This grand old ship is in my home town. All guns are plastic replicas to eleviate the weight on the decks. Been on her twice and both times found it fascinating.
H.M.S. Unicorn was built at the Chatham dockyard in England and launched in 1824, she was never actually fitted with masts as by the time she was launched she was no longer required as part of the fleet so became part of what was effectively the Royal Navy Reserve force of the day, in the 1850’s she was used as a “Powder Hulk” storing gunpowder in the Medway, in the 1870’s she was towed to Dundee.
That’s £5 million quid well spent on saving the history of the nation for the education of future generations: “If we want to know where we are going we need to know where we have come from.”
The Leda Class frigates all carried twenty-eight 18-pound cannon on their gun-decks, not thirty-two of them, as is erroneously stated here. The upper-deck chase guns were long 9-pounders, not 18-pounders, and the Carronade "smashers" were 32-pounders, not 12-pounders.
As a member of the Nautical Training Corps, ( TS Zealous) I stayed on the Foudroyant around 1957 . Had a great time and learnt how difficult it was to rig and get into a hammock. Great memories. Thanks for the video
Can you still remember how to tie a “marlin hitch” when you had to pack away the hammocks? That’s a skill has stayed with me for 50 years and I still think of The Foudroyant with a smile when I tie anything up using that knot.
Yep I did too. Two years 1957 and 58. I remember being allocated with a crew of six to row over to Gosport and pick up provisions milk etc. Great days, sadly tying knots has long receded in my memory I'm afraid.
Wow, I remember two, week long summer holidays spent on board, it was the best. Sailing to the isle of Wight (in wooden hulled boats), small sailing dingies and us standing out on deck in our PJ's in the middle of the night because we wouldn't settle down to sleep. ;) Sleeping in the Hammocks was SO cool, the gentle rocking of the boat or more when the weather wasn't so friendly! I'm so pleased to see she's still afloat and restored for other generations to enjoy.
We must all be Pompey school kids then? Copnor Road Junior School, must have been the Summer of ‘69 - and no Bryan Adam’s on the radio... but there was Zager and Evans “In the year 2525” number 1 in that summer... How worryingly prescient is that!
I spent a week on board in the early 70s. Use and another school from London. Remember the trip over to Isle of Wight. Could never stow my hammock right.
Beautiful frigate and I'm glad she is still afloat but and this is a big BUT, she is not the oldest frigate/warship afloat; that honor belongs to the USS CONSTITUTION, which was launched in 1797 and remains commissioned to this day. This takes nothing away from this beautiful Leda class frigate and I hope to see her in person myself someday.
@@tonyromano6220 Each of the ships mentioned holds there own unique distinctions, all worth noting, and there is nothing wrong at all with each Nation having pride in their ships and those sailors and Marines that served on those ships.
Brilliant ship and museum really enjoyed my visit couple years ago lots in that part of County Durham Beamish, Raby Castle and Bowes Museum in Barnard Castle
Well done, I have been reading a great deal of fiction regards The Royal Navy in Nelsons time... I have actually visited this ship... (I don't actualy live that far away from it). I found this video very informative.... a joy to watch..
I remember her as the Boys Training ship in Portsmouth. We used to regularly go past her in the RMs Motorboat, when collecting stores from Priddys Hard. I was on the Vanguard then, and I remember the Sheds built on her upper deck as accommodation. Hartlepool have done an excellent job on her, and she is well worth a visit.
I remember many happy summers spent on board this ship, when she was known as TS Foudroyant, as Dad was employed as a sailing instructor with her for quite a few years. I can still smell the teak, tar and salt that pervaded below decks and getting in the hammocks was an art, but oh! so comfortable for sleeping.
I was on Foudroyant for a week's training two years running, would have been 1956/57. Great training, sailing to the Isle of Wight in the ships walers. Must pay her a visit on my next trip to Scotland.
She is not typical of a British Frigate of that time She's very heavy (teak) and those cannon are uncommonly large. She's actually more like a US "frigate" (they were cut down fifties) as there was a trend for bigger heavier ships as the war wore on. It's that teak build that saved her for posterity, it servived where traditional would have rotted.
Which US frigates are you talking about? If you mean the Humphreys frigates they were not cut-down fifties. All six were built as designed, 44- and 38-gun frigates.
@@americanmade6996 But were significantly more heavily armed, manned and the scantlings dwarfed those of any regular 5th rates. Even the Chesapeake that was defeated by Shannon in the only 'equal' duel of the War of 1812 was a bigger ship. They were essentially castrated 4th rates.
@@doug6500 True, although I disagree with the characterization “castrated 4th rates”. Unlike true 4th rates the Humphreys were never intended for the line of battle and were not designed with a 4th rate's battery in mind. I’m not even sure Humphreys or the USN paid any attention to the British system of rates. If anything their operational concept-especially the first three-adumbrated Jackie Fisher’s battlecruisers, a hundred years in the future.
I think you'll find that the oldest floating wooden warship is the USS Constitution which when she battled and ultimately sank the HMS Java ironically destroyed the cannon being transported to India to arm HMS Trimocalee
The HMS Trimocalee's sister ship, the HMS Shannon, would call out and then defeat in detail the USS Chesapeake in front of a baying crowd just outside Boston harbour.
Kevin, what a beautiful production, thanks. I was back on the decks last week, forty years after spending a week on board with a school trip. It was an extraordinary experience and I was so moved to be back on the ship again. Your video is another great reminder.
I believe the narrator would do well to read all of the C.S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels. He would obtain a very good education in British Naval terminology.
Steven Duffy has it right on the gun sizes for this class ... Nice ship !! Fairly fast for that era, possibly 12 to 13 knots in a blow ! Brits built some very good warships even though they copied hull forms from the French. Wish the commentator was a little more enthusiastic !
The narrator refers to the smaller guns on the quarter deck as 'cannonades'. That is wrong, they are 'carronades' named after their manufacturer the Carron Iron Company of Falkirk, Scotland.
Oddly he refers to 18lb guns and 12lb carronades* on the quarterdeck... while I'd have expected 9lb guns and 32lb carronades on the F'csle and quarterdeck... and 18lb guns on the main battery "as built" *though as you note he misnames this type of weapon as well.
The reason that Trincomalee (and Edwin Fox in New Zealand) remain is that they were built to far higher specs than standards in Britain, by Indian shipwrights, those standards originating from Parsi traditions.
Not the oldest floating warship, the USS Constitution is 20 years older, still commissioned, and cruises the harbor once a year, to turn her around so she weathers evenly.
