You are by far the most informative scrapper I have seen. I don't care for the loud music, but well worth it for the information you provide. Thank you !!!
Your vid's are very informative and now i see other sides of scrapyard buisnes, thank you, you opened my eyes. Man i love to tear down those electric appliances into basic components, i feel so much satisfaction when i am doing it...
PitsuMiwus, thank you so much! I know what you mean about feeling the satisfaction. Only true scrappers can understand it. Most other scrap companies I deal with think I'm crazy because I actually LOVE the physical part of the scrapping process.
hey there captain, tx for showing the in depth video. I especially enjoyed the end with the weigh up and price per pd, please do that when possible in your videos. As we are just starting our own recycling business in a small town and very green at this All the extra information is very useful for both us as a business but for our customers as well. so ya tx again. A and L recycling!
Anna, thank you so much. Just so you know I help out a lot of folks that are starting up recycling businesses with advice or just answering questions. You can always go to my channels page and click the about tab and send me a personal message if you don't want the world to see. I've grown up in this industry, and I know a lot of the ins and outs. The only downside is that it is free advice so don't expect an immediate response, but I will respond!
Same here I love the impact for everything. I still use an old Ni-Cad Dewalt. I love those cable cutters!! I've been wondering if I should buy a pair of bolt cutters, but now I'm sold on those cutters.
uberism81, They are awesome, I'm sure you already know, but I just always warn people to not cut steel with them. Even if it is ACSR wire. That's the only thing that will mess them up very quickly. In reference to one of your other comments about buying a machine: If you are considering buying any type of machine, I would start with a hydraulic alligator shear. I have a gensco, and it is in one of my videos. That thing is one of my favorite pieces of equipment. You can even cut small I-beam and other steel in it to make it #1 HMS. Maybe I will do a review on it so you can see. I paid $14,500 for it, but they have smaller versions you can buy. If you have a small business set up, you can include it with section 179 for your taxes. This will allow you to depreciate 100% of the machine in the first year. Check out this site for more info. www.section179.org/
FYI! Checking those schrader valves will not tell you if there's pressure on the system once it's been cut loose. There's two king valves behind that under those large brace caps that hold the refrigerant in the coil when you pump it down. You will have to crack open one of those to see if there's any pressure in the system. If you just cut into one with pressure on it you will most likely regret it!
Doug, I'm glad you're learning from my videos! That is the real reason I started making them, to begin with! I hope you fall in love with scrap metal like so many of us!!!
"I been doing un-safe things since I came out my mom." Lol. You ain't the only one.. my mom tells me all the time I ain't very smart and ain't very safe.
At my yard we use a cut off saw to take ac units apart. Then you can cut the rad ends off, the fan blades and most of the bolts on the bottom holding the compressor hammer through
Too many ppl are sheep plus they see it as work to break down stuff. But I can say from my own doings I can buy other scrapers stuff break it down and make good money. I have done it say by a yard with a sign buying junk funny how so many rush over. I could buy example a ac unit $5 to $10 they feel so excited but I could break down make 40 to 60 from it get 20 or 30 easy. Same with old lawn mowers buy them up bust down motors get all the aluminum from each it's crazy how most load up so many good items sell it as iron forget all the copper and aluminum in it all. They give it to them for nothing at all to them. Scrap yards love them stupid ppl and hate them at same time love how much free good metals they give for free. Hate the large amount of work done do to bust it down to make the money.
ive got an old a/c condenser i want to scrap. i watc hed several videos but yours was by far the best. how much roughly in texas should the evacuation cost me. is there any way around it. the freon is already gone
EPA certificate, recovery machine, guage set, extra hose, recovery tank needed. Just hire an HVAC guy. If I’m turning in a bunch of a/c units, not HVAC licensed, then scrap dealers may assume I’m stealing them. Probably why they want to see HVAC license. Plus they know those guys also have epa certificate.
