YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!! Its supposed to emulate the illusion of a time before he left for the war!! (Because that’s the last time he saw penelope owo!)
I love how in scenes he appears younger or as “his ideal self”, like the siren is trying to show him his ideal life and future. It seems to slip when the illusion is broken or he's shifting the conversation. Great idea!
Dude, I get she the whole siren point is they trick you and all... but seriously, look at her. She was literally *melting* right there, and since then she kept adoring him rather than tempting him. Even the other sirens started climbing on board like they were thinking "wtf is happening, why is she taking so long?"
@@TheCatInATux Considering the crew was clearly waiting for all the sirens to be aboard, stalling her must have been the plan all along. Don't care how much he loves his wife, Ody truly is one heartless psychopathic maniac.
Interesting choice have the weird illusion stuff even effect Odysseus; like just speaking the siren makes him think of a time before everything went to hell, lol. Also, really cool choice to have the sirens literally boarding the ship; adds to threat they present that they don't necessarily NEED men to jump into the water, and I fully get why the crew is ducking out of sight until the right time in that case. Great stuff!
From what i've heard it's more accurate. He had the crew cover their ears and sail past while he just tied himself to the mast so that he physically couldn't jump in
@@ilyte1but they promised to give him knowledge in the original myth instead of you know pretending to be Penelope and it would have worked better tbh
Absolutely. It explores this heartbreaking idea of Ody wanting to be affectionate with the siren but needing to remember at the same time who she really is. Like almost letting himself get carried away a bit before pulling himself back to reality. Like I picture him getting caught up in the image of her and dipping the siren romantically but then pulling away, slightly embarrassed and ashamed.
@@crimsonmaverick8237 The worst thing of all is that here it seems the siren may have actually liked the idea. She probably dealt her whole life with sailors throwing themselves in the sea like horny maniacs just by giving a look at her, and then this guy shows up being all delicate, sweet and dad-of-the-year kind of guy. She must have thought "fuck you sisters, I'm gonna marry this one".
I love odys expression when he saw pene. Like we know he prepared for the sirens but seeing his wife would def still make him emotional. Also the end of the song"the things id do for you" if he wouldn't have known that those were sirens, i bet you he'd jump for her
Gosh! I love how even with knowing that he has no daughter, he still very affectionate with her. It's a nice touch, and make think that he'd absolutely be a Girl Dad :3 Wonderful work!
I was just imagining the Siren conjuring up the illusion of toddler Telemachus and thinking "oh this must be his daughter!" Because if the Siren's are able to take on the convincing form of his wife they could do the same with his child. Telemachus was just so adorable as a child they assumed him to a girl :)
The vibes i get from this siren is she does actually kind of mean it. She does want to take the suffering away from him. The dead don't suffer, after all.
i love the detail of him being tied to the ship and for some reason the rest of the crew hiding below deck is really funny, like im jiust picturing they have the other end of the rope and every few minutes just give it a little tug to snap ody back to reality
I absolutely LOVE how subtle it was that the Siren was feeling weak to Odysseus, and that stemmed from the fact that Ody was showing all his love that he had for Penelope onto her look-alike. It seemed as if she knew “he really cares for this person”. Adding onto that it really felt like instead of the Siren trying to lure in Ody it was the other way around, I could practically feel it when she put the child in Ody’s arms. Him holding the child and the Siren looking so warm and content because he himself was so soft with the kid! And then the subtle eye shift of the child’s ‘human’ eyes to ‘siren’ eyes, as if the child was reminding her what the point of all this was. LOVE IT ❤❤❤
Love the little bit at 0:37 where the Siren get's thrown off and almost touched by the genuine love and affection Odysseus has for his wife almost like how he got Circe to trust him only for the siren to take a beat and come back to themselves and their purpose.
OKEY, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST ANIMATIC THAT I'VE SEEN THAT THE LITTLE "oh no" OF THE SIREN SEEMS LIKE GENUINE ( 1:31 ) AND IM CRYING BECAUSE I REMEMBER THEY KILL THEM ALL 😭
Genuine "Oh no" Is honestly I think a better choice than the eye roll. Remember, the sirens are used to putting up a literal paradise of a front. Plus on some level, they understand how scary poseidon is. It's not hard to fake empathy. AND It, of course, adds a layer of tragedy in the next song
@@ilyte1 Totally agree: even if she was only faking interest it would have been a better choice. Still, it's definitely dubious how often this particular siren faked her emotions, because of that blown-away expression she has when he touches her chin. She should have known better than thinking a girl may be so pleasently flabbergasted by her partner touching her.
@@loonelytoon6523 I like to think that that was a genuine reaction - like Odysseus' love for his wife is so strong and genuine that it even took aback someone who's used to seducing men.
@@EraofEra Same, this animatic completely changed my view of this song, and even if surely Jorge didn't intended it like this. It makes Different Beast not only brutal, but genuinely painful. Every time I listen to it I'm like: "just bound the sirens and throw them into the water so that they can free themselves only when you are fare away, they won't follow you towards Scylla anyway, but don't kill this creature you just seduced *like Circe was going to do with you* " (this last part is what hits me the most)
@@loonelytoon6523 ohhh that's so true! Especially when Circe's reason for NOT doing that was explicitly "maybe if I'm kind to you, it'll play a part in the world being kinder as a whole and you'll show mercy to someone else because I showed you mercy". And then instead of that, Different Beast happens
I love how soft and longingly he looks at Penelope and how sweet he is towards the fake daughter, she's absolutely adorable. And the cut back to Eurylocus being like wth when Odysseus does the hair tuck!