@@ejd53 Still the oldest though and ACTUALLY punched at her weight and above in several epic naval battles. Also, Trincomalee will invariably be the oldest still afloat when the other goes into dry dock. Victory, however, remains the oldest commissioned warship. End of. Full stop. Period. The whole 'afloat' thing is a desperate attempt to try and steal the limelight from a ship of far greater maritime significance and reverence. What are they gonna do... sail out and take on a Type 23?
Dude there’s no way that can be the oldest warship afloat considering that the uss constitution was laid down 1797 and fighting in the war of 1812. Also she still retains her commission as well.
This unfortunately might occasionally be correct. The'Oldest warship afloat' must be in water - I had this 'conversation' on board the USS Constitution, in Boston harbour - when I informed the 'tour guide' that his claim (in February 1992), was not correct, as it was in drydock undergoing a three year refit - and HMS Victory which was in water at that time, predated the US vessel by 'many years' (Poor chap did not even know where the 'Spar Lash' was on the vessel either, and to boot he had a button missing from his period 'uniform'. Unfortunately he swore when he noticed it 'SH*T' - to which I informed him that would be twelve lashes for cursing in front of an officer. Had to depart the tour early at that point as we were on a time limit - The Bull & Finch Bar - as in 'Cheers' was open downtown - and calling).
@@williamanderson5437 so do you only count the time from the last drydocking? I don't think so. Your claim is based on legalistic hair splitting. The USS Constitution is older. Even so, HMS Trincomalee has spent more time sailing in one or more form of service (in or out of the Royal Navy) for a longer period of time that the USS Constitution. By the way, when WAS the Trincomalee last in drydock? There's work to maintain her hull that can only be done in a drydock, which is why when you were talking to that sailor Old Ironsides was in drydock, and has been since 1992 for just that reason.
No British-built warship was ever an exact copy of a French capture. The contemporary phrase was, 'taken from the lines of...', meaning that the hull shape, essentially the underwater hull shape, was copied. British ships were of far more robust build quality than French ships, fastenings were stronger and the distance between the major structural elements of the hull skeleton was less. This is reflected in the cost of keeping French captures seaworthy, compared to British-built ships. French ships in Royal Navy service required more frequent and more extensive dockyard repair and maintenance time than their British-built equivalents and were often given additional structural strengthening. The only exact copy built by the British in this period was of the captured American 44-gun frigate USS President, and American build quality was much more robust than that of the French.
Great film. The errors have been mentioned elsewhere. But I do wish they'd chosen a narrator who could pronounce the words properly. He sounds rather tearful and melancholic - like eeyore talking to Winnie the poo and piglet.
We Yanks lost a frigate to one of the Leda class ships. That ship was HMS Shannon, rated as a 38 gun frigate if I remember correctly. She and her company under Sir Philip Broke fought and captured the USS Chesapeake, also a 38 gun frigate under Captain James Lawrence.
@Alexander Challis Thank you sir. I can appreciate the effort Captain Broke and his company put into making HMS Shannon a well oiled fighting unit. Preparation for the fight with Chesapeake actually began shortly after Captain Broke first assumed command of Shannon years earlier, even today it takes time and effort to weld anywhere from 2 to several thousand individuals into a functioning warship crew. Their victory was well earned. USN retired enlisted here, destroyer and assault ship sailor (prefer destroyers.)
@@robertf3479 Honestly, aside from having a decent complement, the reason Shannon was able to defeat Chesapeake was because for once an American (heavy) frigate did not COMPLETELY dwarf that of its (light/regular) British opponent. Chesapeake had 60 more crew and her scantlings were a bit larger, but the armament was pretty much the same. It was the only fair frigate duel of the war.
@@doug6500 To be perfectly honest, Captain Lawrence was a fool to challenge the Shannon. He had taken command of Chesapeake only a short time earlier and his crew was not well trained, many of them having joined the ship only a short time before and had not had the opportunity to train at sea. Captain Sir Phillip Broke was well known to most USN officers by reputation. Under these same conditions (new Captain and untrained crew,) HMS Shannon under Broke could have successfully fought any of the USN 44 gun ships and won handily. Not trying to take anything away from Captain Broke and Shannon's crew, they were prepared, they did it right and it showed.
The initial title claims this is the oldest warship still afloat. It isn't. The USS Constitution, in Boston Harbor, was launched in 1797 and remains afloat. Several year ago it was even taken out into the harbor and sailed under her own power.
I remember many years back seeing a mastless hulk moored in the river Fal. . Iam sure it had gun ports but memory can play tricks. Maybe somebody can throw some light on that.
French shipbuilding and designing, truly masterful! No wonder the Royal Navy used to launch entire series of ships based on captured French or Spanish ships and British officers only wished to get command of one of those, when British ship designing and building was so backwards.
Trincomali Channel in British Columbia is named after this ship - "Named in 1858 by Captain Richards, after HMS Trincomalee, sailing frigate/24 guns, Captain Wallace Houstoun. Arrived at Valparaiso from England 12 November 1852 and at Esquimalt early in 1853, remaining on the Pacific station until 1856....”
Portsmouth has enough historical ships. Keep the historic HMS HMS Trincomalee in Hartlepool. How many other reasons are there for anyone to visit Hartlepool, anyway? Just kidding! I am sure that all Hartlepoolians are VERY nice people!
@@jackpreston4283 You have clearly never served in the Royal Navy. If you referred to a ship's guns as a 'cannons' the gunnery officer would have chastised you. Not dumb - just more knowledgeable and experienced than you.
@@reality-cheque i dont think you served in the navy at the time this boat was in service there clearly cannons also have you ever actually been on this boat because i have and the tour guide even called them cannons
@@jackpreston4283 The Royal Navy always called them guns...never cannons: A 21 gun frigate The gun deck The gunnery officer The gun crew The gun team The master gunner The gunner's mate Fire as your guns bear Lie the guns Run out the guns Gun carriage Gun ports Gunsmoke, Gunshot, Gunpowder.... Your tour guide was clearly never in the Navy - but that's OK - he and you can call them 'cannons' if you want. I just thought you might like to know the correct Naval term for the ship's armament.
Even with armour, WW1 battleships fighting each other with hammers ( W.Churchill). No armour in 1815. But the heavy gun armament of the Tricomalee and it's fragility shows the age of fighting sale was over, the ferocity of Nelson and Villeneuve's ruthless tactics, meant it was an obsolete form of warfare, just as too much wing , wide tyres and turbocharging ended real grand Prix in 1985. HMS Blake and HMS Hermes were the RNs last armoured warships, with particularly the magazine, armoured. The Daring destroyers of the 1950s were the last RN warships to have key machinery, steering and electronic control boxes armoured. By the 1950s weight and the erosion of armour strength from the environmental effect of even the first nuclear tests meant, the RN no longer used armour. But till the end of the cold war even Knox and FFg-7 had Kelvar armour. In the RN T22/42 were the last actual warships with subdivision and compartmalisation. Since 1989 the RN has only built yachts.
