My polygraph was not individual questions, it was “did you disclose all your information if you have ever committed a crime against a person?” We also aren’t allowed to do breathing controlled, automatic disqualification. You also can’t move at all of course. Clean slate, and failed, I didn’t lie and now I’m devastated. Went through college to get a degree too, of course, I have my personal opinions on the polygraph but I financially and emotionally feel devastated.
I feel you. I got disqualified due to controlled breathing during Poly because that’s just how I control my anxiety. The worst part is that the operator seemed to understand but I still failed.
This was the best analysis ever! I’m a nervous person just in general, and have a clean whistle record, minus one ticket. It’s just the little things I worry will affect my results. You did well explaining the concept of analytical thinking in relation to polygraphs. This makes me 80% less nervous
The most practical and encouraging I've heard. I was born nervous so I'm always worried about being poligraphed. But this truly helps, especially the aspect about breathing.
Good video. I took a polygraph last year as the last step of the process for my city’s department even though I told the truth. I was advised to breathe normal and to sit which I thought I was doing just fine. After that, I got in my head and way too nervous. Taking another polygraph in a few weeks for a new department and I’m even more nervous now.
I’m in Highschool but I’m looking to become a cop when I become of age for it! Your videos have helped me tremendously when it comes to knowing what to expect when I get there and what to do NOW to prepare. Thanks so much!
Unfortunately it is the process that is used currently. A lot of departments are begin to put more emphasis on psychological exam now over the polygraph.
It's insane that your whole career trajectory could be changed because of a step in the process that is essentially junk science. I mean serial killers pass polygraphs.
Erica Thank you for the kinds words. It's comments like yours that show us all the effort into sharing the content is worth it and helps. If you need anything we are always her to help with your process.
Be Open & Honest, Relax, Don't Agree to something the operator says just to get on their good side and Hope for the best.....you're bound to pass one at some point....I have 5 departments listed to apply to if one goes sour
1:26 i used to grab gift cards from Walmart, i was like 4 and they were colorful lmao. I was really good at it too, no one ever saw me until the cash register 🤣
@@armogantraining7164 once or twice yeah, funny thing is they don't even have a balance until the cash register loaded them with whatever balance you wanted
@@Jdalio5 he didn’t ask me that question. He did ask if I looked up polygraph videos. But that was when I just walked in and I wasn’t hooked up to machine yet.
@@armogantraining7164 back with an update. There was a sheriff parked in front of my house today asking my neighbors questions about me. So I think I passed. Thanks for the advice that breathing technique helped me relax
Honestly, i get their thoughts on polygraphs. I really do but i feel the fact that theres human error makes it redundant. I know for a fact i didnt lie and i still failed the Border patrol polygraph. I passed everything else but that. I am a bit salty because a dream of mine is on hold for two years due to the system saying i was untruthful. Which baffles me because i know i didnt lie. I wouldve accepted it if i tried to lie. I really wish something else could be used
Just did a polygraph exam for my local department but it was done through a third party business . He did a series of yes/no questions. I was truthful and honest but I still feel uneasy about the whole exam. They’ll reach out to me saying if I passed or not. I felt calm doing the polygraph but now I’m overthinking/nervous after the fact just thinking of the ways that the examiner could still fail me.
Everyone feels that way afterwards. You will hear back from your hiring officials once they get the information. Congrats on making it to this point. Looking forward to you telling me when you will be in uniform.
If i did illegal things as a minor/young adult would those things get me into legal trouble? Because i have a polygraph coming up and will not lie about what ive done in my past
This might be a stupid question, but has the polygraph machine ever counted a “yes” as a lie? Like “have you ever stolen anything?” “Yes” *lie. If so, what to do In that situation?
