@@ontoLovingMyself i used to do the same. since from a young age i’ve been hearing about shootings or just random killings on the news so at like age 10 i made a plan on what i would do if i was in this situations. it’s sad we have to but unfortunately it’s realistic
do you think at the end of the crime videos you could spend like 5 minutes saying your point of view, i would love to hear more of your opinions on the crimes that take place xxx
also, I feel like she’s stating her opinion whilst telling the story, right? she’s making sarcastic comments or underlining the cruelty that’s been committed by using sad adjectives or am I the only one thinking that?
For those saying ‘being locked in prison for the rest of their life is the best punishment’...I mean true. But RARELY do criminals actually stay in prison forever. Many get out way before the were ‘supposed’ to. I am a recent criminology grad so I have a lot of mixed feeling about the death penalty, and I’m neither supporting nor condemning it. Just something I thought I’d throw out there. Lots of things need to be changed with the CJ system.
Life in prison is nothing for the homeless or those who have been in and out of the system their whole life. Look up the Angela Simpson interview. She literally says she should have gotten death but she is happy that she gets to hang with her friends all the time now.
true. I’m in support of the death penalty but i guess if i had to pick, i’d rather a murderer stay in prison for life without parole vs them having the opportunity to have freedom ever again
i feel the death penalty should depend on the individuals. for those self loathing people death is an easy way out, keep them alive. For those selfish p.o.s. who still value their live, kill them outside in the cold.
you should seriously cover the case of kerry patterson! she went missing in 1980 and 6 months later, they found her skull, tibia, femur, and humerus in an oil field. i would really like to gather more information as she went missing and lived near where i live!
No matter a person's crimes and how evil the crimes were, we as humans do not have the right to take another's life.The death penalty is not a punishment, it is simply just killing another person who was created with God's image and likeness, just as we were. If it was me in a murderer's shoes, I would rather die and choose the death penalty than have to sit in prison for the rest of my life enduring the dangers of prison and being haunted by what I did. I am glad he was caught but NOBODY has the right to take the life of another person, despite the crimes. Forgiveness and hope for repentance should always be there and nobody deserves to be killed by another person even if that person killed other people. He was not a danger to society by being locked in prison, therefore that should have been his punishment - life in prison to think about what he did and not take the easy way out which is death.
@@Emily-ii4md I think it’s easy for us to say this who have never gone thru what the victims and the victims families went thru .it’s so easy to speak this .I think about it a lot as well but at the same time if we speak about the Bible it does say follow the law given into us even here on earth .n that’s the law
I was born and still live in the East Side of the Dayton Metropolitan Area, the heart of the city. I'm 32 I was a kid when this happened. People still talk about this especially during the holidays. R.I.P to the victims your city hasn't forgotten!
interestingly the death penalty is actually more expensive than keeping someone in jail in the US at least, between the appeals process you have to have access to as a death row inmate, the special place they're held, the 23 hr a day surveillance and then the execution itself. So while some people might not agree with it on the moral side of things, they can't deny that financially it doesnt make sense. What concerns me the most, though, is how flawed the criminal justice system is in the US. The Innocence Project really opened my eyes to the sheer volume of blatant wrongful convictions that have led to unlawful killings of innocent people. I think it was Jason Flom who said for him, the death penalty wasn't worth it if one innocent life is lost, and we know for a fact that there have been many. I have to agree. Every innocent person executed also means a criminal that's likely still out there, who's guilty of something deemed worthy of the death penalty. I think we need dramatic criminal justice reforms, both to abolish the death penalty *and* put a plan in place that is more cost effective to ensure that these people are actually guilty and if so, never released to the public again. It's crazy to me that you can be killed for a murder you have no substantial link to and yet we let serial child abusers and rapists away with sentences as short as a few years, and then they reoffend (because shocker, they're sick and need treatment or locked up forever if untreatable!).
Even if we were able to prosecute someone knowing with 100% certainty that they are guilty of a heinous crime. I still think that, ethically/morally, logically etc, the state should never be able to take the life of one of their citizens, no matter what the crime is. The state has limited resources, its own specific agendas and biases etc. Just doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
Lethal injection is one of the nicest ways to go. The cocktail of drugs in it is also used by vets for animal euthanasia. I'm sure pretty any natural death would be more painful than that. I'd let them live and die from natural causes in jail.
Marvellis is my cousin on my dads side. I never thought I'd see someone cover this story. My dad (he was a terrible person very abusive and did soo many evil hearted things. So I have a hard time calling him dad.) Is James Burney and my mkm divorced him when i was 1 or 2 maybe. My whole family remembers how evil he was and through James Burney I am directly related to Marvellis. My Mom always made sure to tell us everything we (being my older sister and I as my oldest sister already knew. She was 11 when I was born and 8 when my other sister was born so she knew exactly how evil our 'dad'was. It's a blessing that she has a different dad. All three of is have the same mom but the oldest has a different dad or that was unclear) wanted to know about that side of our family. While my parents are divorced, my immediate family (grandma, mom, two older sisters) and I still live in a small city that is a suburb of Dayton. As eerie as it is my older sister (the one who shares a 'dad' and mom with me) looks like Marvellis to a certaindegree. I am very happy my mom is e extremely strong and despite how hard it was, she got out of that insanely abusive relationship and saved our family. I dont have a father but when I'm reminded of the things he did I'm not even mad.
I’m a Christian so I know I shouldn’t be for the death penalty but I literally go back and forth on it. If my loved one was murdered I’d have this little voice in the back of my head saying he/she can break out of prison if they’re given life without the possibility of parole so I wouldn’t wanna risk a killer escaping because it has happened before, or they could get life in prison with the possibility of parole which would be worse! I know God gives God takes but it’s really hard for me to choose a side because I understand families who want the death penalty.
