Debt And Power - With Michael Hudson

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  • @TruthandJustice4166
    @TruthandJustice4166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I have been following Micheal for years he's an amazing economist and expert in monetary history.

    • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
      @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Der Gorghast In a "managed the Rockefellers" way.

    • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
      @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Der Gorghast So you're not able to look up basic information? Michael Hudson wrote a book called "Super-Imperialism" and because it so well explained capitalism then Hudson was hired as the chief economist - the accountant for the Rockefellers. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hudson_(economist) worked as a balance of payment economist in Chase Manhattan Bank (1964-1968). In 1964, Hudson, who had just received his master's degree in economics, joined Chase Manhattan Bank's research economics department as a balance-of-payments specialist. His task was to establish the payment capacity of Argentina, Brazil and Chile. Based on data on their export earnings and other international payments, Hudson had to find out what kind of income the bank could get from the debt payments that these countries had accumulated. He recalled as such: "I soon found that the Latin American countries I analyzed were fully "loaned up." There were no more hard-currency inflows available to extract as interest on new loans or bond issues. In fact, there was capital flight". Among other important tasks that Hudson performed in Chase Manhattan were an analysis of the balance of payments of the American oil industry and the tracking of dirty money that settled in the banks of Switzerland. According to Hudson, this work has given him invaluable experience in understanding how banks and the financial sector work as well as understanding how banking accounting and real life correlate. It was during the study of oil companies' flows (the study was funded by Chase Manhattan and Socony Oil Company) that Hudson met with Alan Greenspan (future Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors) who acted as an observer for Socony Oil. Hudson recalled that Greenspan had already successfully lobbied the interests of his clients in those years and in the framework of the research tried to provide rough estimates of the American market based on global trends: "Mr. Rockefeller, Chase President, told me to inform Mr. Greenspan that unless he could provide specifically US figures, and/or be forthright about his assumptions, we would have to leave his contribution out of the study".[citation ne

    • @lindamohamed5296
      @lindamohamed5296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      me too

    • @PikachooUpYou
      @PikachooUpYou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 So what you’re saying is he has a first hand knowledge of the financial system from the inside, how evil and corrupt it is and believes it’s the root of almost all of our social economic problems to date. You could have just said that.

    • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
      @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PikachooUpYou If u can repeat what @Der Gorghast had stated first to which I then replied then I can properly reply to you also. thanks

  • @chrish9155
    @chrish9155 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Thank you for bringing up this honest man to your show!

    • @sword7872
      @sword7872 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes so refreshing when someone is honest and cares about the majority. Didn't realise Obama is the worst president of the century!

  • @theobradley5926
    @theobradley5926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Magnificent Interview Mr North. Best to your guest Michael.

  • @OnePunter
    @OnePunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Excellent guest. Very informative, specially this fact: The bigger the stimulus into Wall St (including bail outs), the more that is sucked out of the real economy.

    • @AlienLivesMatter
      @AlienLivesMatter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No bail in or bail out Y User.
      Eat the political pigs

    • @altbinhax
      @altbinhax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Animal Farm

    • @OnePunter
      @OnePunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlienLivesMatter , Who is advocating bail outs?

    • @countchivas
      @countchivas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting history lesson...but he's a BIG GOVERNMENT MARXIST. Perhaps he doesn't know his history that well! LOL

    • @OnePunter
      @OnePunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@countchivas Whatever his persuasion, he gives a good explanation of the status quo.

  • @craigshelton5903
    @craigshelton5903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Michael Hudson is the world’s greatest economist.

  • @tebonete
    @tebonete 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Unbelievable interview thankyou for having michael on first time coming across him

  • @peoplearepower2622
    @peoplearepower2622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Fantastic interview. We really do have to start looking at economics in a different way. Thankyou Martin.

    • @tomtesoro7994
      @tomtesoro7994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      STEVE KEEN has been saying the same critiques of neo-liberalism for a decade. UNTIL neo-liberalism DIES ( by way of a world wide collapse ) WE in OZ will soon see the extreme poverty Mr Hudson has described.. THIS OZ government Worships Wall Street and its bankers ( ps USA capital investment in OZ is now $1 Trillion, with UK @ $500 billion) and thus we in OZ are the new 'serfs' to labour for USA and OZ bankers

    • @peoplearepower2622
      @peoplearepower2622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tomtesoro7994 You may enjoy this with Steve Keen and Michael Hudson -
      www.rt.com/shows/front-running/476294-billionaire-tax-usa-finances/

    • @redsed1565
      @redsed1565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peoplearepower2622 Thanks PAP. Great interview! Go Bernie!

    • @SirQuixoteofLaMancha
      @SirQuixoteofLaMancha 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Three economists worth listening to: Michael Hudson, Richard Werner & Steve Keen.