About ten years ago, when I was 16/17, I made a poor choice and got involved in shoplifting at a retail store while associating with the wrong crowd. The police sent me to jail, and my mother invested in an attorney. We were assured that the incident would not appear on my permanent record. Since then, I’ve relocated to another state for college and have worked diligently to turn my life around. I’m now looking to apply for a position in law enforcement, and I’m concerned that this incident, despite being a juvenile mistake and supposedly not on my record, could disqualify me. Has anyone had experience with this situation, or could you provide advice on how it might impact my application? Additionally, how can I verify that my record is clear? Lastly, if an investigator asks whether I have ever stolen anything in my life, should I mention that I was jailed for a few hours before my mom came to pick me up? Should I simply say 'yes,' or is it better to explain the whole situation, including the fact that I was locked up for a short time?
i don't care about poly test cause i don't even lie anyway so only problem i have its that my english is week now i learn poly test is lie dector thing which is dumb
I took my polygraph for the LAPD yesterday and it was pretty intense. I was being honest the entire time but was nervous throughout the whole session. I was told there was one question I wasn’t clearing and she felt like I was withholding information. I don’t know if that means I failed or if it was a tactic. I haven’t received the results yet but when she said I wasn’t clearing a question just felt extremely disappointed. I don’t know what’s going to happen.
@@alecconnor8556 it took about a week, wasn’t too long. You receive a call and they go through all the questions with you, once you’re cleared they schedule your PFQ. I’m assuming you’re beginning the process?
The examiners I've been under, got snippy if I just take a relaxation breath, or moved a little. Just answering to my name was a problem, since no one ever called me by my legal name, and my nick name went away, when I put my foot down....Strange stuff.
I have run into this issue before as well. One thing I like to tell everyone I train is, every profession has good and bad employees. This includes doctors, nurses, teachers, lawyers, and yes police and their hiring staff or third party contractors. Remain professional and as the video explains if you think they are unprofessional report them after the poly.
Will they ask counter questions? For example if I say I stole from my brother as a kid can they be like had there been a time where you stole besides from your brother?
I have a polygraph tomorrow, I have a pretty good and clean record but I'm afraid my nerves will get the best of me..any advice to keep that feeling under control for that specific scenario? Thanks for the content!
It's hard to teach you the day before because it really is a mind shift lol. But for something you can do now is breathing control for your heart rate and it helps keep you mind clear.
Yes, on my application it asked "have you ever stolen something?" Well, yeah, I remember taking a jolly rancher from a store when I was 6 and got spanked when I got home, had to go back and pay the .15 cents so I responded that I did.
Ok…what if I did steal something valuable, worth over $500, 5 years ago for example. I tell them the truth about it. Is that an automatic fail? What if you did some bad things in the past…drugs, theft, etc(no felonies). Is it even worth pursuing a career in law enforcement or do they just want to see it you tell the truth?
This will depend on how recent and how often. If you can show you have turned your life around you have a shot. But articulating your hurdles is the key to success.
I have a question what about if you done nothing like you didn't stole anything how to respond that question, also what about if you forgot to add a job in your resume you upload can you tell them before or does it matter ?
Hopefully I am understanding your question correctly, if you have never stole anything before you would just mark "NO" to that question. If it ask you or tells you, you need to explain write in N/A (Not Applicable). As for the forgetting a job on your resume that's not so much of a big deal as it is on the police questionnaire. This is why I push and guide everyone I work with to put all there attention into the preparation stage of getting hire. It is probably the most important part and makes getting hired way more likely. If you are serious about pursuing your law enforcement career watch this workshop, it's completely free. www.armoganct.com/Getting%20Started
I have mine tommorow. I liee on my written questionnaire out of habit. Like anyone would when aplyimg for a job. Questions like have you ever done drugs or smoked weed i just amswered no. Im in the firefighte4 recruitment. My question should i be honest tommorow or is it paramount that i stick to my original statment.
Shouldn't you not explain anything during a poly? I've heard explain could be considered to be a lie. I've heard that you simply answer every question with a one word answer. Yes, or no.
Hi bud , I have poly graph on in 4 days but I completely forgot to mention about police presence incident . Can I amend when I got to polygraph or they would disqualify me for amending my info sheet ?? Please let me know . Thanks
@@armogantraining7164 I have applied but the frontline is holding me back. I failed once. I do a retake on the 12th and I’m pretty nervous. I seen your video and I’ve taken practice test and I still have no clue what I’m doing
@@moneymakersism we have coaching but nothing not that I can do in two days. We have an online course that covers the NTN as all as the other exams. It could help but you once again you only have two days
Hello, I have never been in the gym before, I'm in my 30's and got recruited by a police officer, I'm going to take my test next week. My question is when I pass test, should I then start working out? It would be great to know in my workout what should I focus on, I'm physically fit, but not marathon running fit.