It’s so gross and humid in Brisbane where we/Bella are! I’m jealous of everyone in the northern hemisphere who have nice cold weather leading up to Christmas. The grass is always greener on the other side I guess lmao
Just found you today and I am hooked girl! I love the way you present these cases and how you call it like it is from your viewpoint. Definitely a huge fan of Bella and her earrings 😍😎
I never thought of that, I only accept it right to the ones wrongly accused. If you have orchestrated or been apart of the death of someone, you need to have a similar sentence to the crime. Wow, that really got me thinking.
I personally think that in lieu of the death penalty, they should be sentenced to solitary confinement in prison for the rest of their lives. Just killing these monsters lets them off easier than having to suffer alone in a cell 24/7 for the rest of their lives. Plus it is a lot cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than sentencing them to death row.
as soon as the video started and I seen your earrings I called my son in the room because he LITERALLY loves tmnt! The shoes he has on now are ninja turtles.
I used to have a serious issue with the death penalty. I was afraid of innocent people being put to death, and I do still worry about that. But honestly, the more true crime stuff I watch, the more I feel some people are just inherently evil, with no value to society, no redeemable qualities. For those people, I feel the death penalty is appropriate.
Even then, those people, I still disagree with the death penalty. I dont believe a life should be put to death through the government. They should live the rest of their days in prison.
And yet, capital punishment isn't really a deterrent. States that have capital punishment tend to have higher murder rates than those that do not. Also, there is far too many cases of wrongful convictions and questionable convictions for me to ever be ok with state sanctioned murder. On top of that, it is far more expensive to have someone on death row than keeping someone imprisoned for life, either way, the prisons and criminal justice system in general needs a complete overhaul. It just doesn't work.
Me personally I don’t believe in the death penalty. I feel like that’s too easy of a death on those who commit such horrible crimes: they should be behind bars for the rest of their lives paying for what they’ve done. I also don’t think we as humans are above any other human to purposely kill another just because it’s an “eye for an eye” I wouldn’t want that job to inject them and kill them that’d be on my conscious forever.
I completely agree. Although my brother was saying that we might as well should get rid of these people since we're maintaining them with our taxes and they're just taking up space... I guess he's got a point, but I still think the death sentence is giving them an easy way out.
I'm not saying I disagree but, how are they "paying" for what they've done? The make friends that they get to hang out with all the time, get three meals a day, don't have to work or pay bills, watch TV and play video games. Yes they lose there "freedom" but the jail systems are so soft now. There are homeless people that commit crimes just so they have a warm place to life and three meals a day. PLUS we tax payers have to pay for all of this and it costs a fortune!
@@alainapickering4646 I agree with your sentiment. I don’t agree with the death penalty but I also don’t agree with our prison system. I personally believe the prison system should only be funded to maintain the buildings, pay officers/jailers, medical supply and food. High risk Prisoners shouldn’t have perks or tv or extra food etc. people that want prison reform to make prison more “humane” for prisoners tend to forget that these people have done horrible things. Murderers/pedophiles should always be kept in confinement and never be let out. Minimal food and water and no exercise for the rest of their lives.
I believe that the victims family should choose whether the criminal is locked up or put on death row. Because some families may want revenge but there are many out there that may not want to. Furthermore, the death penalty system is so incredibly rigged. It disproportionately targets people of colour, economically disadvantaged people, and those with mental illness or disabilities. People unable to afford quality legal representation, and unfamiliar with the justice system are not getting a fair go out of this, compared to a white rich man. I mean just talking about prison time, a black prisoner serving time for sexual assault is three and-a-half times more likely to be innocent than a white sexual assault convict. So imagine how disgustingly messed up it is with the death penalty. And a database of convicted people said to be innocent, includes 150 allegedly wrongfully executed people. I honestly think the death penalty is a risky move and with the system the US has today, life in prison has to be the safest route until the racially biased system is moved out of place and we can FAIRLY execute a criminal with CERTAINTY.
definitely see where you're coming from and I've never been in that kind of situation, but having the family choose feels like a lot of "guilt" and responsibility on people who are already victims
@@Grace-gi1lt That's true. Tbh since writing that idk. I just feel overall the death penalty is risky and really shouldn't be a thing, or at least currently with the disparity and disproportionate effect it has on black people.
When there is ZERO doubt of guilt, I support capital punishment. Especially for mass murder, spree killers, and violent crimes involving children. Many of those kinds of killers cannot be rehabilitated, and for pedophilia, there is NO rehabilitation possible. If there is undisputed evidence, the crime is on record, or there is a genuine confession of guilt, yes, I am 100% in favor of the death penalty for situations as I described above.
I personally think the death penalty should be abolished; if someone kills and killing is bad, why are they then killed? I think a much more appropriate sentence is life without the possibility of parole, as I, for one, couldn’t imagine living out my days in a cell and having to live with what I’ve done.
@Jade xo it is more expensive to carry out a death penalty than life in prison. also people are often kept on death row for a long time before they’re executed, so it is not worth it to free up jails in my opinion.