Thank you, Mark! If you don't do very many of them, then it's probably not worth it, depending on how much they charge. You can learn how to recover it online and even get a type one certification which is good for appliances with 5lbs or less of refrigerant. But it all depends on how many units you recycle to determine if it is worth it or not. Keep in mind when you recover it correctly you can sell back the freon. If I were out on the streets scrapping every day, I would try to work out a deal with an AC company that I already work with so they could extract any units I had that still have freon inside.
Although you can get the type one certification, many central air conditioning units hold more than 5 pounds of refrigerant. Not to mention, you would need to purchase a reclaim pump, manifold gauges, a reclaim cylinder, never mix different refrigerants into the cylinder, and understand that the refrigerant will burn your skin. As far a selling back the freon, only a few companies will by back R22 refrigerant. Most all charge you to bring in the refrigerant since they have the added expenses of transportation, purity testing, cleaning, filtering and purification of refrigerant before it can be resold and reused.
I’m surprised that these units are just sitting around because the two companies located near me take all of the old parts and toss them in their recycling trailers. Just had a new unit installed at my house and they took it all away and out of my way! Nice clean yard. I scrap but I don’t deal with old A/C units.
I’ve never broken down anything. I just bring stuff in bulk. How should you bring it to a scrap yard? Do you bring it it containers separated, or just bring it in separate piles and put it on the scale?
Separate and upgrade your materials and bring them to the scrap yard in different containers. Never sell unprepared scrap if you can help it, you’d be surprised to see how much more tou can make by spending a few minutes separating your metal
Mason, I get this question a lot so I hope you don't mind but I just copied and pasted my answer! Thanks for watching! This is a great question and a question I get a lot. Copper ingots that customers melt themselves can be tricky sometimes. The reason is that the yard you sell it to has no idea what the chemistries are in the ingot you melted. We have no idea what might have been added to it or how pure and clean the melt was. The only way is to shoot it with a niton gun. Many yards don't have one of these so they wouldn't be able to do it anyways. To give you an idea, when we buy scrap copper pipes, we know the copper used to make those pipes had to meet certain guidelines with certain chemistries, so it is very easy to put it in a box or bale it and sell it back to the mill. So if we were going to sell a bunch of ingots that a customer melted themselves, we would have to convince our buyer that they were good to go. To be honest with you, we usually never push the price when someone has their own ingots because we know it will end up being a big hassle for us. But to answer your actual question, yes you can sell them. You just have to find a yard that will take them. You never know, you might take it to the first yard, and they might not care at all and just buy it. I just couldn't do it without checking it out first because I have very good long lasting relationships with my buyers and I wouldn't want to misrepresent my material. Hope this helped and feel free to reply back if I didn't give a good enough answer or if you need more clarification on anything!
Kathryn, there are a few reasons why they might have this requirement. The first is because they might just not know that it is ok to leave the oil in them. They may have never even asked their buyer if it is ok, so they just don't know. If I had to guess I would say 95% of compressors (sealed units) are exported. The majority of them are exported to India. We ship anywhere from 43,000lbs to 250,000lbs a month. Buyers can have different requirements when shipping them but having the oil drained out is not one of them. We use recycled cardboard and oil absorbent to ensure that none of it escapes the shipping container. We do this obviously for environmental reasons, but we also do it, so we don't make a mess in the container. If we do, we will get charged a cleaning fee. The other reason might be because they just don't want to deal with the mess in their own yard. They might not have an environmentally efficient way of handling the material, so they want to make sure no oil will come out while they move them throughout their yard. If they have a constant problem with oil coming out then they are losing money, because if they paid you with the oil in them, then they lose the oil weight, they are going to lose money. This is undertandable depending on their situation, but it could be an easy fix. If it takes them a while to make a whole load (43,000lbs), they might have to store them for a while so they might not want to worry about the oil coming out and going on the ground while they collect enough weight to sell them. The only other thing I can think of is that they are just a middleman because it takes them to long to collect a whole load, so they have to sell a mixed load (multiple materials) to someone else who will consolidate material from multiple yards then sell straight loads (one item loads). That person might not want the mess since there are multiple items in the truck being shipped to them. Sorry if that is really long I just like to be as detailed as possible! Feel free to ask any questions after reading!