Small technical point - sailors disliked teak planked ships, because teak is slightly toxic, and splinters usually turned septic. True of some other timbers, including elm, of course, and sawyers knew this. I expect sailors did too.
She may be the oldest British warship afloat but she is no longer in commission. The oldest in commission (but not afloat) is HMS Victory. The oldest existing British warship (although a King’s Ship, predating the establishment of the Royal Navy) is probably Mary Rose (although the unrecoveredGrace Dieu wreck is older.) The oldest warship afloat is the still-commissioned USS Constitution.
Just a guess, but, could it be because of the ship style and technology at use (while incorporating advances, such as in gunnery, was born out of the Nelson Era?
The first Leda Class Frigate was built in 1805, the design was taken from the French ship Hebe captured in 1772, so definitely Nelson Period. A second Leda Class is at Dundee HMS Unicorn.
A human voice is always nice on the ears these days. Unfortunately this time we get something new- ROBO SEAGULLS! LOL Seriously though thanks for the vid!
She was, at the end of her fighting life, the first and one only sailing vessel who started the modern global war, bringing the british flag along the coasts of Alaska, during the Crimean war, in the fifties of the nineteen century.
Foudroyant? Wasn't the vesssel captured from the French and re-named Foudroyant? Seems to be some missing details in this article? or am I incorrect? Would like to hear the true facts. The ship was mored off of Gosport for many year, I attanded a Christmas party on it in 1964, as a 9 year old. My uncle was a shipweight, working full time on the ship at the time. The original cast anchor, sits outside of Gosport town hall, as a reminder of the great history and links with Gosport. We were all saddened in Gosport, when the Foudrotant failed to return home after it's refit in Hartlepool, it was a sad day for all of those that had links with the vessel, Gordon
The narrator has the facts wrong. He says HMS Trincomalee is the oldest warship still afloat. WRONG! She isn't the oldest floating warship. She was built in 1816. At the time of her construction, USS Constitution, an American frigate was already 19 years old and HMS Victory, a British ship of the line was 57. Both USS Constitution and I do believe HMS Victory are afloat. USS Constitution is also still a commissioned warship in the US navy, is completely kept up and can still go to sea under her own sail.
I remember as a kid sailing past her on a Portsmouth harbour tour boat, all the kids yelling "let us off we're prisoners!' (I wonder what the ship is on the left at 3:08?). Then on holiday in Canada, seeing a map of Vancouver Island, there's a Trinconmali inlet, possibly named after her as she did patrol that area?
If it was 1969 I may well have been one of those Pompey Kids. But now I I teach powerboating and drive boats past the old mooring on a very regular basis. The harbour still looks gorgeous if far fewer naval ships berthed alongside today.
@@PhilbyFavourites early 80's! I went a couple of summers ago, my ultimate favourite day out as a kid and I took my own kids round...painful and they didn't appreciate the museums but Mary Rose went down a treat...and the harbour tour was great as always.
Might have been the old HMS Conway, which became a cadet training ship, sorry don't know the full story of this. Try via HMS Eaglet, RNR & RMR base (Combined services), shore establishment, Liverpool, S.Docks (re-located from Princes Dock sometime after 1988), I'm sure you will find all your answers there.
the center or main mast says old boring voice was manned by the ships elite! the other two namely the fore and mizzen masts were manned by any old scallywag that could be forced up them? Yeah right - well that's what it sounds like! As for the "lightweight" Carronades. Pity the spoken word lets down a brilliant reconstruction of the Frigate!
As far as I remember, Admiral Lord Nelson was killed in 1805 at the battle of Trafalgar by a sharpshooter from Bucetaure a French 80 gun 2nd rate. Trincomalee wasn't even laid down for another decade! Hardly a "Nelson era ship"! So many errors in this, it's astonishing.
@Alexander Challis. Thanks uploading adding documentary proof! I was being somewhat tongue in cheek. I know our great Naval history reasonably well and will be saluting the immortal memory on 21st Oct as I do every year. On another note, thanks for providing this link, I'm now going to spend HOURS reading this fantastic periodical! (My wife will hate you! Hee hee)
They are indeed carronades, but 'cannonades' did exist. Cannonades were intermediate in form between long guns and carronades. They were much used by the East India Company, who had need of lighter guns that did not need large crews, but that could throw a ball further than a carronade. The cannonade, like many compromise weapons was not particularly successful. It did, however, pave the way for later warship armament, where the guns on a warship became uniform; the upper decks having shorter-barelled and therefore lighter cannon than the lower decks though of the same ball size. Previously, the upper decks had smaller calibre guns or carronades. For example HMS Victory in 1805 had 32-pounder guns on her lower deck, 24-pounders middle gun deck and 12-pounders on her upper gun deck (and 2x68-pounder carronades on her forecastle). The 120gun three decker of the Early Victorian navy had 32-pounder guns on all decks.
Iain Botham: Fair reply. I spent some very happy schooldays on here as a Portsmouth schoolboy in the 1960’s. And now I teach people to drive powerboats and regularly drive past the spot where she was moored. It’s probably the only reason I will ever visit Hartlepool. The other day it was 27° down here, wonderful to be on the water. Can you make sure it’s warm “oop north” when I visit 🤓🤓
The US Frigate Constitution, 44 guns, is the oldest warship in sailing condition. She is still a Naval Vessel... Built in the 1780's, now resides at the Boston Navy yard, Massachusetts where she was built... Her gun deck guns are 24 pounders, her spar deck carronades are 32 pounders... She threw twice the weight of metal of any English frigate... and matched many of England's ships of the line... The Frigate President had 44 pounders.
Did you know that, after our engagement with HMS Java, our crew learned that the British Admiralty had changed their tactics by ordering their ships not to face an American 44-gun frigate one-on-one? The British were ordered that they must be with another ship to engage a frigate like Constitution. On February 20, 1815, Constituion was sailing in the mid-Atlantic and began a battle with HMS Cyane, a sloop of war, and HMS Levant, a frigate. In an exceptional battle, our crew took both ships as prizes. Now, our crew is celebrating the 203rd anniversary of this historic victory on February 20, 2018 beginning at 10am. We will be performing gun drills and pike drills as well as holding a ceremony to honor the brave men who fought this battle. We hope to see you there!