i didn’t even know this story until my mom told me one of her friends was the sister of denita and it’s so haunting that the my hometown had such a dark history for christmas 😰
I just wanna take a minute out of my day to *thank* *you* for all this dedication you’re putting into this series 💙💚 thanks for all this hard work all for us 🤘🏼
I’ve been speaking up about this more recently since there’s been a lot of discourse surrounding the death penalty. As the victim of a truly heinous crime, and having had two family members die as the result of separate heinous crimes as well, I believe the death penalty should be presented as an option to victims/their families. I have no interest in revenge, but knowing that someone who hurt me severely for a large portion of my childhood is gone and not out there would bring me peace. I think a lot of times victims of these types of crimes are left out of the conversation and people who literally have no stake in the discussion (people who have not been victims of these types of crimes, known people who have been on death row or committed these types of crimes, or people who have worked within the justice field or done extensive research on this stuff) like to share their opinions on it as if their voice should hold weight in the discussion. There is no doubt that our current justice system is hugely corrupt, racist, classist, ableist, etc and that it does very little to actually benefit victims of crime, criminals in need of rehabilitation, or the public. I believe that we essentially need to abolish our entire system and re think how we approach crime. Social safety nets and preventive measures need to be put in place to help prevent minor crime and help those who often get locked away for unfair reasons, victims of crime should be the most major voice and the deciding factor on how the person who hurt them or their family member is “punished”- they were, after all, the ones hurt and therefore the only person who can truly make the call on what justice is to them and what they need to heal. If they want restorative justice, that’s what they should receive. Rehabilitation centers for people who commit crimes and are in the process of taking accountability should exist and should focus on nor only holding the person accountable, but addressing underlying issues and making sure the crime does not happen again and that the victim of the crime feels that this person is truly changing. If a victim wants a life sentence or a death penalty, they should also be able to receive that, in extremely heinous cases. Most minor crime could probably be handled with a restorative justice circle and issues within society that lead to things such as people’s need to rob others being diminished. For truly heinous crimes, the victim should be able to sentence someone to death or to be locked away if it is what brings them peace. This is an immensely difficult topic and one that I’ve spent a lot of time looking into as I haven’t really been able to find answers from people on what to do with extreme cases of crime but I truly think we need a much more victim centered approach to crime with a larger range of options on how to handle those who have hurt others.
I personally think that someone who deliberately kills another person (unless it’s in self defence or defence of someone else who is in immediate danger) deserves to have their life taken too, but there must either be definite evidence or the killer admits to it.
deserve perhaps, but the system is not good enough to be able to fairly carry it out. & it is not appropriate due to the fact that poc are more likely to get a longer sentence or the death penalty, it enables discrimination. also it is incredibly expensive.
Death penalty isn’t nearly as expensive as what we are paying to keep prisoners alive who I can say 100% as someone whose family is involved in the criminal justice field are not suffering in today’s time.
I'm on my boyfriends youtube watching her 😂😂 but anyway, I just have to say Bella is the MOST dedicated youtube true crime storyteller. She works so hard and all of her stories are so thoroughly researched. You have such a talent for storytelling Bella! Much love, xo
when you tell these stories I actually imagine shooting these criminals whilst they're in the act and just how much satisfaction I would feel to save these poor victims lives, as bad as it sounds. These sick sick people. It makes me ill
@@pafke well I don’t think so, if I kill someone whose in the process of killing other people then I’m saving lives not taking them but uno all hypothetical 😂
i totally get that, maybe criminal wasn't the right word to use. when i read about the satisfaction you would get, it just gave me an icky feeling that's all. personal preference i suppose :)
Back when this happened, I lived next door to the house they hung out at. I was young then, but I remember neighbors saying they found a notebook in the house where they kept a diary of what they did and it said they cut off the genitals of a man.
Very well done, as usual, Bella! What a story. Such heartless young people. I am glad that they are behind bars. The death penalty is not a deterrent to crime. That is preposterous. I can't come to grips with this punishment because I have never lost a loved one to crime. Thank you!
your absolutely stunning!!!!! EDIT** when you talked about there second victim my heart when out to her they had no reason to target her other then they wanted some fun aww the poor girl may she Rest In Peace EDITT 2** omg imagine being shot in the mouth and then the head watching these just further makes me terrified of the people you pass by on the street or in the grocery store like you never know what someone’s intentions are it’s horrific. EDIT 3** I believe the death penalty should be abolished I see no in point in how if someone kills someone we’re suppose to kill them to show them that killing people is bad. Like it doesn’t make sense
I understand you view of the death penalty but like .. an eye for an eye . A life for a life .. that’s kinda how I view it... idk if that’s heartless but I really can’t decide how I feel about the death penalty!!!
@@savannahj9578 it is really tricky I feel like especially with people who go on like killing sprees and are really vicious people when there incredibly evil a part of me is like they deserve to die yes but another part of me is like but then they won’t have to suffer if you know what I mean like for example I feel in some cases it would be much better for that evil heartless person to rot in a jail cell or whatever and have to think about there actions everyday but on the other hand I feel like you have to consider what they did and if they for example heartlessly murdered people or even one person then I think they deserve something much greater. so I agree with you it’s super hard to completely side with one side or another.
@@rilleygriffin hi thank you for feeling the need to point that out, I really hope that comment brought you peace and happiness. Happy holidays and god bless!
It always struck me as odd, of course there's loads of people on death row who's guilt is in question or are outright innocent, but for the known rapists and murderers? I was about to say the cold molesters too but paradoxically we don't see serial child molesters on death row, but often people who are circumstantially linked to a killing. 🙄🙄🙄
To me I always think of it like “well he didn’t let his victims have a last meal before he killed them so why are we going to give him a nice meal before he dies”
@@nuclearseasons interestingly the death penalty is actually more expensive than keeping someone in jail in the US at least, between the appeals process you have to have access to as a death row inmate, the special place they're held, the 23 hr a day surveillance and then the execution itself. So while some people might not agree with you on the moral side of things, they can't deny that financially it doesnt make sense.
This case is absolutely craaaaaazy, I’m honestly convinced that they were insane or something. The poor innocent people that were killed for nothing 💔💔
I live in Dayton, Ohio!! I was born and raised here and I have NEVER heard of this!!! 😲 However, the tree lighting and everything is beautiful but unfortunately the Dayton Arcade closed in 1990, I guess it had pop up shops during the holidays but not anymore 😕 Dayton got really run down and so much closed for good. But thankfully the city and community is trying to clean it up. 😊 Anyways, thanks for doing this story, I’m still so shocked I have never heard it before tonight!!