    • @redsed1565
      @redsed1565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SirQuixoteofLaMancha U should check out this guy named Donlad Trump as well! LOL

  • @annakryzilinski4748
    @annakryzilinski4748 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great guest. He's a great author too. Multiple videos online.
    "Two dynamics define the economy in the 21st century:
    1. We have substituted debt-driven speculation for productive investment.
    2. We have substituted debt for earnings.
    This is why the repricing of speculative-bubble assets can’t be stopped: debt-driven speculation is not a sustainable substitute for investing in increasing productivity.
    And debt-fueled consumption
    masquerading as “investment” is not a sustainable substitute for limiting consumption to what we earn and save."

    • @MrDan557
      @MrDan557 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said! Spot on.

  • @BreakingNewGrounds1
    @BreakingNewGrounds1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always a pleasure to hear Mr. Hudson's clear headed perspective on economic issues. He's very unlike the vast majority of economists who behave more like propogandists.

  • @navudreneterovic2259
    @navudreneterovic2259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Legend! Finally you put some really substance in that was easy to follow for the everyday person. More of that because that's the people who really need to know the truth. You've done a real service to the public by having Michael on. So happy😁

  • @occupyyourmind4418
    @occupyyourmind4418 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So glad there are people like Mike Hudson speaking out.

    • @WalkTheWorldDFA
      @WalkTheWorldDFA  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes a clear voice at a time of uncertainty!

  • @keithmartin2440
    @keithmartin2440 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    A fantastically frank and clear explanation of what we are facing now, and quite possibly into the future. Thank you both for your hard work and sharing of your vast knowledge. Greatest respect.

  • @nuvisionprinting
    @nuvisionprinting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Holy sweet Jesus! I've beem waiting for a guest of this stature for a long time on your channel! I'll be contributing to your PayPal if you can keep up having guests of this stature!
    I have read his other book J is for junk economics! Awesome read!
    Keep up the hard work Martin!

    • @PikachooUpYou
      @PikachooUpYou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read some David Graeber books. They are/were(RIP) friends and worked together. “Bullshit Jobs” “Debt” etc. Amazing and excellent work.

    • @nuvisionprinting
      @nuvisionprinting 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PikachooUpYou I have been following and reading some of his work for years! David is an intellectual that is ahead of his time & honestly I think he managed to get on the wrong side of quite a few by speaking the truth!

  • @KS-yj1px
    @KS-yj1px 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great guest!

  • @thomashainsworth5161
    @thomashainsworth5161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Best guest. I've recommended Michael Hudson to all my online contacts. His ideas are becoming popular with millennials and those who know that our economies are just rentier parties funded by central bank confetti. I recommend watching this alongside Steve Keen's latest on Renegade Inc.

  • @LeaPustetto
    @LeaPustetto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Hes a genius. Thanks for having Michael on. Great video.

  • @domgreco7
    @domgreco7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favorite economist. 🙏🏼

  • @geor664
    @geor664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for bringing in Prof. Hudson. Wonderful material.

  • @malcross2044
    @malcross2044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, Martin...I am so happy to see one of my favorite people ever on your show! I love to use folks like MH to teach my students-at jobs like the one I have just told I do not have in 2 weeks. MH is fun and fascinating to listen to. A great time to talk about "too much debt" in Australia.
    To any watching, Michael Hudson has given several fascinating talks that can be found on youtube on this and related topics and he explains so well. Thanks Michael!

  • @cheninblanc8208
    @cheninblanc8208 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hudson is always a great guest...........have him on as a regular.

  • @Waynesworrldexcellent
    @Waynesworrldexcellent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wow only half way in but great guest Martin!

  • @masteryoda498
    @masteryoda498 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, and Michael Hudson is a great guest.
    I think this wise old saying sums up the economic mess the world finds itself in:
    “The world has enough for every man’s need, BUT NOT every man’s GREED”.

  • @christopherdobbie
    @christopherdobbie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hudson, awesome. It's all a command economy I recall him saying, this should be good.

  • @PikachooUpYou
    @PikachooUpYou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best episode of your show by far. Please have Michael on as often as possible. It’s a shame David Graeber is no longer with us RIP. They worked together but David was a king among economic anthropologists.

    • @WalkTheWorldDFA
      @WalkTheWorldDFA  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks - yes I hope to have Michael on again sometime...

  • @geb9927
    @geb9927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The bailing out of these corporations is what blows my mind. The government rewards them for corruption and mismanagement. The government hands over money but takes no stake in ownership??? Would the same government hand over money to bail to bail me out of my mortgage and take no stake when it does so?

    • @OMGAnotherday
      @OMGAnotherday 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      GEB - Not government, Oligarchs. We lost our governments a long time ago.

