Yea It was a great show, but olin kreutz is a great cancellation prize. And pat isn't bad either. Kreutz is honest and straightforward without prejudice.
Years ago I saw Troy Aikman at a Football Camp... I remember how much larger he was than I expected... It was a camp for highschool kids and he spent the majority of his time throwing passes and interacting with the young players on the field. He genuinely loves the game. I'm happy he was able to have an extended career involving broadcasting...
Great feedback from Troy on the ideal coaching situation. It makes sense to have that offensive minded coach who calls plays so the OC doesn't get poached every two years. Troy's take on the coaching staff being loyal to Jimmy Johnson was eye opening. It's ESSENTIAL the HC chooses his own staff (not piece mailed by upper management) so the probability of loyalty is much higher, which is needed to build solid locker rooms and culture. The question is, will the McASSkeys/Warren get out of the way and let Poles hire the next coach?! I doubt it. When George is involved, you can expect a train wreck
Caleb has 16 tuddy 5 int if this was another rookie on another team every one would be signing his praisings and talking about how accurate he is and not a turnover machine. Some how since he’s a bear it’s insignificant and not good enough
@@andyc312he’s taking too many sacks. If bagent started the season we all know that he wouldn’t been sacked a whole lot and the Bears would have a winning record. Caleb should’ve sat this year like mahomes.
Look at his completion percentage… and his in game throws. Last week 138 yards? He’s the number 1 pick in a draft that we passed on cleaning up to take him! Yes bears fan are being ultra critical. We have 4 wins period. He has gotten the coaches fired and gm on the hot seat and it is ultimately his play not coaching! So yea
@officialknightowlz BINGO!!! Like rooting for the guy but you dogged Justin who had to play with BS for this? As a Bears fanni want Caleb to become the goat but gah damn man. You get all these weapons and 4 new guys for the OL and we're WORSE? But the coaches and GM are to blame? Dumb!!!!! He's failed his rookie year, everyone said we're going to the playoffs now it's "he's a rookie" JD and Nix are playing with far less talent!!!! It's simply inexcusable and I'm holding Caleb accountable unlike these delusional nut riders bro. This is making me sick, everybody's ignoring these terrible first half performances that are pitting us in deep holes then in 1 possession blaming the whole game on coaching like he's not taking too many sacks holding the ball a whole ass 4 seconds which is crazy af
And also many of the great quarterbacks are not too proud to take many short completions after short completions until suddenly boom then the deep one pops, you gotta build up a rhythm that keeps their defense guessing. Sometimes they are going to get gas right and you have to take the check down or better yet just a short pass over the middle well try not to put your receiver in too much harms way. I believe that many short passes slowly pushing it down the field also opens up the run game as well as the deep pass
When you play not to lose and have zero INTs especially as a developing player you're never gonna grow as a passer and find your game. I mean thats old school numbers and players thinking but in Caleb's case Im hoping its true. There's just no denying his talent as evidenced in mutiple NFL games I dont care who he was playing.
He’s right about the sacks and holding the ball too long. He has 56 sacks already. According to PFR, Caleb has faced pressure on 23.2% (22nd out of 34 QBs) of his dropbacks. The league average is 21.7%. Why is he near league average, but leading the league in sacks? While he ranks 9th in passing attempts, there is another stat that he is 2nd worst in the league at. He has the second worst pressure to sack rate at 46% with only Will Levis being worse. The league average and median are around 30%. The top 6 players in the league are between 11% and 21%.
Sometimes Williams holds it too long and some of the sacks are mostly his fault, for sure. Also, though, how is "pressure" defined? Because Williams often has guys running at him unblocked or has his own linemen backed into his lap.
I’ve seen Chase Daniel’s breakdown film play calling/ WR route spacing is horrible the Oline is bad yeah is a rookie that has held ball to long at times but that’s not unusual
Is it a lack of timing from the shotgun? I’m gonna have to review some film but what I’ve sort of seen his guys like Caleb fields not wanting to take the first open guy they see and instead wanted to stretch the field more instead of just picking up a 5 yard to 7 yard pass over the middle even if it is into a window. You see most of the great quarterbacks don’t usually pass open a wide-open receiver on a normal Drive so they can find a receiver that’s deeper down the field. I think Troy Aikman is biting his tongue because I’ve seen that a lot with Caleb Fields and Justin Williams where there’s a tight window where they can immediately fit the ball in for a completion if the pass is on point but they neglect to take that opportunity they look For another receiver and then take a sack.