@@kindofcomplex9304 ermm aly isnt in the wrong she is saying it hurts the most just cus a girl with a 2 yr old died so what doesnt mean her life means more so idk why ur now commenting on this
Hi Bella! I'm new to your channel and I think I've binge-watched all the videos in your SOLVED playlist and I'm working on the unsolved ones now. You're a gem for insomnia lol. I was wondering if the solved "playlist" is updated. I find the solved ones less anxiety-inducing to watch. Best, M
Wow! I’m from the Dayton Area. Grew up on the outskirts of Dayton and I worked in Dayton. I was 13 when this happened so I don’t remember it. Heartbreaking! Very heartbreaking!
Killing isn't necessarily bad. People have had to kill to defend themselves (War). We kill to eat. Some people are killed so they don't have to suffer anymore. Killing INNOCENT people is bad.
ok so if it was YOUR brother or sister or aunt or uncle or mom or dad that he shot & killed for a jacket or some other petty shit, you wouldn’t want him dead? cus i know you would. that is pure evil in human form, it deserves to be rid of. if they had some remorse, okay, then the death penalty isn’t necessary but these mfs didn’t even blink,
Killing people for fun, a few bucks, pennies, nickels and dimes. This is so sad 😞 rip to all the victims.
it’s so sad. like i just can’t wrap my mind around it
The 71 years old man was smart, playing dead. Sad that he had to be in such a situation at his age though.
With age comes wisdom👊🏻💋🙏🏼
Its sad that anyone had to be in this situation no matter their age.
I when child thought why ppl didn't play dead or am I a weirdo to think like this but this idea is kinda a hope
@@ontoLovingMyself i used to do the same. since from a young age i’ve been hearing about shootings or just random killings on the news so at like age 10 i made a plan on what i would do if i was in this situations. it’s sad we have to but unfortunately it’s realistic
@@hazelxtaliahazelxtalia9975 he already close to death bro standing on that edge has to feel crazy when u kno u could rly have been dead
The way Bella roasts these criminals with no fear 😂 Id be afraid they’d come find me
SAME 😭😂
Hahaha same
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Most of these lowlife criminals can’t afford a car let alone a plane ticket to Australia to find her 🤣🤣🤣😂😂
@@brookarellastyle260 true. I’ve also never met anyone else with a name like mine so hey 😂
Senseless violence is so eerie. You never know when somebody might randomly involve you in their bullshit😕
I was thinking the same thing looking into the eyes of the guy that got the death penalty... I see many of him everyday..
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@@kitty88903 What a sweet comment🥺
i love how in the intros shes ☺️☺️ then the case starts and shes 😐😐
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Well yeah duh 😐
She’s the cutest
She does it for respect of the victims
@@omi_shad oh no i obviously know that i’m not stupid i just mean how fast the mood changes
Sometimes the holidays bring out the worst in people unfortunately...
Yea 😔
Mhm
Tell me about it. I work at Target and this week just seems like all the thieves were like "yes, the time is now" hahaha it's like everyday
And makes other so desperate
I hate Xmas and this time of year :(
do you think at the end of the crime videos you could spend like 5 minutes saying your point of view, i would love to hear more of your opinions on the crimes that take place xxx
Me too! I wish every true crime youtuber would do this!
@@melanieresutek1403 i think they’re worried they might offend people who don’t have the same point of view... which is totally understandable xx
@@aseofhearts very true thankyou xx
also, I feel like she’s stating her opinion whilst telling the story, right? she’s making sarcastic comments or underlining the cruelty that’s been committed by using sad adjectives
or am I the only one thinking that?
@@alexandraflorea3268 Yes thats very true aswell
It honestly scares me that such cruel people exist in this world
“Downtown Posse” 😂😂😭😭😭 they took an L with that name 😂😂😂
Imagine being that cringe 😂 you can't think you're so hard and cool with that name SURELY
@@RealElongatedMuskrat I’m LITERALLY cracking up lol
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The one about the young mother in the phone booth hurt me. Killed that poor woman for some pocket change...
Ugh, Danita looks so sweet and beautiful in the photo in the thumbnail, it makes me so sad that she died in such a violent ruthless manner
For those saying ‘being locked in prison for the rest of their life is the best punishment’...I mean true. But RARELY do criminals actually stay in prison forever. Many get out way before the were ‘supposed’ to. I am a recent criminology grad so I have a lot of mixed feeling about the death penalty, and I’m neither supporting nor condemning it. Just something I thought I’d throw out there. Lots of things need to be changed with the CJ system.
Life in prison is nothing for the homeless or those who have been in and out of the system their whole life. Look up the Angela Simpson interview. She literally says she should have gotten death but she is happy that she gets to hang with her friends all the time now.
And it costs money to keep them in jail and fed
Let's not forget how criminals become the "boss" in prison and they continue bullying other prisoners. Prison is sometimes a second home for criminals
true. I’m in support of the death penalty but i guess if i had to pick, i’d rather a murderer stay in prison for life without parole vs them having the opportunity to have freedom ever again
i feel the death penalty should depend on the individuals. for those self loathing people death is an easy way out, keep them alive. For those selfish p.o.s. who still value their live, kill them outside in the cold.
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SHE never fails to amaze, like in general
@@jayjayblaze Simp
She always has the coolest earrings and t-shirts and always looks so beautiful!!
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They kill innocent souls for no reason yet would do anything not to get the death penalty
How can they value their own lives so much but kill so many people as if it’s nothing? Blows my mind!
They’re cowards, that’s why.
you should seriously cover the case of kerry patterson! she went missing in 1980 and 6 months later, they found her skull, tibia, femur, and humerus in an oil field. i would really like to gather more information as she went missing and lived near where i live!
YES OMG! I heard about this case and it is so interesting .
I live in Cincinnati. So creepy!
They are disgusting! The second girl broke my heart🥺
Does he not look like The Weeknd to anyone else? 😭😂
That was my first thought.
I literally thought the same thing 😭😭
Yes I thought that too !!