@ScreechingBlueHairFeminist- Not quite correct, Sir. The USS Chesapeake was not quite as big as the superfrigates, but very capable. Good timber, too. Its still the fabric of the mill at Wickham. The strategy of the superfrigates was replicated in the Deutschland Clasd pocketbattleships. The armament to sink any vessel that could catch them and the speed to outrun any vessel that could sink them. For both navies that attempted this, the results were mixed. The President got caught, as did the Graf Spee.
Well, no. HMS Endymion, built in the 1790s - defeated USS President, had 24-pounder long guns. She was smaller, at 1250tons, than the American 44s at 1500tons, but fired far more than half their weight of metal. The British built two spar-decked frigates, Leander and Newcastle in reply to the American 44s, at 1500tons they had an essentially identical firepower. Three rasee frigates were created (Majestic, Saturn and 1 other), by cutting down 74gun ships of the line to make 'super-super frigates' these had 32-pounder long guns and 42-pounder carronades, they far outclassed the American 44s in weight of metal.
The Trincomalee is not, as stated here, the "worlds oldest floating warship". It may be the oldest British floating warship, but the honor of being the worlds oldest floating warship, and one that is sailed out into Boston Harbor each year, belongs to the USS Constitution, launched in 1797, another Nelson era warship that battled British frigates in the War of 1812, and was never defeated.
@Mf1984 Any ship which remains in service over many years, more especially wooden ships, needs to have maintenance done on them. For a wooden ship that means replacing wood which has become rotten. Yes, it is true that much of the timber of the Constitution has been replaced over the years, but its lines, tonnage, and rig are the same as they originally were according to her builder's drawings. In fact, modifications done to her in the later 1800s when she was still in service have been reversed to restore her to her original state. The Constitution IS the same ship. It has remained on the Navy List over her entire life. As for the Trincomalee, I am sure she has also undergone repairs and replacement of her timbers many times during her life. Your argument proves you do not know much about wooden ships, their maintenance, or their histories. If you wish to educate yourself on this subject, I suggest you read the books Nelson's Navy by Brian Lavery and The American Sailing Navy by Howard I. Chapelle, especially pages 468-469 where Chapelle discusses, and thoroughly refutes, the claims of some that the U.S.S. Constellation is the oldest American ship still afloat. In her "rebuilding" her lines, her tonnage, and even her class were changed, since the term "rebuilding" was a fiction used by the U.S. Navy at the time to get money for a new ship by saying they were actually "rebuilding" an old, worn out ship. This is NOT the case with the Constitution, which, while repaired and restored several times over her life, has retained her lines, tonnage, and class.
Never defeated because she never faced a ship equal in armament, scantling or crew number nor did she (or her sister ships) do anything to curtail the economic blockade the Royal Navy had on the eastern US seaboard. The only real acid test for frigates in that pointless war (née skirmish) came with the Shannon/Chesapeake affair just off Boston. Your original point was obviously valid but your little gloat at the end deserved a retort.
@Mf1984 Uh? I wasn't talking about Victory squire. Victory speaks for itself; its the oldest commissioned warship in the world, fought in several epic naval battles and faced off against ships like the Santisima Trinidad and the like. There is no competition for her in terms of reverence and honour floating or not.
Foudroyant is pronounced:- “FOO-droyont”. It’s a French word, and implies ‘lightning strike’ or ‘fury’. A German word could be ‘blitz’. British ships with similar names, were: ‘Furious’, ‘Thunderer’, ‘Resolution’. They all sounded jolly cross. Rather a paradoxical juxtaposition. Jolly and Cross are opposites in their senses.
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This grand old ship is in my home town. All guns are plastic replicas to eleviate the weight on the decks. Been on her twice and both times found it fascinating.
My Living History group, “Ships Company 1800” visited HMS Trincomalee” when she was moored in Portsmouth in 1985. She is a fine vessel!!!🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
beautiful old girl and nice info, thanks for posting
Fantastic video.
The HMS unicorn in Dundee is a similar age and is still afloat.
We even have press gangs looking for prospective crew. Watch out.
H.M.S. Unicorn was built at the Chatham dockyard in England and launched in 1824, she was never actually fitted with masts as by the time she was launched she was no longer required as part of the fleet so became part of what was effectively the Royal Navy Reserve force of the day, in the 1850’s she was used as a “Powder Hulk” storing gunpowder in the Medway, in the 1870’s she was towed to Dundee.
That’s £5 million quid well spent on saving the history of the nation for the education of future generations:
“If we want to know where we are going we need to know where we have come from.”
The Leda Class frigates all carried twenty-eight 18-pound cannon on their gun-decks, not thirty-two of them, as is erroneously stated here. The upper-deck chase guns were long 9-pounders, not 18-pounders, and the Carronade "smashers" were 32-pounders, not 12-pounders.
😵💫 details!
Amazing restoration, recreation.
Narration accuracy in videos like this is very important. Bear in mind that the armament fitted would have varied considerably over time though.
As a member of the Nautical Training Corps, ( TS Zealous) I stayed on the Foudroyant around 1957 . Had a great time and learnt how difficult it was to rig and get into a hammock. Great memories. Thanks for the video
Tony Wells likewise. Not too sure about the date but must have been latter half of the 50s
Can you still remember how to tie a “marlin hitch” when you had to pack away the hammocks?
That’s a skill has stayed with me for 50 years and I still think of The Foudroyant with a smile when I tie anything up using that knot.
Yep I did too. Two years 1957 and 58. I remember being allocated with a crew of six to row over to Gosport and pick up provisions milk etc. Great days, sadly tying knots has long receded in my memory I'm afraid.
Wow, I remember two, week long summer holidays spent on board, it was the best. Sailing to the isle of Wight (in wooden hulled boats), small sailing dingies and us standing out on deck in our PJ's in the middle of the night because we wouldn't settle down to sleep. ;) Sleeping in the Hammocks was SO cool, the gentle rocking of the boat or more when the weather wasn't so friendly! I'm so pleased to see she's still afloat and restored for other generations to enjoy.
lefrog87 did the same never forgot it...
Me too. It would have been the mid 70's.
Ditto
We must all be Pompey school kids then?
Copnor Road Junior School, must have been the Summer of ‘69 - and no Bryan Adam’s on the radio... but there was Zager and Evans “In the year 2525” number 1 in that summer... How worryingly prescient is that!
I spent a week on board in the early 70s. Use and another school from London. Remember the trip over to Isle of Wight. Could never stow my hammock right.
Beautiful frigate and I'm glad she is still afloat but and this is a big BUT, she is not the oldest frigate/warship afloat; that honor belongs to the USS CONSTITUTION, which was launched in 1797 and remains commissioned to this day. This takes nothing away from this beautiful Leda class frigate and I hope to see her in person myself someday.
But not the oldest commissioned warship; that honour belongs to HMS Victory, a 1st rate ship of the line.