And my thing is clearly since you’re taking so many sacks it’s not easy for these wide receivers to get open and you don’t have a grade percentage of having an array of open receivers to choose from so you should take the very first opportunity that arises in terms of any window opening for a completion the first one that arises unless you must push it down field because of Clock because the time is running out.
Troy Aikman knows exactly what he’s talking about. Caleb doesn’t view a sack like it’s an interception or a turnover so he’s fine with taking the sack because it doesn’t impact the numbers he deem as important. Caleb can learn a lot from Bagent because this offensive line is not bad. Bagent would’ve taken way less sacks behind this same line and the Bears would definitely be in the playoff hunt. Bears made a big mistake just awarding the starting job.
Bagent would just be throwing picks lol. We are talking about a guy with a 3 to 6 TD to INT ratio in 4 starts last year. Hes not good and you are completely delusional if you think this team would have a better record with him starting.
@ bagent out played Caleb in camp and the receivers actually were calling for him to start. The 5 games bagent played in last season he only was sacked 5 times. With the coordinator that was fired from the raiders who might I add was pounding the table to bench JF because bagent was a better quarterback. Caleb should’ve sat this year. You’re looking at stats but if you were watching the games Caleb doesn’t do anything in the 1st half’s. The 2nd half he’s getting these numbers because of soft coverages being played because the teams have comfortable leads. This guy has set the record for sacks and still has 4 more games to go 😂 who’s really delusional?
@@raprevenue1922DJ Moore has become a low effort diva WR since he got his $$ can see on the tape how he is running routes idk what his problem is w Caleb but they need to look into trading him if this can’t get fixed
Once again the government stealing my thoughts out of my memory bank and giving them the Troy Aikman I thought this just last night that this kid spent all these years in college he won the Heisman Trophy and he doesn’t know the first thing about managing gametime late situation’s in the fourth quarter? I mean it’s almost like he threw these games he took multiple sacks in the fourth quarter And threw the ball behind and at the feet of DJ Moore’s legs on the easiest pass of the game that would’ve been a winning touchdown against the lions How does this guy possibly have space is so clueless when it comes to the end games did Uber flustered flustered Ness simply rub off on him that quickly?
Wow, I can't understand a word he said. His English is terrible. The only words I understood were Tennessee, Championship and Chicago. Good luck to the young man.
Troy Aikman: "I think the offensive line is 'serviceable'". I think "Damn, with faint praise." Jesus. The OL is a disaster. C'mon Troy. Do you imagine you are speaking to idiots??
@@erick7mz I saw Troy's entire career going back to UCLA, so actually, I can compare the two. Troy threw a ton of interceptions and can't make half the throws that Caleb makes. Give Caleb an offensive line (Troy had one of the best ever - look it up).
Wanstadt is an expert now..... where's his bears Superbowl ring. OH, i forgot.....he didn't win one with the bears. Hey wanny, get on line with tressman,nagy, fox and fluse....all losers.
Caleb was supposed to be "Generational". He was supposedly so good, he deserved a part of team ownership. He was supposed to be so good, we were guaranteed playoffs some even said Super Bowl. He's NOT. CJ Stroud is what that looks like. Winning first year no damn excuses about "development". CJ Stroud. Jaylen too. That's a good QB. Caleb is just one excuse after another. Trade him while there are still those fingernail/purse lovers out there who still think he's "generational". Generational!
You're crazy. You don't know how a football team works I could tell you never played. Foundation is so critical. What he's done during this adversity is nothing short of remarkable. when we have a competent front office that has a plan that starts with solidifying a Foundation that allows the building of a championship team then you'll see his talent at optimal level. This team and organization need to catch up to him. He's that SPECIAL.
You see CJ Stroud lately?? Everyone was on his schlong last year. Came back down to earth this year. This is why you give QBs 3 years to really know how they will turn out
Lets just give Caleb 2024 and 2025 season to get better. Caleb has not improved this year that's a fact. Caleb is playing like he did at USC. Not winning for 2 or 3 years waiting for a quaterback to get better is not a worth it. We have a back up quarterback Right now that is better then Caleb right now and win. Put in Tyson Bagent.