Dam you right. I see that
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watching these mistery mondays makes me appreciate the life I’m living
You’re so pretty and stunning! Literally queen. I can’t-
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@Elina Ossia I have
Seriously! And the beautiful accent....my Philly accent from the US sucks, I'm jealous
7:30 she looks like such a sweetheart. Ugh poor girl and her poor family. How awful. She deserved better.
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That’s messed up that he’s the only one who got the death penalty. When it was all of them not just him
Right like Laura Taylor’s was one with the “bright “ idea of killing people why didn’t she get the death penalty!!! So pissed
@@wendybeltran6723 wasn’t she a minor?
No matter a person's crimes and how evil the crimes were, we as humans do not have the right to take another's life.The death penalty is not a punishment, it is simply just killing another person who was created with God's image and likeness, just as we were. If it was me in a murderer's shoes, I would rather die and choose the death penalty than have to sit in prison for the rest of my life enduring the dangers of prison and being haunted by what I did. I am glad he was caught but NOBODY has the right to take the life of another person, despite the crimes. Forgiveness and hope for repentance should always be there and nobody deserves to be killed by another person even if that person killed other people. He was not a danger to society by being locked in prison, therefore that should have been his punishment - life in prison to think about what he did and not take the easy way out which is death.
@@fiona9100 oh yea
@@Emily-ii4md I think it’s easy for us to say this who have never gone thru what the victims and the victims families went thru .it’s so easy to speak this .I think about it a lot as well but at the same time if we speak about the Bible it does say follow the law given into us even here on earth .n that’s the law
I was born and still live in the East Side of the Dayton Metropolitan Area, the heart of the city. I'm 32 I was a kid when this happened. People still talk about this especially during the holidays. R.I.P to the victims your city hasn't forgotten!
interestingly the death penalty is actually more expensive than keeping someone in jail in the US at least, between the appeals process you have to have access to as a death row inmate, the special place they're held, the 23 hr a day surveillance and then the execution itself. So while some people might not agree with it on the moral side of things, they can't deny that financially it doesnt make sense. What concerns me the most, though, is how flawed the criminal justice system is in the US. The Innocence Project really opened my eyes to the sheer volume of blatant wrongful convictions that have led to unlawful killings of innocent people. I think it was Jason Flom who said for him, the death penalty wasn't worth it if one innocent life is lost, and we know for a fact that there have been many. I have to agree. Every innocent person executed also means a criminal that's likely still out there, who's guilty of something deemed worthy of the death penalty. I think we need dramatic criminal justice reforms, both to abolish the death penalty *and* put a plan in place that is more cost effective to ensure that these people are actually guilty and if so, never released to the public again. It's crazy to me that you can be killed for a murder you have no substantial link to and yet we let serial child abusers and rapists away with sentences as short as a few years, and then they reoffend (because shocker, they're sick and need treatment or locked up forever if untreatable!).
Even if we were able to prosecute someone knowing with 100% certainty that they are guilty of a heinous crime.
I still think that, ethically/morally, logically etc, the state should never be able to take the life of one of their citizens, no matter what the crime is.
The state has limited resources, its own specific agendas and biases etc. Just doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
Lethal injection is one of the nicest ways to go. The cocktail of drugs in it is also used by vets for animal euthanasia. I'm sure pretty any natural death would be more painful than that. I'd let them live and die from natural causes in jail.
Marvellis is my cousin on my dads side.
I never thought I'd see someone cover this story. My dad (he was a terrible person very abusive and did soo many evil hearted things. So I have a hard time calling him dad.) Is James Burney and my mkm divorced him when i was 1 or 2 maybe. My whole family remembers how evil he was and through James Burney I am directly related to Marvellis. My Mom always made sure to tell us everything we (being my older sister and I as my oldest sister already knew. She was 11 when I was born and 8 when my other sister was born so she knew exactly how evil our 'dad'was. It's a blessing that she has a different dad. All three of is have the same mom but the oldest has a different dad or that was unclear) wanted to know about that side of our family. While my parents are divorced, my immediate family (grandma, mom, two older sisters) and I still live in a small city that is a suburb of Dayton. As eerie as it is my older sister (the one who shares a 'dad' and mom with me) looks like Marvellis to a certaindegree. I am very happy my mom is e extremely strong and despite how hard it was, she got out of that insanely abusive relationship and saved our family. I dont have a father but when I'm reminded of the things he did I'm not even mad.
I’m a Christian so I know I shouldn’t be for the death penalty but I literally go back and forth on it. If my loved one was murdered I’d have this little voice in the back of my head saying he/she can break out of prison if they’re given life without the possibility of parole so I wouldn’t wanna risk a killer escaping because it has happened before, or they could get life in prison with the possibility of parole which would be worse! I know God gives God takes but it’s really hard for me to choose a side because I understand families who want the death penalty.
I’m a Christian and support the death penalty, if you intentionally murder someone you deserve death as well
I randomly remembered it’s summer for you rn and I’m so jealous
no ✋🏽 the weather is so bad down here it’s been raining everyday 😞
Dont be jealous , its way too hot here in Queensland Australia 😅
@@francotavianatos3907 legit, this shitty weather has to fix itself bc its barely summer anymore
It’s so gross and humid in Brisbane where we/Bella are! I’m jealous of everyone in the northern hemisphere who have nice cold weather leading up to Christmas. The grass is always greener on the other side I guess lmao
@@laurenrawding2012 yes its so gross ! And how random was that intense storm a couple hours ago ? 🤣
I can’t believe people can be that heartless 😕!
Your 12 days of Christmas is my favorite part of this season ✨
Just found you today and I am hooked girl! I love the way you present these cases and how you call it like it is from your viewpoint. Definitely a huge fan of Bella and her earrings 😍😎
seeing your uploads make my whole day!
I don’t agree with letting death row inmates have their choice of their last meal because their victims didn’t get the same right.