Love the little bit at 0:37 where it seems like the Siren is a bit thrown off and moved for a moment by the tenderness and genuine love Odysseus has for his wife almost like how he was able to get Circe to trust him for that very same quality before the siren takes a second to remember it's purpose and go back to trying to trick/eat him.
the way you've drawn and animated Odysseus when looks at his 'daughter' at 0:49 is so goddamn sweet- it makes me think he's actually entertaining the idea of a daughter with Penelope, longing and fond. the emotion on his expression is just beautiful gorgeous storytelling, well done
This animatic tore me to shreds. Siren Penelope sewing in the illusion, reminding Odysseus even more of home; Odysseus in the illusion scenes being younger bc he was pretty young when he left Penelope and Telemachus 😭 but also the part with the crew hiding and dipping when they saw Siren Penelope's true form is so funny🤣 (Also I'm a newcomer to your channel but your opening scene with your pen is SO COOL!!)
I've seen a ton of animatics of this song that are very good, but i really love the inclusion of Odyseus seeing "Penelope" and it actually evoking some emotion in him. He hasnt seen her in over a decade, and ive really felt like that line "dont you miss me? More than you know." Would come with some tears or something. Fantastic interpretation. ❤❤🎉🎉🎉
My theory with the daughter is that the Sirens can only pick up on what people want, so she interpreted a desire for a daughter as a desire for a person who already exists, instead of wanting to go home and have more children with Penelope.
The little glimpses of how the sirens look is extremely clever. This is how Ody and everyone else most likely sees them, because of the Beeswax, but "Penelope" is who we'd see without a means to block the enchanting voice.
Oh, oh I love this The designs of the sirens, the crew hiding under the deck, Eu being worried about Odysseus even though he knows things are going to plan, the flicker of the illusions, then the sirens climbing up behind 'Penelope' to represent Scylla, and then just your wonderful art throughout it all. So much to love in one video
OUGHHH THE EXPRESSIONS ARE SO GOOD. Odysseus crying at seeing his wife, the Sirens waiting below, Siren Penelope's face when he cups it! ODYSSEUS APPEARING YOUNGER WHEN SEEING THE KID AND HER?!!! My heart. Also fhdhshsh the crew popping up deck, seeing the Siren, and going 'nope'. I love the others climbing onto the ship and their faces when Scylla is mentioned, as well as the brief glimpse of her in this! And Siren qualities popping up as the song goes on, like the spikes, ears and eyes and the glitches!!! This is so good!!!! Also OUGHH the sword, which means he has to stab the thing that looks like his wife.
I love that in these animatics the Sirens disguise starts to flicker and become less perfect the longer Odysseus refuses to enter the water. Perhaps it's cause her skin is drying out and it's hard to maintain a disguise when she's dried out?
sdlkfj OH MY WORD!!! EVERYTHING EVERYTHIGN!!! THE DESIGNS! ODYSSEUS TEARING UP AT SEEING HER, HER embroidering, Him going up to hold her face and becoming "young again", him actually playing with the "daughter", the crew peeking before going back under and Eurylochus clearly being worried. PENELOPE WITH HAIR DOWN?!1 lksjd fOHH
Love how you kept the detail of him still being tied to the post in the original story! Also loved the bit where we saw Eurylochus looking up from below deck looking nervous rather that’s in fear for themselves or for Odysseus!
Y'all need to hear this hc bc i think it's adorable - A saw a hc online that the 'daughter' wasn't just an illusion snd was a young siren trying to learn :] (with ofc they leave the fucking baby instead of killing her, maybe found a new pack or smt?)
@@Justatherianfromalotoffandoms I feel awful telling you that there is at least another animatic of this song where the little siren is seeing being captured (if it helps, they looked much more feral there than here), and some other youtuber is going to animate the follow-up song with at least a couple of teenage sirens being murdered (but he already said he won't show it). Unfortunately this moment, just as many others in the musical, has written angst all over its face, and becomes even worst when animated because you can see more of the sirens and that, like Polyphemus or Circe, they may be magical or monstrous but still have something humane in them. But I have to say the Siren falling for Ody in this animatic here is probably the angstier it would ever get. It's so hard to process he is going to kill her, but it is also so intense and after all it's what the story is about: Ody becoming the worst version of himself. EDIT: Btw, since I wrote this I think there have been at least other two animatics of this song featuring the little siren, and one even got its follow-up where she clearly got killed, even if it isn't shown.
@@loonelytoon6523 yh, its def painful to think about but I think where odysseus and the crew are at this point of the story they'd definitely kill the child. Whether it was a teenager or a baby, they wouldn't risk leaving one to survive when they'd then grow up and potentially pose a threat in the future. After everything they went through they wouldn't give the gods an opportunity to bite them in the ass later. Plus the siren would still grow up to eat future human sailors just like them.
@@qazwsx014jsbd8 I think the usefulness of the sirens' massacre remains kinda ambiguous. I ignore if Jorge has a more specific background lore in mind, but if sirens acted like wild animals, not really interested in killing humans until they trespass their territory and make them feel threatened, this may cause even more problems in the future, as Athena said the sirens would be more cautious, which kinda reminds me of Circe and the nymphs situation. After all, I doubt the sirens could have killed people exclusively for food in the first place (the casualties necessary to sustain them would have been enormous I guess). So if they also acted out of mistrust, Ody's actions may have created more problems than solving them.
FINALLY SOMEONE ACTUALLY TIED HIM TO THE MAST!!! Idk why no other animatics do that, it's literally the smartest thing Ody does in that situation and it's just so cool Love this love everything about this whatever u end up doin keep it up cause ur style is CRAZY good
to be fair, it's mostly because, in Epic, there's no need. Ody has also covered his ears in beewax, so he doesn't need to be tied up. Still a neat detail, though!
i love this interpretation of suffering a lot because in different beasts ody says “you oretended to be my wife so i just played along” so i like how when he first saw the siren he was shocked and sad i think its very realistic
This might be my favorite Suffering animatic. Your Sirenelope design is BEAUTIFUL and I love how Ody does seem somewhat entranced by her, only to remind himself it’s not his wife. I also love how flirty this one is verses other portrayals where it’s pretty obvious the siren is not genuine. Love it!!!