HMS Victory launched 1765
Oldest proper “British”……..
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@@tonyromano6220 Each of the ships mentioned holds there own unique distinctions, all worth noting, and there is nothing wrong at all with each Nation having pride in their ships and those sailors and Marines that served on those ships.
My brother and I spent two weeks on that in 1963 or so. Fascinating
Brilliant ship and museum really enjoyed my visit couple years ago lots in that part of County Durham Beamish, Raby Castle and Bowes Museum in Barnard Castle
Wow. I'm going to look at this when the hinges are a bit back to normal. Thanks for bringing it to my attention..
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Well done, I have been reading a great deal of fiction regards The Royal Navy in Nelsons time... I have actually visited this ship... (I don't actualy live that far away from it). I found this video very informative.... a joy to watch..
Very cool I'm glad ya'll decided to maintain a Napoleonic frigate for posterity.
I viewed this ship when a hulk, the done to her is truly brilliant, thank you for this video, well done all 👍🇬🇧
I can remember her moored on the Gosport side of Portsmouth Harbour in the 1960's. I was in the royal Navy in those days.
When she was the "Foudroyant"
I was a bootneck.
@@wardogs489 Yes She was in those days.
I remember her as the Boys Training ship in Portsmouth. We used to regularly go past her in the RMs Motorboat, when collecting stores from Priddys Hard. I was on the Vanguard then, and I remember the Sheds built on her upper deck as accommodation. Hartlepool have done an excellent job on her, and she is well worth a visit.
I remember many happy summers spent on board this ship, when she was known as TS Foudroyant, as Dad was employed as a sailing instructor with her for quite a few years. I can still smell the teak, tar and salt that pervaded below decks and getting in the hammocks was an art, but oh! so comfortable for sleeping.
I wonder if I knew him. I was an instructor for a month in Spring 1978, when she was at Gosport of course. All the permanent staff were ex-RN.
I was on Foudroyant for a week's training two years running, would have been 1956/57. Great training, sailing to the Isle of Wight in the ships walers. Must pay her a visit on my next trip to Scotland.
She is not typical of a British Frigate of that time
She's very heavy (teak) and those cannon are uncommonly large.
She's actually more like a US "frigate" (they were cut down fifties) as there was a trend for bigger heavier ships as the war wore on.
It's that teak build that saved her for posterity, it servived where traditional would have rotted.
Which US frigates are you talking about? If you mean the Humphreys frigates they were not cut-down fifties. All six were built as designed, 44- and 38-gun frigates.
If only we'd had 'live oak'.
@@americanmade6996 But were significantly more heavily armed, manned and the scantlings dwarfed those of any regular 5th rates. Even the Chesapeake that was defeated by Shannon in the only 'equal' duel of the War of 1812 was a bigger ship. They were essentially castrated 4th rates.
@@doug6500 True, although I disagree with the characterization “castrated 4th rates”. Unlike true 4th rates the Humphreys were never intended for the line of battle and were not designed with a 4th rate's battery in mind. I’m not even sure Humphreys or the USN paid any attention to the British system of rates. If anything their operational concept-especially the first three-adumbrated Jackie Fisher’s battlecruisers, a hundred years in the future.
I think you'll find that the oldest floating wooden warship is the USS Constitution which when she battled and ultimately sank the HMS Java ironically destroyed the cannon being transported to India to arm HMS Trimocalee
The HMS Trimocalee's sister ship, the HMS Shannon, would call out and then defeat in detail the USS Chesapeake in front of a baying crowd just outside Boston harbour.
Kevin, what a beautiful production, thanks. I was back on the decks last week, forty years after spending a week on board with a school trip. It was an extraordinary experience and I was so moved to be back on the ship again. Your video is another great reminder.
As a ship of the Royal Navy. She would not have had a “Crew”. She would have had a “Ships Company”:.😊
Indeed !! Even today they are called ships company .
I believe the narrator would do well to read all of the C.S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels.
He would obtain a very good education in British Naval terminology.
I Highly recommend taking a tour if you are in the North East. Great day looking around.
Steven Duffy has it right on the gun sizes for this class ... Nice ship !! Fairly fast for that era, possibly 12 to 13 knots in a blow ! Brits built some very good warships even though they copied hull forms from the French. Wish the commentator was a little more enthusiastic !
I believe 'carronade' not cannonade is correct
The narrator refers to the smaller guns on the quarter deck as 'cannonades'. That is wrong, they are 'carronades' named after their manufacturer the Carron Iron Company of Falkirk, Scotland.
Oddly he refers to 18lb guns and 12lb carronades* on the quarterdeck... while I'd have expected 9lb guns and 32lb carronades on the F'csle and quarterdeck... and 18lb guns on the main battery "as built"
*though as you note he misnames this type of weapon as well.
The company now exists as Carron Phoenix and they make bathroom sinks at the same location Carrion Works in Falkirk
-Thanks for that information !
@@coolrunnings1021 you’ve worn well after your death in 1805 sir. How is the domestic bathroom fitting progressing?
The reason that Trincomalee (and Edwin Fox in New Zealand) remain is that they were built to far higher specs than standards in Britain, by Indian shipwrights, those standards originating from Parsi traditions.
They used to say , the barkey was pitching into the swell like leda's swan.
Not the oldest floating warship, the USS Constitution is 20 years older, still commissioned, and cruises the harbor once a year, to turn her around so she weathers evenly.
Of course the oldest commissioned warship is HMS Victory ✌
Mark Brown True, but not afloat.
@@ejd53 Still the oldest though and ACTUALLY punched at her weight and above in several epic naval battles. Also, Trincomalee will invariably be the oldest still afloat when the other goes into dry dock. Victory, however, remains the oldest commissioned warship. End of. Full stop. Period. The whole 'afloat' thing is a desperate attempt to try and steal the limelight from a ship of far greater maritime significance and reverence. What are they gonna do... sail out and take on a Type 23?
A miracle she survived.
Wonderful video. Thanks a lot. I've never heard of this ship. What a beauty.
If you haven't seen it I would recommend it is a gorgeous ship with good stuff in and around the dock
The short range armament are called " Carronades " not cannonades.
A cannonade is a period of continuous heavy gunfire.
Artistic ship and the great!!
We have a "Trincamlee Channel "off southeastern Vancouver Island in British Columbia, Canada! CHEERS!
Thank you so much and my compliments for this wonderful and very interessted and well done film. 🙂👍
Dude there’s no way that can be the oldest warship afloat considering that the uss constitution was laid down 1797 and fighting in the war of 1812. Also she still retains her commission as well.
