What a beautiful conversation, I love to contemplate, after my trip from Italy, covid hit Feb,or Mar. my parish priest asked me if I would do the readings, to be recorded because our church was locked due to covid it was been recorded so people could watch at home, so church never close for me ever since then, I continue reading for daily mass, and go to mass everyday except Monday its our priest day off, and on Sundays I go to LTM 20 minute drive, now been 2 years. God be with you all.
@@MatthewLeonard Luke 10: 22 is about prophets, not mystics. Mystics in the OT were stoned. Mystics claim a special ability to see what God is doing. In other words, they become Christ-like. No one can be like Christ or know what the Trinity is doing or thinking. The Father and Jesus through the Holy Spirit give words to the prophets. Never does a Word of God come from any saint or angel, that includes Mary. The dead have no ability to do that. The Bible says, after death a person: returns to dust (Psalms 104:29), knows nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5), possesses no mental powers (Psalms 146:4), has nothing to do with anything on earth (Ecclesiastes 9:6), does not live (2 Kings 20:1), waits in the grave (Job 17:13), and continues not (Job 14:1, 2) until the Resurrection Day. Mystics are the psychics of your church. Prophets give fresh words from God. They do not repeat something from the 80s.
I really enjoyed listening to this podcast Especially when it was described how like dual became blind for 3 days but then the light from God begun to work in him and the scales fell off his eyes and he could now see the way of the Lord. I have experienced this.
Great Job Matt👍 God bless you for all you do. Just discovered that the little Angel whose reverence before the Eucharist i always marvel at, during mass at Holy Rosary; is your son😂😂😂. That guy doesn’t seem to mind breaking his knees to show reverence for the Lord 😂😂😂😂 God bless you for all you do🙏
Joshua commented that in a moment of aridity we were to stand back a bit and not force prayer but i am reading the 'Ways of mental prayer' and the author advises the opposite, to persevere, because its prayer with an added cross which makes it more meritorious. Granted the author was not talking about the dark night but simply aridity. But is there a difference of action? During the dark night are we to lay back or persevere?
I don't remember the context of Josh's comment, but we are always to persevere in prayer regardless of how we are feeling, particularly in times of aridity. He may have been talking about the transition from regular meditation into affective prayer in which we begin to stop actively meditating and make an act of the will to simply follow the subtle impulses of love we start to feel. So rather "pulling back" in the sense that the manner in which we're praying changes, but not the fact that we're praying. God bless!
To piggyback on Matt's remark that it is horrifying to realize we may waste this infused mystical life, I fell into seasons where I may have 'buried' my talent ...thinking the talent isnt to be traded and given away..hence I figure my private gift was safer unexplored, so I 'buried it'.. This is after years of infused Grace's, making the error more egregious... yet another pitfall to avoid least we warrant the Masters very severe reprimand in the parable of the talents.
Hello, Mr. Leonard. I have a question for you. It may seem like an absurd question; I am often met with resistance when I broach this subject. Regardless, do you believe psychoactive mushrooms have a place in Catholic prayer? Admittedly, I am quite a newbie when it comes to theology (although I am actively trying to discern God's will as it pertains to theology in my life). I am also aware of the catechism concerning intoxication. However, if I understand Fr. Aumann's works correctly, then I believe such mushrooms may be able to initiate the 5th grade of prayer, if one is truly called to it. I believe it's a practice lost by us Catholics in recent years. I've been playing the part of guinea pig in my search. If I'm honest with myself, however, I am not entirely sure if I'm onto something, or if I'm somehow confused. After listening to this discussion, I would greatly appreciate your opinion if it can be spared.
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What a beautiful conversation, I love to contemplate, after my trip from Italy, covid hit Feb,or Mar. my parish priest asked me if I would do the readings, to be recorded because our church was locked due to covid it was been recorded so people could watch at home, so church never close for me ever since then, I continue reading for daily mass, and go to mass everyday except Monday its our priest day off, and on Sundays I go to LTM 20 minute drive, now been 2 years. God be with you all.
Glory be to God.... My Heart longs for my Lord and I wish everyone would Love him.
Great discussion thanks
Me too!
I'm glad I came across this video. Catholic mysticism and mystics should be discussed and explored much more. Thank you all.
