So, I've seen Jing Yuan work very well on both halves (much better than my run), it depends on your other available DPS. Like if you have Jingliu, then I would use JY on 2nd. Imo DHIL is pain on the first half (E2 is an exception for everything), so stick to the second one. I think we can definitely be one cycle faster on both sides, it's just a bit RNG depended. Thanks for watching. :D
Jank relic/team video uploads are always the best- goes to show it's still doable on rainbow for anybody even if it isn't optimal. Thanks again for your uploads!
@@aFireBlaze There was another JY clear on TH-cam with rainbow relics on everyone and I was like "omg thats me fr" lmao. While I'm glad being relatable, let's say I still rather want a finished set lmaooooo
hey I wanted to ask what is better for Jingyuan spd or atk boots I have him on speed boots with enough speed substates with Ruan Mei to get him to 141 speed (faster than lighting lord) and my Tingyun is using Planetary Rendezvous S5 but I've seen a lot of JingYuan mains using ATK boot with tingyun on dance dance dance! so I wanted to ask which one is better. (my dance dance dance is S3)
I have very similiar ATK% and SPD% boots since beginning of the game, and imo ATK% boots always performed better for me. My DDD is S2, so it definitely works. And up until this video I was also using Planetary S5, and it worked fine for me ( I did not try Planetary this MoC ). IMO you can safely level your DDD since Pure Fiction may want you to run 3 Supports anyway, then you can slap your DDD on someone else and have TY on Planetary again. So IMO if you run this team, get ATK% boots, ignore SPD, and level DDD as it's a very safe choice, even in the future.
@@straypeanut Thank you sm for the help! the only thing I am missing is his lc hopefully getting it soon on his rerun may all jingyuan wanters be havers
Hey, I've been a bit troubled picking either DHIL or JY to pull for on 2.0. Since you have both, could you say in your experience who would be better to pull for? My possible supports are tingyun, asta, and yukong (and other supports from upcoming banners like hanya)
This is a difficult question without knowing a lot about your account, but I will try my best! So, on a very base level DHIL is better/easier. He has self-buffs that can help with low relic stats if you just started out (which I'm guessing because of your supports). You can pair him with Tingyun and Yukong and can brute-force a lot of things, but he will shine more in Imaginary-Weakness-Enemies because of his traits. However you should already have Dr Ratio, who will help you cover Imaginary enemies and cover more weakness advantage is kind of better imo. Also if Yukong isn't E6 then it's kind of a pain to play her. Jing Yuan has low self buffs, but high multiplier which means he scales better on higher investment. You want to play him with Tingyun and Asta/Hanya. On my account JY feels better, because I invested in him more than DHIL. I use JY to bruteforce a lot of things. May want his Signature Weapon. So, without knowing a lot, both are more than viable to clear the highest difficulty content, so feel free to "go for the one you like more". Else, probably Dan Heng IL for now.
Me trying my best 🫠 Basicially I have no set effect because the substats I have on there will lead to worse performance than just going rainbow. Working on it since half a year tho. 🫡 One day, surely.
Same thing happened to RM buffs (not sure if it was in this run) idk what happened, i wasnt even tired when i record it, but i always noticed too late. oops. 🥲
I would stick to Hanya, I used her before RM. She can give infinite uptime on her buffs on JY and the necessary SPD for LL. I can see SW working in this particular MoC as well since DEF shred stacks so good in this game, but don't quote me on that, I don't have her myself to test it.
@@straypeanut Thank you for taking your time to answer me. Since i have E4 Hanya, i think i will use her in general, but i will test SW too. I hope i can get Jing Yuan tho, he's my favorite since the beta.
@@xArufen If it's for any future plans and if your pulls allows it (and if you like her), might as try your luck on Sparkle, her kit is perfect for Jing Yuan. So your team will be JY, Tingyun, Sparkle, Sustain. Else E4 Hanya is even better than mine on E0, so this will be no problem. :)
@@straypeanut I'm currently at the 50/50 with 50 pity for Jing Yuan and guaranteed on LC banner, i plan to use Penacony's resources to try him. I did not think of Sparkle as someone good to JY's team, i will try to get her too, thanks for the advice.
@@xArufen Here's a copypaste of another comment I did: JY works so well, because his own buffs isn't oversaturated with anything. He doesn't rely on only one type of buff (CritDMG, DMG%, ATK%) and his damage is well spread between Skill, Ultimate and Follow-Up. Sparkle can exactly give him this: CritDMG, DMG%, ATK% AND can cover Lightning Lord hits as well, something we couldn't abuse with Bronya. Being able to action-forward means that JY can take more turns for more LL stacks. Being SP positive means that Tingyun can use her skill for more Energy leading to more Energy for Jing Yuan as well = more Lightning Lord stacks.