This unfortunately might occasionally be correct. The'Oldest warship afloat' must be in water - I had this 'conversation' on board the USS Constitution, in Boston harbour - when I informed the 'tour guide' that his claim (in February 1992), was not correct, as it was in drydock undergoing a three year refit - and HMS Victory which was in water at that time, predated the US vessel by 'many years' (Poor chap did not even know where the 'Spar Lash' was on the vessel either, and to boot he had a button missing from his period 'uniform'. Unfortunately he swore when he noticed it 'SH*T' - to which I informed him that would be twelve lashes for cursing in front of an officer. Had to depart the tour early at that point as we were on a time limit - The Bull & Finch Bar - as in 'Cheers' was open downtown - and calling).
@@williamanderson5437 so do you only count the time from the last drydocking? I don't think so. Your claim is based on legalistic hair splitting. The USS Constitution is older.
Even so, HMS Trincomalee has spent more time sailing in one or more form of service (in or out of the Royal Navy) for a longer period of time that the USS Constitution.
By the way, when WAS the Trincomalee last in drydock? There's work to maintain her hull that can only be done in a drydock, which is why when you were talking to that sailor Old Ironsides was in drydock, and has been since 1992 for just that reason.
... thanks for sharing
Brilliant heritage, to hold.🪔
No British-built warship was ever an exact copy of a French capture. The contemporary phrase was, 'taken from the lines of...', meaning that the hull shape, essentially the underwater hull shape, was copied. British ships were of far more robust build quality than French ships, fastenings were stronger and the distance between the major structural elements of the hull skeleton was less. This is reflected in the cost of keeping French captures seaworthy, compared to British-built ships. French ships in Royal Navy service required more frequent and more extensive dockyard repair and maintenance time than their British-built equivalents and were often given additional structural strengthening. The only exact copy built by the British in this period was of the captured American 44-gun frigate USS President, and American build quality was much more robust than that of the French.
Excellent ! Really enjoyed that as I tuck into a full English breakfast !
Very fascinating. I sail the trincomalee in the game Naval Action. she is an extremely capable warship, able to contend with ships larger than her.
Great film. The errors have been mentioned elsewhere. But I do wish they'd chosen a narrator who could pronounce the words properly. He sounds rather tearful and melancholic - like eeyore talking to Winnie the poo and piglet.
Great ship. I crawled into the powder magazine when I visited
I remember her as fordroyant, was in Portsmouth untill the 1980s.
I slept a night in it in 82
@@stephenchappell7512
I was in Gibraltar in 1982. Happy days mostly
We Yanks lost a frigate to one of the Leda class ships. That ship was HMS Shannon, rated as a 38 gun frigate if I remember correctly. She and her company under Sir Philip Broke fought and captured the USS Chesapeake, also a 38 gun frigate under Captain James Lawrence.
@Alexander Challis Thank you sir. I can appreciate the effort Captain Broke and his company put into making HMS Shannon a well oiled fighting unit. Preparation for the fight with Chesapeake actually began shortly after Captain Broke first assumed command of Shannon years earlier, even today it takes time and effort to weld anywhere from 2 to several thousand individuals into a functioning warship crew. Their victory was well earned.
USN retired enlisted here, destroyer and assault ship sailor (prefer destroyers.)
@@robertf3479 Honestly, aside from having a decent complement, the reason Shannon was able to defeat Chesapeake was because for once an American (heavy) frigate did not COMPLETELY dwarf that of its (light/regular) British opponent. Chesapeake had 60 more crew and her scantlings were a bit larger, but the armament was pretty much the same.
It was the only fair frigate duel of the war.
@@doug6500 To be perfectly honest, Captain Lawrence was a fool to challenge the Shannon. He had taken command of Chesapeake only a short time earlier and his crew was not well trained, many of them having joined the ship only a short time before and had not had the opportunity to train at sea.
Captain Sir Phillip Broke was well known to most USN officers by reputation. Under these same conditions (new Captain and untrained crew,) HMS Shannon under Broke could have successfully fought any of the USN 44 gun ships and won handily. Not trying to take anything away from Captain Broke and Shannon's crew, they were prepared, they did it right and it showed.
HMS Victory oldest commissioned warship as it still flies the White Ensign, now the ship of Flag Officer Portsmouth.
True, but she's in drydock.
Constitution is the oldest afloat
Actually Second Sea Lords Flagship.
Well done!
turn the sound off, you will enjoy it more
The initial title claims this is the oldest warship still afloat. It isn't. The USS Constitution, in Boston Harbor, was launched in 1797 and remains afloat. Several year ago it was even taken out into the harbor and sailed under her own power.
Actually, she does that annually in her turn-around!
What an excellent museum. Once our house arrest is over, I will visit.
I remember many years back seeing a mastless hulk moored in the river Fal. . Iam sure it had gun ports but memory can play tricks. Maybe somebody can throw some light on that.
French shipbuilding and designing, truly masterful! No wonder the Royal Navy used to launch entire series of ships based on captured French or Spanish ships and British officers only wished to get command of one of those, when British ship designing and building was so backwards.
2 months and no bites yet? Back to the jeune ecole for you!
Ooh, a new word; "undoubtably"!
never knew this ship existed
Thank you for the vid!!
Trincomali Channel in British Columbia is named after this ship - "Named in 1858 by Captain Richards, after HMS Trincomalee, sailing frigate/24 guns, Captain Wallace Houstoun. Arrived at Valparaiso from England 12 November 1852 and at Esquimalt early in 1853, remaining on the Pacific station until 1856....”
Portsmouth has enough historical ships. Keep the historic HMS HMS Trincomalee in Hartlepool. How many other reasons are there for anyone to visit Hartlepool, anyway? Just kidding! I am sure that all Hartlepoolians are VERY nice people!
Monkeyhangers!!!!!
Not Hartlepoolians but Poolies.
Royal Navy ships don’t have cannon, they have guns. 😊
Are you dumb
@@jackpreston4283 You have clearly never served in the Royal Navy. If you referred to a ship's guns as a 'cannons' the gunnery officer would have chastised you.
Not dumb - just more knowledgeable and experienced than you.
@@reality-cheque i dont think you served in the navy at the time this boat was in service there clearly cannons also have you ever actually been on this boat because i have and the tour guide even called them cannons
@@jackpreston4283 The Royal Navy always called them guns...never cannons:
A 21 gun frigate
The gun deck
The gunnery officer
The gun crew
The gun team
The master gunner
The gunner's mate
Fire as your guns bear
Lie the guns
Run out the guns
Gun carriage
Gun ports
Gunsmoke, Gunshot, Gunpowder....
Your tour guide was clearly never in the Navy - but that's OK - he and you can call them 'cannons' if you want. I just thought you might like to know the correct Naval term for the ship's armament.