Mike, It comes down to what you think in your head. If you get asked the question of have you ever stole anything and your stomach drops at the thought of answering, you will show a lie on the test if you enter say no. The questionnaire before hand gives you the chance to answer with explanations. So take a look at the hypothetical: Have you ever stole anything? Yes or No Answer: UKN ------- Explanation: I once took candy from my grandmother without permission. The question however is more likely to be worded as such: As an adult have you ever stole anything of monetary value over $50? Hope this helps.
@@armogantraining7164 let’s say I admit that a year ago I drove my car while having a buzz from drinking 🍺 . But I never got caught, and made back home with no problem. It was a one time thing, and I honestly felt bad for doing it. What would happened there? Would I fail the test? Or would I fail, and get a DUI for confessing?
My polygraph was not individual questions, it was “did you disclose all your information if you have ever committed a crime against a person?” We also aren’t allowed to do breathing controlled, automatic disqualification. You also can’t move at all of course. Clean slate, and failed, I didn’t lie and now I’m devastated. Went through college to get a degree too, of course, I have my personal opinions on the polygraph but I financially and emotionally feel devastated.
You're only done if you quit apply again
I feel you. I got disqualified due to controlled breathing during Poly because that’s just how I control my anxiety. The worst part is that the operator seemed to understand but I still failed.
That's literally what happened to me, I am exactly in the position you explained.
This was the best analysis ever! I’m a nervous person just in general, and have a clean whistle record, minus one ticket. It’s just the little things I worry will affect my results. You did well explaining the concept of analytical thinking in relation to polygraphs. This makes me 80% less nervous
Glad it could help, let us know if anything else might be useful along your hiring process. Best of luck.
This is the best analyst I ever listened to
Thank you for the great feedback. If there is anything else that you think may help you or someone else please let us know.
The most practical and encouraging I've heard. I was born nervous so I'm always worried about being poligraphed. But this truly helps, especially the aspect about breathing.
Glad this helps, you will do great. Let us know if their is anything else that may help you along the process.
Good video. I took a polygraph last year as the last step of the process for my city’s department even though I told the truth. I was advised to breathe normal and to sit which I thought I was doing just fine. After that, I got in my head and way too nervous. Taking another polygraph in a few weeks for a new department and I’m even more nervous now.
Don't be nervous exam administrators have been taught to rehearse a script so they say the same to everyone.
I’m in Highschool but I’m looking to become a cop when I become of age for it! Your videos have helped me tremendously when it comes to knowing what to expect when I get there and what to do NOW to prepare. Thanks so much!
Great stay committed you got this
There is no reason for any employer to use pseudoscience in any hiring process
Unfortunately it is the process that is used currently. A lot of departments are begin to put more emphasis on psychological exam now over the polygraph.
You mean dumb old Guy .
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It's insane that your whole career trajectory could be changed because of a step in the process that is essentially junk science. I mean serial killers pass polygraphs.
To scare and flush out liars
@@armogantraining7164You can bullshit your way through that also
Just watched your video and im in the process to be a police officer my next step is my paperwork. Just wanted to say thank you for making this video!
Erica Thank you for the kinds words. It's comments like yours that show us all the effort into sharing the content is worth it and helps. If you need anything we are always her to help with your process.
@@armogantraining7164 Thank you so much, I’m nervous and excited at the same time but please keep the videos coming please and I already subscribe 😀
My palms naturally sweat like crazy when I'm nervous, they're gonna get a kick out of that. Hahaha
Let us know how it goes
Be Open & Honest, Relax, Don't Agree to something the operator says just to get on their good side and Hope for the best.....you're bound to pass one at some point....I have 5 departments listed to apply to if one goes sour
Well said!
