taxing farmers to death and enslaving people who couldn't pay taxes. I did not see convincing answer to the question about how the past was NOT "bad". If someone is criticizing modern state system, then we cannot the escape the question whether the past was really that great and peaceful? Looking forward for part-2!
Glad you liked it!
Encouraging!
Dr. Hallaq says that "we can live without states without living in anarchy", this may just be a semantic misalignment, however what most social anarchists ( contrasted with individualist anarchists ) would advocate for is exactly what Dr. Hallaq says in that quote, a form of collective stateless living with a strong focus on ethics and values other then profit ( the modernist capitalist episteme ). Anarchy is commonly derided and semantically confused with chaos as opposed to a legitimate political orientation that has existed for thousands of years alongside the development of what would eventually dialectically synthesize into the modern nation state form. I think that there is a surprising amount of overlap between anarchy and islam, the notion of non state polycentric law is evidently appealing.
Host should consider actually reading one of his books
Part 2 pleaseeeeee
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This gentleman is an enigma, more “Islamist” than the most die-hard Ikhwani, yet a Christian 😮
Maybe because he is Palestinian by birth….
This is NOT a critique of Dr. Hallaq, but people in a position to impact a change will NOT read a 400-page book (the new book he's working on). I hope it will include a summary chapter "For National Leaders" (For Dummies).
Modernity includes many components: science, technology,philosophy,secularism, democracy, geopolitics etc.
For Muslims , science and technology are to be taken back , while others are just references and most of them to be discarded into trash bin.
That means modern Muslims have to hold full Islam and assimilate modern science to build up independence and strength to bring justice and peace and prosperity to the humanity!
Miller Mission
He had no concrete answers for what sharia-inspired solutions for all-humanity would look like in today’s world. He is understandably consumed by his anger against colonialism and the modern state. But he channels that energy into desperately trying to beautify the history of Islam in contrast, excusing the jizyah (non-Muslim tax) as the price of protection under the Islamic empire in his interview with Radio Thamanya. And here criticising all secularisms without offering real and inclusive alternatives, other than I’m optimistic Islam *one day* could be reinterpreted in less ugly ways than it has often lent itself to. While he’s dreaming of that and enjoying his popularity among nostalgic Islamists, women, queers, and apostates are left to grapple with the reality of Sharia-inspired laws and culture on the ground, which he cowardly valorises from his comfortable Columbia office. I want to be optimistic too about my Muslim community reinterpreting their religion, but we’re losing our lifetimes waiting for them and his discourse only feeds their self-righteousness. We are sick of waiting for Islamic reform and romanticising its past . We want a secular state. Call it dawla madaneyya if it makes you feel better.
A world that makes no moral sense..
Why is this guy living in Canada and not sharia-ruled Afghanistan?
Allaah has condemned theft and decreed an appropriate punishment for it. The hadd punishment for a thief is to cut off his hand. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (as for) the male thief and the female thief, cut off (from the wrist joint) their (right) hands as a recompense for that which they committed, a punishment by way of example from Allaah. And Allaah is All Powerful, All Wise” [al-Maa’idah 5:38]
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The hand should be cut off for (the theft of) a quarter of a dinar or more.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-Hudood, 6291)
This Shariya punishment for theft must be implemented in America, for all Muslims of America, under the able guidance of the professor of Columbia University
Great interview : it is almost like Allahu Himself explaining Shariya for the Kaffirs, is it not ?
I’m sorry to say but I doubt you are able to follow the conversation. Your comment shows your ignorance clearly and no “Dr.” Title, fake or real can distract from that.
Such an excellent and mind boggling exposition of Sharya. Even Allahu can't beat this trash.
You do realise that Hallaq is Christian, right?