@@reality-cheque i understand now thank you
Even with armour, WW1 battleships fighting each other with hammers ( W.Churchill). No armour in 1815. But the heavy gun armament of the Tricomalee and it's fragility shows the age of fighting sale was over, the ferocity of Nelson and Villeneuve's ruthless tactics, meant it was an obsolete form of warfare, just as too much wing , wide tyres and turbocharging ended real grand Prix in 1985. HMS Blake and HMS Hermes were the RNs last armoured warships, with particularly the magazine, armoured. The Daring destroyers of the 1950s were the last RN warships to have key machinery, steering and electronic control boxes armoured. By the 1950s weight and the erosion of armour strength from the environmental effect of even the first nuclear tests meant, the RN no longer used armour. But till the end of the cold war even Knox and FFg-7 had Kelvar armour. In the RN T22/42 were the last actual warships with subdivision and compartmalisation. Since 1989 the RN has only built yachts.
Small technical point - sailors disliked teak planked ships, because teak is slightly toxic, and splinters usually turned septic. True of some other timbers, including elm, of course, and sawyers knew this. I expect sailors did too.
She may be the oldest British warship afloat but she is no longer in commission. The oldest in commission (but not afloat) is HMS Victory. The oldest existing British warship (although a King’s Ship, predating the establishment of the Royal Navy) is probably Mary Rose (although the unrecoveredGrace Dieu wreck is older.) The oldest warship afloat is the still-commissioned USS Constitution.
Nelson had been dead 11 years before this ship was built
A brilliant video thank you for sharing this:)
How is this a Nelson era frigate? Nelson was killed in 1805 and this ship wasn't commissioned until 10 years later.
Just a guess, but, could it be because of the ship style and technology at use (while incorporating advances, such as in gunnery, was born out of the Nelson Era?
The first Leda Class Frigate was built in 1805, the design was taken from the French ship Hebe captured in 1772, so definitely Nelson Period. A second Leda Class is at Dundee HMS Unicorn.
And the most famous Leda was SHANNON.
A human voice is always nice on the ears these days. Unfortunately this time we get something new- ROBO SEAGULLS! LOL Seriously though thanks for the vid!
8:55 is that Frodo sleeping in the hammock?
This was a hard ship.
I would love to visit, unfortunately due to covid and old age it ain't going to happen, Rule Britannia ,,,
Could the narrative be MORE soporific..??!!
She was, at the end of her fighting life, the first and one only sailing vessel who started the modern global war, bringing the british flag along the coasts of Alaska, during the Crimean war, in the fifties of the nineteen century.
Mr. Aldler, they should have known that!!!
Foudroyant? Wasn't the vesssel captured from the French and re-named Foudroyant? Seems to be some missing details in this article? or am I incorrect? Would like to hear the true facts. The ship was mored off of Gosport for many year, I attanded a Christmas party on it in 1964, as a 9 year old. My uncle was a shipweight, working full time on the ship at the time. The original cast anchor, sits outside of Gosport town hall, as a reminder of the great history and links with Gosport. We were all saddened in Gosport, when the Foudrotant failed to return home after it's refit in Hartlepool, it was a sad day for all of those that had links with the vessel, Gordon
Trincomalee is a port of Sri Lanka (Ceylon)
Had the ship ever been engaged in combat?
The narrator has the facts wrong. He says HMS Trincomalee is the oldest warship still afloat. WRONG! She isn't the oldest floating warship. She was built in 1816. At the time of her construction, USS Constitution, an American frigate was already 19 years old and HMS Victory, a British ship of the line was 57. Both USS Constitution and I do believe HMS Victory are afloat. USS Constitution is also still a commissioned warship in the US navy, is completely kept up and can still go to sea under her own sail.
I remember as a kid sailing past her on a Portsmouth harbour tour boat, all the kids yelling "let us off we're prisoners!' (I wonder what the ship is on the left at 3:08?). Then on holiday in Canada, seeing a map of Vancouver Island, there's a Trinconmali inlet, possibly named after her as she did patrol that area?
If it was 1969 I may well have been one of those Pompey Kids.
But now I I teach powerboating and drive boats past the old mooring on a very regular basis. The harbour still looks gorgeous if far fewer naval ships berthed alongside today.
@@PhilbyFavourites early 80's! I went a couple of summers ago, my ultimate favourite day out as a kid and I took my own kids round...painful and they didn't appreciate the museums but Mary Rose went down a treat...and the harbour tour was great as always.
Cannonades? That is a carronade!
Yep, first produced by the Carron Company in Falkirk, Scotland.
Was she named after the Trincomalee Naval Base, British Ceylon?
Minor pronunciation point the ship was called HMS Foudroyant, a French word meaning suddenly and with force not Ford (as in the motor company) royant.
Correct.
I had never heard of the "all off" deck! Was this term common? Was this the best narrator they could find? Good information though!
orlop deck
I recently made the same point. Dismal.
I remember a 'wooden wall' man of war in Liverpool docks back in the 60's, anyone know who she was and how old?
Might have been the old HMS Conway, which became a cadet training ship, sorry don't know the full story of this. Try via HMS Eaglet, RNR & RMR base (Combined services), shore establishment, Liverpool, S.Docks (re-located from Princes Dock sometime after 1988), I'm sure you will find all your answers there.
Hands up if you’ve attended a wedding ceremony on there? 🙋🏻♂️
Is she afloat or in dry dock
Launched in the year Victoria was born?
Why they didnt save the implacable ???
the center or main mast says old boring voice was manned by the ships elite! the other two namely the fore and mizzen masts were manned by any old scallywag that could be forced up them? Yeah right - well that's what it sounds like! As for the "lightweight" Carronades. Pity the spoken word lets down a brilliant reconstruction of the Frigate!
Built in Bombay from teak wood .The canons are from a small to decker ship
As far as I remember, Admiral Lord Nelson was killed in 1805 at the battle of Trafalgar by a sharpshooter from Bucetaure a French 80 gun 2nd rate.
Trincomalee wasn't even laid down for another decade! Hardly a "Nelson era ship"! So many errors in this, it's astonishing.
@Alexander Challis. Thanks uploading adding documentary proof! I was being somewhat tongue in cheek. I know our great Naval history reasonably well and will be saluting the immortal memory on 21st Oct as I do every year.
On another note, thanks for providing this link, I'm now going to spend HOURS reading this fantastic periodical! (My wife will hate you! Hee hee)
Order 1812, yet somehow "Nelson Era" I don't think so
Yeah, he should take down the video and apologise to you.