@@gl3five Caleb has regressed and can not handle game situations. Just look at last game 1st half you call that better. 4 Yards first half better!!! Detroit game look at film Calebs changing play instead of spiking ball or timeout. Tyson Bagent has look great won 2 games and close on other games. 2-4. Fact is Tyson Bagent is reay Caleb is not. That's not only my opion that's the players and other teams. That's why there asking Bears if they would trade. I go by how players play and Calebs last year of collage was terrible and this year Caleb is terrible that's a fact. Not a pipe dream your reffering. Watch Monday night
@@tomdigangi8384 well by ur logic players regress on a week to week basis. Progression isn’t linear, he’s done a lot of things better than he did earlier in the season while also having a lot to improve. But to sit here and say that bagent would be better is crazy, bagent did nothing in those games last year, had more picks than touchdowns just so happened to win because of the defense and playing terrible teams
@@gl3fiveSorry don't take this wrong way but Tyson Bagent is a winner in Collage and in the NFL. That's a fact. Bagent 2 out of 4 games with a Offensive line and center were worse then we have now. Caleb cannot say the that. Just because he holds on ball and runs and does not get picks is absoultly crazy. Caleb stats are terrible and so is his play. Lets talk after Minnesota game. Caleb has been going wrong way since he won the Heisman. Just look at his stats you want to talk about picks look at Noter Dame game.
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I miss wanstedt, briggs, brown, and Ruthie post game show
What happened to it?
Me too.
@@kbotah2023channel was shut down and they all went separate ways.
Yea It was a great show, but olin kreutz is a great cancellation prize. And pat isn't bad either. Kreutz is honest and straightforward without prejudice.
Me 2
Anytime Aikman is part of a discussion and Wanny, I want to listen. Great conversation everyone!
Years ago I saw Troy Aikman at a Football Camp... I remember how much larger he was than I expected... It was a camp for highschool kids and he spent the majority of his time throwing passes and interacting with the young players on the field. He genuinely loves the game. I'm happy he was able to have an extended career involving broadcasting...
Thanks Troy, some good stuff there, appreciate it guys . BearDown
Great feedback from Troy on the ideal coaching situation. It makes sense to have that offensive minded coach who calls plays so the OC doesn't get poached every two years. Troy's take on the coaching staff being loyal to Jimmy Johnson was eye opening. It's ESSENTIAL the HC chooses his own staff (not piece mailed by upper management) so the probability of loyalty is much higher, which is needed to build solid locker rooms and culture. The question is, will the McASSkeys/Warren get out of the way and let Poles hire the next coach?! I doubt it. When George is involved, you can expect a train wreck
We really need to invest in the trenches.
Troy Aikman's hands are HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Legendary Troy Aikman, One of the Best of the Best Indeed 🐻⬇️🙏🏾
Caleb has 16 tuddy 5 int if this was another rookie on another team every one would be signing his praisings and talking about how accurate he is and not a turnover machine. Some how since he’s a bear it’s insignificant and not good enough
It's about winning, not garbage time tds and being scared to throw. I'd rather him have 10ints with 8 wins rn.
18tds and 5 picks next week will shut up the peanut gallery. He will get 500 yards on the ground in his rookie year!
@@andyc312he’s taking too many sacks. If bagent started the season we all know that he wouldn’t been sacked a whole lot and the Bears would have a winning record. Caleb should’ve sat this year like mahomes.
Look at his completion percentage… and his in game throws. Last week 138 yards? He’s the number 1 pick in a draft that we passed on cleaning up to take him! Yes bears fan are being ultra critical. We have 4 wins period. He has gotten the coaches fired and gm on the hot seat and it is ultimately his play not coaching! So yea
@officialknightowlz BINGO!!! Like rooting for the guy but you dogged Justin who had to play with BS for this? As a Bears fanni want Caleb to become the goat but gah damn man. You get all these weapons and 4 new guys for the OL and we're WORSE? But the coaches and GM are to blame? Dumb!!!!! He's failed his rookie year, everyone said we're going to the playoffs now it's "he's a rookie" JD and Nix are playing with far less talent!!!! It's simply inexcusable and I'm holding Caleb accountable unlike these delusional nut riders bro. This is making me sick, everybody's ignoring these terrible first half performances that are pitting us in deep holes then in 1 possession blaming the whole game on coaching like he's not taking too many sacks holding the ball a whole ass 4 seconds which is crazy af
SAVE THE CITY OF CHICAGO TROY
Wanny drinking a corona at 9:25?😂
And also many of the great quarterbacks are not too proud to take many short completions after short completions until suddenly boom then the deep one pops, you gotta build up a rhythm that keeps their defense guessing. Sometimes they are going to get gas right and you have to take the check down or better yet just a short pass over the middle well try not to put your receiver in too much harms way.
I believe that many short passes slowly pushing it down the field also opens up the run game as well as the deep pass
Say no more, bring Ben Johnson asap!