Man the part where LL hit everything but lightning lord for sure stinks. I'm pretty positive with some planning like basic attacking at 1% HP(to not speed up Ll) you probably could've made LL act slow enough so that the fruit would make the deer use his nuke, wiping out the plants and allowing for LL to follow up immediately afterwards. It is two turns of Jing Yuan's turns wasted however and the turbulence also being random in applying SPD debuffs not helping, so idk how the outcome would've truly been- I'm probably cooking a bit too much lol. I think for the final cycle it would've worked- Yukong did so much damage she's just absolutely cracked of a harmony. Congratulations for another clear with the two kings! Always nice to see your way of handling it(no e6 Yukong + Luocha and running completely different teammates- I've settled with Ruan Mei, Hanya and FX after some further damage testing). Can't wait for the sparkle banner now! 🙏
You're correct in everything but like you said - MAYBE there are other things which would have screw me up later and things won't align up again. Worst case is just keep retrying until somehow everything aligns, but for now I take that run. :D My original plan was to sacrifice some Crit Rate for Crit Damage and gamble on the crits to kill the roots, but days are busy right now, so I didn't retry it. (Though this is already the best Crit Ratio I can manage so far. I will live in FuA Domain for the rest of my life.) My Yukong is on SubDPS build, because I saw her offensive traces and was like "naah, i'm not gonna waste that". But yea, I was so worried that I won't be able to kill Kafka (and I really don't want to risk another manipulation skill), I just spam everything on Kafka until the end when I went "HUH. MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE---". Penacony Patch is so stacked, I wish everyone the best trying for anyone. & Kuze theme is always a banger. :D
@@straypeanut LOL it's always afterwards when you look back at your recording and think "dang that actually could've worked." Happens to me many times on a potential cycle or two saved. Dosent help sometimes your brain goes "unga bunga" so you do something and later run into a potential mistake that snowballs into something unfavorable.
@@aFireBlaze I still lowkey wish we have an Take-back-the-Ult option. So many times I was like "damn why did i click that." But yes, ever since I start recording I feel like I learned a LOT about this game.
@@straypeanut footage to look back up on seriously helps! Especially as the meta continues to evolve on specific enemy patterns, it'd good to note of how they will move as they always have a set rotation. And yeah taking back ultimate usage would be a massive game changer- controller users meanwhile already can pause in between so what's stopping us from not having something also? (Thats my cope for having Lynx ult button ready to mash to counter a potential attack only to be resisted because my brain goes too fast, skill issue)
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So, I've seen Jing Yuan work very well on both halves (much better than my run), it depends on your other available DPS. Like if you have Jingliu, then I would use JY on 2nd. Imo DHIL is pain on the first half (E2 is an exception for everything), so stick to the second one. I think we can definitely be one cycle faster on both sides, it's just a bit RNG depended.
Thanks for watching. :D
Jank relic/team video uploads are always the best- goes to show it's still doable on rainbow for anybody even if it isn't optimal. Thanks again for your uploads!
@@aFireBlaze There was another JY clear on TH-cam with rainbow relics on everyone and I was like "omg thats me fr" lmao. While I'm glad being relatable, let's say I still rather want a finished set lmaooooo
@@straypeanut I feel you. I'm slowly working on musketeer for my DHIL, he'll get there eventually once the ATK and crit body rolls right!
Seeing this after 36 star 🌟
hey I wanted to ask what is better for Jingyuan spd or atk boots I have him on speed boots with enough speed substates with Ruan Mei to get him to 141 speed (faster than lighting lord) and my Tingyun is using Planetary Rendezvous S5 but I've seen a lot of JingYuan mains using ATK boot with tingyun on dance dance dance! so I wanted to ask which one is better. (my dance dance dance is S3)
I have very similiar ATK% and SPD% boots since beginning of the game, and imo ATK% boots always performed better for me.
My DDD is S2, so it definitely works. And up until this video I was also using Planetary S5, and it worked fine for me ( I did not try Planetary this MoC ). IMO you can safely level your DDD since Pure Fiction may want you to run 3 Supports anyway, then you can slap your DDD on someone else and have TY on Planetary again. So IMO if you run this team, get ATK% boots, ignore SPD, and level DDD as it's a very safe choice, even in the future.
@@straypeanut Thank you sm for the help! the only thing I am missing is his lc hopefully getting it soon on his rerun may all jingyuan wanters be havers
Hey, I've been a bit troubled picking either DHIL or JY to pull for on 2.0. Since you have both, could you say in your experience who would be better to pull for? My possible supports are tingyun, asta, and yukong (and other supports from upcoming banners like hanya)
This is a difficult question without knowing a lot about your account, but I will try my best!
So, on a very base level DHIL is better/easier. He has self-buffs that can help with low relic stats if you just started out (which I'm guessing because of your supports). You can pair him with Tingyun and Yukong and can brute-force a lot of things, but he will shine more in Imaginary-Weakness-Enemies because of his traits. However you should already have Dr Ratio, who will help you cover Imaginary enemies and cover more weakness advantage is kind of better imo. Also if Yukong isn't E6 then it's kind of a pain to play her.