    • @AlienLivesMatter
      @AlienLivesMatter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah L N, donors own our bought’n’paid4 politicians.
      The political system is designed to obfuscate the rights of regular taxpayers, while preferential treatment is given to wholesale tax evaders and political donors.
      Anger is a byproduct of frustration, violence is a choice...
      Let’s hope our predatory politicians don’t leave violence as the only viable option for change.

    • @OMGAnotherday
      @OMGAnotherday 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jæ Š - Agree, But I don’t know who will carry out the violence, I see lots of calls for violence, but no ordinary person quite rightly wants anything to do with that, I certainly don’t want any blood she’d in my name. I have thought about damaging property as part of a protest, but it’s only a thought.
      This is a war of attrition, and right now the Oligarchs have all the power, all the money and all the weapons, I don’t know how we are going to get out of this.
      I think the lockdown came because we were causing them trouble, and they used the marshal law card( or next thing to marshal law).
      I could be wrong on all of this of course, but I don’t think so.

    • @Erumyr
      @Erumyr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The companies are owned by the people in government duh?

    • @ccahill2322
      @ccahill2322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is cognitive dissonance. It applies to the vast majority of citizens. The government is not responsible to you the voter citizen they are, quite simply the agents/employees of those who print the money. You will not understand this fact until you educate yourself ,until you realize "the Emperor has no clothes".

  • @thethinkingman9338
    @thethinkingman9338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This interview & your last one have been among the most educational I have ever watched. Thank you so very much for bring these high caliber guest on to help us grow our knowledge base - outstanding!

  • @johndouglass3010
    @johndouglass3010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you again Martin.
    There is zero lateral thinking about the big picture of this broken economy.

  • @philipjames5054
    @philipjames5054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Martin you are a pretty smart guy in financial matters to be sure. But I got the very strong impression from you that Hudson showed you a whole new slant on world economic history and how we have arrived at this unserviceable worldwide debt crisis, as he did the rest of us. I now see more clearly why China and Russia are detaching from this disastrous situation with the USD which is a unit of debt from the moment it is conjured out of thin air and issued. Thank you for this fantastic video.

    • @Fordcryptofairlane123
      @Fordcryptofairlane123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      philip james are u delusional u don’t think China & Russia aren’t the next proxy! Come on champ they are 4 steps ahead of the situation ! China will be the new proxy and the beat goes on ! Oops minus a few pensioners who probably fought in wars orchestrated by these bastards !

    • @philipjames5054
      @philipjames5054 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peter North no I’m not delusional and I’m not into your interpretation of what China and Russia are doing. I’ve heard all sorts of theories and yours is just a variation on some of them. Let’s agree to disagree and leave it at that.

  • @Bobafe77a
    @Bobafe77a 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A very interesting discussion. And as you mentioned Martin, this topic about debt today is fundamental and should be on everyone's lips.

  • @eyesee1212
    @eyesee1212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”
    ― Napoleon Bonaparte

    • @eyesee1212
      @eyesee1212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate to inform you, but your Chinese Government is in debt too to the elite, www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock. they have a economy too.

    • @eyesee1212
      @eyesee1212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but only in China, not the world and they are in debt to the world elites.

    • @eyesee1212
      @eyesee1212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your right, but trust me the elites are behind this crisis. remember 1 years loss to them is like losing $1.00

    • @eyesee1212
      @eyesee1212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ki Wise. This is just a trial run for the elites to test the sheeple out to how far they can get away with. This virus is a bio weapon, different strains in different areas. I'm sure they have been vaccinated against it already. and I'm not talking about the billionaire's here I'm talking about the gilzilionaire who's money is 3 pages higher on the chart of the rich list.

    • @aguilayserpiente
      @aguilayserpiente 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @kl wies All recessions are the cleaning of the market of competitors. Ashenfelter and Penvacel (1980). Effective 2016, the markets were already inflated, i.e. Greenspan's over exuberance. 1.5 mil from TB, 650,000 from Influenza the common cold, etc, die annually. This light Corona illness was.fortuitous for monopoly capital to clear the market. Now, monopoly capital will in by the 1/4th quarter acquire all of the merchandise and market share of the broken businesses.
      "Mayhem" is an image of the end of the capitalist state wrought by the media to deify the State. Be assured that the corporate advertisers will direct the news media tooth paste vendors to report the light at the end of the tunnel and their State tools to report "mission accomplished" bringing a sudden end to the production cessation. No, the workers of the world will not unite, as a build up of organizing growing class conscious peasants did not occur in any nation post 1965 to be a catalyst for revolution. See Fitzgerald, Francis, "Fire in the Lake," see also Gilbert, Dennis, "Sandinistas."