great video, do you have to break it all down for that Price.. tedious work i see would definetly be picking em up if i could just drop em off for atleast $40 with no breaking down
i was thinking the same thing just call me dragon .there should be no ranking for tuffness for i once wrestled a giraffe to the ground or scraped a quarry with my bare hands
WHY to remove Freon, and how Bracken was misinformed on how to check to ensure the freon refrigerant has been removed: just before the shrader valves (tire valve stem things you depressed) are the brass King Valves that will hold or release the freon from the condenser coil, and just after the shrader valves you depressed is an open line. If both of the king valves are closed, depressing the shrader valve (tire valve stem thingy) only opens the line from the closed King Valve to the open end of the copper pipes. {Caveat: Carrier units, it is often reversed (the king valves need to be closed to check)}. To check if there is refrigerant, you need an HVAC service wrench to open the King valve a bit to determine if there is refrigerant in the system. It is illegal to intentionally vent refrigerant, so you really need to have the cut lines brazed closed and use HVAC service manifold gauges to check for the presence of a pressurized system. There is a $37,500 fine per offense for illegal venting of refrigerant AND a $10,000 reward for those reporting illegal venting. This would definitely reduce your scrapping profit margin. Just want everyone to understand why Bracken Recycling stated the requirement for proper documentation of refrigerant/freon recovery prior to scrapping. Lastly - HVAC companies charge a fee to do this because they are charged to properly dispose of the refrigerant. It's not just them charging for their time.
Nobody cares about that junk. I would dispose of it myself. If it wasnt a money grab for them then the companies and the disposal places would have a understanding that recycling/proper disposal cant be encouraged through fines.
A quick trick the scrapyard guy told me, and it worked was, before you remove the walls of the unit, turn it over and use a heavy hammer to hit the underside of the 4 bolts holding the compressor, they pop through easily and it falls down because it’s so heavy and you don’t have to unscrew them.
i was wandering if you have ever come across a ac unit be it window or central that looked like this th-cam.com/video/acGZHCRsUCY/w-d-xo.html mine was a window ac but it had a copper tube and the ali on the outside like this what is this kind of aluminum radiator called and are they hard to come by? the ones i normally get as far as window ac's are the square radiator with copper tubes that was the first wound ali fins and copper tube i had gotten. i think its much easier to seperate the copper from that kind of ali fin easier to break down. do you know what years they made this type of radiator? there are no videos except this one and no videos of anyone striping one like that with a copper tube.
ya they do go up and down but you can google prices for yards and there are apps that gtell you prices past and present ...no yard buys for half of what all other yards do ..you not get buisness that way........
You are by far the most informative scrapper I have seen. I don't care for the loud music, but well worth it for the information you provide. Thank you !!!
Your vid's are very informative and now i see other sides of scrapyard buisnes, thank you, you opened my eyes.
Man i love to tear down those electric appliances into basic components, i feel so much satisfaction when i am doing it...
PitsuMiwus, thank you so much! I know what you mean about feeling the satisfaction. Only true scrappers can understand it. Most other scrap companies I deal with think I'm crazy because I actually LOVE the physical part of the scrapping process.
We are all here cause we ain't all there :) Nice video........
hey there captain, tx for showing the in depth video. I especially enjoyed the end with the weigh up and price per pd, please do that when possible in your videos. As we are just starting our own recycling business in a small town and very green at this All the extra information is very useful for both us as a business but for our customers as well. so ya tx again. A and L recycling!
Anna, thank you so much. Just so you know I help out a lot of folks that are starting up recycling businesses with advice or just answering questions. You can always go to my channels page and click the about tab and send me a personal message if you don't want the world to see. I've grown up in this industry, and I know a lot of the ins and outs. The only downside is that it is free advice so don't expect an immediate response, but I will respond!
Well looks like I will be breaking down from now on...very inormative...thank you
How long did it take to make an extra $52.18? Less than an hour?