So then you have to hope to actually pass??? Eveytime I've taken one its always been a different result......yet same great background. 🤔🤔🤔
Liked and subscribed! Taking my first polygraph ever next week and this was helpful. Thank you🤝🏻
Great we are in you corner. Let us know if there is anyway we can help.
1:26 i used to grab gift cards from Walmart, i was like 4 and they were colorful lmao. I was really good at it too, no one ever saw me until the cash register 🤣
Did you actually leave the store with them?
@@armogantraining7164 once or twice yeah, funny thing is they don't even have a balance until the cash register loaded them with whatever balance you wanted
i’ve read that honest people have failed for saying “i’ve lied to my parents” or “i’ve stolen my dad’s shirt”
No that would not lead to a failure unless it was the inverse. They said no and thought about stealing something from someone
I used the breathing technique from this video for my polygraph test a few days ago. Going to find out tomorrow if I passed. Keep you updated.
How did you do hope all went well.
@@armogantraining7164 I still haven’t heard any news yet. Tomorrow will be a week since I taken the test.
@@youngsensei105did you lie about how youve been trained to breathe
@@Jdalio5 he didn’t ask me that question. He did ask if I looked up polygraph videos. But that was when I just walked in and I wasn’t hooked up to machine yet.
@@armogantraining7164 back with an update. There was a sheriff parked in front of my house today asking my neighbors questions about me. So I think I passed. Thanks for the advice that breathing technique helped me relax
Honestly, i get their thoughts on polygraphs. I really do but i feel the fact that theres human error makes it redundant. I know for a fact i didnt lie and i still failed the Border patrol polygraph. I passed everything else but that. I am a bit salty because a dream of mine is on hold for two years due to the system saying i was untruthful. Which baffles me because i know i didnt lie. I wouldve accepted it if i tried to lie. I really wish something else could be used
Your right you can never accept for human error, unfortunately this is the process we are stuck with for now. don't give up your not done
Im in process now definitely a nervous person pray for me 😂😂😂😂
Good luck always here to help
@@armogantraining7164 I passed my polygraph next is just a sit down with a psychiatrist and a medical and drug screening
Just did a polygraph exam for my local department but it was done through a third party business . He did a series of yes/no questions.
I was truthful and honest but I still feel uneasy about the whole exam. They’ll reach out to me saying if I passed or not. I felt calm doing the polygraph but now I’m overthinking/nervous after the fact just thinking of the ways that the examiner could still fail me.
Everyone feels that way afterwards. You will hear back from your hiring officials once they get the information. Congrats on making it to this point. Looking forward to you telling me when you will be in uniform.
Armogan Training thank you. That’s the reassurance I needed to hear right now. Gonna hit the gym to get rid of the rest of the nerves now hahaha
@@briansalguero9499 nice way to focus on what you can control. You got this.
Did you pass?
So how did you do by now?
My test is tomorrow super nervous thanks for the video
Hope you did well.
If i did illegal things as a minor/young adult would those things get me into legal trouble? Because i have a polygraph coming up and will not lie about what ive done in my past
Not as long as it wasn't anything major
If I took my polygraph two weeks ago and still haven’t heard anything is that a good or bad thing ?
Usually I would say it's a good thing. I recommend following up on Monday.
Good stuff
Thank you for the kind words
This might be a stupid question, but has the polygraph machine ever counted a “yes” as a lie? Like “have you ever stolen anything?” “Yes” *lie. If so, what to do
In that situation?
all the time
@@armogantraining7164what happens if they count a yes as a lie?
About ten years ago, when I was 16/17, I made a poor choice and got involved in shoplifting at a retail store while associating with the wrong crowd. The police sent me to jail, and my mother invested in an attorney. We were assured that the incident would not appear on my permanent record. Since then, I’ve relocated to another state for college and have worked diligently to turn my life around.
I’m now looking to apply for a position in law enforcement, and I’m concerned that this incident, despite being a juvenile mistake and supposedly not on my record, could disqualify me. Has anyone had experience with this situation, or could you provide advice on how it might impact my application? Additionally, how can I verify that my record is clear?