  • @yuromacviva3695
    @yuromacviva3695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    good stuff martin ,ive read some of his stuff on zero hedge or globalresearch cant remember which it was.we are going to need your channel I hope you stay healthy .and everyone else be carefull out there and stay awesome.

  • @turbostyler
    @turbostyler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, I can't believe i missed this episode. It's probably the most relevant talking point of our lives, yet even I missed it.

  • @OnePunter
    @OnePunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Moral Hazard! The only solution is to let those that took on the risk go under!

    • @davefinlay3252
      @davefinlay3252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah young family first home buyers that finally saved enough for a deposit and just wanted to get out of the rent cycle
      Fuk em

    • @aguilayserpiente
      @aguilayserpiente 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Credit finance is an indispensable part of industrial society as few sectors have the liquidity to make capital purchases: equipment for the trades, student loans, income generating real estate like farming, income generating vehicles, airplanes, mining equipment, etc.

    • @aguilayserpiente
      @aguilayserpiente 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jj-gi2uv equipment for trades= wrenches=workers.

    • @aguilayserpiente
      @aguilayserpiente 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @TheCanMan Can Since 1990 Your posts are incoherent.

    • @aguilayserpiente
      @aguilayserpiente 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @TheCanMan Can Since 1990 Access to credit lending is indispensable in capitalism, exposing the weakest sectors to insurmountable debt. Individual consumers suffer asset shortage in capitalism and cannot purchase essentials such as food, housing, medical care, and education, in particular with declining real wages and extraction of their savings during recessionary cycles:
      The stagnant finances of American households are no surprise given the dismal performance of the U.S. economy since the middle of the last decade. Figure 1 shows the gross domestic product (GDP), the most commonly-used summary metric of U.S. economic health, from 1970 to 2011 in real (inflation-adjusted) dollars and nominal (non-inflation-adjusted) dollars. The flat real GDP growth and slow nominal growth since 2005 stands out from the trend of generally increasing GDP of the last 40 years. The 16.5% real growth between 2000 and 2010 is less than half the growth
      rate in each of the prior three decades. The decline in real and nominal GDP from 2007 to 2009 represented the first nominal decline in GDP in 60 years and the years and the largest real decline since the Bureau of Economic Analysis began keeping statistics in 1929.
      Wolff, Sarah D. “The State of Lending in America and Its Impact on U.S. Households.” Center for Responsible Lending, (June 16, 2015) ; www.responsiblelending.org/the-state-of-lending; C.F. Darrick Hamilton and William A. Darity, Jr., "The Political Economy of Education, Financial Literacy, and the Racial Wealth Gap" (Federal Research Research Series, Review, Vol. 99, Issue 1, 2017), pp. 1, 61-62, peer reviewing "State of Lending in America and its impact on U.S. Households," (When it comes to liquid assets-financial assets that can be readily converted into cash-Blacks and Latinos are nearly penniless. Based on the 2011 Survey of Income and Program Participation (SIPP), Black families have about $200 in median liquid assets, which is over 100 times less than White families with $23,000 in median liquid assets (Tippet et al., 2014). For Latino families, the median is only $340, while the Asian median estimate is $19,400. Moreover, if retirement savings are removed from our estimates of liquid assets, then the typical White or Asian family has only $3,000 in liquid assets. That is dramatically larger than the $100 and $25 respective “financial cushions” for Latino and Black families to deal with any expected or unexpected expenses or budgetary shortfalls. To put this in context, $25 would not be enough to feed a Black family of four for a single day). papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/fedlrv00073.pdf?abstractid=2918735&mirid=1
      In a market whereby asymmetric business ventures, essential governmental services, and individuals do not have adequate assets, lending became essential to basic operations:
      Credit provision. Credit fuels economic activity by allowing businesses to invest beyond their cash on hand, households to purchase homes without saving the entire cost in advance, and governments to smooth out their spending by mitigating the cyclical pattern of tax revenues and to invest in infrastructure projects. Banks directly provide a substantial amount of credit in the U.S., but, unlike in almost any other economy, financial markets are the ultimate providers of most credit.
      Liquidity provision. Businesses and households need to have protection against unexpected needs for cash. Banks are the main direct providers of liquidity, both through offering demand deposits that can be withdrawn any time and by offering lines of credit. Further, banks and their affiliates are at the core of the financial markets, offering to buy and sell securities and related products at need, in large volumes, with relatively modest transaction costs. This latter role is particularly important in the U.S., given the dominance of markets, but is often under-appreciated.
      Risk management services. Finance allows businesses and households to pool their risks from exposures to financial market and commodity price risks. Much of this is provided by banks through derivatives transactions. These have gotten a bad name due to excesses in the run-up to the financial crisis but the core derivatives activities provide valuable risk management services.
      Baily, Martin Neil, Elliott, Douglas J., "The Role of Finance in the Economy: Implications for Structural Reform of the Financial Sector" (The Brookings Institution, July 11, 2013), pp. 1-2. www.brookings.edu%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F06%2F11-finance-role-in-economy-baily-elliott.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1Kmu-gE5LdCposL80zxG_P
      C.F. The Political Economy of Education, Financial Literacy, and the Racial Wealth Gap" at pp. 1 "meager economic circumstance-not poor decisionmaking or deficient knowledge-constrains choice itself and leaves borrowers with little to no other option but to use predatory and abusive alternative financial services."