I love the little details sprinkled around. Him being tied with a rope, the slit in the 'daugthers' eyes, the crew noping out of there, the sirens design is really cool to and I just love the style of this!
Woah, I love EVERYTHING about this animatic. The fact that Ody changes hairstyle, showing a more “perfect” version of himself, how Penelope slowly, during the end, transforms into her siren form, THE EXPRESSIONS OF EVERY CHARACTER… god, I love this so much (also I love Odysseus’ long hair lol). Fantastic Job!!!
I kind of liked how for the beginning part of the song, it's the siren closing the distance and Odysseus consistently stepping away, but when he asks her about what route to take, he's the one stepping close and the siren's the one turning away to answer. Combined with the fact that it looks like the siren's face does turn sad hearing his situation and even right before she answers his question, it feels like this version's siren shows genuine sympathy for him, even if she is still going to eat him. I saw a lot of other animatics show the siren as uninterested in Odysseus' plight or taking joy in telling him, so this was an interesting interpretation. Though, this siren does go back to smiling as she tells him the answer's "the lair of Scylla", but I liked how serious her face was while initially giving the answer. Because even the sirens take gods' wrath seriously I guess. And when she goes back to smiling, I feel like maybe it's more relief because facing Scylla is bad enough that some people might choose to die here than take that path, so in a way, the siren might still feel assured that she has her prey or that being eaten is the "better" option/a mercy for Odysseus. Then again, I could be entirely wrong and she's just a really good actress committing to the bit.
I love the detail you added of him with the ropes on his hands kinda like from the books Verizon from where he tied himself up because he wanted to hear the sirens songs!!
Something I havent seen anyone else mention: whether it was intentional or not, every siren (including Scylla) has a strand/chunk of hair hanging in front of their face from the water. Siren!Pen has this in her disguise as well, but it isnt affected by the water. Brilliant I tell you ❤
OOOO i love your art style and I think yours is the closest animatic i've seen toying with the "it's a flashback" at the beginning of the song which was what I always imagined to be happening so awesome work!
there's so much to talk about here!!! the way he starts crying the moment he sees her?? the rope tying her to the mast, which has to be my favourite way of doing this scene. the way he sheds, like, ten years when he holds his 'daughter,' representing the chance for a family that he lost to the war. the confusion on Sirenelope's face when Odysseus refuses her. the sheer romance of their interaction. this is so good
AAA this is so pretty!! I love your expression work, even knowing it’s an illusion Ody beings so happy to see her AUGH my heart. also the crew poking their heads up, seeing Sirenelope and going “NOPE no thanks” was so funny
I like how it looks like her song is like- entrancing us since we are the listeners and don't have beeswax so for us it would look like Penelope's truly there y'know? but then the slight flicker of her true form towards the end ugh 10/10 ;0;
Everyone else has already pointed out so many great things about this animatic and they're all right and correct, but I do have to point out the faces the sirens made when siren Penelope mentioned Scylla. Like OH NO, NO, NO, DON'T EVEN GO THERE
Woaah your thumbnail changed that's really epic. I ADORE this animatic with my life, rewatch it so much it's crazy. The art is just inexplicably alive I can't help but be super immersed
I like how this version addresses where the rest of his crew were while this was all happening! (Didnt make them cringe any less while he played his dramatics any more than usual though)
OOF, I absolutely adore this! First off, i love your design for Siren!Penelope, both in the illusion form and the fishy form. i also love Odysseous, and how once the ilusion sets in he becomes younger, I catched it in the second time rewatching, and it's such a nice touch! I love the way you draw anamtomy of the body and hands. The crew waiting beneath the floor was fun, and a good way to fully portray the true form of penelope. I also love how in this animatic instead of being below the water, siren!Penelope was already on the ship, as it to portray a more homely scene to lure them into lowering their guard. I also adore the "daughter", they were adorable and i wonder if they were a siren as well. An instersting idea brought in the shot with the crew is that the beeswax means the ilusion isn't working, so odyssoues is just REALLY good at roleplaying. The siren also appears to get a bit too into the role, a lot of animatics have siren!Penelope be bored when tricking him, stating the thing about scylla but the sirens expressions 1:55 seems to imply they're legitimatelly shocked at her answer. Oh yeah, i also love your scylla design! I adore everyones expressions thought the whole thing, and the way the ilusion somewhat glitches out at 2:25 before setting back in. I love the final shot with odysseous and his sword, you are awesome!.
Just a fun thing to drop by here! The entire animatic odysseus never looked away from penelope (apart from putting down the kid) because he’s reading her lips ^^ that’s why his sometimes ‘off’ look was on purpose and to answer some headcannons He didn’t hear the song, he felt the mist or the smoke ^^ !!
Oh, that makes sense. I thought he was affected just enough to see her as Penelope but not to believe she was actually her, because he was so close that some enchanting soundwaves should have reached him. But I don't really know how proficient beeswax is in isolating sounds, so he could have totally heard nothing at all.
I saw how Odysseus was tied to a pole, in one of the versions of the myth Odysseus actually ties himself while they passed by the sirens so he can listen to their songs. Love it! I love the many interpretation the Epic fandom makes! IT'S SO FUN SEEING EACH LITTLE EASTER EGG THAT EITHER CONNECTS TO THE MYTH ITSELF OR CREATES A BIGGER IMPACT! AH! In love.
I loved the detail of his hands being tied to the post because in the actual book, this is when he is traveling through the sirens and he really wanted to hear their voices so he told his men to tie him to the mast and put wax in their ears so they wouldn't die.