Lastly, if an investigator asks whether I have ever stolen anything in my life, should I mention that I was jailed for a few hours before my mom came to pick me up? Should I simply say 'yes,' or is it better to explain the whole situation, including the fact that I was locked up for a short time?
Articulation is key at explaining hurdles jump on a free coaching call and we can discuss www.armoganct.com/Free-call
i don't care about poly test cause i don't even lie anyway so only problem i have its that my english is week now i learn poly test is lie dector thing which is dumb
It unfortunately is apart of the process we go through.
The most honest men have also failed polygraph tests.
I took my polygraph for the LAPD yesterday and it was pretty intense. I was being honest the entire time but was nervous throughout the whole session. I was told there was one question I wasn’t clearing and she felt like I was withholding information. I don’t know if that means I failed or if it was a tactic. I haven’t received the results yet but when she said I wasn’t clearing a question just felt extremely disappointed. I don’t know what’s going to happen.
how long did It take them to review your PHS?
@@alecconnor8556 it took about a week, wasn’t too long. You receive a call and they go through all the questions with you, once you’re cleared they schedule your PFQ. I’m assuming you’re beginning the process?
@@jonathanalvarez8606 i got the call but they never scheduled me for my PFQ. Status just shows still in progress but thanks
Sit tight and see what the results say that's all you can do now
@@armogantraining7164 I did get the results and I passed! Very happy. Still moving forward in the process.
The examiners I've been under, got snippy if I just take a relaxation breath, or moved a little. Just answering to my name was a problem, since no one ever called me by my legal name, and my nick name went away, when I put my foot down....Strange stuff.
I have run into this issue before as well. One thing I like to tell everyone I train is, every profession has good and bad employees. This includes doctors, nurses, teachers, lawyers, and yes police and their hiring staff or third party contractors. Remain professional and as the video explains if you think they are unprofessional report them after the poly.
Got ny trooper exam this week. Nervous about polygraph lol
You got this if you want more guidance jump on a free coaching call here: www.armoganct.com/Free-call
how did you do?
Will they ask counter questions? For example if I say I stole from my brother as a kid can they be like had there been a time where you stole besides from your brother?
Absolutely, they will ask it in the method, other than what you have disclosed have you ever ......!
I have a polygraph tomorrow, I have a pretty good and clean record but I'm afraid my nerves will get the best of me..any advice to keep that feeling under control for that specific scenario?
Thanks for the content!
It's hard to teach you the day before because it really is a mind shift lol. But for something you can do now is breathing control for your heart rate and it helps keep you mind clear.
Any update?
Well, don’t leave us hanging what happened?😅
What if I stole hot wheels from the dollar store when I was 12 😕
Only report it if it's required. Most questions have time and value limitations so I think your good lol. 😂
Yes, on my application it asked "have you ever stolen something?" Well, yeah, I remember taking a jolly rancher from a store when I was 6 and got spanked when I got home, had to go back and pay the .15 cents so I responded that I did.
@@DalV They did not even pay any attention to that correct?
Excellent thanks for sharing
Ok…what if I did steal something valuable, worth over $500, 5 years ago for example. I tell them the truth about it. Is that an automatic fail? What if you did some bad things in the past…drugs, theft, etc(no felonies). Is it even worth pursuing a career in law enforcement or do they just want to see it you tell the truth?
This will depend on how recent and how often. If you can show you have turned your life around you have a shot. But articulating your hurdles is the key to success.
I have a question what about if you done nothing like you didn't stole anything how to respond that question, also what about if you forgot to add a job in your resume you upload can you tell them before or does it matter ?
Hopefully I am understanding your question correctly, if you have never stole anything before you would just mark "NO" to that question. If it ask you or tells you, you need to explain write in N/A (Not Applicable). As for the forgetting a job on your resume that's not so much of a big deal as it is on the police questionnaire. This is why I push and guide everyone I work with to put all there attention into the preparation stage of getting hire. It is probably the most important part and makes getting hired way more likely. If you are serious about pursuing your law enforcement career watch this workshop, it's completely free. www.armoganct.com/Getting%20Started
Supposed you went to jail as a youth but wasn't convicted before.?😢
Great advice. 💯🫡
Thanks for the support
What advice do you have for someone who was truthful. But when asked if my name was my name. I said yes and it was deceptive?