An offensive version of Flus
When you play not to lose and have zero INTs especially as a developing player you're never gonna grow as a passer and find your game. I mean thats old school numbers and players thinking but in Caleb's case Im hoping its true. There's just no denying his talent as evidenced in mutiple NFL games I dont care who he was playing.
He’s right about the sacks and holding the ball too long.
He has 56 sacks already. According to PFR, Caleb has faced pressure on 23.2% (22nd out of 34 QBs) of his dropbacks. The league average is 21.7%. Why is he near league average, but leading the league in sacks?
While he ranks 9th in passing attempts, there is another stat that he is 2nd worst in the league at. He has the second worst pressure to sack rate at 46% with only Will Levis being worse. The league average and median are around 30%. The top 6 players in the league are between 11% and 21%.
Sometimes Williams holds it too long and some of the sacks are mostly his fault, for sure.
Also, though, how is "pressure" defined? Because Williams often has guys running at him unblocked or has his own linemen backed into his lap.
I understand you want another quarterback, and you're saying to yourself I told you so! Preferably a white one.
I’ve seen Chase Daniel’s breakdown film play calling/ WR route spacing is horrible the Oline is bad yeah is a rookie that has held ball to long at times but that’s not unusual
@@calm1047 LMAO 😂
@@davis2k1234 doesn’t seem to be an issue for Daniels, Nix..
Is it a lack of timing from the shotgun? I’m gonna have to review some film but what I’ve sort of seen his guys like Caleb fields not wanting to take the first open guy they see and instead wanted to stretch the field more instead of just picking up a 5 yard to 7 yard pass over the middle even if it is into a window. You see most of the great quarterbacks don’t usually pass open a wide-open receiver on a normal Drive so they can find a receiver that’s deeper down the field.
I think Troy Aikman is biting his tongue because I’ve seen that a lot with Caleb Fields and Justin Williams where there’s a tight window where they can immediately fit the ball in for a completion if the pass is on point but they neglect to take that opportunity they look For another receiver and then take a sack.
And my thing is clearly since you’re taking so many sacks it’s not easy for these wide receivers to get open and you don’t have a grade percentage of having an array of open receivers to choose from so you should take the very first opportunity that arises in terms of any window opening for a completion the first one that arises unless you must push it down field because of Clock because the time is running out.
I think it’s time for Troy to become a head coach and come to Chicago
Just because someone was a good player in the past doesn't mean they would be a good head coach.
Troy Aikman knows exactly what he’s talking about. Caleb doesn’t view a sack like it’s an interception or a turnover so he’s fine with taking the sack because it doesn’t impact the numbers he deem as important. Caleb can learn a lot from Bagent because this offensive line is not bad. Bagent would’ve taken way less sacks behind this same line and the Bears would definitely be in the playoff hunt. Bears made a big mistake just awarding the starting job.
Bagent would just be throwing picks lol. We are talking about a guy with a 3 to 6 TD to INT ratio in 4 starts last year. Hes not good and you are completely delusional if you think this team would have a better record with him starting.
@ bagent out played Caleb in camp and the receivers actually were calling for him to start. The 5 games bagent played in last season he only was sacked 5 times. With the coordinator that was fired from the raiders who might I add was pounding the table to bench JF because bagent was a better quarterback. Caleb should’ve sat this year. You’re looking at stats but if you were watching the games Caleb doesn’t do anything in the 1st half’s. The 2nd half he’s getting these numbers because of soft coverages being played because the teams have comfortable leads. This guy has set the record for sacks and still has 4 more games to go 😂 who’s really delusional?
@@raprevenue1922no one wanted bagent to start and the only person who created that smoke was Tyson’s dad.
@ yeah keep believing that. Lip readers caught dj Moore several times calling for bagent.
@@raprevenue1922DJ Moore has become a low effort diva WR since he got his $$ can see on the tape how he is running routes idk what his problem is w Caleb but they need to look into trading him if this can’t get fixed
Bears - give Aikman a blank check right now or at least listen to this
Once again the government stealing my thoughts out of my memory bank and giving them the Troy Aikman I thought this just last night that this kid spent all these years in college he won the Heisman Trophy and he doesn’t know the first thing about managing gametime late situation’s in the fourth quarter? I mean it’s almost like he threw these games he took multiple sacks in the fourth quarter And threw the ball behind and at the feet of DJ Moore’s legs on the easiest pass of the game that would’ve been a winning touchdown against the lions
How does this guy possibly have space is so clueless when it comes to the end games did Uber flustered flustered Ness simply rub off on him that quickly?
Did Aikman imply Williams takes sacks because he doesn't want to hurt his passer rating??