  • @andypatch1861
    @andypatch1861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've watched many videos on economic theory recently, and this without doubt one of the best on TH-cam, I particularly like the historic references, many thanks to both parties. The Netflix "look over there, not over here" reference is sooo true, just like the 'bread and circus' anecdotes from Roman time......So I'm sharpening my pitchfork as I speak, you guys just give me the heads up about when we're storming the central banks!

  • @rohanjones7238
    @rohanjones7238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Shared on social media hope people take the time to watch and have the insight to understand and the foresight to make personal decisions to resist

  • @adelchidipalma46
    @adelchidipalma46 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It should bve called "fake debts and criminal power". Dear Michael Hudson I love the fact that at least you are not afraid to expose the banker's crimes. If you suggest debt forgiveness you are admitting that there was a bone-fide debt which is false. We need debt repudiation and the bankers must make restitution for the amount of money they robbed most nations.

  • @gloglos100
    @gloglos100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Than you great talk.

  • @anthonytrothe3269
    @anthonytrothe3269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a wonderfully enlightened guest you have here Martin. I do enjoy your shows .

  • @greghay2142
    @greghay2142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great info from both of you, well done

  • @jackau08
    @jackau08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, the legend of debt based economic pandemic research. I got all Michaels books, very insightful research.

    • @yosbudi5708
      @yosbudi5708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh Jack i Finally Find you, you got message from....

    • @jackau08
      @jackau08 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yosbudi5708 ??

  • @nachannachle2706
    @nachannachle2706 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Michael Hudson is the Richard Feynman of Economics. Thanks for sharing this video. :)

  • @tinaryan4023
    @tinaryan4023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    11:20 Good that you asked the crucial question regarding who the central banks are working for

  • @VichoBandido
    @VichoBandido 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic Martin. And thank you Michael, as always, very powerful messages.

  • @aspant4814
    @aspant4814 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    An honest man who doesn't mince words. Citigroup must love him. I don't agree with jubilee but he does make good points about the banks inflating the greatest debt bubble the world has ever seen. Currently over 250tn. Great guest. Thanks.

  • @walkyourdog6584
    @walkyourdog6584 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very interesting guest.

  • @4ssiduous
    @4ssiduous 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Martin and Michael for sharing! This knowledge is so important for the freedom and living standards of the 99%, and thus needs to be more commonly known.

  • @markillingworth1929
    @markillingworth1929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Probably one of your best friend Martin..

  • @matthewturen4379
    @matthewturen4379 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best talk. We, people following this channel know what is the reality, but how this situation will turn around to benefit the people? It looks like there is no hope for the masses until "Mad Max" times comes along in the future.

  • @MrDan557
    @MrDan557 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hudson is the best economist on the planet. I like our own Steve Keen as well.

  • @1VirginiaL
    @1VirginiaL 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I. had never heard of this channel, but when Michael Hudson said that the 15 or so people who were talking about his concerns had been guests here (26:12), I subscribed.

  • @rickbishop5987
    @rickbishop5987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes- Michael Hudson.

  • @CA999
    @CA999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oh goodie! A special!

  • @100perdido
    @100perdido 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The beauty of Capitalism and banking is that a bank can make a mortgage loan of $250,000 at 5% interest using money they don't have, money they created, and charge the borrower a total of $483,000 over a 30 year period. The bank does not get to keep the original $250, 000 they printed but they do get to keep the interest of $233,000 the borrower paid.
    So for each 1 Million Dollars (4 houses) a bank can create and loan out at 5%, they make $932,000. For 1 Billion Dollars worth of loans (4000 houses) the bank makes at this rate, they make $932 Million Dollars in interest.
    A small town of 40,000 homes (around 120,000 or so inhabitants) would net the bank $9,320,000,000.00 over 30 years. That is 9 Billion Three Hundred Twenty Million Dollars in interest off this town of 40,000 homes.
    For a city of 400,000 of these homes, or around 1.5 Million people, the interest collected increases by another factor of 10, bringing the interest collected to $932,000,000,000. That's Nine Hundred Thirty Two Billion Dollars just in interest collected by the banks with money they printed in the back office.