Same here I love the impact for everything. I still use an old Ni-Cad Dewalt. I love those cable cutters!! I've been wondering if I should buy a pair of bolt cutters, but now I'm sold on those cutters.
uberism81, They are awesome, I'm sure you already know, but I just always warn people to not cut steel with them. Even if it is ACSR wire. That's the only thing that will mess them up very quickly. In reference to one of your other comments about buying a machine: If you are considering buying any type of machine, I would start with a hydraulic alligator shear. I have a gensco, and it is in one of my videos. That thing is one of my favorite pieces of equipment. You can even cut small I-beam and other steel in it to make it #1 HMS. Maybe I will do a review on it so you can see. I paid $14,500 for it, but they have smaller versions you can buy. If you have a small business set up, you can include it with section 179 for your taxes. This will allow you to depreciate 100% of the machine in the first year. Check out this site for more info.
www.section179.org/
FYI! Checking those schrader valves will not tell you if there's pressure on the system once it's been cut loose. There's two king valves behind that under those large brace caps that hold the refrigerant in the coil when you pump it down. You will have to crack open one of those to see if there's any pressure in the system. If you just cut into one with pressure on it you will most likely regret it!
Great videos, very informative. The most useful anywhere on TH-cam.Thanks man
thanks. Learning a lot from you vids. New to the whole scrap thing and having fun with it.
Doug, I'm glad you're learning from my videos! That is the real reason I started making them, to begin with! I hope you fall in love with scrap metal like so many of us!!!
Thank you Mr scrapper great video very helpful information
A lot of the electric motors used to turn the fans have tremendous resale value (provided they work) on ebay .
"I been doing un-safe things since I came out my mom." Lol. You ain't the only one.. my mom tells me all the time I ain't very smart and ain't very safe.
Mom Knows best...... Sometimes!
Love your videos. Packed with great info for a newbie. Thanks for sharing 😁.
At my yard we use a cut off saw to take ac units apart. Then you can cut the rad ends off, the fan blades and most of the bolts on the bottom holding the compressor hammer through
You crack me up.
“If you made it this far then.... you watched a lot of stuff”
excellent documentation
Thank you, kitfox. I try my best!
It blows my mind when scrappers
bring in those same AC units and sell them for iron .
Those scrappers would make more off the extra money from scrapping one of these out than the entire load of shred in their truck.
Too many ppl are sheep plus they see it as work to break down stuff. But I can say from my own doings I can buy other scrapers stuff break it down and make good money. I have done it say by a yard with a sign buying junk funny how so many rush over. I could buy example a ac unit $5 to $10 they feel so excited but I could break down make 40 to 60 from it get 20 or 30 easy. Same with old lawn mowers buy them up bust down motors get all the aluminum from each it's crazy how most load up so many good items sell it as iron forget all the copper and aluminum in it all. They give it to them for nothing at all to them. Scrap yards love them stupid ppl and hate them at same time love how much free good metals they give for free. Hate the large amount of work done do to bust it down to make the money.
Where did the Freon go.
Great videos so informative and funny I've watched 5 videos so fare and you no your metal thank you for posting : )
ive got an old a/c condenser i want to scrap. i watc hed several videos but yours was by far the best. how much roughly in texas should the evacuation cost me. is there any way around it. the freon is already gone
Good stuff thank you I have 15 sets indoor and outdoor you helped a lot
Nice saws-all
Thanks! Great video. Question. Why do you have to have an HVAC license to scrap metal? That's what I was told...
To remove the freon or discharge the unit.
EPA certificate, recovery machine, guage set, extra hose, recovery tank needed. Just hire an HVAC guy.
If I’m turning in a bunch of a/c units, not HVAC licensed, then scrap dealers may assume I’m stealing them. Probably why they want to see HVAC license. Plus they know those guys also have epa certificate.
Awesome Awesome video man!!! Any idea who would drain the Freon out? Heard people do but charge to do it so maybe not worth it? Thanks!
Thank you, Mark! If you don't do very many of them, then it's probably not worth it, depending on how much they charge. You can learn how to recover it online and even get a type one certification which is good for appliances with 5lbs or less of refrigerant. But it all depends on how many units you recycle to determine if it is worth it or not. Keep in mind when you recover it correctly you can sell back the freon. If I were out on the streets scrapping every day, I would try to work out a deal with an AC company that I already work with so they could extract any units I had that still have freon inside.