0:52 love that right here we can see the daughter (who i am assuming is a younger siren) looking at siren penelopy like "why aren't we eating him yet", makes me thing this isn't the first time they were disguised as one of their victims kids.(but its definitely the last)
0:38 WAS THE SIREN FALLING IN LOVE THERE?? U CAN ALSO SEE, A FEW SECONDS LATER, SHE LOOKS SAD ONCE HIS TOUCH LEAVES HER, LIKE SHE WAS REGRETTING TRYING TO TEMPT HIM
UGH! I love all the subtleties here! I also love the moment the other sirens appear behind PeneloSiren when she talks about Scylla. Here other heads trying to take the opportunity to monch on some Greek men. I ALSO LOVE HOW SHINY EYED THE SIRENS ARE!!!
@@ChupacabraRex I like to think they were both scared and surprised of hearing Scylla's name. Like they could not understand why she is even helping this guy evading Poseidon.
THIS IS AMAAZING I love it sm omg!! Definitely one of my favourite suffering animatics so far!! The way Odysseus goes back to looking like his younger self... the crew beneath deck ... and Eurylochus' worried glance, like he's concerned that Ody might actually go with the Siren! And the way you draw movement is so good, I could look at it forever aaahh!!
Can I have the daughter instead because BRO THE KID SIREN/WHATEVERITIS IS SO CUTE Also dang the sirens are fr giving it their all Idk how to explain it but the artstyle looks like if it was a cat it would be fluffy
@@Rose_WhiteRose IDK, i'm pretty prolific in commenting on Epic the musical animatics and I also post stories on writing subreddits and spacebattles under the same username.
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WHEN HIS HAIR GETS SHORTER??? LIKE SHES CREATING THE ILLUSION THAT HES YOUNG AND FRESHLY IN LOVE AGAIN UGH I LOVE THAT
YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!! Its supposed to emulate the illusion of a time before he left for the war!! (Because that’s the last time he saw penelope owo!)
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LMK ENJOYER SPOTTED????@@thatonegirlwithtoomanyfandoms
Dude, I noticed that and it was so fucking heartbreaking man😭😭😭😭
Fr tho
I love how the rest of the crew saw siren!Pen and went “Nope! 😰”
it was so funny to draw it honestly
Same 😂😂
She may not be thier queen but she sure looks like her they're not catching that lol
😂😂😂
They were " let's take a look, we are curious." They saw her and were like "nope, let the captain handle it"
I LOVE HOW CRINGED EURYLOCHUS IS WHEN HE SEES ODY'S HAIRTUCK LIKE "BRO FOR REAL??"
and he's his brother in law
*sigh* I love your sister and all captain but sometimes I wonder if you really are a champion of Athena...
"Shut up Eurylochus, you don't even have hair to tuck"
@@neilpakulath1503 LMAO
@@neilpakulath1503CRAZZZYYYYYY
I love how you can tell Odysseus is not as unaffected by seeing his wife as he sounds.
I love how in scenes he appears younger or as “his ideal self”, like the siren is trying to show him his ideal life and future. It seems to slip when the illusion is broken or he's shifting the conversation. Great idea!
Omg thank you for noticing that
The way you kept cutting to the crew below deck is the funniest part of this whole animatic.
The part where they went "nope nuh uh" was funny
The way you made Ody hold the siren as his ‘daughter’ was adorable 🥰
0:40 I *love* the subtlest change in her eye here. 'Dang. I have to switch tactics, smooth and quick if we're going to have a chance of eating today.'
Dude, I get she the whole siren point is they trick you and all... but seriously, look at her. She was literally *melting* right there, and since then she kept adoring him rather than tempting him. Even the other sirens started climbing on board like they were thinking "wtf is happening, why is she taking so long?"
odysseus rizzed her up good
@@TheCatInATux Considering the crew was clearly waiting for all the sirens to be aboard, stalling her must have been the plan all along. Don't care how much he loves his wife, Ody truly is one heartless psychopathic maniac.
Nah, She was contemplating whether to eat him up, or Eat him up
@@edrian_4043 Right? The sudden revelation about the different ways you could eat somebody up must have been what surprised her so much.
Interesting choice have the weird illusion stuff even effect Odysseus; like just speaking the siren makes him think of a time before everything went to hell, lol. Also, really cool choice to have the sirens literally boarding the ship; adds to threat they present that they don't necessarily NEED men to jump into the water, and I fully get why the crew is ducking out of sight until the right time in that case. Great stuff!
From what i've heard it's more accurate. He had the crew cover their ears and sail past while he just tied himself to the mast so that he physically couldn't jump in
@@ilyte1but they promised to give him knowledge in the original myth instead of you know pretending to be Penelope and it would have worked better tbh
Honestly this is the one major change he made that I don't like @@ilyte1
I love how much you showed Ody directly interacting with siren!Penelope it makes everything so much sadder in a way
Absolutely. It explores this heartbreaking idea of Ody wanting to be affectionate with the siren but needing to remember at the same time who she really is. Like almost letting himself get carried away a bit before pulling himself back to reality.
Like I picture him getting caught up in the image of her and dipping the siren romantically but then pulling away, slightly embarrassed and ashamed.
@@crimsonmaverick8237ehehehhe,,,
@@crimsonmaverick8237 The worst thing of all is that here it seems the siren may have actually liked the idea. She probably dealt her whole life with sailors throwing themselves in the sea like horny maniacs just by giving a look at her, and then this guy shows up being all delicate, sweet and dad-of-the-year kind of guy. She must have thought "fuck you sisters, I'm gonna marry this one".
I love odys expression when he saw pene. Like we know he prepared for the sirens but seeing his wife would def still make him emotional. Also the end of the song"the things id do for you" if he wouldn't have known that those were sirens, i bet you he'd jump for her
Gosh! I love how even with knowing that he has no daughter, he still very affectionate with her. It's a nice touch, and make think that he'd absolutely be a Girl Dad :3
Wonderful work!
regardless, he's still a dad !