  • @marcoeloco3936
    @marcoeloco3936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a fantastic explanation from Micheal Hudson, great stuff. Thank you Martin.

  • @arffadailey8055
    @arffadailey8055 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @Walk The World Martin congratulations .One of your best.

  • @bonusshaker9260
    @bonusshaker9260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Steve Keen been saying this for years.

    • @tomsoleymanbik3266
      @tomsoleymanbik3266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bonus Shaker so what every gambler wins at some point doesn't mean his right! What a stupid thing to say, your logic sucks.

    • @falakoala4579
      @falakoala4579 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Keen looks exhausted and bittered. All due respect to him, he is very smart and he was right eventually. But at what cost.
      Then we reset and do it all again 🎈

    • @AdamSahr-cj4kf
      @AdamSahr-cj4kf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not too many of us are keen on Steve Keen because he always fails on the PR and PC (political correctness) fronts. Perhaps that's why he is such a thorn...

    • @lunarmodule6419
      @lunarmodule6419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tomsoleymanbik3266 What we mean is Keen has been denoncing for years the bad or currupt management of central banks and Govs. And this at the expense of the population at large. Lower wages, less secure jobs, high private debts levels just to feed and house families.

    • @AdamSahr-cj4kf
      @AdamSahr-cj4kf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Der Gorghast We are so well brainwashed that we have morphed into pussycat-like creatures that can only tolerate half truths carefully wrapped.

  • @swaldron5451
    @swaldron5451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The politicians and financiers will be working on the principle of 'never let a good crisis go to waste'.

  • @csleuthone6385
    @csleuthone6385 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Michael, your brilliant! I've been following you for the past year, thank you!

  • @henrynguyen9593
    @henrynguyen9593 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best i must say. Micheal provides a great inside into that grey area of society. Facts and reasonable argument that does not go too far into conspiracy. Also, it is unfair that the 1% is trying to down the market to shift everyone’s wealth into theirs, it does makes me think a bit when considering Theory of Evolution.

  • @someoneelse.2252
    @someoneelse.2252 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just came across this clip. Great questions and your guest, Michael Hudson was both informed and explained his answers well. Many thanks from Canada. (subscribed)

  • @finarfin9939
    @finarfin9939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    No, private debt should not be forgiven. It undermines those that saw the scam that was going and took sensible amount of debt that was managable. This is no different to bailing out the banks. If you don't like bailing out unscrupulous gamblers because of their greed. Why should you have pity on those that took on more debt than they can manage and live it up while you suffer for you sensible choice. I disagree. Let them suffer and let those that made the sensible decisions be rewarded for using their brains.

  • @SteveSmith-zz4ih
    @SteveSmith-zz4ih 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent informative video thanks.

  • @damianbowyer6258
    @damianbowyer6258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gr8 Discussion Michael and Martin.

  • @Fordcryptofairlane123
    @Fordcryptofairlane123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Martin this episode was like watching the ending of The Usual Suspects when the detective just realises who Keyser Söze really is ! ☕️ oops don’t drop that cup of tea!

  • @morwickchesterham3875
    @morwickchesterham3875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:50... such a simple question... and an obvious answer... too bad so many people are blind to the obvious

  • @shareefcondon
    @shareefcondon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interest always leads to stealing people's wealth and debt enslavement.

  • @michaelayliffe7238
    @michaelayliffe7238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    His other book J is for Junk Economic, it explains the Orwellian economic double speek, a dictionary. Plenty of his interviews on the tube, where he explains the geography of wall street.

  • @wrongthink1212
    @wrongthink1212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Usury is a sin for a reason. This guy is smart. He sees things from a long term perspective.

  • @CookieMonster-wy4qb
    @CookieMonster-wy4qb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank u Martin ! 👌

  • @tomtesoro7994
    @tomtesoro7994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    could the 5 viewers who 'thumbed down' please take their medication!

    • @Fabio-ns4ql
      @Fabio-ns4ql 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Err.... those would be the 5 big Oz banks.

  • @ashleybeven9065
    @ashleybeven9065 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant chat Martin thank you!

  • @lukes5533
    @lukes5533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow what an insight into the real way the world is ruled

  • @MrMfiling
    @MrMfiling 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    that was beautiful Michael Hudson, thank you.

    • @WalkTheWorldDFA
      @WalkTheWorldDFA  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks - yes, I thought this was a special conversation, especially now!

  • @tomgreg2008
    @tomgreg2008 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yank here. Great show! Thanks!