Yep give them bread & water
they should get nothing
I never thought of that, I only accept it right to the ones wrongly accused. If you have orchestrated or been apart of the death of someone, you need to have a similar sentence to the crime. Wow, that really got me thinking.
Bstard should have been given nothing to eat!
Absolutely love this 12 days of Christmas!!! You’ve done so much work love you so much Bella you angel xx
Bella you've done it again this is the most I've been on TH-cam in a while
I personally think that in lieu of the death penalty, they should be sentenced to solitary confinement in prison for the rest of their lives. Just killing these monsters lets them off easier than having to suffer alone in a cell 24/7 for the rest of their lives. Plus it is a lot cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than sentencing them to death row.
Yes.. No human contact what so ever and then these monsters can go crazy... they deserve much worse than prison or death sentences 😒
Facts make em kill himself
as soon as the video started and I seen your earrings I called my son in the room because he LITERALLY loves tmnt! The shoes he has on now are ninja turtles.
Same
My 14 Riley who has an intellectual disability loves anything TMNT haha
These people are truly evil
The thumbnail i thought that was THE WEEKEND 🤣😭
Stop me too 😭 hahaha
omg same
The Weeknd ** lol pls dont insult my abel twice in one comment
Same lol😂😂😂😭😭😭
it looks just like him tbh
I used to have a serious issue with the death penalty. I was afraid of innocent people being put to death, and I do still worry about that. But honestly, the more true crime stuff I watch, the more I feel some people are just inherently evil, with no value to society, no redeemable qualities. For those people, I feel the death penalty is appropriate.
agreed.
Even then, those people, I still disagree with the death penalty. I dont believe a life should be put to death through the government. They should live the rest of their days in prison.
And yet, capital punishment isn't really a deterrent. States that have capital punishment tend to have higher murder rates than those that do not. Also, there is far too many cases of wrongful convictions and questionable convictions for me to ever be ok with state sanctioned murder. On top of that, it is far more expensive to have someone on death row than keeping someone imprisoned for life, either way, the prisons and criminal justice system in general needs a complete overhaul. It just doesn't work.
So comply or die that’s something a sociopath would say 😑hmmmmmm
@@ThePresentTimeNow I agree. I feel like the death penalty is an easy way out for these evil people.
Me personally I don’t believe in the death penalty. I feel like that’s too easy of a death on those who commit such horrible crimes: they should be behind bars for the rest of their lives paying for what they’ve done. I also don’t think we as humans are above any other human to purposely kill another just because it’s an “eye for an eye” I wouldn’t want that job to inject them and kill them that’d be on my conscious forever.
I completely agree
Hear hear! Well said. But what criminals like Ted Bundy who kept escaping and are a danger to society?
I completely agree.
Although my brother was saying that we might as well should get rid of these people since we're maintaining them with our taxes and they're just taking up space... I guess he's got a point, but I still think the death sentence is giving them an easy way out.
I'm not saying I disagree but, how are they "paying" for what they've done? The make friends that they get to hang out with all the time, get three meals a day, don't have to work or pay bills, watch TV and play video games. Yes they lose there "freedom" but the jail systems are so soft now. There are homeless people that commit crimes just so they have a warm place to life and three meals a day. PLUS we tax payers have to pay for all of this and it costs a fortune!
@@alainapickering4646 I agree with your sentiment. I don’t agree with the death penalty but I also don’t agree with our prison system. I personally believe the prison system should only be funded to maintain the buildings, pay officers/jailers, medical supply and food. High risk Prisoners shouldn’t have perks or tv or extra food etc. people that want prison reform to make prison more “humane” for prisoners tend to forget that these people have done horrible things. Murderers/pedophiles should always be kept in confinement and never be let out. Minimal food and water and no exercise for the rest of their lives.
Your earrings always make me smile but THESE. These... *chefs kiss*
I love your TMNT earrings. So cute!
Bella :he was 19
Thats a 32 year old man Bella dont play with us, what!!!
19!!!
The fact that I live in Dayton, and you’re covering a case from where I live.
Same
Love the TMNT earings and your way of telling these stories!
"Downtown Posse" sounds like the most 1992 name in existence... so in my brain I get it.
Rest In Peace all the poor victims 🤍🤍
I appreciate all the hard work you’ve been putting in this week. Thanks
very much ❤️❤️❤️
I believe that the victims family should choose whether the criminal is locked up or put on death row. Because some families may want revenge but there are many out there that may not want to. Furthermore, the death penalty system is so incredibly rigged. It disproportionately targets people of colour, economically disadvantaged people, and those with mental illness or disabilities. People unable to afford quality legal representation, and unfamiliar with the justice system are not getting a fair go out of this, compared to a white rich man. I mean just talking about prison time, a black prisoner serving time for sexual assault is three and-a-half times more likely to be innocent than a white sexual assault convict. So imagine how disgustingly messed up it is with the death penalty. And a database of convicted people said to be innocent, includes 150 allegedly wrongfully executed people.
I honestly think the death penalty is a risky move and with the system the US has today, life in prison has to be the safest route until the racially biased system is moved out of place and we can FAIRLY execute a criminal with CERTAINTY.
definitely see where you're coming from and I've never been in that kind of situation, but having the family choose feels like a lot of "guilt" and responsibility on people who are already victims
@@Grace-gi1lt That's true. Tbh since writing that idk. I just feel overall the death penalty is risky and really shouldn't be a thing, or at least currently with the disparity and disproportionate effect it has on black people.
bella is feeding us well with all of the content lately yassss
I love all the interjections you’ve added. I like literally feel like I’m talking to you. Only getting better!
When there is ZERO doubt of guilt, I support capital punishment. Especially for mass murder, spree killers, and violent crimes involving children. Many of those kinds of killers cannot be rehabilitated, and for pedophilia, there is NO rehabilitation possible. If there is undisputed evidence, the crime is on record, or there is a genuine confession of guilt, yes, I am 100% in favor of the death penalty for situations as I described above.
i agree 100%!!!