He had a way better rookie year than Troy Aikman or Peyton Manning .....
Doesn’t matter
Wow, I can't understand a word he said. His English is terrible. The only words I understood were Tennessee, Championship and Chicago. Good luck to the young man.
Troy Aikman: "I think the offensive line is 'serviceable'". I think "Damn, with faint praise." Jesus. The OL is a disaster. C'mon Troy. Do you imagine you are speaking to idiots??
Wannie was a terrible coach but I guess that doesn't matter
He wasn't terrible!
@@calm1047 Yes he was.
I love Troy Aikman, but Caleb's numbers are already better than Troy's were in practically every season of his career.
Very different era
Cannot compare the two
True to both
Annnnd he had Emmett that he needed to hand the ball to bc yk HOF’er and all
Numbers lie my friend, especially in this new era of analytics.
@@erick7mz I saw Troy's entire career going back to UCLA, so actually, I can compare the two. Troy threw a ton of interceptions and can't make half the throws that Caleb makes. Give Caleb an offensive line (Troy had one of the best ever - look it up).
Caleb's stats are better than Bradshaw,Steve Young, Drew Brees and Joe Montana.....doesn't mean much
Wanstadt is an expert now..... where's his bears Superbowl ring. OH, i forgot.....he didn't win one with the bears. Hey wanny, get on line with tressman,nagy, fox and fluse....all losers.
Your logic is flawed. You're saying you had to have won a Super Bowl in order to talk football?
Completely agree.@@jbizz80
Troy threw 9TDs and 18ints his rookie year, he can’t talk! One of the most overrated HOFer ever, give me a dang break! The Audacity!
Caleb was supposed to be "Generational". He was supposedly so good, he deserved a part of team ownership. He was supposed to be so good, we were guaranteed playoffs some even said Super Bowl. He's NOT. CJ Stroud is what that looks like. Winning first year no damn excuses about "development". CJ Stroud. Jaylen too. That's a good QB. Caleb is just one excuse after another. Trade him while there are still those fingernail/purse lovers out there who still think he's "generational". Generational!
You gotta be kidding me lol
@@Duffyartwork This guy is just a troll I see him in these comments all the time with WILD takes.
You're crazy. You don't know how a football team works I could tell you never played.
Foundation is so critical. What he's done during this adversity is nothing short of remarkable. when we have a competent front office that has a plan that starts with solidifying a Foundation that allows the building of a championship team then you'll see his talent at optimal level. This team and organization need to catch up to him. He's that SPECIAL.
Agreed.... he's average
You see CJ Stroud lately?? Everyone was on his schlong last year. Came back down to earth this year. This is why you give QBs 3 years to really know how they will turn out
Lets just give Caleb 2024 and 2025 season to get better. Caleb has not improved this year that's a fact. Caleb
is playing like he did at USC. Not winning for 2 or 3 years waiting for a quaterback to get better is not a worth it.
We have a back up quarterback Right now that is better then Caleb right now and win. Put in Tyson Bagent.
He’s gotten a lot better in a lot of things. Tyson was terrible last year and is still probably terrible. This has to be rage bait
@@gl3five Caleb has regressed and can not handle game situations. Just look at last game 1st half you call that better. 4 Yards first half better!!! Detroit game look at film Calebs changing play instead of spiking ball or timeout. Tyson Bagent has look great won 2 games and close on other games. 2-4. Fact is Tyson Bagent is reay Caleb is not. That's not only my opion that's the players and other teams. That's why there asking Bears if they would trade. I go by how players play and Calebs last year of collage was terrible and this year Caleb is terrible that's a fact. Not a pipe dream your reffering. Watch Monday night
@@tomdigangi8384 well by ur logic players regress on a week to week basis. Progression isn’t linear, he’s done a lot of things better than he did earlier in the season while also having a lot to improve. But to sit here and say that bagent would be better is crazy, bagent did nothing in those games last year, had more picks than touchdowns just so happened to win because of the defense and playing terrible teams
@@gl3fiveSorry don't take this wrong way but Tyson Bagent is a winner in Collage and in the NFL. That's a fact. Bagent 2 out of 4 games with a Offensive line and center were worse then we have now. Caleb cannot say the that. Just because he holds on ball and runs and does not
get picks is absoultly crazy. Caleb stats are terrible and so is his play. Lets talk after Minnesota game. Caleb has been going wrong way since he won the Heisman. Just look at his stats you want to talk about picks look at Noter Dame game.
@@tomdigangi8384 wow so impressive he can win at a d2 level
Hey 670 The bore these guys suck.