  • @huffmanaviation7341
    @huffmanaviation7341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Have a read of the Bankers Manifesto 1829 if you've not already. It's only short

    • @joeybrown3583
      @joeybrown3583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bankers Manifesto 1892 (get the date right)
      This is good too
      th-cam.com/video/WSDjvok-fW8/w-d-xo.html

    • @huffmanaviation7341
      @huffmanaviation7341 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ninja4ssasin th-cam.com/video/G9rcgo28nG0/w-d-xo.html little video of it

  • @rosebiceps
    @rosebiceps 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need a Debt Jubilee for the Working Class Not the Banker/Corporate Class. In 2008 we had a Debt Jubilee for the Wall Street Bankers and Big Banks. The workers were thrown under the bus!!! Thanks President Obama!!

  • @nowwhereisthetruth2475
    @nowwhereisthetruth2475 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great content. thanks Mr North.
    history doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes

    • @nowwhereisthetruth2475
      @nowwhereisthetruth2475 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @chris0tube they didn't have CDS's and CLO's nor the electronic means of issuing fiat currency in 3000 BC. so it rhymes.
      while the whole world falls apart do you really need to attack some rando on yt.
      heading back to me rock

  • @73donjohn
    @73donjohn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what trolls dislike this video? Stop watching TROLLS!!! Brilliant video, thank you!

  • @adroitcozy
    @adroitcozy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Don't borrow more than you can repay.

    • @wingkeechan5329
      @wingkeechan5329 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be safe, don't borrow more than you can repay PLUS with a sizeable savings...

    • @Aermydach
      @Aermydach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like the saying "Don't write a cheque that you're arse can't cash!"
      But, yeah. Self-discipline is easier said than done. We've all been conditioned to live lives of maximum convenience and instant-gratification.

    • @adroitcozy
      @adroitcozy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Aermydach and an endless amount of credit. Credit cards are evil.

    • @redsed1565
      @redsed1565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Aermydach only if ur stupid!

  • @lauralucio314
    @lauralucio314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Debt Jubilee for the people!

  • @waynebow-gu7wr
    @waynebow-gu7wr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think we have just been told ( without actually saying it ), the only way out !

    • @OMGAnotherday
      @OMGAnotherday 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      waynebow 2018 - But will the Oligarchs allow it, or would they rather just let the human race go to hell, because they have their paradise islands and their private armies?

    • @waynebow-gu7wr
      @waynebow-gu7wr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OMGAnotherday Call me what you want... but I think that maybe they are 'stealing' as much money from us as quickly as possible, to build underground shelters for an on coming natural disaster. Unknown civilizations keep vanishing from the earth due to floods etc. The Tartarian Empire being a great example. Knowledge is being kept from us !

    • @OMGAnotherday
      @OMGAnotherday 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      waynebow 2018 - I Agree, I wouldn’t call you anything but a person with an open mind.
      Most people can’t believe that there are individuals on this planet that couldn’t care less about others, they are called sociopaths and psychopaths, and we know exactly what kind of behaviour they are capable of.
      The fact that the modern world has enabled them to congregate and communicate has only enhanced their power, and yes they and their system is destroying the human race.
      I’m not sure if the rest of us will be strong enough to arrest the planet back from these people, however I can see that their measures of control have to be stronger and more intense each time the system gets into trouble.
      With regards to natural disaster, well there is no underground bunker that will save them, if it’s so bad they have to go underground, then the likelihood of them surviving in the long term is small, and even if they do, how do you think a bunch of psychopaths will survive in the event of them being the only ones left, it would not be long before they turned on each other that being their nature!

    • @waynebow-gu7wr
      @waynebow-gu7wr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OMGAnotherday Good point. They would all be used to giving orders and having their own way. They wouldn't be able to work as a team to survive.

    • @OMGAnotherday
      @OMGAnotherday 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      waynebow 2018 - Exactly, and I think this is one of the major factors that we need to keep in mind.
      “We the people” get called sheep, but in actual fact we are the people that keep the world going round.
      It will be 100’s of years before they can do away with human labour completely, so “they” need us whether they like it or not.

  • @davidleeandrew5756
    @davidleeandrew5756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is worthwhile & sensible. Unfortunately, near the end, the guest refers to 'libertarianism' in the sense Americans use it: minimal government. Here in Australia (& UK) too, we use the JS Mill definition: that a person should be at liberty to behave as they like so long as their behaviour has no adverse effect on others. Put another way, that restrictions on liberty, whether legal or religious or social or familial, should be NECESSARY rather than ideological or paternalistic. This is quite consistent with BIG government doing the planning & undertaking redistributive economic responsibilities. To someone in the US, it seems a contradiction. There are many examples of US English usage diverging in confusing ways from the rest of the English speaking world.

  • @timmortimer7528
    @timmortimer7528 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A very topical interview still now in December 2023..
    I think my favourite insight amongst the many is that “bad debt” should be thought of as “bad loans”. My understanding is that mercantile or business to business debt would not be written off however year to year consumer debt could be - at least to some extent in order to free up the productivity of the economy. A long term strategy to build the economy would therefore have to be put in place beforehand, and a public bank could be part of this equation.