I was just imagining the Siren conjuring up the illusion of toddler Telemachus and thinking "oh this must be his daughter!" Because if the Siren's are able to take on the convincing form of his wife they could do the same with his child. Telemachus was just so adorable as a child they assumed him to a girl :)
Looks like Telemachus is gonna have a competition
Odysseus would absolutely be the cutest girl dad!
That makes me think of that one post I read about oddyseus adopting Cassandra.
Yeah he’d be a great girl dad.
The vibes i get from this siren is she does actually kind of mean it. She does want to take the suffering away from him.
The dead don't suffer, after all.
This is the first one I’ve seen that goes with the original story of Odysseus being tired up which I think is cool
THANK YOU SM, I'VE LOVED THE STORIES SINCE I WAS 14
Hey question why was he tied up for bait? Or something
@he is curious about the sirens song so he wants to hear it
But to make sure he doesn’t fall in he makes his crew tie him to the post
@@Bioboo171 ah okay thank you so much for explaining I was really confused at first
i love the detail of him being tied to the ship and for some reason the rest of the crew hiding below deck is really funny, like im jiust picturing they have the other end of the rope and every few minutes just give it a little tug to snap ody back to reality
Maybe that's why they took a peek above deck, Sirenelope had untied him and they realized there was no one on the other end.
@@illuminategacha9776 or they heard what he was saying and were just whispering to each other like “guys the captains simping someone pull the rope”
@@sam.sketti they probably have to pull it hard sometimes incase he gets pulled by a siren or someshit
@@Ella-cd1qt probably
@@sam.sketti imagine they have to tug the rope sometimes just incase the sirens untie the rope or he gets out of their sight
I absolutely LOVE how subtle it was that the Siren was feeling weak to Odysseus, and that stemmed from the fact that Ody was showing all his love that he had for Penelope onto her look-alike. It seemed as if she knew “he really cares for this person”.
Adding onto that it really felt like instead of the Siren trying to lure in Ody it was the other way around, I could practically feel it when she put the child in Ody’s arms. Him holding the child and the Siren looking so warm and content because he himself was so soft with the kid! And then the subtle eye shift of the child’s ‘human’ eyes to ‘siren’ eyes, as if the child was reminding her what the point of all this was. LOVE IT ❤❤❤
Not going to lie. I love how there's a lot of siren magic going on here also this is a first her already coming on the ship
I saw a different one where she came up on the ship, basically unchanged, and even used her tail to pull him closer.
@@ilyte1 Ooo I'll have to look into that
@@meganmay5277 theres also one where she comes on the ship at the end by Ns2d studios
@@ilyte1 Where do I find this?
@@illuminategacha9776 th-cam.com/video/gEVTTWjZ1-M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=AVgYIMTNobTk0XmL
1:14 yeah, I’m the crew with seeing Siren Penelope! I love it! “I ain’t going up there with you cap! I’m staying down here!” 🤣🤣
“Let’s just take a peak. It shouldn’t be too bad…”
Sees siren Penelope.
“… nope. Captain got this.
Lmao. Mood. Same here 😂😂😂
Love the little bit at 0:37 where the Siren get's thrown off and almost touched by the genuine love and affection Odysseus has for his wife almost like how he got Circe to trust him only for the siren to take a beat and come back to themselves and their purpose.
OKEY, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST ANIMATIC THAT I'VE SEEN THAT THE LITTLE "oh no" OF THE SIREN SEEMS LIKE GENUINE ( 1:31 ) AND IM CRYING BECAUSE I REMEMBER THEY KILL THEM ALL 😭
Genuine "Oh no" Is honestly I think a better choice than the eye roll. Remember, the sirens are used to putting up a literal paradise of a front. Plus on some level, they understand how scary poseidon is. It's not hard to fake empathy.
AND It, of course, adds a layer of tragedy in the next song
@@ilyte1 Totally agree: even if she was only faking interest it would have been a better choice. Still, it's definitely dubious how often this particular siren faked her emotions, because of that blown-away expression she has when he touches her chin. She should have known better than thinking a girl may be so pleasently flabbergasted by her partner touching her.
@@loonelytoon6523 I like to think that that was a genuine reaction - like Odysseus' love for his wife is so strong and genuine that it even took aback someone who's used to seducing men.
@@EraofEra Same, this animatic completely changed my view of this song, and even if surely Jorge didn't intended it like this. It makes Different Beast not only brutal, but genuinely painful. Every time I listen to it I'm like: "just bound the sirens and throw them into the water so that they can free themselves only when you are fare away, they won't follow you towards Scylla anyway, but don't kill this creature you just seduced *like Circe was going to do with you* " (this last part is what hits me the most)
@@loonelytoon6523 ohhh that's so true! Especially when Circe's reason for NOT doing that was explicitly "maybe if I'm kind to you, it'll play a part in the world being kinder as a whole and you'll show mercy to someone else because I showed you mercy". And then instead of that, Different Beast happens
I love how soft and longingly he looks at Penelope and how sweet he is towards the fake daughter, she's absolutely adorable.
And the cut back to Eurylocus being like wth when Odysseus does the hair tuck!
Love the little bit at 0:37 where it seems like the Siren is a bit thrown off and moved for a moment by the tenderness and genuine love Odysseus has for his wife almost like how he was able to get Circe to trust him for that very same quality before the siren takes a second to remember it's purpose and go back to trying to trick/eat him.