This is not the oldest ship of float. that title belongs to the USS Constitution built in 1797 sorry. You're wrong
The narrator should pop an anti depressant before he speaks.
They are indeed carronades, but 'cannonades' did exist. Cannonades were intermediate in form between long guns and carronades. They were much used by the East India Company, who had need of lighter guns that did not need large crews, but that could throw a ball further than a carronade. The cannonade, like many compromise weapons was not particularly successful. It did, however, pave the way for later warship armament, where the guns on a warship became uniform; the upper decks having shorter-barelled and therefore lighter cannon than the lower decks though of the same ball size. Previously, the upper decks had smaller calibre guns or carronades. For example HMS Victory in 1805 had 32-pounder guns on her lower deck, 24-pounders middle gun deck and 12-pounders on her upper gun deck (and 2x68-pounder carronades on her forecastle). The 120gun three decker of the Early Victorian navy had 32-pounder guns on all decks.
Made of Teak ! What regional accent does the narrator have, please? Thanks so much for the interesting narration.
FRAGIORGIO1 yes true the officers quarters are like day they were made in perfect teak
That accent is called 'Dreary'.
there be a comment below about wishing the commentator had more enthusiasm, might be better if he knew something about the job!
lmfao that's exactly what I was thinking.
Such a shame Portsmouth did not pay to have the ship back in Portsmouth . Instead they chose to have the Spinnaker tower .
Iain Botham: Fair reply. I spent some very happy schooldays on here as a Portsmouth schoolboy in the 1960’s. And now I teach people to drive powerboats and regularly drive past the spot where she was moored.
It’s probably the only reason I will ever visit Hartlepool. The other day it was 27° down here, wonderful to be on the water. Can you make sure it’s warm “oop north” when I visit 🤓🤓
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HMS Teakcomalee
The US Frigate Constitution, 44 guns, is the oldest warship in sailing condition. She is still a Naval Vessel... Built in the 1780's, now resides at the Boston Navy yard, Massachusetts
where she was built... Her gun deck guns are 24 pounders, her spar deck carronades are 32 pounders... She threw twice the weight of metal of any English frigate... and matched many of England's ships of the line... The Frigate President had 44 pounders.
Not that she'd last long against the HMS Victory, which is the oldest commissioned warship in the world floating or not.
Did you know that, after our engagement with HMS Java, our crew learned that the British Admiralty had changed their tactics by ordering their ships not to face an American 44-gun frigate one-on-one? The British were ordered that they must be with another ship to engage a frigate like Constitution.
On February 20, 1815, Constituion was sailing in the mid-Atlantic and began a battle with HMS Cyane, a sloop of war, and HMS Levant, a frigate. In an exceptional battle, our crew took both ships as prizes.
Now, our crew is celebrating the 203rd anniversary of this historic victory on February 20, 2018 beginning at 10am. We will be performing gun drills and pike drills as well as holding a ceremony to honor the brave men who fought this battle.
We hope to see you there!
@ScreechingBlueHairFeminist- Not quite correct, Sir. The USS Chesapeake was not quite as big as the superfrigates, but very capable. Good timber, too. Its still the fabric of the mill at Wickham.
The strategy of the superfrigates was replicated in the Deutschland Clasd pocketbattleships. The armament to sink any vessel that could catch them and the speed to outrun any vessel that could sink them.
For both navies that attempted this, the results were mixed. The President got caught, as did the Graf Spee.
Well, no. HMS Endymion, built in the 1790s - defeated USS President, had 24-pounder long guns. She was smaller, at 1250tons, than the American 44s at 1500tons, but fired far more than half their weight of metal. The British built two spar-decked frigates, Leander and Newcastle in reply to the American 44s, at 1500tons they had an essentially identical firepower. Three rasee frigates were created (Majestic, Saturn and 1 other), by cutting down 74gun ships of the line to make 'super-super frigates' these had 32-pounder long guns and 42-pounder carronades, they far outclassed the American 44s in weight of metal.
@ScreechingBlueHairFeminist It wasn't.
The Trincomalee is not, as stated here, the "worlds oldest floating warship". It may be the oldest British floating warship, but the honor of being the worlds oldest floating warship, and one that is sailed out into Boston Harbor each year, belongs to the USS Constitution, launched in 1797, another Nelson era warship that battled British frigates in the War of 1812, and was never defeated.
@Mf1984 Any ship which remains in service over many years, more especially wooden ships, needs to have maintenance done on them. For a wooden ship that means replacing wood which has become rotten. Yes, it is true that much of the timber of the Constitution has been replaced over the years, but its lines, tonnage, and rig are the same as they originally were according to her builder's drawings. In fact, modifications done to her in the later 1800s when she was still in service have been reversed to restore her to her original state. The Constitution IS the same ship. It has remained on the Navy List over her entire life. As for the Trincomalee, I am sure she has also undergone repairs and replacement of her timbers many times during her life. Your argument proves you do not know much about wooden ships, their maintenance, or their histories. If you wish to educate yourself on this subject, I suggest you read the books Nelson's Navy by Brian Lavery and The American Sailing Navy by Howard I. Chapelle, especially pages 468-469 where Chapelle discusses, and thoroughly refutes, the claims of some that the U.S.S. Constellation is the oldest American ship still afloat. In her "rebuilding" her lines, her tonnage, and even her class were changed, since the term "rebuilding" was a fiction used by the U.S. Navy at the time to get money for a new ship by saying they were actually "rebuilding" an old, worn out ship. This is NOT the case with the Constitution, which, while repaired and restored several times over her life, has retained her lines, tonnage, and class.
Never defeated because she never faced a ship equal in armament, scantling or crew number nor did she (or her sister ships) do anything to curtail the economic blockade the Royal Navy had on the eastern US seaboard. The only real acid test for frigates in that pointless war (née skirmish) came with the Shannon/Chesapeake affair just off Boston. Your original point was obviously valid but your little gloat at the end deserved a retort.
@Mf1984 Uh? I wasn't talking about Victory squire. Victory speaks for itself; its the oldest commissioned warship in the world, fought in several epic naval battles and faced off against ships like the Santisima Trinidad and the like. There is no competition for her in terms of reverence and honour floating or not.
At the time of the video being made! The constitution was in dry dock for extensive repairs!! So technically the video is correct!
I was taught the pronunciation was - Trin com alee?
And you were taught right!
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Foudroyant is pronounced:- “FOO-droyont”. It’s a French word, and implies ‘lightning strike’ or ‘fury’. A German word could be ‘blitz’. British ships with similar names, were: ‘Furious’, ‘Thunderer’, ‘Resolution’. They all sounded jolly cross. Rather a paradoxical juxtaposition. Jolly and Cross are opposites in their senses.