Although you can get the type one certification, many central air conditioning units hold more than 5 pounds of refrigerant. Not to mention, you would need to purchase a reclaim pump, manifold gauges, a reclaim cylinder, never mix different refrigerants into the cylinder, and understand that the refrigerant will burn your skin. As far a selling back the freon, only a few companies will by back R22 refrigerant. Most all charge you to bring in the refrigerant since they have the added expenses of transportation, purity testing, cleaning, filtering and purification of refrigerant before it can be resold and reused.
great video.
I’m surprised that these units are just sitting around because the two companies located near me take all of the old parts and toss them in their recycling trailers. Just had a new unit installed at my house and they took it all away and out of my way! Nice clean yard. I scrap but I don’t deal with old A/C units.
I’ve never broken down anything. I just bring stuff in bulk. How should you bring it to a scrap yard? Do you bring it it containers separated, or just bring it in separate piles and put it on the scale?
Separate and upgrade your materials and bring them to the scrap yard in different containers. Never sell unprepared scrap if you can help it, you’d be surprised to see how much more tou can make by spending a few minutes separating your metal
Good show!
do scrap yards take hand poured ingots?
Mason, I get this question a lot so I hope you don't mind but I just copied and pasted my answer! Thanks for watching!
This is a great question and a question I get a lot. Copper ingots that customers melt themselves can be tricky sometimes. The reason is that the yard you sell it to has no idea what the chemistries are in the ingot you melted. We have no idea what might have been added to it or how pure and clean the melt was. The only way is to shoot it with a niton gun. Many yards don't have one of these so they wouldn't be able to do it anyways. To give you an idea, when we buy scrap copper pipes, we know the copper used to make those pipes had to meet certain guidelines with certain chemistries, so it is very easy to put it in a box or bale it and sell it back to the mill. So if we were going to sell a bunch of ingots that a customer melted themselves, we would have to convince our buyer that they were good to go. To be honest with you, we usually never push the price when someone has their own ingots because we know it will end up being a big hassle for us. But to answer your actual question, yes you can sell them. You just have to find a yard that will take them. You never know, you might take it to the first yard, and they might not care at all and just buy it. I just couldn't do it without checking it out first because I have very good long lasting relationships with my buyers and I wouldn't want to misrepresent my material. Hope this helped and feel free to reply back if I didn't give a good enough answer or if you need more clarification on anything!
Great Video
here in billings mt you have to drain the oil or they will not take them
Kathryn, there are a few reasons why they might have this requirement. The first is because they might just not know that it is ok to leave the oil in them. They may have never even asked their buyer if it is ok, so they just don't know. If I had to guess I would say 95% of compressors (sealed units) are exported. The majority of them are exported to India. We ship anywhere from 43,000lbs to 250,000lbs a month. Buyers can have different requirements when shipping them but having the oil drained out is not one of them. We use recycled cardboard and oil absorbent to ensure that none of it escapes the shipping container. We do this obviously for environmental reasons, but we also do it, so we don't make a mess in the container. If we do, we will get charged a cleaning fee. The other reason might be because they just don't want to deal with the mess in their own yard. They might not have an environmentally efficient way of handling the material, so they want to make sure no oil will come out while they move them throughout their yard. If they have a constant problem with oil coming out then they are losing money, because if they paid you with the oil in them, then they lose the oil weight, they are going to lose money. This is undertandable depending on their situation, but it could be an easy fix. If it takes them a while to make a whole load (43,000lbs), they might have to store them for a while so they might not want to worry about the oil coming out and going on the ground while they collect enough weight to sell them. The only other thing I can think of is that they are just a middleman because it takes them to long to collect a whole load, so they have to sell a mixed load (multiple materials) to someone else who will consolidate material from multiple yards then sell straight loads (one item loads). That person might not want the mess since there are multiple items in the truck being shipped to them. Sorry if that is really long I just like to be as detailed as possible! Feel free to ask any questions after reading!
thanks good thought
great video, do you have to break it all down for that Price.. tedious work i see would definetly be picking em up if i could just drop em off for atleast $40 with no breaking down
You have to break it down. It only takes about 20 minutes to tear one down.
i was thinking the same thing just call me dragon .there should be no ranking for tuffness for i once wrestled a giraffe to the ground or scraped a quarry with my bare hands
Have you done a video on whether it is practicable breaking down other items like water heaters, push mowers, electric motors, etc.? Wmsbg.krw06
Kevin, not yet but that is a great idea. I will try to make some time to make one!