That was actually pretty good! Its quite original, I especially like how the rest of the crew was just hiding under the deck and watching the show!
the way you've drawn and animated Odysseus when looks at his 'daughter' at 0:49 is so goddamn sweet- it makes me think he's actually entertaining the idea of a daughter with Penelope, longing and fond. the emotion on his expression is just beautiful
gorgeous storytelling, well done
captain or not, that man is still a father ^^
Okay but the siren’s expression at 1:30 is the absolute cutest thing! And the “oh no” expression was so fitting and just as cute 🥰
This animatic tore me to shreds. Siren Penelope sewing in the illusion, reminding Odysseus even more of home; Odysseus in the illusion scenes being younger bc he was pretty young when he left Penelope and Telemachus 😭 but also the part with the crew hiding and dipping when they saw Siren Penelope's true form is so funny🤣 (Also I'm a newcomer to your channel but your opening scene with your pen is SO COOL!!)
Siren: “~Come and play with our daughter~!”
Odysseus: *No, look, I was...Wait a minute. Penelope would never say that* (Ice Age 4)
0:39 "...s-so this is what it feels like.." o///o
Gosh you're the only one that had the siren actually get a bit flustered from Ody.
I've seen a ton of animatics of this song that are very good, but i really love the inclusion of Odyseus seeing "Penelope" and it actually evoking some emotion in him. He hasnt seen her in over a decade, and ive really felt like that line "dont you miss me? More than you know." Would come with some tears or something.
Fantastic interpretation. ❤❤🎉🎉🎉
My theory with the daughter is that the Sirens can only pick up on what people want, so she interpreted a desire for a daughter as a desire for a person who already exists, instead of wanting to go home and have more children with Penelope.
The little glimpses of how the sirens look is extremely clever. This is how Ody and everyone else most likely sees them, because of the Beeswax, but "Penelope" is who we'd see without a means to block the enchanting voice.
Oh, oh I love this
The designs of the sirens, the crew hiding under the deck, Eu being worried about Odysseus even though he knows things are going to plan, the flicker of the illusions, then the sirens climbing up behind 'Penelope' to represent Scylla, and then just your wonderful art throughout it all. So much to love in one video
AMAZINGGG
I absolutely LOVE how you made him younger in the siren illusion thing
screams
The loose hair in combination with the glitching and the invading sirens is majestic and terrifying
(Plus the crew nope-ing out 😂)
Love love love this, adore how the siren's illusion is portrayed here
OUGHHH THE EXPRESSIONS ARE SO GOOD. Odysseus crying at seeing his wife, the Sirens waiting below, Siren Penelope's face when he cups it! ODYSSEUS APPEARING YOUNGER WHEN SEEING THE KID AND HER?!!! My heart. Also fhdhshsh the crew popping up deck, seeing the Siren, and going 'nope'. I love the others climbing onto the ship and their faces when Scylla is mentioned, as well as the brief glimpse of her in this! And Siren qualities popping up as the song goes on, like the spikes, ears and eyes and the glitches!!! This is so good!!!! Also OUGHH the sword, which means he has to stab the thing that looks like his wife.
I like how the style of her hair sort of has an anglers lure at the front of it, implying the undertone of a threat.
I love that in these animatics the Sirens disguise starts to flicker and become less perfect the longer Odysseus refuses to enter the water. Perhaps it's cause her skin is drying out and it's hard to maintain a disguise when she's dried out?
sdlkfj OH MY WORD!!! EVERYTHING EVERYTHIGN!!! THE DESIGNS! ODYSSEUS TEARING UP AT SEEING HER, HER embroidering, Him going up to hold her face and becoming "young again", him actually playing with the "daughter", the crew peeking before going back under and Eurylochus clearly being worried. PENELOPE WITH HAIR DOWN?!1 lksjd fOHH
My ears must have water in them because every time they sing 'I can/will take from the suffering from you' I hear 'I will drown you.'
Love how you kept the detail of him still being tied to the post in the original story! Also loved the bit where we saw Eurylochus looking up from below deck looking nervous rather that’s in fear for themselves or for Odysseus!
Y'all need to hear this hc bc i think it's adorable -
A saw a hc online that the 'daughter' wasn't just an illusion snd was a young siren trying to learn :] (with ofc they leave the fucking baby instead of killing her, maybe found a new pack or smt?)
@@Justatherianfromalotoffandoms I feel awful telling you that there is at least another animatic of this song where the little siren is seeing being captured (if it helps, they looked much more feral there than here), and some other youtuber is going to animate the follow-up song with at least a couple of teenage sirens being murdered (but he already said he won't show it). Unfortunately this moment, just as many others in the musical, has written angst all over its face, and becomes even worst when animated because you can see more of the sirens and that, like Polyphemus or Circe, they may be magical or monstrous but still have something humane in them. But I have to say the Siren falling for Ody in this animatic here is probably the angstier it would ever get. It's so hard to process he is going to kill her, but it is also so intense and after all it's what the story is about: Ody becoming the worst version of himself.
EDIT: Btw, since I wrote this I think there have been at least other two animatics of this song featuring the little siren, and one even got its follow-up where she clearly got killed, even if it isn't shown.
@@loonelytoon6523 yh, its def painful to think about but I think where odysseus and the crew are at this point of the story they'd definitely kill the child. Whether it was a teenager or a baby, they wouldn't risk leaving one to survive when they'd then grow up and potentially pose a threat in the future. After everything they went through they wouldn't give the gods an opportunity to bite them in the ass later. Plus the siren would still grow up to eat future human sailors just like them.
@@qazwsx014jsbd8 I think the usefulness of the sirens' massacre remains kinda ambiguous. I ignore if Jorge has a more specific background lore in mind, but if sirens acted like wild animals, not really interested in killing humans until they trespass their territory and make them feel threatened, this may cause even more problems in the future, as Athena said the sirens would be more cautious, which kinda reminds me of Circe and the nymphs situation. After all, I doubt the sirens could have killed people exclusively for food in the first place (the casualties necessary to sustain them would have been enormous I guess). So if they also acted out of mistrust, Ody's actions may have created more problems than solving them.