Agreed!! Some may see it as "harsh" but I think that taking and ruining thousands of lives is harsher 🤷♀️
This is such a sad case (cases) I was not expecting such a horrific story 😭. Prayers for all the victims families as the holidays approach closer.
we stan the raphael earrings
I personally think the death penalty should be abolished; if someone kills and killing is bad, why are they then killed? I think a much more appropriate sentence is life without the possibility of parole, as I, for one, couldn’t imagine living out my days in a cell and having to live with what I’ve done.
I personally think it should be enforced more.
@Jade xo it is more expensive to carry out a death penalty than life in prison. also people are often kept on death row for a long time before they’re executed, so it is not worth it to free up jails in my opinion.
i didn’t even know this story until my mom told me one of her friends was the sister of denita and it’s so haunting that the my hometown had such a dark history for christmas 😰
Going to watch when I exercise today! I had finished the one from yesterday a couple hours ago. So sad so many crimes happen around Christmas
I just wanna take a minute out of my day to *thank* *you* for all this dedication you’re putting into this series 💙💚 thanks for all this hard work all for us 🤘🏼
I love your Mystery videos and the way you speak on the case and I would love it if you did the Menendez Brothers case
Smh this made me so mad like wtf. Rip to the victims they honestly didn’t deserve this 💔💔.
Rest in power to the innocent beautiful lives lost 🥺🌸thank you Bella for covering this case
the perfect notification doesn’t exis-
I love ur work and the effort u put in your research for your cases
Rest In Peace the poor souls who fell victim to these disgusting monsters I feel so bad :(
The earring collection deserves to be in a museum I can’t 😆
I used to watch your crime videos all the time and I'm so glad I am back! Love these videos and the amount of effort/info you put into them!
I’ve been speaking up about this more recently since there’s been a lot of discourse surrounding the death penalty. As the victim of a truly heinous crime, and having had two family members die as the result of separate heinous crimes as well, I believe the death penalty should be presented as an option to victims/their families. I have no interest in revenge, but knowing that someone who hurt me severely for a large portion of my childhood is gone and not out there would bring me peace. I think a lot of times victims of these types of crimes are left out of the conversation and people who literally have no stake in the discussion (people who have not been victims of these types of crimes, known people who have been on death row or committed these types of crimes, or people who have worked within the justice field or done extensive research on this stuff) like to share their opinions on it as if their voice should hold weight in the discussion. There is no doubt that our current justice system is hugely corrupt, racist, classist, ableist, etc and that it does very little to actually benefit victims of crime, criminals in need of rehabilitation, or the public. I believe that we essentially need to abolish our entire system and re think how we approach crime. Social safety nets and preventive measures need to be put in place to help prevent minor crime and help those who often get locked away for unfair reasons, victims of crime should be the most major voice and the deciding factor on how the person who hurt them or their family member is “punished”- they were, after all, the ones hurt and therefore the only person who can truly make the call on what justice is to them and what they need to heal. If they want restorative justice, that’s what they should receive. Rehabilitation centers for people who commit crimes and are in the process of taking accountability should exist and should focus on nor only holding the person accountable, but addressing underlying issues and making sure the crime does not happen again and that the victim of the crime feels that this person is truly changing. If a victim wants a life sentence or a death penalty, they should also be able to receive that, in extremely heinous cases. Most minor crime could probably be handled with a restorative justice circle and issues within society that lead to things such as people’s need to rob others being diminished. For truly heinous crimes, the victim should be able to sentence someone to death or to be locked away if it is what brings them peace. This is an immensely difficult topic and one that I’ve spent a lot of time looking into as I haven’t really been able to find answers from people on what to do with extreme cases of crime but I truly think we need a much more victim centered approach to crime with a larger range of options on how to handle those who have hurt others.
You should cover the case of Meg Newton. This case is so sad and needs so much more coverage.
I personally think that someone who deliberately kills another person (unless it’s in self defence or defence of someone else who is in immediate danger) deserves to have their life taken too, but there must either be definite evidence or the killer admits to it.
this!!!!
deserve perhaps, but the system is not good enough to be able to fairly carry it out. & it is not appropriate due to the fact that poc are more likely to get a longer sentence or the death penalty, it enables discrimination. also it is incredibly expensive.
Death penalty isn’t nearly as expensive as what we are paying to keep prisoners alive who I can say 100% as someone whose family is involved in the criminal justice field are not suffering in today’s time.
Wow you have really just been brightening up my whole week. Hope YOU Are having an incredible day!
I'm on my boyfriends youtube watching her 😂😂 but anyway, I just have to say Bella is the MOST dedicated youtube true crime storyteller. She works so hard and all of her stories are so thoroughly researched. You have such a talent for storytelling Bella! Much love, xo
i love these please don’t stop making them
when you tell these stories I actually imagine shooting these criminals whilst they're in the act and just how much satisfaction I would feel to save these poor victims lives, as bad as it sounds. These sick sick people. It makes me ill
wouldn't that make you a criminal too? (not trying to be rude, just curious about your reasoning)
@@pafke well I don’t think so, if I kill someone whose in the process of killing other people then I’m saving lives not taking them but uno all hypothetical 😂
@@pafke apparently it constitutes as ‘justifiable homicide’
i totally get that, maybe criminal wasn't the right word to use. when i read about the satisfaction you would get, it just gave me an icky feeling that's all. personal preference i suppose :)
@@pafke Yh it’s just something u imagine and don’t actually do lol x
Enjoyment is an understatement ! Absolutely loving this years 12 days of Christmas !! ❤️❤️
Back when this happened, I lived next door to the house they hung out at. I was young then, but I remember neighbors saying they found a notebook in the house where they kept a diary of what they did and it said they cut off the genitals of a man.