    • @WalkTheWorldDFA
      @WalkTheWorldDFA  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks - yes the content is probably even more relevant now....

  • @sazajac77z
    @sazajac77z 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing interview. Thank you guys.

  • @zarkoristov5585
    @zarkoristov5585 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Walk the world.
    Your videos are not only transparent but crystal clear.Almost bettet than 8k UHD 200hz screen.Love it ;)

  • @gptech2444
    @gptech2444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What about the people that didn't borrow recklessly and paid back their debt?

    • @KOGitnow
      @KOGitnow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t have debt. More than happy to have debt forgiveness.
      I also don’t have corona 🤞. But keen for those who do to get treatment.

    • @gptech2444
      @gptech2444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@billythekid9821 Serious? The irresponsible get bailed out or do we all get an equal handout?

    • @gptech2444
      @gptech2444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KOGitnow That makes no sense.

  • @denischang8621
    @denischang8621 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is again brilliant, thanks Martin 👏

  • @georgekeiser3867
    @georgekeiser3867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Martin, you look chuffed that you;re interviewing him. Dr Hudson is awesome, I've read his books and love his work. He cops a lot of criticism for being Marxist, but how can you be Marxist if you're an excellent economist who understands history?

    • @georgekeiser3867
      @georgekeiser3867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@billythekid9821 that sounds Marxist...

    • @anthonythomas4541
      @anthonythomas4541 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He is criticised for being Marxist by the Totalitarians because he is actually a Capitalist.

    • @georgekeiser3867
      @georgekeiser3867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@anthonythomas4541 That's right, but some people don't understand that

    • @OMGAnotherday
      @OMGAnotherday 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Billy The Kid - You are an uneducated idiot!

  • @speaksistereasy4504
    @speaksistereasy4504 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great discussion

  • @mytechpeople
    @mytechpeople 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have extra pitchforks...

  • @hoffhomme7106
    @hoffhomme7106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stage 1 begins........NAB conjuring the idea of foregoing home mortgage payments for 6 mths, that's avg loan of 400k allowing borrowers to keep approx 11k over that period to assist with their living cost's...........Of Course!! they can afford to do this now that rates are virtually ZERO, so weighing up the potential outcomes is it better to foreclose on over a million mortgages OR run at slight loss?

  • @bleore
    @bleore 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hudson is a fount of wisdom. Best part of this interview was at the very end when he said liberty is the preserve of the rich. The working class has been suckered by the reactionaries for decades with the illusion that liberty applies to them, too. It's a big club and you ain't in it.

  • @richardk5209
    @richardk5209 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. It's pay back time !!!

  • @kulturfreund6631
    @kulturfreund6631 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this highly interesting interview. I’ve seen Mr. Hudson before on Keiser Report. Very good insights.
    Author Michael Ruppert, when appearing on „America - Freedom to Fascism“, said concerning the difference between Democrats and Republicans:
    „It’s like a crap game,, with lots of money. You just call the Republicans the Gambinos and the Democrats the Genoveses. Occasionally somebody shoots each other at the table, but as soon as somebody threatens their crap game, they all unite to protect it.“
    Or as it once appeared in a Simpsons-sequel:
    You have the option to vote either for John Jackson or to vote for Jack Johnson.
    „It’s a crap

  • @hchishtis
    @hchishtis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I'm the guy who's cleared his debts over time while my neighbour hasn't paid his. Why should he have his forgiven, while I've paid mine? Is anybody else thinking this?

  • @johnellis5768
    @johnellis5768 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If we value others as more important than our self, than we live within our means and avoid at all cost becoming a burden on others by a huge debt and bankruptcy.
    Problem is, the vast majority consider their importance above all others and debt for them is good it it enables them to seek all pleasure and avoid all pain.

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Net profit hasn't gone up turnover costs gone up and to Alp & Green liars this is proft increasing it not ... net profit fallen decades for small & medium and franchise. The corporation proft off Franchise owner globally and shareholders putting money in a Corporaton why CEO earn milions salary

  • @michaeljp9605
    @michaeljp9605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great interview Martin, and great guest. Unless something changes our youth is screwed, clearly they want our elderly out of the way. Time for a revolution I think.

  • @timmcmaster6435
    @timmcmaster6435 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you both ❤️

  • @bjkhy5297
    @bjkhy5297 ปีที่แล้ว

    great show thanks please try to get these ideas on our so called independent ABC

  • @Dcioutsourcing
    @Dcioutsourcing 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great economist amd writer. Bring on Steve Keen and Stephanie Kelton too. :). Thanks