FINALLY SOMEONE ACTUALLY TIED HIM TO THE MAST!!! Idk why no other animatics do that, it's literally the smartest thing Ody does in that situation and it's just so cool
Love this love everything about this whatever u end up doin keep it up cause ur style is CRAZY good
I adore the odyssey and studied the books years ago! im glad someone appreciates the little things in the animatic :,))💜
to be fair, it's mostly because, in Epic, there's no need. Ody has also covered his ears in beewax, so he doesn't need to be tied up. Still a neat detail, though!
i love this interpretation of suffering a lot because in different beasts ody says “you oretended to be my wife so i just played along” so i like how when he first saw the siren he was shocked and sad i think its very realistic
Cute fluffy art style. So cute. So fluffy. I sure hope nothing bad happens to any of them!
i hope so !
This might be my favorite Suffering animation just because of the crew and the siren daughter!! She’s so cute!
i love this deeper, custom illusion of the sirens! and how odysseus says "more than you'll ever know", he's talking to the siren
This might be my favorite Suffering animatic. Your Sirenelope design is BEAUTIFUL and I love how Ody does seem somewhat entranced by her, only to remind himself it’s not his wife. I also love how flirty this one is verses other portrayals where it’s pretty obvious the siren is not genuine. Love it!!!
I love the little details sprinkled around. Him being tied with a rope, the slit in the 'daugthers' eyes, the crew noping out of there, the sirens design is really cool to and I just love the style of this!
I love how the sirens climb onto the ship at this lineeee 2:27
(ALSO I FREAKING LOVE THE WAY YOU DRAW HANDS)
The little slit pupils showing that the baby is a siren......
0:38 Odysseus has that masked charm in him
Woah, I love EVERYTHING about this animatic. The fact that Ody changes hairstyle, showing a more “perfect” version of himself, how Penelope slowly, during the end, transforms into her siren form, THE EXPRESSIONS OF EVERY CHARACTER… god, I love this so much (also I love Odysseus’ long hair lol). Fantastic Job!!!
I love how long his hair is! And all the sirens climbing on deck at the end is so cool! Also your Scylla design is incredible!!!
Nice try beast! We all know there's no way that the real Penelope is shorter than Odysseus.
Your facade was nearly perfect. Nearly
Finally someone who ties Ody to the mast!! (Well, kinda, but still), I was hoping someone would pick that up from the books!
I kind of liked how for the beginning part of the song, it's the siren closing the distance and Odysseus consistently stepping away, but when he asks her about what route to take, he's the one stepping close and the siren's the one turning away to answer. Combined with the fact that it looks like the siren's face does turn sad hearing his situation and even right before she answers his question, it feels like this version's siren shows genuine sympathy for him, even if she is still going to eat him.
I saw a lot of other animatics show the siren as uninterested in Odysseus' plight or taking joy in telling him, so this was an interesting interpretation.
Though, this siren does go back to smiling as she tells him the answer's "the lair of Scylla", but I liked how serious her face was while initially giving the answer. Because even the sirens take gods' wrath seriously I guess. And when she goes back to smiling, I feel like maybe it's more relief because facing Scylla is bad enough that some people might choose to die here than take that path, so in a way, the siren might still feel assured that she has her prey or that being eaten is the "better" option/a mercy for Odysseus.
Then again, I could be entirely wrong and she's just a really good actress committing to the bit.
I love the detail you added of him with the ropes on his hands kinda like from the books Verizon from where he tied himself up because he wanted to hear the sirens songs!!
Something I havent seen anyone else mention: whether it was intentional or not, every siren (including Scylla) has a strand/chunk of hair hanging in front of their face from the water. Siren!Pen has this in her disguise as well, but it isnt affected by the water. Brilliant I tell you ❤
Appreciate Ody being tied up at the start. It's a detail I love to see in animatics for this song.
OOOO i love your art style and I think yours is the closest animatic i've seen toying with the "it's a flashback" at the beginning of the song which was what I always imagined to be happening so awesome work!
there's so much to talk about here!!! the way he starts crying the moment he sees her?? the rope tying her to the mast, which has to be my favourite way of doing this scene. the way he sheds, like, ten years when he holds his 'daughter,' representing the chance for a family that he lost to the war. the confusion on Sirenelope's face when Odysseus refuses her. the sheer romance of their interaction. this is so good
AAA this is so pretty!! I love your expression work, even knowing it’s an illusion Ody beings so happy to see her AUGH my heart. also the crew poking their heads up, seeing Sirenelope and going “NOPE no thanks” was so funny
I like how it looks like her song is like- entrancing us since we are the listeners and don't have beeswax so for us it would look like Penelope's truly there y'know? but then the slight flicker of her true form towards the end ugh 10/10 ;0;
Everyone else has already pointed out so many great things about this animatic and they're all right and correct, but I do have to point out the faces the sirens made when siren Penelope mentioned Scylla. Like OH NO, NO, NO, DON'T EVEN GO THERE
Odysause design changing in the middle of mv is so smooth I barely noticed😭
The fact that she act to genuine 😢
Woaah your thumbnail changed that's really epic. I ADORE this animatic with my life, rewatch it so much it's crazy. The art is just inexplicably alive I can't help but be super immersed
Oh I love love loved the tears in Odysseus's eyes when he first sees "Penelope"
One of my favorites just for the art style. And I like how you play the genuine tension for both of their crews
I like how this version addresses where the rest of his crew were while this was all happening! (Didnt make them cringe any less while he played his dramatics any more than usual though)
Siren Penelope: It’s through the lair of Scylla~
Other sirens: O_O sis are you fine??? Scylla's really scary why you talk about her...