The old style HID ballast transformers are well worth it. 2.5 lbs of copper in about 2 or 3 mins of work.
Just subbed doing business in South East USA.
Thank you, Zuspan's Recycling. I hope to get some more videos out there soon.
WHY to remove Freon, and how Bracken was misinformed on how to check to ensure the freon refrigerant has been removed: just before the shrader valves (tire valve stem things you depressed) are the brass King Valves that will hold or release the freon from the condenser coil, and just after the shrader valves you depressed is an open line. If both of the king valves are closed, depressing the shrader valve (tire valve stem thingy) only opens the line from the closed King Valve to the open end of the copper pipes. {Caveat: Carrier units, it is often reversed (the king valves need to be closed to check)}. To check if there is refrigerant, you need an HVAC service wrench to open the King valve a bit to determine if there is refrigerant in the system. It is illegal to intentionally vent refrigerant, so you really need to have the cut lines brazed closed and use HVAC service manifold gauges to check for the presence of a pressurized system. There is a $37,500 fine per offense for illegal venting of refrigerant AND a $10,000 reward for those reporting illegal venting. This would definitely reduce your scrapping profit margin. Just want everyone to understand why Bracken Recycling stated the requirement for proper documentation of refrigerant/freon recovery prior to scrapping. Lastly - HVAC companies charge a fee to do this because they are charged to properly dispose of the refrigerant. It's not just them charging for their time.
Forgot to say how great the Bracken Recycling videos are - Excellent job!
Nobody cares about that junk. I would dispose of it myself. If it wasnt a money grab for them then the companies and the disposal places would have a understanding that recycling/proper disposal cant be encouraged through fines.
Thanks for posting I watched alot of stuff lol
A quick trick the scrapyard guy told me, and it worked was, before you remove the walls of the unit, turn it over and use a heavy hammer to hit the underside of the 4 bolts holding the compressor, they pop through easily and it falls down because it’s so heavy and you don’t have to unscrew them.
Just subbed
Thank you, windowpane!
You sound like john c Riley so bad.
"the magic man"!
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Bracken Recycling hahahaha that and step brothers are funny as fuck
@@AB-gz9yb or does he sounds like John c. Riley so good?
"I'm using battery operated saws all, 'cause I'm pretendin' I'm outside...."That's something john would say!
You sound like John C. Reilly.
Thank u
You look like Action Bronson.
Do you sell me. ?
Yes I sell you
i was wandering if you have ever come across a ac unit be it window or central that looked like this th-cam.com/video/acGZHCRsUCY/w-d-xo.html
mine was a window ac but it had a copper tube and the ali on the outside like this what is this kind of aluminum radiator called and are they hard to come by? the ones i normally get as far as window ac's are the square radiator with copper tubes that was the first wound ali fins and copper tube i had gotten. i think its much easier to seperate the copper from that kind of ali fin easier to break down. do you know what years they made this type of radiator? there are no videos except this one and no videos of anyone striping one like that with a copper tube.
In my city you take them in complete they pay 15 cents a pound,so a little work doubles the money.
Hey man can you sale the copper to me I live in Kentucky. I will pay you top dollar for that
haha youll never be able to tell if it has freon thru the service ports schrader valve. 😂😂😂
Yeah if the valves are closed and he goes to cut a line, he’ll get a nasty surprise lmaoo
ya they do go up and down but you can google prices for yards and there are apps that gtell you prices past and present ...no yard buys for half of what all other yards do ..you not get buisness that way........
remind me not to go to your yard 4 cent pound for steel everywhelse is 7 and up some one getting rich