Very well done, as usual, Bella! What
a story. Such heartless young people.
I am glad that they are behind bars. The death penalty is not a deterrent to crime. That is preposterous.
I can't come to grips with this punishment because I have never lost a loved one to crime. Thank you!
the name downtown posse gives me such wet/sticky bandit vibes from home alone 😂
I haven't even started watching the video yet but I just got to say that you look so good! Like the make up and everything, wow!
your absolutely stunning!!!!!
EDIT** when you talked about there second victim my heart when out to her they had no reason to target her other then they wanted some fun aww the poor girl may she Rest In Peace
EDITT 2** omg imagine being shot in the mouth and then the head watching these just further makes me terrified of the people you pass by on the street or in the grocery store like you never know what someone’s intentions are it’s horrific.
EDIT 3** I believe the death penalty should be abolished I see no in point in how if someone kills someone we’re suppose to kill them to show them that killing people is bad. Like it doesn’t make sense
all those edits and couldn’t put the correct you’re at the start ?
I understand you view of the death penalty but like .. an eye for an eye . A life for a life .. that’s kinda how I view it... idk if that’s heartless but I really can’t decide how I feel about the death penalty!!!
@@savannahj9578 it is really tricky I feel like especially with people who go on like killing sprees and are really vicious people when there incredibly evil a part of me is like they deserve to die yes but another part of me is like but then they won’t have to suffer if you know what I mean like for example I feel in some cases it would be much better for that evil heartless person to rot in a jail cell or whatever and have to think about there actions everyday but on the other hand I feel like you have to consider what they did and if they for example heartlessly murdered people or even one person then I think they deserve something much greater. so I agree with you it’s super hard to completely side with one side or another.
death penalties keep “danger’s from society” out. eye for eye.
@@rilleygriffin hi thank you for feeling the need to point that out, I really hope that comment brought you peace and happiness. Happy holidays and god bless!
No matter who’s story time I listen to nothing gives me the same satisfaction as Bellas versions
Me personally I don't think anyone that is on death row deserves a last meal does anyone else feel that way???
Yes especially fancy food or food that they like
It always struck me as odd, of course there's loads of people on death row who's guilt is in question or are outright innocent, but for the known rapists and murderers? I was about to say the cold molesters too but paradoxically we don't see serial child molesters on death row, but often people who are circumstantially linked to a killing. 🙄🙄🙄
To me I always think of it like “well he didn’t let his victims have a last meal before he killed them so why are we going to give him a nice meal before he dies”
i dont think anyone should be on death row to begin with
@@nuclearseasons interestingly the death penalty is actually more expensive than keeping someone in jail in the US at least, between the appeals process you have to have access to as a death row inmate, the special place they're held, the 23 hr a day surveillance and then the execution itself. So while some people might not agree with you on the moral side of things, they can't deny that financially it doesnt make sense.
This case is absolutely craaaaaazy, I’m honestly convinced that they were insane or something. The poor innocent people that were killed for nothing 💔💔
Side note: her earrings are giving me life
I live in Dayton, Ohio!! I was born and raised here and I have NEVER heard of this!!! 😲 However, the tree lighting and everything is beautiful but unfortunately the Dayton Arcade closed in 1990, I guess it had pop up shops during the holidays but not anymore 😕 Dayton got really run down and so much closed for good. But thankfully the city and community is trying to clean it up. 😊
Anyways, thanks for doing this story, I’m still so shocked I have never heard it before tonight!!
i like how they’re like omfg who snitched when the whole time they were so obvious 😭
Oh my gosh, I love the different earrings that you wear.
the worst one is the girl in the photobooth poor girl she can't take care of her baby now!!!! how dare they take that away from them
saying one persons death is worse than another is kind of a yikes
@@alyhodg i m not aaying that im saying it hurt the most because she was a mother
@@ajachappell1963 so was the woman at the store.
@@alyhodg i swear some people start arguments for the sake of it
@@kindofcomplex9304 ermm aly isnt in the wrong she is saying it hurts the most just cus a girl with a 2 yr old died so what doesnt mean her life means more so idk why ur now commenting on this
Hi Bella! I'm new to your channel and I think I've binge-watched all the videos in your SOLVED playlist and I'm working on the unsolved ones now. You're a gem for insomnia lol. I was wondering if the solved "playlist" is updated. I find the solved ones less anxiety-inducing to watch. Best, M
Is nobody gonna talk about those earrings? 😂👏
ik right
That nose contour ! 👌
All I can focus on is her nose its so perfect AHAHHAHA
Wow! I’m from the Dayton Area. Grew up on the outskirts of Dayton and I worked in Dayton. I was 13 when this happened so I don’t remember it. Heartbreaking! Very heartbreaking!
This sounds so like a Criminal Minds episode! I wonder if this was the inspiration
You look stunning!! I love how tan you look as well 🤎
Your nose looks extra snatched in this video lol
Jeez, some people cant deal with boredom, most of us just go to sleep when we are bored.
I have never been this early. I love these videos!
Those earrings are on point.
i don't believe in the death penalty, something just doesn't feel right about saying killing people is bad and then killing people 😅😅
Killing isn't necessarily bad. People have had to kill to defend themselves (War). We kill to eat. Some people are killed so they don't have to suffer anymore.
Killing INNOCENT people is bad.
If you kill someone, you should be killed. Clearly they don’t have any value for human life, so they shouldn’t be alive.
ok so if it was YOUR brother or sister or aunt or uncle or mom or dad that he shot & killed for a jacket or some other petty shit, you wouldn’t want him dead? cus i know you would. that is pure evil in human form, it deserves to be rid of. if they had some remorse, okay, then the death penalty isn’t necessary but these mfs didn’t even blink,
Wiping out monsters who murder innocent ppl.
What a perfect timing as I’m watching your old videos 😄👍🏻💕
Why does Marvalis low-key look like The Weekend in the first pic!!