You need to work on stress control or you had a bad examiner.
If I used/tried marijuana opioids and cocain in my teens and am now 32 will this disqualify me even if I’m honest about it
No but articulating the facts is critical with these substances.
i naturally have sweaty hands and feet no matter what i’m doing, will this have complications?
it will depend on the the examiner
I have mine tommorow. I liee on my written questionnaire out of habit. Like anyone would when aplyimg for a job. Questions like have you ever done drugs or smoked weed i just amswered no. Im in the firefighte4 recruitment. My question should i be honest tommorow or is it paramount that i stick to my original statment.
You should never lie, the lie is actually the biggest hurdle you will create.
Shouldn't you not explain anything during a poly? I've heard explain could be considered to be a lie. I've heard that you simply answer every question with a one word answer. Yes, or no.
Hi bud , I have poly graph on in 4 days but I completely forgot to mention about police presence incident . Can I amend when I got to polygraph or they would disqualify me for amending my info sheet ?? Please let me know . Thanks
Well said!
i heard if someone amend things after submitting paper work , it is automatic disqualification , is it true ?
@@user-xh9up7zz2k this depends on the department and how you articulate it.
I feel like, the simple answer is, just tell the truth?
Your not wrong
@mrodriguez151 it's less incriminating yourself and more stating an answer that disqualifies you.
But depending on your truth, you could fail, or be disqualified, because you admitted to a serious crime, or a crime serious enough to disqualify you.
I did a price swap for meat over a month ago, would that disqualify me? How would I articulate that on the questioner?
That's a tough one unfortunately you just need to own it an hope for the best. they will not be happy about it because it is so recent.
I have a Question on this. Back in the day when I was hanging with the wrong people I stole car light bulbs from Walmart. That will disqualify me?
No, as long as it was in the past and not a habitual offense.
@@armogantraining7164 thank you. It’s been like 2 years ago
@@moneymakersism No problem that is a fair enough time, you could probably start looking to apply now.
@@armogantraining7164 I have applied but the frontline is holding me back. I failed once. I do a retake on the 12th and I’m pretty nervous. I seen your video and I’ve taken practice test and I still have no clue what I’m doing
@@moneymakersism we have coaching but nothing not that I can do in two days. We have an online course that covers the NTN as all as the other exams. It could help but you once again you only have two days
Hello, I have never been in the gym before, I'm in my 30's and got recruited by a police officer, I'm going to take my test next week.
My question is when I pass test, should I then start working out? It would be great to know in my workout what should I focus on, I'm physically fit, but not marathon running fit.
I know quite a few officers that did not get started until their forties. It seem that they were more in tune with themselves as they became officers.
So what your saying if I stolen candy from my grandmother purse at the age of 10 say I did or say no because if was not from a store
Mike,
It comes down to what you think in your head. If you get asked the question of have you ever stole anything and your stomach drops at the thought of answering, you will show a lie on the test if you enter say no. The questionnaire before hand gives you the chance to answer with explanations. So take a look at the hypothetical:
Have you ever stole anything?
Yes or No
Answer: UKN ------- Explanation: I once took candy from my grandmother without permission.
The question however is more likely to be worded as such:
As an adult have you ever stole anything of monetary value over $50?
Hope this helps.
4:11 yeah I could be truthful. But I doubt you will pass you if admit to doing a crime in the pass. If anything, I feel like you will be arrested.
If you admit to murder than probably, but if it's in the past and time has went by. The only thing that matters is not disclosing.
@@armogantraining7164 let’s say I admit that a year ago I drove my car while having a buzz from drinking 🍺 . But I never got caught, and made back home with no problem. It was a one time thing, and I honestly felt bad for doing it.
What would happened there? Would I fail the test? Or would I fail, and get a DUI for confessing?
Damn I put in the polygraph paperwork that I stole my sisters clothes and makeup (other than that, I’ve never stolen). Am I gonna fail?
No but they will dig deeper