According to Christ in Luke 10, it's the "one thing" necessary, Ralph! God bless!
@@MatthewLeonard Luke 10: 22 is about prophets, not mystics. Mystics in the OT were stoned. Mystics claim a special ability to see what God is doing. In other words, they become Christ-like. No one can be like Christ or know what the Trinity is doing or thinking. The Father and Jesus through the Holy Spirit give words to the prophets. Never does a Word of God come from any saint or angel, that includes Mary. The dead have no ability to do that. The Bible says, after death a person: returns to dust (Psalms 104:29), knows nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5), possesses no mental powers (Psalms 146:4), has nothing to do with anything on earth (Ecclesiastes 9:6), does not live (2 Kings 20:1), waits in the grave (Job 17:13), and continues not (Job 14:1, 2) until the Resurrection Day. Mystics are the psychics of your church. Prophets give fresh words from God. They do not repeat something from the 80s.
I really enjoyed listening to this podcast
Especially when it was described how like dual became blind for 3 days but then the light from God begun to work in him and the scales fell off his eyes and he could now see the way of the Lord. I have experienced this.
🙏🙏🙏
Great Job Matt👍 God bless you for all you do. Just discovered that the little Angel whose reverence before the Eucharist i always marvel at, during mass at Holy Rosary; is your son😂😂😂. That guy doesn’t seem to mind breaking his knees to show reverence for the Lord 😂😂😂😂 God bless you for all you do🙏
Thank you, Father! Yes, that's my little Benedict:). May he reverence our Lord in the Eucharist all the days of his life! God bless you!
Yep the science of Sainthood is next for us
Wonderful conversation guys.
Well done!
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
Bravo I am leading a little group on this.. Fullt transformative.. Fully amazing and utterly tremendous
Any tips on how to lead a study group on this ?
Outstanding! Thank you, Matthew!
I live in the Diocese of Venice in Florida and I am in the process of coming home. Would like to connect with the gentlemen you mentioned.
Catholic mysticism is rich in history. Still going on now. Richard Rohr for example
A ver good podcast.
Is trhere any book that decribes these processes of diefication that you can recommend? I'd love tolearn more.
Joshua commented that in a moment of aridity we were to stand back a bit and not force prayer but i am reading the 'Ways of mental prayer' and the author advises the opposite, to persevere, because its prayer with an added cross which makes it more meritorious. Granted the author was not talking about the dark night but simply aridity. But is there a difference of action? During the dark night are we to lay back or persevere?
I don't remember the context of Josh's comment, but we are always to persevere in prayer regardless of how we are feeling, particularly in times of aridity. He may have been talking about the transition from regular meditation into affective prayer in which we begin to stop actively meditating and make an act of the will to simply follow the subtle impulses of love we start to feel. So rather "pulling back" in the sense that the manner in which we're praying changes, but not the fact that we're praying. God bless!
@@MatthewLeonard Thank you for clarifying. I probably missinterpreted him.
Spiritual Direction is alive and well, at least in our area. I'm a spiritual director.😊
To piggyback on Matt's remark that it is horrifying to realize we may waste this infused mystical life, I fell into seasons where I may have 'buried' my talent ...thinking the talent isnt to be traded and given away..hence I figure my private gift was safer unexplored, so I 'buried it'..
This is after years of infused Grace's, making the error more egregious... yet another pitfall to avoid least we warrant the Masters very severe reprimand in the parable of the talents.
Hello, Mr. Leonard. I have a question for you. It may seem like an absurd question; I am often met with resistance when I broach this subject. Regardless, do you believe psychoactive mushrooms have a place in Catholic prayer?
Admittedly, I am quite a newbie when it comes to theology (although I am actively trying to discern God's will as it pertains to theology in my life). I am also aware of the catechism concerning intoxication. However, if I understand Fr. Aumann's works correctly, then I believe such mushrooms may be able to initiate the 5th grade of prayer, if one is truly called to it. I believe it's a practice lost by us Catholics in recent years.
I've been playing the part of guinea pig in my search. If I'm honest with myself, however, I am not entirely sure if I'm onto something, or if I'm somehow confused. After listening to this discussion, I would greatly appreciate your opinion if it can be spared.
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