OOF, I absolutely adore this! First off, i love your design for Siren!Penelope, both in the illusion form and the fishy form. i also love Odysseous, and how once the ilusion sets in he becomes younger, I catched it in the second time rewatching, and it's such a nice touch! I love the way you draw anamtomy of the body and hands. The crew waiting beneath the floor was fun, and a good way to fully portray the true form of penelope. I also love how in this animatic instead of being below the water, siren!Penelope was already on the ship, as it to portray a more homely scene to lure them into lowering their guard. I also adore the "daughter", they were adorable and i wonder if they were a siren as well. An instersting idea brought in the shot with the crew is that the beeswax means the ilusion isn't working, so odyssoues is just REALLY good at roleplaying. The siren also appears to get a bit too into the role, a lot of animatics have siren!Penelope be bored when tricking him, stating the thing about scylla but the sirens expressions 1:55 seems to imply they're legitimatelly shocked at her answer. Oh yeah, i also love your scylla design! I adore everyones expressions thought the whole thing, and the way the ilusion somewhat glitches out at 2:25 before setting back in. I love the final shot with odysseous and his sword, you are awesome!.
I LOVE the way you draw the sirens, and people!! Your artsyle to to d¡e for!
THIS IS LITERALLY INBETWEENS AWAY FROM BEING AN ANIMATION HOLY SHIT THIS IS GORGEOUS
Historically accurate blade!
Gigi gets alot credit for their animations and they deserve it, but alot of artists like you don't get enough credit, this was amazing!
Just a fun thing to drop by here! The entire animatic odysseus never looked away from penelope (apart from putting down the kid) because he’s reading her lips ^^ that’s why his sometimes ‘off’ look was on purpose and to answer some headcannons
He didn’t hear the song, he felt the mist or the smoke ^^ !!
Oh, that makes sense. I thought he was affected just enough to see her as Penelope but not to believe she was actually her, because he was so close that some enchanting soundwaves should have reached him. But I don't really know how proficient beeswax is in isolating sounds, so he could have totally heard nothing at all.
I saw how Odysseus was tied to a pole, in one of the versions of the myth Odysseus actually ties himself while they passed by the sirens so he can listen to their songs. Love it! I love the many interpretation the Epic fandom makes! IT'S SO FUN SEEING EACH LITTLE EASTER EGG THAT EITHER CONNECTS TO THE MYTH ITSELF OR CREATES A BIGGER IMPACT! AH! In love.
Yooo I would LOVE to see the Cyclops Saga in your style!!
I loved the detail of his hands being tied to the post because in the actual book, this is when he is traveling through the sirens and he really wanted to hear their voices so he told his men to tie him to the mast and put wax in their ears so they wouldn't die.
0:52 love that right here we can see the daughter (who i am assuming is a younger siren) looking at siren penelopy like "why aren't we eating him yet", makes me thing this isn't the first time they were disguised as one of their victims kids.(but its definitely the last)
Totally felt like she suspected her mother had other plans for him and she didn't like that
I LOVE THE LITTLE ADDITION OF ODYSSEUS BEING TIED TO THE SHIP LIKE IN THE ACTUAL ODDYSEY😭😭
0:38 WAS THE SIREN FALLING IN LOVE THERE?? U CAN ALSO SEE, A FEW SECONDS LATER, SHE LOOKS SAD ONCE HIS TOUCH LEAVES HER, LIKE SHE WAS REGRETTING TRYING TO TEMPT HIM
I will have nightmares when this girl puts out the animatic for Different Beast
UGH! I love all the subtleties here! I also love the moment the other sirens appear behind PeneloSiren when she talks about Scylla. Here other heads trying to take the opportunity to monch on some Greek men. I ALSO LOVE HOW SHINY EYED THE SIRENS ARE!!!
This is one of the best i have seen yet ! I absolutely love the caracther design and how much it actually resembols the odissy
The boat at the beginning
I feel like she REALLY wanted to take his suffering, she seemed to genuinely like him 😭
1:30 I love her face so much "oh no😟" 😭😭
She truly cared about him here, I can't stop thinking about it, it's so sad and even explains why she tells him what he wanted to know
@@loonelytoon6523 The face of the other sirens at 1:55 was just awesome.
@@ChupacabraRex I like to think they were both scared and surprised of hearing Scylla's name. Like they could not understand why she is even helping this guy evading Poseidon.
THIS IS AMAAZING I love it sm omg!! Definitely one of my favourite suffering animatics so far!! The way Odysseus goes back to looking like his younger self... the crew beneath deck ... and Eurylochus' worried glance, like he's concerned that Ody might actually go with the Siren! And the way you draw movement is so good, I could look at it forever aaahh!!
oh brother
I love how even your Scylla’s human half looks like it could fuck you up
Him with the baby siren is so cute tho 🥹
Too bad he kills her ☹️
This is the most detailed animatic so far. I've been binging.
1:14 no one:
THIS FRAME:
THIS HAD NO REASON TO MAKE ME LAUGH AS MUCH AS IT DID LMAO😭😭 the expressions are killing me 😂😂😂😂
2:14 Eurylocus no soportando el coqueteo de Ody. Amé
Can I have the daughter instead because BRO THE KID SIREN/WHATEVERITIS IS SO CUTE
Also dang the sirens are fr giving it their all
Idk how to explain it but the artstyle looks like if it was a cat it would be fluffy
That siren is absolutely adorable!
@@ChupacabraRex YES IT IS and why do I know that username from somewhere or maybe its just a similar one
@@Rose_WhiteRose IDK, i'm pretty prolific in commenting on Epic the musical animatics and I also post stories on writing subreddits and spacebattles under the same username.
@@ChupacabraRex Ah ok
1:36 Why are the sirens giant eyes so flippin cute!!!!!!
I LOVE ODY’S LONG HAIR SO MUCH
This animatic is so cool :D
I love the crew peeking out 😭😭🫶
I really like all the extra little scenes you made, it built up the story, and felt very cinematic because of it. Great gob!