Jing Yuan has low self buffs, but high multiplier which means he scales better on higher investment. You want to play him with Tingyun and Asta/Hanya. On my account JY feels better, because I invested in him more than DHIL. I use JY to bruteforce a lot of things. May want his Signature Weapon.
So, without knowing a lot, both are more than viable to clear the highest difficulty content, so feel free to "go for the one you like more". Else, probably Dan Heng IL for now.
12:31 what the heck is this relic set here?
Me trying my best 🫠
Basicially I have no set effect because the substats I have on there will lead to worse performance than just going rainbow. Working on it since half a year tho. 🫡 One day, surely.
Ngl, u missed TY buffs for like 2 times? But overall, good run
Same thing happened to RM buffs (not sure if it was in this run) idk what happened, i wasnt even tired when i record it, but i always noticed too late. oops. 🥲
Wich character can i use as substitute for Ruan Mei in JY comp? Silver Wolf? Hanya?
I would stick to Hanya, I used her before RM. She can give infinite uptime on her buffs on JY and the necessary SPD for LL.
I can see SW working in this particular MoC as well since DEF shred stacks so good in this game, but don't quote me on that, I don't have her myself to test it.
@@straypeanut Thank you for taking your time to answer me. Since i have E4 Hanya, i think i will use her in general, but i will test SW too. I hope i can get Jing Yuan tho, he's my favorite since the beta.
@@xArufen If it's for any future plans and if your pulls allows it (and if you like her), might as try your luck on Sparkle, her kit is perfect for Jing Yuan. So your team will be JY, Tingyun, Sparkle, Sustain. Else E4 Hanya is even better than mine on E0, so this will be no problem. :)
@@straypeanut I'm currently at the 50/50 with 50 pity for Jing Yuan and guaranteed on LC banner, i plan to use Penacony's resources to try him. I did not think of Sparkle as someone good to JY's team, i will try to get her too, thanks for the advice.
@@xArufen Here's a copypaste of another comment I did:
JY works so well, because his own buffs isn't oversaturated with anything. He doesn't rely on only one type of buff (CritDMG, DMG%, ATK%) and his damage is well spread between Skill, Ultimate and Follow-Up. Sparkle can exactly give him this: CritDMG, DMG%, ATK% AND can cover Lightning Lord hits as well, something we couldn't abuse with Bronya. Being able to action-forward means that JY can take more turns for more LL stacks. Being SP positive means that Tingyun can use her skill for more Energy leading to more Energy for Jing Yuan as well = more Lightning Lord stacks.
Man the part where LL hit everything but lightning lord for sure stinks. I'm pretty positive with some planning like basic attacking at 1% HP(to not speed up Ll) you probably could've made LL act slow enough so that the fruit would make the deer use his nuke, wiping out the plants and allowing for LL to follow up immediately afterwards. It is two turns of Jing Yuan's turns wasted however and the turbulence also being random in applying SPD debuffs not helping, so idk how the outcome would've truly been- I'm probably cooking a bit too much lol.
I think for the final cycle it would've worked- Yukong did so much damage she's just absolutely cracked of a harmony.
Congratulations for another clear with the two kings! Always nice to see your way of handling it(no e6 Yukong + Luocha and running completely different teammates- I've settled with Ruan Mei, Hanya and FX after some further damage testing). Can't wait for the sparkle banner now! 🙏
Sick Kuze music also for the second side.
You're correct in everything but like you said - MAYBE there are other things which would have screw me up later and things won't align up again. Worst case is just keep retrying until somehow everything aligns, but for now I take that run. :D My original plan was to sacrifice some Crit Rate for Crit Damage and gamble on the crits to kill the roots, but days are busy right now, so I didn't retry it. (Though this is already the best Crit Ratio I can manage so far. I will live in FuA Domain for the rest of my life.)
My Yukong is on SubDPS build, because I saw her offensive traces and was like "naah, i'm not gonna waste that". But yea, I was so worried that I won't be able to kill Kafka (and I really don't want to risk another manipulation skill), I just spam everything on Kafka until the end when I went "HUH. MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE---".
Penacony Patch is so stacked, I wish everyone the best trying for anyone.
& Kuze theme is always a banger. :D
@@straypeanut LOL it's always afterwards when you look back at your recording and think "dang that actually could've worked." Happens to me many times on a potential cycle or two saved. Dosent help sometimes your brain goes "unga bunga" so you do something and later run into a potential mistake that snowballs into something unfavorable.
@@aFireBlaze I still lowkey wish we have an Take-back-the-Ult option. So many times I was like "damn why did i click that." But yes, ever since I start recording I feel like I learned a LOT about this game.
@@straypeanut footage to look back up on seriously helps! Especially as the meta continues to evolve on specific enemy patterns, it'd good to note of how they will move as they always have a set rotation. And yeah taking back ultimate usage would be a massive game changer- controller users meanwhile already can pause in between so what's stopping us from not having something also? (Thats my cope for having Lynx ult button ready to mash to counter a potential attack only to be resisted because my brain goes too fast, skill issue)